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Speaker 1: Maller starts right now that it does. It is a Friday,
Speaker 1: which means a conversation with someone we like in someone
Speaker 1: we know. I say that in air quotes because four
Speaker 1: hours or not enough on the overnight show during the week,
Speaker 1: and we do this now eight days a week, eight
Speaker 1: days a week, and joined for better or worse. I
Speaker 1: guess this week we would say for worse after that
Speaker 1: performance the other night. We'll get to that in the
Speaker 1: Saturday podcast where David guesstcon sabotaged the show one Night
Speaker 1: of Torture as a producer sitting in for the Cooper Loop.
Speaker 1: But he is over there a gascon. Somehow you made
Speaker 1: it back to the podcast battered and bruised, but happy
Speaker 1: to be here. As always a nice warm welcome from
Speaker 1: you as uh we get into a Friday edition. So
Speaker 1: thanks for having me back. I appreciate it. After that,
Speaker 1: the militia thought you did a great job. I put
Speaker 1: up there on my Twitter feed to grade the performance
Speaker 1: of Gascon producing the show, and they really voted some
Speaker 1: good things for you. So you got that kind of
Speaker 1: an assholes produced, Like kind of an asshole are you?
Speaker 1: I was just pointing out, you know, tough love. Tough
Speaker 1: love makes you better. But it's not about you, guess
Speaker 1: because right now one of our college I have worked
Speaker 1: with this guy at two different places over the years,
Speaker 1: at least two, probably more than that. The man he's
Speaker 1: lived the life of like a military brat. He started
Speaker 1: out in southern California. To my note, he's lived everywhere,
Speaker 1: literally everywhere, from coast to coast in the United States
Speaker 1: and done radio. Have a microphone, have phones, will work.
Speaker 1: The man known as the Stinking Genius, the star of
Speaker 1: fs are. On the weekends, the great Arnie Spaniard is saying,
Speaker 1: Laker Fast, Let's go on, Arni, Arni, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I think we should start with that Arnie, because when
Speaker 1: I when I first met you. You came in. You
Speaker 1: had worked in Chicago, if I remember correctly, right, I
Speaker 1: think you were in Chicago. I don't remember. I don't remember.
Speaker 1: You worked all over the place, but you were hired
Speaker 1: as the big afternoon guy at the sports station in
Speaker 1: l A that we were was working at the time,
Speaker 1: and I remember, I think it was Mike Thompson was
Speaker 1: the program director, if I remember correctly, and Mike he
Speaker 1: sang the praises of you, Arnie and oh my god,
Speaker 1: and you came in there with guns of blazing. That
Speaker 1: was back in the Shaq Kobe period of time. What
Speaker 1: time that was. And the funny part is when I
Speaker 1: was up in Chicago and I got the job offer,
Speaker 1: company wouldn't let me leave because I was under contract
Speaker 1: for another year. So I'm like, well, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: keep me here for a year, and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't leave. I go, wait a minute. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna give me a new contract. You're not gonna let
Speaker 1: me go. Um, You're you're not gonna give me anything.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna give me more money, and they just
Speaker 1: stared at me. I go, I am not leaving this
Speaker 1: office until you give me something, and I was so
Speaker 1: furious at the owner that I reached over and grabbed
Speaker 1: a dozen goal balls. I go, I'm taking these golf balls,
Speaker 1: and I'm leaving. And I just walked out of the
Speaker 1: office and I could hear them laughter you as I
Speaker 1: walked out. It's hard to believe, Annie, that a radio
Speaker 1: company would not treat its employees. Well, that does not
Speaker 1: happen in radio, right, Arntie. I mean we were well paid,
Speaker 1: we make a lot of money, we live a great life. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's shocking and shocking. They just wouldn't say, yeah, go ahead,
Speaker 1: do it, you lot, and they go moved to Los
Speaker 1: Angeles and and bother. When I got the l you guys,
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys treated me like I had leprosy,
Speaker 1: the contagious leprosy, not the non contagious one in papion,
Speaker 1: the one that's contagious. Because I'm like, who is this guy?
Speaker 1: I can't believe they're giving him afternoon drive? What's wrong
Speaker 1: with people around here? I can't believe this. It was.
Speaker 1: It was insane. Well, Arnie, I gotta tell you you
Speaker 1: know how to make an entrance, because you know who
Speaker 1: knows if this is accurate, not but from what I remember,
Speaker 1: you came in and you took shot. It's like going
Speaker 1: to the church and taking shots at a priest. You
Speaker 1: were you were taking shots at Kobe and Shock right away,
Speaker 1: like you didn't waste any time the most And I
Speaker 1: love that about you. Aren't because I'm right there with you. Man.
Speaker 1: I despised the Lakers, but you were throwing haymakers at
Speaker 1: the Lakers from day one. They're not gonna win, They're
Speaker 1: not gonna win, and you were annoying the hell out
Speaker 1: of people. Was a brilliant strategy by you on There
Speaker 1: was no strategy in this. You know, I came there
Speaker 1: and and we really doing this. You just said whatever
Speaker 1: the hell you wanted back then, there was no you know,
Speaker 1: let me tell you, you you gotta say this, you gotta
Speaker 1: do that had and you've got to be this kind
Speaker 1: of person. And it was It was just amazing because
Speaker 1: you know, the Lakers had not won in a long
Speaker 1: long time. And that's remember when we started that thing.
Speaker 1: If the Lakers win the championship, I said that year,
Speaker 1: I'll watch everybody's car in l a And how many
Speaker 1: times do you say something when the season begins and
Speaker 1: then you know, eight nine months later in June, it
Speaker 1: actually turns out that the Lakers won the championship, and
Speaker 1: we're playing that stupid song car wash like every day too,
Speaker 1: or three times a day for eight months. I mean people,
Speaker 1: people didn't wash their cars for like a year just
Speaker 1: to go ahead get a watch for free in case
Speaker 1: the Lakers won the championship. And if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: that was like the best day of my life, the
Speaker 1: Lakers Woman Championship. We had that that we had like,
Speaker 1: uh cars lined up like three four miles long, helicopters
Speaker 1: flying over and it was you in Dave that we're
Speaker 1: actually helping watching the cars and doing the show. Why,
Speaker 1: I was just meeting, greeting people. I'm saying hello. It
Speaker 1: was really great. Xactly was on Ventura Boulevard, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think it was if I remember, it was the hand.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's still there or not. I
Speaker 1: have not driven down. Yeah, the giant oversized hand on
Speaker 1: Ventura Boulevard, which is a staple of l A in
Speaker 1: the San Fernando Valley. And yeah, so you know, I
Speaker 1: was the Benny I was doing the Ben and Dave
Speaker 1: show at at the time, and so you know, we
Speaker 1: were not, and we were competing. She was not a
Speaker 1: competing We're on the same team, but you were the
Speaker 1: big afternoon star. And so yeah, I remember we parked
Speaker 1: there and the line of cars from the hand car
Speaker 1: washing army as far as I could see down Ventura
Speaker 1: Boulevard which goes on forever, right and as far as Legacy,
Speaker 1: And then you're right, and you didn't wash any car.
