WEBVTT - Ep. 50: Turkey Tales

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<v Speaker 1>M you see that glass deal right there? Yes, Mr

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<v Speaker 1>Will is pointing out a big glass milk jug, probably

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<v Speaker 1>two foot tall. It's full of turkey feats jog of

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<v Speaker 1>some sort, and they're tag every once a while, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>go and I just remember hunts, you know, because forget

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of I'll jog your memory. On this episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bear Grease Podcast, we're doing something we've never done.

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<v Speaker 1>We've assembled an eccentric flock of turkey hunters to tell

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<v Speaker 1>their single favorite turkey hunting story. We'll hear from the

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<v Speaker 1>likes of Steve and Ronella Janice could tell us and

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<v Speaker 1>Will Primos, but we'll also hear from some backwoodsman who

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't seen on the TV, who've influenced me in

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<v Speaker 1>a significant way. Stories are an important part of the

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<v Speaker 1>human experience. The oral stories of those we respect shape

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<v Speaker 1>our lives. On this episode, we're going to let stories

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<v Speaker 1>do what's stories do. And you're not gonna want to

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<v Speaker 1>miss this one. And he said, I called this old

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<v Speaker 1>big gobbler. And he said, but when that dude come in,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, he come in on the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the log. He said, well, I just richerd that log.

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<v Speaker 1>He should I grabbed him and he said the log

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<v Speaker 1>was something I couldn't reach over to get him on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side. And guy said, my god, Doc, what

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<v Speaker 1>you do He said, Well, I did the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>I could do. He said, I turned him loose and

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<v Speaker 1>called him around the other side. My name is Clay

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<v Speaker 1>Nukelem and this is the Bear Grease Podcast, where we'll

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<v Speaker 1>explore things forgotten but relevant, search for insight and unlikely places,

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<v Speaker 1>and where we'll tell the story of Americans who lived

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<v Speaker 1>their lives close to the land. Presented by f HF Gear,

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<v Speaker 1>American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear that's designed

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<v Speaker 1>to be as rugged as the places we explore. Oral

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<v Speaker 1>stories have always been important for humans. They operate using

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<v Speaker 1>the supernatural technology that replays a moment that's been overran

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<v Speaker 1>by time. The telling of the story a lots of

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<v Speaker 1>a second life, resuscitating it to transcend time and geography

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<v Speaker 1>in the mind of another human. You can't tell a

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<v Speaker 1>story to a dog or a horse and expect them

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<v Speaker 1>to get much out of it. But that's what makes

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<v Speaker 1>us special. The words of others shape imagery in our minds,

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<v Speaker 1>and in many ways it's better than actually being there.

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<v Speaker 1>The storyteller has rendered out the impurities and the valuable details.

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<v Speaker 1>Information and the takeaway of the experience is delivered to

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<v Speaker 1>the listener in a neat, tidy package. That is, if

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<v Speaker 1>the person an efficient storyteller, and stories always indicate the

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<v Speaker 1>values of the teller. I'm always looking for where someone

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<v Speaker 1>puts emphasis and shows what's important to them, because it

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<v Speaker 1>will show you something about their insides. Well, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a fancy way to say that. If you like a

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<v Speaker 1>good turkey hunting story, you're gonna love this podcast. Turkey

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<v Speaker 1>stories are different than any other kind of story because

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<v Speaker 1>there's always lots of action, hand gestures, ups and downs,

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<v Speaker 1>and turkey sounds being replicated. Told by the right person

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<v Speaker 1>at the right time and the right company of people.

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<v Speaker 1>They're hard to beat. I don't recall a better lineup

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<v Speaker 1>of turkey hunters and storytellers than in this year podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We got them stacked like turkey beards and the cigar box.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to invite you to sit back and enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>a campfire with some people from my world. Every one

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<v Speaker 1>of them I respect in a unique way, but they've

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<v Speaker 1>all got one thing in common. They live for hunting

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<v Speaker 1>wild turkeys. This first story is told by none other

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<v Speaker 1>than Janice, who tell us of meat Eater. Since time immemorial,

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<v Speaker 1>the South has been the cultural epicenter of turkey hunting,

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<v Speaker 1>but the burgeoning gobbler populations of the West are spawning

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<v Speaker 1>some great Western turkey hunters, and Janice is one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>The man can flat cover some ground and chases some

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<v Speaker 1>turkeys hard. By my request, here's Jonnice's most memorable turkey hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>and his emphasis might surprise you, Clay. Here's my hunting story.

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<v Speaker 1>My turkey hunting story isn't necessarily a story about me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's more about my wife and where I got

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<v Speaker 1>to see her experience through. A turkey hunt takes place

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<v Speaker 1>in Montana about seven years ago, and we're gone out.

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<v Speaker 1>We had just moved to Montana and it was our

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<v Speaker 1>first spring turkey hunting in Montana. I found a spot

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<v Speaker 1>on a map that looked good. We drove in there,

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<v Speaker 1>set up a camp, started hunting. I went out first

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<v Speaker 1>one day, she stayed back with the kids. I might

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<v Speaker 1>even gotten a gobbler the first day. Um, it was good.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when I got back, I said, you should

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<v Speaker 1>go out for an afternoon and just see what you

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<v Speaker 1>can do. And she'd maybe been out a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days with me, but very very early in her turkey

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<v Speaker 1>hunting career, little to no experience. I sent her out

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<v Speaker 1>with a slate pot call in a peg, some basic camouflage,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was looking at it more like I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go out and get away from kids in life and

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<v Speaker 1>the craziness and just go out and enjoy the forest

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<v Speaker 1>and the outdoors for a few hours. This is maybe

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<v Speaker 1>two o'clock in the afternoon. She walks out of camp.

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<v Speaker 1>So the girls and I we go and hike a

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<v Speaker 1>little mountain nearby with glass. We go pick flower hours,

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<v Speaker 1>come back to camp. Maybe it's four now Mom's not

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<v Speaker 1>back yet. We go to leave camp as a pond nearby.

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<v Speaker 1>We go to the pond, try to catch some frogs,

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<v Speaker 1>look at turtles, throw rocks in the water. Come back

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<v Speaker 1>to camp. No Mom. Make dinner, kind of postpony eating dinner, waiting,

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<v Speaker 1>no Mom. We eat dinner, still no Mom. Starting to

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<v Speaker 1>get dark now this is probably May in Montana, so

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<v Speaker 1>the days are long. It doesn't actually get dark until

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<v Speaker 1>probably close to nine pm. So she's been gone six

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<v Speaker 1>seven hours now, and soon enough the kids are tired.

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<v Speaker 1>So I put them to bed. Eventually, it's like getting dusky.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a beer. Still no mom, no wife. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, I'm gonna go to bed. She must

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<v Speaker 1>have gone out for a really long hike and she's

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<v Speaker 1>just really enjoying herself, so I'm not too worried about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna lay down next to the kids in

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<v Speaker 1>the tent, close my eyes. It gets really dusky, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just fading into some sleep. When all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>that TenTen door zips open and I hear, like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, they was there. I was, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>calling and he was calling back. Was that you calling?

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<v Speaker 1>I was calling? And then he was calling, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I think I spooked him. But then I went around

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<v Speaker 1>the hill and then I called some more and he

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<v Speaker 1>called back, and I was making these sounds and I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing this and he was calling in. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>just waking up, and I'm like, ohoa, whoa what? Who?

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<v Speaker 1>Who are you? What have you done with my wife?

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on here right now? And she experienced

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<v Speaker 1>not only one, but gotten to work two different gobblers

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<v Speaker 1>in her whatever seven eight hours that she had spent

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<v Speaker 1>out there roaming the hills of Montana looking for Merriam's turkeys,

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<v Speaker 1>and twice had gotten to experience like the joy that

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<v Speaker 1>we all find in turkey hunting that I especially love,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's like the communication with that gobbler, with that bird,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just bit her so hard, like I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>seen my wife so excited about a certain thing in

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<v Speaker 1>who knows how long, probably since the kids were born.

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<v Speaker 1>But she was so fired up, just like what, asking

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<v Speaker 1>all the questions, what did I do wrong? I should

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<v Speaker 1>have done this? And then she's hyper analyzing it and

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<v Speaker 1>just the excitement of it all, and um, of course

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like kind of coming out of just almost

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<v Speaker 1>being asleep, and it was all hard to comprehend for

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<v Speaker 1>me at the moment. But in the end we saw

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<v Speaker 1>stout that she had been working a bird that had

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<v Speaker 1>actually roosted and it was on a nearby rich from camp.

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<v Speaker 1>It was only maybe three or four yards away, and

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<v Speaker 1>she said, well, I thought he was there. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he had roosted, and I figured I should just back

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<v Speaker 1>out and then come back to camp, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing to do. But when she came out to

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<v Speaker 1>the road that we used to access the hunting zone,

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<v Speaker 1>so she says, I backed out of there, but I

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<v Speaker 1>left a pile of flowers in the road, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you take a left at that pile of flowers, you

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<v Speaker 1>go down the ridge, you'll run into this gobbler. So

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<v Speaker 1>next morning, I get up nice and early, walk down

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<v Speaker 1>the road. I see a pile of fresh but wilted

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<v Speaker 1>from being sitting out there overnight air leaf, balsam root,

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<v Speaker 1>bright yellow. You could, even in the dark, you could

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<v Speaker 1>see him from fifty six yards away the pile of flowers.

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<v Speaker 1>I take a left, don't go too far, sit down,

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<v Speaker 1>and as it cracks flight, I can hear the gobbler

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<v Speaker 1>start to gobble in the tree, and uh, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a classic hunt that morning. I worked him for probably

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<v Speaker 1>whatever in the tree for twenty minutes, and then on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground for another minutes until he finally committed and

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<v Speaker 1>came over the hill and I shot him. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>story and how my wife got hooked on turkey hunting

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<v Speaker 1>and hooked on communicating with turkeys. Will never forget being

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<v Speaker 1>woken up by a excited, energized, near forty year old

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<v Speaker 1>woman after communicating with a couple of gobblers in Montana.

