1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: We're gonna move the sticks. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 3: I'm Bucky Brooks, but I am joined. It's a special 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 3: guest of my man, Marcus Gant coming over. 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: We're doing a crossover podcast. So look, I know you 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: guys have been itching. 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: I know everyone is getting ready for their fantasy drafts, 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 3: getting ready for their fantasy season, getting ready for the 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: wild and zany fantasy bets that you have in these 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: leagues where you get tattoos. And I just saw online 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 3: where somebody had to take Winnie de Pooh to dinner 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 3: because they came in last in the league. 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: And so everyone is gearing up. 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: And Marcus, you may not notice, but you're talking to 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: a three time Fantasy League champion. 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: Oh over here from someone. 17 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: Who way back in the day on one of our 18 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: competitor sites. I used to play fantasy in the early 19 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: the early twenty tens, and I had to give it up. 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: I had to give up that narcotic because it was 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: overwhelming my Sunday life. I would and it was a 22 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 3: league that didn't lock on the weekend. So you can 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 3: imagine watching games, watching the running back go down. But 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 3: knowing that the waiver wire was still active and being 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: on your phone and picking up the handcuff right then. 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: So I had to give it up. It was overwhelming 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: my life. But look, man, it's good to have you on. 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 3: Like tell me a little bit about your fantasy journey, 29 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 3: because I'm so curious in terms of like our experts 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: and you guys, like how did you become kind of 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: like the fantasy Nordle. 32 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, this job sort of found me more than 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: I found It really really was the case. I had 34 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: been working in radio for a long time. My radio 35 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: job had sort of dried up. I was kind of unemployed. 36 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: A former co worker suggested that I just apply to 37 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: jobs at the NFL. They were always looking for people seasonally, 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: and no, Lie. I just went to like NFL dot 39 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: com slash jobs or whatever it was, and I applied 40 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: for like five or six things, most of which I 41 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: wasn't even qualified for nothing. This was twenty eleven, so 42 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: the lockout was happening. Nobody knew if there was going 43 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: to be a season. I kind of forgot about it 44 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 1: because nothing happened for a couple of months. I got 45 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: a phone call from Michael Fabiano who was the Fantasy 46 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: lead at the time, asked me if I wanted an 47 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: interview for a job writing about fantasy football, and I 48 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: was like, does it pay? And he's like yeah, and 49 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: I'm like sure, So I went in did the interview. 50 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks later, I remember turning on the 51 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: TV and seeing the news that the lockout was over, 52 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 1: and a couple hours after that, I got a call saying, hey, 53 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: you got the job, you know, come on in sign 54 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: the paperwork and so August will make twelve years. I mean, 55 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: I started off kind of as a seasonal employee. The 56 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: first two seasons. I would work from like August to 57 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: about March, and then they would send me out into 58 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: the wilderness for five months and bring me back, you know. 59 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: And then finally after two seasons of that, they finally 60 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: gave me a full time gig, you know. And I've 61 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: been lucky to sort of just work my way up 62 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: from just being basically a copy editor to doing some 63 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: podcast hits, to you know, now getting to host the 64 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: podcast on Fantasy Live. And yeah, I'm getting ready to 65 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: start my twelfth year come August at the NFL. 66 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: That is so bananas. 67 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: I joined NFL Media in two thousand and nine, and 68 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: so you just talked about like the many iterations of 69 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: NFL media, the explosion of fantasy football, and look, I 70 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: think it's a perfect time to have you on because 71 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: so many things are bubbling up around the league. When 72 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: it comes to like fantasy daily, fantasy has a different 73 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 3: strategy and than what you would do like over a season, 74 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: and so like when you learn and you just kind 75 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: of leaned and first got asked, were you a fantasy 76 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: football player before you joined the NFL back in twenty 77 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: and eleven. 78 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Not seriously. I just played sort of socially, kind of casually. 79 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: It was a way to you know, at the time 80 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: for a while, I was living in the Central Valley 81 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: in Fresno, and it was a good way to meet 82 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: people and kind of make friends in the city. I 83 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: didn't know anybody. I played in the league with guys 84 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: from high school because it was just a way to 85 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: keep up with guys I didn't see on the regular. 86 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: But no, I was never playing it in a serious way. 87 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: In fact, I don't even if I should tell this, 88 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: but my first year I was there, we had a 89 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: league amongst a bunch of the digital editors just kind 90 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: of a fun casual league. I went, oh for the season. 91 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: Yes, that's okay, that's okay. 92 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: I've had those moments sometimes you get it's the lucky 93 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: to draw. Draft is off and you just can't get 94 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 3: it going. 95 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: That is funny. So now here's my thing. 96 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 3: Because everyone has their own strategies when it comes to 97 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 3: drafting players and building the team. What is the number 98 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: one thing? Imagine I'm a newbie, I've never played fantasy 99 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: What is the number one thing that I would need 100 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: to think about if I'm building a fantasy football team. 101 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: The one thing I would just tell you is don't 102 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: because I think the number one mistake for new players is, Hey, 103 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: quarterbacks score the most points. So that's the first guy 104 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: I should draft, right, Don't do that, you know. And 105 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: I go back to, like, the first time I ever 106 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: played fantasy football, I was like, I think it was 107 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four. I was in college. The first guy 108 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: I ever drafted was Dan Marino. But you know, at 109 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: that time, we didn't know better. I mean, that was 110 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: just kind of what you did, you know. So don't 111 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: necessarily spend your first round pick on a quarterback if 112 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: you are brand new. Look at a top notch running 113 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: back or a top level wide receivers probably the way 114 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: to go early in your drafts. 