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Speaker 1: tonight they absolutely got shredded. And big picture, it's the

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Speaker 1: Devonte Smith, because that's who the Niners are comparing themselves to. Right,

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Speaker 1: I thought it tonight was pretty embarrassing. It really was.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing to come out slow on the road

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Speaker 1: Monday night, okay, Viking super Bowl. It's another thing to

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Speaker 1: a chess match. The reason a lot of coaches can't

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Speaker 1: the problem where kircuses is good. Obviously tonight in prime time.

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Speaker 1: playing this team, he was fucking brilliant. He was incredible,

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Speaker 1: franchise him for a franchise tag. He doesn't have his

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Speaker 1: date in which his contract do. Floria. I couldn't quite

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Speaker 1: understand they want to clear their books. All that stuff

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Speaker 1: like many, I watched the beginning of that game and

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Speaker 1: I saw dish Sean Watson looked like one of the

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Speaker 1: worst players in the NFL. And if you are objective

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Speaker 1: about Deshaun Watson's short tenure with the Browns. When he's

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Speaker 1: been on the field, it has been an utter disaster.

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Speaker 1: He has been an awful football player. Now, if you

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Speaker 1: want to give him the benefit of the doubt last

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Speaker 1: year because he hadn't been playing in two years, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this year, no one can argue he doesn't look remotely

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Speaker 1: close to the quote unquote star player that we saw

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Speaker 1: years ago with the Houston Texans, and it was drafted

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Speaker 1: high out of Clemson that was beating Alabama in the

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Speaker 1: National Championship. Well, after watching the Browns handle the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers defensively, you can't even argue that their talent

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Speaker 1: and their high end on defense is elite. Clearly didn't

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Speaker 1: bring the same energy against Gardner Minshew Miles Garrett did.

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Speaker 1: But overall, their talent on their team offense as well,

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Speaker 1: skill guys, backup running backs, offensive line, tight end is

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Speaker 1: really really good. But after yesterday, and I've read flag

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Speaker 1: this entire year with Deshaun Watson, the shoulder injury, him

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Speaker 1: and the team not exactly being on the same page,

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Speaker 1: the messaging being weird. Even yesterday, he got slammed to

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Speaker 1: the ground, He got slammed hard, looked like, you know,

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Speaker 1: head got rattled cleared the concussion protocol. Stefanski claimed it

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Speaker 1: was his choice not to put him back in. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what to believe, Like I said, giant red

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Speaker 1: flag on the situation. Don't know, but it's weird. That's

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Speaker 1: off the field on the field, awful off the field,

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Speaker 1: weird kind of the Deshaun Watson experience. The problem is

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Speaker 1: they owe him two hundred and twenty nine million dollars.

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Speaker 1: So I googled the contract today and one thing I

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Speaker 1: noticed is this season, in twenty twenty three, his salary

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Speaker 1: cap hit, meaning what he accounts for in the pie

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Speaker 1: of their salary cap for this season is nineteen million dollars, which,

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Speaker 1: you know, for a highly paid quarterback, is not that crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's not that uh, you know, that's a positive. Any

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Speaker 1: team that has an older veteran guy, they're paying a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. A nineteen million dollar salary cap hit

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Speaker 1: is not nuts. Here's the problem in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, in twenty twenty six, that cap

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Speaker 1: hit jumps to sixty three million dollars, almost sixty four

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Speaker 1: million dollars, sixty three nine seven seven. So the difference

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Speaker 1: this year and next year in moving forward is gonna

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Speaker 1: be over forty three million dollars. So this year they're

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Speaker 1: able to build this really good team because they're not

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Speaker 1: paying the quarterback this much. Well, moving forward, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: lose a ton of salary cap space because of this player,

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Speaker 1: which in the grand scheme of things, if your quarterback

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Speaker 1: is elite, if he's gonna play like Mahomes did yesterday

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Speaker 1: or Lamar Jackson did yesterday, who cares, it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 1: That's what the price it costs. That's the price of

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Speaker 1: admission for these top quarterbacks, and you need them to

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Speaker 1: be elite and make up that gap of having to

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Speaker 1: let some veterans go, having to trade to Tyreek Hill,

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Speaker 1: having to do some of that stuff and develop younger players.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem, and you see it on a little

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Speaker 1: bit higher level. I think Russell Wilson currently is a

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Speaker 1: better player in Deshaun Watson. When you're paying a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that much and you've given up that much draft capital

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Speaker 1: and they are not playing even remotely close to the

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Speaker 1: standard of the guy in which you invested in and

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Speaker 1: thought you were getting, you're fucked. It's over. So if

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Speaker 1: I'm a Browns fan, you better figure out a way

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Speaker 1: to be competitive this year, which you are, but I

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Speaker 1: mean in the playoffs, you better figure out a way

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Speaker 1: to win a playoff game, maybe win two, and compete

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Speaker 1: because it's over after this year. If this is the

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Speaker 1: quarterback you have. And let's face it, he has not

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Speaker 1: been a good player in a long, long time. The

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Speaker 1: days of Deshaun Watson being a star are like four

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Speaker 1: years ago. And one thing we've learned in pro sports

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Speaker 1: coaches or players, sometimes we hold on to the past.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big hold onto the pass guy. My

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Speaker 1: mom loves telling me stories about this and that from

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm not a big hold onto like

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Speaker 1: high school stories, college stories. I'm not saying I won't

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Speaker 1: talk about them if I'm having a beer with people

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Speaker 1: I went to those you know, college with. But I

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Speaker 1: don't spend a lot of time on a daily basis

