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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast gets baited into interceptions. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Round the League podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansens, and I'm joined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: What up, boys? What up? How we have one forgot someone?

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Speaker 1: Well I didn't. I did not forget because this man

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Speaker 1: gets his own introduction. And he is the host of

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Speaker 1: Around the League Live on NFL Network. He is uh

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Speaker 1: the hero of the red zone coverage, which is wildly popular.

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Speaker 1: He is also the one of the most important men

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Speaker 1: in the dynamic of the NFL media newsroom. He is

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Speaker 1: Andrew Siciliano. I'm glad you added in the dynamic of

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Speaker 1: the NFL media newsroom as opposed to be the brander

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Speaker 1: scheme of things in other places in the building. Thank you, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: How are you? You've starting small, but you are you

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Speaker 1: carry a big weight here in the news room. I

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Speaker 1: mean your voice, it travels. We all sit together. I'm allowed,

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Speaker 1: you know what, when we all sitting next to each

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Speaker 1: to just shout out random opinions during the middle of

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Speaker 1: the afternoon and pick fights with people on the other

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Speaker 1: side of the room. He did create my favorite game

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Speaker 1: show of the year. Before or after Lincoln or Monty

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Speaker 1: in the news from a couple of weeks ago, and

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Speaker 1: when was Monty Kiffin born? Thirty was nine? He was

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Speaker 1: right before Pearl Harbor. And we sat there with um

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Speaker 1: John Marvel, one of our steamed esteemed rather and steamed

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Speaker 1: at times, news from executives, and we sat there Michael

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Speaker 1: Berger as well. It produces around the League live Jason Brooksby,

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Speaker 1: who does the same. And we sat there and we

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Speaker 1: were throwing out World War two timeline events and trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out was it before or after Monty Kiffin's birth. Shockingly,

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Speaker 1: the Monty era didn't work out in Dallas when you

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Speaker 1: could play this game involving US seventies something your old

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Speaker 1: man and and obviously and it's even more fun if

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Speaker 1: you then throw in Dick Lebo's birth and and before

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Speaker 1: or after or between Kiffen and Lebou. Again, these are

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Speaker 1: only for World War And now you're getting into Crystal knocked.

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Speaker 1: Andrew's tips that he just shouts out there are useful.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes we end up using them. You'll just I like that,

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Speaker 1: we'll just here a random stat you'll be like, the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns have not won a game east of the

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Speaker 1: Mississippi since seven after November fifty championship. The you know

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Speaker 1: what it is. We have such a great research staff

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Speaker 1: as well, and Craig, you're on top of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: You guys all are. But our research staff Drew Christiansen,

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Speaker 1: Bill Smith, Adam whose name I can ever pronounce, um,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Jeff's crew. When when the research comes in, I

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Speaker 1: sit there and yeah, I get geeked up over it,

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Speaker 1: tweeted out incorrectly because I need to not just sports though,

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Speaker 1: because you'll throw out a development in like Eastern Iowa

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Speaker 1: happened in news junkie. So yeah, if I see a

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Speaker 1: headline woman stabs man with squirrel, which there was one yesterday,

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Speaker 1: at this point, and uh, Lindsay Rhodes will look at

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Speaker 1: me and kind of roll her eyes. Please shut up.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to write a show, and you guys will

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Speaker 1: We we spoke with Brandon Marshall earlier this morning. We're

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Speaker 1: We'll go into we'll get into some preview of the

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Speaker 1: so unremarkably. I feel like he's like the most boring

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Speaker 1: and but real, real quickly. Ja Gruden did address this

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati was known as the shotgun lance McAll. By the way,

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Speaker 1: lineman protecting the quarterback. So you know, now he has that,

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Speaker 1: and then he has Mark Trustman, your favorite coach, you know,

425
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Speaker 1: and we know why now, but he has him someone

426
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Speaker 1: who stimulates him everyday, challenges him, put him uncomfortable positions

427
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Speaker 1: to make him better. And before he got hurt, we

428
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Speaker 1: saw you know, his numbers, you know, on pace to

429
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Speaker 1: be the best he's ever had. So you know, I

430
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Speaker 1: think we made the right decision. I love the way

431
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Speaker 1: feel every uh he got it done, you know. Uh,

432
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Speaker 1: you know I didn't let it drag out into the offseason,

433
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Speaker 1: no distractions for the team. It was like, hey, this

434
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Speaker 1: is our guy. We're moving forward and that's why I

435
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Speaker 1: love being a beer. You're obviously tied to Jay now

436
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Speaker 1: for the first seeable future. Is there any one of

437
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Speaker 1: the young quarterbacks in the NFL that you would most

438
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Speaker 1: like to play with? No, you know, I'm not going

439
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Speaker 1: to answer that question because if you know the headlines

440
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Speaker 1: was gonna read Brandon Marshall, well, I know you weren't

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Speaker 1: going for I wouldn't. I know you weren't going for that.

