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Speaker 1: k Ban Okay, welcome. It is Tuesday, twenty two, April

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Speaker 1: Thank you one. You're in DC for a couple of days. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And because at the moment where a manufacturing supercower hedgemon

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Speaker 1: hedgemon and we have a pristine battance sheet, yes, almost

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Speaker 1: virtually no debt, a little bit, but almost no debt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and pretty highly although blue collar, a pretty highly skilled

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Speaker 1: and educated workforce because at that time, white tail Catholic

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Speaker 1: education and still public education had not collapsed.

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Speaker 2: I'd have my kids live in Detroit back then, right now,

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Speaker 2: nigeen sixty two.

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Speaker 1: I'll take that.

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Speaker 2: So you have him then saying we'll be become the buyer,

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Speaker 2: and Saudi Arabia back us up, will become the petro dollar,

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Speaker 2: so everybody will be forced.

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Speaker 1: Everything's converted into this, everything's converted to that, so we

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Speaker 1: become the buyer. Well, that's the dumbest thing. That's the

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Speaker 1: dumbest thing ever. We start teaching our children. But I

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Speaker 1: want to go back because that crisis of the currency

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Speaker 1: and the crisis was driven by by this time, the

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Speaker 1: greatest generation was now coming into power. It's driven by

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Speaker 1: because Johnson, Nixon, and Kennedy all served in the war

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Speaker 1: as junior officers. They weren't the leader. So they decided

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Speaker 1: to do two things. Vietnam, which talks about bigger issues of

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Speaker 1: what they thought about military power and the great society

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Speaker 1: which we thought we had. No we thought we had

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Speaker 1: infinite capacity to do both. Yeah, we were lied to.

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Speaker 1: I mean we've been lied to my whole life. You

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Speaker 1: can have both, you can have it all. You can't,

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Speaker 1: you can't.

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Speaker 2: That was the time where you had the big, big

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Speaker 2: military industrial complex people saying we've got to have the

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Speaker 2: war machine, and on the other side, the big liberals saying, no,

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Speaker 2: we've got to take care of everyone.

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Speaker 1: And what did Nixon do? We have both, let's have both.

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Speaker 1: We shouldn't have either of those things. Okay, because he

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Speaker 1: came in, he had an opportunity to He tried to

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Speaker 1: stop the Vietnam War, but particularly if he was a

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Speaker 1: true conservative, yes, right, he could. And Dixon did a

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Speaker 1: lot of good things, but one thing he made a

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Speaker 1: pact with the devil right of the box and said

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to change anything because he was kind

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Speaker 1: of a liberal and domestic polity aways. Well, he got

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Speaker 1: Daniel Patrick Mornahan and he Patrick Morhan would be a

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Speaker 1: radical right wing Democrat to not right, he'd be like

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Speaker 1: Bobby Kennedy and these guys. Even Trump Trump was a

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Speaker 1: Democrat back then, I know. So that inability to make

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Speaker 1: that decision is what drove the financial crisis. Rad got

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Speaker 1: us off the.

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Speaker 2: Gold stand and then when Ringing gets in, he says

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Speaker 2: it he doesn't do anything about it, but he says,

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Speaker 2: I just want you to know, over the horizon, maybe

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Speaker 2: around the turn of the century, it's going to get

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Speaker 2: so ugly there won't be any good options.

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Speaker 1: And he was a gold standard guy. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: had the raging inflation. He had to have vulcans and

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Speaker 1: ring it out of it. But as far as deficits go,

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Speaker 1: and actually all of his belief in the gold as

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Speaker 1: going back to a gold backed currency all out the window,

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Speaker 1: all of the way. You think that was because of

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Speaker 1: the Bush influence in the uh oh yeah, Jim Baker

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Speaker 1: and that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and Nancy and

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Speaker 1: Nancy Reagan with I mean the he took down the

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Speaker 1: evil Empire, but the whole the rest of it was

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Speaker 1: had one.

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Speaker 2: I think he had one real, two real accomplishments taking

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Speaker 2: down the evil Empire.

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Speaker 1: Which by the big sells previous norms enormous, enormous, And

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Speaker 1: to restore our faith in ourselves, that's what Trump is

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Speaker 1: trying to do. But go back to Reagan talked about

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Speaker 1: tell people because a lot of our viewers were their

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Speaker 1: parents weren't dating back in those days, talk to us

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Speaker 1: about the crisis of confidence in America in the.

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Speaker 2: Exactly the same place, not as not as bad, not

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Speaker 2: as backed up to the hilt as we are now.

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Speaker 1: Our back is against the wall. It felt like it.

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Speaker 2: At the time, we had stagflation, so no jobs were

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Speaker 2: being created, nobody was getting richer.

