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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Between the Horns. We've been on

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Speaker 1: a bit of a break. But now Defar and I

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Speaker 1: in the RAMS studio connected by AT and T. We're

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Speaker 1: actually in a hotel room in Providence raw Item, Rhode Island.

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Speaker 1: To say, yeah, interesting, is the best studio I've ever

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Speaker 1: been in. Well, then we wanted to get together because

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Speaker 1: you know, we haven't gotten together in oil and wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk some balls. So happy, thanks, yes, yes to

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Speaker 1: you and everybody that's listening. Um, so the Rams are

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Speaker 1: four and seven now, and you know, it's been sort

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Speaker 1: of a trying week for a lot of different reasons.

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Speaker 1: But let's we can stick to what's been going on

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Speaker 1: we can say positively really about the forty nine to

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Speaker 1: twenty one loss to the New Orleans Saints last week,

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Speaker 1: because it the look the end of the first half,

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Speaker 1: well two minute drill, you know, Jared goes down the

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Speaker 1: well this is how it's gonna go. Yeah, too many letdowns,

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Speaker 1: I guess. I mean there's some bright spots. I mean

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Speaker 1: the play of your quarterback, of your young quarterback. He

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Speaker 1: got better from starting one to start two. So let's

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Speaker 1: hope that carries over into this Sunday. Um, Aaron Donald,

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Speaker 1: but okay, when you can get a sack that fast,

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Speaker 1: come on, man, that's incredible. What you did is you

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Speaker 1: told me to stop talking about Aaron Donald because all

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Speaker 1: we do is all it's all the same every week,

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Speaker 1: and say, you told me to stop talking about But

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen anybody make a play like that on

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Speaker 1: any quarterback on the National Football League this year. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's it's basically a two step ball gone and

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees got hit before he got to the top

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Speaker 1: of his job. Yeah, yeah, that was amazing. Got the

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Speaker 1: ball out, got your offense together in scoring territory, and

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Speaker 1: they put the ball in the box. So no, there's

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Speaker 1: some bright spots. But then you know, once the offense

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Speaker 1: started to get warm. I mean you could see what

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Speaker 1: was going to happen. I mean it was just you know,

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Speaker 1: the the the wave crested over and you were underneath

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Speaker 1: it and you just couldn't stop. It was an onslaught

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Speaker 1: of offense by by New Orleans, it was, And I

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Speaker 1: think that's you have to expect that kind of thing

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Speaker 1: that one scoring offense for a reason. Yeah, and that's

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Speaker 1: who they've been for years under Sean Payton in with

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees and I guess you know Fisher talking about

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Speaker 1: it this week and how defenses sometimes just have a

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Speaker 1: bad day, Is that your impression of it. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's there's so much that's going on when

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a complete mind screw. I don't

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Speaker 1: know any other way. Defensively, I mean, he's putting everybody

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Speaker 1: There's just so much to worry about, and if you

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Speaker 1: then your next snap, same look, except the ball goes

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Speaker 1: it's four straight quarters of just like I said, mine,

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Speaker 1: keep up and the score gets lopsided, it only gets worse. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think that well, one of the things that

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Speaker 1: Rams have not been able to generate much offensively. I mean,

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Speaker 1: The score got lopsided, he was out there longer, so eventually,

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Speaker 1: he you know, catches most of them, like a seventy

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Speaker 1: You're one block away, you're one missed read away, and

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Speaker 1: if you can it's it's a stack box eight men.

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Speaker 1: If you can just make the free hit or miss

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Speaker 1: have sold out to stop the run. So it's right there,

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Speaker 1: these plays right, especially on the road in New England,

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Speaker 1: that that's not afraid to pile on points. So if

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Speaker 1: let's just say it this way, the longer he stays

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Speaker 1: score against you, Yes, absolutely, and he's looking for every

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Speaker 1: his shoulder. He was seeing Greg Williams goes as well,

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Speaker 1: bigger than the chip on my shoulder or something like that,

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Speaker 1: and I think that, yeah, well, I mean you think

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Speaker 1: bit because we have not really gotten together since he

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Speaker 1: where you could clearly see he's not ready, he's not

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Speaker 1: can see what could be when he's ready, and then

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Speaker 1: Then first start. Then you go to New Orleans, you

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Speaker 1: take on Drew Brees, and you have a pretty good

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Speaker 1: So it's going to grow. So let's hope that he

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Speaker 1: makes a huge leap this week because you're gonna need

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Speaker 1: a successful passer. And I think we didn't see it

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Speaker 1: California is rare, and to have rain at the coliseum,

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Speaker 1: defense is pinning their ears back and they're coming. I

428
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 1: thought Andrew donald you know, did a nice job filling

429
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: in there. But back to Greg Robinson, Um, what do

430
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 1: you think it is that he has to do in

431
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 1: order to make it work? Grow up? Um, become a professional.