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Speaker 1: But I know if I answer that, you're not gonna

443
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Speaker 1: be like, oh, Brandon Marshall wants to play with this guy,

444
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Speaker 1: and then I have to, you know, put out some fire.

445
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Speaker 1: So let's move. Do you feel like in your career

446
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Speaker 1: that you've been you know, misunderstood. No hex No, I've

447
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: been freaking all over the place in so much trouble man,

448
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 1: uh freaking lost. But now you know, it's good because

449
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: I can take those experiences and give them to the

450
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Speaker 1: younger guys in the locker room, even some older guys. Man,

451
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: it's like, hey man, that's not the road you want

452
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Speaker 1: to go down. Um. And what's pretty cool is that

453
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Speaker 1: you know, now I can identify, you know, people who

454
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Speaker 1: are struggling or suffering in silence. So um, I'm really

455
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Speaker 1: excited about where I'm at right now as far as

456
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Speaker 1: in the leadership role and and how I can you know,

457
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Speaker 1: pour into other guys lives. Brendan Marshall, thank you very

458
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Speaker 1: much for joining us. What do you have planned? I

459
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Speaker 1: know you're going on vacation. Um, are you gonna be

460
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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl week in New York? Or you know

461
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Speaker 1: what I am? I got a crazy schedule. I've been

462
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Speaker 1: working the past um a week or so, and I'm

463
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Speaker 1: gonna do that up until vacation. Um. You know, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: I'm really just trying to prepare. You never know when

465
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Speaker 1: you're gonna you know that Jerry's gonna be ripped off

466
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Speaker 1: your back. So I'm you know, this is something I

467
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Speaker 1: want to get into your businessman, Yeah, man, just you know,

468
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Speaker 1: you gotta prepare, you gotta you gotta start playing, and

469
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Speaker 1: you know, a few years out. Um, but for me, man,

470
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Speaker 1: after you know, the whole month of January is vacation

471
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Speaker 1: and a little bit of work in February and back

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Speaker 1: to it. I really believe I had a down year.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have a chance to to really work. I

474
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Speaker 1: had a surgery, so that put me back, and I

475
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Speaker 1: didn't really like the way my game was. Let's so

476
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Speaker 1: I'm going hard and I'm really gonna just revamp my

477
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Speaker 1: whole game and come back a totally different player or

478
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Speaker 1: something you guys never seen before, kind of like an artist,

479
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Speaker 1: like a musician, you know how to say. This next album,

480
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be killer. This next album. Guys aren't gonna

481
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Speaker 1: know anything. Totally different, is it? This is how I'm

482
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Speaker 1: doing my games like I'm artis. I'm approaching like I'm artists. Yeah, alright,

483
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Speaker 1: that is Brandon Marshall. He's delivering the thriller of NFL

484
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Speaker 1: seasons every day. Next my next season to Thriller's do

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Speaker 1: it all right? Brandon Marshall, thank you very much. Thanks

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Speaker 1: you guys a nice fellow. Wasn't he very charming? Wesleton

487
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Speaker 1: wasn't that excited to eat? He doesn't like to talk

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Speaker 1: to the players. He's kind of like that guy who

489
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Speaker 1: just wants to sit behind his computer. And you know,

490
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Speaker 1: I had to get him excited about it, and then

491
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Speaker 1: you weren't too excited about it either. I had to

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Speaker 1: watch my daughter this morning. He wasn't bad. I'm just

493
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Speaker 1: saying it wasn't it Wasn't it fun talking with Brandon?

494
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Speaker 1: It was more fun than then I thought it would be.

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Speaker 1: You're right, If I have my druthers, I would not

496
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Speaker 1: be like interviewing players. Why a performance reviewport Brandon Marshall,

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Speaker 1: He ever listens to this? This is a rather brutal outro.

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Speaker 1: He was great, charming, he's charming, he's introspective, um, he's

499
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Speaker 1: self deprecating, um. But at the same time he knows

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Speaker 1: he's damned good. It's an It's a rare combination of

501
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Speaker 1: someone who is willing to admit his shortcomings when he's

502
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Speaker 1: a pro bowler, yet at the same time carry himself confidently.

503
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Speaker 1: Where you. You know, he knows. You can tell he's

504
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Speaker 1: had a very comfortable place in his life, far more

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Speaker 1: so than he was three, four years or even a

506
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Speaker 1: year ago. And he gave an honest answer about color.