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<v Speaker 1>Good one, and you'll have to wait till the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the podcast to hear the story of his main sidekicks.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Runella, the next storyteller, is one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>Ozark turkey hunters I know. His name is Mo Shepherd,

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<v Speaker 1>and his family homesteaded in the Ozarks in the mid

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundreds. There's even a mountain named after him. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people are just turkey hunters, and Mo is one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you've got some rain gear because we're about

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<v Speaker 1>to get wet. Well, it's been a rough spring. I

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<v Speaker 1>hunted hard every day I was able to, and it

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<v Speaker 1>come down to the last two days of season. I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't hunted in four or five days, and I decided

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<v Speaker 1>to go back up to my mom and dad's old

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<v Speaker 1>place in the mountains. Anyway, I got up there that

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<v Speaker 1>night before spent the night with him. It started storming

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<v Speaker 1>during the night, bad storms, just lighting and thundering, pouring

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<v Speaker 1>down rain. I had my alarms set. I got up,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I woke up it was still this thunder

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<v Speaker 1>and lightning and pouring down rain. I just shut my

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<v Speaker 1>alarm off. I thought, I'm gonna go back to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>a while, no worry that. I thought that, and the

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<v Speaker 1>door opened on the bedroom. By sleeping in, my dad

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<v Speaker 1>walks in. He says, what you're doing still in bed?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, it's stormy. He said, you can't kill

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<v Speaker 1>a turkey lander in bed. He said, you've hunted all

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<v Speaker 1>the season. Said you just well get up and go.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got up, got my stuff together and headed out.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to the place I was gonna go, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was still raining and thundering. I sent in the truck

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit. I thought, well, I'm already out here.

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<v Speaker 1>I just well get out and get wet. Turkey's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make a living too. And I started rounding old logging

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<v Speaker 1>road and it was just breaking light, and I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if anything gon goble this morning or

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<v Speaker 1>not in this storm and like this, and it was thundering.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually they're goblet thunder and stuff, and I hadn't heard

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<v Speaker 1>a goble or anything. But I got the spot where

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<v Speaker 1>I liked the hunt. Right there there was a little

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<v Speaker 1>spot where two three ridges broke down off the big ridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought I'm gonna get right here and I'm on al

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<v Speaker 1>who al hoo did and the turkey answered me. I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's cool. There's the least one god were left in

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<v Speaker 1>here right at the end of the season. So I uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I got up there and got up on the hillside

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<v Speaker 1>and got set up and made a few soft calls.

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<v Speaker 1>The turkey answered me, and I just waited and I

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<v Speaker 1>waited and I waited, and I never did hear him

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<v Speaker 1>fly down. A lot of times, you don't. I was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty close to him. I don't noticed how close, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was closing, and I thought I could him fly down.

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<v Speaker 1>I never heard him fly down, and it was getting

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good light, and I thought, well, i'll call again.

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<v Speaker 1>I made a few soft calls. I didn't hear anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but I looked, and I can see a tail fan

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<v Speaker 1>up on the hill by me. I was in some

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<v Speaker 1>pine country, they're up here in those arcs. And I

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<v Speaker 1>got my gun up and ready, and he finally gobbled

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<v Speaker 1>at me a time or two, and then I seemed

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<v Speaker 1>making his way around towards me. And it was still

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<v Speaker 1>this whole time, it was just raining down, pouring down,

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<v Speaker 1>rain and thunder and lightning, and then he kind of vanished,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, well, he's probably had enough of this rain,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I sat there a little bit. I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanna I'm gonna give you a few more calls. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I made a few more calls. Somewhere or another, he

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<v Speaker 1>had circled around and he was back on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of I mean, I caught movement and seen him

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<v Speaker 1>and he was in range of me then and my gun,

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<v Speaker 1>My Shotgod, and he started strutting in that rain, and

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<v Speaker 1>he come right in. And when he got in good

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<v Speaker 1>range of me, I just clucked at him real out,

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<v Speaker 1>and he stuck his head up and I pulled the trigger.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had a down turkey on the next last

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<v Speaker 1>day of season, and I hadn't had no luck all season. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I got the turkey and I headed out and I

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<v Speaker 1>went home, or back to my mom and dad's. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's good, said, that's a good deal you

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<v Speaker 1>went this morning. I said, well, Dad, I wouldn't win

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<v Speaker 1>if you hadn't got me up, because I sure didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to get in this weather. He said, well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>one more day. Are you gonna go to mar And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, I probably will. He said where you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go? I said, I don't know. I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I heard one another one goblin there this morning

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<v Speaker 1>while I was working this one. But I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure because it was so noisy from the rain

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. Well, I went to bed that night, woke

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<v Speaker 1>up next morning to the same scenario. It was storming

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<v Speaker 1>and raining, thunder and lightening again, and I thought, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I want to do this two

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<v Speaker 1>days in a row. About the time the door swung

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<v Speaker 1>open my dad. He said, better get up, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna get after another turkey, And so I

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<v Speaker 1>got up. He said where you gonna go? And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. He said, why don't you go back

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<v Speaker 1>in there where you killed that when heristy? He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you said you thought you heard nothing. I saill, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I heard one or not. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>well you said you thought you did. That's better than

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<v Speaker 1>the other place you've been listening to him. So I

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<v Speaker 1>drove back over the same spot, and believe us or not,

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<v Speaker 1>I walked around that old road. Hadn't heard a bird gobble.

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<v Speaker 1>It was raining hard, thundering. In I got the exact

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<v Speaker 1>same spot where I heard that one the morning before.

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<v Speaker 1>I alhoo did and another one gobble. He couldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>been fifty yards where the one was the morning before.

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<v Speaker 1>On that same little ridge up above the old road

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<v Speaker 1>I'd walked in on and nearly identical scenario. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go well, but a couple of times I got set up.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear him fly down. One thing was when

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<v Speaker 1>he finally got fired up, he started gobbling. He gobbled

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit, and thirty minutes of working maybe less

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<v Speaker 1>than that, he didn't come strutting, and he just comes

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<v Speaker 1>slipping in like they do sometime, just to ease and

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<v Speaker 1>a long and I finally seen him, and he got

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<v Speaker 1>within about twenty five yards and before I could even

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<v Speaker 1>get a shot at him, And when he got in

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<v Speaker 1>the open, I pulled down my shot and took that

0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.080
<v Speaker 1>turkey got him, and that was too big, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were both big tims. I still got one of the

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<v Speaker 1>the last night kill. I still got his tail fan

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<v Speaker 1>and beard mounted in my house that I fixed myself.

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<v Speaker 1>That was probably twenty five or thirty years ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's been thirty year ago because my dad passed

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<v Speaker 1>away the next year after that. Most stories shows the

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom of age held by his father, encouraging a young

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<v Speaker 1>man to stay persistent, and you can take the values

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<v Speaker 1>of that story to the bank. Most of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>What makes a great hunter great is simply that he

0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:23.240
<v Speaker 1>showed up more than others. If you don't recognize the

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<v Speaker 1>voice of this next storyteller, you've been living under a

0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:32.359
<v Speaker 1>buzzard roost. This is Wilber Primost telling about his favorite

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<v Speaker 1>gobbler hunt. So something that's interesting. You see that glass

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<v Speaker 1>deal right there. Yes, I don't know what year I

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<v Speaker 1>quit putting them in there, but those are feating beers

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<v Speaker 1>and there is an aluminum tag. It's actually a tag

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<v Speaker 1>for a rose bush where you could imprint on the

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<v Speaker 1>metal and will never fade away. And their tag. Mr

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<v Speaker 1>will is pointing that a big glass looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>big glass milk jug, probably two foot Talllet's full of

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<v Speaker 1>turkey feet jug of some sort. So I would every

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<v Speaker 1>watch while I go, and I just remember hunts, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you forget a lot of they'll jog your memory. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was down in Capai County, Mississippi, and I got there.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a man who's got eighteen thousand acres, got

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<v Speaker 1>very successful industrialists, was one of my mentors in life.

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<v Speaker 1>And I pull up to his big house. He's there

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<v Speaker 1>having a little bit of coffee. He goes, where are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna go hunting this morning? Will that sad? Mr Hood,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go wherever you tell me, he goes, I

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<v Speaker 1>know that, but I wanted to know where you think

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<v Speaker 1>you might want to go as a kno, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go where you And let me tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a turkey up on the top of Moss Hill

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<v Speaker 1>and we can't kill him and you can have him.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, anytime you give somebody a turkey, you're

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<v Speaker 1>the name. His name was Mr Moss because he lived

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<v Speaker 1>on Mass Hill. Here we go, so I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about it. He said, well, you know that hill.

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<v Speaker 1>I got gravel on that hill because you can't hardly

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<v Speaker 1>get up it without some traction. It's real, real steep,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. We're driving up are the top of that hill.

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<v Speaker 1>We get up on the top and we wait to

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<v Speaker 1>leave gobbles and usually gobbles two ridges over right below you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, but he won't come. I said, okay. If

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<v Speaker 1>I'm driving over that spot, and I'm thinking, how am

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<v Speaker 1>I gonna hunt this turkey? And by myself. This is

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<v Speaker 1>before the days of strict video truth series, before the

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<v Speaker 1>Truth series, And I went, I'm on park a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yards from the foot of that hill where the gravel starts,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna walk up at hill. I started walking

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<v Speaker 1>and the gravel was loud under my feet, so I

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<v Speaker 1>moved over to the edge and there was so much

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<v Speaker 1>but oak trees, and there's all hardwood, and they were louds.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to go real slow and trying to be careful.

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<v Speaker 1>I get up to the top of the hill and

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<v Speaker 1>I wait, and that turkey gobbles right where Mr. Hood

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<v Speaker 1>said he was gonna be. And I ain't no way.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get that turkey. All him leaves are dry.

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<v Speaker 1>He ain't gonna come over here. I came up with

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<v Speaker 1>a little planning, so I'm gonna get light. I let

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<v Speaker 1>it get light enough that I could see the walk.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gobbling steady, and so I started walking to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I scratching the leaves. He started gobbling non stop. He

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<v Speaker 1>was hearing it. And I back up and scratch a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Oh, and I'd go. So I got to

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<v Speaker 1>that second reage. He's right over that second one, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the side, and I put my gun right there,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking he's gonna flat in and walk up if he

0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.359
<v Speaker 1>does come. And I sat down and I'd reached my

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<v Speaker 1>hand out scratching and leave. Ain't said a word, ain't yet.

