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Speaker 1: From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington

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Speaker 1: Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Jetty Armstrong and Jetty Show. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, in many ways, I think of John Kennedy

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Speaker 1: and the Bay of Picks. Uh. Uh, you know, it

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Speaker 1: unfolded quickly, and uh, the president thought that everything would

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Speaker 1: be fine and that was not the case. But President

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Speaker 1: Kennedy took responsibility for what took place. And I strongly

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Speaker 1: recommend the President Biden that he take responsibility admit the

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Speaker 1: mistakes that were made. That's Leon Panetta, former Secretary Defense

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Speaker 1: and Secretary ran the CIA. Um. I'm not you know,

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Speaker 1: for domestic consumption that sort of stuff is important. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure on the global stage if any of that

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Speaker 1: matters right now. Yeah, the President is taking it from

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Speaker 1: all sides. But yeah, let's talk about the global effects.

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Speaker 1: Ian Bremmer is the president of Eurasia Group. They helped

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Speaker 1: business leaders, policy makers, and folks like us understand the

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Speaker 1: world around us. In Bremer joins us, see and how

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Speaker 1: are you sir? Hey gonna be back with you guys.

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Speaker 1: You're one of the many Twitter feeds I followed a

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Speaker 1: lot over the weekend trying to get kind of a

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Speaker 1: global perspective of this. How is the rest of the world,

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Speaker 1: whether it's the Middle East or China gonna interpret what's

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Speaker 1: happened in the last week. Oh the China. Chinese are

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Speaker 1: doing donuts right now saying the US is in decline

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Speaker 1: and if you're Taiwan, this shows you you can't trust

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Speaker 1: the Americans and we're going to take over soon. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know that they are leaning into a debacle on

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Speaker 1: The Allies, of course, are are deeply concerned because they

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Speaker 1: were not consulted. They fought with the Americans side by

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Speaker 1: side in Afghanistan for twenty years, but when it came

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Speaker 1: time to leave, that decision was made unilaterally on an

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Speaker 1: internal domestic policy review by Biden, and they're not happy

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Speaker 1: about that. UM. So know, when you're right, I'm Biden

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Speaker 1: is taking it from all sides right now. There is

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Speaker 1: no easy way to lose a war. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I do think that Biden may makes a compelling case

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Speaker 1: for why he made the decision to leave, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, a popular decision at home in the United States.

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Speaker 1: But but making that decision and then actually affecting that decision.

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Speaker 1: On the ground are two very different things, and it's

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Speaker 1: very clear from the last seventy two hours that the

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Speaker 1: United States has made some very big mistakes on the ground.

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Speaker 1: There's a tendency to make grand, grand pronouncements when something

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Speaker 1: like this occurs. It's a good way to get the

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Speaker 1: air and clicks in the rest of it. Uh, do

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Speaker 1: you think when the dust settles a year or two

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Speaker 1: major global development or just another chapter in Afghanistan's long

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Speaker 1: troubled history. It's not over yet. Um. I think that

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Speaker 1: as long as no Americans are killed as we close

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Speaker 1: this um to be a big spike in attention on

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Speaker 1: the nine eleven anniversary when the Taliban are parading all

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Speaker 1: of the American equipment material that they've stolen and you know,

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Speaker 1: the embassy's closed and Talidan flags on top of it,

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Speaker 1: and that that's gonna be bad in the United States

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Speaker 1: and globally. But that's not you know, you asked me

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Speaker 1: you know, you still have five ten thousand Americans on

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Speaker 1: forgive me if I don't trust the Taliban when they

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Speaker 1: Because if we end up with a hostage type situation

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Speaker 1: seventy nine, this will be the end of Biden's presidency.

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Speaker 1: He will he will have destroyed it. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's going to happen, but it's not like a

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's just recognize that we're still in it

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Speaker 1: right now. How How would Taiwan, for instance, not look

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Speaker 1: come to our defense. Well, there's a big difference between

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Speaker 1: to be clear, the Chinese government is very well aware

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Speaker 1: the strategic ambiguity, which is the name of that policy

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Speaker 1: that we have with taiwan Ian Bremmer, president of Eurasia Group,

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Speaker 1: What do you think they're saying in the parlors of

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Speaker 1: This is the first foreign policy crisis of his administration,

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Speaker 1: Biden is all about America is back. But let's also

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Speaker 1: be clear that China has big problems right now. The

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Speaker 1: We've got to pay attention to the rest of the world.

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Speaker 1: And the by administration's response is, actually, I'm not president

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Speaker 1: Taliban's gonna have high taxes. The Opian fathers need to

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Speaker 1: pay their fair share, beautiful, Ian Bremer, President of your

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Speaker 1: Asia Group. Ian, we always appreciate when you carve off

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes for us. Thanks a million, I

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Speaker 1: think you guess. Thanks, We've got a hundred airs and

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Speaker 1: thousand airs. I need to pay their fair share. How

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Speaker 1: I figured you bought real furniture or not the Chinese

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Speaker 1: used for use for the furniture. The key difference between

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Speaker 1: real furniture and cheap crappy furniture. Cheap crappy furniture, you

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Speaker 1: a staple. Real furniture, you are not like China. That

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Speaker 1: It's faded a little bit, but it looks like a

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Speaker 1: suicide attempt because I reached behind a cheap crappy sofa

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Speaker 1: just sliced my entire four arm open. Cheap crappy furniture China,

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