432
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 1: And he's young. Remember when they took him out of Auburn.

433
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a lot of there's a lot left,

434
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of room left for him to grow.

435
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: And I look, this is gonna sound bad. I'm not

436
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 1: really comparing him to a canine. But it's like when

437
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 1: I see friends of mine's, uh and they they they

438
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: they breed Rottweilers, and these dogs are so big, so fast,

439
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 1: but they're still puppies. They're huge, I mean, they're the

440
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: size of people, but they're still puppies, and they act

441
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: like puppies. And I mean, once you get past the

442
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 1: size and you realize, oh my god, he's only been

443
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 1: on this earth a couple of years. He's got a

444
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: long way to go. So I see the same sort

445
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 1: of thing in Greg. When you see him, you're like, geez, yeah,

446
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 1: that is pro size, that's what you want. I mean,

447
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 1: he looks good getting off the bus, and then you

448
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 1: watch him in game situations and he makes mistakes and

449
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: stuff that doesn't need to happen. Well, that's that's a

450
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: guy being young. That's a guy being professional. That's that's

451
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: like a kid who shields his own eyes and says,

452
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: you can't see me, I'm invisible. Well yeah, we can

453
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: see you, kid, you're in the middle of the room.

454
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: Well Greg is at left tackle, and you can't get

455
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 1: away with stuff like that anymore. They're gonna flag you

456
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 1: every single time. So it used to be funny. It's

457
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: not funny anymore. You're costing the team. Drives in first

458
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: downs and you've been coached, you've been told, I mean,

459
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 1: the whole world thinks you're a bust, so you can't

460
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 1: get away from it, right, and then it continues to happen.

461
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: So what's your only recourse. Well, you're not going to

462
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: cut him. You have to sit him down and hope

463
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: that that gets through to him. So, you know, being

464
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: in Louisiana, being back home and you know, talking to him,

465
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: he played for free because he had he gave away

466
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: so many tickets and then your whole family came to

467
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: see you sit on the bench. Ye. Man, if that

468
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: don't change it, if that don't force you to get right,

469
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: then nothing will. Yeah. Yeah, that is the ultimate there.

470
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: That was. That was kind of tough, I'm sure because

471
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean we talked to him in the locker room

472
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: during the practice week once it, you know, became clear

473
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: that Greg was gonna be back up and back at

474
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: his left tackle position. And in case that has not

475
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 1: been clear, that's that is almost certain to happen. I mean,

476
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: you can tune into the game tomorrow, but that's what's

477
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Um. But just hearing him saying you know

478
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: that was really tough to have, like almost fifty friends

479
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 1: and family members coming there to watch, and you know

480
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: you're playing back home and you're in the superdomin it's

481
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 1: a place that obviously means a lot to him, being

482
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: in Louisiana native and for him to not be out

483
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: there and to not play, I'm sure that was as

484
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: tough personally as it could probably be. And I think

485
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: you're right if it doesn't get through to you and say, hey,

486
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 1: you've got to be better, You've got to you know,

487
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to say put in more effort because

488
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: I don't think I can persted an effort thing. Well,

489
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: the only person that put him on the bench was him, right, yes, yeah,

490
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 1: you put yourself there. It's not what Jeff Fisher did

491
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: or or any coach's decision. That was a Greg Robinson choice. Yeah,

492
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: So the choice is also out there for you to

493
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: become a starter, to become what everyone thinks you can

494
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: be is a Pro Bowl caliber tackle or offensive lineman,

495
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: depending on where they want to put him. But yeah,

496
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: I mean to see that guy that size, that strength,

497
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: He's one of the strongest guys, if not be strong.