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<v Speaker 1>One time I had my guns in there. All of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden I heard big, huge wings. He lit in

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<v Speaker 1>a hickory tree about fifteen feet off the ground on

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<v Speaker 1>my left side, on the side of the hill that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting on, and hammered it. And you're looking right

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<v Speaker 1>down at me. And I got my gun pointed right here,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's to my left, you know. And I got

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<v Speaker 1>my eyes cocked like that, you know, so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>buy it. I cannot move. He gobbles again. He jumps

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<v Speaker 1>off that limb and lands right below that tree. He's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty yards from when he did that. I got it boom,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was in the Mr Ball. It was incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was in a gun match on

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<v Speaker 1>the tree, you know. I had to draw fast and

0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I had yeah to shoot before he did. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful, rewarding hunt. Yeah, and you talk about your

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<v Speaker 1>chest puffed up. Walk back to Mr Hood's house him

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<v Speaker 1>and wait on Mr Hood to show up and go

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<v Speaker 1>I got him. Oh my god. I was riding that,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, you could ride that was putting on a

0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.000
<v Speaker 1>clinic for hunting the pressure turkey, wasn't it. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>doing doing things have worked another day, But it worked that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be done. Didn't call him one time, And I

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<v Speaker 1>learned the scratching in the leaves because one day I

0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.359
<v Speaker 1>was walking in the leaves and I stepped in a

0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.960
<v Speaker 1>really loud spot talk and a turkey gobble, and immediately

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<v Speaker 1>hit me. He ain't just gobble, he's gobbling at me

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<v Speaker 1>walking to the league, Yeah, he thinks. And I stood

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<v Speaker 1>there in that one position, standing up, scratching with my foot,

0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:44.720
<v Speaker 1>and I almost killed that trick. I'll be done. I

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<v Speaker 1>can probably find Mr Moss's beard and feet in that

0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:52.960
<v Speaker 1>old right there. Will's voice, accent and passion just draw

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<v Speaker 1>you in. His story was chocked full of insight and

0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.840
<v Speaker 1>tactics that a young Wilbur learned long before he became

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<v Speaker 1>a legend in the turkey hunting world. But one thing

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<v Speaker 1>you can always count on from him is that he

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<v Speaker 1>delivers the excitement. You won't have heard of this next

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<v Speaker 1>storyteller unless you're from the same town I'm from. Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Brown is a name that has bounced around stories in

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<v Speaker 1>my county my whole life. He's as good a turkey

0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:24.399
<v Speaker 1>hunter as has ever walked these hills. Most people that

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<v Speaker 1>are involved in outdoor media, if they're being honest, will

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<v Speaker 1>admit that the vast majority of the best hunters have

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<v Speaker 1>never been anywhere near a camera. And those are the

0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:39.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of guys I like. Andy's son, Scott is about

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<v Speaker 1>my age and we've been longtime close friends. We'll hear

0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:47.360
<v Speaker 1>from Scott later, but not before Andy tells about his

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<v Speaker 1>first hunt in nineteen seventy one and then Scott's first

0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:59.520
<v Speaker 1>hunt in the early nineteen nineties. Here's Andy, So, growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>my father, he liked to hunt, he liked he was

0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:05.280
<v Speaker 1>he liked to run dogs, and and uh, he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a still hunter, and he wasn't a turkey hunter. And

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't he wasn't a coon hunter when when I

0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:12.040
<v Speaker 1>was growing up. But I was fortunate and I had

0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:15.760
<v Speaker 1>a I had a uncle and uncle Laurie that took

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<v Speaker 1>a interest in me. And uh, anyway, he was all

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<v Speaker 1>of the above. He'd be trapped. He he coon hunted,

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<v Speaker 1>and and he was one of the first turkey hunters

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<v Speaker 1>to kill a turkey in Pocunty. I think in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six. He was one on the list. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I was fortunate enough to be able to spend a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time with him, and and uh listened to

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<v Speaker 1>his stories. Of course as a kid, your bug eyed,

0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and uh he could tell a big story. He could

0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:41.679
<v Speaker 1>get a big chaw red man and a in a

0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.159
<v Speaker 1>peach cannon and he'd ran back and he'd tell a story.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, he took me on my first turkey hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Clay was the spring of nineteen seventy one.

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<v Speaker 1>Up until that time, all I had heard was stories

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.240
<v Speaker 1>how about how smart they were. And you know, Uncle

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<v Speaker 1>Auris still back in those days, was u uh the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing you could do once you call a turkey

0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:04.520
<v Speaker 1>is just get up and sit around on the back

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.560
<v Speaker 1>side of the tree, because he's gonna come in behind you,

0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:10.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, and you can't move, you know, you don't,

0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, you've got to be still. And but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the first turkey hunt we went on was what we

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<v Speaker 1>called two mile Motorway. And we got over there, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was double early and and dark dark, and

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<v Speaker 1>had a little litle flashlight and and we got out

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<v Speaker 1>and we walked we walked back east or south there

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<v Speaker 1>to be south up the high line and we got

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<v Speaker 1>in there, and we put a little mountain there and

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:34.520
<v Speaker 1>we got out on top of it, and I'll never

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<v Speaker 1>forget him saying to me, he said, when it starts

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.600
<v Speaker 1>getting daylight, there's gonna be one gobble right here. And

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:41.919
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard a turkey gobble in my life. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the anticipation was just unbelievable. And sure enough, when

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<v Speaker 1>it started getting just a little bit light back in

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<v Speaker 1>the east, just right straight across the horror, there's an old,

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.879
<v Speaker 1>bigger gobble right out on top. And of course I

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:55.199
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what to do. He said, well, we're just

0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:56.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna sit here till he flies down and see what

0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 1>he does. And so he taught me a little bit

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:01.960
<v Speaker 1>there about turkey. And he didn't like to call a

0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 1>turkey on the roost until he pitched down. And that's

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the way I hunted all my life. I mean not

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:08.359
<v Speaker 1>to say that I never called one on the roost,

0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:10.760
<v Speaker 1>but I wanted him to fly down before I really

0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:14.120
<v Speaker 1>got excited with him. But anyway, the turkey flies down,

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:16.720
<v Speaker 1>and and uh, we go down there, and he gets

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:19.399
<v Speaker 1>some y'all set up, and and at that time I

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>had a eleven hundred Rimington automatic modified barrel shotgun shooting

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:27.919
<v Speaker 1>super X shells. Number six is and I'll never forget

0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.439
<v Speaker 1>sitting there. And he says, now, I'm gonna get right

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:32.920
<v Speaker 1>up behind you on the ridge here, and I'm gonna call.

0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 1>And he made his own calls. He had a little

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.360
<v Speaker 1>old uh he hollowed it out. He was a carpenter

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and had a little bridge on it and a little

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 1>striker that he struck. He yipped with and I saw

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:47.360
<v Speaker 1>he did. He was a three up guy and shut up.

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 1>But Turkey gobbled he calls a turkey. And he'd always

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 1>told me he sitting Now when they quit goblin, you

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.680
<v Speaker 1>need to get the looking for him. I sat there.

0:23:56.240 --> 0:24:02.199
<v Speaker 1>I was afraid to even breathe. I'm mean, the anticipation was.

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:06.239
<v Speaker 1>I can't even describe how the excitement was for me

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 1>to just sit there. And I sat there, and I

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:12.680
<v Speaker 1>sat there, and I must have sat there for twenty minutes.

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Of course, Uncle Aurie never said another word on the call.

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 1>And in a little bit about a hundred fifty yards

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 1>west of us, Turkey gobblers, he says, come on, we

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 1>get up and we leave, and so we go down

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:25.120
<v Speaker 1>and we set up on this one. He calls him

0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:28.240
<v Speaker 1>turkey shuts up. Anyway, we sat there and sat there,

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and sat there and sat there. In about that time,

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:33.399
<v Speaker 1>the turkey that we've been we've been after start with gobbles.

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Right back where we're at, there was two gobblers. And

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.159
<v Speaker 1>but I said, I said all that to say this,

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:41.440
<v Speaker 1>which I'm gonna get into my story about Scott's first

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>turkey hunting. That did something to me as a thirteen

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:50.919
<v Speaker 1>year old boy. That obsessed me with turkey hunting, and

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I spent I neglected, uh well, in the springtime, I

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 1>neglected my family because I spent thirty days before season

0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>of scouting. I mean I was after him. I mean

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I that I lived and breathe. That's everything I wanted

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>to do in life. And so with Scott growing up,

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 1>I was a little concerned because, like I said, I

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't make it. I didn't make it fun for him

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways. But his first turkey hunt,

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 1>we took off and it was probably I don't know,

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:20.119
<v Speaker 1>half three quarters of miles to the top of the mountain.

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>So we pulled it on the top and what we

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>call the low gap, and there was a fine, fine morning,

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 1>nothing I mean got daylight. No turkey's goblin. And so

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>we fell off the north side and went down through

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>a divide into a little low with I don't know you,

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:36.400
<v Speaker 1>just a little high ridge that lays uh north in there,

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and and all of a sudden, a turkey gobbles behind us,

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:40.360
<v Speaker 1>back up on the mountain the way we come off,

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 1>and I said, look here, I said, we're gonna get

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>that dude, you know, so we we uh anyway, I

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>got Scott set up, and of course, you know, looking

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 1>back on the way I did it, I did it wrong.

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't put him. You know, I should have had

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>him between my legs where I could talk to him.

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>But I had always tooke up Scott. I said, Scott,

0:25:58.040 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>trying not to shoot one walk And I said, but

0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I was. When they're walking. I said, there's a lot

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 1>of air around those dudes. And I said, you know,

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>wait till they stop. Anyway, I got Scott set up,

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 1>and I told, turkey's right there, gobbling one gobbles out

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>west of us out there. I called him. He gobbles

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 1>right back, and then this all of a sudden, here

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>he kept, you know, just drumming every every crunch, snap crunch,

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>snap crunch, And I look up and here that dude

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>comes right down. He's gunning barrel. I mean just right.

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Scott's got is g gonn up and he's coming right down.

