1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the program. We got a lot to 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 1: dive into here in the final hour. I'm out in 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, buckdown in Florida. I wanted to hit this 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: news because it could turn into potentially an interesting and 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: serious story. Certainly it would have if this had not. Well, 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: I'll give you the detail and I'll explain a five 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: Memphis police officers, they were recently released from the Memphis 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: Police force, have been charged with second degree murder in 11 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: the murder of a twenty nine year old black man 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: who was pulled over in Memphis. They were found I'm 13 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: reading from the Wall Street Journal article. The five officers 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: were fired by the police department last week following an 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: internal investigation into the death. The five officers have been 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: booked into the Shelby County Memphis jail and face charges 17 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: of second degree murder. This twenty nine year old father 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: died in a Memphis hospital in January, three days after 19 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: officers pulled over his car. There is evidently video footage 20 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: of this beating. Now all five Memphis police officers who 21 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: have been charged with second degree murder are black, so 22 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: this is going to be an interesting story to follow 23 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: one to see whether or not they might be guilty too. 24 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: When this video footage comes out, what the reaction in 25 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: Memphis will be. Memphis would have likely been having all 26 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: sorts of issues in the city if these cops were white, 27 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: certainly it would have been totally different. But this news 28 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: five Memphis police officers who were fired have been charged 29 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: with second degree murder based on a traffic stop of 30 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: a twenty nine year old in the city of Memphis. 31 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Memphis has been dealing buck We talked about this in 32 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: the murder of the young mom who was out for 33 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: a jog in Memphis early in the morning, training I 34 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: believe for a marathon. Memphis has been setting record highs 35 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: for homicides. It is one of many cities in the 36 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: United States that have fallen basically completely apart in the 37 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: wake of the George Floyd murder. And this certainly is 38 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: going to make things I would imagine, very tense in 39 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: the city of Memphis. Not as tense, frankly, as if 40 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: these were five white officers, in which case I think 41 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: the city of Memphis would already be in the throes 42 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: of massive protest, but five black police officers charged with 43 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: second degree murder for allegedly killing a guy in a 44 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 1: traffic stop twenty nine year old. That video maybe coming 45 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: out soon, just putting it on the radar of everyone 46 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: out there to see how this plays going forward. That 47 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: news just coming down. They have video of it which 48 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: has not been shown yet to the public. But the 49 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: family of the individual of the victim here was shown 50 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: the video for their you know, the video of the 51 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: arrest of Tyre Tyree Nichols, Tyree West. Yeah Nichols, Sorry, yeah, 52 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: Tyree Nichols, and they're already saying that there. The family 53 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: has said, through their lawyer, believe that there are similarities 54 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: in the video to the Los Angeles beating of Roddey 55 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: King in nineteen ninety one, that that that what this 56 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: will show that we don't know yet we haven't seen 57 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: the video, is that this was an individual who was 58 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: beaten to death during a confrontation with a traffic after 59 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: a traffic stop and clay. When this video comes out, 60 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: I think that's when you might see more of a 61 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: flashpoint because that remember with George Floyd, it was the 62 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: video that was what the the moment was that of 63 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: the conflagration across the country that then led to riots 64 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: in the destruction of buildings and the whole areas of 65 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: cities and looting and all of that. But it was 66 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: because of the emotional response to that video. I think 67 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: this video when it comes out, we may also see 68 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: some degree of anti police protests. By the way, in 69 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: this case, from what we've seen so far, it could 70 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: very well be me these officers that the DA has 71 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: already looked at the video evidence that is charging them 72 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: all with second degree murder. So that to me indicates 73 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: sometimes cops do commit a murder that does happen. We've 74 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: seen that before. There was that officer in I believe 75 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: with South Carolina who shot the man in the back 76 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: who's running away. That does happen. It is very rare, 77 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 1: fortunately for us in the society. But I also think 78 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: we all have an expectation that because all five officers 79 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: involved in this beating death of a black man are 80 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: themselves black, the response will be far more muted, the 81 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: response will be far less severe