Speaker 1: You sat there in a Hawaiian shirt, smoking cigars, and
Speaker 1: you were sitting in like a folding chair, if I
Speaker 1: remember correctly. And we I actually watched, I actually got
Speaker 1: my hands dirty. I did more car watching than you
Speaker 1: did that day. And the police came up to men.
Speaker 1: They go, you know, we're gonna have to shut this down.
Speaker 1: It's causing too much of a uh you know, traffic jam.
Speaker 1: And I said, don't you dare. You're not shut nothing. Now.
Speaker 1: This is the best thing ever. And it was just great.
Speaker 1: They had Laker players coming. You know. I want to
Speaker 1: tell you when in that series, this was like the
Speaker 1: best thing I ever did. I got in so much
Speaker 1: trouble for this, not not really in trouble, trouble, but
Speaker 1: believe me, if there if there was a baseball pat
Speaker 1: somebody would have hit me over the head with it.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when we were doing when we first
Speaker 1: were doing remote at Staples, Um, right next to Staples,
Speaker 1: there was that big glass room that there was nothing in.
Speaker 1: I think, now it's a Starbucks, right then, help me
Speaker 1: if i'm if I'm thinking that was Yeah, when Staples opened,
Speaker 1: they didn't have anything. It was kind of empty. And
Speaker 1: then and then across the street was a parking lot
Speaker 1: which is now the l A Complex whatever they call it,
Speaker 1: right next to Staples, right next to it it is
Speaker 1: I think it's a Starbucks style. But it was wide open, glass,
Speaker 1: wide open, and we were doing the show. I was
Speaker 1: doing the show in there. I noticed I don't know
Speaker 1: why this happened, but when I went to a commercial break, UM,
Speaker 1: they would stop playing the commercials outside on the speaker.
Speaker 1: But when I was doing the show, you could hear
Speaker 1: the show, which is obvious, right. But when I went
Speaker 1: to a commercial break, they would cut the commercials but
Speaker 1: the mic was still hot, so like, oh no, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could talk to the people outside. So I thought
Speaker 1: I'd have a little fun and I and we went
Speaker 1: to a commercial. I get on the I get on
Speaker 1: the on the Mike and I go, welcome to Game
Speaker 1: six Portland and los A. Kobe Bryant out broke and
Speaker 1: Land and people told people are looking to be like
Speaker 1: he is. He is, he told the Jude, I go,
Speaker 1: he's God. He won't play that e R. All I
Speaker 1: know is after after about thirty seconds of saying this um,
Speaker 1: our boss came in Mike Thompson. He said something like
Speaker 1: didn't you please stop? But not in those words, different words,
Speaker 1: different tone, And let me tell you something had had
Speaker 1: he could say, if he could have grabbed me by
Speaker 1: the neck and thrown me out in traffic on the
Speaker 1: four on the freeway, I would have been in traffic.
Speaker 1: The Lakers have been so mad at me that they
Speaker 1: called my bosses, who had to run down to the
Speaker 1: remote and tell me to uh please be quiet and
Speaker 1: something like that. But I mean, I've never seen on
Speaker 1: a he was red faced A couple of times. He was.
Speaker 1: He was like a boiling thing. I wanted to take
Speaker 1: a pit and pop. But my thought he was thought
Speaker 1: he could have a heart attack. You know, I love Mike,
Speaker 1: our our old boss, Mike Thompson. I love the guy,
Speaker 1: but he was such a hot ahead of times. I
Speaker 1: remember we would do a bad segment of the Ben
Speaker 1: and Dave Show, and he was listening in his office
Speaker 1: and he would become he would become rumbling down the
Speaker 1: hall and he would like bang his hands against the
Speaker 1: wall about how bad that segment of radio was and
Speaker 1: started screaming, shoutting. But as far as that classroom, arty,
Speaker 1: all right, I have some of my favorite reason radio
Speaker 1: in that classroom. I don't know if you were there
Speaker 1: that night, and maybe not. They were the riot say
Speaker 1: to riot after they were you in there? This? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was. I was there. You know what's funny. I
Speaker 1: was coming out of Staples after the Lakers won the championship,
Speaker 1: riding outside. Um. We were supposed to do the post
Speaker 1: game from that room. Ye, all I had to do
Speaker 1: was go out from Staples. You might have been with
Speaker 1: me at that time, and all we had to do
Speaker 1: was walk a hundred stats, not even that much. Go
Speaker 1: to the room. I come out, I see, of course,
Speaker 1: a couple of things getting burned, a couple of cop
Speaker 1: cars getting burned. And and as soon as I step out,
Speaker 1: I hear there's already sire, And I turned over to
Speaker 1: the policeman and he goes, yeah, you're on your own.
Speaker 1: So I said that. I said, Ben, why don't you
Speaker 1: go over and get ready for the romote. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stay here for a while so I can figure out
Speaker 1: how to get over. Arnie. Let me tell you that
Speaker 1: was the craziest night because as you said, there were
Speaker 1: several cop cars that got burned. There was a channel
Speaker 1: to news van that guy burned, and we are broadcasting.
Speaker 1: All there is is a bright of glass in front
Speaker 1: of us, and the mob is outside, and I remember
Speaker 1: they started a fire on the street in right across
Speaker 1: from Staples Center. There right in front of us. There
Speaker 1: was a little street which is still there, and they
Speaker 1: were dancing. They were doing a chance dancing around the
Speaker 1: fire in the street, as I remember. Uh. And then
Speaker 1: we remember who we sent out. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you came in there. I think you got in the evention.
Speaker 1: But we sent out Vic the Brick because the mob
Speaker 1: loved Vic. Vic was like our on site reporter. They
Speaker 1: couldn't get enough of it. They were chanting his name,
Speaker 1: and we love you, Vic. You got and we got
Speaker 1: in trouble because they're like, they're riding and burning the
Speaker 1: cop cars and and of course the boss comes to
Speaker 1: this you can't say you that, don't say that. So
Speaker 1: I got on the mic and go, come on down. Family,
Speaker 1: filled out this year breathing. I want to I want
Speaker 1: to say this speaking about her old boss. Do you
Speaker 1: remember what he wanted me to do with that sports bar?