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 1>He's gunning barrel right. He just kept coming and I'm

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 1>going shoot, he's got shoot him. And he just kept

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.360
<v Speaker 1>coming and kept coming, and finally he gets out there

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 1>about fifteen steps and he just turns and he just

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 1>walks off in the r get up and I go

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>out there and I said, wine, world one you shooting

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.479
<v Speaker 1>that turkey? You know? I mean, I'm I'm double being

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>out of shape about that, you though, And he says, well, Dad,

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 1>you told me not one walking walking right to you,

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I said, that's okay. This one gobbles

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 1>over here. And so we just immediately I said, come on,

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 1>we'll go kill that. When we just went and we

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>went west of him, pull the top of the mountain,

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>got in above him, and there was a big old

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.399
<v Speaker 1>log laid down on right up on top where it

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>topped out there, and there was a limb kind of

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>went out like this, and I put Scott right between

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 1>the log and the limb and the big Steve Holler

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and I just got over behind the log. I called

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 1>it old gobbler man. He just he just broke me

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 1>off down there. And here he comes to scrunch snap

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>of that ridge. Well, Scott's got his gun like this

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>right here. Well when he comes up, he comes up

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>out of the holler right here. Well Scott just throws

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:36.400
<v Speaker 1>that gun up over that hill. Anyway, that one flies off,

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>And so I ripped him pretty good like that, and

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.719
<v Speaker 1>he's got his lip pooched out pretty good. And you know,

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>I've doubled bent out of shape because he, you know, moved.

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 1>You can't do the two big gobblers. You know. To

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 1>make a long story short, we never fired a shot

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>that morning. So so we go back to camp. And anyway,

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:58.959
<v Speaker 1>so we get up the next morning and we go

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.640
<v Speaker 1>south to camp down in the ridges, and we get

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 1>down there and we get on some gobbers down there,

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>and and he's got that eight seventy and I've got

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>him on a leg just kind of out from me there,

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and I called him a old turkeys in here. They

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>come right up that ridge and about the time I'm

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna say get it, let him get a little closer,

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>cur wam, and he kills the first one. Anyway, he

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>killed his first turkey and I've got a I've got

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>a picture of that, and he was proud of it.

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>And he was certainly not even more proud than I was.

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>But it's kind of neat to have kids that, uh,

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, they've turned out. Scott's the next on turkey

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>in and I think he's one of the best there

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>is in this country. He's he's he's very good at

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>what he does. And I would like to think I

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>have a little bit of that. But I was not

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>easy on him as a father. And he has one

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>more story to tell. And I bet you're gonna like

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>this one. Does the frequency of this one sound familiar?

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>And and just one more little story. I had God

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>tell me one time. And he talked about a renowned

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 1>turkey hunter down to South Louisiana called Doc Robern. He

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>said he was he was well known, He's supposed to

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>be the best turkey hunter there was in that country.

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.239
<v Speaker 1>And he said, I sat in the coffee shop one

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>morning and says, old Doc walks in there in turkey

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>said he said, Doc, He said, how did you do this? More?

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>He's a man I killed the big in this morning,

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 1>he said, he said, Well, tell me the story. He said,

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what I live for, He said, tell me what

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>happened this morning? He said, well, he said, you ain't

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna believe this, But he said, as I was out there,

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>he said, laying by a log, he said, and he said,

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I called this old big gobbler and he said he

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>dis answered me right back, and he said, he said,

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>but when that dude come in, he said, he come

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 1>in on the other side of the log. He said,

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>my god, Doc, what happened? He said, Well, he just

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>walked right on the other side of the log, and

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>he said I could look under that log and I

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 1>could see him standing there by me. He said, Doc,

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>what you do? He said, well, like this ritcher that log,

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and he said, I grabbed him and he said he

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>was too big. He said, I was trying to him

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>under the log. He said, I couldn't get him under there.

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>He's too big. And he said the log was some big.

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't reach over to get him on the other side.

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>And guy said, my god, Doc, what you do? He said,

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>will I did the only thing I could do. He said,

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I turned him loose and called him around the other side.

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>That's a turkey huttter right there. That's a turkey gettor

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>right there. This is my good buddy, Brent Reeves. He's

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>a lifelong turkey hunter, and a good one at that.

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>This story involves some family, the Saline River bottoms, a

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>tough turkey, and some mosquitoes. Now this story happened over

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty five years ago, but it was turkey season, was

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>going into the second week of turkey season. I'd already

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>killed one, but my brother hadn't. And we always did

0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 1>everything together. We were goose hunted, we squirrel hunted, we

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 1>duck hunted, any kind of hunting, fishing, whatever we always

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>did together, except turkey hunting. Turkey hunting was it was

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>understood that every man was on his own. But we're

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>getting into two weeks in the season and he calls

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>one night and asked me what I'm doing. The next

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>morning and said, what, it's still turkey season, naming I'm

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>turkey hunting. He said, look, I need you to help

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>me do something. And I thought, oh my gosh, he

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>wants me to help him work on something. It's turkey season.

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess apparently he's given up. But whatever it is,

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 1>he's my brother, so I'm gonna help him. I said, well,

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>what is it? And he says, I want you to

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>come help me kill this turkey. I'm like, what turkey?

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 1>He said. Look, I'm gonna be honest. I've been hunting

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>this turkey every day for eleven days in a row.

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>In eleven days in the row, I have zigged when

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I should have zagged. He's done everything in the world

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>opposite of what he did the day before. If I

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 1>set up on the north side of him, he flies

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>down to the south. For two days in a row,

0:31:57.680 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>he'll do that. On the third day I set up

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>on the south side, He'll fly down to the north.

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>He's doing everything. He's reading my mind. And the only

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>way I think I can kill him as if we

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>tag team him. Will you help me? Well, yes, yes,

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I will help you. And all the time and in

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>my mind I'm thinking I'm gonna kill that turkey. So

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the next morning I get to his house well before daylight.

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 1>He's got breakfast ready, and we sat and we have

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>breakfast and we drink coffee, and we discussed on how

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna attack this turkey. And he tells me then

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 1>where he's at down the river bottoms. So with breakfast

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 1>at we uh we load up in his truck and

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 1>down the road we go. Now where this is at

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>is in the Sleen River bottoms in Cleveland County. There's

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 1>a boat ramp there that's named after my father. My

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 1>family's connection with that area and that hunting ground is

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>go dates back to when our family helped settle that

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>part of Arkansas before the Civil War. So it's we

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>to say that we've got a connection to that place

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>down there is is a very huge understatement. But anyway,

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>we get down there, we park on the side of

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the road, the gravel road, and there's an old dim

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>logging road that goes up into the woods. And that's

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>where he's been here in this turkey gobblin every morning

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>two or three days before the season it started, so

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>actually about fifteen days in a row this turkey has gobbled,

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Tim said, from the same tree, almost on the same

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>couple of acres. Anyway, so morning number twelve, we're sitting there,

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>birds start chirping a little bit. It gets goblin time. Nothing,

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>it gets on past first goblin time, nothing, nothing, no

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>turkeys anywhere. It gets past fly down time. Nothing, not

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>a peat. So he said, well, let's go down the

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 1>road to another spot. Let's make a big loop up

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>through the woods. Let's see if we can strike up

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a gobbler. So that's what we do. We drive about

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>half mile down the road, we get out of the

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>truck and we start walking. We make a huge loop

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>up through the bottoms, up through the river bottoms, and

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 1>we never find or here a turkey. We find lots

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>of fresh sign but we don't do any good. So

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>it's now it's after ten when we get back to

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the truck and we're we're just defeated. I just knew

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna be the good luck charm for that,

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>but also I was kind of aggravated that I had

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>wasted my morning to kill my second turkey down there

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>helping my brother in his feudal attempt with this turkey

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 1>that was obviously smarter than both of us. So on

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the way out, he says, you know, I'm gonna pull

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>back in and see if I can uh make this

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>turkey gobblin old hickory nut, old tough one. So he

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>pulls over on the side of the road there. I

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>just cracked my window to listen because it's it's dinner time.

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 1>And for those of you that don't know, down here

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.879
<v Speaker 1>we eat breakfast, and then we eat dinner at noon,

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>and then we eat supper. So now you know the

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 1>time of the day I'm talking about. So he walks

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:47.760
<v Speaker 1>in front of this truck. He's got an old box

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>call in his hand, and and he doesn't get to

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the third yelp on that box when that turkey gobbled

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 1>out there, and he couldn't have been more than a

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>hundred yards. It was so loud in the truck that

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought he could see it. So we were so close.

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>And the look of astonishment and amazement and surprise and

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 1>fear on my brother's face when he turned and looked

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>at me sitting in the cabin of the truck was

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:14.720
<v Speaker 1>a look I'll never forget. So I eased the door open,

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>grabbed my call, and up the road. I mean, we

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>are tiptoeing up this road. It's a little dim road

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 1>to get away from the truck, just far enough and

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>at an angle that you can't see the truck that

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that's parked there on the gravel. So we get just

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:31.919
<v Speaker 1>out of side of that truck and we sat down.

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:35.760
<v Speaker 1>And our plan had been for him to sit close

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 1>and me to sit behind him, or at a different angle,

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and maybe I could we could get the turkey working

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 1>and then I could take over the calling and he

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 1>would come on end to investigating, and Tim would be

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>close to him, and he had dropped the hammer on.

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>But this morning, since we had no time to prep

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>no no time to get where we initially plan to do.

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>When we sat down, we sat down beside each other.

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>He is his shoulders touching my show older. Now we're

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>staring out and through this the bottom, and it's it's

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 1>a hardwood bottom, but there's there's some undergrowth in there,

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>and there's some briar bushes, and there's a few small

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 1>trees and the leaves have put out pretty good. So

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>it's while it's open, there still is places where you

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>could actually move. A turkey could walk through there and

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't be able to see him. So my brother

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 1>sticks his mouth, calling his mouth, he makes lot up

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>in the turkey gobbles. I mean, he's just wow. I

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>mean it's right there. And I look and my brother says,

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:33.439
<v Speaker 1>he whispers to me, can you see him? I said, yeah,

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I can see his fan. He said, don't shoot him.

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I said, okay, I want I need to mention that.

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>When we sat down there, the mosquitoes were so thick

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>and in the grass on the edge of that road,

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:48.399
<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like a covered quail. When we sat down,

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:53.240
<v Speaker 1>it was just a constant buzzing until that turkey gobbled.

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>And when he did that, all our attention was directed

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>towards him, and I forgot about the mosquito. So I'm

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>looking at him and I said, can you see him? No,

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:04.399
<v Speaker 1>I can't see him. I said, what I can see him?

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Tim said, don't shoot him. I said, okay, I won't shoot.

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Where's he? I said, he's straight down my gun barrel.

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at it. Can you see him? He says, no, No,

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:16.839
<v Speaker 1>I can't see him. Please don't shoot him. I said,

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna shoot. Turkey goes behind some bushes, said

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't see him, and here my brother go make

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>a soft moment. He just went m I thought that

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>he's scared. This turkey's gonna get away. About the time

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the turkey walks out behind that bush and he's coming

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 1>towards us. Now, this turkey is fifty yards and he's

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.439
<v Speaker 1>getting close to the gun range for sure, but he's

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.880
<v Speaker 1>walking towards us, and he's not scared. And the goal

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>for this mission is for my brother to kill this turkey.