498
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: Is next to Donald one of the strongest guys the

499
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: Rams have on the football team and he's healthy. To

500
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: see him in street clothes is just what are you

501
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: doing it? Yeah? Yeah, So, I mean there's a part

502
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: that gets mad from a football perspective that you put

503
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: yourself here. But I can only imagine what it felt

504
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: like for him to have to face your teammates when

505
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 1: they're in a battle in New Orleans and it's starting

506
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: to turn south and you're sitting there in street clothes

507
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: and can't help. No, you can't. So I mean, because

508
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: you put yourself and you put yourself there, So that

509
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: stuff is gonna burn. So let's hope that burns with

510
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,239
Speaker 1: him to be a pro be more of a pro

511
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: about what he does. You know, I read an interesting

512
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: article from Alden Gonzalez. He's the NFL Nation reporter for

513
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: ESPN dot Com for the Rams, and he had talked

514
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: to offensive line coach Paul Boudreau and what he what

515
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: Boudreau was saying was that you can tell it bothers

516
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: Greg Robinson, that he is not performing up to the

517
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: standard that he believes he should be and the standard

518
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: that would befit his draft position. And he said, and

519
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,479
Speaker 1: Boudreau was saying, you know, if it did not bother him.

520
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: Then that's when the problem would come. You know, if

521
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: he were not upset that this, these issues are still happening,

522
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: these penalties are still happening. So that's why I don't

523
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: necessarily think it is an effort thing. You know, it's

524
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: I think there's a difference between saying, oh, you know,

525
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: this guy's not putting in the effort and saying this

526
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: guy's just not performing well. I don't think Greg Robinson's

527
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: committing penalties on purpose, right, I think, for the most part,

528
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: great well fishing guy in the back. I mean, I

529
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: cannot explain that. When you see the name Joey nobody,

530
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: nobody can explain that. And like I said, that's the

531
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: dog chewing up the wall, right, Yeah, he didn't mean

532
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: to do it, I guess not. Or you should go

533
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 1: better because this is your three. You know, you're you're

534
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: two and a half years in and you're the number two.

535
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: You have to go better, you have to know better.

536
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: And I think that's why you get that well. I mean,

537
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: if you take the average total snaps for any game

538
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: on Sunday, it's going to be between fifty and seventy

539
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: five something like that, maybe a little bit less on

540
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: a bad day and maybe a little bit more on

541
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: a great day when it's just really going for you.

542
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: So if you take the average snaps that Greg Robinson plays,

543
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: I would bet are great. Yeah. I mean the stuff

544
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: that he does when he's playing well, when he's knocking

545
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: people off the ball or blocking down on someone or

546
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: locking you up on a on a one on one

547
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: pass rush, I mean that's great. Yeah, you're taking away

548
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: great people. But it's the six or seven plays, the

549
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: negative plays, and they're big that every one focuses on.

550
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: And I know that seems unfair, but that's the way

551
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: it is for that position. Oh, it is because you're

552
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: on an island. And that's yeah, that's the nature of it.

553
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: We'll think about it from the opposite side, from an

554
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald perspective, you could play sixty snaps and fifty

555
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: nine of them are bonehead plays. The one player you

556
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: make changes the entire game. Yeah, and you look like

557
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: the hero. So but that's what you signed up for.

558
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: That's that's where it is. And you know, talking to

559
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: a friend of mine, an next teammate, a guy really

560
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: respect Jackie Slater, watching him go about his business playing

561
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: twenty years for one football team, Yeah, you'll never see

562
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: that in you unless you're unless it's a kicker or

563
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Now, but for one football team, But just

564
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: watching him go about his business and working on his

565
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: craft NonStop, that's all he did. That's all he talked about.

566
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: That's all he worked on was being the best right

567
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: tackle or best offensive lineman possible. And that's through film study,

568
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: that's through working out, that's through on field work, that's

569
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: through mental repetition. So there was nothing else inside of

570
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: nothing else in Jackie's life at that time besides football

571
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: and his family. Yeah. Now, if you can put Greg

572
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: Robinson in that same vein a much better athlete, stronger,

573
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: why couldn't the same sort of thing happen with him here?

574
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: It is possible. Yeah, you know, Look, you don't find

575
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: specimens like that just everywhere. Now you know that can

576
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: move like that, So the dedication has to be there

577
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: or you're gonna keep seeing this guy that keeps making mistakes. Yeah,

578
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: And I think that's one thing Jeff Fisher brought up

579
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: this week was that he's noticed in this week of preparation,

580
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: Greg Robinson doing a little bit more than he had before,

581
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: and in terms of film study and doing other different

582
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: things like that. So yeah, hopefully that is a positive development.