Speaker 1: Refresh my memory. There were so many crazy promotions we
Speaker 1: did with people being buried alive, and that's what he
Speaker 1: wanted me to do. He wanted me to one to
Speaker 1: be buried alive six feet under in the concrete and dude,
Speaker 1: that's not happening. I will die down there in concrete.
Speaker 1: So Tom Mooney did it. And it's funny, but I
Speaker 1: think our boss passed out from drinking. So nobody was
Speaker 1: guarding the area where Mooney was buried, and I remember
Speaker 1: we were talking to we go. Tom was running out,
Speaker 1: What are we going to do? We can't get you
Speaker 1: out here? Running out and we had him been a
Speaker 1: full paddent looking back at that, but it wasn't very funny,
Speaker 1: but it was funny. Oh no, that stuff was hilarious.
Speaker 1: We remember we put somebody on I don't know if
Speaker 1: you were here at the time. We put somebody a
Speaker 1: billboard into because the clippers had a long losing stream.
Speaker 1: We put a Ali McKay. We put her on the
Speaker 1: billboard for like until they won, and that became a
Speaker 1: news story. One of the funny things. I want to
Speaker 1: tell you one more the best, the best truck anybody
Speaker 1: ever had when we were doing in l A. And
Speaker 1: you known him, but you never brought up his name.
Speaker 1: We had a guy that they hired I don't even
Speaker 1: know who the hell he wants. We called him three
Speaker 1: way Freddie, and all he had to do was take
Speaker 1: this brand new Honda and drive around watching Dodger games
Speaker 1: wherever they traveled. And at the end of the summer,
Speaker 1: you got to keep the Honda and he would never
Speaker 1: call it to night show. He was supposed to call
Speaker 1: it like every day, and he would never call it.
Speaker 1: And he kept the Hansa. Do you remember that I
Speaker 1: got Freddie? I don't. I don't remember. I remember we
Speaker 1: had Check was our our promotions guy at the time,
Speaker 1: one of our promotions guys, and he was driving around
Speaker 1: the promotions vehicle and we would google was a Honda Honda.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that. But you know one of the
Speaker 1: one of the one of the interns, Arnie at that
Speaker 1: station is now the head football coach of the Texas
Speaker 1: Long Lawrence. Can you aieve that that is a nuts?
Speaker 1: Tom Herman, who's the coach of Texas, was an intern
Speaker 1: at the station me and Arnie worked at back in
Speaker 1: the day, Sam whatever your name is now, Yeah, how
Speaker 1: much you think you get? I don't know how much
Speaker 1: he's getting paid. He must be getting paid like five
Speaker 1: million dollars a year to coach at Texas. I would
Speaker 1: think he has a big time that we got that job,
Speaker 1: because a coaching job. I I just remembered Arnie the
Speaker 1: one of the other fun stories about that time we
Speaker 1: were doing radio in l A. You mentioned the Freedom
Speaker 1: we were doing. Me and Dave. We're doing a midday
Speaker 1: show from that same glass room, and we sat there
Speaker 1: for the for the riot after the Lakers won that championship.
Speaker 1: We were we were in there and it was like
Speaker 1: a day after the the Clippers had played the Lakers,
Speaker 1: and the Clippers had scored like three points in a
Speaker 1: quarter or two points in a ridiculous quarter, and then
Speaker 1: it was so embarrassing. The team was terrible. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a Clipper house guy and I was then as well,
Speaker 1: and and so Dave had this idea, so we gotta
Speaker 1: you know, I want other Clippers to move back to
Speaker 1: San Diego. So he had this brilliant idea, says, let's
Speaker 1: put a petition together and we'll have our intern go
Speaker 1: out and because our business people in downtown l A,
Speaker 1: we'll have him signed the petition and we'll do a
Speaker 1: bit out of it. So we send our intern out. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a great story on it. So we send
Speaker 1: our intern out to get signatures from people who were
Speaker 1: on lunch because we show and hand to guy all right.
Speaker 1: About an hour later, a steaming man, Andy Roser, who
Speaker 1: was Donald Sterling's right hand man, comes running in. Our
Speaker 1: intern had asked Andy Roser to sign the petition to
Speaker 1: move the Clippers back to San Diego because they're an embarrassment.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he was so pissed. He was so
Speaker 1: angry are he he was spitting fire when he came
Speaker 1: in there. He was firing brimstone. Oh my gosh. It
Speaker 1: was a mess. By the way, I think now the
Speaker 1: chance to kind of bring this up. Now, I know
Speaker 1: people are listening for one story in one story only
Speaker 1: kind of awkward that you haven't brought it up. Well,
Speaker 1: I think we can talk about how you own the
Speaker 1: eastern part of Vermont. If you want come to want
Speaker 1: to know why you and I were in the hot
Speaker 1: top with four topless women back in Indiana, they were
Speaker 1: up to four topless women out. The number changes, but no,
Speaker 1: fine whatever it was said, it was me you with
Speaker 1: a mar Kenez so um all the time. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: had we had different people in there, but we were
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis on assignment, Arntie. We were big radio stars
Speaker 1: on assignment at the NBA Finals for the Pacers. And
Speaker 1: was that Reggie Miller's Pacers, right, I believe it's time
Speaker 1: And they read it to from the David Letterman show.
Speaker 1: That's right. That was the big thing because the Letterman
Speaker 1: would send Biff out to do his goofy interviews and
Speaker 1: that was that was we read it. It wasn't that
Speaker 1: we ran him at a bar, right, He was like
Speaker 1: he was kind of depressed and he was drinking a
Speaker 1: little bit and uh, but that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: So we were standing at the hotel there and we
Speaker 1: somehow ended up I don't know how, yes, in a jacuzzi,
Speaker 1: and as I remember the story, Arnie, there were a
Speaker 1: couple of beautiful ladies there and they were pretty attractive,
Speaker 1: and then they were kind end of uncomfortable when we
Speaker 1: got in the hot tub. And then when you started talking,
Speaker 1: they immediately got out. As I recall, first of all,
Speaker 1: they were really uncomfortable when you took your shirt off.
Speaker 1: I had my shirt off, and and everything was good
Speaker 1: until that. I I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I've never seen someone exit a hot tub quicker
Speaker 1: than that. As soon as as soon as they got
Speaker 1: out of there, that oh my god, Frankenstein and his
Speaker 1: son had gotten in into the into the hot tub.
Speaker 1: I already I got. I found some photos a few
Speaker 1: months ago. I should, I should, I should take a picture.