than it would be. 82 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: To your point, and why is you know, you start 83 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: to get into the why is that isn't Isn't this 84 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: just supposed to be about about you know, we always 85 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: are told it's about police violence, and it's about making 86 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: sure that every citizen's basic civil rights are respected. Well, 87 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: when police step out of line in this way and perhaps, 88 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, allegedly commit a really vicious murder, shouldn't there 89 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: be just as much outrage? I mean, it sounds like 90 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: in this instance it might. Here's where I'm going with this. 91 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: Michael Brown, the beginning of the Black Lives Matter movement, 92 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: the Michael Brown incident involved, as we know now and 93 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: even at the time, it was pretty clear I think 94 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: what happened based on the the video evidence of Mike 95 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: Brown strong arming the guy before and then then the 96 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: exchange in the street. Um, that was a that was 97 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: an law enforcement officer defending himself. That's what the That 98 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: is what Eric Hold There's Justice Department of the Obama 99 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: administration found that was a completely just was a lie 100 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: all a lie, But that was a totally justifiable use 101 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: of force in you know, the the George the George 102 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: Floyd incident, which was he that officer was convicted of murder. 103 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: But you can see, you know there in the in 104 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: the lead up that situation. The guy had a lot 105 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: of fentanyl in his system. It was uh, you know 106 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: that there are people who still argue that absent the drugs, 107 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: he wouldn't have died. It might have been excessive force, 108 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: but it wasn't supposed to be lethal, or rather he 109 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: didn't know. The officer wouldn't have known that it would 110 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: be lethal. Excessive force. People make that argument in this instance, 111 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: we may have five cops who beat a guy to 112 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: death on video, but because of the ethnicity of the officers, 113 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: the outrage will be far less. In a case that 114 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: could well be and based on the early facts, seems 115 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: like it may well be far more egregious. You know, yeah, 116 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: And I think I think we have to look at 117 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: why that is well BLM. I've been saying this for 118 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: a long time. Black lives matter. There needs to be 119 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: a parenthetical after BLM, and it needs to say when 120 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: white people are involved, because it seems like black lives 121 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: matter only based on who takes the life of a 122 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: black person, right. And I don't think there's any doubt 123 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: that if five white cops in Memphis had been charged 124 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: with second degree murder and fired as police officers, that 125 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: this would be right now the number one story in America, 126 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: and that Memphis would be in the throes of massive 127 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: amounts of protests. We'll see what happens now. Benjamin Crump, 128 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: who is basically the guy who shows up anytime something 129 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: bad happens and police are involved, is representing the family here, 130 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: and the Reverend Al Sharpton is delivering a eulogy at 131 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: Tyree Nichols funeral. So maybe this is going to grow 132 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: in outrage. But I think BLM does not see this 133 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: as a as as the charge point of their organization 134 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: because again they focus on white people primarily being involved 135 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: in black deaths. They don't really care that much about 136 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: black lives when black lives are taken by other black people. 137 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: When you go back and review the thread that goes 138 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: through the connection between these various moments of extreme political activism. 139 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: Regarding racist violence, usually they say racist violence by cop. 140 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: But but in the case of George Zimmerman, we recall 141 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: the designation all of a sudden, who was not a cop, 142 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: was just a guy who happened to be armed in 143 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: Florida and got into a fight with Trayvon Martin. We 144 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: saw the designation of white Hispanic being used right, Remember 145 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: that that white Now. I know people say that has 146 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: existed in other contexts, but let me just be let's 147 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: be very honest. The media was leaning very hard on 148 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: a white Hispanic part of this because the story of 149 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: a Latino guy and a black guy getting into a 150 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: fight and one of them getting shot wasn't wasn't the narrative, 151 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: so they had to make it, oh, this this he's 152 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: he's a white Hispanic, Therefore it fits the narrative, and 153 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: therefore it's about and this is where we got was 154 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: didn't a bunch of NBA teams with the hoodies? When 155 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: did put the yes hoodies on the cord and all 156 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: this solidarity? Trayvon Martin tried to dash look George Zimmerman 157 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: for what I stands, you know, I think did he 158 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: get arrested later on for something else? I don't remember 159 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: every detail of what happened afterwards in the guy's life. 160 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: Trayvon Martin tried to beat him senseless and maybe to death. 