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Speaker 1: thinking about it. I think forward, and I think most

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Speaker 1: and I'm just saying that, like I try to copy

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Speaker 1: other successful people because like look forward, do not live

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Speaker 1: in the rear view mirror, and a lot of times

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Speaker 1: we do that. Well, Sean Payton was really good? Was

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Speaker 1: he good? Now? I say the same thing with Belichick

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Speaker 1: That's true, but he hasn't been that good in like

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Speaker 1: five years. So it's like, what are we holding on

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Speaker 1: to twenty fourteen? It's twenty twenty three. I never understand,

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Speaker 1: you know, the people that are like my age, that

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Speaker 1: go God, I wish I could go back to college,

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Speaker 1: you do. I fucking love my life and I can't

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Speaker 1: wait for the next ten years, the next twenty years.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed those times, but I would You couldn't pay

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Speaker 1: me to have no money and be twenty years old.

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Speaker 1: Fuck that. I would much rather be doing what I'm

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Speaker 1: doing now, just like I'm looking forward to the next

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Speaker 1: five years. If you're not, like, you're probably not in

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Speaker 1: the great headspace. And I think right now with Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: we're holding on to the past. I'm not, and I

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Speaker 1: bet most people that don't think he's any good r

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Speaker 1: but the Browns kind of are because so Stefanski mentioned this,

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Speaker 1: like he's still our franchise quarterback. No, man, like, you

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Speaker 1: guys are screwed. You have major, major drums and clearly

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Speaker 1: you couldn't go far with PJ. Walker. But I don't

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Speaker 1: think he can go far with Shan Watson either this year,

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Speaker 1: but this is gonna be your best chance because at

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Speaker 1: least a team around him is good because next year

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Speaker 1: the team's gonna be a shell of himself. Another thing

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Speaker 1: that I noticed yesterday, and you just notice as the

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Speaker 1: season goes on, when bridge starting quarterbacks or backup quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: have to start games, they can have a moment, right

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Speaker 1: You can have a game where you throw a couple

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Speaker 1: of touchdowns and you win the game. But over the

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Speaker 1: course of game in, game out, and over the course

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Speaker 1: of course of a month, maybe a month and a half,

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinators and the league gets the tape on you,

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Speaker 1: gets to find out your strengths and your weaknesses, what

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Speaker 1: you're doing well and what you're not doing well. You

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Speaker 1: eventually will get exposed. And it's like anyone could have

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Speaker 1: sold real estate in twenty twenty one, you sell real

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Speaker 1: estate right now mid October twenty twenty three, you're flipping homes.

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Speaker 1: You haven't any success because if you are, you're good

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Speaker 1: at your job. Most people are probably getting exposed. And

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Speaker 1: you see it all the time with backup quarterbacks. Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield first couple games like oh, Baker Mayfield is back.

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Speaker 1: Hell I even gave him credit. He was awful yesterday. Objectively,

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Speaker 1: the last two weeks he's been terrible. And here's the

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Speaker 1: thing with Baker. He's a backup quarterback. And when backup

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks have to play a full season, they're gonna look

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Speaker 1: worse as the thing goes on. Same thing with Jordan Love.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's getting more clear and clear by the game.

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Speaker 1: He's a backup, and there's nothing wrong with that. Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love can have a ten year NFL career, but he's

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Speaker 1: a backup quarterback. Then if he has to play a game,

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Speaker 1: he's got a chance. But if he's got to start

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Speaker 1: on a weekly basis, prepare game plan, good luck. You

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Speaker 1: see it with Sam Howe. You see with all these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Hell you see with Tyrod Taylor, who's one who won

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Speaker 1: yesterday against Washington and two weeks ago could have won

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Speaker 1: against the Buffalo Bills. If Tyrod Taylor has to start

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Speaker 1: half the season, you have no chance right now. You

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Speaker 1: might probably don't have a chance with Daniel Jones either,

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Speaker 1: who probably is like a you know, back end starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It turns out to be. And I think anytime you

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Speaker 1: get down the road, and you think you have something,

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Speaker 1: you find out pretty quickly that like, yeah, we're playing

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Speaker 1: a backup quarterback, and it shows itself really really quickly.

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Speaker 1: And some quarterbacks play themselves in to being backup quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest, what I see out of Derek Carr

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Speaker 1: right now, he's playing himself into becoming a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Now he's better than all the guys I just listed,

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Speaker 1: But that's the road he's headed down, right, and I

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Speaker 1: think it can change on you fast. Here's the other

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Speaker 1: thing in the NFL, because so many quarterbacks on a

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Speaker 1: yearly basis come into the league cycles fast. Man. It

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Speaker 1: used to be all these guys because they were good players.

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Speaker 1: So many guys were basically this is gonna sound unfair,

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Speaker 1: like on scholarship, like Eli Manning, Philip Rivers. They weren't

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Speaker 1: going anywhere. Now it's like, I gotta spend so much

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Speaker 1: on you if you're not the guy who's got to

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Speaker 1: move on. And luckily, for the most part, every year

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Speaker 1: in the draft you're getting a lot of options. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean these guys are gonna be good. Like this notion

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Speaker 1: that Caleb Williams and Drake may are just gonna save

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Speaker 1: your franchise. I like both players, both have a lot

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Speaker 1: of talent. Watch them both pretty closely this week. No guarantee.