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:44.919
<v Speaker 1>I said, I can see him. He said, please don't

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.319
<v Speaker 1>kill him. I'm like, okay, I won't kill him. I

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>thought he was fixing a cry. But the turkey makes

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>two or three more steps, goes into full stred. I said,

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 1>can you see him? He said no, please don't kill him.

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm not going to kill him. Then my

0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>brother went and I and here he's grunting, he's straining,

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and I don't have any idea what what the problem is.

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>But I can't look over at him to see him,

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 1>because the turkey is within forty yards now, and there's

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>no way that he wouldn't see either one of us moved.

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 1>My brother keeps making that sound. I thought maybe he

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 1>was having a stroke. I didn't know what was going on.

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 1>But finally he says, I see him. I said, you

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:25.319
<v Speaker 1>can you kill him? And boom, his shotgun goes off.

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Old turkey rolls over and commences the flopping. We get

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 1>up and run out there and we're he's got his

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>foot on his neck and we're high fiving and hugging

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:37.319
<v Speaker 1>and talking about all the things that culminated in that

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 1>hard morning to hunting that finally we're we're victorious and

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>standing there looking at that turkey on the ground, A

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.840
<v Speaker 1>big turkey too, And I said, hey, that racket that

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>you was making, What in the world was that? He said, huh,

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I said, while we were sitting there beside one another,

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.280
<v Speaker 1>you kept talking and then he was grunting or straining

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 1>or something. They just I didn't what was going on.

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 1>He said, Oh, man, remember moskeeters back there. I'm like, yeah,

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I do, I sure do. It was at this point

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>my brother described how multitude of mosquitoes had taken roost

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 1>in his nether regions and proceeded to give him a

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>very painful one way blood transfusion. He said it was

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:19.720
<v Speaker 1>almost to the point where he couldn't keep the wagonhage.

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Anyway he did, We prevailed, and we got the turkey.

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Ha another regions. For a cornbread connoisseur, this was pretty diplomatic.

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 1>You ever considered working for the United Nations? Pretty boy

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:40.359
<v Speaker 1>reeves switching gears. This next story is one of my

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>personal favorites. It involves a tough public gland gobbler and

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 1>some lightning. I'll be telling this story. It was late

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>April and I've been hearing a couple of birds roosting

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>on a big pine ridge across a big holler from

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>where I was hunt. I decided that I would look

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 1>on a map, which I didn't have on x back

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>in those days, looked out a map, figured out how

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 1>to drive around there closer than I went in the

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:12.320
<v Speaker 1>next afternoon, and I took my son Bear John nucom

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 1>with me and it was gonna be one of his

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 1>first kind of real turkey hunts where we had a gun,

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>we're actually on birds. I took him out of school

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and we went over there. My plan was to just

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>get within you know, a hundred yards where I felt

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>like they were roosting, set up and just call lightly

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 1>all afternoon and just see if we call on him. Well,

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:33.839
<v Speaker 1>we get over there, set up the blind. I yelled

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Tira to cackle a little bit, and I go to

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 1>sleep and Bears sitting there and I kind of had

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>him scratching on a slate, call and he's having a

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>good time. Got him some snacks and drinks and stuff,

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'm dead asleep after probably thirty minutes, and we've

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 1>got probably two and a half three hours before dark,

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.320
<v Speaker 1>and directly I Bear starts poking, and he says, Daddy,

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I heard a turkey gobble. And I didn't really know

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 1>how much he knew what a turkey sounded like. And

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>so I said, did you really which direction? He pointed

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:06.839
<v Speaker 1>right the direction you know, he thought it came from,

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and directly, sure enough, our turkey gobbles is just probably

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>within a hundred fifty yards. I call a little bit

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 1>of answers. I call a little bit of answers. And basically,

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:19.320
<v Speaker 1>we spend the whole afternoon working this bird from the blind,

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and it came in just almost within gun range. We

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:25.760
<v Speaker 1>never did fully see it while it was on the ground,

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 1>and it gets dark on us, and this birds probably

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 1>gobbled fifty times. But Bear sees the turkey fly up

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.280
<v Speaker 1>into a big old pine tree and he says, Daddy,

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I just saw that turkey flying to that tree, and

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see it. And then I said, which tree?

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.400
<v Speaker 1>And he points out the tree and describes to me

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 1>where the tree is, and you know, I believe him,

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 1>and I know the tree this turkey is in, which

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>is a pretty rare thing in turkey hunting. So we

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:55.320
<v Speaker 1>go home that night and the next morning I decide

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that I'm gonna go in and it's late in the season,

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 1>and these birds are tough, man, they just don't respond

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:03.800
<v Speaker 1>to calls. They've been highly pressured. And I knew that

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.359
<v Speaker 1>to kill this turkey number one, I wasn't gonna call

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:09.279
<v Speaker 1>much at all, if any, And I knew I had

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 1>to be very close to that tree, and so I

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 1>had a game plan. I was gonna get in there

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:19.800
<v Speaker 1>a minimum of two, probably three hours before the crack

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>of dawn. The woods were dry, man, it was crunchy,

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>crackly dry, and there was no way that I was

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna slip up real close to this roost tree without

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>spooking this turkey. So my idea was to get in

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 1>there super early, and I was gonna get within about

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 1>two yards of the tree. I was gonna take my

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:40.799
<v Speaker 1>boots off, and I had some little booty inserts, like

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 1>in an insulated boot, and I was gonna put those

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:48.400
<v Speaker 1>over my sock feet so that I could walk essentially barefoot.

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>And I was gonna take two hours and get basically

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>within shotgun range of that roost tree. And I was

0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 1>just gonna walk because a turkey, you know, they're they're

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:01.880
<v Speaker 1>up in a tree at night and they're hearing deer walk.

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 1>They're here, and possums walked by there, hearing skunks walked by,

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:09.240
<v Speaker 1>so they're used to stuff walking, but not the cadence

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.959
<v Speaker 1>of a man. So I was just gonna creep in there,

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and I was gonna be within shotgun range of that

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 1>tree at daylight. Well, I wake up that morning that

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 1>it is a fine April morning for killing a turkey.

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 1>No wind, you can see the stars, everything's beautiful. There's

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>no forecasted rain whatsoever. I drive out there is about

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 1>an hour from my house. I pull up, I walk

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 1>all the way back in their long ways back in there,

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:36.359
<v Speaker 1>and I pull over the mountain to where I'm kind

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>of in this turkey's domain, and I hear him gobble.

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's probably two and a half hours before daylight,

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 1>and I hear that sucker gobble in the dark, and

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 1>it just kind of shocked me. But that you know,

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, well good, I'm gonna know just where

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>this tree yet. I'm just gonna walk right to him.

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>And I go to taking my boots off, and I

0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 1>see just kind of like a flash of light from

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:02.840
<v Speaker 1>a long ways off that just kind of makes me

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:04.360
<v Speaker 1>jerk my head up and I look again, and I

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:07.319
<v Speaker 1>see another flash, and I go, Man, that's lightning. But

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 1>it was so far away that I couldn't hear the thunder. Well,

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I pull up my phone and I was able to

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>get self coverage, and I pulled up weather dot Com,

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and man on the Arkansas radar map, there was not

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 1>a single cloud in the entire state of Arkansas except four.

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 1>A few miles west of where I was at, there

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:34.879
<v Speaker 1>was a thunderhead, bright red thunder head about as big

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>as the end of a pen, showing up on that

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>radar and you kind of zoom in and it's just

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>a single thunder head and it is a couple of

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.439
<v Speaker 1>miles from me, and man by the time I pulled

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 1>it up, I saw more lightning, and all of a

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 1>sudden I heard the thunder and Turkey gobbles at the thunder.

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:53.399
<v Speaker 1>He was here in the thunder and I couldn't even

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>hear it. Well, it's closer, and I just go, I'll

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 1>be darn, here comes up. Here comes a thunderhead. Well,

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't sit there very long, and I started seeing

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:06.320
<v Speaker 1>the trees sway, and I start hearing the wind blow

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and directly I see lightning and thunder

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 1>real quick. I'm up on a high knob. Man, it

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 1>was no time before that thunderstorm was on top of me.

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>And the way I described it is that it engulfed

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 1>that mountain. Wind started to blow, trees started to shake,

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:30.240
<v Speaker 1>rain started to pound the ground, Lightning started to crack.

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>And what did I do? Man? I put my boots

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:38.240
<v Speaker 1>back on and I took off and almost a run

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 1>straight for that turkey. I thought, holy cow, what an

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:46.879
<v Speaker 1>incredible cover to get close to this turkey. And as

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I moving through the woods, I'm carrying my shotgun on

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:53.720
<v Speaker 1>my right hand, and a bolt of lightning strike so close.

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:59.319
<v Speaker 1>I literally threw the shotgun and laid face first on

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the ground and was just praying that I didn't get

0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>struck by lightning. I laid on the ground, and I

0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 1>promise you I threw that shotgun and laid there and

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 1>tell the bulk of that storm passed by me. And

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you know how a thunderstorm is. You know that the

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>peak of it passes and then it's still raining behind it,

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's a little bit less. Well, as soon as

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the peak passed and the thunder the lightning was kind

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 1>of away from me, I went and found my shotgun,

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>and man, I just walked right up. It's still black dark,

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>it's still two hours before daylight. And I just walked

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 1>right up to where I believe that turkey is and

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:38.240
<v Speaker 1>get set up. And I am soaking wet, my gut

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:41.959
<v Speaker 1>is wet, but man, I am in the game. Well,

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 1>daylight comes, birds start chirping, crows start crowing, and that

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:50.280
<v Speaker 1>turkey is there. I know it. I heard him gobling

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:53.720
<v Speaker 1>before the thunderstorm. That he does not say a word.

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:57.799
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't say a word. Fly down time comes and

0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I don't dare yelp at this urkey very

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:02.879
<v Speaker 1>much at all. But I put my diaphragm call in

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:08.720
<v Speaker 1>and I did a a cluck and probably a three

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 1>note yelp, and I put the call up. I was

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>done in directly. Man I just I knew I was

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:17.919
<v Speaker 1>so close to I would see this turkey fly down.