161 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you're smashing someone's head into the curb on 162 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: the sidewalk, and you're on top of them, and you 163 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: wear one hundred and eighty pounds and you have a gun, 164 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: you're going to use it. But that, remember, so that 165 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: create a huge outrage and prot you know, and the 166 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: beginnings of these protests, Michael Brown, huge outrage, the beginning 167 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: of the official BLM movement, and those were you know, 168 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: those were much the circumstances were far less clear of 169 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: one law enforcement obviously because George Zimmer is not a cop, 170 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: but too far less clear that this was an egregious 171 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: crime against a young black man than what may come 172 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: out in Memphis here, which seems like based on the 173 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: bodycam footage, it is going to be very bad. And remember, 174 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: you know this, this is one of these moments you say, so, 175 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: why isn't this something that's going to the movement here? 176 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: Just the movement won't care. BLM won't care as much 177 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: about this as they have others because ultimately, the the 178 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: it's not really about the cop so much as it's 179 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: just about highlighting and some would say, exaggerating white racism 180 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: in this country for political advantage. That's exactly what it is. 181 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: It's not about the black life, it's about who takes 182 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: the black life. It's kind of an illustrative way to 183 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: look at it. And if you look at the way 184 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: the media cover it now. If these guys truly committed 185 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: a crime, they deserve to be prosecuted the police. Also 186 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: for everybody out there who is a police officer, and 187 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: we got a ton of police officers listening to us 188 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: right now. If this video comes out and goes viral, 189 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: it's going to further diminish the relationship between police officers 190 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: and the communities they try to protect, which is going 191 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: to create, unfortunately, more situations like these, which is why 192 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: I tell my kids this all the time. I would 193 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: encourage everybody out there to tell your kids to do 194 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: the same. Almost every time, and I haven't seen the 195 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: video here, but almost every time there is a violent 196 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: act between a police officer and a citizen, it is 197 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: because why buck, the citizen doesn't comply with the initial 198 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: commands of the police officer. Right, listen to a police officer. 199 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: If you are being treated in an unconstitutional manner, you 200 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: have an opportunity, thanks to our justice system, to be 201 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: able to have legal representation to point that out. If 202 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: you fight with a police officer, if you refuse to 203 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: comply with their demands, you accelerate rapidly the potential for 204 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: violence in that interaction. Comply with the demands of police officers, 205 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: even if you think they're talking to you in an 206 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: aggressive manner, even if you think you have done nothing wrong. 207 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: The worst thing you can do is refused to comply 208 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: because that accelerates the violent chances of an interaction. So 209 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: for everybody, I tell my kids this all the time. 210 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: My boys are young, fourteen, twelve, and eight. You got 211 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: kids and grandkids out there, tell them that please just 212 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: listen and obey the commands of a police officer. If 213 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: they tell you to do something that's improper. If your 214 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: rights are being violated, you can challenge that later. You 215 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: can't challenge violence. Well, we'll see what happens in Memphis. 216 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: Do you have time and your weight to learn even 217 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: more than you do here listening to us right now? 218 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: I hope so. 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So 245 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to be very careful here. As you can imagine. 246 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: What I can say is repeat what the President has 247 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: said in multiple time. He takes classified information, he takes 248 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: classified documents very seriously. His team currently is fully cooperating 249 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: with the legal procedure that is happening under the Department 250 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: of Justice and also the Special Council. I'm just not 251 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: going to go beyond that. I'm not going to predict 252 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: or or lay out to anything that might happen in 253 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: the future. What I can say is this is something 254 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: that the president. This is a matter an issue that 255 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: the President takes very seriously. Oh I'm glad the President 256 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: takes it so seriously. That makes me feel so much better. Clay, 257 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: She was asked, this is Kuri. Jean Pierre asked whether 258 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: we could get kind of a guarantee that they're not 259 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: going to leave, whether it's Biden or Como, leave the 260 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: White House with classified when they're done. You know, can 261 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: you promise this this won't happen again? Green Jean Pierre's like, whoa, whoa, 262 