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Speaker 1: You go to the wrong situation with no talent around you,

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Speaker 1: the wrong coach, it could be a disaster. So we're

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Speaker 1: seeing it all around the NFL, and I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys are showing themselves to be who they

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Speaker 1: really are. Ridd or two with Atlanta, I know they

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Speaker 1: won the game. It's a backup quarterback, right, it's a

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback. Bill Belichick big win, really big win. That

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Speaker 1: was impressive. And as a coach texted me, he was

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Speaker 1: at his house on a buy watching the game. Belichick

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Speaker 1: wasn't gonna go out quietly. And there's the problem with

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Speaker 1: the Bill tanking is like he's just too good of

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Speaker 1: a coach and he's not gonna quit that. He's more likely,

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Speaker 1: even if the team is just beyond shitty, which I

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Speaker 1: don't think they're very good, he's more likely to draft

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Speaker 1: eight than he is. Like he's never drafted one or two.

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Speaker 1: But one thing is a little inflated with Bill is

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Speaker 1: against his division. Look at him this season. He's played

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Speaker 1: Miami really close, could have won that game. He beat

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Speaker 1: the Bills and he beat the Jets. They got two

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Speaker 1: wins on the season. They both come from the division.

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Speaker 1: Well why is that? Can you imagine the scattering report

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Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick has on Josh Allen and Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: and Stefan Dick. Can you imagine the knowledge that he

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00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: had on his divisional opponents. Not only does he play

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Speaker 1: him twice a year, but the other two opponents also

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Speaker 1: play those guys twice a year. So the amount of

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Speaker 1: cross tape he watches on just let's use Josh Allen specifically,

642
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: is probably pretty outrageous. The amount of times he's at

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Speaker 1: his office with the clicker and Josh Allen is on

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Speaker 1: the screen, whether he's playing him or playing an opponent

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Speaker 1: that he's playing. Same goes for the Jets and obviously

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins as well, so he gets to have inside knowledge.

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Speaker 1: If you asked me right now, John, if Colin called

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Speaker 1: me up and like, I need you to do a

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Speaker 1: five hour podcast on the forty nine ers, every angle,

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Speaker 1: the franchise, every position group, the coaching staff, the front office,

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Speaker 1: I can handle it. I mean I'd have to do

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00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: a little research, but it would be it would be

653
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Speaker 1: possible right. If you said, John, I need you to

654
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: do the same thing, but for the Tampa Bay Bucks

655
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: or the Atlanta Falcons, I'd be screwed. It would take

656
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: me a lot longer to even have a chance to

657
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: do that. We'll look at Belichick. When he's played his

658
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: divisional opponents look pretty good. They actually, yesterday looked like

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Speaker 1: a real team. When he plays random teams the Saints,

660
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: who aren't any good, he gets fucking curb stumped. He

661
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: gets destroyed. So I'm not acting like what happened yesterday

662
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Speaker 1: is all that shocking, because I think one thing we

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Speaker 1: learned when Belichick plays divisional opponents, He's not just gonna

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Speaker 1: have a chance. He might win the game. When he

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Speaker 1: plays anyone else, they could easily lose. And when the

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Speaker 1: dust sattles, I think they're a four or five win team,

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Speaker 1: and the next couple wins will probably also come in

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Speaker 1: the division. The other story though, with him, was it

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Speaker 1: leaked that he got a contract extension, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people theorize that Bill leaked it. Right, if Kraft

671
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Speaker 1: was gonna leak support of Bill, he would just come

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Speaker 1: out and say, no matter what happens, Bill Belichick is

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Speaker 1: my head coach moving forward, he will be the coach

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Speaker 1: season and beyond. He hasn't done that. So this notion

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Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick signed a contract extension, which even if

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00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: it was short, let's just say, let's say it was

677
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Speaker 1: this two years, fifty million dollars kind of like, Bill,

678
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Speaker 1: we appreciate everything you've done, all this money and wealth

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Speaker 1: you've made the Craft family. Here's we'll pay you on

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00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: top of whatever you had a year left on your contract.

681
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Speaker 1: We'll give you what had two years and fifty twenty

682
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year. What does that mean for

683
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Speaker 1: his job security? That for an NFL team, for Robert Craft,

684
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: that's a fucking line item. That'd be like middle coff.

685
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Speaker 1: You got to pay this worker that's in the kitchen

686
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: right now a grand I mean it beams nothing. These

687
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: numbers to normal people, including myself, look big on paper. Away.

688
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Speaker 1: They gotta pay him fifty million dollars to go away?

689
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 1: Do you know how fast Robert Craft could sign that check? Now,

690
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: maybe Bill knows. Would they try to trade him, would

691
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: they try to get rid of him? Because Bill clearly

692
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Speaker 1: does not want to quit. But this notion that I

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Speaker 1: don't care what the number is let's say they owed

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Speaker 1: him eighty million dollars, would be the reason that Robert

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Speaker 1: didn't want to move on. You're crazy this money now

696
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: to these guys, especially the successful team. Can you imagine

697
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Speaker 1: how much money the Patriots banked over the years when

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Speaker 1: Bill and Brady were winning Super Bowls. It's like I

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Speaker 1: saw with the Warriors when they started winning championships. The

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Speaker 1: amount of money that Joe lacub was making stupid. On

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Speaker 1: top of separate from just your sweet sales, how much

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Speaker 1: you're charging, I'm just talking the money around town. It's

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Speaker 1: just outrageous. So whatever they have to pay him, and

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Speaker 1: I would say the most would be like seventy five

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Speaker 1: fifty million dollars. It's not that big a deal. For

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Speaker 1: into a little thing we call the middle cof mailbag.

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Speaker 1: Way to get in is firing those dms at John

725
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: Middlecoff at John Middlecoff is the Instagram dms wide freaking open.