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:21.879
<v Speaker 1>I never saw the turkey fly down. Just right at

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:25.800
<v Speaker 1>about fly down time, I see that sucker as wet

0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:28.400
<v Speaker 1>as a Labrador retriever that just jumped out of a

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 1>river from retrieving a Mallard duck. He comes walking up

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:35.360
<v Speaker 1>the hill, big old beard, just swinging, and he was

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of skirting around me going up the mountain, and

0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:40.719
<v Speaker 1>I kind of wheeled to my right just a little bit,

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:43.359
<v Speaker 1>never gobbled, and man, he raised up his old neck

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 1>and boom, killed that turkey. Man, I've rarely been so

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:50.880
<v Speaker 1>proud of a turkey. And I went and got him,

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and it was just a big gobbler, and I hiped

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:55.319
<v Speaker 1>him out of there, put him in the truck, and

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I took him to Bear John's school and I got

0:47:58.080 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 1>him out of school, and a bunch of the kids

0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:03.400
<v Speaker 1>from class came out. And I killed what I called

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the lightning bird. But I never would have done it

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 1>without Bear's help of telling me right where that sucker

0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 1>was roosted. I'll never forget the old lightning bird. This

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 1>next story, though, it is from my dad, Gary Newcom.

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:22.360
<v Speaker 1>It's important to know going into this that when he

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:26.400
<v Speaker 1>killed this bird, very few people were using bows to

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:30.880
<v Speaker 1>kill spring turkeys, and if they were, they were using blinds,

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>which is something that he didn't want to do. Here's

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:40.840
<v Speaker 1>old Gary Believer Newcomb. Well, you know, years ago what

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what ten fifteen, I had that black

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Max Matthews bow. I'm pretty sure you had your old

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 1>green truck. You were in high school, and uh, back

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:53.880
<v Speaker 1>then we had quite a few turkeys, and I killed.

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I'd usually kill a turkey just about every year, and

0:48:57.200 --> 0:48:59.799
<v Speaker 1>then i'd bow hunt, bow hunt for turkeys, bow hunt

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 1>for turkey. So I went out and UH had my

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:06.400
<v Speaker 1>bowl in that morning. Nothing was gobbling. It just looked

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 1>like a dead morning. And so I went in an

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:11.800
<v Speaker 1>area that I knew how it was quite a few turkeys,

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and UH started climbing a mountain. Got kind of tired,

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:17.839
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, well, this looks pretty good right here.

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I'll just sit down, take a break, and

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 1>uh actually set up, you know, I mean not blinds

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:25.719
<v Speaker 1>or anything, but just set on the ground in a

0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:28.279
<v Speaker 1>place where I could actually shoot. And so I'm sitting

0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 1>there on the side of this mountain, up against a

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:33.239
<v Speaker 1>good tree, which gave me a little camo, had some

0:49:33.320 --> 0:49:36.280
<v Speaker 1>brush out around me, and so I just I'd call,

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:40.799
<v Speaker 1>just normal calling, I'd call, and UH sit there, and

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, fifteen minutes later, it was real dry, and

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I heard what sounded to me like two turkeys, and

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 1>one of them sounded like a big turkey. So in

0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 1>my mind, I had a I had a I had

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 1>a gobbler, big gobbler of Jake coming in. They came

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 1>in about twenty yards above me, and they just kept walking,

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.839
<v Speaker 1>you know. They they walked to the west. You know,

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of looking to the north, and uh, they

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 1>did it just by the textbook. That was what was

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:13.760
<v Speaker 1>so interesting to me. I mean, it's like I figured

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:16.560
<v Speaker 1>this old gobberl was probably a professor. He was teaching

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 1>these young guys what to do. Don't come downhill to

0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:23.800
<v Speaker 1>a call, You'll get shot. So they they go down,

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, out of sight. I never did see them.

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I could just hear them, and and they dropped down

0:50:29.960 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 1>to my level. And then the big gobbler just came in.

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:36.160
<v Speaker 1>The other bird didn't come. I don't know what the

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:39.800
<v Speaker 1>deal was. So I had my bowl ready, had everything

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:42.400
<v Speaker 1>ready to shoot, but the birds coming straight at me,

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:44.320
<v Speaker 1>so I don't get a shot. Well, there's a log

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:49.840
<v Speaker 1>on the ground, you know, eighteen inches tall or so foot,

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 1>and it ran about ten fifteen feet running down the mountain,

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:56.239
<v Speaker 1>and there was a brush at one end, but there

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:58.839
<v Speaker 1>was an opening at the at the top side up here.

0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 1>So I'm sitting there and I mean, this bird put

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:06.719
<v Speaker 1>on a show like I've seen very few times, and

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 1>he came in and he got the strutton, but when

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:12.440
<v Speaker 1>he got to that log, he wouldn't cross it, just

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:16.080
<v Speaker 1>like the textbooks. So he started going up and down

0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 1>that log, and I noticed as he on the log. No, no,

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:21.400
<v Speaker 1>he's not on the log. When you repeated it to

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 1>me the other day, you said on the log, he

0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:25.919
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't on the log. He he he wouldn't come over the log.

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:28.560
<v Speaker 1>He was on the other side of the log, and

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:31.400
<v Speaker 1>he and he would he would strut up, which I

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a shot because he's looking at me. Then

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:36.360
<v Speaker 1>he had turned and he had strut down. And so

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:39.440
<v Speaker 1>when he when he made his turn and started down,

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I had a shot. And so I watched him do

0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:45.360
<v Speaker 1>this two or three times, and I mean he's close.

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's ten fifteen feet away. So once I

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 1>saw his pattern, then then as soon as he came

0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 1>up and he made his turn and I'm like this,

0:51:56.840 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm full draw. And then once he started down that log,

0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I just shot his head off almost, you know, I

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 1>mean it was pretty simple. And so once I shot him,

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I shot him right at the base of the neck.

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:11.799
<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know, when you're when you're shooting with

0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:14.480
<v Speaker 1>a bow, it's pretty hard to kill them unless you

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:16.960
<v Speaker 1>hit him just in the right spot on the wings

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:19.400
<v Speaker 1>or take the head off or something. And I was

0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 1>shooting the big jackhammers. One reason the hunt was special.

0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've got like all hunters, and I had

0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:29.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of turkey kills that were really special. But

0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and the only reason this was so special was that

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the bird put on a big show. He was real close.

0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:40.839
<v Speaker 1>But also nobody was killing birds with a boat. Now.

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 1>When I was off at a big bow shop, I

0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 1>ran into one guy that killed him pretty regularly. And

0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:50.960
<v Speaker 1>one thing he told me, and that's I used that

0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot. He told me that that if you'll cackle

0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:58.400
<v Speaker 1>real hard, they can be looking right at you and

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 1>you can kill them. So I didn't want to blind.

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I knew the blind would work better, but if I

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:05.839
<v Speaker 1>couldn't kill them just looking at him straight in the eyes,

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want. I didn't want to kill one day

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:11.920
<v Speaker 1>an so I never took anything. There were times when

0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I might throw some camo cover out around if it

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:19.839
<v Speaker 1>was really out in the open, but almost never, I just,

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just like to sit in the woods

0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and see if I could get them in close. So

0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 1>there were guys doing it, but not around here. Scott

0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Brown is just a few years older than me. We

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:34.759
<v Speaker 1>grew up in the same town and I've always looked

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:37.439
<v Speaker 1>up to him as a deer and turkey hunter. When

0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I was in my early twenties, I'd spend hours listening

0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 1>to Scott tell turkey and deer stories and describe in

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:48.120
<v Speaker 1>detail how game used mountain terrain. I've never forgot what

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 1>he taught me. Here is one of Scott's favorite stories.

0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:55.640
<v Speaker 1>My friend of mine, Randy Steph, had called me and

0:53:55.680 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 1>some man we ought to tell what we ought to

0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:59.440
<v Speaker 1>do on Wednesday, and we're off, I said, turkey in

0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:01.439
<v Speaker 1>I well, I guess we could do that. I said,

0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where we go. I hadn't been out,

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:05.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know, i'd I'd be going in the blind,

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:07.719
<v Speaker 1>but go to a place that's pretty familiar with and

0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:10.000
<v Speaker 1>we probably find a bird. He says. Man, I'm game

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 1>for whatever. So drove in here west of town kind

0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of access this mountain that I like to hunt from

0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:17.640
<v Speaker 1>the south side. You know, we got in here extra

0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 1>early because it's a it's a good thirty minute pull

0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:22.880
<v Speaker 1>from the time you get out of the truck to

0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the top of the mountain probably, So we pulled it

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:27.560
<v Speaker 1>on on on top and there was kind of a

0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:29.839
<v Speaker 1>big gap in there, and we sat around in there

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:33.240
<v Speaker 1>till daylight, and there was a turkey that started gobbling

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 1>on the south side of the mountain across a big

0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:39.400
<v Speaker 1>holla out there. Within the first couple of hours of daylight,

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Scott and Randy moving on a bird that was a

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 1>long ways away. He was gobbling every breath, but by

0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the time they made it to him, so did someone else,

0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:54.080
<v Speaker 1>and the bird got spooked. The boys were pretty down.

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I think we're both a little bit disappointed that that

0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:00.839
<v Speaker 1>didn't work out. So decided we're gonn to work our

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:03.280
<v Speaker 1>way back. So we pulled back up kind of headed

0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 1>east and I told Brandy, we said, let's walk up

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 1>this ridge and we'll get out in this divide up

0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:09.760
<v Speaker 1>hair is a really good place and we'll spend some time.

0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:12.279
<v Speaker 1>So he pulled this big ridge just one of those

0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:14.759
<v Speaker 1>places when you walk into it you just know, you know,

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:18.279
<v Speaker 1>it's just a beautiful place. Everything ties together right there.

0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I walked in there. I said, Randy, you might not

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:21.600
<v Speaker 1>know what you're looking at right here, but I said,

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I know of half a dozen big gobblers have been

0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:26.919
<v Speaker 1>killed right here in this divide in my lifetime. I mean,

0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:30.080
<v Speaker 1>this is the spot. We sit around there about five

0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:32.799
<v Speaker 1>minutes probably, and I decided I was gonna call. And

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:35.319
<v Speaker 1>when I called, a turkey dis gobbled above us on

0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the mountain, just just like like it's supposed to happen.