115 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: So no, it's funny. 116 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 3: So the team building process, because you know DJ and 117 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 3: I like on Mood the Sticks, we always talk about 118 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: team building. So this is a perfect opportunity to do 119 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 3: team building. But in the fantasy world. And so if 120 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: you're saying, like, so in whatever reality, if we're building 121 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: a team, it's quarterback's past rushers, it's playmakers, and then 122 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 3: its past protectors. 123 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: Is kind of how you build it out. 124 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: So now you're telling me from a fantasy standpoint, you're 125 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: thinking running backs and pass catchers. What are some other 126 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: things that we need to know if we're trying to 127 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: build an ideal team that can buy for championships in fantasy. 128 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: I think one of the other things that has become 129 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: apparent the last few years is it it pays to 130 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: go get yourself a top level tight end. It's a 131 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: position where you only start one depending and mostly you 132 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: only start one tight end, and there are right now 133 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: maybe seven or eight guys that you can feel confident 134 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: with on a week to week basis, right Like Travis 135 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: Kelcey is still the king among tight ends. But then 136 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, just below him, you got guys like Mark 137 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: Andrews and TJ. Hawkinson, you know, George Kittle, Kyle Pitts. 138 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: But there are really only about eight guys that that 139 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: you feel like, you know, can give you decent scoring 140 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: on a week to week basis. After that, it's just 141 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: a grab bag and you're sort of, you know, if 142 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: you're beyond that, you're just kind of praying that your 143 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: guy gets you a touchdown each and every week. And 144 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: that's kind of a hard way to live. So it 145 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: really is. So it's worth. It's worth, you know, maybe 146 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: in that third or fourth round, you know, maybe fourth 147 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: or fifth round, I'll say, take a look at getting 148 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: yourself a quality tight end because it's just it's just 149 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: one less headache you'll have when you're setting your lineup 150 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: every week. 151 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 3: Okay, so let's say so in most traditional leagues we 152 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: have how many running backs, like like two running running backs? Yeah, 153 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: two running backs, two wide receivers a tight end. Is 154 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: there a flex included in that? 155 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: Or most leagues mostly will have a flex, which you know, 156 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: if you don't, if you're not familiar with it, it it 157 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: allows you to you can either play a running back 158 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: or a wide receiver. Sometimes you can play a tight 159 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: end in your flex spot. Uh, but usually it's just 160 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: it's a running back wide receiver. So you can take 161 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 1: you know, a third player at that position. 162 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: Okay, So in thinking about that, let's talk about running backs. 163 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: So for you from a fantasy standpoint, what are we 164 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: looking at to be an RB one in fantasy? Are 165 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: we looking at a guy that compels a bunch of 166 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: rushing yards, someone that gets like a bunch of receiving yards, 167 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: a touchdown, vulture that just around the goal line? 168 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: Like, what are the characteristics that we're looking for in 169 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: at RB one. 170 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: It's a guy that you know is going to be 171 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: on the field a lot and he's going to get 172 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: the ball alot, whether it's as a rusher or as 173 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: a receiver. I mean, you know right now, when you 174 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: look at the top running backs in fantasy football, uh, 175 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, because he's always on the field and he's 176 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: going to get a lot of carries. He's also going 177 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: to catch the football. Austin Eckler sort of a similar 178 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: thing there. You know, one of the guys that's at 179 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: RB one that sort of breaks them all, Derrick Henry 180 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: doesn't catch the ball quite as much as some of 181 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: these other guys, but you know he's gonna get a 182 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: lot of carries and you know that when he's right, 183 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: Derek Henry's gonna get you, you know, probably fifteen hundred 184 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: rushing yards is going to get you, you know, ten touchdowns. 185 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: So he's just kind of a monster. Nick Chubb is 186 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: another guy like that where he doesn't necessarily catch it 187 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: a ton. He'll catch it just enough to kind of, 188 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, be viable, but he's gonna get you a 189 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: lot in the Russian sphere. So yeah, and you know 190 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: this the the workhorse running back as a genre is 191 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: sort of dying right now. But those guys that you 192 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: know are going to be playing, you know, seventy eighty 193 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: or more percent of the snaps, they are going to 194 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: be getting twenty to thirty touches per game. Those are 195 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: the guys that you really want to target early in 196 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: your draft, you know. 197 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: And I know this has to be the part that 198 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: is frustrating in fantasy because to me is frustrated as 199 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 3: an old school football fan, they're running back committee. They're 200 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: running back by committee situation, the Shanahan system where man 201 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: one guy goes bonkers one week. 202 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: In the next week, he like where is he? 203 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: How do you navigate when you're trying to pick the 204 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 3: running backs that you want on your team? 205 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: How much do you. 206 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: Consider the committee situation and the uncertainty of the touches 207 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: that they may get on the week the. 208 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: Week basis, Yeah, it's hard. I will say that because 209 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: it's becoming more prevalent across the league. We've gotten more 210 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: practice at trying to navigate that situation, and for a 211 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: lot of teams it's become easier because there's sort of 212 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: a division of labor. Right, you have that guy that 213 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: you know is going to be kind of the running back, right, 214 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: he's going to be the traditional maybe between the tackles back. 215 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: He's the guy who gets short yardage maybe goal line situations. 