Speaker 1: I have a photo of you. I think it's you, me,
Speaker 1: Tony Bruno, and a bunch of the other guys. Uh No,
Speaker 1: this was actually remember that, um we were broadcasting from
Speaker 1: that bar in downtown Indianapolis. Remember it was like a
Speaker 1: Hollywood theme bar thing if you yeah, yeah, they had
Speaker 1: like they I forget what the name it was, but
Speaker 1: that's where we did the show from. So we took up.
Speaker 1: We took a photo, and I should send that. It's hilarious.
Speaker 1: We look so he looks so different, Artie. Remember the
Speaker 1: weather guy in Indianapolis spent his seven minutes of weather
Speaker 1: just ripping me. Yes, yes, the local local. You know
Speaker 1: you've arrived, Arnie when you are the top story on
Speaker 1: the local news and they are bashing you and just
Speaker 1: destroying you. Just smith the reens, Arnie. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was hilarious. I forgot about that. That was it was.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of good times out there, I think.
Speaker 1: And we started off the show like this. Um never
Speaker 1: in my wife did I think of all the things
Speaker 1: I said on the air that the one thing that
Speaker 1: people would always bring back up to me is a
Speaker 1: Laker fan. I remember. I remember they brought me into
Speaker 1: the office and I'm talking like some secret private office
Speaker 1: that's only for the big wigs and people that are
Speaker 1: about to get fired. And they brought me to the
Speaker 1: office and it was like every person, um like every
Speaker 1: boss one higher than the next. And and and one
Speaker 1: guy says to me, you're you're going to have to
Speaker 1: stop to say, You're gonna have to stop saying old
Speaker 1: Laker fans. I said, I excuse me, They go stop
Speaker 1: saying it is defensive. And I said, just tell me
Speaker 1: which words offensive and I'll cut it out all Lakers
Speaker 1: are fans, and he goes, you're going to cut it
Speaker 1: out now, that's what he's going to do. And okay,
Speaker 1: I said, I go, let's everybody calm down. Um, if
Speaker 1: you brought me in, the fire me and just fire me.
Speaker 1: But I'm not stopping a Laker fan. It's it's not
Speaker 1: even anything. It's not even offensive. What's wrong with everybody here?
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. So um, they kind
Speaker 1: of left me alone after that, but with me, it
Speaker 1: gets like a hundred guys about this whole be a
Speaker 1: s Laker fans, Like, really, is that big of a deal? Unbelievable? Well,
Speaker 1: remember the boss and the big Boss at that station.
Speaker 1: Remember he would he would wear those purple suits and
Speaker 1: those bright colored suits and stuff. He's walking around there
Speaker 1: of the power suits and all that back and in
Speaker 1: those days, remember one called Darth Vader. Oh that's right,
Speaker 1: we had We had Darth Vader. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to I'm not gonna name anybody, but
Speaker 1: I remember what we were. Occasionally I would do the
Speaker 1: morning show, we'd fill in on the morning show, and
Speaker 1: I remember the Boss would come in every Monday after
Speaker 1: a very tough weekend, and he would spend like the
Speaker 1: first hour and a half kind of cleaning up in
Speaker 1: the bathroom, if you know what I mean, Like you're
Speaker 1: kind of rubbing his face with some water and trying
Speaker 1: to wake up after a very tough weekend. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: did love our boss, and I get it. One type.
Speaker 1: He came in and when I was doing afternoons and
Speaker 1: he pulled out three hundred dollars cash and I'll give
Speaker 1: you three hundred dollars if you don't take any more
Speaker 1: phone calls for the next hour. Oh yeah, he hated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did not like the calls. He was not a Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was funny. Uh, what are some of the I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think of some of the other crazy stories
Speaker 1: from back back in those days. What was the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles That was just so many different places? I know,
Speaker 1: unlike you just stayed that for your whole life. Well,
Speaker 1: I was in San Diego, but yeah, I'm in southern California,
Speaker 1: but I didn't do I'm beloved Boston Icono. I spent
Speaker 1: two years filling in at w E. I already remotely
Speaker 1: come on and I was ahead of my time. Everyone's
Speaker 1: doing remote broadcast. Now I was ahead of my time already,
Speaker 1: back in those days, they couldn't get anybody else. What
Speaker 1: was that? Well, no, they actually wanted to hire me,
Speaker 1: and they wanted me to move back there. And I
Speaker 1: my wife of course, wouldn't allow me to to move
Speaker 1: back there. But they're like, hey, we'll have you at night.
Speaker 1: You know how radio stations are. They don't cann't put
Speaker 1: anybody to put us on at night. They don't care
Speaker 1: about that. He said, are you kidding me? Or Boston?
Speaker 1: Who will pick l A? What's wrong with you? I
Speaker 1: know Boston is a better sports town. I mean, I
Speaker 1: love that I grew up in l A. Might stay
Speaker 1: up here in Vermont. We we carry the Celtics, the Patriots,
Speaker 1: the Bruins, um, you know, we we carry all the
Speaker 1: teams out, Celtics, all of them. It was great already.
Speaker 1: I was when I was working in e I I
Speaker 1: would be on after the Red Sox. I would have
Speaker 1: to do Red Sox review. After the Red Sox game,
Speaker 1: people will be leaving Finway calling up. Of course, nobody
Speaker 1: knew I was in l A. And they all thought.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, they're asking me about the game.
Speaker 1: You know I was watching the game. But I wasn't there.
Speaker 1: I was still thousands of miles away, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was pretty crazy. So how did they? By the way,
Speaker 1: I can't even understand their accents half the time. I'm like,
Speaker 1: and I know I have a New York accent, but
Speaker 1: Boston accents like one of the top three worth accents
Speaker 1: in the United States. I love it. Man. They would
Speaker 1: find that all the teams win all the time in
Speaker 1: Boston and they still bitch and moment It's great. I
Speaker 1: love it. They they find things to complain about it.
Speaker 1: Just like, so, how the hell did you end up
Speaker 1: in Vermont? Aren't you've lived all over the country. Why
Speaker 1: didn't you settle on Vermont? Explain the secret? I must know?
Speaker 1: Arnie Spaniard witness a relocation. No, um we I was
Speaker 1: in Dallas. I had enough of Dallas. I mean had
Speaker 1: a good time. I was doing nights, I was working
Speaker 1: for CBS. That's just so funny. But when I when
Speaker 1: I got hired by GPS UM, I was supposed to
Speaker 1: go to Detroit, and and three days before I I
Speaker 1: had my car packed and I was ready to roll.
Speaker 1: Three days before I was supposed to go, I got
Speaker 1: a call and go No, no, I can't do Detroit.
Speaker 1: We're gonna send you to Dallas. And I'm like, Dallas, Texas.
