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Speaker 1: Get Up, Get Up, Get Up?

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Speaker 2: What is up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 2: of the Mets Up Podcast, Episode one sixteen. A nice

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Speaker 2: and easy and relaxing episode for you guys, because the

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Speaker 2: Mets took care business. They face those Cincinnati Reds and

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Speaker 2: they really just they smacked him around all week. It

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Speaker 2: was not a very competitive series, but that being said,

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Speaker 2: we got to celebrate the easy one sometimes. So we're

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Speaker 2: still gonna talk about everything that went on during this

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Speaker 2: series as well as we have a special guest in

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Speaker 2: the second half of this episode, Matt Eddie from Baseball America.

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Speaker 2: Gonna go through the Mets farm system. They just dropped

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Speaker 2: their top thirty prospect rankings for their you know, their

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Speaker 2: website over there, their publication, and we're gonna go ahead

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Speaker 2: and talk with him about the Mets prospects, some of

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Speaker 2: the guys that you could see in the future for

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Speaker 2: this team. So stick around for that really awesome interview

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Speaker 2: we had him on last year. Can't wait for you

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Speaker 2: guys to hear that again this time. If you are

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Speaker 2: available over on the New York Mets YouTube channel. So

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Speaker 2: now we go ahead and bring in James. James, how

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Speaker 2: you doing, man.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Probably one of the chillest Mets series

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Speaker 3: of the entire year, at least since we've started doing

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Speaker 3: this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, like since, like you said, since we've started doing this,

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Speaker 2: I can't remember an easier, more straightforward series like literally

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Speaker 2: start to finish, the Mets had control of this entire series,

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Speaker 2: didn't relinquish it, relinquish it once, and it was just

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Speaker 2: it was really really easy.

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Speaker 3: The Mets literally didn't relinquish it. The Mets did not

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Speaker 3: trail for one second in this series.

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Speaker 2: They haven't trailed in how long? Now it feels like

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Speaker 2: they haven't trailed in like a week.

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Speaker 3: Six games, fifty to fifty four innings the Mets had

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Speaker 3: not trailed.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty close. I was pretty close to a week.

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Speaker 3: There doesn't make any sense like this, like the not

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Speaker 3: that doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make sense. It's

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Speaker 3: a great team, but this is like the most dominant

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Speaker 3: stretch of Mets baseball I can remember at any point

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Speaker 3: literally in my entire life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think back to like that twenty

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Speaker 2: end and then they eventually ended with the clinching in

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati of the National League Geese. But the Mets are

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Speaker 2: just clicking on all cylinders right now. And while the

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Speaker 2: Reds are not even close to the same competition as

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Speaker 2: the Braves or even the Phillies that we have to

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Speaker 2: face coming up, it is good that the Mets saw

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Speaker 2: a team that is like they're like a wounded deer.

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Speaker 2: And we've mentioned this before, but they pounced, they pounced,

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Speaker 2: they attacked, and the Reds really had no shot ever.

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Speaker 3: Its back to back episodes, we compared something to a

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Speaker 3: wounded deer. But in this series, just to take like

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Speaker 3: number fifty percent. It's a really good number that a

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Speaker 3: lot of people think about a lot of all the

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Speaker 3: times Mets had twenty four turns at bat in this series,

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Speaker 3: which is hilarious their home team, they only hit twenty

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Speaker 3: one run in twelve of those twenty four innings. So

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Speaker 3: fifty percent of the times the Mets came to bat

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Speaker 3: in this series, the Mets scored the run. Also, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna stick with this fifty percent team. The Mets as

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Speaker 3: a team had a five to forty to two on

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Speaker 2: I mean, I saw a stat at one point during

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Speaker 2: Game three today about Daniel Vogel back that he has

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Speaker 2: Like he has been so good. We've said it now

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Speaker 2: for multiple episodes now, but what are they like fifteen

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe just the two losses. The Mets also

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Speaker 3: just totally outscored the Reds twenty one to five in

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Speaker 3: that five to forty to two on base percentage thing

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Speaker 3: not true. Not ture. John's getting me an updated stat

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Speaker 3: right now. It was misrepresented before in the outline. Five

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Speaker 3: forty to two on base percentage to start innings, the

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: I'll still take that one right to the bank. More

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Speaker 2: That's pretty sick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like you said, they outscored them twenty one

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Speaker 2: to five. They were just simply better, especially offensively. And

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Speaker 2: Hunter Green, not very good.

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Speaker 3: I would say, no, definitely not. I feel like the

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Speaker 3: Reds kind of do this every single year, at least

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Speaker 3: I don't know how they managed to re keep setting

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Speaker 3: and resetting the record every single year and throwing out

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Speaker 3: guys like Justin Dunn, the famous big time prospect, former

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Speaker 3: that we never talked about. Who's the guy today, TJ?

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Speaker 3: How you brit his name? Zuke?

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Speaker 2: TJ Zoike who was with I believe the Blue Jays previously.

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Speaker 2: He's a big dude who throws like a big sinker,

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Speaker 2: very good start for TJ. Zeke on the mound. Also,

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Speaker 2: fun name Zoike. You don't get that.

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Speaker 3: Often, Yeah, Zuke? And John is now writing in the

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Speaker 3: Outland that Zoike is from Mason, Ohio. Hilariously, I have

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Speaker 3: a funny connect that goes back to this show from Mason, Ohio.

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Speaker 3: You remember, and you guys might remember it. Last year

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, how do you? I know you went

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Speaker 2: Ohio is unbelievable. Like the Tommy Hunter interview, he mentioned

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Speaker 2: like some very small town. You're like, oh, yeah, you

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, they have the I forgot the name

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Speaker 3: literally one of my best friends from schools from Hinkley, Ohio.

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Speaker 3: They have the Buzzard Festival. I mentioned the Buzzard Festival

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Speaker 3: of Tommy Hunter. He's like, yep, I know the Buzzer Festival.

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Speaker 3: I have a glass in my kitchen from the Buzzard Festival.

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Speaker 3: So shout out you, Christine. I stole it.

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Speaker 2: How was that even Ohio. That's a very proud state.

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Speaker 2: They're very proud to be from Ohio, one of the proudest.

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Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, go Bucks.

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Speaker 3: Oh h baby, big game coming up a couple of

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. Yeah, it's no Clemson, No, AND's

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Speaker 3: he was the big story in the first game of

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Speaker 3: this series, just because the Mets had come in after

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Speaker 3: this grueling, grueling five game series with the Braves coming

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Speaker 3: off no off days. Of course, with five game series

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Speaker 3: last week, coming straight from the Nationals. Bullpen was beleaguered.

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Speaker 3: We said it from the outset because I believe he

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Speaker 3: to get eight today, maybe nine, and Chris passid. My

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Speaker 3: guy's got that dog in him. He really went hard,

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Speaker 3: got gutted out eight innings and one hundred and fourteen

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Speaker 3: pitches when this bullpen was mostly dead and found away

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Speaker 3: after starting off very hot then kind of hitting a

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Speaker 3: lull a lot of guys getting on base against him

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Speaker 3: in the middle, found five strikeouts over the last three innings,

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Speaker 3: Kay keeping the Reds off the board. Those five strikeouts

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Speaker 3: are very important to some people, including Mark.

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Speaker 2: And I, every of this game very important, considering we

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Speaker 2: five and a half? I got it at six and

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Speaker 2: a half and we were sweating. Little did we know

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Speaker 2: we had cleared it multiple strikeouts before it actually happened.

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Speaker 3: Not paying attention were the were in the outfield concourse

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Speaker 3: kind of where you couldn't see the strikeouts. Those were

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Speaker 3: just kind of like like free balling our analysis there.

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Speaker 3: But Mets really needed that, dude, Mets really needed some innings.

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Speaker 3: And Chris Bassett all year has been reliable for consistent, sturdy,

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Speaker 3: with the press, like what do you go out there

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Speaker 3: to do? It's like, I mean, an Enning's baby, That's

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Speaker 3: all I want to do. Pitch well enough for my

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Speaker 3: team to win, not let those guys in the bullpen

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Speaker 2: The Bassett Hounds we haven't done that in a while.

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Speaker 2: I mean watching him pitch was really great. It was

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Speaker 2: also cool we were out at the ballpark, like you

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Speaker 2: mentioned before the game, just for you guys, getting a

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Speaker 2: little peak behind the curtain. If you're following us on Twitter,

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Speaker 2: you saw a little bit. But we got two more

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Speaker 2: interviews coming at you with some players. We talked to

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Speaker 2: Tomas Nita before this game, which was a killer interview.

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Speaker 2: That guy's absolutely hilarious, and we got Tyler Naquin or

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Speaker 2: as we should say, knock in now because technically it's

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Speaker 2: how it's actually pronounced. But we got those guys coming

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Speaker 2: at you soon. It was cool to see, you know,

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Speaker 2: those guys before the game. Tyler Naquin of course been

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Speaker 2: a beast since he's come to the Mets and was

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Speaker 2: a beast in this.

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Speaker 3: Series as well. Yeah, Tyler Bonds, he actually got the

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Speaker 3: was kind of weird. It's hard to remember it now

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Speaker 3: after the Mets just pulverized the Reds and back to back.

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Speaker 3: Now they're not really pulverized, just really Wednesday was the polverization.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't it was close it. This was one of

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Speaker 3: those games where we felt like this is one that

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Speaker 3: you could see in a different parallel universe, the Mets

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Speaker 3: ballpen blowing. Not yet this one though.

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Speaker 2: No, a good Mets team wins these games like this,

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Speaker 2: Like you said in previous years, maybe this is a

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Speaker 2: little bit different, but like, the Mets won this one

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Speaker 2: because they are just simply the better team. That's really

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Speaker 2: what it came down to in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, rebuiltitation now we won the game too.

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Speaker 3: eyes out. Oh my god, I'll know that I just

434
00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:19,720
Speaker 3: ignored his college.

435
00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,320
Speaker 2: Got funny, But that is funny.

436
00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,480
Speaker 3: Other cool thing to happen in this game, Darren Ruff

437
00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,320
Speaker 3: got another big hit. He has five RBIs and fifteen

438
00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,520
Speaker 3: mets at bats, which is just ridiculous.

439
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Speaker 2: I love Darren Ruff, just like it takes Dan vogel

440
00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,960
Speaker 2: Back takes really good at bats. Holler Nick Whinn takes

441
00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,000
Speaker 2: really good at bats, Dan or Darren. Darren Ruff takes

442
00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,440
Speaker 2: really good at bats as well. Like putting these guys

443
00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,880
Speaker 2: in the middle of the order is just it's such

444
00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,160
Speaker 2: an improvement on what we had with J. D. Davis

445
00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,360
Speaker 2: and Dom Smith earlier in the year. It's crazy how

446
00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,040
Speaker 2: much better this lineup in offense moves.

447
00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,680
Speaker 3: I'm also just I'm racking my brain right now because

448
00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,160
Speaker 3: I remember they had a funny walk up song and

449
00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,680
Speaker 3: what happened. I was like, Oh, that was a funny

450
00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,680
Speaker 3: walk up song, but now I can't remember it thinking back.

451
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Speaker 2: Darren Ruff, I know today it was like it was.

452
00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,200
Speaker 3: Like it was a rap song, like a poppy raps song.

453
00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,880
Speaker 3: I was like, DA's Darren Roff's walk up song like

454
00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:02,680
Speaker 3: you nomber right.

455
00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,360
Speaker 2: Now, you are right? It is. It is a bit

456
00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,399
Speaker 2: of a rap song, but I'm not sure exactly what

457
00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,600
Speaker 2: it is. But today today with the international, was it

458
00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,439
Speaker 2: International Women's Day or was it just Women's Day at

459
00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:12,000
Speaker 2: the stadium?

460
00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,440
Speaker 3: I have no idea, so I'm just gonna call it

461
00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,439
Speaker 3: Women's daycase that's what the Mets official Twitter called it.