726
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: Is officiating getting worse? It seems to me to be

727
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: a theme all year. Coming off this weekend and seeing

728
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Speaker 1: my colts get two questionable calls against them on the

729
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: last drive of the game makes me wonder. I then

730
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Speaker 1: see the Steelers convert a fourth down when Pickett didn't

731
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Speaker 1: get close, and the Eagles get the benefit from no

732
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: calls all over the place. I can't sit here and

733
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Speaker 1: say it's an easy job, but games should be decided

734
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Speaker 1: by the players and coaches, not the referees. I think

735
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Speaker 1: there are several angles on this. I've said forever that

736
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: referees remind me a lot of government officials. No matter

737
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: how poor you are at your job, it's just like

738
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: you're just on scholarship and it never changes. And the

739
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: poor officiating has consistently been bad now for a long

740
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Speaker 1: long time. So I'm in agreement with you there. I

741
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Speaker 1: think the problem is, though, is it starts with the league.

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Speaker 1: You know, the officiating's been poor for a while, and

743
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: the league doesn't really do anything, and they constantly say, oh,

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00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: the officiating is good. And like you said, these are

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Speaker 1: human beings. It's not easy. Some of these are bang

746
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: bang calls. They're gonna be mistakes made. For example, in

747
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: the Rams game, they screwed up the spot of the

748
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: ball that was unquestionable even if you're a Steelers fan.

749
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: Pickett clearly slipped and was short. Now, like the rules,

750
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Speaker 1: McVeigh to not have any timeouts at the end of

751
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: the game is a freaking embarrassment. Now, a lot of

752
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: that second half. I had that game on mute and

753
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: had the Chiefs game on. So I don't know exactly

754
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: all the instances of how he blew his timeouts, but

755
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: like I put that a little bit on McVeigh because

756
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Speaker 1: if he just had a timeout, he could have challenged

757
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: the call, which he wasn't able to do. And the

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00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: one play and I've been saying this forever one to me,

759
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: defensive holding just in general on third and whatever that

760
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: is just an automatic first down has pissed me off.

761
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: But that's a competition committee. They got to figure that

762
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: out when I was a kid, and anyone my age

763
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: who grew up on football in the nineties, if you

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00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 1: overthrow a wide receiver, I don't care if he gets

765
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: tackled and he had no chance to catch the ball,

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Speaker 1: it is not a penalty. And the play at the

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00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: end of the Colts game, it hit the stands. Kevin

768
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: Garnett in his prime couldn't have tip the ball let

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Speaker 1: alone caught it. So to not call that uncatchable when

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Speaker 1: it was one of the most uncatchable balls we've ever

771
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Speaker 1: seen in a scenario like that. But is it getting worse? No,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think it's been shitty for a long

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Speaker 1: long time. I think the same thing the in basketball

774
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: same thing. In baseball, officiating is just not good and

775
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: like you said, human element of it. No one's perfect,

776
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: but the amount of miscalls when we're gambling and rooting,

777
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: it's just unacceptable. When the players and coaches have their

778
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: jobs on the line, that's the thing. Their jobs are

779
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: on the line, yet none of these officials anything ever happens.

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Speaker 1: Greetings from Canada is from Antonio. No one is better,

781
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: and I love that you cut to the shit. I

782
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: had some buddies over for Sunday night's game, and I

783
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: happen to be the only Philly fan in an ocean

784
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: full of Dolphins fans. They all could not stop talking

785
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: about Philly's talent, which I totally get. Their players are

786
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: fucking money. My question is this, are we not giving

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Speaker 1: Sirianni enough credit. I've watched all of their games pretty closely,

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Speaker 1: and while I do respect and credit the talent, it

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Speaker 1: seems that if Sirianni really had to, he could make

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Speaker 1: his team believe in unicorns and Peter Pan. The guy's

791
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: ability to motivate and switch up game plans is elite.

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00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: I know he doesn't call the plays, but he influences

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00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: the plan and most often when it comes to out coaching,

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00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: excluding the Super Bowl, he does it a lot. Can

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Speaker 1: we give the guy a bit of credit? Anytime you're

796
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Speaker 1: constantly winning, you get credit as a head coach. Nick

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00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: Sirianni deserves credit. I look at it a little differently.

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00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: I go Jalen we talked about it earlier, is not

799
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: quite the same guy and only one thing changed on offense.

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Speaker 1: All the players are the exact same. They lost a

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00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: coordinator and Siriani is he just a motivator? Like? Is

802
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: that what he is? Which? It works like the team

803
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: plays well because they, like you said, have a lot

804
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: of talent, which is put together by Howie added another

805
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: good player on Monday. But offensively, they're gonna go as

806
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Speaker 1: far as Jalen goes, especially from the pocket where he

807
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: clearly does not look as comfortable. Isn't Siriana? Can he

808
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: influence that at all? So yeah, I mean, I think

809
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: he gets a proper amount of credit for leading, you know,

810
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: one of, if not the most talented roster in the

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Speaker 1: league to a lot of wins, but out coaches people

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Speaker 1: on a weekly bab. I don't know if I'd go

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Speaker 1: that far. What I think he is is kind of

814
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: the offensive version of like John Harbond Mike Tomlin, that's

815
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Speaker 1: what Sirianni currently is and there's nothing wrong with that.