583
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna need Greg Robinson to be that guy. Yeah,

584
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: I wish there was a grizzled old vet and this

585
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: is I know, today's NFL and this is a young

586
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: football team. But if he had a guy to pattern

587
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: himself after that was either right next to or on

588
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: the other side, I think it would help well. Um,

589
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: the initial idea was to do just that with Jay Longing,

590
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: just didn't his body broke down. Yeah, but I mean Greg,

591
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: and I'm not in Greg's helmet, I'm not in this.

592
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: He could be doing exactly what he thinks he's being

593
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: coached to do, right and and he's just as shocked

594
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: as anybody as to why he's getting penalized or picked on.

595
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: But neither here nor there. It's happening, and you've got

596
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: to fix it right now. Either your coach has to

597
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: help you out through that, or you have to do

598
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: it on your own. Either way, what's been happening puts

599
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: you on the bench. Yeah it must change now, Yeah, yeah,

600
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: must You're right, And I think as we continue to

601
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,239
Speaker 1: go through these last five games, I mean it's going

602
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: to be telling, not just for Greg Robinson, but for

603
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know, on just the offensive line,

604
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: but all around things. And you know, Kenny Britt is

605
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: one of these guys that I think he's happen. He's

606
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: had a career year. You know, he's say he's at

607
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: seven hundred and eighty eight yards receiving vote for Kenny. Yeah, yeah,

608
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: we can say vote from the Kenny. Yeah. Right, he's

609
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: having probably the best season in his career. And you know,

610
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: talking to Rob Boris this week, offensive coordinator, he said

611
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: it's because of the way he has dedicated himself, not

612
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: just to the stuff on the field, but to the

613
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: film steady and you know, being in the classroom and

614
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: doing all these good things. And so I guess that

615
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: that's really why Kenny Britt is now on pace to

616
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: be the first Ram's wide receiver to go over a

617
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: thousand yards since Tory Holton of seven. And Tory Holt

618
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: played a long time ago. Yes, oh seven is you know,

619
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: like ten seasons. Yeah, and that's can we flip forward?

620
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, that's funny. I was just thinking about Keny

621
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: Britt one down to studio for twenty five. Don't tell

622
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: too much about but um, you know, I love the

623
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: way Bill Belichick thinks because he lives in a vacuum,

624
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: as do I for the most part, Yeah, I love it.

625
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: So most of the football viewing public, they don't see

626
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: Kenny Britt as a number one receiver, right, so when

627
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: when he says Kenny Britt for the Pro Bowl, a

628
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: lot of people they kind of chuckle or laugh, like

629
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: it's never gonna happen. To look for your offense, is right,

630
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: But like you said, he's having a tremendous season. But

631
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick will look at the Rams and say, the

632
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: Rams think Kenny Britt is a number one option. The

633
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: Rams need Kenny Britt to get deep. When he makes

634
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: big plays, that offense is successful and they score points.

635
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: I know that sounds funny because you're not scoring that

636
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: that many, but you're right an opponent's standpoint, that's how

637
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: he's going to see it and break down. So guess

638
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: who they're going to take away on Sunday. Kenny Brett, right,

639
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: should be the guy that they try to double and

640
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: take away, and they'll force the ball either too quick

641
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: or to Kendricks. Yeah, and say beat me with these guys,

642
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: and they'll remove Kenny from the the the offense, the

643
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: game plan, and it's happened before. When when teams have

644
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: made an effort to take away Kenny, they have and

645
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: the ball has to go elsewhere. So look, if Kenny

646
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: wants to be considered a Pro bowler and a special

647
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: a number one receiver, then you can't be taken away, right, Yeah.

648
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: You have to show up in big games no matter

649
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: what and what they're doing to you. So if he

650
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: really wants Pro Bowl consideration based on what they're going

651
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: to do to him on Sunday and you still get off, hey,

652
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: look you can make a pretty loud argument. I think

653
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: that would be one of the better receivers this year. Yeah.

654
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: Well the other thing is that just the way Bill

655
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: Belichick and you know his staff, and you know, I'm

656
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: gonna give a lot of credits to Ma Patricia, a

657
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for the New England Patriots on this. They

658
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: have schemed up guys their opponents this year extremely well.

659
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: And it's not like they're getting them any takeaways, but

660
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: they're still not allowing that many points because they have

661
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: developed a system in which they can scheme different teams

662
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: in different ways. Yeah, and so that's gonna be probably

663
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: the toughest thing for the Rams offense to deal with

664
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: because you don't know exactly how they're going to attack you.