462
00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're done with Game two now, so let's

463
00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,399
Speaker 2: just move to Game three. But Mets Twitter was saying that,

464
00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,360
Speaker 2: or Mets official Twitter was saying that was Women's Day

465
00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,359
Speaker 2: at City Field. So a lot of the players on

466
00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,919
Speaker 2: the Mets team were rocking songs or their walk up

467
00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,560
Speaker 2: songs by female artists, which I think leads to the question, James,

468
00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,399
Speaker 2: who had the best one? We can? Should we just

469
00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,000
Speaker 2: like run through the entire list or do we just

470
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Speaker 2: want to say the ones that were the best.

471
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Speaker 3: No, We're gonna run through the entire list. I'm pulling

472
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Speaker 3: it up right now. On Twitter, I was on our

473
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Speaker 3: page because I was checking how well the Starling martake

474
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Speaker 3: giveaway is doing, and it's wow, pretty good. Yeah.

475
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Speaker 2: No, we've getted que a bit of followers.

476
00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, only a few followers are gone to say,

477
00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,840
Speaker 3: mess up is gonna pass me tonight.

478
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Speaker 2: That's impressing, you know what this is. That's good though.

479
00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,399
Speaker 2: That's good because then it'll feed in followers to you

480
00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,199
Speaker 2: on your personal one.

481
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not wrong about that, all right, But here

482
00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,199
Speaker 3: we got the list of also just growing past a

483
00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,879
Speaker 3: great meme I made about again Tyler, because Tyler when

484
00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,439
Speaker 3: his berry bonds right now, we'll talking about how well

485
00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,320
Speaker 3: he's played in a moment here. But Taylan Walker came

486
00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,720
Speaker 3: out to Run the World by Beyonce, which is it

487
00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,159
Speaker 3: either Peterlonzo Edge of seventeen by Stevie Nicks, which is

488
00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,119
Speaker 3: a banger but also a pretty sad song, as most

489
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Speaker 3: of Stevie Nicks's are.

490
00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,919
Speaker 2: So I don't think I know that song. I think

491
00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,640
Speaker 2: that was one of the few that I don't know about.

492
00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:26,399
Speaker 3: The bump is a song. Oh that's a banger, banger,

493
00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,359
Speaker 3: that's a band song. Yeah, Mark Hannah, you ought to

494
00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,240
Speaker 3: know by Alana's more set. But I do have that.

495
00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:32,400
Speaker 3: I have that one.

496
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Speaker 2: Like what you say, do you have what that one

497
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,120
Speaker 2: sounds like? For me? I'm interested to say.

498
00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,840
Speaker 3: Kevin sang a karaoke in the office. Oh, okay, got

499
00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,440
Speaker 3: a great song yep and single Lady. Second Beyonce appearance

500
00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,439
Speaker 3: the Wisky or made Juice by Lizzo, which I I

501
00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,919
Speaker 3: can't even imagine that Luiski or picked this song. I

502
00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,639
Speaker 3: feel like this is a situation whereis Army is like

503
00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,640
Speaker 3: either forgot or just didn't do it, and the team

504
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,280
Speaker 3: just picked the most popular song they could think of?

505
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Speaker 2: Is Juice the one where it's like the popular talk

506
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Speaker 2: song right now? What is ju juste the popular TikTok

507
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,160
Speaker 2: Lizzo song right now?

508
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,639
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not TikTok enough to answer that question.

509
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:11,680
Speaker 2: Okay, well, yeah, picking Lizzo was never on my radar whatsoever.

510
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Francisco indor my Boo by the ghost Town DJs,

511
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,240
Speaker 3: which is not a song people know, but it's a

512
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,199
Speaker 3: very Yeah, it's just like become a very popular like

513
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,000
Speaker 3: remix and meme song, which is like, it's just a

514
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:21,560
Speaker 3: funny song.

515
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,520
Speaker 2: It's the running Man challenge. If you guys remember that

516
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,040
Speaker 2: from Vine back in the day.

517
00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 3: Yes, Starling Marte in Olividabla by Jenu Rivera.

518
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 2: It was a it's a it's a Latin song. Listen

519
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,720
Speaker 2: to it, me and you would never have heard this one.

520
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,760
Speaker 3: James McCann nine to five by Dolly Parton and Want

521
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Speaker 3: to Be by the Spice Girls, which is big for James.

522
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Speaker 2: Mccannon, Big for James mcannn big for the stock. Two

523
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,679
Speaker 2: respect points there because he picked two good songs for

524
00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,199
Speaker 2: the day. Because normally James McCann's walk up we have

525
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 2: to have a talk with him. It's not the strong

526
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 2: Dragons he sees. His walk up music is not the

527
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Speaker 2: best butt on Women's Dad City Field. He picked two

528
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 2: good songs, so two respect points to James McCann.

529
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,679
Speaker 3: Two bank Jeff McNeil Wood Dreams are Made Up by

530
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 3: Hillary Stuff which is really fun.

531
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Speaker 2: Me bop that's a certified bop right.

532
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 3: There, Tomas Nido b the b The Boone Bone by

533
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 3: Selena really good. Another banger, Random a Man, I Feel

534
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,239
Speaker 3: Like a Woman by Shania Twain, which Keith was like,

535
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,919
Speaker 3: I really like this song, and then he was talking

536
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 3: about it, and then Gary started talking and Keith goes,

537
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 3: are we on the air? And Guy goes, yes, we

538
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 3: are in the air. Keith had no idea. He talked

539
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 3: like thirty seconds basically about Shania Twain that they were

540
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Speaker 3: on there.

541
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Speaker 2: That's an absolute banger too. I remember being at a

542
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: bar in San Diego and that came on and everyone

543
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,159
Speaker 2: stopped what they were doing and they were they were

544
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 2: really going hard singing. Man, I feel like a woman.

545
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 2: It's just it's a good song. It's a great sing along.

546
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,239
Speaker 3: Very single song. And then last one Darren Ruff We

547
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 3: Are Who We Are by Kesha.

548
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Speaker 2: Which like Darrin Ruff's thirty six, I don't I don't

549
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 2: know where we the Kesha music and him really overlaps,

550
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

551
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 3: You know, late prime maybe a time of career took

552
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 3: a lot of the americanized culture that was a little

553
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 3: bit a couple of years behind. That's where he picked

554
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Speaker 3: it up. And also the one that's not on here,

555
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Speaker 3: which I'm gonna pick for my winner. Yeah, Daniel vocal

556
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 3: Back Milkshakes by Akilas. Yeah that's whatever, Hope.

557
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 2: That's a killer, killer choice by Daniel vogel Back. I

558
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 2: can't believe they didn't inclue him on this list. Maybe

559
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 2: it was a game time decision. He was like, I

560
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 2: really gotta think about this one, but yeah.

561
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 3: Mil Chicks's. He was racking his brain.

562
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 2: It could have been you never know, like you gotta

563
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,159
Speaker 2: you have one chance to get the song right, and

564
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 2: Dan vogel Back hit it right on the head if

565
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna pick him because obviously now knowing that,

566
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Speaker 2: I think it was between Jeff McNeil What Dreams Are

567
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 2: Made Of and Brandon emmo Man, I feel like a

568
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 2: woman like those. I think McNeil's is just the funniest though,

569
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 2: because like I can totally see McNeil doing the little

570
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 2: dance to Hillary Duff. This is what dreams are made of.

571
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. I still think that that McCann and also,

572
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 3: I mean Canna can is pretty good. You want to

573
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 3: knows that's a fantastic song. It's a little bit too

574
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 3: emotional for the baseball field. Maybe it's a deep cut.

575
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 3: That's a deep cut.

576
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 2: Also, you brought up Keith not knowing he was on air.

577
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 2: Did you catch in Game two when he talked about

578
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 2: not wanting to broadcast the Phillies games because he hates

579
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 2: watching them play.

580
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 3: I saw the on Twitter by watching most of that

581
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 3: game in a bar, so I missed, Uh, I missed,

582
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 3: I missed the comment. But can you go into it

583
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 3: because today he talked about how much he I think

584
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 3: I believe didn't want to watch the Reds plays. How

585
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 3: bad at baseball they even playing? Garry just like went

586
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 3: to a laughing fit.

587
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Keith was talking about that he doesn't like

588
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 2: doing the Phillies games. He hates broadcasting them. He's like,

589
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: it's it's not they don't play, they don't play good baseball.

590
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 2: He's like, I just I don't like watching them play.

591
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: Basically said like he hates Philadelphia, doesn't think the team's

592
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 2: very good, and it's not worth his time to broadcast

593
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: the game against them because they're the Phillies. Who cares

594
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 2: about them? So he brought those sentiments into Game three

595
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 2: against the Reds, who played really really bad baseball in

596
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Speaker 2: Game three.

597
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 3: As bad as baseball as I can remember watching a

598
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 3: team play. They were missing cutoff men, they were throwing

599
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 3: balls around the field that shouldn't have been It was

600
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 3: just like it was. It was bizarre baseball. Just they

601
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 3: popping the ball up a lot too. Keith was Keith's like,

602
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 3: the team has a lot of uppercuts, why they keep

603
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:47,959
Speaker 3: popping it up?

604
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: And Gary put that on the tee for him. He's like, Keith,

605
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 2: what do all these infield pop ups mean? And then

606
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: he dropped the uppercut line, which they I think they

607
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: started giggling. There's a lot of giggling going on in

608
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 2: the broadcast booth today, which is exactly what you want

609
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 2: when you're a Mets fan. When you hear those guys

610
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: started getting to get giddy. You know, this game was

611
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 2: completely out of reach, which it was early on.

612
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: Also because this was a day game and it was

613
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 3: like really comfortable. Like also just temperature wise, we had

614
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: like two of the hottest nights I can remember, or

615
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 3: two of the hottest weeks I can remember New York

616
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 3: over the last two nights. Yeah, Monday, we were at

617
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 3: the ballpark. We was just like dripping in sweats, sitting

618
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 3: in chairs. Tuesday, I went to a concert Shout Out

619
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 3: the Glass Animals, and it was just like I just

620
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 3: couldn't stop sweating, and like it sat an indoor air

621
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 3: condition bar and was like still sweating. I was so hot.

622
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: Like I got like one of those fruly frozen drinks,

623
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 3: like I know that's I never get drinks like that.

624
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 3: I was like there was like they on the menu,

625
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: just like die bar and broken. I just had frozen

626
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: drink and I was like give me that and it

627
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 3: was James. Yeah, it was Yeah. I guess it was

628
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: like this apple strawberry pink like like early thing, and

629
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 3: I was like, this is incredible. I'm so we had

630
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 3: to be drinking this right now. But it was just

631
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 3: hot and today, like the humidity broke. The Mets were

632
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: up early and didn't even have a moment where you

633
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 3: ever thought they were possibly going to lose, and they

634
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: were just having a little fun. I think it was

635
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: camp day. It's always like whenever this day game like

636
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: this is just call it camp day. There were a

637
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: lot of kids there though, and they were panning around

638
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 3: to them. So a fun day in the park.

639
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Door two hits, two RBIs, three runs, he tied

640
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: I believe Jose rey Is for the most RBIs of

641
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: shortstops had in the season, and he also the game

642
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: before that, right in Game two, became the first Mets

643
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: shortstop to have multi twenty home run seasons in a

644
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 2: year or in a career.

645
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 3: He also in this game with the run he's first

646
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 3: run he scored ty David Wright with the Mets record

647
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: for scoring a run in thirteen straight games.

648
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: Dude, it's a good baseball players.

649
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 3: Ops is creeping up to the eight twenties.

650
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,479
Speaker 2: Now I believe he's starting to get close to like

651
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: the dude is just scalding hot. Today Game three felt

652
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: like a perfect day to give him a day off.

653
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 2: But think Lindor is like, I'm hot. You don't take

654
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 2: me out. Now, you can't do it. I want to play.

655
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: I want to be out there playing the Reds and

656
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 2: TJ's or Zoke whatever his name is, And now you

657
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: just can't leave.

658
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 3: I think Jeff McNeil also extended his hit streak to

659
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 3: I want to say, thirteen games after.