216 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: And then you'll have that guy who's more of your 217 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: change of pace, maybe you're pass catching back. I mean, 218 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: I think a good example of that last year, for instance, 219 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: was in Detroit, where you know, Jamal Williams was kind 220 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: of the hammer, scored a ton of touchdowns, and you 221 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: had DeAndre Swift who was kind of more your speedback. 222 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: You catched the football, and both those guys found a 223 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: way to prosper in that back. I mean, the Browns 224 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: did it a couple of years ago with Nick Chubb 225 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: and Kareem Hunt. So we started to kind of figure 226 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: it out. I will say this, we like, we can 227 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: deal with two running back committee. If it's just two 228 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: guys rotating through. You can deal with it. When there's 229 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: a third guy that gets into the mix, and then 230 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: it becomes a complete headache. And then, as you mentioned 231 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,359 Speaker 1: the Shanahan family in general, first it was Mike Shanahan, 232 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: now it's Kyle Shanahan. You know, Adam Rant came up 233 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: with a term called Shanahan against because you just never 234 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: really knew what they were going to do on a 235 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: week to week basis. So they were sort of the outlier. 236 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: But for most coaches, we've kind of figured out how 237 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: they use their backs, and that's that's given us gives 238 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: us an idea of how to draft those backs. 239 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: So if running backs one of the marquis positions, wide 240 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: receiver is certainly the one where people are just loading 241 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: up and we're seeing a league now where they're just 242 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: throwing it all over the yard. We're talking about twenty 243 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 3: to twenty five guys having a thousand yard seasons, stuff 244 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: like that. So what is it that you're looking for 245 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: in a number one receiver on your fantasy lineup? 246 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: A lot of targets, A lot a lot of targets, 247 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean, like right now in a lot of leagues. 248 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: Don't be surprised if Justin Jefferson is the number one 249 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: overall pick this year and in a lot of the 250 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: early Now, mind you, like the folks that I'm drafting 251 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: with right now, are you know kind of like me? 252 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: They're kind of sickos who've been drafting for a long time. 253 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: But you know, in a lot of these drafts, it's 254 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: not uncommon to see six seven wide receivers come off 255 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: the board in the first round, whereas maybe five years 256 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: ago it was, you know, six or seven running backs 257 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: in a handful of wide receivers. So like the guys 258 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: like Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Cooper Cup, you know, even 259 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: Devonte Adams still has some first round value, Stefan Diggs. 260 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: These are guys that you know, are the alphas in 261 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: their passing games. It helps if they play in an 262 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: offense that throws the ball a lot, but either way, 263 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: if you can look at a guy and say that 264 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: you know reasonably believe he's gonna get you one hundred 265 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: and thirty one hundred and fifty targets. Those are the 266 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: guys that are probably gonna be gone in the first 267 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: round or early part of the second round in your draft. 268 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: So fantasy is matching reality because we are seeing the 269 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: league has shifted to a past centric focus where it's 270 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: about the quarterback and the playment. Look at who's getting 271 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: paid quarterbacks, wide receivers. The running backs have fallen by 272 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: the wayside. They're no longer the marquee player on offense. 273 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 3: They're not getting paid like that. And so we're seeing 274 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: a match up and so now you're talking about targets 275 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: in that when you're looking at it getting a wide receiver, 276 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: do you worry about his supporting cast? Do you want 277 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: someone who doesn't have a complimentary weapon, or do you 278 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 3: want him to kind of be the standalone figure. So 279 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: think about DeAndre Hopkins for years and Houston was like 280 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: a one man's show. We want do we want the 281 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: one man's show or do we want someone that may 282 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: have a compliment on the other side to take some 283 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: of the pressure away from him so he can get 284 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: one on one. 285 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: I think it's this is where it sort of depends 286 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: on the offense and the quarterback in particular. Like I 287 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: immediately think of Cincinnati right where Jamar Chase is there. 288 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: T Higgins can still thrive in that offense along with 289 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: them because the Bengals are gonna throw the ball a lot. 290 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: A guy like Joe Burrow can go out and support 291 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: multiple pass catchers. You know, I think you see the same. 292 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: I think you could in Buffalo. They don't really have 293 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: another guy beyond Stefan Diggs that but I think Josh 294 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: Allen could support multiple guys. Patrick Mahomes can you know 295 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: right now they just lean on Travis Kelcey. But you 296 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: look at other offenses like DeAndre Hopkins going to Tennessee, 297 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that they can support a whole lot 298 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: of guys there. So Hopkins is going to get his 299 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: He's for sure going to eat The question is, you know, 300 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: how much does that impact a guy like Treylon Burks 301 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: or you know a lot of us like you know 302 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: chig o'conquo as kind of a sleeper tied end. Is 303 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: that offense built to funnel enough targets to all three 304 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: of those guys can they all be successful when you 305 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: know you still got to get Derek Henry his touches. 