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Speaker 1: The inflation was going up. It was horrible inflation. Like

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Speaker 1: the interest rates were eighteen percent, yes.

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Speaker 2: Right, eighteen percent, eighteen percent, thank you Federal Reserve. And

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Speaker 2: then uh, and then on top of that, you had

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Speaker 2: the same kind of things happening in our cities where

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Speaker 2: they were out of control. Uh, it just it was

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Speaker 2: their war zones in our cities. It's the same thing,

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Speaker 2: except for the place.

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Speaker 1: The place we're here now, Capitol Hill, ran Bricks, Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court was not I mean, this was a very it's

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Speaker 1: a dangerous neighborhood now. It was almost an unlivable, dangerous

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Speaker 1: neighborhood back then. And so he corrected that. And how

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Speaker 1: did he do that? You're you're, you're, you're, you're, you're

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Speaker 1: a student of leadership. How did he how did he

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Speaker 1: instore confidence in the American people in themselves?

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Speaker 2: He did the same thing that Donald Trump does. I

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Speaker 2: think they're cut from the same cloth. I've never seen

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Speaker 2: have you ever seen a guy who's surrounded by more

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Speaker 2: gold stuff than Donald Trump? And yet he is a

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Speaker 2: McDonald's man. He's a guy who is absolutely relatable.

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Speaker 1: Somehow or another. He never lived it. Ronald Reagan lived

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Speaker 1: the common man like Trump never lived the common man,

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Speaker 1: but he understands it and it's who he is to

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Speaker 1: his core. Same thing with Ronald Reagan. He could speak

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Speaker 1: to the average person, didn't matter what party they were from,

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Speaker 1: and he could appeal to their best instincts. And at

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Speaker 1: the time, you know, uh, you know, he would make

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Speaker 1: fun of the Democrats all the time. He would tell

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Speaker 1: his start his speeches with a joke about the Democrats

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Speaker 1: every time. But it was good nature. And everybody's like, ah,

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Speaker 1: you know, boy, have times changed? Have times changed? No?

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Speaker 1: I think? I mean, and I'm talking about even the

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Speaker 1: Obama era. If you go back and look at the

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Speaker 1: issues we were all over back then, it's like kindergarten compared.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's so vicious and so that the

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Speaker 1: stakes are so high. But back to Reagan, you could,

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Speaker 1: you could, you could, you could Uh, he could tease

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Speaker 1: tip O'Neil and they said they go have a drink afterwards. Yes,

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Speaker 1: because that Democratic party, the Cloward, Piven and all that,

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Speaker 1: the radical nature and the Democrats have not kicked in.

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Speaker 1: When did that start seeping into the politics Clinton? The

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Speaker 1: voter motor motor voter law, that's Cloward and Piven. I

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Speaker 1: mean they were there, or at least she was there.

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Speaker 1: Tell our may not know who are Cloud and why?

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Speaker 1: Why why is the Frankfurt School and Cloard and Piven

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Speaker 1: so important for where.

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Speaker 2: The United States Immanists are chased out of German me because,

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Speaker 2: I believe it or not, fascism and communism are enemies.

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Speaker 2: It's as a as a free market, and you know,

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Speaker 2: somebody who loves freedom seem pretty close to the same.

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Speaker 2: But the Communists are up against the Germans of the Nazis.

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Speaker 2: The Nazis are chasing them out, so they all leave

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Speaker 2: the institutions over in Germany to get away. All the

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Speaker 2: communists do they come over here to southern California.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they go to southern California. Most beautiful places like

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Speaker 1: the friend It's like the Italian Riviera, the most beautiful weather,

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Speaker 1: nicest feather there in Hollywood and the Amford University, and

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Speaker 1: they're full of hate. Yeah, they hate everything about it.

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Speaker 1: But I could understand if you get stuck in some

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Speaker 1: bad part of the country. Well I don't know where

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Speaker 1: that would be, but they come. It's like that. It's

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Speaker 1: like the Muslim guy that went to Colorado, remember him

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Speaker 1: and the guy the guy that wrote the radical uh

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Speaker 1: Chic that came over here for college, you remember, ended

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Speaker 1: up in Centennial, Colorado and said these are the worst people.

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Speaker 1: You know, he went a square dancers, said this is awful.

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Speaker 1: He just had a hatred.

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Speaker 2: They go to the place and square dances aren't really

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Speaker 2: something we should shout exactly.

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Speaker 1: So they go to southern California and they literally hate America. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and everything comes out of that. They have to take

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Speaker 1: down America.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're joining the people that were there, I

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Speaker 2: mean Stanford University. That's where the Human Betterment Society is from.

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Speaker 2: All those buildings at Stanford, they're all named after eugenics.

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Speaker 2: Eugenics and all the eugenics thing that went over to Germany.