Speaker 1: I go and I started to cry, I go, please,
Speaker 1: don't don't do this to me. You know, I'm just
Speaker 1: it's miserable. I can't do this. But um, I ended up,
Speaker 1: you know, going to Dallas, and I had enough for
Speaker 1: that for three years. It was fun, but I still got,
Speaker 1: you know, stood out like a sore thumb. I went
Speaker 1: to Puffle, where my wife was from, because my son
Speaker 1: played hockey, and he went to a private school up there,
Speaker 1: and then um, we took the next step because he
Speaker 1: was getting really really good. We put him in another
Speaker 1: program and that happened to be at Burlington Vermont and
Speaker 1: we ended up staying here because we liked it. So
Speaker 1: my son plays nowt in college and when he finishes there,
Speaker 1: hopefully you'll play somewhere and you know, like in slap
Speaker 1: shots the Federally or something like that. That's unbelievable, man,
Speaker 1: Your little son, who you named after a baseball stadium,
Speaker 1: is now in college. That is insane. That is nuts.
Speaker 1: Hockey Goldie too, out of all positions the hockey goaling.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, the son of a sports talk show
Speaker 1: host is a is an athlete and can play at
Speaker 1: a professional level, possibly when he's done with college. Are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Aren't spend it's a federal league. It's
Speaker 1: you know, it's like slap shot. You know, they get
Speaker 1: drunk before the game and they go out there, they
Speaker 1: play it. They make two a week or something. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: if that happened, maybe you never know, aren't you never?
Speaker 1: Strangest things have happened. And I remember there was a
Speaker 1: writer at the l a Times, a baseball writer whose
Speaker 1: kid made the major leagues? Was it? Yeah, he's David Newsom.
Speaker 1: I think Ross our newhand, Ross Newhand. He was a
Speaker 1: baseball writer at the Times years ago, and his kids
Speaker 1: like made the major league, and every sports writer it
Speaker 1: was like orgasmic, you know, every every g sportswriter was
Speaker 1: like cee cee. We don't really write about it, but
Speaker 1: our kids can make it. We can figure our we
Speaker 1: have genetics. Our kids can make it in baseball and
Speaker 1: all that. Yeah, I just realized. I just realized, Arnie,
Speaker 1: we have completely left David Gascon out of this exactly.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. But are
Speaker 1: you proby eating some kale. Yesterday was kale Day or something.
Speaker 1: It's probably eating some kale. Yeah, But it's the West
Speaker 1: of the four or five guy, you know, Arnie from
Speaker 1: when you lived in the in the l A. Area.
Speaker 1: It's it's different West of the four oh five versus
Speaker 1: four or five. It's a different, different animal. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm not allowing you guys to reminisce about the good
Speaker 1: old days when you guys actually got paid. Well, you
Speaker 1: guys had Christmas parties ever luxurious, and yes, yes we
Speaker 1: got paid what we had freedom, As Arend said, right,
Speaker 1: how great was it Aarnie when we would just b
Speaker 1: s and shoot the ship and do whatever we wanted
Speaker 1: pretty much, and it was wonderful. Oh the parties were
Speaker 1: great too. They that have awesome parties. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of good stuff back then. And I really sometimes
Speaker 1: think that if I if I never left l A.
Speaker 1: I think I went to atlant after l A. I wonder,
Speaker 1: you know how long that would have ended up being
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles? And I probably would have been an
Speaker 1: old man like Ben out there in l How dare
Speaker 1: you are used? When I was a little kid, aren't
Speaker 1: I used to listen to you on the radio, and
Speaker 1: I was a little just like you are, and it's
Speaker 1: so serious I want to be. We had one of
Speaker 1: your colleagues on last week. We had and you worked
Speaker 1: in Chicago. Were at one on one right, you had
Speaker 1: Peter Brown was on your your lineup right? You got Yeah,
Speaker 1: you worked the same We had Peter on last week.
Speaker 1: He's out of the business. He made so much money.
Speaker 1: He's done. He's not doing anything. He's just kind of
Speaker 1: hanging out these days. He's a glassblower. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know that he does glassblowing out there. I
Speaker 1: haven't spoked to Peter in a long long wait wait wait,
Speaker 1: wait wait wait. He said that that's not real? Is
Speaker 1: he said that? I thought he was bssing. That's not real.
Speaker 1: That's that's what he does. That He I guess, really
Speaker 1: good at it. So that's what he does. Oh, I
Speaker 1: thought he was kidding. I didn't know. I thought he
Speaker 1: was pulling my chain. I thought that there's no way
Speaker 1: he's not doing that. That's crazy. That's what he's doing
Speaker 1: now night, I think Chicago. Yeah, a lot of guys
Speaker 1: who used to work with there's that too many left around. Uh.
Speaker 1: That are still doing radio. That's kind of scary, Aret,
Speaker 1: right when you think about all the people we worked
Speaker 1: with and some good people, some talented people, and like
Speaker 1: we're like the last of the Mohicans here. It's crazy
Speaker 1: for getting old, my friend, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, well, my hair disappeared, But other than that,
Speaker 1: I feel young, are other than my, other than my
Speaker 1: But you know, I just bought a bunch of hats,
Speaker 1: aren't That's all? And I'm gonna shave my I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I think I'm gonna buzz my what's your advice?
Speaker 1: Are you lost your hair for us? Like? Should I
Speaker 1: just buzz my hair and get rid of it? Lose
Speaker 1: my hair? I choose to wear like this? No, that's
Speaker 1: a lie. That's a lie, Arn'tie, that's a lie. So really,
Speaker 1: what we're saying, Gascon is you should learn how to
Speaker 1: blow glass, is what we're saying. Well, there's plenty of
Speaker 1: glass around here in Sherman Oaks. So for kind though,
Speaker 1: our Arnie, you guys, well you're sons with sending us
Speaker 1: the great Christmas gift of all time. Like we get
Speaker 1: some kind of jankie gifts that I kind of popped
Speaker 1: to Ben every year, but you send the maple syrup
Speaker 1: and the pancake mix from Vermont, and well, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's you or your wife. I I you
Speaker 1: don't understand the joy and glee that you get from
Speaker 1: some of the colleagues here at Fox, because like that
Speaker 1: is that really is a Christmas gift beyond Christmas gifts,
Speaker 1: especially especially during the holiday season when we come in
Speaker 1: here there's nobody around and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's just a box of goodies from Arnie and courtesy Vera.
Speaker 1: Somebody took the bosses I said, want to try to
Speaker 1: get just about everybody, uh you know, producers on not
Speaker 1: on air, but producers and and the blosses. Somebody took
Speaker 1: the bosses one and walked out with it. It's good
Speaker 1: because I wrote the names on each box and somebody
Speaker 1: just said I'm taking this one and left with it.