306 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: You've got Ryan Tannehill at quarterback, who is fine. I mean, 307 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: he's sort of oatmeal when it comes to quarterbacks. He's 308 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: not special. He's not gonna kill you, but he's nothing 309 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: special either. So that looks like an offense where it 310 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: looks like it'll be Andre Hopkins eating a lot and 311 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: everybody else sort of fighting for whatever's left over in 312 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: the passing game. 313 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 314 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 3: No, it is funny how when you're making those decisions 315 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: in fantasy, if you can kind of put the pieces 316 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: of the puzzle together and trying to figure out, like, okay, 317 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 3: if he's the number one, does he have enough to 318 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: prevent the team from double teamy him. DeAndre Hopkins, you 319 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: would like to think he's gonna get a lot of targets, 320 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: not only because they don't have an established target, but 321 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: you still have to worry about Derrick Henry. And so 322 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: now when you think of like, hey, he's gonna get 323 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: one on one, maybe he's getting eight to ten a 324 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: game even though he can't run. Maybe he's able to 325 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: put some points up touchdowns in those things. And so 326 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: as I think about that, because you told me I 327 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: got two maybe three slots for my wide receivers. So 328 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 3: in a perfect world, in both of those slots, I 329 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: have two number ones. But now let's say all the 330 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: number ones are gone. What am I looking for in 331 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: an ideal number two wide receiver. 332 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: You're looking for a guy who's gonna get a decent 333 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: number of targets. You know, it would be nice if 334 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: you can find maybe a red zone threat or somebody 335 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: like that. You know, a good a good number two 336 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: that immediately jumps to mind to me is Mike Williams 337 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: with the Chargers, who's you know, a good downfield threat, 338 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: kind of a contested catch guy and a big target 339 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: when they get near the end zone right like you know, 340 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: justin Herbert will probably be looking in his direction he 341 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: has really good number two wide receiver upside, or just 342 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: a guy in an offense that again is gonna spread 343 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: the ball around. A guy that I've sort of liked 344 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: in a lot of drafts this year is Brandon Ayuk 345 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: in San Francisco, who you know, everybody looks at Deebo 346 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: Samuel understandably. I mean, Deebo is incredibly multi talented, but 347 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: last year it was Ayuk that led that team in 348 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: receptions and receiving yards, and all the drum beats out 349 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: of San Francisco right now say that Ayuk just looks 350 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: like a different guy. It's like he's completely bought into 351 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: the system. And weirdly, I know we always talk about 352 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: targets and rout ring and that sort of thing. Buying 353 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: into the system for Kyle Shanahan, for brand Ayuk meant blocking. 354 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: It just meant actually putting an effort out and blocking 355 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: when the ball wasn't coming to you or when they 356 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: were running. And I think so now that he sort 357 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: of understood that as an important part of his job, 358 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: he's getting more opportunities in the passing game. And you know, 359 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: you know this is coming out of Arizona State. Was 360 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: an incredibly talented guy, great after the catch, and he's 361 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: the guy that is sneakily. You know, he's kind of 362 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: hanging around in like the fifth or sixth round and 363 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: wherever I have a chance, I'm trying to draft him 364 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: as my second wide receiver. 365 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: Man. That is so great. It's funny you talked about Ayuk. 366 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: Mike Williams, I think another one who fascinates me is 367 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: what do you categorize like Jalen Waddle? Is Waddle like 368 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 3: a number one? Do you treat him like a number two? 369 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill as the guy talking about going for two 370 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: thousand yards? And so I mean, what does that dudes? Like, 371 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: what would you do when you're trying to think about 372 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: a Jalen Waddle? Is he someone that you draft high? 373 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: Or what do you feel like you can get him? 374 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: You have to draft him fairly, probably a little higher 375 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: than you would Ayuk, But I think he's he's sort 376 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: of in that fringe low wide receiver one, high wide 377 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: receiver two. But you're right, like you know Tyreek Hill 378 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: is going to He's going to be the main the 379 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: main target there. But I think the other part of 380 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: it is it's a passing offense that is mostly funneled 381 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: through the those two guys, and so, uh that gives 382 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: Waddle a lot of value. I mean the fact that 383 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: you know you can't teach speed and they've got a 384 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: track team down there in Miami between those two receivers 385 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: and the running backs, that helps. So you know, if 386 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: Tua can just get him out in space and let 387 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: him run, he can pick up those after the catchyards 388 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: he can find his way into the end zone. So 389 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: he really is kind of that that high end wide 390 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: receiver too. It's just because I think right now everybody's 391 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: so excited about the Dolphins offense. Uh, the draft price 392 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: has gone up on him a little bit. 393 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you talk about the draft price going up now. 394 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 3: One of the things that I love when I watch 395 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: Fantasy Live is I think I think it's the hype train. 396 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 2: Get to go on or whatever. 397 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: So like the funny part of the off season is like, 398 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: everybody looks great, everybody's there, the buzzes on that you 399 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 3: talked about a yuk or whatever. Who are some of 400 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 3: the guys that are on the hype train that I 401 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 3: need to jump on, Uh, that we think might have 402 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: breakout years or bigger than anticipated roles heading to the season. 403 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: Well, Bijon Robinson is the first one on the list. 404 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: And you know, every year we seem to get you know, 405 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: one or two rookies, usually running backs that everybody loves, 406 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: and Bijon everybody thinks he's gonna go to the moon. 407 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: The problem with that is that means you've got to 408 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: spend a first round pick on Bijon. He's coming off 409 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: the board right around like eight or nine overall in 410 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: a lot of leagues because it's sort of that that 411 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: perfect match of talent, you know, being the top running 412 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 1: back in this draft class, in a situation in an 413 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: offense that wants to run the football a ton, you know, 414 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith just wants to just run the hell out 415 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: of the ball, and then occasionally they will use him 416 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: as a pass catcher. I know they've talked about maybe 417 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: putting him in the slot every once in a while 418 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: to get him some targets there. So everybody loves Bijon Robinson. 