660
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: You got this one, got a double down the line.

661
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: Yep, Vogi had a two RBI double, got three RBIs

662
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: in total. Of course, my man Tyler Naquin another long

663
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 3: home run to double balls and play of one hundred

664
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 3: and seven one hundred four miles an hour. How good

665
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 3: is this guy? It's so sick.

666
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: It's so sick that this guy is now part of

667
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,719
Speaker 2: this lineup, and like even when he's not, you can

668
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 2: bring him off the bench and be like, oh, so

669
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: competent major league baseball player. More than competent good.

670
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: Keith was like nake one's got some power.

671
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: That's that's a classic Keith thing to be like, until

672
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: he shows me something, I'm not gonna he can surprise me.

673
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: I want to be surprised, and he definitely was. By

674
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: nake Win this week.

675
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 3: I mean Tyler Nigwin today, second highest, third highest ops

676
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 3: the entire Mets lineup, only behind Pete.

677
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 2: Seven of his eleven hits have been extra base hits,

678
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: three home runs, two doubles, two triples. YEP, sign me

679
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: up every single day of the week. The trade has

680
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: looked great.

681
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 3: Four hundred thirty nine foot home run on Wednesday, third

682
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 3: longest by any Meda city field this season.

683
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: It's just disgusting and we.

684
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 3: Know and we know the longest James McCay, James.

685
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: Mcan Jake Freeley hit a bomb this series too. He

686
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: hit one of like what off the Shay Bridge, which

687
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 2: I didn't know he had that kind of power.

688
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 3: Oh, he's always had the good skills set, he's just

689
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 3: never been able to play enough to actually show it off.

690
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: And Keith was like, this guy has less than two

691
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: hundred batting average. He's really showing me something. Good eye,

692
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 3: good power, good ball player. And I was like, it's

693
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 3: pretty funny.

694
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: Keith. Keith was prime Keith this weekend.

695
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so week just I mean Keith I think also

696
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 3: has like this a version for the Reds from his

697
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: Cardinals days and just from the seventies eighties baseball. And

698
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: I think that when a team that you don't like

699
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: is also playing badgere's gonna pile on them. Also, Pete

700
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: in this game four hard hit balls, three hits after

701
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: he didn't get a hit for the first two games

702
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: in this series. It was just just this game was

703
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: like bother man. It was smooth and easy.

704
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: Isn't it nice too? Because I feel like before the

705
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 2: deadline and all the acquisitions, we talked about that the

706
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: lineup if lind Or and Pete don't do any of it.

707
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: If they don't do it, it kind of has a

708
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: hard time scoring. And Pete went over in the first

709
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 2: two games and the Mets were scoring like it was

710
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: completely fine. They had no problems.

711
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 3: It's just easy as heck. Also, Taiwan Walker back on

712
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 3: track after the rough start on Friday, six innings to

713
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 3: earn three walks, five k's yep four seamer slide, the

714
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: split change all working, and he has had those comments

715
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 3: after the game, but how disappointed he was in his

716
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: start and how he felt bad the Bullpen had to

717
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 3: wear it so really cool that, you know, really cool

718
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 3: that he got it in check. And it also just

719
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: is kind of driving home the theme that we talked

720
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 3: about last year with Taiwan about how much he very

721
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 3: clearly loves day games. He's our day man on my

722
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: always sunny Philadelphia fans out there. One of the great

723
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: shows ever one point two to three era for Taiwan

724
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 3: this year in day games five, nine to two at night.

725
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: It's crazy, that's crazy. It's all that's driven a lot

726
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 3: by the two really bad starts he's had in night

727
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 3: games this year. But it's it's just ridiculous. And he

728
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 3: even said it, Gary talked about it. He could just

729
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: wake up, go to the park, and he's pitching before

730
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: he even thinks about what's going on with the night games.

731
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: He kind of thinks about the start of all day

732
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 3: So that's interesting.

733
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: Trying to keep it correct, Yeah, that Taiwan almost doesn't

734
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: have enough time for a day game to like get

735
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: into his head or whatever it is.

736
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: Wait, I'm looking at the outlet. Did we steal the

737
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 3: Big three from John? Did we just do with ourselves?

738
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: I think we might have. I think we might have.

739
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: Sorry, Johnny Boy, that's a shame.

740
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: That's a shame.

741
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we'll skip that one.

742
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: I guess no Big three for this episode. I didn't.

743
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: I literally didn't even scroll that far down on the notes.

744
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 3: To see that. Oh good for.

745
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 2: International Women's Day. That's funny.

746
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 3: You got a six game winning streak. Game back to

747
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 3: the Braves Doubleheather Saturday, they met Stars have a one

748
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: four zero e RA in that time. Mets have also,

749
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 3: we said at the top of the show, didn't trail

750
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: during the having trailed their entire sixteen winning streak. There's

751
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: also eleven time the Mets have scored ten plus runs

752
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: this year, most in the National League. And this also

753
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 3: completes a full turn through the Mets rotation where no

754
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 3: star there took twenty pitches and also sixteen winning streak

755
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 3: to get through the first And I also saw a

756
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: staff flash that he was on the broadcast or on

757
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 3: Twitter or something that the Mets are seeing the most

758
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 3: pitches of any team in the first inning this year

759
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 3: from the hitters standpoint over eighteen.

760
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: That feels about right, especially with the new acquisitions, Like

761
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: these guys just take a lot, a lot of pitches.

762
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: So if you get through the first three, and then

763
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 2: you get to vogel Back or whatever it's gonna be.

764
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: He always has a good at bat and Aquin has

765
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: a good at bats. Rough we just keep going through it.

766
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: This lineup is just so significantly better. And I got

767
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: to imagine the doubters and the haters of this Mets

768
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: tread trade deadline feel like they got a little egg

769
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: on their face. And you know what, it's fine, just

770
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: admit you were wrong. The Mets make good moves and

771
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: you can be happy now that we got tyler Naquin

772
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: and Dan vogel Back and Darren Ruff. You don't have

773
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: to be curmudgety anymore.

774
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: Even Michael Gibbons got some outs in this series.

775
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: Had a nice little appearance in what was it, Game one,

776
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: I think or Game two two too.

777
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, just over all, Mets trade down deadline acquisitions right

778
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: so through John, if you can get us how many

779
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: at bats they have total before, because I'd like to

780
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: see what the sample on this is. But three forty

781
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: eight four twenty six six fifty two slash, five home

782
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 3: runs twenty two RBIs.

783
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: Big, big hepe for this Mets team, especially when the

784
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: holes that they're really filling were again the JD. Davis,

785
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: Dom Smith Holes that we were talking about who didn't

786
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: really produce at all this year. So to go from

787
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: almost little to no production to elite levels of production

788
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: is just it's so wonderful. It's I welcome it with

789
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: open arms.

790
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: And also, you know, gets p the day off in

791
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: the DH it keeps it, keeps Canada Fresher, keeps McNeil, Fresher,

792
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: keeps Korme Fresher, keeps Escobar fresh as Nimmol.

793
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: Got a day off too, which was nice.

794
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: More guys around here to carry the weight. You don't

795
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 3: really feel like you're missing that much, which is kind

796
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: of the staple of a good team.

797
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna go ahead and now bring in John

798
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: because of course we have the estimate. I don't I

799
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: don't know what we've come up with here to go

800
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: with the last one, because I technically lost because Edwin

801
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: Diaz and the Lexus Diaz didn't pitch a single in

802
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: this entire series.

803
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: If you had to ask me, I'd tell you that

804
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: zero is less than five, right, that is that is true.

805
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: But you know, if you're if you're using the various

806
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: sports book out there, and you make a wager of

807
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: sorts and they only play like seven innings. Sometimes they

808
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: don't give it to you if you bet the under.

809
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: I see this more like you're making a football bet

810
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: and the receiver just never gets in the game. It's interesting, John.

811
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: I think we gotta let John make the decision here

812
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: because I think we're We're on both sides. You know.

813
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 5: I honestly think that listeners should be the ones who

814
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 5: make this decision. Okay, I'm not entirely sure that that

815
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 5: the three of us are equipped to make this an

816
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 5: extenuating circumstance we didn't see coming, but I think that

817
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 5: let the people be the ones who decide the fate here.

818
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: You guys that, Yeah, I'm down, totally cool, Dex. I

819
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: know how badly the listeners all want to see Mark

820
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: where it's like see that next April.

821
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: It seems it seems like everybody wants me to be

822
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: the guy that's where it gets. So I guess we'll

823
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: put it on Twitter and Instagram. We'll put a poll

824
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: out tomorrow, so on Thursday, the day that you guys

825
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: are listening to this, whether or not you think that

826
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: one should count. So as of right now, with an asterix,

827
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: it's what five to one.

828
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 5: Still five to one, Yes, James, to answer your question

829
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 5: real quick, because sample size matters. Eighty nine at bats

830
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 5: for those three. So, I mean, look, it's it's been

831
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 5: exceptionally Uh, it's been great to watch those three. The

832
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 5: injection of excitement and they're just there's not an easy

833
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 5: out in this lineup. Nope, it's it's just incredible, and

834
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 5: real quick before we get into this episode's estimate, it's

835
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 5: Darren Roff. He had the best song. Darren Ruff's a vibe.

836
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm gonna ask Dj Razor. I don't know

837
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 5: the song exactly, but I'm gonna get it from DJ

838
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 5: Razor what Darren Ruff's up to for his at bats

839
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 5: and then for him to go with Kesh And you

840
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 5: don't expect it, Yeah, you don't expect it at all,

841
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 5: but low key like this guy's got the tunes.

842
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: Definitely. Yeah.

843
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 5: I went to Cruz last summer, foud a whole new

844
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 5: catalog of music. So I hear you saying, yeah, oh man,

845
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 5: where are we going next summer?

846
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

847
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 5: We'll find out, all right, es the met here we go,

848
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 5: Mets Phillies a big three game series. City Field is

849
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 5: going to be rackus wear You're black on Friday Night,

850
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 5: Max Jake back to back, couldn't have it set up

851
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: and great pitching matchups. Actually, I'll let you guys preview

852
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 5: that a little bit. But Kyle Schwarber second most strikeouts

853
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 5: in all of baseball this season, behind only au heney

854
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 5: O Suarez seventy excuse me, seventeen strikeouts and fifty one

855
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 5: played appearances against the Mets only this year, a k

856
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 5: rate of thirty three percent. So I think I see

857
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 5: Mark doing some some thinking.

858
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm doing some thinking.

859
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 5: How many times will Mets pitchers strike out Kyle Schwarber

860
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 5: during this three game series? And I'm gonna throw it

861
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 5: to Mark first because last week he wanted to go

862
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 5: first so badly, So Mark hopefully going first this week

863
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 5: doesn't come back to bite you.

864
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: All right, that's thirty three game series. You gotta think

865
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna get about twelve at bats or played appearances leadoff, man,

866
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with five. I

867
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: think five is gonna be my number for Kyle Schwarburn

868
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: in this series.

869
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 5: Strike out the whole series.

870
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was exactly the number I was

871
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: going to pick it makes me feel good because you've

872
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: been pretty money with the numbers recently. Now there's a

873
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: tough call here. Now I kind of have to decide

874
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: what's what type of future i'd like. I'd like both

875
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: for myself here how I want how I want to

876
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: root this series? Like how I would feel because almost

877
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: I almost have like I can go like basically be

878
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 3: one higher, one lower, and five in the direction. Almost

879
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: can't get worse than that. I'm gonna just very quickly

880
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: just like stall for a second and just see Kyle

881
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: Schwarber's rolling k rate and see if it's something that's

882
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: been trending up or trending down.

883
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: Look at this guy using fancy grafts rolls luckily, Yeah, luckily.

884
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: I fangrasts open right now as I usually do.

885
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 5: Striking out like he's been striking out a machine recently.

886
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 5: I'll tell you that he has been striking out like

887
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 5: a machine.

888
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if I love to hear that, or

889
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I love it for the mets. I don't

890
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: know if I love it for this bet anymore.