Speaker 1: The boss ever got one, It's it's glorious. Man. Hey,
Speaker 1: do you have I mean, I'm kind of curious because
Speaker 1: you and Ben A bounced all over the place with
Speaker 1: stations and networks. Do you have any professional regrets? The
Speaker 1: only professional regrets um I would have is not taking
Speaker 1: a job to not being more serious. Um, when people
Speaker 1: called me, I think when we first started out that
Speaker 1: I went from the network to Phoenix. I got a
Speaker 1: call from Seattle. Um that were really I mean that
Speaker 1: the job certainly could have been mine. And and you
Speaker 1: know what Sonny Betton's um uh and David the Jim Rome,
Speaker 1: the syndicated show that he does now which was went
Speaker 1: out of Sermon Oaks. That came down between me, Jim
Speaker 1: and I think Scott Farrell and I knew nothing about syndication.
Speaker 1: I was working in Phoenix and they called me up
Speaker 1: and said, yeah, I go, what's this all about? The
Speaker 1: said you'll have to move back to l A. Sherman Oaks.
Speaker 1: I go, we could to stop there. I'm not moving anywhere.
Speaker 1: I like Phoenix. I'm crushing it here, so you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing nothing. So UM, you know that that
Speaker 1: would have been a regret if I would have paid
Speaker 1: that more. And I think the biggest regret I probably
Speaker 1: have though I don't know how well I would have
Speaker 1: done this job. Um. Do you remember Opie and Anthony? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: in New York and they got in trouble for doing
Speaker 1: some sex spit where some listeners went to a church
Speaker 1: or something like that, and they got fired and they
Speaker 1: were looking for a replacement, and once again it came
Speaker 1: down between me and Scott Pharrell. Um is the last
Speaker 1: two and they gave it to Scott, and I think
Speaker 1: they end up getting rid of him after a year.
Speaker 1: That was like a really really tough job and we
Speaker 1: were supposed to go solo. So um. I mean, those
Speaker 1: those are a few, but for the most part, I
Speaker 1: have no regrets. Man. You take the jobs you want,
Speaker 1: you pass on the ones you don't, and you just
Speaker 1: keep looking at the head and hopefully you did the
Speaker 1: right decision. Yeah, we we had Farrell. He worked at
Speaker 1: our place for a little bit in in l he
Speaker 1: was he was out there, and we also worked at
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio years ago. We you know, it beat
Speaker 1: somebo I've start to Scott about this when it's I mean,
Speaker 1: there's at least three or four times jobs have come
Speaker 1: down just between Scott and I and I got two
Speaker 1: of him and he got two of them, and UM,
Speaker 1: it's just weird because you usually don't see something like that. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not a guy. I mean I would certainly look
Speaker 1: at a bunch of stuff, but I would turn out
Speaker 1: a lot of jobs to now do you have a
Speaker 1: big agent on because I had an agent like a
Speaker 1: year and he just didn't work. He didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, you get the job, and then all
Speaker 1: all of them the goost the contract. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: what's the point of that. I can do that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't how to negotiate a contract. Well, who cares?
Speaker 1: You know. I used to have an agent back in
Speaker 1: the day, but they always say you are your own
Speaker 1: best agent. Nobody's gonna work as hard for you as
Speaker 1: you know. I I just thought, like some people in
Speaker 1: the industry, um, you know that were former program directors.
Speaker 1: But other than that, I've had an agent about twenty
Speaker 1: years or something like that. Yeah, And I people ask me, like,
Speaker 1: young guys are like, how do you get in the business?
Speaker 1: You know, I was like, you pretty much just have
Speaker 1: to stick around because like all the guys aren't that
Speaker 1: used to be our producers and are you know the
Speaker 1: guys behind the scenes, the board ops, they all be
Speaker 1: game program directors and they all became you know, they
Speaker 1: moved The people that stayed in radio, they all moved
Speaker 1: up and they have good jobs now and they're people
Speaker 1: people we know from years ago. I have producers who
Speaker 1: now run are the program directors of Bosses in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: in Detroit, in Scargotting, North Carolina. Um, it's amazing. And
Speaker 1: now with podcasts like this, you if you're trying to
Speaker 1: start off in the radio or anything, to start your
Speaker 1: own podcasts and you know, get clicks and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to get into radio now than
Speaker 1: it was back then. For us. Oh yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a nightmare to get a radio show, even like on
Speaker 1: a Saturday morning. It was you couldn't do it. It's
Speaker 1: all about getting your reps right already. Gotta get comfortable
Speaker 1: from a microphone and find your style. And you can
Speaker 1: do that on a podcast, which is obviously a lot
Speaker 1: different than a radio show because the radio show you
Speaker 1: get the clock and all that crap. You gotta deal
Speaker 1: with a bunch of you. You look back at, you
Speaker 1: look back at down. If we would have had podcasts
Speaker 1: to kind of get our feet wet, things weren't been
Speaker 1: a lot different. You know, think about that first station
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, CAMPC. It was like who's who? Famous
Speaker 1: people out there like Jim Moiapily and stuff. Yeah, looking
Speaker 1: at the stars of the world. Oh no, no. I
Speaker 1: when I got into it, I thought I was gonna
Speaker 1: be like a minor league played by Playgue. I interned
Speaker 1: at six ninety in San Diego, had hacks On and
Speaker 1: and Rome was doing a local show and they had,
Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of a bunch of big name
Speaker 1: guys also that we're doing shows there. And I was like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna work. And then I just kind of
Speaker 1: stuck around and but you're right, seven ten. They had
Speaker 1: a huge budget and it didn't work. They didn't get
Speaker 1: the numbers, and so they eventually changed they changed it
Speaker 1: around after after what what's the most trouble you got
Speaker 1: in Arnie, Like, what's the that's something you did on
Speaker 1: the air? What is the craziest bit that you did
Speaker 1: that Did you ever get in trouble with Like you
Speaker 1: mentioned the Lakers, but like with a coach or a
Speaker 1: player that you were going after and they were they
Speaker 1: were upset with you. I don't know if I got
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble for this, but I think it
Speaker 1: one of the biggest regrets I had um when I
Speaker 1: was doing this show with Dave, your former partner and
Speaker 1: we had Rudy, I'm John of it, John, and things
Speaker 1: were going great. We're having a great talk. And for
Speaker 1: some reason, you know, I'm just such a smartass, I said, well, Rudy,
Speaker 1: let it be one thing. Let it be known that
Speaker 1: you certainly can take a punch, you know, because of
Speaker 1: what happened in me. Yeah, for those killed, for those
Speaker 1: under the age of like sixty. Uh. That one of
Speaker 1: the great moments. I'm not one of the great moments,
Speaker 1: were one of the crazy. He got punched Curvitt Washington right,
Speaker 1: punched him, right, yeah, yeah, punch and it almost him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And when we when we say punched, not just like
Speaker 1: a small punch, like a direct hit type of punch, yes, right, right,
Speaker 1: And and I think he just said, um, okay, you
Speaker 1: guys have a good day or something like that. He
Speaker 1: he didn't think it was funny put it that way.