419 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: You know another guy that is getting a lot of hype. 420 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: If you are in the the you know of the 421 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: mind to draft a second quarterback, Anthony Richardson. People love 422 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: him just because the rushing upside. And I mean one 423 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: of the things with quarterbacks now is we want quarterbacks 424 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: that can run with the football. That's why you know, 425 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: two of the top three guys off the board our 426 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and Josh Allen, because they're going to give 427 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: you that rushing upside. It's why people love justin fields. 428 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: He's getting drafted as a top five guy. And so 429 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: while we are all still unsure what Anthony Richardson can 430 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: be as a passer. We're pretty confident he can put 431 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 1: together you know, eight nine hundred yards on the ground. 432 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: If he can get you six to eight rushing touchdowns, 433 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: that gives you a pretty solid floor. And then if 434 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: he turns out to be a better passer than we 435 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: anticipate in year one, all of that ends up just 436 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: being a bonus. So he's that guy that for me, 437 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna wait out, I might take Richardson and 438 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: then I'll come back around and I'll grab like a 439 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: Geno Smith or a Kirk Cousins just to kind of 440 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: give me that insurance, that cushion at the quarterback spot. 441 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: But everybody loves them some Anthony Richardson in drafts right now. 442 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 3: So it's so funny how the league is kind of evolved, 443 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 3: right It went from being a passing league, and it's 444 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: still a passing league, but now we we love to 445 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: duel threat quarterback and in fantasy we've always loved it. 446 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: I remember the Cam Newton here when Cam Newton was 447 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: MVP and just a scoring machine. 448 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: And how y'all were rave about it. 449 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: And so now we have this collection of these athletic 450 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 3: quarterbacks right. You alluded to Jalen Hurts, Justin Fields, Josh Allen. 451 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 3: But the guy that I have, what do we do 452 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 3: with Lamar Jackson? Like, are we big on Lamar Jackson? 453 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: Are we pausing on Lamar Jackson? What are your thoughts 454 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 3: on Lamar Jackson? 455 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: Now? 456 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: We're big on Lamar Jackson this year? You know it 457 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: one once we got past all the contract drama and 458 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: he in Baltimore decided to kiss and makeup and everybody's 459 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: happy again. That took a big load, I think, off 460 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: of everybody's mind. And now with Todd Monkin there, I 461 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: think we're expecting that this offense is going to be 462 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 1: a little bit more aggressive through the air than it 463 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: has been in the past. Now, I'm still sort of 464 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: skeptical on the pass catchers. You know, you hope a 465 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: guy like Rashad Bateman is healthy. We'll see what Odell 466 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: has left in the tank there. I mean, we know 467 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews is still going to get plenty of looks 468 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: in that offense. But you take you know, Lamar and 469 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: his rushing ability with a play caller that I think 470 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: wants to take more vertical shots. Everybody loves Lamar and 471 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: I have seen you. I've seen him go as high 472 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: as maybe being the third quarterback off the board. Right now, 473 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: he's on average about the fifth quarterback taken. But I 474 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: think everybody is very much back in on Lamar Jackson 475 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: this year. 476 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of buzz about Lamar Jackson because 477 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 3: of all the playmakers around him, and people are super 478 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 3: excited about that. You talked about Anthony Richison because typically 479 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: when it comes to rooky quarterbacks, people are. 480 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: Kind of like, I don't know or whatever. But when 481 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: you listen to the people down. 482 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: In Carolina talk about Bryce Young and they talking about 483 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 3: how he has it and some of the firepower that 484 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: he has around him, and they think this team can 485 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 3: be a playoff team. 486 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 2: What are we to do with Bryce Young? 487 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: When it comes to fantasy, Bryce Young is very much 488 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: kind of a late round kind almost a dart throw, right. 489 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: I think if you play dynasty league football, where you 490 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: draft a player, you have him over several years, Bryce 491 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: Young was being drafted fairly early, kind of a first 492 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: round pick and a lot of rookie drafts. But I 493 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: think in regular redraft leagues, everybody's taking a more cautious approach, 494 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: and I think in part because, as you mentioned, of 495 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: the cast around him, that you know, Carolina is sort 496 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: of putting a patchwork together of guys who were sort 497 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: of cast offs from their previous teams, maybe getting a 498 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: little bit older. You know, I don't know what it's 499 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: gonna look like when you know, if potentially Adam Feelin 500 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: and older Adam Feelin is the number one target in 501 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: this offense, you know, what does Miles Sanders have to 502 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: offer after the Eagles decided they were going to move 503 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: on from him. So I think that alone kind of 504 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: has everybody being cautious. I will say in some of 505 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: the drafts, early drafts I've done, I have taken him 506 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: kind of in the double digit rounds just because, hey man, 507 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: who knows, maybe he really does blossom in year one. 508 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: But I think everybody is sort of looking at year 509 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: two and beyond to see what Bryce Young can really be. 510 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: Okay, so we've talked about the hype trained and the 511 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 3: guys we're excited about. 512 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 2: Well, now I'm gonna put on my. 513 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 3: Hater hat and we're gonna talk about some guys like 514 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: Marcus who who are the overrated? Let's start with to 515 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 3: quarterbacks first. Who's the overrated quarterback that people are expecting 516 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 3: big things. But you're like, I'm not digging this person. 