891
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: The estimate I am going to go less than five? Wow,

892
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: okay than five.

893
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 5: I think that's an upset. I would have gone over

894
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 5: five getting lead off in the lineup, and you got

895
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 5: Max and Jake, although he did take Max deep twice

896
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 5: back in in May.

897
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 3: Wow.

898
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 5: James, I am inter I'm kind of shocked.

899
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I feel better with you taking the under

900
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: than I do with you taking the over.

901
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: I will say that, I just I know that in

902
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: these estimates I've had a shocking amount of luck with unders,

903
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: and I think that.

904
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: You're an under guy. You've always been the under guy.

905
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: I think I think there's a good chance that that

906
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 3: even if there's just one game where kyleeg Schwarber strikes

907
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: at one time, I do think that gives me some

908
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: kind of advantage, Like Marks basiclely banking on you're banking on

909
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 3: You're banking on these multi strikeout games that could happen,

910
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: especially against Jacob Max. I just I have this feeling

911
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: that he's Kyles Swarber is is significantly I would I'll

912
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 3: even take this claim better hit than the most hitters

913
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 3: in this lineup right now, and I think he probably

914
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: he's face Jake and Max enough I think to have

915
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 3: more of a plan.

916
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: I don't know.

917
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 3: I just feel like this is a very big series

918
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: for the Phillies, and he's the guy who's like kind

919
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 3: of becoming their emotional leader. He's been playing some of

920
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: the best baseball on their team. From a hitting perspective.

921
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: I don't know, he's doing the field as usual, but

922
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I just have a gut feeling,

923
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: gut feeling. I went with it.

924
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: It's gonna be close, It's gonna be close. John is

925
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: always thank you for providing the excellent estimate questions of block. Yeah,

926
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: we'll see We'll see you next time. This is also

927
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: a perfect time for us to transition now into that

928
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: Matt Eddie interview. Like we said from Baseball America, dude's genius,

929
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: Dude's really smart over there. Baseball America one of the

930
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: best publications, especially when you're talking about prospects. It's actually

931
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: kind of a connection that we got with James here

932
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: because James knows him a little bit better than I do.

933
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've applied to a couple jobs Baseball America. Never

934
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 3: got them. But Matt, Matt's always that's always been a

935
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 3: friend and a fan of the podcast since we began. Basically,

936
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: so cool to connect with him again. Also is great

937
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: to pick his brain on the week of Baseball America's

938
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: big drop of their top one hundred and all of

939
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: their individual team top thirties, including the Mets, of course,

940
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: which kind of spurned this interview. Also just amazing to

941
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: talk to Matt because he kind of growing similar to

942
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: more seriously similar to Mark growing similar to me. He's

943
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 3: never really done anything that wasn't just like analyzing baseball prospects,

944
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 3: I believe from him talking to him before that his

945
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: first job out of college was with Baseball America and

946
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: he's just rose into the top being executive out of there,

947
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: so which is awesome, so really really cool. Good to

948
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 3: hear from Matt, and yeah, let's stick it away all right.

949
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: So we now are joined by Matt Eddie of Baseball America.

950
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: He came on the podcast last year did something similar

951
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: talking prospects. Baseball America the place to go if you

952
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: want your prospect information, and MAT's Matt's a pretty big

953
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: guy over there, along with a big Mets fan, so

954
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 2: we're super excited to pick his brain start talking about

955
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: some of these Mets prospects. After a red series that

956
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: was relatively not that exciting in the grand scheme of

957
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: things compared to what just happened with the Braves past series. So, Matt,

958
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: thanks for coming on. We do appreciate you hopping back

959
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: on the Mess Up Podcast.

960
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, thanks for having me. It's been onward and

961
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 4: upward for you you guys as a team.

962
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bitfer than the last time you spoke to us,

963
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 3: same time of year, though, I feel like, yeah, definitely,

964
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: So Matt, just to start out, I think the number

965
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 3: one prospect every single Mets fan wants to talk about.

966
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: Number one Mets prospect we get the most questions about.

967
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: Is Francisco Alvarez recently moved up to Triple A Syracuse.

968
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: I think he. I'm assuming he's number one of the

969
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: new Mets Top thirty is dropping probably Thursday when you

970
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 3: guys are listening to this show on Baseball America. So

971
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: just pontificate on Alvarez for a few minutes. Tell me

972
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: your favorite things about him.

973
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Alvarez, you don't find much disagreement that he's going

974
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 4: to hit and hit for power. I think conservatively you

975
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 4: go to sixty on both on the twenty eighty scale.

976
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 4: You know, there's no unanimous agreement on how good defensively

977
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 4: he's going to be. But he has the tools and

978
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 4: the makeup more importantly, just stick and catcher. So I

979
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 4: think that's where he's going to play, certainly the large

980
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 4: beginning portion of his career. He's yeah, excellent, excellent prospect,

981
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 4: you know, to be as young as he is hitting

982
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 4: a triple A. Yeah.

983
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: Do you think that there's a chance that if he

984
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: came up this year at the major league level he

985
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: would be someone who could adjust to the major league pitching?

986
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 4: Well, it's possible. You know that the trades and Mets

987
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 4: have made have lessened that demand, But I think I

988
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 4: think it's possible if you kind of ease him in

989
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: that I'm seven eight nine to start and kind of

990
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 4: get his peed wet.

991
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 3: Do you think that there is at least any likelihood

992
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: still event this point in his development that catcher is

993
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: not where he winds up or Do you think that

994
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 3: is the that's the destination for Alvarez defensively.

995
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely the destination, you know, definitely in his twenties.

996
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 4: The issue is, like, in addition, aside from DH, there

997
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 4: really isn't an obvious place you would blame him so

998
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 4: that he's you know, catcher or DH. The good news

999
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 4: being that he's got a middle of the order bat

1000
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 4: so either way.

1001
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. One other thing I just wanted to talk about

1002
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: Alvarez is that I've seen that he's only been a

1003
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: few weeks in Triple A, so the sample isn't really great,

1004
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: but we have seen his plate discipline look very similar

1005
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: to how it's looked up with parts of the mind is.

1006
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 3: But the walk grade has had a few take increase.

1007
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 3: Is that something that is normal when a guy jumps

1008
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: a level or is that just because of the weird

1009
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 3: talent dispare of the NAT between Double A and Triple

1010
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: A or what could be what could be the reason

1011
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: for an increased walk grade from Double A Triple A.

1012
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it might be a bit of the ladder. I

1013
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 4: think we are seeing the new Triple A reality. Pitchers

1014
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 4: are a little older. They nibble a little more than

1015
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 4: used to be the case, you know, because the best

1016
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 4: pitchers are needed on the major league team, so that

1017
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: the Triple A talent tends to be a little less

1018
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 4: on the pitching side.

1019
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: I want to switch topics here, or switch gears, I

1020
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: should say a little bit more, because they're still talking prospects.

1021
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 2: The Mets did a really good job this trade deadline

1022
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: of not giving up any of their big pieces and

1023
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: still improving as a team. But a lot of people

1024
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: do feel like that the moves that they did make

1025
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: maybe weren't as good as they would have liked, or

1026
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: that they gave up too much simply in that Darren

1027
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: rough trade. The guys that I think we got rid

1028
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: of what Nick's walk, Carson Seymour and I'm forgetting one more, James.

1029
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: Do you remember the guy's name?

1030
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a Puncky. He's a Pucky was the guy.

1031
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: So who do you think or what did you think

1032
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: of those guys? Just to maybe calm Mets fans down

1033
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: the world, whether these aren't the major pieces.

1034
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we had Carson Seymour ranked the highest.

1035
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 4: He was what was his seventh round last year. The

1036
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 4: Mets internally kind of viewed him more as like a

1037
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 4: power ground ball profile upside for him sinker breaking pitch,

1038
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: you know, but he did pitch better at high A

1039
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 4: than he had at low way, which is encouraging. Zwak

1040
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 4: was one of the big helium guys because he was

1041
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 4: a seventeenth rounder who went from completely off the radar

1042
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 4: to top thirty guy. You know, Deception three pitch left hander.

1043
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 4: He's tall, good extension. Again with him, I think with

1044
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 4: both you're probably looking relief or swing man type upside,

1045
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 4: So I would expect both will probably pitch in the

1046
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 4: major leagues, but not have tremendously high sing.

1047
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: Did you think that there was enough reason just stay

1048
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: with the trade deadline, enough reason for the Mets to

1049
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: have held on to their other mid top ten type prospects,

1050
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 3: the Vientos, the Mauricio and Obailey, it seemed like was

1051
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: untouchable as well. But then like Ziegler, maybe even Javier

1052
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: A Tensi and Joel Diaz some other guys were creeping

1053
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: into the top tennis pitchers. Do you think any of

1054
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: those players as they are right now ceilings were worth

1055
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: keeping exchange for rental that could have helped this major

1056
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: league team.

1057
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: Based on what I know, I wouldn't call them untouchable.

1058
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know exactly what was on the table,

1059
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 4: you know, would it makes sense for two months of

1060
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 4: Wilson contraras Maybe? Maybe not, Like that's kind of what

1061
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 4: we're viewing as the big fish, you know, the Phillies

1062
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 4: when they traded for David Robertson, You know, Ben Brown

1063
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: is not a household name, but he's building a lot

1064
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 4: of esteem among scouts, so he might have been. It's

1065
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 4: been viewed as comparable to any of the players you

1066
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 4: mentioned to other teams.

1067
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: I know that Ziegler.

1068
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: There's like a right now in your guys' top thirty rankings,

1069
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: there's like a big chunk of the Mets pitchers. So

1070
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: from eight all the way down to I think fourteen

1071
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: is all Mets pitchers with Ziegler, Tidwell, Matt Allen, Joel Diaz, Budo,

1072
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: Mike Vassel, and Dominic Hambell. Which one of those guys

1073
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: do you think really sticks out as your favorite in

1074
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: that group of the young Mets pitchers.

1075
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: That's a good one.

1076
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: You know.

1077
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: Matt Allen at his best I think would hold that title.

1078
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 4: We haven't seen him at his best really since the

1079
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 4: Alternate training site. You know, they expect him back in

1080
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 4: the instructional League. That's like a like the realistic timetable

1081
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 4: for his return. We haven't seen him since his brief

1082
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen pro debut. So for upside, I pick him

1083
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 4: for another pick. You know, Ziegler is interesting power stuff.

1084
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 4: He's young, He's to throw more strikes and Hamill has

1085
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 4: some interesting traits too, but I think I would stick

1086
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 4: with Alan Interesting.

1087
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: Interesting. I know, like this Mets after the draft that

1088
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: just happened, and we'll speak on the draft here in

1089
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: your second but the Mets farm system as a whole

1090
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: has just looked as a lot deeper, a lot stronger,

1091
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: and especially not making those trades over at Baseball America.

1092
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: What are you guys just thinking as the farm system

1093
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: as a whole right now?

1094
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, they entered the season number sixteen. I think they

1095
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 4: would definitely move into the top ten consideration. You know, Parata,

1096
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 4: Kevin Parata, and Jeed Williams, the first rounders were consensus guys.

1097
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 4: That puts them in the discussion for ten. I forget

1098
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 4: whether the Podres ranked ahead of them, but they certainly

1099
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 4: will not right ahead of the Mets now, but I

1100
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 4: think ten as a ballpark is a good place to start.

1101
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, out of those Mets draft picks, who would won

1102
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: your favorite pick? And then who is Baseball America the

1103
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: highest on if those are the same more different.

1104
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be Parata, Kevin Parada, the Georgia Tech catcher.

1105
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 4: You know, there was I believe there was some some

1106
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 4: scuttle butt that he might be a one to one consideration,

1107
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 4: so that he fell to eleventh. Not entirely sure why

1108
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 4: that was the case, but it was tremendous value of

1109
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 4: eleventh overall. When you have a catcher who hit more

1110
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 4: home runs than he had strikeouts, I believe, and you know,

1111
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 4: like Alvarez has six hit six power upside and you know,

1112
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 4: middle of the order type of production profile, I think

1113
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 4: I think that's the pick.