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: let's not make any promises about the future here. It's like, okay, 263 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: so you're telling me maybe I guess that's the best 264 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: we can do. I wish we could do a greatest 265 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: hits for the most histrionic reaction to the Trump Mara 266 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: Lago classified documents. But off the top of my head, 267 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: the one that I read that legitimately had me rolling 268 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: my eyes was in the New York Times Buck when 269 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: they did like a mock up on the front page 270 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: of Mara Lago and the headline was something like within 271 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: feet of where people partied Donald Trump attempted to store 272 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: classified documents. And I'm like, yeah, he lives at mar Lago, 273 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: and it also has a big ballroom and it's a 274 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: public I mean, it's a private club. You know. Like this, 275 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: this whole histrionic idea that somehow there was danger associated 276 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: with it because there was a ballroom where we actually 277 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: did our radio show from in proximity to the locked 278 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: door was crazy. I guess we were partying next to 279 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: that classified clay and didn't even know it. Evidently could 280 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: have fallen into clay and Bucks hands good heavens. What then? Look, 281 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: I think you really nail that when First Hour were 282 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: talking about this and I was saying, the field is 283 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: clear for Trump. Never underestimate the Democrats' ability to do 284 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: something more onic, right, I mean, you know this is 285 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: this is a gift. This is a gift from the 286 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: Biden administration because they went so all in on the 287 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: Marlago docks and that was the medias that was going 288 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: to be their new Rushia collusion everybody. They were going 289 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: to run with that for two years, drip drip, drip, 290 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: the whole thing. And now they've just they've just stepped 291 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: in it. I don't think they can do anything about it. Yeah, 292 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: it's a bear trap. And that's why I flipped. I 293 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: mean I've been saying on this show for a year, 294 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: you know, I mean ever since August happened, six months 295 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: that I thought Trump was gonna get charged, And as 296 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: soon as this Biden thing happened, I said it's over. 297 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: And now you've seen even the New York Times had 298 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: a front page article about it yesterday saying, oh, by 299 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: the way, guys, no charges now coming for Trump. Biden 300 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: screwed up all that possibility. 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We're talking 326 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: about the Santis in the New Hampshire primary and how 327 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: that's going to shake out with Trump earlier in the show. 328 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast, make sure 329 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: you don't miss anything. Lots of cool new stuff going 330 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: up there as well. But there now is a new outrage. 331 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: They are going after rhn de Santis over this ap 332 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: black history course that he has said, Hey, this is 333 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: not rooted in actual history, and so I'm not going 334 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: to support it as an AP course. And I'm going 335 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: to play a cut from Don Lemon here on CNN 336 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: in a second. But what I would encourage everybody out 337 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: there to think about is the concept of banning books 338 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: is talked about in Earnest a Great Deal, or banning 339 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: courses or whatever else. I want you to think about 340 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: it in this way, deciding whether a book is appropriate 341 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: or not for an age range in a school is 342 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: not banning the book. The book is still available all 343 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 1: sorts of places. In the same way, if you go 344 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: out to the movies, you usually don't take a ten 345 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: year old to an R rated movie now Buck and 346 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: I grew up where you did go to some har 347 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: rated movies back in the day, Terminator two, all these 348 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: different movies. But by and large, the reason why we 349 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 1: have age ranges on movies is to allow parents to determine, Hey, 350 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: is this appropriate or inappropriate for kids to be reading. 351 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: And a lot of the debate in Florida has been 352 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: about age appropriate instruction, which is not banning anything. If 353 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: you're a parent and you think, oh, my kid needs 354 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: to read xbook or why book, you can go get 355 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: it for him. The banning is like what the left 356 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: has done when they decide, oh, Doctor Seuss is this 357 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: book can no longer be shared on Amazon because it's unacceptable, 358 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: because it's super racist or whatever it was. But I 359 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: want you to listen to Don Lemon here, as we 360 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: have found another front in the culture bat as it 361 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: pertains to ap history courses being approved or disapproved. Listen, 362 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: what are we doing here? I mean, I feel like 363 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: we're going back. I feel like I'm watching a bad 364 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: version of like Pleasantville, where you're I don't get what's happening. 