517 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think when it comes to 518 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: overrated quarterbacks, I don't know. Well, I'll say this, and 519 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: this is not a guy that's getting drafted normally. But 520 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: this is just kind of funny. Is that a lot 521 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: of people were taking shots at Trey Lance early on 522 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: in draft season and I didn't get it because everything 523 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: the Niner said pointed to Bryce to pro perty being 524 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: this the starting quarterback when he was healthy and ready 525 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: to go. I will say this, I think by this 526 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: time we've kind of gotten good at drafting quarterbacks. I'm 527 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: not sold on Kenny Pickett. I think people are trying 528 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: to tell me a story where Kenny Pickett takes a 529 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: big step forward this year. I'm not completely on board 530 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: with that. I like Justin Fields, but I think my 531 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: fear with him is that he's closer to his ceiling 532 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: than maybe we believe him to be. Oh, the other guy, 533 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: I guess Daniel Joe speaking of closer to the ceiling, 534 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: I think we see I think we saw the best 535 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: of Daniel Jones. 536 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: Oh fifteen and five is the best forty million forty 537 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: five million gets me fifteen and five and that that's 538 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: the best of. 539 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: You know, Like, here's for fantasy where I'm drafting Daniel Jones. 540 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be fine for my fantasy team. 541 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: I think the Giants have put themselves in football purgatory 542 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: by giving him this much money, Like they are just 543 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: gonna be stuck in, Like they're gonna be that team 544 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: that either you know, they make the playoffs and probably 545 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: get bounced in the first round, or they're just on 546 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: the outside looking in and they're gonna be in that 547 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: middle range of draft picks where they like aren't gonna 548 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: get anybody to really make themselves better because they've handcuffed 549 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: themselves to Daniel Jones. 550 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: Right now, I can't go Like my affiliation with the Jaguars, 551 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 3: I'm really excited about Trevor Lawrence. 552 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 2: Like I'm hoping that you share that sentiment. 553 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 3: How do you feel about Trevor Lawrence and really the 554 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 3: offensive playmakers on that team. How do you feel about 555 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: like their chances of kind of busting out into fantasy world? 556 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: Love them, love love the Jaguars, especially love Trevor Lawrence, 557 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: Love Calvin Ridley. I mean the fact that they were 558 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: able to get him and now and plug him into 559 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: an offense that was very good. Last year, they've re 560 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: upped with Evan Ingram. You know, they got a lot 561 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: out of Christian Kirkins d Jones last year. I love 562 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. My only hesitation with the pass catchers is 563 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: just that there are so many of them that you know, 564 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: how do they split the pie a little bit? So 565 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: I think I think if you draft a Jaguars pass catcher, 566 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: it could be frustrating week to week because you know, 567 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: one week it might be the Calvin Ridley week, one 568 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: week it might be the Christian kirk week. Then it 569 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: might be you know, Travis Etn or Evan Ingram. So 570 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: that part's going to be frustrating. But in the end, 571 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, the guy delivering the football, Trevor Lawrence. You 572 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: know he's going to get his yards as touchdowns his point. 573 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: So I absolutely love Trevor Lawrence. I think he's like 574 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: the QB seven or eight right now, and I think 575 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: that's a really good spot for him. 576 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: Well, look, this is a really good spot. So what 577 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 3: we're gonna do is we're gonna take a break. We're 578 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 3: gonna pall us for a minute. I got some more 579 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: questions on the other side of the spring. All right, Marcus, 580 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: coming back. Now, Look, man, I told you like this 581 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 3: is like I feel so fortunate that I have a 582 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 3: personal fantasy football. 583 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: Coach, so I know I'm gonna crush my league and 584 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: all this stuff. 585 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 3: So I got I got a list of some other 586 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: questions that I kind of want to get out there. 587 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 3: And so we talked about the quarterbacks. We've talked about 588 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 3: the pass catches and those things. I think we've talked 589 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: a little bit about sleepers. But because it's just you 590 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: and I and no one else is really around, Like, 591 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 3: give me a handful of sleepers that are like must 592 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: haves in the fantasy world. 593 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: So one guy, I don't even know if he's a sleeper, 594 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: but it's just a guy that everybody seems to every 595 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: day they want to write off, Tyler Lockett, and I 596 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: don't understand it. You know, like every year people say 597 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: that it's the end for Tyler Lockett. And you know, 598 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: in the end, he catches you know, eighty passes, he 599 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: gets you eleven hundred yards, he gets you six to 600 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: eight touchdowns. Who wants that? I don't know. Not Yeah, 601 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: It's just it just doesn't seem to make sense the 602 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: way people are sort of talking down on him every 603 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: single year. I also like cam Akers as a sleeper 604 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: this year. And somebody last year referred to cam Akers 605 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: and Sean McVay as sort of the Ross and Rachel 606 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: of the NFL because they were sort of on again, 607 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: off again sort of thing. But I think by the 608 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: time they got to the end of the year, the 609 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: Rams realized he was their best running back. Right Daryl 610 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: Henderson sort of faded away, they tried Kyron Williams, and 611 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: no matter what they did, they realized cam Akers was 612 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: their best option. And so this year, I think they're 613 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: just leading with that. There's nobody else on that depth 614 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: chart that's going to really take any opportunities away from him. 615 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: So I think I think I think cam Akers is 616 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: in for a big year. I mentioned Brandon Ayuk, I 617 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: like James Cook in Buffalo. You know, I think we 618 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: saw near the end of the year last year they 619 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: started to really get him more involved in that offense, 620 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: and I think I like the fact that they can 621 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: use him as a pass catcher. They kept bringing in 622 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: pass catching running backs last year but never throwing them 623 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: the ball, like you know, they they brought in Naim 624 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: Heins and they wouldn't throw in the football and none of 625 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: us understood why that happened. But I think I think 626 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: James Cook has got to kind of take over that role. 627 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: And then the last one at quarterback, you talked about 628 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: Jaylen Waddle and Tyreek Hill. I mean, I think as 629 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: long as Tuus stays healthy, I think big things are 630 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: in the works for Tua Tungua Bailoa. I mean last 631 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: year when he was healthy, he was playing good football 632 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: and then unfortunately the concussions sort of derailed the season. 