1114
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: I know a lot of Mets fans get a little

1115
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: bit confused seeing a guy like Francisco Avarez in the system,

1116
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and

1117
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 2: then seeing them go after a guy like Kevin Parada.

1118
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: Me and James have tried to explain many of times

1119
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: why that doesn't necessarily matter. But maybe you can put

1120
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: it into better words as to why a guy like

1121
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: Kevin Parada is such a valuable prospect in the system.

1122
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Baseball is a funny game, isn't it. You know,

1123
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: you're just trying to stockpile the most talent. You know,

1124
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 4: player values can be elastic. You know, players failed for

1125
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 4: all sorts of different reasons, so it's always good to

1126
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 4: have reinforcements and in the case of these two, in particular,

1127
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 4: d H is on the table as a position they

1128
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: would be capable of playing in the major leagues if

1129
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 4: they reached their upside potential.

1130
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 3: That's pretty funny. I always like to hear a scubblebub

1131
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 3: mentioned a show. That's one of our better words this episode.

1132
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 4: How there's a lot of great words that sound funny

1133
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 4: in the English language.

1134
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: Staying with the comparison of guys the Mets draft and

1135
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 3: in correlation with the guys the Met's already had in

1136
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 3: the system. On this new list from Baseball America, you

1137
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 3: guys have Jet Williams ranked one spot ahead of Ronnie

1138
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: Mauricio on the Mets list. Ryan Marisio is a guy

1139
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: that I think Mark and I and also Mets fans

1140
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: and even scouts in general, seem to have gone back

1141
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: and forth on a number of times over the last

1142
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: few years. What about Jet or what about Ronnie's recent performances?

1143
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: Had those two ranked in that order?

1144
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 4: Yeah? Mauricio is a really tough player to evaluate right now.

1145
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 4: Scouts love the rock power. You know, he does have

1146
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 4: a pretty good game power. I think there's a growing

1147
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 4: sentiment that he might the hitting might not hitting just

1148
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 4: doesn't come natural to him. Then he's more of an

1149
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 4: ambush hitter. He's probably not a short stop. So you

1150
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 4: begin to kind of detect these cracks in the armor

1151
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 4: where he's a good prospect but no longer like he's

1152
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 4: no longer top one hundred for us because he's carrying

1153
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 4: a two ninety on base percentage over the past two seasons.

1154
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 4: So it's really tough to find like star MLB players

1155
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: who had an OVP that low for that long. Yeah,

1156
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 4: and then Jet Williams, he's a player the Mets are

1157
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 4: really high on, you know, like like other teams, I

1158
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 4: think they've been on him since the showcase last year.

1159
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 4: You know, he's he's a five to two player, you know,

1160
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: power potentially more average than above. But he plays with

1161
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 4: a chip on his shoulder. I think I think there's

1162
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 4: a lot of confidence that he's going to hit and

1163
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 4: play up the middle.

1164
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: Jet definitely is the chip on his shoulder. Accidentally an

1165
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: entire Randela. Yet today he signed his Mets steel and

1166
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: he's he's he's a confident young man. But he's definitely

1167
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: seems very motivated, definitely in that tiny package.

1168
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: And I feel like I've heard from everybody like they

1169
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: he has almost like I don't want to say, like

1170
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: the it factor, but he has something that everybody in

1171
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: baseball seems to fall in love with or like he's

1172
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: a good player, but he has almost these intangibles that

1173
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 2: you can't really show on the field that just makes

1174
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 2: you have even more confidence in this guy.

1175
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like other players kind of glavitate toward him. Yeah.

1176
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 2: And then we saw that there's the other two Mets

1177
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: draft picks. I mean we mentioned Blade earlier coming in

1178
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 2: at nine. Then you have Nick mor Robido and Jacob

1179
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: Brimer as well in the top thirty. Give us a

1180
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: little bit on those guys, because once you start to

1181
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: get out of the first two rounds, Mets fans, just

1182
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 2: baseball fans in general, I think, probably start to get

1183
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: a little bit less interested in the prospects just because

1184
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: of the name recognition. But these guys are coming right

1185
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: into the system in the top thirty according to you

1186
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 2: guys over at Baseball America. So filling the uh, filling

1187
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: the listeners at home with what you got on them.

1188
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: Well, it's easier in the Mets system because it is

1189
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 4: shallower than some system, so it's easier to crack but

1190
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 4: that's not to say they're not high on these players.

1191
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 4: You know, Moribido is a is a DC kid. He's

1192
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 4: an athletic, compact, athletic right handed hitter who they have

1193
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 4: really good run times on. So they really like the

1194
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 4: athlete and run his ability to stick in center field.

1195
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 4: There's some lower half clean up that needs to be

1196
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 4: completed with his swing, but they're they're confident that they

1197
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 4: have a like Williams. They have like a hit, like

1198
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 4: a high school hitter who hits and can stay up

1199
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 4: the middle. So that's what they're excited about there. Rymer

1200
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 4: is going to move to third base. He's a little

1201
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 4: more divisive among scouts. I think the Mets were probably

1202
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 4: higher than most teams on him. But you know, he's

1203
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 4: a guy who's got some some good hitting traits. He

1204
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 4: tested really well in like a team workout, So they're

1205
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 4: they're confident in the data they generated in their scouting looks.

1206
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: Just kind of a question about these kinds of rankings

1207
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 3: and evaluations in general. Talked about the Mets like nearing

1208
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 3: the top ten of all farm systems in baseball. Then

1209
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: moments later we talked about how shallow the system is

1210
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: and how these new drafticks are, but like basically infiltrate

1211
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: the top fifteen list, where in your guys rankings of

1212
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 3: Baseball America, does more importance lie on these potential impact

1213
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 3: Major leaguers that are close to the league versus these

1214
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: types of either high upside lower level guys who seem

1215
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: to have higher ceilings, or even just generally organizational depth,

1216
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: because it seems like this Mets farm system is unique

1217
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 3: in terms of the rest of the league, and it's

1218
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: that just seems like it'd be like a very strange

1219
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 3: challenge to rank. Yeah, we.

1220
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 4: Our philosophy is to favor star power and upside, you know.

1221
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 4: So therefore a system led by Francisco Alvarez and Brett

1222
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 4: Baby and Kevin Parratta is going it is going to

1223
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 4: factor pretty highly when we put these these talent rankings together.

1224
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 4: You know, depth matters, of course, but we have found that,

1225
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: you know, in our view, the star power is what

1226
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 4: really drives postseason success.

1227
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 3: Definitely.

1228
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: I've you know, taken a look at the list now

1229
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: and there's a bunch of different names on there that

1230
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: maybe we haven't seen the past of some guys who

1231
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 2: would you say, outside of like the big name top

1232
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 2: ten prospects. Is your favorite on this Mets list right now?

1233
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 4: Well, Nick Zack was one of those guys. But the other,

1234
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 4: the other Helium guy is is a Dominican Summer League

1235
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 4: shortstop named Jesus Bayez. He's got some good hitting traits.

1236
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 4: He's got some good power production in the DSL. The

1237
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 4: batting average is backed up, but there is some confidence

1238
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 4: that he will hit and potentially fulfill like a power

1239
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 4: hitting third basement type of profile. He's one on keep

1240
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 4: an eye on. He's got a chance to move up

1241
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 4: this list pretty dramatically, especially if heple play as well

1242
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 4: in Low A for the FCO next year.

1243
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: Nice and we were the marks by the pitchers a

1244
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: little while ago, and sack Swack was the guy who

1245
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: had the great results this year with the helium and

1246
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 3: that he's gone. But anyone else from that list who

1247
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: you've seen anything major from this year where you think

1248
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 3: you can point to a guy and say he's going

1249
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: to be a starter in the future. Between Hamil Budo,

1250
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: Diaz a ten Coo Ziegler, is there another guy from

1251
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 3: that list I'm forgetting did well, but he has a well, yeah,

1252
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 3: I guess it is to to a and you can

1253
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 3: inclue him in this.

1254
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a tough one. It is kind of a

1255
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 4: weak point in the system now because we have the

1256
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 4: top seven prospects or position players. There's a lot to

1257
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 4: be encouraged with Ziegler based on what he's shown in

1258
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 4: terms of bad missing ability. But you know, he's he's

1259
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 4: so young and so far away and still still probably

1260
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 4: too wild to feel super confident. But he's probably the

1261
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 4: name here. Like as you go down the list, you know,

1262
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 4: Louis Rodrigan is the left hander had Tommy John surgery.

1263
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 4: Jordani Ventura, the twenty one year old right hander is

1264
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 4: coming back from TJ, and he's looked really good. I

1265
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 4: guess I would put him as another helium guy to

1266
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 4: kind of keep an eye on. He's got a wide

1267
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 4: repertoire and he's kind of building some success at low way.

1268
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 4: So it doesn't exactly answer your question, but he's another

1269
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: name I would bring.

1270
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: No I know with his Mets farm system in particular,

1271
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: Like pitching is definitely not one of the strengths, you know. Like,

1272
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: like you said, the first seven guys in this are

1273
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: all hitters, and those are probably the seven names that

1274
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: all the Mets fans do know in the system. So

1275
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 2: trying to find these spots where the pitchers maybe could

1276
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: be guys that we could look forward to is is

1277
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 2: definitely interesting. I know one guy that I had my

1278
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: eye was Junior Santos who's now up in Brooklyn, and

1279
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 2: he has a big arm. I'm correct, right, I think

1280
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: he's a big guy. Yeah, so I was I was

1281
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: doing what your thoughts on were, Junior Santos. I know,

1282
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: like again, with all these guys that are so young

1283
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 2: lower down in the system, it's a little bit tough.

1284
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: You know, there's if their ceilings were higher, they'd be

1285
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 2: higher in the rankings. But what's what's the like about

1286
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: Junior Santo's outside of like the big major arm or

1287
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 2: is that kind of the thing?

1288
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a selling point. I mean he throws a

1289
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 4: lot of strikes for a picture of that tall, which

1290
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 4: is good to see. It doesn't seem like he has

1291
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 4: the separator, you know, second pitch to go with the

1292
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 4: arm strength at this time, so there's not a ton

1293
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 4: of confidence that he's going to hold a rotation spot,

1294
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 4: but he's he would be a name of interest for sure.

1295
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 3: One a guy who also has got recently from the

1296
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 3: triple A Jose Bud that we've talked about on this

1297
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 3: show a lot. I believe you mentioned him last year.

1298
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: Is he someone who, based on the stuff he has

1299
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 3: in his repertoire, do you think could be in the

1300
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 3: mix for even possibly a relief spot this year as

1301
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 3: the Mets get closer to you know, crunch time of

1302
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 3: the season.

1303
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 4: He would be a candidate. You know, he's on the

1304
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 4: forty man roster. I think the strike against him is

1305
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 4: limited triple A time and just no more September call

1306
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 4: ups in the sense that there used to be. He'd

1307
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 4: be somebody who might compete for both the spot next

1308
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 4: year or a spot start or two. It sounds like,

1309
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 4: you know, as a fastball change up right hand or

1310
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 4: you know, your command and your change up have to

1311
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 4: be outstanding to be a major league starter, and he's

1312
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 4: he's good, it's like it's a six change up for sure.

1313
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 4: It might not be quite at that level where you're

1314
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 4: confident he's a part of the rotation.

1315
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 3: Is the fastball more like a four or five or

1316
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: is it even worse than that?

1317
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 4: I think it's I think you're great as a as

1318
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 4: a fifty Yeah.

1319
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: I'd like to hear that, because Buddo is a guy

1320
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 2: that we've been talking about ever since we've done the

1321
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 2: prospect stuff. We've just been digging for names because everybody

1322
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: knows again the guys at the top, so we've been

1323
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: digging from last year for some names.

1324
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: Buddo is one of the guys.