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Speaker 2: It's all Southern California, Okay. And so that happens, and

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Speaker 2: then these people are raised Johns Hopkins. Around the turn

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Speaker 2: of the century, they become the first progressive school with

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Speaker 2: genetic I mean, all of this really bad stew is happening,

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Speaker 2: and they decide they're going to get in and start

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Speaker 2: really teaching a new idea of America. And Clard and

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Speaker 2: Piven come out of this back in the sixties and seventies.

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Speaker 2: Their professors at I think it's cooney, isn't it. I

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Speaker 2: can't remember which.

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Speaker 1: University, City, Old City College, City, University of New York.

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Speaker 2: So they they're teaching them high better radicalism for a

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Speaker 2: long time. Oh yeah, and they're teaching let's sign everybody

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Speaker 2: up for all of the benefits that the city is offering,

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Speaker 2: because there's no way they could pay for all those benefits. Yes,

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Speaker 2: so let's get everybody on the dole and crashes.

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Speaker 1: And they did it. It worked, It worked, New York

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Speaker 1: went into bankruptcy. Bankruptcy, Okay, that's what's happening now. That's

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Speaker 1: they make it so the system can't function correct and

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Speaker 1: then when in the collapse and the chaos, they would

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Speaker 1: take charge. Look at what Donald Trump has removed. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know three hundred and fifty thousand people so

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Speaker 1: far that have come in here illegally. Yes, a nothing

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Speaker 1: number in compared to let's say Bill Clinton, who does

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Speaker 1: of the ten mallon that Biden lelled in in a

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Speaker 1: very organized invasion of the country. You're being so kind

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Speaker 1: of Biden by seeing only ten million. Do you think

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Speaker 1: there's more than ten? Yeah? Okay, yeah, I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: about anybody came before. You know, there's twenty thirty, maybe forty,

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Speaker 1: cording to and Culter. But do you think on Biden's

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Speaker 1: watch is more than ten? Yeah? Do you think that

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Speaker 1: those all have to be mass deported? Yeah? Okay, so

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Speaker 1: do I Now, given the fact we've had a firestorm

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Speaker 1: just on MS thirteen and you've got the Democrats they are,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it? It's pretty blatant. I mean you have to

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Speaker 1: be a Democrat now and just go what am I

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Speaker 1: standing with?

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Speaker 2: I'm standing with people who are now standing up for

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Speaker 2: the Palestinians, who are okay. All those people on the streets,

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Speaker 2: they're all okay with what happened on October seventh. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Oh they wanted more? Yeah yeah, So I gotta be

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Speaker 2: okay with that. And I have to be okay.

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Speaker 1: With because they're colonizers. There is ra yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: have to be okay with the new colonizers coming in here,

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Speaker 1: ten million people MS thirteen, raping, killing our children. You know,

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Speaker 1: even at best, even at best, they're good hearted people

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Speaker 1: that are here just want a better life. I understand that.

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Speaker 1: I do understand that. If I were in Mexico, I

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Speaker 1: thought you and I would be the first, the first

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Speaker 1: Biden's gonna invite you. I'm going to say that what

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Speaker 1: that's doing to our children in our school system, and

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Speaker 1: Hispanic and black is a famous working class is a shortling.

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Speaker 1: And Wall Street did this on purpose to lower the

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Speaker 1: wages among unskilled workers. So because they're the problem, not

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Speaker 1: the investment, but the problem we had is wage inflation

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Speaker 1: among the low skilled workers. That was the problem.

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Speaker 2: We we are We're just being played from every single angle.

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Speaker 2: And so now Donald Trump comes in and says its

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Speaker 2: Liberation Day, Liberation Day, and.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean to you? To me? And I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I'm going to see him on Wednesday. I

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Speaker 1: gotta ask him.

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Speaker 2: I think he I think he named it that because

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Speaker 2: I want everyone to understand, all those who are paying

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Speaker 2: it engine Europe. Yeah, liberation Day, liberation from the last

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Speaker 2: liberation day we came in, we set all this stuff up.

646
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 2: It's no longer good for us, it no longer works

647
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: for us. That you're saying that this truly and trumps.

648
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: You is the beginning of the end of World War two.

649
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: Everything we did at the end of World Year two,

650
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: giving giving, giving China to the Chinese Commis party right,

651
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: abandoning the Russian people and letting the Bolsheviks Runna which

652
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: eventually the KGB, and embracing basically guys who didn't fight

653
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: with us. None of the NATO nations really all the

654
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: elites there except for the British, right, if you look

655
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: at the French, the Italians, the Germans, the Swedes, the

656
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: Quislings in Norway, right, the Irish, my Irish, they were terrible, right, but.