0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 1>And when he gobbled, Randy looked at me and I said, Randy,

0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:46.200
<v Speaker 1>we're about to kill this turkey. And he said, all right,

0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 1>where do you What do we need to do? And

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I said, just get right out there, but that big

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:51.399
<v Speaker 1>pine tree face your gun towards the mountain, right there

0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:53.520
<v Speaker 1>in those open woods, and I said, were we are

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 1>where that turkey wants to be? Anyway, in a minute,

0:55:56.760 --> 0:55:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the turkey hadn't seen anything, so I'm gonna call him

0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:00.719
<v Speaker 1>one more time. See where he's at. When I called

0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:03.879
<v Speaker 1>that time, that turkey gobbled, and I mean we should

0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:05.959
<v Speaker 1>have been looking at him, you know, he's just right there.

0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:11.000
<v Speaker 1>And about that time I looked past Randy looking towards

0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the foot of the mountain, and I see the bird

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:15.680
<v Speaker 1>fan out. And when I saw the fan come up,

0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I saw Randy kind of get down on his shotgun.

0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:20.760
<v Speaker 1>And it's a pretty good ways it's fifty sixty yards

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 1>through the woods to where this turkey's fanned out. Well,

0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at a bird over fifty yards away probably,

0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, I hear I mean bad close.

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't even have my shotgun up. I gota laid

0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:37.359
<v Speaker 1>across my lap, you know, just kind of kick back

0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:41.400
<v Speaker 1>to watch the show. Anyway. I said, Randy, did you

0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:43.120
<v Speaker 1>hear that? And Randy never said a word. He just

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:45.560
<v Speaker 1>because the whole time he's looking at what he believes

0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:47.960
<v Speaker 1>as the turkey that we're trying to kill here, and

0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:50.400
<v Speaker 1>so am I. And about that time, just again just

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 1>just close, really close, and I can't I can't find

0:56:56.120 --> 0:56:58.680
<v Speaker 1>this turkey. And I'm thinking, there's no way that turkey.

0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the one I'm here. There's a big

0:57:01.080 --> 0:57:03.600
<v Speaker 1>old bull pine tree. I'm when I'm talking, one of

0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:08.319
<v Speaker 1>them huge pines, about ten steps in front of Randy.

0:57:08.560 --> 0:57:12.680
<v Speaker 1>So this big gobbler just steps out behind this bullpine

0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:15.800
<v Speaker 1>tree in about ten yards from Randy's gunn barrel. What

0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:18.720
<v Speaker 1>had happened? He came in to us right behind that

0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:21.360
<v Speaker 1>pine tree the whole time, and we just just never

0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:23.640
<v Speaker 1>saw him. And he steps out front this pine tree

0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:26.400
<v Speaker 1>he's just right on top of us. Of course, I panic.

0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there with my shotgun laid across my lap,

0:57:29.360 --> 0:57:32.000
<v Speaker 1>wishing I had it on my knee because Randy's out

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:34.840
<v Speaker 1>of position. He's aiming at these other turkeys. The turkey

0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:37.520
<v Speaker 1>comes up hard to his right. Anyway, the turkey just

0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:39.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of just kind of walks out behind that pine,

0:57:39.920 --> 0:57:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and the walks behind another big pine. And when he does,

0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Randy's able to He did, he did perfect. He just

0:57:46.240 --> 0:57:48.560
<v Speaker 1>stayed still until the turkey got behind the next pine

0:57:48.720 --> 0:57:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and he just swung the barrel over, got it up

0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:53.200
<v Speaker 1>on his knee. Turkey walks out from behind the pine,

0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:57.200
<v Speaker 1>hasn't seen any of that go down, and Randy just bam,

0:57:57.400 --> 0:58:00.440
<v Speaker 1>he shoots, and when he shoots, he just kills the

0:58:00.480 --> 0:58:04.760
<v Speaker 1>turkey stone dead, which rarely ever happens. Right, So you

0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 1>shoot probably nine of turkeys. You shoot flop for a

0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:09.760
<v Speaker 1>little bit after you shoot him. He pulled the cord

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:11.760
<v Speaker 1>on this thing. Look when he shoots, the thing just

0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:14.480
<v Speaker 1>falls over stone dead. Of course, there's a big commotion,

0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and these other turkeys blow up and fly off and

0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:18.560
<v Speaker 1>all this other stuff, and so Raine's kind of standing there.

0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:20.440
<v Speaker 1>He goes tell you just had to look on his face.

0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:23.920
<v Speaker 1>He said, I don't know how I missed that turkey. Randy,

0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:25.800
<v Speaker 1>you didn't miss that turkey. He's like, I didn't. I

0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, no, that thing. He's laying stone dead right there.

0:58:28.760 --> 0:58:31.040
<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, man, He's like, because I thought i'd missed.

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:32.760
<v Speaker 1>When I shot, he was nowhere to be found. I

0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:35.360
<v Speaker 1>thought he was just gone, you know. I'm like, no, man,

0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:37.800
<v Speaker 1>he's laying right there. You killed him, you know. So anyway,

0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:39.440
<v Speaker 1>we jump up and go out there, and I mean,

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:41.240
<v Speaker 1>he's killed a dandy. I mean it's a you know,

0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:44.960
<v Speaker 1>close to a twenty pound turkey, had good beard and

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 1>spurs and all that. And he's like, what do you

0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:49.080
<v Speaker 1>wanna do down? I said, let's pull back up on

0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:51.760
<v Speaker 1>the mountain where we started out this morning. So we

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:54.120
<v Speaker 1>pulled back up and on the main mountain, walked out

0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:56.200
<v Speaker 1>across what we called a big gap. It kind of

0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:58.200
<v Speaker 1>got back around in there. We got in there and

0:58:58.200 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I said, Randy, that turkey this morning, it was about

0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:02.880
<v Speaker 1>halfway down this leg. I want to call right here

0:59:02.960 --> 0:59:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and let's just see what happens. And man, I put

0:59:05.920 --> 0:59:08.400
<v Speaker 1>my calm my mouth. I called one time that turkey

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:11.920
<v Speaker 1>just gobbled big right below us. This is about eleven

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the morning, and I really wanting to gobble

0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:15.960
<v Speaker 1>again without me calling him, so I'm just kind of

0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>sitting there waiting on the gobble. Well, he gobbled, but

0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 1>when he did he was half the distance. In fact,

0:59:22.200 --> 0:59:24.880
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't much out of sight from us, and so

0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:28.360
<v Speaker 1>we just had to take what we had right there. Randy,

0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:30.760
<v Speaker 1>sit down right there. I sat down, I got my

0:59:30.840 --> 0:59:33.480
<v Speaker 1>gun up, and by the time I got my gun up,

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I reached down and grabbed my face mask, which was

0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:37.440
<v Speaker 1>down around my neck, and I pulled it up over

0:59:37.480 --> 0:59:40.800
<v Speaker 1>my face. And when I pulled that face mask over

0:59:40.840 --> 0:59:42.959
<v Speaker 1>my face and put my hand back down on my gun,

0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I looked and can see that turkey coming the whole time.

0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:47.920
<v Speaker 1>He's instruct Randy immediate is like I seen him, and

0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, I've caught him right here. He's

0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:51.680
<v Speaker 1>coming round with the leg to us. He just keeps

0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:54.040
<v Speaker 1>coming up. The leg to us, just keeps coming, just

0:59:54.120 --> 0:59:57.240
<v Speaker 1>keeps coming. Anyway. It kind of starts around to my left,

0:59:57.240 --> 0:59:58.480
<v Speaker 1>which is be kind of the east of me there,

0:59:58.520 --> 1:00:00.320
<v Speaker 1>starts around to my left a little bit. The whole

1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:02.400
<v Speaker 1>time his turkeys and struck like he has not dropped

1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:04.080
<v Speaker 1>out of strut even to take a step. I mean,

1:00:04.080 --> 1:00:06.800
<v Speaker 1>he's just coming the whole time strut. He's drumming good.

1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean the whole he's doing everything you want a

1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:11.520
<v Speaker 1>turkey to do. You know. He finally gets down here below.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably about forty yards, maybe a little bit more gobbles. Look,

1:00:15.280 --> 1:00:17.439
<v Speaker 1>try to add his kind of gobbles. All I'm really

1:00:17.440 --> 1:00:19.200
<v Speaker 1>waiting on at this point is for him to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of strut. Anyway. He swings around there, swings around,

1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and he just won't drop out of strut, and he's

1:00:23.000 --> 1:00:25.080
<v Speaker 1>about to get around to my left heart enough that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not gonna be able to swing around anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So finally he walked out there and open, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just cut at him a little bit. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>cut out him through his head up big, just like

1:00:33.640 --> 1:00:36.240
<v Speaker 1>you want. I shot him at about thirty yards, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pulled the double. There can't be a better feeling than

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<v Speaker 1>walking out of the spring hardwoods with two big gobblers.

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<v Speaker 1>Our last story is told by a young author and

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<v Speaker 1>aspiring media personality named Steve ronnella of Meat Eater. He

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<v Speaker 1>just recently published a book called outdoor kids in an

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<v Speaker 1>inside world. You might want to check it out. You

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<v Speaker 1>might be surprised to to know that turkey hunting is

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<v Speaker 1>probably Steve's favorite animal to hunt, and he's chased after

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them. Steve always has some insight and

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<v Speaker 1>a good story. Here's Steve. Now. I like UH books,

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<v Speaker 1>like films, I like to cook. But when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to UH, you know, physical disciplines, right, Like I'm only

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<v Speaker 1>interested in one thing. I'm interested in hunting and fishing

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<v Speaker 1>and trapping three things. But I imagine I'm all sort

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<v Speaker 1>of bundled together as a single entity. Anyhow. I have kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I put a lot of pressure on my

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<v Speaker 1>kids to do what I like to do. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>want to take them to do what I like to

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<v Speaker 1>do because I am my best as a parent when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in an arena that that resonates with me and

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<v Speaker 1>brings passion. I want them to see like discipline, passion, drive,

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<v Speaker 1>like manifested to the things we do. I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>if like if someone told me, like in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter, hung and tell a story about if someone

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<v Speaker 1>told me that when my daughter is twenty, she's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>like move to l a and open a smoothie shop. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be liked. I'd be like, okay, good, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad she'll go there and do that. Knowing the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>she knows from the time she spent with her old

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<v Speaker 1>man out hunting and fishing. I'm glad I armed her

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<v Speaker 1>with those experiences. Right. So it's not like a means

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<v Speaker 1>to an end. It's sort of an end in itself.