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Speaker 1: We said, basically, listen, is this an average team right

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Speaker 1: now with color? And he and he said, we've been

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Speaker 1: that way up to this point. I mean, he didn't

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Speaker 1: pull any punches or you know, laced too much onto

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Speaker 1: colors play. Alright, So here we go. We move forward

512
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Speaker 1: now to the divisional playoffs, and you know, three of

513
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Speaker 1: the games are rematches of games that were played in

514
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Speaker 1: the last two months, which is pretty interesting. Um. The

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Speaker 1: other is a rematch from last year. That's the Colts

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Speaker 1: Patriots game. Uh. So we figured this would be a

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Speaker 1: good time to talk about what has changed between these

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Speaker 1: teams since the last time they met. And Greg, I'll

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Speaker 1: start with you San Diego Chargers and Denver Broncos. Of course,

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Speaker 1: that Thursday night game when Philip rivers Bolo became hugely

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Speaker 1: influential in the culture. Uh what is the difference between

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Speaker 1: that team Chargers team and now or is there I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's that. This is the one game of

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Speaker 1: the three rematches where I don't think that much has

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Speaker 1: changed and we haven't learned that much. When was the

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Speaker 1: last time we saw Denver in a game that really mattered?

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Speaker 1: That was it? So they've they've been getting ready for

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Speaker 1: this sort of game for a month. And yeah, they

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Speaker 1: had to beat a couple of the worst teams in

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Speaker 1: the NFL to get home field advantage. But I don't

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Speaker 1: feel like I learned too much about them there. This

532
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Speaker 1: Chargers team, you talked about it, you wrote about it

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Speaker 1: Mark how they are the biggest run heavy team in

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Speaker 1: the league right now. They have a quarterback playing at

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Speaker 1: a very high level, and they have a defense that's

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Speaker 1: completely different than they were early in the season. And

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Speaker 1: it really started uh the week before that Denver game.

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Speaker 1: They shut down the Giants. They did a great job

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Speaker 1: shutting down the Broncos. That was the fewest yards the

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Speaker 1: Broncos have had in the game all season. Top two there,

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Speaker 1: they're too fewest. This isn't even English. The games in

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Speaker 1: which they had the fewest yards the top two were

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Speaker 1: both against San Diego, so they know what they need

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Speaker 1: to do against Denver. This is more a game where

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Speaker 1: Denver has been getting ready for this moment now for

546
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Speaker 1: a month and we'll see. I don't think much as change.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers are the same. The Broncos didn't have Wes

548
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Speaker 1: Welker for that game. Andre Colwell played the slot and

549
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Speaker 1: I believe led the team in targets, yards and touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: You know who had a good game that night, von Miller,

551
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: not not. They're not in the mix, Wesley Wood, your benched.

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00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: Their defense is different is not always on the field.

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Speaker 1: There's there's such big questions about this Broncos defense, whether

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Speaker 1: they can be middle of the pack or whether they're awful.

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Speaker 1: Because you would have thought the Broncos had the advantage defense,

556
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Speaker 1: the better defense, but right now you have to say

557
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Speaker 1: the Chargers probably have the better defense. The Broncos middling defense,

558
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Speaker 1: below average defense has been I think one of the

559
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: most overlooked storylines of this entire NFL season. They went

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Speaker 1: six and o without von Miller out of the gate,

561
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Speaker 1: and at the hell of them, they don't need them.

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Speaker 1: They're fine because the attention well deserved was on Peyton

563
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Speaker 1: and the offense they are, statistically, I believe the greatest

564
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Speaker 1: offense of the history of the National Football League, highest scoring,

565
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Speaker 1: right so you know, the defense ain't that good and

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Speaker 1: the lineup shuffling that you referred to there, and this

567
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: the last month that has all flown under the radar.

568
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: It was, you know, we focus so much about Vaughan

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Speaker 1: and Champ Miller and his Champ Bailey rather in the

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Speaker 1: first couple of months. Uh, we we've totally overlooked this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, can consider years past when the Saints defense

572
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Speaker 1: has been that bad, when the Patriots and Giants defense

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Speaker 1: is a couple of years agogo to the Super Bowl

574
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Speaker 1: were historically bad for two teams to make it to

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Speaker 1: the final round. Pay attention to this defense that was

576
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Speaker 1: not historically bad. It's not Packer bad from last week,

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Speaker 1: it's not Bears bad from two weeks ago. But they're

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Speaker 1: gonna run the ball. I don't think they can outscore Payton,

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Speaker 1: but they're gonna run the ball. San Diego running the

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Speaker 1: ball forty times per game over the last like five

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Speaker 1: games or so. Do you see them just you see

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Speaker 1: them doing the same exact thing too. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: have to Philip through the ball six l T and

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Speaker 1: I were talking about this yesterday. Philip through the ball

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Speaker 1: six times in the first half total. I mean, you

586
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Speaker 1: don't see diverse games like that. But but then on

587
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Speaker 1: that drive in the third quarter, I think he went

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Speaker 1: six or seven or seven of eight or something like that.

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Speaker 1: So when they had to, they had to. He converted

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00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: on third down when he had to. One of my

591
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: favorite people in the NFL. One of my favorite stories

592
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: of this postseason the fact that Philip Rivers got in.