657
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: Look what they're doing now. Look at what all those

658
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: countries are doing. They're importing. They're going to be Islamic

659
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: nations with a nuclear.

660
00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: Why why does Europe why the European elites on the culture,

661
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: which is the foundational element of that. We have the

662
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: Judeo Christian west right, that was the first part to

663
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: Christianize outside the desert. Why do they have a death

664
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: Why do they have a death wish. Why are they

665
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: Why are the elites allowing it to happen?

666
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: Because I think they buy into Klaus Schwab and all

667
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 2: of that evil bull crap about we're going to create

668
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: the world and we will we will all run it

669
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: from the top. That's what they're thinking. They think that

670
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: they look progressives always do this. They look at themselves

671
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 2: as ranchers and wear sheep. Okay, the sheep don't need

672
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 2: to know anything. Just go stand over there and they'll

673
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: kill us one by one and eat us one by one.

674
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: But their sheep, they'll never know. A rancher has all

675
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: the power. In the middle of this mix the geopolitics,

676
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: the cultural, the financial. We now add the technological. We're

677
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: from the industrial you know, we're basically flat until the

678
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: industrial revolution. Then the productivity of mankind goes through the

679
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: roof and technology is freeze people over time from labor.

680
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: Now you're in a situation with the convergence of advanced

681
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: chip design and quantum computing and artificial intelligence agi reginative robotics,

682
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: the singularity on that point which used to be science

683
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: fiction and fantasy. And when the book is written twenty

684
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: years ago, a said it was going to take place

685
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: in the late twenty first century. CBS has sixty minutes

686
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: last Night, and the guy saying at outside five or

687
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: ten years.

688
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety five, I'm talking about the singularity, and I'm

689
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: saying it's coming in twenty thirty and no one was

690
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 2: saying that.

691
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: No one was saying that. So the singularity, that convergence

692
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: point on this side is Homo sapien. On the other

693
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: side is homo sapien plus. Would you concur that that

694
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: is the most important inflection point in mankind's history absence

695
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: of birth and death for us? Let me go.

696
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: So there's two ways to look at the singularity. If

697
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: you will, Singularity to some means man of machine merging

698
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: the borg. Okay, most important thing, you lose your humanity. Okay,

699
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: that's when I go all amish. And you know I

700
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 2: talked to you know Raker as well is Oh yeah.

701
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: Well he wrote the book and he was kind of

702
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: an outside fringe guy. Now he's head of developmental Yeah,

703
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: pretty powerful position.

704
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so he's a terrify I've had several interviews

705
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: with him. He is absolutely terrifying. But he doesn't know it,

706
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: that's what he says. Yeah, he just doesn't know it.

707
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: No. To him, it's like it's great. It's great because.

708
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 2: There is no there's no there's no soul to him,

709
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: there's nothing unique about the body and the soul. It's

710
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: just a collection of synapses. Are they mocking the Holy Spirit?

711
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: Are they mocking God when they do this? This is

712
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: no doubt to your no doubt. So evil we are.

713
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: If we're lucky, tower of babble will happen to us.

714
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I've thought about this for years. Tower Babel.

715
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: People don't understand what happened. There was and I talked

716
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 2: to a Jewish rabbi and asked him about the Taro

717
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: babbel because Jewish rabbis they have the oral trade. They

718
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: have written tradition, then they have the oral tradition. The

719
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: oral tradition is tremendous. And so I said, help me

720
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: out on something.

721
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: Neba Canazar comes out in front of the people and

722
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: he gets everybody excited, and he says, let's build bricks,

723
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: and we're going to build a tower to the sky

724
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: and to heaven. Yeah, to heaven.

725
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 2: And what bothered me was, I've never heard a politician

726
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: start with the menial stuff. Okay, why did he say, first,

727
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: let's build bricks and then get to.

728
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: The exciting stuff. Does it mean nothing? He said, good,

729
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: good observation. Whenever you read about bricks and stones in

730
00:38:54,840 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: the scriptures, bricks are slaves, stones are individuals. So he's

731
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: talking not to the people, he's talking to the elites.

732
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: Let's make bricks, let's make slaves. That everybody is interchangeable.

733
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: That doesn't matter.

734
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: You live, your diet, doesn't matter, because what we're going

735
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: to do is we're going to do something to build

736
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: a tower.

737
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: We'll become godlike. Okay.

738
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: In the oral tradition, the good God, the merciful God,

739
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: comes down and destroys, and he says, if they can

740
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: do this, they can do anything. So he changes their

741
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: language and scrambles their language. The only thing that will

742
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: save us after the singularity is a scrambling of our one.