633 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 1: But I think as long as the offensive line can 634 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: keep him upright, with those pass catchers there, with Mike 635 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: McDaniels sort of operating the switches at that offense, I 636 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: think Ta can have a really big year. 637 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: Man. He can absolutely have a really big year. But 638 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: you talk about watching if he's your fantasy quarterback. Man, 639 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: you talk about just putting yourself through angst every week 640 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 3: every time he draws back to pass, and if someone 641 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: gets close to him, like you're holding your breath saying, man, 642 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: I hope my guys able to get up and kind 643 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 3: of bounce back. It is a very interesting thing. Oh, 644 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: I think what's interesting Sean Payton, Russell Wilson. What do 645 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: we think about the Broncos offense, not only about Russ, 646 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 3: but what about Jerry Judy camp. 647 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: How do we feel about their their playmakers? 648 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 1: I will say this the obviously the bet in Denver 649 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: is you know, I guess the question for the Broncos 650 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: and their fans are will Russ cook? Or is Russ cooked? 651 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: And I am betting that I'm gonna say he's not 652 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: quite cooked yet. That that, you know, Sean Payton's gonna 653 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: find a way to get some more out of him. 654 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: We all love Jerry Judy, and especially because he's sort 655 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: of a mid round guy. You don't have to pay 656 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: a big draft price to get Jerry Judy. I think 657 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: the arrow is pointing up for him very much. You know, 658 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton is the guy that I've kind of liked, 659 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: but it hasn't quite happened yet, and I'm not sure 660 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: if it is. I think I think at this point 661 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: he sort of is who he is. You know, he's 662 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: a nice for fantasy at least, probably a third wide 663 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: receiver for you. You know, he'll give you some decent weeks. 664 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: But I don't think he's ever gonna blossom into that 665 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: big time playmaker that that we thought he could be 666 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: when he was coming out of college. The other big 667 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: question for me is how ready is Javonte Williams, you know, 668 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: because last year we all loved him, and I remember 669 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: there was a point when we weren't sure if Melvin 670 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: Gordon was coming back to Denver and we were talking 671 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: about Javonte Williams as a high first round draft pick. 672 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: That all changed once Gordon, you know, re signed in 673 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: Denver what have you. And then unfortunately Williams gets hurt 674 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: with that that major knee injury. Now he's saying he's 675 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: gonna be ready to go. The Broncos are sounding optimistic 676 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: about it, and so that's cool, But I mean, you've 677 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: seen guys with knee injuries like that. It usually takes 678 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: them a while to sort of get back into the 679 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: flow of things. So I want to see I love 680 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: Javonte coming out of North Carolina. I kind of liked 681 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: what he can do. But at the same time, they 682 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: also have samaj p Ryan as a nice sort of 683 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: insurance policy, who can catch the football, who can get 684 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: some of those hard yards for you. So I'm drafting Javante, 685 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: but I'm drafting him sort of as a third or 686 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: fourth running back, where if if he does come back 687 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: healthy and is ready to go, then I feel really 688 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: great about my running back situation. And if it takes 689 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 1: him a while to kind of get back up to speed, 690 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: then you know, I haven't I haven't risked a lot 691 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: in draft capital. I've got, you know, to hopefully two 692 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: or three other guys ahead of him that I can 693 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: feel confident in starting. 694 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 3: Okay, so this may be unpopular, but we've kind of 695 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: gone through all the marquee positions in fantasy. I have 696 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: to ask you, are kickers value valuable in fantasy? Is 697 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: there a place for the kicking game? Do we care 698 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 3: about that? Do we just grab somebody at the end 699 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 3: of the draft and throw them in there? Is there 700 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 3: a strategy when it comes to acquiring a kicker in 701 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 3: the fantasy world. 702 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: So I still think there's a place for kickers in 703 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: the game, but increasingly leagues are sort of doing away 704 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: with that. You know a lot of leagues now are 705 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: doing away with kickers and adding an extra flex spot. 706 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: But I'm like, you know, kickers are people too, right, Yeah, 707 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: feelings they have souls like let's let's let's involve them. Uh. 708 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: That being said, it is very rare that I draft 709 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: a kicker. You know, I will. I will spend those 710 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: last few rounds maybe taking you know, a rookie that 711 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: I think has a chance to get on the field, 712 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: or just kind of a younger player that has some upside, 713 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: maybe a chance to make plays. Now, chances are, when 714 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: it gets to Week one and I got to set 715 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: my lineup, that last round pick is probably the first 716 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: guy I'm going to cut, so I can add a kicker. 