593
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Speaker 1: He was left for dead a year ago and and

594
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Speaker 1: now look at this guy. I love the bolo tie,

595
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: love the attitude, love everything about him. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's not just one game that they went to Denver

597
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Speaker 1: and one that that we're looking at. I think the

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Speaker 1: fact that they've played two games and both of them

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Speaker 1: played out in very similar ways, almost the exact same

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Speaker 1: score except forgot how close the first one except Denver

601
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Speaker 1: one the first one twenty. But the stats in that

602
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: game are crazy. The the Chargers had the ball for

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Speaker 1: thirty eight minutes of that game, and so they did

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Speaker 1: what they wanted to do. They just weren't as good

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Speaker 1: in the red zone and on third down, you know,

606
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Speaker 1: converting into touchdowns, but that's what they wanted. Two minutes

607
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Speaker 1: of offense, Denver still had nearly four yards. They're not

608
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 1: gonna shut down the Broncos but they can slow him

609
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: down to keep him off the field the old Tech Mobile.

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Speaker 1: Tough matchup for the Broncos legitimately is, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's I mean, we could do Patriots Chargers AFC

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Speaker 1: Championship ex home. Come on, do we really think Payton's

613
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Speaker 1: losing this game at home to the Ravens last year? Either? No?

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Speaker 1: I didn't. That was this is. Can you even imagine

615
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Speaker 1: what happens if the Broncos don't get this done on Sunday? Is?

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Speaker 1: I mean, how disastrous would that be for Manning's legacy?

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Speaker 1: They would you be able to fit head in the newsroom?

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Speaker 1: Iages they would next year and do the same thing. Alright.

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Speaker 1: Moving on, we have the San Francisco forty Niners, uh

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Speaker 1: facing the Carolina Panthers. I think we talked about it

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Speaker 1: on Sunday Night that the Niners were perhaps the NFL's

622
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Speaker 1: best team right now, going from six and four to

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Speaker 1: thirteen and four. Rolling played a great game in Green Bay,

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Speaker 1: and now they face a Panther's team that earned the

625
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Speaker 1: home field advantage and had that very close contest in

626
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Speaker 1: November Attend nine win that really kind of got a

627
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Speaker 1: lot of people on the band way to understand how

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Speaker 1: good this team possibly is the Panthers, how much of

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Speaker 1: these team has changed since that game. The first thing

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Speaker 1: for me obviously Crabtree. What we saw last week, it

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Speaker 1: looks like he's back at a level where Kaepernick is

632
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Speaker 1: trusting to me through he threw the crab Tree thirteen times.

633
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Speaker 1: He threw to Davis and Bolden a combined thirteen times,

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Speaker 1: So the way that they're moving the ball through the

635
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: air is changed. And Kaepernick looked frisky as well. This

636
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: is the game where the most has changed. Vernon Davis

637
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: sat out most of that game with a concussion to

638
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: Mario Manningham led that team in receiving YOURDS. He's on

639
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: an injury reserve. Alden Smith was a non factor in

640
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: that game. Is playing better the last few weeks, and hey,

641
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: then he has maybe in his career. That's the best

642
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: game in terms of just pure matchup. This is the

643
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: best game. I think a lot of us think if

644
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: there's a road team. I don't know about you guys,

645
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: if there's a road team that I would would really

646
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: favor this week, he would be the Niners. But that

647
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: makes it sad, as if you're somehow disrespecting which I

648
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: hate that word. Um the Panthers or think less of

649
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: the Panthers, I don't. We don't know about Steve Smith.

650
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: He says he's gonna play. I assume he will, but

651
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: how effective he is I have no idea. The Niners

652
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: are just on a roll. I mean, you want your

653
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: stereotypical here's the hot team, right, Um, they've won seventh straight.

654
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: Kaepernick has been I don't want to say great in

655
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: all seven, but collectively his numbers and all seven are great.

656
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: And I mean they're on again another cliche, they're on

657
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: a mission. Um. I like the Niners here, but again

658
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 1: that's sounding like I'm And they have all the playoff

659
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: experience too. Newton is such an X factor too, I mean,

660
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: is is he ready for this stage? Is it? Can

661
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: you foresee a scenario where he kind of stinks out

662
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: the joint and you know, all the questions come back

663
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: about what's Cam Newton all about? Or has he made

664
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: the leap now to the point where we can count

665
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: on him playing at a very high level when the

666
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: ages he hasn't for six weeks, he didn't against He's

667
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: been good in Key Spa. This isn't a good offense

668
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: it's a worse offense than it was with rab Chazinski

669
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: last year. And I think that game that was typical,

670
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: that wasn't typical, but it wasn't a good Cam Newton game.

671
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: But he made a couple of great plays on third

672
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: down where he escaped out of the pocket, made a

673
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: few great throws. They end up scoring ten points and

674
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: they win the game. And he gets credit because he's

675
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: played big in the big moments. But but think of

676
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: what their offense has done over the last five or

677
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: six weeks. They had that game in New Orleans where

678
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: they were awful. They had the game against the Jets

679
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: where it was all running. They were okay, but they

680
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: it was almost all running, and they had some struggling

681
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: performances against New Orleans. Against Atlanta in the final week,

682
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: they needed home field advantage there often scored fourteen points.