743
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: And we're back up in nineteen ninety five. I think

744
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: Kroswel was in the music business at the time. And

745
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: you're a shock jock, right, how did you in being

746
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: a shock jock, how did you come up with understanding

747
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: and understanding even this concept? Because technocracy, this is one

748
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: of the powers of Brazizsi, the new biography they don't

749
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: really get into. But unlike Kissinger, he looked down range

750
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: at the thing called the technocracy which was starting to

751
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: come up right, the the what do we call the

752
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: oligarchs today, the tech oligarchs. Why did you see that

753
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: ninety I just saw. I just saw the way technology

754
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: was going. And Ray wasn't just in the music industry.

755
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: I mean he he made the Kurzweil piano. Yes, I synthesize,

756
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: and I think he made it for Stevie Wonder. Yes,

757
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: but he was in technology and he was the guy

758
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: well he was bringing technology the music, yes, but he

759
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: was also a futurist at the time. Yes, And so

760
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: I read a lot of his stuff. Oh you were

761
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: you were reading that stuff back then? Oh yeah, yeah?

762
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: And when the Age it scared you back in ninety five.

763
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: Have you read The Age of Spiritual Machines from the nineties, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, barely.

764
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: Well I'll tell you if you read that, if you

765
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: read Kazinski or the the uh the Unibomber, yeah, I

766
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: mean his manifesto can be pretty scary about how he

767
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: tried to warn about at least certain aspects of the

768
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: technocracy and society. The wrong way on that one, But

769
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: I think his execution was a little different, right, yeah, execution.

770
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: But so in ninety five, what did you say, Uh,

771
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: We're going to enter a world. I remember I said

772
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: it to my producer, is still my producer. I said, Soon,

773
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: we are going to enter a world where your television

774
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: will be in your pocket. You will have download times

775
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: where you're not watching Thursday night Must see TV on NBC.

776
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: You'll be either it'll either download.

777
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: A certain day at midnight and you watch it whenever

778
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 2: you want, or it will or they'll download the whole

779
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: season and you can watch it. And uh, and I said,

780
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: but what comes after that? Is this this growth of

781
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: an intellectual being ai agi and as I And when

782
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: when we get to that, you're starting to ask questions

783
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: about life itself that nobody's asking yet. And I've been trying,

784
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: been beaten the drum. There are questions we have to

785
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: answer before we get here, and we're not going to. Well,

786
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: first of your point about once we hit the singularity,

787
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: it's almost too late to become mom.

788
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: If we don't do it, If we don't do it now, I.

789
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: Mean, the singularity is two things. It's one merging of

790
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 2: man a machine. But the other singularity, if you look

791
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: at a black hole, the singularity is the point of

792
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: no return. So in other words, let's say you're in

793
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: a row boat and you're just going down the stream

794
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 2: and you're having fun and your girls with an umbrella,

795
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: strangely dressed in Victorian clothing, and you're rowing, and you

796
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: start to hear a rumble and you start to row,

797
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: and now you're sucked into it, and you realize that's

798
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: a waterfall and there's nothing you can do.

799
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: You can't get out of it. The point and you

800
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: can't turn your point, you can't turn around. Where you

801
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: can't turn around, current is too strong, too strong. That's

802
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: what Elon Musk meant about the singularity when he said,

803
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: we are at the point of the singularity, Okay, mean

804
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: of no return now, yes, meaning we are now at

805
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: that point of no return. We're going to be sucked

806
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: into this thing. So the spiritual questions and spiritual ramifications

807
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: of this are enormous. The intellectual ramifications I know you've read,

808
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: you've all Noah Harari. Yes, he's a scary dude, scary

809
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: and he he sees all this, he knows what's coming,

810
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: and he says, there's who the boat what Homo sapings

811
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: and homodos Yes, the second.

812
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: Man God second one's terrified, terrifying, And he talks about

813
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: and you'll notice everybody who's in the WF loves him.

814
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: In fact, he's rumored to be the guy who's going

815
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 2: to replace.

816
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: Right if he doesn't as the head of it. He's

817
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: the intellectual, he's the intellectual power. And he talks about

818
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: the millions of people that are going to be useless people.

819
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: I've heard useless eaters before. And what are we going

820
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: to do. Well, we're going to either holdcome to technology

821
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: or to drugs. Okay, if you don't, if you're not

822
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: aware of all of this, this stuff is going to

823
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: come at you so fast. It's going to be like

824
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: social media, except there is no return. Okay. So this

825
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: is the point of what I want to get to today.

826
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: In twenty ten and eight, two thousand and two, thousy ten,

827
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: you went from somebody that was kind of on the margins.

828
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: You went to a great job see and went to

829
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: Fox and then became a superstar okay, and changed television

830
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 1: to make late afternoon a you know, appointment TV. People

831
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: in this MSMEC and others draft off that end of

832
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: five you warned specifically about clard pivot, about what was happening, sye.