Speaker 1: He wasn't laughed. And that guy was laughing. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's crazy. And who's who's the I just got you.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, did you really say that.
Speaker 1: I'm not even laughed. That's that's that's who's the worst
Speaker 1: program actor? You had? Aren't you want the worst program
Speaker 1: director X me you already talked about the golf balls
Speaker 1: in Chicago. We both have great stories about our program
Speaker 1: director we had in l A who I love the
Speaker 1: death but I used I love the guy in retrospect.
Speaker 1: But I mean, we've we've had some crazy things that
Speaker 1: have happened. I've had program directors who have given me
Speaker 1: terrible advice. What's the worst advice you got from a
Speaker 1: program director? The worst thing? I had one in Phoenix
Speaker 1: had no business at a sports station, and he told
Speaker 1: me he wanted to get rid of me. And I
Speaker 1: was not, um. You know, I had no idea what
Speaker 1: the hell was going on with radio and how things
Speaker 1: were supposed to be handled. And I remember he goes,
Speaker 1: he goes, who did you have on to that? I said,
Speaker 1: that was Paul Westfaul. He goes, who's that? And I
Speaker 1: just almost started to cry. I know who is this guy?
Speaker 1: And you don't even know Westca. I wouldn't worry about
Speaker 1: it if I were you, But I don't think you're
Speaker 1: gonna be here much longer. We're gonna get rid of you.
Speaker 1: I said, you're gonna get rid of me? Huh? I said,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I picked up the phone right
Speaker 1: there in front of everybody. We were having a meeting.
Speaker 1: I was so friendly, didn't say that in front of
Speaker 1: people's was just too much. And I called the owner
Speaker 1: um of the of the of the whole cluster, and
Speaker 1: I said, right here in a meeting with so and so,
Speaker 1: he said that you guys are getting rid of me.
Speaker 1: This is in front of him. And the guy tells
Speaker 1: me on the phone. He goes, yeah, I wouldn't worry
Speaker 1: about that. He's the one we're getting rid of. And
Speaker 1: I just hug up the phone. Oh wow, that's great.
Speaker 1: And they fired him a day later. So that was
Speaker 1: that was That was one uncomfortable situation. But otherwise, for
Speaker 1: the most party kind of got wrong with my boss?
Speaker 1: Is it? Then you would always pick on people like
Speaker 1: us because you can't pick on the athletes, you know,
Speaker 1: like the loans of the world that you used to
Speaker 1: work with. You you can't do that, so you have
Speaker 1: to pick on people like us. Oh yeah, we remember
Speaker 1: that station they had Karl Malone Terry Bradshaw did a
Speaker 1: show at the station. Yeah. Yeah, there was like a
Speaker 1: different there was a code. There was a pecking order,
Speaker 1: as there is in every business. But yeah, the regular
Speaker 1: radio working stiff like Arnie Spanier and me. We would
Speaker 1: we would take the brunt of the races, like if
Speaker 1: the ratings were not good or if you know, the
Speaker 1: program director was having a bad day, he would take
Speaker 1: it out on guys like us. But the star athlete,
Speaker 1: you know, you're doing a great job. I remember they
Speaker 1: had to go to and I love Terry Bradshaw, but
Speaker 1: they had to go to his house sometimes because he
Speaker 1: forgot to do the show and they had to find
Speaker 1: him to do the show. And they never really yelled
Speaker 1: at him for that. If I imagine if we had
Speaker 1: done that, aren't you we're not going to show up
Speaker 1: one of these days? Even remember when we were we
Speaker 1: were in first back, we were on the high Rise,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like four fourteen fifteen, and I was
Speaker 1: coming in through the afternoon drive and the guy that
Speaker 1: was on before me, I'm not going to say his name.
Speaker 1: I saw him hallway and he was literally on before me,
Speaker 1: and I go hey, he goes hey, and he just
Speaker 1: lucks by, and I think I must be going to
Speaker 1: the bathroom and I walk into the to the you know,
Speaker 1: to the offices. I walked by the studio about two
Speaker 1: or three minutes later, I got here, we're so and so,
Speaker 1: we're so, and so I go I just some walked
Speaker 1: by me, got an elevator. The guy went down to
Speaker 1: get a sandwich in the middle of the so I'm
Speaker 1: cool that and they fired the producer and they had
Speaker 1: to tell the guy that you can't fire the producer
Speaker 1: because the host was out. They get a sandwich that
Speaker 1: I got a sandwich, build the show, well, Arnie, in fairness,
Speaker 1: that cafeteria did have good sandwiches in that Bo was right.
Speaker 1: It was right near the Warner Brothers, right across the
Speaker 1: street from Brothers, and they had amazing And did you
Speaker 1: ever go to adults in those days? Aren't we remember?
Speaker 1: You guys would, but you've never invited me, So I
Speaker 1: would never, Arnie. I I my entire twenties, late twenties,
Speaker 1: I spent adults. It was unbelievable. Everyone I never you
Speaker 1: never went with We had all like that, those nineties
Speaker 1: sitcoms like I'm Trying to Signfeld was on at that time.
Speaker 1: Here not er. I don't think Scheers was on. That
Speaker 1: was more of the eighties. But you guys would never.
Speaker 1: You would always call what you guys tears I'd like
Speaker 1: to go with you. No, no, no, we're just going home.
Speaker 1: It was it was crazy like l a bar with
Speaker 1: all the burbank but all these Hollywood people from those
Speaker 1: sitcoms that carry show they would come in there. That
Speaker 1: was there. But you get to hang out with guys
Speaker 1: like Gascon you know the day here in Vermont. I'm
Speaker 1: like one of the four famous guys out here. It
Speaker 1: Spending Jerry, Me and and uh and Bernie Sanders. So
Speaker 1: that's pretty much the four famous people that live out
Speaker 1: here in Vermont. Is there a sign Arnie when you
Speaker 1: enter this is the home of Arnie Spaniard, the stinking genius,
Speaker 1: Oh Laker fans, Well, there would be, but we have
Speaker 1: a lot here. There's no billboards allowed in the state,
Speaker 1: so we keep the queen out here. Bet we don't
Speaker 1: allow that stuff. But isn't there Like the taxes are good,
Speaker 1: right like I when I when I did stuff at
Speaker 1: e I, a lot of the people would live in
Speaker 1: they live in Vermont, New Hampshire. Yeah, New Hampshire. That's
Speaker 1: right because it was cheaper and you didn't you didn't
Speaker 1: have to pay the taxes of message. Not so cheap
Speaker 1: up here in Vermont. Especially in Berwin did it's not
Speaker 1: so cheap. Think I live in a townhouse. I live
Speaker 1: in a condo. You you live in a mansion. You
Speaker 1: live in a man That is a lie. You have
Speaker 1: like an entire block acres and acres of land, and
Speaker 1: you've got like maple trees and like the whole thing.