683
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: They didn't move the ball all day. They won that

684
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: game in Atlanta because of a bots snap by Matt Ryan.

685
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: It's just been a while we haven't seen Cam Newton

686
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: and this offense get better. It hasn't been better than

687
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: from week one to week. But the defense is phenomen

688
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: and to me, we've been talking about this all year.

689
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: Earlier in the year, we thought it sounded so odd

690
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: to say the Panthers needed to get the ball in

691
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: Ted Gin's hands. Yeah, and at this point the season,

692
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: they still need to get the ball in Ted Gin's hands,

693
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: and that's a disastrous place for an offense to be.

694
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: Their running game is great, though, and I think that's

695
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: gotten better. I think D'angela Williams looks better. They used

696
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: Tolbert well, they're not afraid to run. Cam Newton call

697
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: runs for him, so I mean, in in their minds,

698
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: they probably love to play like the Chargers and run

699
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: the ball. I think the Niners will legitimately have trouble

700
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: moving the football against the Panthers. Their defense is incredible. Yeah,

701
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: this is not I mean, I don't know if it's

702
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: ten to nine again, but this is not in any way,

703
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: shape or form. And Charles Johnson is another one. He

704
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: was healthy for this game the first time around, but

705
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: he was not himself for a five week stretch. Came

706
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: back and he and Greg Hardy combined for five sacks

707
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: ate herries in the season finale. They were pretty good.

708
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: I think we all want to see I mean, I

709
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: think fans want to see the Niners in the Seahawks

710
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: Round three. We wanted it last year, we didn't get it.

711
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: I think we you're waving your arms, great, but I

712
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: think we're gonna get it. But I don't think anyone

713
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: would be shocked if Carolina goes to Seattle. Well, the

714
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: Panthers are the unofficial team of the Around the League podcast,

715
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: so I don't know if you guys are probably all

716
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: taking the Niners anyway, but I'm sticking by these pants.

717
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: I want them to win at the very late. I

718
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: can't even if I don't buy it, I want them

719
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: to win. I literally, I was sitting in the cozy

720
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: UH bar nearby on Sunday watching the game, drinking diet coke,

721
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: of course, and you could say you were having beer.

722
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: I was watching the game drinking beer because I came

723
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: later a podcast Sunday night. You gotta be responsible. You

724
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: could have a drink anyway. No, I'm watching the game

725
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: and I picked the Packers last week, and and I

726
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: watched I saw these Jim Harbaugh sideline shots and I

727
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: was like, I hated myself. I was like, how did

728
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: I pick against Jim Harbaugh in a wild card game

729
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: against the middling Packers team. I will not get caught again.

730
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to pick Jim Harbaugh teams at least until

731
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: next Sunday. You know Rich Eisen that has made such

732
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: a big point during Game Day final about the fact

733
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: that Harbaugh was wearing khakis in the four team below

734
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: with the wind show, which again it takes a man

735
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: to where. I hope he had long John's under underneath there.

736
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: He has no other options. You open up a suitcase.

737
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: That's all is it's khakis. And here here's my issue.

738
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 1: They were pleaded khakis. Come on, nothing says old man

739
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: more than pleaded. It upset my wife enough she she

740
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: texted me about it. Why is he layering from the

741
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: front to back sort of because he he must have

742
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: had something other. Why is he starting with khakis and

743
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: then moving back from there because you have to have

744
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: some la do not provide good insulation from cold khakis

745
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: on top of khakis. However, I love their first album

746
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: and the drummer left. Um, yeah, whenever the drummer it's bad. Alright,

747
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 1: move on. The Saints are heading to Seattle. The last

748
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: time these two teams played a thirty four seven whooping.

749
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: A tough game there for the for the Saints, and

750
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: now they need to go back there and somehow prove

751
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: themselves as a true road team. I know they did

752
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: it this past week or the you know what. You

753
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: know what else happened last time these two teams played.

754
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: You gave the Lombardi Trophy to the Seattle Seas. That's right.

755
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: You said, not only that they were gonna win the

756
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Michael, convincingly. And I've been proven wrong, I said,

757
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: but they have been. They have the game at home.

758
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: Since then, you're saying there, you said, just put him

759
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl and they're gonna win. Alright, And

760
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't back down what I said. The NFC was

761
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: gonna be a struggle. They're gonna they're gonna be tough

762
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: playoff games. Once they get out of that, and they are,

763
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: to me the best team in the league, they will

764
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: then take care of business in the Super Bowl. We'll

765
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: have our first route. And sometime I don't understand. Yeah,

766
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: you're trying to don't let cardinal victory up there knock

767
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: you from your conviction. These two bullies. It's not gonna happen.