833
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: If you look at all the different crisis ahead, you

834
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: go back to your show back then you want and

835
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: the most important, the hardest one to get to a

836
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: general audience. At five o'clock in the afternoon, the debt

837
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: quantit first time quantitative easing. You were actually teaching people

838
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: how the New York's fed trading desk works, which guys,

839
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: and that's at first. The guys at Wall Street told me,

840
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: and I watched it, this is unbelievable. And guess what,

841
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: Seventeen years later, you know we're in worse shape after

842
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: all those warnings. I'm not blaming me, I said, so

843
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: many people have done it, just like you're drawn inexorably

844
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: to your doom. We're now and we're now almost in

845
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: a point of no return on the on the balance sheet,

846
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: the night act fly Now.

847
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is saying right now, stay cool, stay cool.

848
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 2: It's going to get bumpy. And I wish I could

849
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: figure out a way for him to say it, or

850
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: for all of us to say it, so you know

851
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: he didn't have to, because I remember I was called

852
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: into the Oval office by George Bush one time because

853
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: I was complaining about the gol for and it was

854
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: going horribly and I'm like, what the hell are we doing?

855
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: And I get a call. I get off the air

856
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Speaker 2: at Fox or at CNN, and I get a call

857
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Speaker 2: and it's like, pick it up, mister Beckett's the White

858
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Speaker 2: House the President. Would I see you in the Oval tomorrow?

859
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh crap. I go there and he

860
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: sits me down. I'm in a Zelenski chair, okay. And

861
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: he sits me down and he says, you know, a

862
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: lot of people think they f and know what it's

863
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: like to be president in the United States. They have

864
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: no fn idea what it's like. And I thought this

865
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: is gonna be the longest hour of my life. And

866
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: he explained that there are things I cannot say because

867
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Speaker 2: the entire world is watching, and I'll never forget because

868
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: I said to him, I said, mister President, that's the president.

869
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: I'd like to see more of, not this wail ad,

870
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: you know, And he said, I can't. I get so

871
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: twisted up in my head because I can't say this.

872
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 2: I can't say this. I know this person is watching.

873
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: I can't shift my eyes on this. Donald Trump is

874
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 2: trying to be as clear as he can be.

875
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: He's dissonnermedia. He has him right into the oval for

876
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Speaker 1: the press breee, And I said, think about it. If

877
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Speaker 1: Busher run it that way, where every day you ask

878
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: some questions. He's disinnermediate to mainstream media. So you have

879
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: a constant almost real time because only get ten minutes left. Okay,

880
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: hang on, hang on, hang on. So in giving the

881
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: warning and laying out what was going to happen, fifteen

882
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: years later, we're now in extremists. I mean, President Trump

883
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: is going to have to These are hard decisions we're

884
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: going to have to make, and the alternatives of narrative, narrative, narrative.

885
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: At the same time, a group of USUE included, are

886
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: starting to warn about the singularity, which about change of

887
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: man and about change in the world is to the

888
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: tenth power of these almost insurmountable financial and we're talking

889
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: about so how many It changes everything And it's the

890
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: worst part people in the world, in the universe are

891
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: running this. Oh right, so and on that. Once you

892
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: hit that singularity, you can go amish. But if we're

893
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: going to become the Lightites have to stand up now

894
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: and say you agree. We have to stay up now

895
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: and say, hey, we can't do we got to have

896
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: we have to have a sit down on this thing.

897
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: Because of the four guys running artificial intelligence. You have

898
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: to have a Korean nail salon here in Washington, d C.

899
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: You have more regulation, then you have no regulation whatsoever.

900
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: And now the pitch is the Chinese Commists Party, because

901
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: of deep think, may be so ahead of us that

902
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: the oligarch said, oops, we need a bailout. We need

903
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: at least five hundred billion dollars, we need a Marshall plan.

904
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: Maybe you give us the National Labs. No problem there

905
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: to turn over to these guys Sandia and Lawrence Livermore,

906
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: and they don't need any regulation because the Chinese Commists

907
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: Party is going to rule. So we're in the worst

908
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: position of the world because we stand up to them.

909
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: They say, hey, you guys are turning over world control.

910
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: Schmid just came out this morning said that if you

911
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: turn if you don't give us unfettered money, access to

912
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: the National Labs, everything, we're going to fall in back

913
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: of the Chinese Commists Party and then it's over. We're

914
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: in as a culture and society in a world we

915
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: have jammed ourselves into the worst, the hardest problems we

916
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: used to face, which you're almost insurmountable, now look like

917
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: nothing compared to what we don't attack.

918
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: In every on every front. I mean, it's it's I mean,

919
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: I know you believe in God. I believe in God.

920
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: It's it's like Jesus, when are you coming? When you're coming?