365 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: It feels like the nineteen fifties all over again, with 366 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: like book banning is This is cancel culture from people 367 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: who are I guess they just want our kids to 368 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: be ignorant and to control the teachers. This is outrageous. 369 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: I don't I really don't even know how to explain 370 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: what's going on here. It's just ridiculous. I don't think 371 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: that at all. Buck. Look, one thing that the right 372 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: has woken up to in the last ten years a bit, 373 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: but in the last five years in particular, and credit 374 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: to Chris Rufo for example, by exposing the CRT agenda 375 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 1: in the classroom, critical race there in the classroom, our 376 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: friend Ryan Grdusky running the seventeen seventy six project Packed 377 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: to teach American history that's actual history, and to get 378 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: school boards involved in this process, to have people that 379 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: want that, I mean, we had unfortunately, I think and 380 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: I believe that this was part of you know, the 381 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: leftist agenda actually was to help convince this we really 382 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: just want a neutral space. There's this idea of neutral 383 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: space in the classroom, value free teaching, that's what we're 384 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: going to do. That's a fraud. It's like value neutral journalism. 385 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: It doesn't exist. So you can either engage, as so 386 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: many in this audience know, as so many of them 387 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: do by looking at what they're teaching, what kids are 388 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: being taught, going to school board or parent teacher whatever 389 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: meetings they can you can engage, or you can allow 390 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: the other side to teach you that this country is 391 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: awful and racist and we should have a Marxist revolution 392 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: because of all the inequality, etc. Etc. And also tell 393 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: your twelve year old maybe you know, if it's a boy, 394 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: it's really a girl. All that stuff. There is no 395 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: neutral space. And so what Rohn de Santis is doing 396 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: in floor or is taking action to show that there 397 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: will be some standards in the classroom, right. I mean this, 398 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: this is very straightforward. There are certain things that the 399 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: state of Florida doesn't want children to be taught at 400 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: a certain age. That then turned into the you know, 401 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: the don't say gay bill. No, it was the can 402 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: you not tell my second grader about pan sexuality and 403 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: bottom surgery? How about that is that? And you know, 404 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: and the left and MSNBC and they all go, you know, 405 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, why is it that you're you're just 406 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: teaching No, these are little kids, you you weirdos, like, 407 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: let's leave the little kids alone. And that's and that's 408 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: why rohnd de Santis won that battle. Right, you don't 409 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: hear about that anymore. It was just extending I think 410 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: to third grade. Clay was the moratorium. What kind of 411 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: weirdoes want to teach kindergarteners about this stuff? Oh, we 412 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: all know that there are weirdos out there, and the 413 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: left is very defensive of the weirdos. So that's been 414 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: a part of this. And now at the higher levels 415 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: in high school teaching history that is meant to indoctrinate 416 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: instead of just inform and like, yeah, are there going 417 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: to be some disputes in gray areas? And you know 418 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: how much teaching of honest teaching of the history of 419 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: slavery in America is enough? Oh, there should obviously be 420 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: teaching a slavery. It's it's an evil in this country's 421 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: past and people should know about understand it. But everything 422 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: is going to be within a context. Everything in a 423 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: classroom is going to involve some level of framework, editorial guidance. 424 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: I mean there's not some Oh it's just going to 425 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: be perfect because a bunch of school board member or 426 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of school administrators say so. So I think 427 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: that's important for everyone to understand, and these were proposed APE. 428 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: This is a new AP history course, is my understanding. 429 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: And they are still determining what the guidelines of what 430 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: will taught, what will be taught will be. And that's 431 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 1: normal for states to get involved. Did you take very 432 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: many AP courses Buck I took. I entered GW George Washington, 433 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: where I went with almost a full year of college 434 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: credit because I took these AP courses for people out 435 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: there who are forgotten, not to brag graduate in three years, 436 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: not to kind of get out to draw attention to myself, 437 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: say my parents' time. I'll just throw it there that 438 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: on my full ride scholarship, every single class I took 439 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: was considered AP curriculum. So did you get credit? So 440 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: some schools won't give up. Amhurst where you went is 441 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: like an elite school, and they can't. You have to 442 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: do four years. You have to do their courses. There's 443 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: no way around that. Yeah, so a