768
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: But bullies, bullies. Let's get to the games. But listen,

769
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: if Sean Payton and listen, Sean Payton played every single

770
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: ounce of they don't respect us in the entire state

771
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: of Louisiana last week and it worked. I worked by

772
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: one Shane Graham field goal, but it worked. And I'm

773
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: going to talk to Ben Watson later today. My question

774
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: is what does he have left? What else? I mean,

775
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: what's behind door number two? You you change your sweatsuits

776
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 1: last week, You change the flavor of your gatorade last week.

777
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: They I believe they left at a different time. They

778
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: there's something about beefy mac or something. They change something

779
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: on the training table everything. So you played that card

780
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: last week? What card is there now? Sean Payton is

781
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: good at it. He's very good at it. He really is.

782
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 1: That's why they're good. That's why he wins. Does that stuff?

783
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 1: Does that even mean to the mind of a player?

784
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: It does? I mean, look, if I have to hear

785
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: one more time, I joked before, but I hate the

786
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: word disrespect. They disrespected us. I have asked, and we

787
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: all have countless players over the years, veteran players, and

788
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: I say to them, when does that get old? Because

789
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: there has to be a point in your career you

790
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: reach a certain age a certain level of tenure where

791
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: it just doesn't work anymore. Where the coaches playing the

792
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: here's what this guy said, card and you say, all right,

793
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, really, and they said it never

794
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: gets old. Seriously said, oh, we get it, that it's

795
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: just stupid Jedi mind tricks. Yeah, during the summer, when

796
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the beach having a my tie, I

797
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: get it that it's nonsense. But that week it works.

798
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: It has to work because it's the only thing that

799
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: possibly fuels you to go out there and run a

800
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: hunder miles an hour and hit somebody on Sunday. So

801
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: here's hoping for Shawan Payton it works again. Well, how

802
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: about the plan that let's not have Drew Brees, one

803
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: of the greatest quarterbacks of this generation, throw for three

804
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: point nine yards in one of his worst games in

805
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: a decade. He's capable of playing outstanding in any game.

806
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't care where it is. The Seahawks. I saw

807
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 1: this from Chase Stewart earlier today. Since the nineteen seventy

808
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: merger of their past, defense is the second best adjusted

809
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: for era. So that's what hasn't changed since then? What

810
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: has changed? Uh, the Seahawks passing attack in the last

811
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: four games. It's the worst four game stretch of their season.

812
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: Percy Harvin looks like he might be coming back. I

813
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: don't know if he's a savior. He can't expect him

814
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: to play after not playing all year to be their

815
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: number one receiver, So we don't know what he's gonna do.

816
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 1: You think twenty snaps maximum and even if he did play,

817
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: has a team ever been this good without a legitimate

818
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: number one receiver. It's a good question. Patriots and oh three,

819
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: oh four most Patriot teams yeah four, Moss, Yeah, I guess.

820
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: But I think you hit it on the head that

821
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: there has to be concerned with the offensive line in Seattle.

822
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: New Orleans defense is coming off one of their best

823
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: games of the year. They held a very good offense

824
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: the two fifty six yards Russell Wilson has four touchdowns

825
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: and three interceptions over the last four weeks. It's not

826
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: a great offense. You know, the Seattle offensive line finds

827
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: whether to survive against most teams not named the Rams.

828
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: They generally will find a way. You guys should get

829
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: Darren sharper On. I don't think we could discount the

830
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: the Saints past failures in that building in the postseason

831
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: for some of the Sean Payton motivational stuff this week.

832
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: Either yeah, I mean and going back to that game,

833
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: how does that not leave a mark to go into Seattle?

834
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: What what was it a month ago? A little over

835
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: a month ago and get completely trounced that that sticks

836
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: with the team, doesn't it? Like the two thousand ten

837
00:42:53,400 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: Jets were only so much you can do with that.

838
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: This this Seahawks are a better team and they they

839
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: just don't lose in that place alright? Moving forward? The

840
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: the other game is the Colts heading to New England

841
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: to face the Patriots. They did not play this year.

842
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 1: The last time they played was November eighteen, two thousand twelve.

843
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: That was a fifty nine Patriots win. I remember that

844
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: as the game where Gronk hurt himself on the extra

845
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: point attempt. That was the game he got hurt. Yeah,

846
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: and uh, you know that led to issues for months

847
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: and months and now years. Greg. You haven't takeaway from

848
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: that though, don't you. The Patriots defense is worse somehow

849
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: than it was back last year. And the whole reason

850
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: I picked the Patriots to the Super Bowl before the season,

851
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: other than I'm a homer Is. I thought the defense

852
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 1: would be much better, and it started out this way,

853
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: but now here Brandon Spikes, their best run stopping linebackers

854
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: suddenly out for the season. Totally came out of Norri

855
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: he played every game this year. They're missing, of course,

856
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: Vince Wilfork, Tommy Kelly, Jared Mayo. That's all their runs stopping.