816
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: Both those guys' super Bowl champions, and I would say

817
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: that clearly the Eagles have a chance to be Super

818
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: Bowl champions this year. Huge fan of the show, love

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Speaker 1: the weekend ins to takes over Glass Tito's as far

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Speaker 1: as Lincoln Riley. When he left Oklahoma, many viewed it,

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Speaker 1: like Colin as an opportunity to dominate recruiting on the

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Speaker 1: West Coast and leave the soon to be tougher SEC conference,

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Speaker 1: which would help make for an easier path to the

824
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Speaker 1: college football Playoff. Fast forward two years, the program is spiraling.

825
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: SC is not even in the same class as Oregon

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Speaker 1: and Washington and oh by the way, they are about

827
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Speaker 1: to join Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State. What is

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Speaker 1: the likelihood that he decides to run and seek an

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Speaker 1: NFL job and more importantly, do you think his stock

830
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: has fallen given his lack of success? Well, I gave

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Speaker 1: my take on his NFL options status and why I

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Speaker 1: would not as an owner. Now when it comes to

833
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: his recent lack of success, I will say over and over,

834
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: he doesn't know what good defensive players look like. And

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Speaker 1: to me, good defensive players help set a physicality for

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Speaker 1: the program. If you gave this offense to Penn State,

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00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: they would never lose. Say what you want about James Franklin,

838
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: who clearly in game not great with the quarterback, but

839
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: he knows how to recruit defensive players. And you can say, well,

840
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: Lincoln can do things that he can't do. Well. Yeah,

841
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: if you are this flawed of a coach, and to me,

842
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: his flaw right now of not understanding what high end

843
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: defensive talent looks like and what a good defensive coordinator is.

844
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: I understand when you're at a program that doesn't have

845
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: unlimited funds. Jonathan Smith at Oregon State, what he's doing

846
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: right now to be in the top fifteen, I mean

847
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: he still plays Oregon coming up, Washington coming up. He

848
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: could win one of those games. To do it at

849
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: that program against all these teams with way more money

850
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: is really impressive. Right. But when you're a USC, if

851
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: you have a shitty coordinator on whatever side of the

852
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: ball that you're not the coordinator of, that's on you.

853
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: And listen, we all make bad hires coaches. I don't

854
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 1: care what industry you're in, You're not going to always

855
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: hire the right person, but when you do, to keep

856
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: acknowledging or excuse me, lack of acknowledgment, that you're wrong

857
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: and that he's really good and defense isn't the problem.

858
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: And he said this over and over and over to me.

859
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: Lincoln has this like kind of small town feel to

860
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: the way he's coaching a big time program. Right, you

861
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: can't the stuff that I mentioned this with Colin Baming

862
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: the reporter, not having Caleb speak, closing the school down

863
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: to scouts, like, but there's sc what they wouldn't do

864
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: this at Oklahoma let alone? What are we doing? What

865
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: are we doing? I've always liked Lincoln, but this year

866
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: has been has been very, very questionable. It really has

867
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: Steelers fan. I feel like I'm watching a car crash

868
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: in slow motion with this team. What's worse is how

869
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: tone deaf the organization is to how football is being played.

870
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: Now we are watching New England try and win, playing

871
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 1: just like the Steelers, and it blows up in their face.

872
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm afraid the Steelers are just New England, but a

873
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: year or two behind. The only difference to me is

874
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: there are a few stars on each side of the ball.

875
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: Canada sucks, but Toman hired him, kept him and constantly

876
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: hires assistance and keeping the great work. This was sent

877
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: to me before the game against the Rams. Now the

878
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: Rams probably a seven to eight win team win the

879
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: dust settles, but still on the road. That was an

880
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: impressive win. Pickett looked. I think that was the best

881
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: game he's played this season. I'm not saying statistically, I'm

882
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: just saying the eye test, he was good. Like you said,

883
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: one thing you have going for you where you can't

884
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: compare yourself to New England. You have elite players. TJ.

885
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: Watt is an elite player, high end player, Minka elite player.

886
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: Pickens the way he was playing yesterday, elite player. So

887
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: when you have elite impact players, I think Joey Porter

888
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: Junior has a chance to be really freaking good. If

889
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: your quarterback play is just okay, which it was yesterday,

890
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna be okay. Now. I'm not all

891
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden pivoting back to I think this team

892
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: is in the AFC Championship game against the Chiefs, but

893
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they got a little momentum. You're

894
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: four and two kind of feel more like an eleven

895
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: win team than we thought a couple of weeks ago,

896
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: maybe an eight win team. It's the best part about

897
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: the NFL. Things change so quickly we get an idea

898
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 1: of what we think a team looks like. You clearly

899
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: were having some issues. Everyone turned on Canada rightfully. So listen,

900
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: my bald brother was lighting it up. He was dowling

901
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: up some good plays. He really was. My question for

902
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: the pot is Jordan Love. He clearly played a bad

903
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: game this weekend against one of the worst d's in

904
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: the NFL. Is his problem? Not having a single vet receiver.

905
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: Seems like the Packers should bring back Davante to help

906
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: guide him. He's clearly not a top quarterback, but it's

907
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: just the lack of direct help on the field. I

908
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: don't know, man, Well, Davante's not coming back, so I

909
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: think you have to come to grips. It's probably not

910
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna work. It's just probably not gonna work. And my

911
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: take before I had ever really seen him play coming

912
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: into the season, I mean I watched the Chiefs game,

913
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: which I don't even count a couple of years ago.

914
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: Was was simple. The likelihood to go to just a

915
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: serviceable player from Far to Rogers to just what the

916
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: forty nine ers did Montana to Young to Jeff Garcia.