lot of kids 444 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: out there. I think you can get BUCK if I 445 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: remember A two, three, four or five on these tests, 446 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: and the idea for advanced placement if you take the 447 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: test is you can start to get college credit while 448 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: you're still in high school. Which will aiden to bet 449 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: you in terms of being able to be more flexible 450 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: when you get to college, save money potentially. But some 451 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: of these new courses that are coming on, they have 452 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: to figure out what the curriculum is going to be. 453 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: And so DeSantis, to his credit, and I think this 454 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: is where you can actually talk about de Santis will 455 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: actually get involved in the nitty gritty of what is 456 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: being taught. Like he's a history guy. He's a history 457 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: nerd like you and I who used to teach history 458 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: in high that's right. So he when he when he 459 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: sees I mean, most governors are not going to read 460 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: what the proposed AP history curriculum is for black history 461 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: in their state. DeSantis actually did it, and he said, 462 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: wait a minute, this is not this is far left 463 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: wing agenda instruction. This is not history, right, this is 464 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: the idea of inculcating the awfulness of America. And so 465 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: this is not cancel culture. It's actually what they do 466 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: for every one of these courses is figure out what 467 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: actually is included in an AP course. And the College Board, 468 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: in response to this, which sets up the you know, 469 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: these AP courses, the College Board has said that they 470 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: will address the concerns and come back with a revamped course, 471 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: and I bet that course will probably be fine. This 472 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: is not canceled culture. It's not you know, oh my gosh. 473 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: But the left has to say that because they don't 474 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: want people to realize that you don't actually have to 475 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: just let the commies teach your kids whatever they want, like, 476 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: you don't have to do that. There are other options 477 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: now in certain states at least, where you can stand 478 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: up and say, you know, enough of the madness, and look, 479 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: this is going to be yet another win for Ron 480 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: de Santiss. He's gonna end up. He's gonna end up 481 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: having stood up on this issue, and they're gonna change 482 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: the course and there's gonna I believe, in this particular 483 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: African American Studies course, there was a whole module on 484 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: on the It was called queer theory. Yes, what does 485 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: that do? Why is that a thing that I went 486 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: to college. You went to college. I never learned queer theory, 487 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: So I would I would think that at a high 488 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: school level, maybe there are more important things that students 489 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: could be learning about the history and contributions of African 490 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: Americans in this country. I think that's fair to say 491 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: I took black history at GW and along with basically 492 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: every part of American history, because that's my favorite part 493 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: of world history is American history. This is the essence 494 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: of what you would want a super plugged in governor 495 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: to do, and Buck just tying it in with the 496 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: Don't Say Gay bill that the Santists won. On a 497 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: big level, I think a lot of people on the 498 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: left were staggered by the fact that the vast majority 499 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: of American parents agreed with the Santists on very reasonable 500 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: legislation as it pertained to what kids were being taught, 501 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: including Democrats, which is that was whenny that was when 502 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: the whole MSNBC, CNN world was imploding. 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Can Great Britain be saved? 550 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: Or is it effectively on just a slide sliding path 551 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: into the answer. Can it be saved? You have to 552 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: go listen to Clay and Buck podcasting stream Buck Sexton 553 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: Show with Raheem Kassam. Go check it out there and 554 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: h Clay, you know, I see this. The good news 555 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: is we do well. We do, we are we are 556 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: we are voice athletes, you know what I mean. We've 557 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: got some We've got some sexy vocal chords. Our vocal chords, 558 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: got pipes can do we our pipes can do pushups 559 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: for days. Man, my voice has a six pack, right, Like, 560 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: this is what we like to think. But the good 561 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: news for us is that we're not just BuzzFeed writers 562 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: because Buzzfeeds CEO has announced that AI is going to 563 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: become more central to the company's content operations. Now, I'll 564 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: just say it is not surprising to me. The company 565 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: that was built on cat lists like ten Funny cat 566 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: Faces and the most BuzzFeed really was the clickbit, the 567 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: original clickbait site. Right. It was just get people to click, click, 568 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: keep going clicking, lots of you know, photos and video 569 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: and silliness. And then it tried to be like hard 570 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: hitting politics. But I'm sorry, come for the cat videos 571 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: stay for my assessment of the constitution, is not really 572 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: a brand that works over the long run. Clearly, BuzzFeed's 573 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: gotten crushed in recent years, as it deserves you. By 574 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: the way, it's another lib site of so many out there. 