665
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: In true you get there, it's gonna be they're gonna

666
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: have a wrinkle for you. Every team does, and New

667
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: England's definitely gonna have a few for you. But there's

668
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: many ways the skin of the cat on defense. And

669
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: most people think when you play defense it's up the field,

670
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: it's aggressive. Well, you can also play passive and keep

671
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: everything in front. Let's see how many plays in a

672
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: row this offense can run before they make a mistake,

673
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: and some teams can't. Some teams can't get the ball

674
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: five plays before they make a mistake and they go

675
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: three and out, give the ball back to New England

676
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: or they turn it over. But play soft, play soft,

677
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: plays off until the field shrinks, and they'll get you

678
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: in a red zone situation where it's tough for the

679
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: throw right and then they've got you. So they may

680
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: give up yards and not give up points. Yeah yeah,

681
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: and then you're you're think you're having success offensively. Man,

682
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: we can run it and when we want, we're ripping

683
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: it off at you know, five six eight yard runs.

684
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: Kenny Brett's seeing the ball or our receivers are, you know,

685
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: catching the football at a high clip. But for some

686
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: reason we're just not scoring and you look up, Well

687
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: that's what they're doing too. Yeah, that's the game plan

688
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: they had for you. So I would expect a similar

689
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: sort of defense. There'll be times when they dial it

690
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: up and get after you and see if that Jared

691
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: Goff can make the right read. But for the most part,

692
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: I believe they're gonna see if the Rams can string

693
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: together a ten twelve play drive to score. Yeah. Yeah,

694
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be tough because they really have not

695
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: had that many of those this season, right, And we

696
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: mean I've seen teams go like they just ripped New England.

697
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: They just absolutely ripped them up the field, big plays

698
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: on offense, big runs, and then all of a sudden,

699
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: within that drive is a three and ounce. I mean, move, move, move, move,

700
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: and then just stop you're halted. Yeah, stop right. Well,

701
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: the interesting thing to me about Bill Belichick is just

702
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: the way he has been able to coach against rookie quarterbacks.

703
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: He's going back to two thousand and one. He is

704
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: sixteen and five overall, eight and No. At Gillette Stadium

705
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: and eight and five on the road when facing a

706
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: rookie under center since two thousand and one, ridiculous. It's so,

707
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, Jared Goff is trying to become Yeah, first

708
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback to ever be Bill Belichick Atulette Stadium. You know,

709
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: it's tough. Look the whole Carson Wentz Jared Goff argument,

710
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: and Wentz was winning the battle early because he was

711
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: on the field first and he was winning. And then

712
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: I think he's kind of come back to earth now.

713
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: So if you want to surpass Carson Wentz in the

714
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: the public perception poll of who's the better quarterback than

715
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: beat Belichick here, Yeah, I'm sure you're absolutely him here

716
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: because nobody's ever done it. No one's ever no one

717
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: has ever done it. Don't if you come away with

718
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: a victory, no matter how you do it. Do you

719
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: think the Sporting News is not going to mention that

720
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: Sporting News? That's I'm just saying. I mean, no, you're right.

721
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: Do you think they're not going to talk about the right.

722
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you think he's not going to ask about that?

723
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the biggest story, right, you know that

724
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: Goff beats Belichick in New England, rookie quarterback beats Belichick

725
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: and then how Belichick answers the question after the game? Right,

726
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: who do they have next? I don't really got next,

727
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: but it'll just be you know, we're such and such, Yeah, Cincinnati, Yeah,

728
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: I mean, but but this game is so huge, and

729
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: I was just telling guys last night, I'm glad it's

730
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots because, let's be honest, the the fire Fisher

731
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: crowd that that voice is getting louder and louder and

732
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: louder and louder, and the momentum has swung the other

733
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: way for this coaching staff, and it's got Hall of

734
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: Fame legs pushing it. Right, h h h Yeah. So

735
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: the only person or the only group that actually has

736
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: a say in this is really Jared goff In the offense? Really,

737
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, well do you say Jared goff in the offense?

738
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: You're sort of excluding the two other units of the team.

739
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: Why why do you say Jared goff in the off

740
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: The other two units are fine? Sure, right, I agree

741
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: with you on that. Yeah, I mean, but and you're

742
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: still four and seven. So what's been holding this group back?

743
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: Office like fifteen points per game? So, right, Now, let's

744
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: just and it's last by a lot. Let's just live

745
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: in fantasy world for one second and say that you

746
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: come to New England and dominate the Patriots. I mean

747
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: from wire to wire. It's not a nail bider. It's

748
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: not a typical Rams victory, a defensive battle to where

749
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: you eke it out in the fourth quarter. I'm talking

750
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: about you beat them from snap one to the last

751
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: and Belichick runs and hops the net and shakes your hand.