921
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: Because I don't know if we can I don't know

922
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: how this all plays out. I don't know how this

923
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 2: all plays out.

924
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: I just know that if we are going to reset,

925
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: we cannot return factory jobs. We need to build nuclear

926
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: power plants. We need we need power, We need energy.

927
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: We need our own rare earth minerals. We need to

928
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: be mining our own places. We need to be in processing. Yeah,

929
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: we need to be. We need to have to be

930
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: able to dig it up, process it and use it. Here.

931
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: We need to be on the cutting edge of AI.

932
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: How are you on the cutting edge of AI without

933
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: so sort of regulations or without its spinning out of control?

934
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: So I talked to make me feel better. This was well,

935
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: I can't Is the cavalry gonna arrive to save us

936
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: or do we have to save ourselves? Is anybody coming

937
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: to save us? Not? So we have to save ourselves.

938
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: And with Trump, you got the best shot, at least

939
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: on a post issue. This is why I keep I

940
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: keep saying to the audience, because we have my audience.

941
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: They're like, well, and you're a free market kind I'm like,

942
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Do you have a better idea

943
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: because I don't have a better alternative. We have one guy.

944
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,479
Speaker 2: You blow this chance, I don't know, we get another

945
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 2: bite at the apple. We have one guy. I don't know.

946
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: He's earned his place for us to go. Okay, is

947
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: didn't come as a surprise if you walked in the

948
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: voting booth and went, I think he's joking about tariffs.

949
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: You're a moron. You're a moron. Okay, you have that

950
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: should not be that should not be a surprise. That no,

951
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: out of everything, out of everything.

952
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: Uh, And we have one shot and if we blow it,

953
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 2: there's no going back.

954
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: He has shut down the border, which they told us.

955
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: You know, Langford came with the bill. It's going to

956
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 1: take us a decade. All these bills in sixty days.

957
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: We now have essentially sigurta. We got to do much more.

958
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: We haven't deported many people, but he's proven that of

959
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: every when you talk to him on Wednesday, of everything

960
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: that's going on, what is your recommendation to the president

961
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: as he triages these problems?

962
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 2: Not at you know him, he's I'm sure he's like

963
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 2: this with you. I'll see him once, I don't know,

964
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: every couple of months.

965
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: Oh no, he'll take care. He listens, he said, he

966
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: wants to have feedback. He's a guy. People don't understand this.

967
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: In meetings, he's not talking on the time he's there

968
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: Bill Bill Maher said the other day when he goes

969
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: to Bill Maher, that's actually truthful. He's sitting there listening

970
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: to me. He called.

971
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: He called me and we talked about tariffs and I'm like,

972
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: we're not going to come together and teor this is

973
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 2: before this term. I'm like, we're not going to come

974
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: together on tariff's and he said, no, tell me why.

975
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: And we had a good thirty minute conversation on tariff

976
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: where he listened, he asked logical next questions, and then

977
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 2: he got to it. And I had even more respect

978
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: for him at the end because not only did he listen,

979
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 2: and I'm a nobody. Why should you listen to me

980
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: on this? But he listens, and then at the end

981
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: he said, you know, Glenn, you make some good points, but.

982
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it anyway. I just love tariffs, the word,

983
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: the tea words. And I hung up the phone and

984
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: I went, no politician would ever do that. Politicians say

985
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: you made some really good pot I'm going to think

986
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: about that, and then they do it exactly.

987
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: This guy had the balls to tell me to my face, Yeah,

988
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: I just love him.

989
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it anyway. With the convergence of

990
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: the singularity on top of all the institutional structural problems

991
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: we have that Trump and you see us working through

992
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: with the Deep States fighting us every day. The Supreme

993
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: Court bailed on sal O the night.

994
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: You know, I wonder maybe you have an answer for this.

995
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: I wonder why he hasn't taken Congress to the woodshed.

996
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: The only chance we have is cut our regulation dramatically.

997
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: Pass the Reins Act. Okay, past the Rains Act. Past

998
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: that cut the regulation, but at least by half. Then

999
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: give unleash the animal spirits. Yes, give me fifteen fifteen

1000
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: fifteen in taxes, fifteen percent capital gains fifteen percent for

1001
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 2: the average person fifteen. Maybe it's seventeen, seventeen, seventeen.

1002
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't care. But that incentivizes the entrepreneur. I can

1003
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: start my own business. Seventy percent of all jobs begin

1004
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 1: with small businesses. Yes, we've got to incentivize those people.

1005
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: And that's Congress. And they're sitting around like they did

1006
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: after they won the Tea Party. They're going to be

1007
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: responsible for losing this whole thing. They've got to move.

1008
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 1: What do you say about the investigations, the deep state?