917
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: We've never seen before usually go from one great quarterback

918
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: to a shitty quarterback. Help what the Chargers did to

919
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: go from Philip Rivers to Justin Herbert. It usually doesn't happen.

920
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: This is normal NFL. And you look like you have

921
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: a guy who's a backup, who's getting worse by the week,

922
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: whose coach does not trust them, and you know what,

923
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: be glad that you didn't sign them. I said this

924
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: to Colin. I give the Packers credit that they signed

925
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: him to such a cheap deal, that they did not

926
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: sign up for anything crazy. That if it went well,

927
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 1: they had an incredibly cheap starting quarterback. If it did

928
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: not go well, look at the Giants. They didn't find

929
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: them up Shit's Creek without a paddle. And they have

930
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: wiggle room, They have the ability to change, They have

931
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: the ability to draft a quarterback. I think you could

932
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: easily remake him the backup quarterback if you were able

933
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: to upgrade that position. So you're not in that big

934
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: a trouble. Am I not alone? By getting more and

935
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: more sour with the NFL due to believing there is

936
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: a strong likelihood the league influences outcome through rigging. I

937
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: read the book by Tim Donagy and disgraced NBA ref

938
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: I read it too, and it opened my eyes to

939
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: how the league can pass direct down to referees that

940
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: clearly impact games. I think the NBA is still the

941
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: worst to watch because of how drastically different it is

942
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: called game to game, player to player. Baseball, I think

943
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: is the hardest to rig, hopefully even harder after robomps.

944
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: It's totally conspiracy to think the games are scripted, But

945
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: is it wrong for a die hard fan to be

946
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: losing faith with something isn't going on behind the scenes.

947
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: I don't think they can rig the games. I mean,

948
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: I know they can't rig the games. I've lived it,

949
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: I've seen it. But like you said, they can clearly

950
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: create directives, and I think incentives is probably the wrong

951
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: way to put it, but mandates. We are gonna call X,

952
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: Y and Z and we're gonna hammer it now in fairness,

953
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 1: during training camp, you bring in officials and they hammer

954
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: home X, Y and Z. Defensive pass interference, hitting the

955
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: quarterback below the waist. I'm just picking a couple and

956
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: let's just pay defensive holding. We are gonna emphasize that,

957
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: or helmet to helmet it is gonna be. We're gonna

958
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: lean on the side of caution with these calls. So

959
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: coaching staff, players, you guys know it, coach it up,

960
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: play it up, and avoid these things. Now, I just

961
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: think that the human element of this sport. There's never

962
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: been faster players in the league, so on a bang

963
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: bang play, it's never happened more quickly. Belichick argued forever

964
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: that every play or every penalty should be reviewable. It's like,

965
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: how do we arbitrarily pick which plays are reviewed and

966
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: which plays are not? And I do think there is

967
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: some validity to that though. I mean you could argue

968
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: remember when they tried to make past interference reviewable and

969
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: then it didn't really work. I think holding would be similar.

970
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: I've said it earlier. I hate defensive holding. I think

971
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 1: that that is such an over called penalty. But listen,

972
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: you and I can complain, and trust me, we're all

973
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: complaining about the consistency of the referees, about how rigged

974
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: it can feel on a big game, on a game

975
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: we're betting against, on a game we're rooting for But

976
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: as long as TV ratings are through the roof and

977
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: gambling's high in fantasy football, I promise you it's not

978
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: gonna change. Do you think the NFL will ever get

979
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: their head out of their asses and start reviewing every

980
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: roughing the passer? God, we got a lot of officiating

981
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: passer call or even better, unsportsmanlike hits. In general, every

982
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: Sunday has a handful of complete bullshit calls. Tom Brady

983
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: went on his podcast last week talking about how ridiculous

984
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: they have gotten, even though he benefited from the calls.

985
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 1: Clown appreciate the pod. Tom Brady hater, I would say

986
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: that they aren't gonna lean to those clearly. I mean,

987
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: I think they lie reviewable plays for objective things two

988
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: feet in right, spotting of the ball out of bounds.

989
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: What are some other plays that are constantly reviewed? A fumble,

990
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: things that are relatively close to being black and white.

991
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 1: They don't want to get in the world of holding,

992
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: defensive holding past interference, I think, and in fairness to them,

993
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: in the NBA, the challenging of calls sometimes can really

994
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: fuck up the EBB and flow to the game. I

995
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: think the NFL is close to the edge of you know,

996
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: you don't want too many calls to be reviewed. It

997
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: fucks up the flow for us, the consumer, And we're

998
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: the most valuable thing the league has. Never forget that.

999
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: The most valuable thing the NFL has are not the franchises,

1000
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: are not the players of the coaches. It's you. Because

1001
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: without you, there is no one hundred billion dollar television deal,

1002
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: which literally creates the wealth in the league. It's because

1003
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: so many people watch that creates all the wealth. Without

1004
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: the people, there is no money, right, and there's never

1005
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: been more people. There's never been more demand for football equals,

1006
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: there's never been more money. And let's face it, as

1007
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: long as you keep watching. I was texting Ethan Strauss's

1008
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: buddy of mine from the Bay Area, who was a

1009
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: long time like wrote for ESPN dot com, then he

1010
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: wrote for The Athletic and then he went solo. He

1011
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: just has a substack and he's kind of a renegade.

1012
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: He will write things that Big Jays won't touch anymore.