857
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: They're one of the worst. They're probably the worst defense

858
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: that's left in the playoffs. I would say they're even

859
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: worse than the Broncos. So this Patriots team has to

860
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: score fifty one fifty nine points. Again, that's that's the

861
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: type of game I think this is going to happen

862
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: to be for them. I do think I agree with

863
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: you on the analysis of their defense, But do we

864
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: agree on this. Bill Belichick will with a key to

865
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: Leave and god knows who else find a way to

866
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: take t Y Hilton out of the game. I don't

867
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: agree with that. You don't agree with that. I think

868
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: that's what he game plan today. I think a key

869
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: to Leave has not been the same players since he

870
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: reinjured his hip, and he's been taking advantage of on

871
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 1: defense the last two months, and t Y Hilton isn't

872
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: a guy where we're just bodying him will work. You

873
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: gotta run with him. How they how they call the

874
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: game is gonna matter. We saw a lot of people

875
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: getting away with a lot of contact that would play

876
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: in the Patriots favorite passenger Ferens went away this past weekend.

877
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: I think we all agree, seriously, it's a good point.

878
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that these were hockey refs, and nor

879
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: am I criticizing the officials, but in hockey over the years,

880
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: and I'm not a hockey fan, obviously, in the playoffs,

881
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: even in the NBA, everything changes with the officiating. The

882
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: NFL doesn't like to say that it does, and generally,

883
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: as a rule, I don't think that it does. But

884
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: we saw a lot of contact in all four games

885
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: this past weekend, um and they got away with it.

886
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: If if you can do that on t Y Hilton,

887
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: it certainly helps the Patriots. There are a lot of

888
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: lockdown corners of which a keep talib is when he's

889
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: at his best, who are physical and do well against

890
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: big body receivers. It's another thing to cover a jitterbug

891
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: like t Y Hilton, or it's a lot harder for

892
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: those guys to shut the shut him down. We're trying

893
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: to think of a like this. There's a scenario where

894
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: the Bengals were going into New England and you're dealing

895
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: with Andy Dalton. That would have been New England going

896
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: straight to the a f C title game. In my book,

897
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a quarterback east of Peyton

898
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: Manning that I would want to face less than Andrew

899
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: Luck right now. But I think the Bengals defense was far.

900
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: It was a more difficult matchup Mike Swimmers, more difficult matchup.

901
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: And that's all due respect to Chuck Borgano for Tom Brady.

902
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: Then this Colts defense, Patriots have had trouble with mobile

903
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: quarterbacks getting them on the ground. They have no pass

904
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: threst right now. They have Chandler Jones and Rob Ninkovich

905
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: is not bad, but they're not great, and they don't

906
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: like to blitz because they don't like to expose their

907
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: back end. At this point, Colts can't run the ball though.

908
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: If you love they could on the Patriots. I think

909
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: they can on the Patriots. If you love epic football games,

910
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: root for a close game. Because Andrew Luck is fifteen

911
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: and two and one one score games since he came

912
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: into the league. The next closest team is seven three

913
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: and one the forty Niners, and Tom Brady, as far

914
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, has made an art out of the

915
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: one minute drill. So if you like, well, I hate

916
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: close games. I said yesterday the and let's play the

917
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: put Andrew Luck on the twenty teams that didn't make

918
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: the playoffs game and you tell me if they make

919
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: the playoffs? They all do? They all do? Do the

920
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: Browns make the playoffs with Andrew Luck? Yes? Do the Cardinals?

921
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: They were good enough with Carson Palmer. You have. The

922
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: Cardinals are probably do. The Bucks. There's no way the

923
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: Texans loose fourteen in a row with Andrew Luck. I

924
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 1: don't know if they make the playoffs. There's some mad

925
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: motion of there you put Andrew Luck and J. J.

926
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: Watt on the same team. They're making the playoffs? Yeah,

927
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: I mean the guys unreal on freaking really he is

928
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: or flipping around? Where are the Colts? And I'm not

929
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. Where the Colts with Brandon Whedon say

930
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: they weren't picking the first last year, Let's say they

931
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: were picking five. Let's say they go Trent Richardson and

932
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: they take Brandon Whedon in the second round. A lot

933
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: of angry tweets from Jimmy say they're circling the toilet.

934
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: Is a franchise, Yeah, because I don't know. We talked

935
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: about the game last year. I don't know if their

936
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: defense any better at this point. I think it's worse.

937
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: It was good early this week as well, right, and

938
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: their linebackers are very slow. I mean the Chiefs killed

939
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: them with with throwing those short paths, especially to the

940
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: running backs, and Patriots are great at doing that. But Andrew,

941
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: in that equation, Cleveland has traded its first round pick

942
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 1: for Trent Richardson. So Trent Richardson's greatest contribution last weekend Listen.

943
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: I hope it works out for the kid, I really do.