1325
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 2: But one of the other guys, especially James, was very

1326
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: hip too early, and it might have been because you know,

1327
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: reading a lot of your guys stuff as well, is

1328
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 2: Alex Ramirez. You guys have had number four right now

1329
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: and it seems like top one hundreds across baseball. Alex

1330
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 2: Ramirez has been scattered all over the place. So what

1331
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: are your guys thoughts on Alex Ramirez is a prospect

1332
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: for the Mets.

1333
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you talk about the guy. He's got

1334
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 4: the tools, he's got the look, he now, he has

1335
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 4: the performance. You know, I'm surpri how well he's hit.

1336
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 4: You especially hit for average. I think that was supposed

1337
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 4: to be leak part of his game. But you know,

1338
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 4: he came out very hot at low way and has

1339
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 4: managed to hold his own at at Hi at a

1340
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 4: very young age. So he's definitely an up arrow guy

1341
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 4: who you know, we've moved into our top one hundred

1342
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 4: around mid season June July, so he's he's a guy

1343
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 4: with some melium, you know, those the upper levels will

1344
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 4: determine how much he actually hits, but in terms of tools,

1345
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 4: you might not find a toolsier overall player in the system.

1346
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 3: Love to hear that. Love to hear that. I think

1347
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 3: of all the tools he players that might's.

1348
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 2: Have had in the past, and you know, some have

1349
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: been hit or missed for Nando Martinez, but a guy

1350
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: like Alex Ramirez is super encouraging to see that as

1351
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: one of the younger players at every level, he has

1352
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: performed seemingly above his age, which is nice.

1353
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 3: It's also encouraging because I feel like a lot of

1354
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 3: these Mets development successes over the last half of a decade,

1355
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 3: like mostly have been draft picks. I know we've had

1356
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: a few. Rizario and him and as Are both seemed

1357
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 3: to have been hits out in Cleveland now since the

1358
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 3: Lindor trade and Alvarez is very close, it seems like

1359
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 3: the Mets have really been able been finding great ways

1360
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 3: to get their draft picks of the majors, but a

1361
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: little bit less with international players. So it's nice to

1362
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 3: see Ramirez even just get the helium to be a

1363
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 3: top hundred guy.

1364
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I hit a run from like twenty

1365
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 4: twelve to twenty eighteen where on Dvsario you mentioned Ronnie Mauricio,

1366
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 4: Francisco Elverrez, like all these guys who are in contention

1367
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 4: to be number one in the system and Andre Simenez

1368
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 4: another one that you mentioned. So they've had a pretty

1369
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 4: good run. You know, we'll see if they can keep

1370
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 4: it up, but those it was a really good run

1371
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 4: for guys who shopped on the top of the system.

1372
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: Definitely want to bring up Mark Vento's as well, because

1373
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: I think a little bit less now with Darreon Roff

1374
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 2: now coming into the fold and being able to crush

1375
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 2: the left hand and pitching, it doesn't seem there's as

1376
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: big of a hole, but there's still our September call ups.

1377
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: And Mark Vento's is a guy who's been at Triple A,

1378
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 2: I think for the entire season pretty much and has

1379
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: had some relative success. Do you think Viento's going to

1380
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 2: be a guy that, you know, what can we expect

1381
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: from him when he comes up?

1382
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 4: Honestly, he's another tough one to evaluate because the power

1383
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 4: is real he's proving his discipline has been good. Overall.

1384
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 4: At Triple A. There's more strikeouts than you typically see

1385
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 4: with like a top top prospect at that level, but

1386
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 4: the power is real. The position is probably more first base.

1387
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 4: I think those sorts of positional limitations make it more

1388
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 4: challenging to rank a player, at least for us on

1389
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 4: the top one hundred. But he's a tough one, you know,

1390
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 4: because you have the power and the strikeouts in such abundance,

1391
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 4: you know, it takes sometimes it takes these guys a

1392
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 4: little bit longer to kind of find their way in

1393
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 4: the major leagues. So I don't know if I expect

1394
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 4: like impact right away in an everyday type of role.

1395
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 3: When you see a guy like that who has like

1396
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: shown prodigious power at every level of the minders, but

1397
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 3: still can't seem to one put the bat in the

1398
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 3: ball very consistently or even lift the ball very consistently.

1399
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: We've talked a little bit about his ground ball ring.

1400
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 3: It's still hanging out about fifty percent for most of

1401
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 3: the year. Where do you see even like a long

1402
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 3: term ceiling for a player like that.

1403
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 4: You know, on the high end, you know, somebody like

1404
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 4: the CJ. Cron might might be in play on the

1405
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 4: low end, like Ronaldo Nunez, somebody like that, Michael Michael Franco,

1406
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 4: guys like that. Okay, you know, it all depends if

1407
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 4: if he makes the most of his of his balls

1408
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 4: and play, then you know.

1409
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 3: Does grand ball rate like the conspt of the dead

1410
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 3: way a player lifts the ball? Is that something that

1411
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: can not maybe I can. Is that something that is

1412
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 3: like actively trying to be developed out of guys or

1413
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 3: does that wind up just coming maybe at the expense

1414
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 3: of other aspects of a players approach? Like is that

1415
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 3: a key area of development this late in the game,

1416
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 3: upper miners, major leagues?

1417
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. I think you know, you're trying

1418
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 4: to optimize the you know, the exit velocity in the

1419
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 4: launch angle continually until players have league success. And we've

1420
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 4: seen a number of players achieve that. You know, it

1421
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 4: remains me seeing whether some of these guys will, But

1422
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it's that development is ongoing.

1423
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: I feel like the last guy probably want to talk

1424
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 2: about here in this system, because we haven't touched too

1425
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: much on It's gonna be Brett Bady, who just got

1426
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: the promotion of Triple A along with Jose Budo, somebody

1427
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: who me and James of the more and more I

1428
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: watch with this guy, I mean, I fall in love

1429
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: with his game. He seems like he's a really, really

1430
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 2: good hitter, seems like he's pretty patient at the plate,

1431
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: and I feel like the you know, scouting report when

1432
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: he first came to the Mets was that he probably

1433
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 2: wasn't going to stick at third, or that he wasn't

1434
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: athletic enough to maybe play that position. But it seems

1435
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 2: like as the years have gone on, as he's played

1436
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: more games, he's getting more and more comfortable there, so

1437
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: much so that I mean they've even thought about putting

1438
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 2: him the corner outfield because he's such a good athlete.

1439
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 2: So I'm interested to see what you think about Brett

1440
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 2: Baty and you know what you think the ceiling could

1441
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 2: be on that guy.

1442
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a really like you said, he's a good

1443
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 4: hitter with power, and he's starting to hit the ball

1444
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 4: in the air more often, you know, to speak to

1445
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 4: James's last point and starting to see the results of that,

1446
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 4: I expect him to be probably like a a solid

1447
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 4: average to maybe above major league player. I think I

1448
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 4: think it's fair to say rival scouts are less sold

1449
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 4: on him at third base, but as you mentioned, left

1450
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 4: field is also a possibility, so that might be where

1451
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 4: we see Baty the most in his early major league career,

1452
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 4: but overall like him quite a bit.

1453
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brett Bay actually this year in Double A had

1454
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 3: a higher wrc plus than Francisco Alvarez while he was.

1455
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 4: At the level.

1456
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1457
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 3: I mean, like, hey, people, he's not getting enough credit

1458
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 3: for having like one of the most impressive Double A

1459
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 3: seasons that from player twenty two or younger. I can

1460
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 3: remember that recently.

1461
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: Honestly, wasn't he one of the guys too at the

1462
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 2: Futures game that they said they loved watching him take

1463
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 2: VP along with Albarez that they were like, he's super

1464
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: impressive to watch it. I mean, we saw him at

1465
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: the Fall League and we're like, oh, his dude's a

1466
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 2: really good ballplayer.

1467
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 3: In terms of all just on fangrass right now, In

1468
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 3: terms of all players who took at least one hundred

1469
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 3: play the appearance Double A this year, Brett Baby has

1470
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 3: the fourth highest wsc plus, the third highest of players

1471
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 3: twenty two and younger, and the only two betther are

1472
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 3: Calton Kowser and Gunder Henderson who standouts from the Baltimore system.

1473
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 3: That's just the guy that's pretty unbelievable. He has done

1474
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 3: that this year in Cowser.

1475
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 4: That's still a pretty small sample, isn't it.

1476
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just over a hundred hundred forty play appearance

1477
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 3: as of now. Baby has four hundred played appearance this

1478
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 3: year to Double A the most. I think it's the

1479
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 3: most believed.

1480
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 2: What would you say the biggest difference is between the

1481
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: Double A and Triple A jump, because I know we

1482
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 2: talked about it earlier. You said that the pitchers at

1483
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: Triple A nibble a little bit more, But in general,

1484
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: I think there's just kind of been like almost a

1485
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 2: little bit of a changing in that you look at

1486
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: a lot of these Triple A teams now and they're

1487
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: just filled with thirty five to forty year old guys

1488
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 2: that are just sticking around and are basically depth pieces

1489
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 2: where Double as where all the great prospects are. So

1490
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 2: what value do you put on those two levels compared

1491
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 2: to each other?

1492
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the players will tell you that it's

1493
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 4: it's the pitching approach is a lot different, you know,

1494
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 4: pitching backwards, landing, off speed pitches, landing breaking pitches for strikes.

1495
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 4: I think that goes up, but the pure velocity and

1496
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 4: power probably does not go up that much. And if

1497
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 4: you play in the PCL, the field conditions are unique.

1498
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 4: You have altitude, you have the really really hard surfaces

1499
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 4: from the desert conditions. So that doesn't pertain to the

1500
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 4: Mets anymore since it out of Vegas.

1501
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, it was a weird couple of years.

1502
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Vegas fifty ones, I mean the Mets. The

1503
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 2: Triple A for the Mets have been all over the place.

1504
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 2: It seems like they found a nice little home in Syracuse,

1505
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: although I don't know what it's like to hit up

1506
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 2: in Syracuse all year either.

1507
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 3: In April and Syracuse. Must be must be a bear,

1508
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 3: must be horrible, must be freezing.

1509
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the That's the part of the world I

1510
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 4: grew up in. So yes, I think it is fact

1511
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 4: horrible weatherwise.

1512
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 2: James, you have a you have any final questions here

1513
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 2: for Matt before we uh, you know, let them shout

1514
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 2: out Baseball America and tell us all about that.

1515
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 3: I like that we touched on the double A Triple

1516
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 3: A differences because something I can try to I'm home

1517
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 3: for a few months, but col, we just get like

1518
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 3: five minutes talk about the general top one hundred Baseball

1519
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 3: America right now. M Can I ask about Jackson Jorio

1520
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 3: because he has come out of nowhere in your guys

1521
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 3: list to be like back end of the d I

1522
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 3: think he was like in the seventies in the offseason.

1523
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 3: Now he's up to two. So you can talk about

1524
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 3: what what drove that ranking, what you see in Shurio

1525
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 3: as a prospect. Just to bring this to prospects and

1526
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 3: Majorague baseball for of our listeners for a few minutes.

1527
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, the way this is playing out like an eighteen

1528
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 4: year old dominating Low Way going to Hiya with no adjustment,

1529
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 4: you know, period, it's playing out like Wander Franco. It's

1530
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 4: playing out like Latimerica Rivero junior big names. And that's

1531
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 4: not the only reason. You know, we were hearing from

1532
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 4: scouts who were putting seven's overall Ontario last year in

1533
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 4: the DSL, and he's gone out. He dominated extended spring

1534
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 4: for the Brewers, didn't miss a beat I Lowa or

1535
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 4: high A. We just think like ultimately this is where

1536
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 4: things are headed. So we're just gonna get ahead of

1537
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 4: the curve.

1538
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: We saw that, you know, the Nationals made a couple

1539
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 2: of big moves for some big prospects in Abrams, Woods, Hassle,

1540
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: all guys that are Hassled and Abrams I believe we're

1541
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 2: in the top twenty five, and then woods is I

1542
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: believe he's in the top fifty at least or top forty.

1543
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 3: Even.