1013
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: And he wrote a really good article why the NBA

1014
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: is in major trouble with their new television deal. It's like, well,

1015
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: your ratings have been cut in half and you think

1016
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: your next television deal is gonna triple do The math

1017
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: on that one doesn't make any sense. And we were

1018
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: texting about it and I said, think about a couple

1019
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: of years ago and there was just no article. I

1020
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: saw a headline that the NBA wants to do an

1021
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime with Tuesday and Thursday night basketball. Do you

1022
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: know why Amazon Prime works for Thursday Night football? Because

1023
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: thirteen fucking million people watch. For years now, TNT has

1024
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: been struggling to get a million plus people to watch

1025
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: their primetime games, and in fairness to them, stars ain't playing.

1026
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: Turn on the game. It's like, yeah, our half that

1027
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: the guys are sitting tonight, Well, what the fuck? I'm

1028
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: gonna go eat a sandwich and go watch a movie then.

1029
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: And I think the NFL last year showed their true

1030
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: colors with why they care so much. Amazon just signed

1031
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: like a ten year deal so if ratings were down

1032
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: or up, like ultimately, it's a fixed cost. Yet they

1033
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: were not cool with them underperforming on nine to ten

1034
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: million people, like they had to figure out, are we

1035
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: missing something? Do we need to improve the games? What

1036
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: happened this year? Thirteen million people watch? It matters them?

1037
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: Why say in college football a lot. What's the lifeblood

1038
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: of football in college recruiting? Recruiting, recruiting. You know what.

1039
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: The lifeblood of the business of football in America's television,

1040
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: people watching that creates all the money. I can't stand

1041
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: businesses that don't first, foremost and everything after that. Consumer

1042
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: comes first. And say what you want about the NFL,

1043
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: We can plan a lot, but if you stop watching,

1044
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: then they will change. But as long as you and

1045
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: me keep watching while we complain about these terrible refs

1046
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: like they got us right, So the only way to

1047
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: draw a line in the sand, to create change or

1048
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: even have them question things, is to turn off television.

1049
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: And let's face it, as of right now, most people

1050
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: listening to this, including myself, are kind of addicted. Like

1051
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: I watch football from nine am on Saturday for really

1052
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: the next twenty four another ten hour. I mean, I'm

1053
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: talking thirty five straight hours with a little sleep break

1054
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: in between Saturday and Sunday morning. They got me by

1055
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: the balls that they really do. And let's face it,

1056
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: most of you listening that got you too. And until

1057
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: we stop watching, we're just complaining about things that aren't

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Speaker 1: gonna change. And listen, we can't if you stop watching

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00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: as one individual, it's not gonna change anything, right, So

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Speaker 1: it's very, very difficult. But it's just the NFL. The

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Speaker 1: number one thing they care about, and I would say

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00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: the top five things they care about are television ratings

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00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: because that's where the overwhelming majority of the money comes

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00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: from and the money that is used to pay for everything.

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00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: That's important And as long as millions of people are watching.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Jets have had two games with over

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Speaker 1: twenty five million people watching, twenty five The other night

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00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football Eagles Dolphins. I haven't seen the television ratings,

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01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: but my guests would be well over twenty million people

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01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: were watching that thing on Sunday night. The ALCS was

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01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: being played as well on Fox Sports one. I can't

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01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: even imagine the discrepancy between the eyeballs on Rangers Astros

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01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: and Eagles Dolphins. And it would have been the same

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01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: thing if it was Lakers Warriors. It is not a

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01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: fair fight. And the NFL can keep having stupid referee

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01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: calls because they know that we're gonna watch. It's a

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01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: long winded way of saying, is all we got to

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01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: do is complain? Question for the bag if you're a

1079
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: GM through week seven? Would you be happier with the

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01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: Witherspoon picket five or the Carter Pike at nine. I'm

1081
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: a huge Hawks fan and didn't like the Witherspoon initially,

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01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: but it seems like he's making a huge impact what

1083
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: was a bottom tier defense last year. Carter has also

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01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: been great, but running into a much different defense. Love

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Speaker 1: the pod found you on conspeed, Appreciate it. I think

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Speaker 1: the reason that the majority of those teams passed on

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01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: Jalen is they didn't feel equipped to handle them. And

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01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: I think starting with you, guys you have had, you

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01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: would take Jalen over Witherspoon. If you were not worried

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01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: about anything off the field, it would be a no

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01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: brainer pick. But Seattle has been burned before with questionable

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01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: character guys they've made. They got Percy Harvin, now he

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01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: was injured, but still like he was available for a reason.

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01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: Malique McDowell, the Michigan State guy, and they just didn't

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01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: want to fuck with that, so they went with probably

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01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: the second best player on their board, who checked all

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01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: the boxes, and they looked like they hit a home run.

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01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: I saw Jamal Adams said that when he was a

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01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: rookie to quote he said, I was asked, and Witherspoon

1100
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: clearly is not basically saying this young guy's a stut.

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01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: So if you are going to pass on a guy

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01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: who would have been a huge impact for Seattle, and

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01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: I would said five years ago they would have taken

1104
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter without hesitation, you better get it right, and

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01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: they did. To me the Eagles, it was just it

1106
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: was an easy one. They got Lucky's the wrong word

1107
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: because they put themselves in position when they made the

1108
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: trade with the Saints. But they they were prepared because

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01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: of the way their team was built. Get him around Fletcher,

1110
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: get him around Brandon Graham, get him around as on Reddit,

1111
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: get him with his former teammates, and they were equipped

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Speaker 1: where I think it's one of those win win situations,

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01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: which sometimes can be rare in football. So I'd be

1114
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: excited if I were you to have Witherspoon, just like

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01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: if I was an Eagles fan, I'd be excited with

1116
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter. Now if I was some of these other teams,

1117
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: like Atlanta was Detroit, Yeah, Detroit passed back. It'd be

1118
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: one of those things. If he goes on to have

1119
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: a career where he doesn't get in any trouble. You

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01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: kind of questioning yourself, do we get the fire Staley? Yet? No,

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01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: he's not. He's not getting fired. Started listening to the

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01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: pod this year and loving it. Keep up the good work.