944
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: But uh was when the end crashed on the fourth down,

945
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: they bought the they bought the dive that luck went

946
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: for twenty Right, his best contribution, uh, Andrew. Since you

947
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: will not be with us on Thursday, when we will

948
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: be making our predictions for this week, we would love

949
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: to hear what is your a f C n NFC

950
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: title game prediction? Okay, I'm gonna go matchups I'm not

951
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: gonna go with the chalk. The chalk would be Carolina

952
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: at Seattle. I'm gonna go with the games that I

953
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: think Americle wants to see. I'm gonna go with the

954
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: night there's winning in Carolina, the Seahawks somehow getting by

955
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: because I think the Saints are a legitimate threat. They're

956
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: regardless of what the numbers show you. I'm just going

957
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: on a motion here. Um So, I think it's the

958
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: Seattle San Francisco round three that America wants, and I

959
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: do think not just because this would be the TV

960
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: ratings game of the decade. I do think we get

961
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: Brady the Manning round fifteen for the right to go

962
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. I know it's what I would

963
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: like to see. I mean, I was hoping for it

964
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: last year too, but this is what happens. But I

965
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: think of the alternative, I do think that they're both

966
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck at Peyton Manning. As long as you're right,

967
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 1: as long as the Broncos win, We're We're not kidding.

968
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you are getting the Wake the Neighbors or

969
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: wake the kids called the Neighbors Game of the Century,

970
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: or even better, the Pagano Ball in Indianapolis. That is

971
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: wrong about that television. I called it during the season.

972
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: I always called it's our weekly game of the year,

973
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: because every week in the NFL, and it is, we

974
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 1: have a weekly game of the year. If you get

975
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: Brady v. Manning, I mean, that is your weekly game

976
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 1: of The difference between of the century, the only difference

977
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: between your games of the year and Greg's is that

978
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: yours does not involve Matt shop Why does he always

979
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: look sad and um and he says a guy that

980
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: obviously I need make him to go on TV. So

981
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: Andrew Siciliano, he is the pulse of the NFL media newsroom.

982
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: You can find him at Andrew Siciliano on Twitter, and

983
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 1: he is the host of the Round the League Live telecast,

984
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: which airs six pm Eastern Time telecast. I would love

985
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: I would love you, Andrew, if you could tell people

986
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: who haven't watched Around the League Live what it's about.

987
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: It is a little different than your typical football jabot talk.

988
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: It is six o'clock for yours, truly, the great Lindsay Rhodes,

989
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: or as we like to call our television's Lindsay Rhodes,

990
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: does the seven o'clock Eastern Time hour called around the league,

991
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: prime time. Uh. Some have compared it to um wolf Blitzer,

992
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: yet without a beard, in that we have the giant

993
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: video walls there, and we have all the reporters b Brier,

994
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: Jeff Dolphington, Um, all our great reporters in the field, Kimberly,

995
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: he's in Miami all the time, Kimberly, Jones, D D.

996
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: Who am I leaving out? Ian Desmond Purnell, Steve Cipher's

997
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: Omar Louise, I'm missing you had you had me at

998
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: wolf Blitzer without the giant video walls, and we do

999
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: exactly that. We go around the league, um and Uh,

1000
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: I forget pulse in the newsroom. This is the conscience

1001
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: of the like. Sometimes you have John McClain onto John

1002
00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: that's right eye, Andrew the great fall. Allowers are great

1003
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: follows on Twitter. John mcclin during a Texans game, a

1004
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: Baylor game, he is, I mean, he all but tells

1005
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: people to go kill themselves. Apoplectic comes to row Or

1006
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: when he's live tweeting his day on the set at

1007
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: spring Breakers, which he's been. He's been in more movies

1008
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: than Ralph maccio. A master work of Twitter. Was I

1009
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 1: believe it was the game the day before Kubiak finally

1010
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: got fired. It was a loss of the Jaguars Thursday night,

1011
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: and that was a Hall of Fame Twitter performance by

1012
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: mcclins was a little feisty. Yeah, well John mcclin's fisty

1013
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: John McClain will I mean, he'll say this is a

1014
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: disgusting performance. The Texans should be embarrassed to even go

1015
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: home and see their families. And that's like some of

1016
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: his team stuff. Seriously, um for a guy named I mean,

1017
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm convinced that yippie kai a that John McClain Bruce

1018
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: Willis was named at. Yes, we should get we should

1019
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: try to get you on the show anyway, So thank

1020
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: you very much Andrew for coming out. We will be

1021
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: back on Thursday and we'll talk more about these games,

1022
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: any coaching moves, or any other NFL news that happens,

1023
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: and if Rick Flair changed his allegiance again. We're going

1024
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: to cover all that stuff until then. Mr Dan Hans

1025
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: is signing up for the Mailman, Sizzler, the Boss, the

1026
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: gold Standard. Now I know i'd to said your last

1027
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: name too, there, Yes, and that's a big game or two.

1028
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: And Andrews Siliana until Thursday,