717 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: But you know, hey, maybe you draft a guy and 718 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: then you hear some news, you know, leading up to 719 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: week one about him getting more reps or you know, 720 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: you don't ever wish for injury, but maybe the guy 721 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: in front of him gets hurt and suddenly there's gonna 722 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: be a lot more snap So it's worth doing that. 723 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 1: So I still believe it kickers. I still think it's cool. Weirdly, 724 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: I actually play in something because you know, I do this, 725 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: and I play in a lot of weird leagues. I 726 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: play in some where they have tweaked the kicker scoring 727 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: to make it so like you were actually sort of 728 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: intrigued about drafting kickers. I'm in a slow draft now, 729 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like looking around, like, huh, I'm in around 730 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: like thirteen of this slow draft. Maybe a couple of 731 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: rounds I might look at Justin Tucker or somebody like that, 732 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: because you know, like he might score more than some 733 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: other team's third wide receiver. 734 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 3: Okay, so if we talk about kickers, now, we got 735 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: to talk about defense. 736 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: Do I draft a defense or do I just sign 737 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 2: one off the waiver wire? Like, what are your strategies 738 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: when it comes to defense? 739 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: No, I still think it's worth drafting a defense because 740 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: you still have yours at your elite ones kind of 741 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: at the top, right. You know that San Francisco, Philadelphia 742 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: for instance, those teams you know, I think Dallas another 743 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: one that those are those are gonna be teams that 744 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: are going to do well for you. You know, obviously on 745 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: by weeks you're gonna have to make the switch out. 746 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: But I still think there's a value in drafting a defense. 747 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: And the two things I look at when when going 748 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: after a defense, can you get sacks and can you 749 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: force turnovers? Those are the two things that are mostly 750 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: going to get you points in fantasy. There for your defense. 751 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: So that's you know, that's why I talk about Dallas, right, 752 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: They've got pass rushers, Philly's got pass rushers. You know, 753 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: the Niners can can turn the ball over for you. 754 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: So those are the things you want. The weird quirk 755 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: about defenses though, is that you know, every year there's 756 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: always one or two that were great the year before 757 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: that completely fall off a cliff and vice versa. There 758 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: will be one or two that were kind of awful 759 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: last year and either they got a new coordinator, or 760 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: they drafted a piece or two or added somebody in 761 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: free agency that completely turns it around. So that is 762 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,479 Speaker 1: one of the more I think fluid positions year to year. 763 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: But I still think it's you're better off drafting one 764 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: sort of in the later rounds than trying to play 765 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: the waiver wire. 766 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 3: Okay, now I can't let you leave the podcast without 767 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 3: having this conversation. It was just announced that the New 768 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 3: York Jets are going to be on Hard Knocks. Everyone 769 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: wants to tune in to see what the Jets are 770 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 3: going to do. They get Aaron Rodgers, So now I'm 771 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 3: coming to you as the fantasy expert. Is Anon Rodgers 772 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 3: gonna work in New York. 773 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: I think so. And but here's the thing. I don't 774 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: think it's because, you know. I mean, I think in 775 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: part because of the talent around him, right, like having 776 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: a guy like Garrett Wilson to throw the football too. 777 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: And we'll see if Breeze Hall is healthy in the backfield. 778 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers is gonna work in New York 779 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: because he's kind of motivated again. Like I just got 780 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: the sense the last couple of years in Green Bay 781 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: like he was just sort of over it, right, I mean, 782 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: he was taking spirit quests to South America and like 783 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: Dadlin and psychedelics and like he was showing up just 784 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: in time for class, you know, and that sort of thing. 785 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: Like I think in New York, you know, he realizes 786 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: all eyes are on him. It's a new situation and 787 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: honestly knowing for him, but you know, the clock is 788 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 1: ticking on his career. There's only a few more years left. 789 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: So I think just him being motivated and paying full 790 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,479 Speaker 1: attention again is what's going to be good for him 791 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: and the Jets. Now, you know, I don't know if 792 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: that means a long playoff run. I think I think 793 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: this team's good enough to make the playoffs, you know, 794 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: if they're good enough to get past you know, the 795 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: Bills or the Bengals or the Chiefs. That part I'm 796 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: not sure about. But I do think he's going to 797 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: have some success in New York. 798 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 3: Okay, So what I'm what I'm hearing you say is 799 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 3: I need to make sure that I grabbed Garrett Wilson. 800 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 3: I should think about Breeze Hall and if I need 801 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 3: a quarterback, might need to consider and kind of kick 802 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 3: the tires on the forty year old quarterback who is 803 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 3: dabbling in psychedelics and all kinds of hell. 804 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I mean, I mean, like right now, Garrett 805 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: Wilson's probably I think a second mid second round pick. 806 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: Breese Hall is probably you know, second or third round. 807 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: Rogers is sort of that he's kind of that fringe 808 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: QB one where he's getting drafted is like QB eleven 809 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: or twelve. So it's you know, it's not like the 810 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers we saw in his prime, where you know 811 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: he's gonna give you forty five touchdowns and throw like 812 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: five picks, but he's still good enough to you know, 813 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: he's still good enough to get you four thousand yards 814 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: and probably get you thirty five touchdowns or so. So 815 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a quality quarterback. And like I said, 816 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: the fact that that he's again paying attention I think 817 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: is gonna go a long way. 818 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: Well, look man, you know it's gonna go a long way. 819 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 3: All these notes that I've taken the day, I am 820 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 3: so ready for my fantasy draft. Mark because I can't 821 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 3: thank you enough for joining the mood to six podcast. 822 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 3: This has been great. Look it's a little different, but 823 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: we have learned how to build a team, the best 824 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 3: fantasy football team that you can do. 825 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on mood to sticks. 826 00:36:47,200 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: Appreciate you not