752
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: That type of victory, and you continue that, you continue

753
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: that offensive growth. Then all of a sudden, you increase

754
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: your score into twenty eight to thirty points a game

755
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: to end the year. That could be, that would be something. Well,

756
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: who becomes the face of the team, Jared Goff, and

757
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: then he says, I don't want to go backwards. I

758
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: don't want to change the thing. And why would you Exactly,

759
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: the only person that has a say in all this

760
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: is him? Is that offense? Yeah? So, and I'm glad

761
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: it's the Patriots. It's this is pretty much it. We've

762
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: reached the breaking point. Yeah, and you get the best

763
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: of the league right now. See, if you're playing in

764
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: San Francisco this weekend, you win. What does that do

765
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: for you, right if you're Jeff Fisher, Yeah, not much,

766
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: but if you beat New England, that changed a lot

767
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: of it thing, It does change a lot of opinions.

768
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: I'm glad you've got them this week. And it's interesting too.

769
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we can go back years and

770
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: years and years and all really more than a decade

771
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: to talk about the Rams record, you know, and they've

772
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: not reached a five hundred record in basically a decade.

773
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: I mean the last time it was two thousand and six.

774
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: So this is where we are right now, and I think,

775
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's well and good to talk about

776
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: because you have to do this. You have to talk

777
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: about competing for NFC West Division titles. That is something

778
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: that you need to do because it's what your goal

779
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: is goal on. But yeah, if the Rams would be

780
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: able to finish five hundred this season, it's not everything,

781
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 1: and I said this last year when they were seven

782
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: and eight going into week seventeen. It's not everything. You're

783
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: not really accomplishing that part of your goal. But it's

784
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: also it's not nothing. When the team is reached five hundred,

785
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: it's something as long as it's been it's not nothing

786
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: to me. And especially if the way things have gone

787
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: right now, if they could, you know, win four of

788
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: the last five games and reached that point, that would

789
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: be something, no doubt. I remember in this I hate

790
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: to go back, but just forgive me for one second,

791
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: sort because it's relevant. Um, the year we won the

792
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl in ninety nine. Why do you hate to

793
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: go back? That's why you're here because everybody every time

794
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: I do, people, oh, are you going back to that again?

795
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: We are days No no, no nos, microphone, we stop, Okay,

796
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: thank you. But I can remember during that season when

797
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: we picked up our eighth win and Dick for Meal,

798
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 1: our head coach, looking at everyone in the eye and saying,

799
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: we're guaranteed not to have a losing season. And that

800
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: was my first, that was our first as a group,

801
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: and something in me did change that day. It really

802
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: when you get beyond that point, when you're not below

803
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: five hundred and you actually have a chance to be

804
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: a winning football team, it does change you. When they

805
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: talk about changing the culture, that's it. Yeah right there,

806
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: that moment right there changed us, and it changed me forever.

807
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: What deeper ways do you think it changed? I mean,

808
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, when you're constantly losing and

809
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: you're a losing football team, you know how bad it is. Look, yeah,

810
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: you're you're the beat writer for the Rams. How how

811
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: hard has it been for you? Well, I mean, and

812
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: I'll go back. Yeah, Okay, I don't want to No,

813
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: I covered the beat. I'm there. I don't want to

814
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: offend you. I'm not saying it again. But no, it's

815
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: you know you're talking about ninety nine. I'll go back

816
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: to my glory days in high school. Yeah, we my

817
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,479
Speaker 1: first three years, I think we were five and five,

818
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: four and six and five and five again or something

819
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: like that or whatever. But my senior year of high school,

820
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: we got to the point where we were kind of

821
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: running the table up until I think week seven of

822
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: the season. So we started out I don't know, and

823
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: it was it was different because before, when you would win,

824
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, you had all the traditions that you do,

825
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: and at a certain point we were kind of like,

826
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: we've been doing this every week. We don't need to

827
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: celebrate victories like we've really won something until we get

828
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: in the playoffs because we haven't been there, you know

829
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: what I mean. So once you I think that's part

830
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: of it in this, you know, when you're talking about

831
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: high school versus the NFL, it's one, it's one two different,

832
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: very very very different things. But I guess my overarching

833
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: point is once you get to a place where you

834
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: are winning, it does change you mentally, and it changes

835
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: your mentality and it kind of changes everything of the

836
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: way you go about things. I'll share with you. Do

837
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: you know what my image was when he said that,

838
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 1: when Vermeil said that to us, it was the Evans

839
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: family moving out of the ghetto. I'm not kidding you.