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<v Speaker 1>In the state where I live, a kid's gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>ten start hunting turkeys. Other than Montana, right, there's other states,

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of them in fact, But this particular one

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<v Speaker 1>has story has to do with Wisconsin, where they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that age requirement. As long as they're worth their

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<v Speaker 1>mentor a licensed mentor, right, they hunt whatever age it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's as it should be, and it's up to

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<v Speaker 1>the family to decide when it's appropriate for a kid

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<v Speaker 1>to hunt. So when my daughter got to be eight

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<v Speaker 1>years old, this is last spring, I packed her up

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<v Speaker 1>and took her out to Wisconsin for the youth turkey season.

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<v Speaker 1>In preparation for this, I'm pounding in her head that

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna shoot a turkey, like we're gonna call in

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<v Speaker 1>a turkey she's gonna shoot the turkey in the head.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get her a little break open four ten shotgun,

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<v Speaker 1>and we loaded with the stuff called federal ts s

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<v Speaker 1>right like Tongusten super shot. Right. It makes it that

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<v Speaker 1>you can shoot it four ten but really deal death

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<v Speaker 1>on turkeys with such a small caliber, if you will, shotgun.

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<v Speaker 1>To make it easier for her to aim, I put

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<v Speaker 1>a red dot site on it, so we start shooting

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<v Speaker 1>at targets to look like turkeys, and I load her

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<v Speaker 1>up with game load, like a load that doesn't kick

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<v Speaker 1>that strong, not that very a very powerful load, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so she doesn't learn to flinch from the re coil

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<v Speaker 1>and the noise. And we just train her up on that,

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<v Speaker 1>aiming this little break open shotgun with a red dot

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<v Speaker 1>site at turkey targets. And I'm like pounding in her head,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, you gotta aim for the waddles, right,

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<v Speaker 1>aim for the waddles, aimed for the wattles. And I

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<v Speaker 1>make it in her head that the measure of success

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<v Speaker 1>as a turkey hunter is whether or not you aimed

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<v Speaker 1>for the wattles and shot the turkey in the head.

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<v Speaker 1>And I even told her everything else, everything else, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be heavily involved. But when it comes to that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your job, right. So we go out and youth

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<v Speaker 1>turkey seasons come early in the year, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>it could be like a snow blizzard, right because it's

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<v Speaker 1>in April. But we go out and it's just glorious weather.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, we go out and has some encounters, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it gets to be late in the afternoon and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of gobblers just ripping up on this

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<v Speaker 1>ridge line at my buddy Dugs place. So imagine you've

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<v Speaker 1>got like a gentle uh Wisconsin driftless area valley floor.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a creek running through the bottom. On either side

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<v Speaker 1>of this brushy creek bed, you've got corn fields and

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<v Speaker 1>then the corn fields kinda at the edge of the

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<v Speaker 1>corn fields, and then you enter mixed forest, hardwoods, pines,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of briars, grape vine um, multi flora rose. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we hear these gobblers ripping up on this ridgeline and

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<v Speaker 1>we go greasing up to the edge of the corn

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<v Speaker 1>field to where we can get some cover, leaning on

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<v Speaker 1>this pine tree, and there's one gobbler in particular going

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<v Speaker 1>hammering up there. I put a hen decoy and then

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie and I back up about twenty yards from that

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<v Speaker 1>hen decoy and we lean against this big white pine

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<v Speaker 1>and we're facing the decoy and the birds are goblin.

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<v Speaker 1>What's now to our left? We just had to put

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<v Speaker 1>the decoy the clear like like the only clear kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shooting land we had. And this gobbler strutting up

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<v Speaker 1>and down the ridge top just hammering. And after a

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<v Speaker 1>while it hammers its way down to where it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not to our left anymore, but it's like way behind us,

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<v Speaker 1>to our left, and then it starts coming. And eventually

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking out my peripheral vision and I can I

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<v Speaker 1>can like sense and see this gobbler goblin and also drumming,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like like right off to my side, man.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just telling my daughter, who's facing towards the decoy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Rosie, do not move. I'm like, Rosie, do

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<v Speaker 1>not say a word, don't talk, don't talk, don't move,

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<v Speaker 1>don't move, do not talk. Right, And I'm just pounding

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<v Speaker 1>us in their head because this birds come and come

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<v Speaker 1>and come and coming, and this thing passes us by,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think I could have reached out and grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>its neck. But then it's got to pass us by,

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<v Speaker 1>but then walk twenty yards before she's going to become

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<v Speaker 1>aware of its presence, right, And you know, I could

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<v Speaker 1>have just swung around and shot it, but I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to like get a good shot opportunity for so the

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<v Speaker 1>bird comes to get this too. That Rosemary is like

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<v Speaker 1>shorter than I am, and she's in my lab, so

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<v Speaker 1>my view at my eye line is different than her

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<v Speaker 1>view from her eye line. My eye line is like

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<v Speaker 1>crystal clear out to the decoy. Her eyeline, unbeknownst to me,

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<v Speaker 1>is just a bunch of sticks. But this is her

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<v Speaker 1>first like real close encounter shooting at a gobler, so

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't even know to mention it to me. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this gobler passes me by and it gets to the decoy,

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<v Speaker 1>and this thing is like trying to assault the decoy. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's fooled. And I'm telling Rosemary, I'm waiting for the

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<v Speaker 1>gobbler to get in like the right position where it's

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<v Speaker 1>holding still. I'm like, shoot, shoot, shoot, and damn she shoots.

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<v Speaker 1>And Norman want alone shoots at a turkey, expect turkey

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<v Speaker 1>just to pile up, right, This turkey doesn't This turkey

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<v Speaker 1>kind of spins and then lifts off, flying and it

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<v Speaker 1>flies across the cornfield we're in, flies over the brushy creek,

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<v Speaker 1>flies across the other corn field on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the creek, and burrows into the nastiest briar patch

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever seen, to the point where it burrows into

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<v Speaker 1>that briar patch and basically imprisons itself in the briar patch,

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<v Speaker 1>like it couldn't leave if it wanted to leave out

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<v Speaker 1>of the briar patch. So I grabbed her we go

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<v Speaker 1>running down across the creek up the other side. I

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<v Speaker 1>am shoots the turkey again, and rather than it being

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<v Speaker 1>like a triumphant moment for her, she is just disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>in herself because that first shot, she hid it in

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<v Speaker 1>the leg, and she said, once we got to analyze them,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. She said, I couldn't see his head and

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<v Speaker 1>you had to shoot, so I had to shoot and

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<v Speaker 1>the only part, that's the only part I could see.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, well, why didn't you say that you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't see its head? And she said, you told me

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<v Speaker 1>not to say anything. So I felt pretty bad. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I felt like I was trying to move the

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<v Speaker 1>goal post, so to speak. I had so focused on

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<v Speaker 1>marksmanship and hit in the head. Then, even though she

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<v Speaker 1>got the turkey, which was like the result we were

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<v Speaker 1>actually after, in her head, it was somehow like her

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<v Speaker 1>first hunt was a failure because I hadn't said our

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<v Speaker 1>goal is getting a turkey. I had said, your job

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<v Speaker 1>is shooting that turkey in the head. Advanced ahead of year.

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<v Speaker 1>Next few turkey season, we get a bird comes in

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<v Speaker 1>and bam, head shot. Bird just piles up in her head.

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<v Speaker 1>If you went and asked you, if you went and

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed her right now, she would tell you the that

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<v Speaker 1>was my first turkey anybody, But what about the other turkey?

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<v Speaker 1>You got? No? Because I didn't hit it in the head.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had asked her this year after we hunted,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you need to write a thank you note

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<v Speaker 1>to the landowner where we hunted and write him a

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<v Speaker 1>letter and thank you for letting him hunt. And she

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<v Speaker 1>writes her letter, and I read her letter, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>like all this stuff like as your property and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and she gets to the end and a paraphrase a

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<v Speaker 1>part of this and directly quote her the other part.

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<v Speaker 1>She basically says, if you really stop and think about it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is technically my second turkey. But the last line

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<v Speaker 1>in her note verbatim is but this is the first

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<v Speaker 1>one I nailed. For the first few seconds that I

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<v Speaker 1>see a guyler's red head bobbing through the timber coming

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<v Speaker 1>to my call, after I've only heard him gobble, I

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<v Speaker 1>am mesmerized to the point of emotional trauma. I continued

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<v Speaker 1>to be amazed at how it feels like a gobbler

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<v Speaker 1>can look into your soul, scrutinizing every square inch of

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<v Speaker 1>your beam. It feels like he can hear your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>For a moment, you're completely out of control. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even make rational sense. But it's at this moment we

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<v Speaker 1>connect to and flow inside of something. Primal chemicals are

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<v Speaker 1>released in the body, no less addictive than crack, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the spirit, which science can't track, flames to red

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<v Speaker 1>hot interaction with a wild place that's such an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>time of year, the spring is surely something special. The moment, however,

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<v Speaker 1>is ephemeral. It doesn't last long. It either quickly evaporates

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<v Speaker 1>as the turkey slides into the timber after a soft put.

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<v Speaker 1>But now and then the plan comes together and the

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<v Speaker 1>big gobbler steps into range and you get to take

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<v Speaker 1>him home after the blast of a shotgun or the

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<v Speaker 1>release of an arrow. This happened so few times in

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<v Speaker 1>one's lifetime that most of us keep detailed counts of

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<v Speaker 1>its occurrence. We notch knife handles, keep the beard and

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<v Speaker 1>spurs of turkeys, we collect their tail. Fans, think about that,

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<v Speaker 1>how many things do you actually keep count of in

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<v Speaker 1>your life? Like we said in the last podcast, turkeys,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the Southeast, are in a tougher spot than

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<v Speaker 1>they've been in a while, and we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>work hard to protect and improve habitat and be cooperative

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<v Speaker 1>with our state game agencies as they begin to manage

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<v Speaker 1>turkeys in a new era. Opportunity is key to igniting passion,

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<v Speaker 1>and passion is the gateway to getting humans excited about

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<v Speaker 1>protecting wildlife. It's a fine balance between a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to hunters protecting the resource in the in whatever

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<v Speaker 1>we have to do will be worth it to see

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<v Speaker 1>that big red headed gobbler strutton through the timber in

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<v Speaker 1>the April's yet to come. Long live the goblin turkey. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you next week on The Bear Grease Render