575 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: But chat GPT I keep hearing more and more about this. 576 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: Chat gpt is an AI program that is doing some 577 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: pretty amazing stuff. So it's it's artificial intelligence that can 578 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: write your term paper for you, right like if you 579 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: if you said chat gpt, make me a term paper 580 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: on photosynthesis, it would churn out something that kind of 581 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: looks like a like a term paper on photosynthesis. And 582 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: BuzzFeed is now saying they're going to have chat gpt 583 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: doing some of its content for the website, which will 584 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: probably be better than some of the writers they have. 585 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, this is getting a little weird. Clay, At 586 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: what point did we start to play the theme song 587 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: to Terminator in the background and talking about Skynet, I mean, 588 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: the stock doubled on Wall Street Journal reports that many 589 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: of their writers could potentially be replaced by chat gpt, 590 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: And we were talking earlier about the bar exam, for instance, 591 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: I saw a study that they put in basic prompts, 592 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, questions from law school exams, and the professors 593 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: who reviewed it said, okay, they would pass. I would 594 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: give them a C plus based on answers to questions. 595 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: And some of you out there with kids and grandkids 596 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: in school, your kids are probably ahead of you in 597 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: terms of their knowledge about this. But there's already talk buck, 598 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: particularly as it pertains to you know, kids in like seven, eight, nine, 599 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: tenth grade, that it almost eliminates the need for or 600 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: the ability to require a kid to write a paper 601 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: because chat GPT is good enough that they could get 602 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: a passing grade just by asking them, say your point 603 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: on Photosynthis says, hey, you've got to do You've got 604 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: to do a paper. Let's say we're talking about the 605 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: law earlier. You're a kid in ninth grade and you've 606 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: got to do a paper on the Battle of Gettysburg. 607 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: Instead of actually having to do all that research yourself, 608 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: you could give a prompt to chat GPT and say, hey, 609 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: I need three thousand words on why the Battle of 610 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: Gettysburg mattered so much in this scope of American history, 611 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: and almost instantaneously it would give it to you. And 612 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: it's virtually impossible to know for certain that a kid 613 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: had done this, because each of them can be unique enough. 614 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: Based on the prompts, They're not gonna be great. It's 615 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: not you're gonna get a plus work. They struggle to 616 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: create truly original thought. But in terms of basically grabbing 617 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: all of the available data and putting it all together 618 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: in one spot, it's kind of a revolutionary chatbot and 619 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: it is going to in many ways, I think change. 620 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: I saw that this. This company now has a thirty 621 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: nine billion dollar value. Microsoft just put ten billion dollars 622 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: into the company to allow them to refine this even more. 623 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: Google is terrified that this could change the way that 624 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: people search all sorts of information, So look out. This 625 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: is a It seems pretty substantial jump in terms of 626 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: technological advances. AI has been talked about a lot for 627 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: certainly the last ten years, and some would be saying 628 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: the last you know, twenty years. But it had always 629 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: been yeah, but it's not that smart. You know, yeah, 630 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: but it can't really do the things that you know. 631 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: It's it's this is getting pretty smart, you know, this 632 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: is this is starting to feel like hmm, you know, 633 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: what is it? The singularity and Ray Kurzweil, and there 634 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: are a lot of these futurist thinkers that have been 635 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: looking at what happens when the machines. You know, what 636 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: what happens to us when chat GPT is like humans 637 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: are selfish and destructive and we could do things better 638 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: than that. I'm just saying, I'm just you know, I'll 639 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: give you a positive here. People are also having a 640 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: lot of fun with it. For instance, people will say, hey, 641 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: explain the theory of relativity, but a guy keeps getting 642 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: keeps getting sidetracked to talk about how big the watermelons 643 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: that he grows are. So you end up with some 644 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: really kind of funny juxtapositions from a comedic perspective that 645 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: you can go read and kind of look at as 646 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: people are doing all these different experiments worth checking out.