840
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: Good times. Yeah, that family finally and they're leaving behind.

841
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: That's what it felt like that all that negative stuff

842
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 1: about rams and bad rams and rams and below five hundred,

843
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: we were leaving that behind. We had left it right

844
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: there that day with our eighth victory. All that is

845
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: over and we're moving on, and it just it just

846
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: changes you as a person. Meant it. It made you

847
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: feel part of the elite class of the NFL. And

848
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: that's how we started to play. Yeah, I mean we

849
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: were good before, but I've seen I've seen a lot

850
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: of teams that run off, you know, ten wins in

851
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: a row or nine wins in a row or whatever,

852
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: and they're above five hundred, but there they still have

853
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: that loser's mentality. They don't believe they should be there,

854
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: and eventually it comes crashing down. Just that day with

855
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: how we had prepared and we had talked about that

856
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: moment and then it happened and we're here and he

857
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: mentioned it eye to eye with everybody, and then in

858
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: the same breath mentioned the other goals that were out

859
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: there for us. Yeah, so let's put that to bed.

860
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: That was the hardest. We have changed our culture. Now

861
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 1: we are now different. Now let's go after these. Yeah,

862
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: so it's out there. Um, So I'm with you. If

863
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: if it's eight and eight or nine and seven, that

864
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: does matter. It does if you're if you go into

865
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: an off season at eight and eight versus seven and

866
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: nine when you're still losing, it's different. It is your

867
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: Your whole offseason is different. So that's what you have

868
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: to hope for. And you have to also hope that

869
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: the offense, this whole team's personality changes for the next

870
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: five six weeks. Yeah, that instead of a special team's

871
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: defensive led football team to oh my god, this kid,

872
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: Jared Goff is the real deal. Yeah, that changes everything.

873
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: That's all right. Well, let's let's switch gears a little

874
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: bit and we'll talk a little bit more about you,

875
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: because you are a Washington Huskie, and your Huskies are,

876
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: you know, in all likelihoods, the best going to the

877
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: college football play. You damn right, you're trying to put

878
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: Michigan in there. If into a Michigan conversation, maybe I

879
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: am a little bit. And so you said that Michigan

880
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: is better than Ohio State. I did, I said they, Well,

881
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: you said Michigan was better than Ohio State. I for

882
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: this is going to be a really embarrassing on the

883
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: damn game Ohio States. So who's better? I am an

884
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: Ohio State guy. I am an Ohio State fan. I

885
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: am from Ohio, like I'm from Cleveland. I was very

886
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: very happy when Ohio State won that game. But I

887
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: probably woke some people up in the hotel where we

888
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: were in New Orleans. Yes you believe Power five conferences

889
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: are equal? No? Absolutely not. I mean but with I

890
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: mean pretty much equal? They're not? Though, like how much

891
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: how much better? The Big twelve is almost equal to

892
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: the SEC? Really, and I think the SEC is that

893
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: good this year? Okay, but how much better is the

894
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: SEC than the PAC twelve in your opinion perception wise

895
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: or or just reality. I would rank them like, you know, SEC,

896
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: Big ten, Uh, probably Pack twelve, ACC, Big twelve, probably

897
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: PAC twelve. Wow, the ACC in the PAC twelve like three,

898
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: they're like tied for three in my mind. Big ten

899
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: has come back up in your opinion? Oh yeah yeah,

900
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: Well you've got like four teams in the top ten

901
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: right now, you know, between Wisconsin State, Michigan. I know

902
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: it's a bad conversation to have. Look, look you get

903
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: no big no Big ten love here. Yeah, that's because

904
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: that's that I'm a PAC ten Pac twelve guy to

905
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: the phone. So really no, when we talk about like

906
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: NFC West Championships, that's number one. Yeah. My first goal,

907
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's first goal when he was at SE is

908
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: to make the Rose Bowl. Yeah. And who do you

909
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: play in the roles? You play the Big ten? Right,

910
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: So there are my moral enemies. So when you say

911
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: the Big ten is number two, I actually agree with you,

912
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: I know because I'm right. Well, when I mean number two,

913
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,479
Speaker 1: I mean like number two, Please to USC, to USC

914
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: to the PAC twelve. Being that's just the way I

915
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: feel about it. But no, I mean, but if you

916
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: look at just merit and how many losses does Michigan have,

917
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: they have two losses and Washington has won one and

918
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: they just won their their championship nor fashion they didn't

919
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: know they didn't. No, I probably wouldn't take them out.