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Speaker 1: What is going on with Kareem Jackson? Feels like every

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01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: game this year it's just a matter of time before

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01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: he makes a huge, unnecessary hit. Just watch the one

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01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: against Green Bay. How does a coach address this with

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01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: a veteran of fourteen years? Well, I think I saw

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01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: before I recorded this part that he was suspended for

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01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: four games. Now, some of the earlier season hits in

1130
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: modern day football twenty twenty three were clearly over the

1131
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: line and should have been ejected or whatever. My take

1132
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: on the hit yesterday was like, shoulder to shoulder. I

1133
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: didn't feel like that was a malicious hit. Historically, that's

1134
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: a very very normal hit. It sure looked like he

1135
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: led with his shoulder and hit the guy in his

1136
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: shoulder if I'm watching the same hit, which I'm pretty

1137
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: sure I was. So the league, I think felt pressure

1138
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: because so many people and obviously got ejected for that yesterday.

1139
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: Had been kind of questioning Kareem Jackson dirty player. A

1140
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: lot of people on social media call the guy a

1141
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: dirty player. I mean, you can take that with a

1142
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: grain of salt, but is a guy truly dirty? I

1143
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: don't know, but clearly relative to the rest of the league,

1144
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: it feels like he's the guy closest to the line

1145
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: of someone's gonna get seriously injured by the way this

1146
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: guy's playing. I know you've been out on McDaniels, and

1147
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: so have I. He's clearly not a head coach and

1148
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: some of the worst coaching and personnel decisions making I've

1149
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: ever seen any chance the organization takes a quarterback in

1150
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: next year's draft with this guy in charge. I think

1151
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: he's ruining any promising quarterback and he needs to go

1152
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: because this team doesn't show any promise. To lose to

1153
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: Tyson begott badget bage net to a Division two quarterback

1154
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: with the Chicago Bears is the worst loss of his career.

1155
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: And he's the same guy that lost to Jeff Saturday.

1156
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: He lost to Baker Mayfield on a Thursday night game

1157
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: when Baker Mayfield got signed on a Monday. Josh McDaniels

1158
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: has been an utter disaster as a head coach. Raider

1159
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: fans know it. The entire league knows it. Someone shot

1160
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: me a DM saying shouldn't Tom Brady get royalties for

1161
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: every penny that Josh McDaniels makes. Tom Brady created this guy.

1162
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: I thought Josh McDaniel's gonna be good. I really did.

1163
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: You watched him in New England. He was just good

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01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: at his job as an offensive coordinator. One thing is true,

1165
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: and we see it over and over and over again.

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01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: Just because you are a good coordinator has no guarantee

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01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: that you are going to have any success, let alone

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01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: be solid as a head coach. And Josh McDaniels, he

1169
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: kind of looks like bloated. It's like Josh mix in,

1170
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: it's a fucking Chale smoothie or something. You look terrible.

1171
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you look awful. Maybe it's the stress from

1172
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: not knowing what the do at his job. To start

1173
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer. To go into a season with Jimmy Garopol

1174
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: as your head coach who has a long history of

1175
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: getting injured and have Brian Hoyer being your backup is shameful.

1176
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: Is absolutely I don't I don't know how else to

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01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: say it beside like it's it's unacceptable. Because every backup quarterback,

1178
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: especially when you're starting quarterback, gets injured. A lot is

1179
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: gonna play like Brian Hoyer is gonna start multiple games.

1180
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: For Brian Hoyer is terrible. Brian hoyr. If you put

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01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: him on the Chiefs or the Niners, like they're probably

1182
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: gonna lose. He's that bad he is. He hasn't been

1183
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: good at football in a decade. And you sign this

1184
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: guy and make him your backup quarterback. At least if

1185
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: you lose with a rookie, you're getting to evaluate, develop

1186
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: and see if you got anything. You just use a

1187
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: fourth round pick on this guy. Brian Hoyer is gonna be,

1188
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, working for nesson here in two years talking

1189
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: about Drodd Mayo as the head coach of the New

1190
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: England Patriots. I just you cannot have Brian Hoyer as

1191
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback. And honestly, when you watch that game,

1192
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: like the outcome is all you could argue predetermined. If

1193
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: you start Brian Hoyer, especially if your team is not

1194
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: that good, you don't have a snowballs chance in hell.

1195
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're playing a Division two quarterback.

1196
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're playing the eighty five Bears.

1197
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: You were not winning that game, and they got mollywopped,

1198
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,959
Speaker 1: and I thought going into the Seaton into the game,

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01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,919
Speaker 1: they're like one of the worst three and three teams

1200
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: you've ever seen. I mean, they got two good players

1201
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: and one doesn't even get the ball right. They can't

1202
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: get DeVante the ball and Max Crosby can only do

1203
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: so much. The Raiders are in absolute shambles now. Mark

1204
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: Davis just did win his second wa NBA Championship, So

1205
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: he's a winner. He's a champion. He's brought success to Vegas.

1206
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: The problem is not with his NFL team in a

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01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: city full of bright lights and entertainment. The Raiders of

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Speaker 1: the opposite appreciate everyone listening. We'll talk soon. Audios the volume, Yeah,