1544
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: What do you think about just that trade package back

1545
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 2: in general for a guy like Juan Soto, because I

1546
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 2: don't think anyone who's want is what twenty three years old,

1547
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 2: that's like some of these top prospects age right now

1548
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 2: on this list, and he's an MVP candidate every year,

1549
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 2: So we think about that package back. I mean, at

1550
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,479
Speaker 2: least it's topical now with them being.

1551
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 3: Nationals players as well, we might have to see them

1552
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 3: in a few years.

1553
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was as good a return as

1554
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 4: could be expected for a player of sodo stature. I think, like,

1555
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 4: let's assume that the you know, pitchers are a big

1556
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 4: shrug generally, but let's assume the four position players pan out.

1557
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 4: You know, that's what twenty four seasons of control plus

1558
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 4: for potentially four position regulars, Like that's I mean that's

1559
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 4: how organizations look at it, you know, potentially high value

1560
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 4: two dozen seasons when you're talking about you know, James

1561
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 4: Wood and Robert Assle and c. J. Abrams and all

1562
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 4: this guy I should be remembering right now, but I'm not.

1563
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 4: And in terms of upside, you know, it was.

1564
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 3: A salt Yarlin Susanna, Yeah, Carlon Susana, Yeah.

1565
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Abrams. But in terms of upside, like this could

1566
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,439
Speaker 4: be viewed as there's there is a universe in which

1567
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 4: this could be viewed as the Susannah and would trade,

1568
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 4: you know, Abrams and Hassle trade.

1569
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that.

1570
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 3: That's interesting when when a player like Abrams, who's so

1571
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 3: highly talented, so highly regarded as such great success in

1572
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: my leagues, comes to the majors and has such sustained

1573
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 3: struggles as he has, what where? How how do you

1574
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 3: guys view that part of his evaluation? What what kind

1575
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 3: of like how important does that become?

1576
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 4: Yeah? It definitely, it definitely does weigh a player down

1577
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 4: to some degree. With Abrams is a trickier evaluation because

1578
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 4: he's had such interruptions to his development time, you know,

1579
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 4: twenty twenty gone, twenty twenty one, missed half of the

1580
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 4: year with an injury. This year, he's been up and down.

1581
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 4: I think from what we understand, like some some physical

1582
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 4: growth and maturation are required brave rooms to reach his ceiling.

1583
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 4: But definitely that's sort of plus shortstop on both sides

1584
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 4: of the ball is definitely in play as an outcome.

1585
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 4: So I would just, you know, look forward to some

1586
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 4: more growth in those in those areas.

1587
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 2: And then I feel like I gotta ask, since we'll

1588
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 2: wrap up the top one hundred here, who is your

1589
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 2: favorite guy that sorts the back end of the top

1590
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 2: one hundred that you think could have maybe the most

1591
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 2: healium in the next ranking for you guys.

1592
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 4: Oh, that's a good one.

1593
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 2: I know.

1594
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 3: I like looking through this list the top one hundred

1595
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 3: is there's two guys I think just from playing in

1596
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 3: a Dynasty League with Matt, but like, I don't want

1597
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 3: to hear what he says.

1598
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, whenever somebody says that's a good question, I

1599
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 4: made you stump them. So I'm gonna go ahead and

1600
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 4: look at the back of our list.

1601
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: No, I know, I know one guy in particular that

1602
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 2: I love is Emmanuel Rodriguez with the Twins. But it's

1603
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: the same thing that you get with a lot of

1604
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: these younger guys, where it's just like they're at such

1605
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: a low level that it's hard to really project how

1606
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 2: it's going to go against the better competition. But that

1607
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: dude's absolutely raking.

1608
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 4: I love them the in the there's a kind of

1609
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 4: a growing concern with the quality of pitching and low way,

1610
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 4: like what to make of those offensive results, because what

1611
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 4: we're hearing pretty consistently is that the quality of low

1612
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 4: A pitching has never been worse. You know, it's never

1613
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 4: been younger, and it's never been worse in terms of

1614
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 4: interesting execution and strike throwing. I'm looking the back of

1615
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 4: our list now, James, you go ahead. Who are you

1616
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 4: your sleepers?

1617
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 3: I mean the guy I've loved this year, two guys,

1618
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 3: particularly one it was Manuel Driguez, but I thought he's

1619
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 3: a low hang fruit. I'm starting to really love Jackson Merrill.

1620
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 3: He just does so many things well. And you see

1621
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 3: those well rounded players at that age we're able to

1622
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 3: just put together incredible results with their age combined against

1623
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 3: their level, and you see the system like the Padres

1624
01:07:58,360 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 3: who's found ways to develop these up the middle of

1625
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 3: eyes really successfully. And I give some credit to that.

1626
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 3: The other guy Hope fell in love with from like

1627
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 3: the middle of May, I guess even the late late

1628
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 3: April with Saidan Rafaela of the Red Sox. Just an

1629
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 3: absolute freak atholete. I think he's been at paw Tucket

1630
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 3: most of the year, but he can just he's a

1631
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 3: real mover. He just you see that kind of athletic

1632
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 3: profile and a baseball player who can a guy who

1633
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 3: can hit a little bit, and you're just like you

1634
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 3: just kind of freak out the potential.

1635
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, as I scan the back of this list, I'm

1636
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 4: on board with with Merrill. I think if not for

1637
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 4: the injuries that he's had this year, he's missed most

1638
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 4: of the year, I think we would be talking about

1639
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 4: him potentially higher. I think I think he's that potentially

1640
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 4: that good. Vaughan Grisom of the Braves also sticks out,

1641
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 4: kind of a natural hitter, questions about power and position.

1642
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 4: But and Bives have such a good track record with

1643
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 4: just developing major league regulars, So those would be my

1644
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 4: two guys.

1645
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 2: Awesome, all right, well, we want to give you a

1646
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 2: chance to go ahead and shout out everything you guys

1647
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 2: do over there at baseball America. Let everybody know what's

1648
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 2: going on, the top thirty dropping and all that. So

1649
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: go ahead, here's your plug.

1650
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 4: Yes, our final in season top thirty prospects for every

1651
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 4: organization are available this week, certainly by the time you're

1652
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 4: hearing this, So we've updated for the final time all year,

1653
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 4: every farm system integrated draft picks. Put in the helium guys,

1654
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 4: and move guys accordingly, at least by our estimation.

1655
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 3: All right, great, Matt, thank you again for coming on

1656
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 3: with us second time. So now we got to do

1657
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 3: this again next year, first week, second week of August,

1658
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 3: just like we did the last two years. So thanks again. Everyone,

1659
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 3: go out there, get subscriptions to Baseball America, keep track

1660
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 3: of these prospects that I was telling you about. And Matt,

1661
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 3: we got to get you up here in New York

1662
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 3: for a game at some point too.

1663
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, surely maybe maybe October matic one, Yeah, maybe October.

1664
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 3: All right, thanks again, man, we'll appreciate it.

1665
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 4: Thanks guys.

1666
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 2: Always fun talk with Matt, always fun. The dude's got

1667
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 2: a lot of knowledge. And weirdly enough, because we technically

1668
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 2: recorded like that that episode a little bit earlier than

1669
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 2: we recorded this one, he hit the nail on the

1670
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 2: head with von Grissom because he just got called up

1671
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 2: by the Braves.

1672
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty amazing call now that they talking about it,

1673
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 3: like next not really next impact player, but the guy

1674
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 3: to keep an eye on gets called up twenty four

1675
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 3: hours later, even if.

1676
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's go ahead and preview this Philly series

1677
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 2: here because this is a big one. It's it's it's big.

1678
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 2: I don't think maybe that enough Mets fans are considering

1679
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 2: how big this serie is. While the Phillies are ten

1680
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: games back, they have a chance to make up some

1681
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 2: ground here and the Mets have a chance to really

1682
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 2: separate themselves again, which they did against the Atlanta Braves.

1683
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 2: Keep playing good baseball, I don't think the Mets will

1684
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: have any problem. But that being said, this Phillies team

1685
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 2: is playing significantly better since they fired Joe Girardi. They

1686
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 2: do have better pitching, especially with Nosener Gardald, though we

1687
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 2: won't see him.

1688
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 3: I believe they're forty and nineteen if I remember correctly,

1689
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 3: since they fired Joe Girardi.

1690
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 2: It's almost like it's almost like using numbers and stats

1691
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: and being smarter makes you a better team. I don't

1692
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 2: know about you, James how do you feel about that?

1693
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, not being a hard though, seems like it's really

1694
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 3: good for your baseball team. But yeah, they have been

1695
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 3: playing good baseball. I very famously picked them to win

1696
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 3: this division preseason, which is hilarious, even though they have

1697
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 3: The Phillies are much closer to the Braves than the

1698
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 3: Braves are to the Mets right now.

1699
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 2: That's very true.

1700
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 3: This is a team that's playing wells is a team

1701
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 3: that has a pretty interesting and I think roster that

1702
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 3: could be a little bit troublesome if you got into

1703
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 3: a situation in October. Also, we have an idea of

1704
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 3: the Phillies in our head right now. We pummeled them

1705
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 3: through April and May annihilated this team. Kind of set

1706
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 3: the Mets on this run that would kind of, you know,

1707
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 3: get their season going on the right track, kind of

1708
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 3: got them momentum, kind of got them hot. We swept

1709
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 3: them May twenty seven to twenty eight, and twenty ninth.

1710
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 3: Their record was twenty one to twenty seven at the time.

1711
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 3: Since that moment, the Phillies are let me just pull

1712
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 3: it up.

1713
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 2: I think that's the forty and nineteen since then, Oh really,

1714
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 2: forty nineteen sent because if there's sixty one and forty

1715
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 2: eight right now, so I think it actually might have

1716
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 2: been the forty and nineteen right there.

1717
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 3: That's hilarious. Yeah, I guess it is. So it's basically

1718
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 3: since they saw the Mets. So when you play teams

1719
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 3: not the Mets, it's very easy stack of victories. However,

1720
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 3: the Mets are coming back to town. But this team

1721
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 3: has found a couple of semi decent bullpen pieces, which

1722
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 3: is a change of tone from the Phillies that we've known,

1723
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 3: either earlier this year or in the past. Mostly Connor Brogden,

1724
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 3: who I shotowed out earlier this season. He has very

1725
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 3: good stuff, good fastball. He's pitching very well for them.

1726
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 3: They just trade for David Robertson, as most Mets fans know.

1727
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 3: Also Andrew Bollatti, a crazy person who pitchesn't relief for them,

1728
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 3: someone I mentioned very briefly, I think either in our

1729
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 3: preseason or a spring training episode, someone I talk to

1730
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 3: mcnoise in their pen or didn't really have a roster spot.

1731
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 3: Guys has good stuff. He like crushes red bulls and

1732
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:32,839
Speaker 3: unsent sprints onto the mount.

1733
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 2: Which I know nothing about. Andrew Bilotti. So you're filling

1734
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 2: me in on this information. Now, I was going to

1735
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: bring up Sir Anthony, who's actually a good closer for them,

1736
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 2: which is something they're not used to. They also did

1737
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 2: just cut Jerry's Familia, so they're even more enemies now.

1738
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 2: They got rid of one of the former favorite Mets.

1739
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 3: And Alvarado, who still strikes the world out but also

1740
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 3: just can't really throw strikes. I don't remember. He's been

1741
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 3: going up and down this year. I don't even know

1742
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 3: if he's on the team.

1743
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,560
Speaker 2: Just give me, give me brad Hand. Someone needs to

1744
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 2: get to brad Hand because the fact that he has.

1745
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 3: Not mentioning brad Hand's good stats because I hate him.

1746
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 2: The fake two point two with a one two whip

1747
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 2: with a one two Whippies three four, Like, ah, brad Hand,

1748
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 2: it's it's coming, It's coming soon. I hope it's the

1749
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 2: Mets we got. We have some lefty killers now, Darren

1750
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: r I would love to see Darren Ruff getting that

1751
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 2: bad against brad Hand. I would be smiling year to year.

1752
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 3: Same with Francisco Indoor and Peter Lonzo and Starling Marte.