920
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: I might take out Clemson and put in Michigan instead

921
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: because I just the way Michigan's played all year, and

922
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: like I am not a Michigan fan. I don't like them.

923
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't like that team up North, I don't and Harbor. Yeah. No,

924
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: so you're you're basically forgiving them for an Ohio State loss. Yeah,

925
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: because maybe, but it was double overtime. They had opportunities.

926
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: They probably should have won that game and they did not.

927
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: And I think that JT. Barrett made the first out.

928
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: I thought you'd die on that line, and like, if

929
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: he didn't, I would say it m But at the

930
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: same time, Michigan has played really, really well this year,

931
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: and I think maybe it's from a matchup standpoint, I

932
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: would kind of like to see them take on Alabama.

933
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: I just saving, Yeah, I think that would be an

934
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: interesting and I do too. I would I would buy

935
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: a ticket, Yeah, really cool. But you know, I think

936
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: hardball needs to tone it down a little bit. No,

937
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: I want to see hardball give it's safe in the

938
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: hard hand shape, Like he didn't Schwartz slot him on

939
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: the back. Let's see if you get away with that. Yeah,

940
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: see if you get away with that. No, but I'm

941
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: with you, man, But look, you can't forgive teams for

942
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: losses late when you're in the running for a championship.

943
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: Even if your eyes tell you that Michigan is a

944
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: better football team than team X, Y, and Z, you

945
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: can't forgive losses this latens. I guess you blow up

946
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: the whole system. In my opinion, you ruin everything. Would

947
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: you feel the same way of Ohio State lost if

948
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: Michigan had won that game, say, Ohio State should be

949
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: probably the homer in me would, but I probably would not.

950
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: It was double overtime. The same thing should have been

951
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: Ohio State, you know. But yeah, it's I don't know.

952
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: I guess I'm like double standarding myself and like in

953
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: the wrong way. Yeah, that's an high State person. It's funny,

954
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: like go back to the Olympics, and this rarely ever happens.

955
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: It usually happens in college shock meets to where a

956
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: guy in the hundred has the fastest time that year

957
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: and he's clearly the fastest guy in the tournament or

958
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: in the track meet, but he loses in his heat

959
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: and he does not qualify for the final. Yeah, well,

960
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: you can't forgive the loss and put him in there

961
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: just because he's better than everyone else. Well, you still

962
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: have to qualify, right, You still have to clear the

963
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: bar to make the next level. So when you lose,

964
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: you should get docked for it, not the other way.

965
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: All right, Well, no, you're right. So before we wrap

966
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: this up, give me one big key to victory for

967
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: the ram. Rob Grenikowski is out. Yes, that is the

968
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: biggest key I can give you. I know that's the

969
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: most obvious thing. But what does Martellis Bennett look like? Well,

970
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: Martellis Bennett is also you know, I said this a

971
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: long time ago when that move was made and it

972
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: wasn't a big deal then. Yeah, but I'm like Martellis

973
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: Bennett and Rob Gronkowski that is sneaky, dangerous. Yeah, yeah,

974
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: because Gronk is the ultimate weapon. But Martellis Bennett is

975
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: one of the better combo tight ends in the league.

976
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: Is so now you've got two of them. Oh my god,

977
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: that's that's that's vicious. So Gronk out makes them more

978
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: traditional on offense. They don't have the matchup nightmares that

979
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: they had with Gronk in the game. So that's going

980
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: to help you defensively. Um on the other side, the

981
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: Rams offense, Look, all eyes are on golf. Yeah, yeah,

982
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: your improvements and we've seen elite quarterbacks elevate those around them.

983
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: So and I know it's unfair to ask a rookie

984
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: third start facing Bill Belichick Engelte Stadium, but man, hey,

985
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: look the enemies at the door. And I know you're

986
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: not ready, kid, but here's a musket you got to

987
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: defend and you've got to bring it. So it's unfair,

988
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: but that's where you are. If if you want to

989
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: finish above five hundred, it's all on you. That's true.

990
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: I like the Musca reference. Thank you. I don't know

991
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: what I would say there, Dear, Thank you so much.

992
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm glad we were able to do this in Providence. Everybody,

993
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening wherever you may be in football

994
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: studio for twenty five. Yeah, we will see you when

995
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: we see you next time. Thanks for listening,