1009
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: Everything we know about Brennan. Okay, talk about that. We

1010
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: only got a couple of minutes. Our audience. The one

1011
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: thing they get furious about is this and Pam and cash.

1012
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: As good as you get, what's the problem your audience?

1013
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: The same way they're staying.

1014
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, you can do an awful lot

1015
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: of stuff, but until you start putting bad guys in jail,

1016
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: I don't believe you.

1017
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 1: I don't believe you. And you know, a sense of urgency,

1018
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: it's not like we have this forever. No, I mean,

1019
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: if he came, Jeffries wins in eighteen months, which is

1020
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: not as sad the possible. The race too were done.

1021
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: They're going to teach Trump done? So where where is

1022
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: the dj Okay? I know Cash quite well. I believe Cash.

1023
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: I don't know Pam Okay that I'm not throwing dispersions

1024
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 2: on her. But something's not right. Why aren't you unleashing?

1025
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: Is that the deep state has them by the throat?

1026
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: What is it? But it's got to be solved. You

1027
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: you have no Is that a message that you think

1028
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: you're I don't want to get into your private conversation

1029
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: with the president, but is that why you would highlight that?

1030
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah? You think there needs a bit

1031
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: a sense of urgency about this? What does any of

1032
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: it mean? Why is Congress taking so much time off

1033
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: right now? Traditional two weeks of vacations are two weeks

1034
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: back they consider where they don't have town halls. I

1035
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean it because collectively they're good people,

1036
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: but as a body, they're horrible.

1037
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 2: They're absolutely horrible. I honestly, Steve, I can't tell you.

1038
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 2: I'm I am at a loss for DOJ and I'm

1039
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 2: at a loss for Congress, and I'm at a loss

1040
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: on Donald Trump.

1041
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: Man.

1042
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: Why aren't you using the bully pulpit to go after

1043
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: your own here, eat them, eat them, tell them. Oh,

1044
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: we're watching you. The whole country is watching you. Get

1045
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 2: to work. Do these things.

1046
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: Now. Have you seen the clock on the wall and

1047
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: the numbers spinning? We're burning daylight, berning day light. Okay,

1048
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: we got two minutes. How's everybody and audience get to

1049
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: your content. BlazeTV dot com or Glennbeck dot com joined

1050
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: back to have the books, the writings, all that, and

1051
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: Blazes don't putt up great articles. We have guys on

1052
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: your friend Blaze all the time. You guys are doing Yeah, unbelievable.

1053
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: This is pure not so. You guys are real business.

1054
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: You got a studio, you got people. You're like, we're gonzo,

1055
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: but we're doing what we're doing. We got to do

1056
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: this more often. I love that.

1057
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: No, because you know, can I say something I said

1058
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: to your daughter when we met in Phoenix? Because you

1059
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 2: and I can we really spend any time together?

1060
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: No? Yeah, and uh a little bit back in two

1061
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: thousand and with Peter, I showed up to a dinner

1062
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: one night because I was so amazed that you were

1063
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: talking about quantitative easing. I said to Strikes, I got

1064
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: to go see this guy. Yeah, and you were into

1065
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: it at the time. It wasn't phony. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: had it down and you were explained to people, and

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Speaker 1: they ate it up. One of the reasons we do

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Speaker 1: so much capital markets on here. I tell people all

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Speaker 1: the time, I say, Glenn Back showed you. If you

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Speaker 1: open up the people about me, all you have to do, somebody,

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Speaker 1: All you have to do is explain it to them.

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Speaker 1: We're down to a minuting I just want to say

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Speaker 1: to you, Yeah, out of all the wrongs that have

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Speaker 1: been done, out of all the things, I don't care

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Speaker 1: if you were the anti Christ, what happened what this

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Speaker 1: country did to you to No, it's not it's it's

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Speaker 1: I know it was wrong, but it was. It's closing

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Speaker 1: these people, I tell everybody, But when you lose them,

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Speaker 1: where do those when they when they steal the election

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, If they steal it, You're going to prison.

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Speaker 1: I'm going back to prison, and Donald Trump's going to prison.

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Speaker 1: These people are neo Marxi's and they play smash mouth

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Speaker 1: and we are not doing it. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: Glenn Back here for an entire hour. How's it going?

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Speaker 1: That was on fire? Good luck? On Wednesday? Here for

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Speaker 1: a couple of days. You got to come back to DC.

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Speaker 1: You come back once a quarter, once every six months,

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Speaker 1: possibly can that's kind of a depressing place, even with

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Speaker 1: President Trump in charge. Okay, everybody, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you back here at five pm. Will be

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk follows his Pasoba gaffer that you get Steve Gruber,

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Speaker 1: Eric Bowling. I'll do the handoff from Bowling at five o'clock.

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Speaker 1: See you back at five o'clock.