1753
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, also, this Phillies lineup is packed with power

1754
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 3: even without Bryce Harper. I famously told Mark the day

1755
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 3: that Bryce Harper broke his thumb that it wouldn't really

1756
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 3: affect this Phillies team that much and they would still

1757
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 3: be in the thick of until the end. And Mark said,

1758
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 3: you're crazy. Barber is gonna kill them. They're dead.

1759
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 2: I do think though, that your statement was like you

1760
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 2: you were right, but I don't think you were right.

1761
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 3: I think I was right in the fact that just

1762
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 3: in everyday DH, even though if you're one of the

1763
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 3: best hitters in baseball, won't affect your bottom line a

1764
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 3: ton a ton of ton Yeah, and it has. He's

1765
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 3: gonna come back. He's gonna make them better. Of course,

1766
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 3: Brice Harp makes them better team. But I was just

1767
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 3: saying the way that the Phillies were playing at time,

1768
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 3: hanging out near five hundred, there were other parts of

1769
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 3: the team I feel like. I felt. I just felt

1770
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 3: like the hitters were gonna be able to pick him up.

1771
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 3: It was the pitching in the bullpen need to step

1772
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 3: up for them to actually get hot, and that's happened.

1773
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 3: Also real Muto has gotten really hot. We talked about

1774
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 3: schwarbur before. He is hitting the crap out of the ball.

1775
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 3: Alec Bohm has a batting average near three hundred, which

1776
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 3: is making the old Heads look alive, even though he's

1777
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 3: lost all his power and draws no walks.

1778
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 2: So I got a I got a lot of Swiss

1779
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 2: smack for talking about Alec bow and people are like, well,

1780
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 2: he's hitting three hundred, Yale, he still can't play third

1781
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 2: and the.

1782
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 3: Power, yeah, it's still still not exactly that much changing

1783
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 3: his bottom line. Geane Cigar also came back last week

1784
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 3: after missing two months on the shelf, so really great.

1785
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 3: We get to see him in time, but Gisagara misses

1786
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 3: two months and the Mets get him for every single series.

1787
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 3: How the rhythm me that one?

1788
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: I can't believe it. Jean Sigar is such a thorn

1789
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 2: in our side. That guy is just he's he's a

1790
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 2: pros pro. I would say he's definitely prosper He's the pro.

1791
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: He's probably let you guys know, I love Geene Cigar.

1792
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 2: The guy's just a freaking ball player. He knows how

1793
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: to play the game. I think the big thing to

1794
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 2: take away from this though, is that the Phillies are

1795
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 2: not nearly as bad as when we first saw them,

1796
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 2: despite not having Rice Harper. They're definitely, they're definitely a

1797
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 2: solid team. They're no longer my running joke has always

1798
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 2: been the fourth place Phillies. I'm no longer saying it

1799
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: anymore because they're clearly the third best team in this

1800
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: division right now, they're not the fourth, and I mean

1801
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 2: they're they're gonna make the playoffs. They're gonna be a

1802
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:00,799
Speaker 2: playoff team, so so as much.

1803
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 3: There's still a world where they actually do miss it

1804
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 3: kind of really only if both of the central teams

1805
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 3: get hot, the Padres stay hot, and the Braves and

1806
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 3: the Mets stay ahead of them like significantly, they could

1807
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 3: keep the Phillies out. I would love to keep it.

1808
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 3: I mean, if you give me the choice, oh, Brewers,

1809
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:15,480
Speaker 3: the Cardinals, the Phillies.

1810
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 2: Well you get three. You got three wild card teams. Now,

1811
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 2: so I think they're pretty much locked into a playoffs.

1812
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 3: But they're pretty much locked into it. But they're still

1813
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 3: worse than the Padres and the Braves, so I think

1814
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 3: they have like a five or six game cushion, and

1815
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 3: the Cardinals or the who Cardinals or Brewers, whoever winds

1816
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 3: up second that division. But still it's not impossible they

1817
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 3: blow that. I mean again I'm saying I would love

1818
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 3: for the Phillies to blow that to a team in

1819
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 3: the Central for sure.

1820
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 2: And you know how we could do that. The Mets

1821
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 2: could take care of business and smack them around this weekend,

1822
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 2: which I really do think is in the realm of possibilities.

1823
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 2: It's just this is a better Phillies team. Now, what

1824
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 2: are the pitching matchups looking like? Who's on the mound?

1825
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 3: Pitching matchups are good? Friday night, I think the Mets

1826
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 3: have a just starting advantage with Rangers Suarez against Max Scherzer. Suarez.

1827
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 3: Darling of last year second half hasn't been as good,

1828
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 3: but still isn't like bad. He's this kind of soft

1829
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 3: tossing lefty. We hope that Darren ruff as our you know,

1830
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 3: you know, lightning in a bile to neutralize him. And

1831
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 3: then Saturday there's a big one. I'm gonna be there Saturday,

1832
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:05,719
Speaker 3: and assume you're gonna be there Saturday too. Saturday and Sunday.

1833
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a friend coming in from DC area college.

1834
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 2: Buddy's coming into town.

1835
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 3: So we're gonna be at the game on Saturday Saturday.

1836
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 3: Nola verse de gram that is that's literally as good

1837
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 3: as the guys. Aaron Nola has rebounded tremendously after I

1838
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 3: predicted him to do so this year, to once again

1839
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 3: be one of the best pitchers in National League. Two

1840
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 3: point sixty ra more than a strikeout for nine just

1841
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 3: over for war right now. The guy is freaking awesome.

1842
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 3: He's probably in contention for the Cy Young. He's he's

1843
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 3: so so, so so good. And then also Zach wheelervers

1844
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,560
Speaker 3: Chris bass On Sunday, Zach Wheeler also in contention for

1845
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 3: the Cy Young, so so so so good, unbelievable pitcher.

1846
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 3: These two guys. We talk a lot about the hitting

1847
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 3: and the bullpen, but having these two guys as the

1848
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 3: horses and this rotation has been what has kind of

1849
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 3: propelled a Phillies back into this pen race.

1850
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 2: Now there is one name we have not mentioned. It's

1851
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: because he's ducking us again. It's Noah Cinderguard duck in

1852
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 2: the Mets. He's scared of him. I got a question

1853
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 2: for you, James, Noah Cinderguard one. Do the Mets do

1854
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 2: a coming Do the Mets do like a a montage

1855
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: of him?

1856
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I have a feeling that other boy, John

1857
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 3: over here, Johnny Cuts, is gonna have some funny things

1858
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 3: on the boards just to take shots of no A Cinderguard.

1859
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 3: But I feel like the Mets there's It was really

1860
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 3: just that it was a couple of comments in the

1861
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 3: offseasons why Mets fans would be against Noah Cinderguard because

1862
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 3: he has some great seasons for us. He had some

1863
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 3: of the best moments of like the twenty fifteen twenty

1864
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 3: sixteen seasons, like throwing behind Chase or Eli has a

1865
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 3: bar and Chase oddly, Yeah, the ass and the Jackpop

1866
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 3: video was totally run like because of Noah Cindergarden.

1867
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 2: The sixty feet I'm sixty feet sixty.

1868
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 3: Six inches away and he's He's awesome. I mean, I

1869
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 3: don't know, I just it's so shocking he's on this team.

1870
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 3: I even feel like he kind of poked fun at

1871
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 3: being on this team. He posted two funny videos on

1872
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 3: Twitter to night the trade deadline about like going to

1873
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 3: a team that he like once hated, the prank he

1874
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 3: played in the Philly Fanatic where he stole like the

1875
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 3: little motor car and we're probably gonna get him next

1876
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 3: weekend in Philly if it lines up.

1877
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 2: Probably. Yeah, it seems like it's there's a chance that

1878
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 2: at least lines up. Okay, so Montage we might be

1879
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 2: out on maybe, But do you think he gets booed.

1880
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 3: I don't even think there's gonna be a chance from

1881
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 3: the he's gonna announce his name is never gonna be said.

1882
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 2: No, he'll he'll get boot at something. They're gonna they're

1883
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 2: gonna find a way to get him, like a No Yinderguard.

1884
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna find a way to get highlighted.

1885
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 3: And I think he is almost excited, like he wants

1886
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 3: to get boot That's who No Cindergard is.

1887
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 2: But I don't like a like a camera on the

1888
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 2: field instead of going to a fan is probably gonna

1889
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:15,440
Speaker 2: go to No cindregards.

1890
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like I don't blame the hate on No

1891
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 3: Cinderguard because just because he said, like what you said,

1892
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 3: it was like he wanted to go to the Mets

1893
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 3: were dyfunctional because he still hadn't higher the coach or

1894
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 3: GM yet and he wanted to go to a team

1895
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 3: with structure. It's like the Angels, one of the most

1896
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 3: structured franchises in the history of baseball. That team is

1897
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 3: just a model of consistency. Year after year, all they

1898
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 3: do is signed back contracts and not develop pitching or hitting. Nothing,

1899
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,919
Speaker 3: nothing better than the Angels, such a consistent, stable, sturdy organization.

1900
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 2: Literally the last thing that the Angels would ever be

1901
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 2: called the stable right now, No, I think.

1902
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 3: It's just no cinder Guard translation. I want to live

1903
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 3: in southern California for the next couple of months before

1904
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 3: he actually have to be a free agent. So I'm

1905
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 3: sure that I can respect. You're honest about that. I

1906
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 3: respect it. I just I think it's just no Cyindergard

1907
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 3: poking fun of Mets fans can know how easy we

1908
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 3: are to get fun poked at.

1909
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, John was saying he's gonna be nice to know.

1910
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 2: He did say that the social medi question of the

1911
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: day is gonna be what's the last book you read?

1912
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 2: An on or of not Cindergards reading Club, which is

1913
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 2: it's good, that's a good that's a good fun job.

1914
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 3: That's a good fun job. But I mean, it's a big,

1915
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 3: big series to the field. It's gonna be rocking like

1916
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 3: it was last weekend. Won't be a billy, won't be

1917
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 3: a billion, won't be a hundred degrees at night like

1918
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 3: it was last weekend with eighteen percent humidity, which is

1919
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 3: the seventies. Right, Yeah, you're gonna be people can be

1920
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 3: able to wear jeans in the ballpark, and I feel

1921
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 3: like death. You can go to the game and go

1922
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: out after and not be dripping and sweat.

1923
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Speaker 2: That's incredible. I'm looking forward to that. I would I

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Speaker 2: would like some postgame BEVs after a nice win over

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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Filthies and just we got hot because of

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Speaker 2: this team. They got cold because of us. They've been

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Speaker 2: hot without us, We've been hot without them. Kill them.

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Speaker 3: I hate this team. Murder them, yeah, really, stomp on

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Speaker 3: their throats. As nice as I am to a team,

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Speaker 3: that's just my objective. Like baseball analysis, I hate these guys.

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Speaker 3: I hate these guys so much. I want to pulverize them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I want to make them feel pain.

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Speaker 2: I'm not fine.

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Speaker 3: I want to lose the estimate because Coylee Forber struck

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Speaker 3: out in every single back fifteen k's in this year.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen here you twelve k's in this years. I want

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Speaker 3: to get five at bets.

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Speaker 2: I want, yeah, exactly strike out all twelve times. That

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Speaker 2: would be great, especially because I would win in the Mets.

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Speaker 2: Would probably be winning. But I think that's a perfect

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Speaker 2: way for us to wrap up this episode of the

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Speaker 2: Mets Up Podcast, Episode one sixteen. If you, guys are

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Speaker 2: not you follow us on our social media at Mets

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Speaker 2: we're giving away Starling Morte signed baseball, So go over there,

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Speaker 2: follow us, retweet the tweet. You'll be able to have

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Speaker 2: a chance to win that. If you're listening or if

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Speaker 2: you're watching the YouTube video, check out the New York

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Speaker 2: That's what we'll wrap it up, guys. We'll see after

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Speaker 2: the Philly series. Peace out, Peace up, guys.

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Speaker 3: See you next time.

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Speaker 1: Get up, Get up, Get Up,