Speaker 1: You got, you got the whole thing going on. Don't
Speaker 1: lie to me. You're you're you're the ball or you're
Speaker 1: the ball. Are Arnies fan? You're come on? You know
Speaker 1: they have a place. It's so funny. But everything gets
Speaker 1: so big here. There's only my wife and I was
Speaker 1: my soul's in college, and our places like square feet.
Speaker 1: I go, we need to place this big. I like,
Speaker 1: it's it's ridiculous. It's like three levels and there's only
Speaker 1: two people in the house. Well, every night on you
Speaker 1: can go to a different room. It's like you're in
Speaker 1: a it's like you're staying at a hotel. Right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna looking at this roll. It's unbelievable. It's amazing here.
Speaker 1: It's not that big. But I live. I live in
Speaker 1: an area where there's a lot of retired people, so
Speaker 1: I'm like the youngest, I'm my block. People go to
Speaker 1: Vermont to retire. I thought you go to Florida, Arizona retired.
Speaker 1: They come up here for the summers and then they
Speaker 1: go down to South Carolina or Florida for the winners,
Speaker 1: so they do one of those days. Yeah, well, you're
Speaker 1: like an old New Yorker. Shouldn't you go to Florida? Like,
Speaker 1: shouldn't you have a place in Florida? Also, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: haven't left here though, you know, I got my own
Speaker 1: studio up here. I haven't, you know, with the Corona,
Speaker 1: I'm not traveling munch. It's it's it's pretty easy. I'm
Speaker 1: right across from New York, and it takes me about
Speaker 1: four hours or three three hours to get the Boston
Speaker 1: four and a half to get to New York. I'm
Speaker 1: about an hour from Montreal, so I'm not that far
Speaker 1: for some major places. It's pretty cool. Are you are
Speaker 1: you a waiting guest? Are you awake over there and fall?
Speaker 1: It's it's Friday night. I'm of course I'm awake. I'm
Speaker 1: just doing I'm Friday night. I thought it was Friday morning.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was going, not have any idea.
Speaker 1: He's just ready to go party. This weekend. That guy
Speaker 1: now with King Newsom. Here in this state, we don't
Speaker 1: do any of that, aren't. I don't know what it's
Speaker 1: like out Vermont, oh, Arnie, Yeah, yeah, it's brewing California. Man,
Speaker 1: you can't. They don't even want you to leave your
Speaker 1: house today. It's like a police state out here. It's nuts.
Speaker 1: We I look at the numbers here for Vermont, Um.
Speaker 1: We usually get like two to five new infections a day.
Speaker 1: We had one that was in like twelve and people
Speaker 1: were freaking out, going, oh my goodness, we're here. It
Speaker 1: comes we're really gonna be bombarded now. But we're usually
Speaker 1: single digits per day. A matter of fact, we alway
Speaker 1: have had about eighteen hundred new infections since March, since
Speaker 1: it's all started. We're we're like the last state. The
Speaker 1: state above us is triple the amount of us. So
Speaker 1: we're really having it not pretty decent out here. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's probably because you guys took the appropriate
Speaker 1: steps like we're supposed to do now, where you guys
Speaker 1: actually eat your food and then put your mask back
Speaker 1: on eat your food. I saw that. I mean most
Speaker 1: people out here, we have a lot of outdoor seating
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys have that in California too, So
Speaker 1: we do a lot of that, a lot of take out,
Speaker 1: but we don't have a lot of people, as you
Speaker 1: know out here. I think it's like four hundred five
Speaker 1: hundred thousand in my you know, in the whole growing
Speaker 1: pin uh, pretty much less than a million in the
Speaker 1: whole damn state. Now, Arnie, what do you coming back
Speaker 1: to l A? I guess not after. I guess it's
Speaker 1: gonna have to wait till after COVID. Right, you came
Speaker 1: out here, well, I wanted to come back to see
Speaker 1: my marvels an assistant living. Um, I couldn't do that
Speaker 1: in the summer. I was actually to come back a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, but the assistant living is closed.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have to wait, so probably after the
Speaker 1: first of the year and let this thing, you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully died down a little bit and I'll travel is
Speaker 1: I you know, it's just so tough right now, and
Speaker 1: then when you come back, you got to quarantine yourself,
Speaker 1: and it's just too tough right now. So hopefully I'll
Speaker 1: be back in l A soon, but I hope it's
Speaker 1: probably gonna take till after the first of the year.
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy. And I read a story that like,
Speaker 1: do you think flying is like unsafe right because of
Speaker 1: the air, But they say that it's actually not because
Speaker 1: they actually the planes now for many years have taken
Speaker 1: outside air. That's so it's not you're not actually breathing
Speaker 1: the same air over and over again. And so that
Speaker 1: was actually I haven't gone anywhere. I haven't flown anywhere
Speaker 1: since this all started. But from what I read that,
Speaker 1: you know, who knows, maybe it's bullcrap, but they made
Speaker 1: it seem like it's not that risky as long as
Speaker 1: I have like a private airport for me here in Brobington.
Speaker 1: You know that I live like two miles from the airport.
Speaker 1: So if I'm leaving for a flight, I will leave
Speaker 1: no earlier than maybe forty five minutes before my flight.
Speaker 1: It takes me five minutes to get there. The t
Speaker 1: S A agent. The t S A agent. His name
Speaker 1: is Jarvis. He used to be my boss at the
Speaker 1: radio station here, so he's like hery lord, I got Jarvis,
Speaker 1: just come out, bro walk out. I'm to day. It's
Speaker 1: about twenty minutes. Yeah, of course, l a X. Here's
Speaker 1: you know, Arenie, you gotta get there three hours before
Speaker 1: the flight. And oh my god, what a nightmare, man,
Speaker 1: What a bleeping nightmare that is? It is? Are you
Speaker 1: doing the radio seven days a week now? Aren't you're doing?
Speaker 1: Because you were? I'm not doing nothing too extensive. I'm
Speaker 1: doing four pm to six Monday to Friday here locally,
Speaker 1: UM one of my U, one of the local pumpkins
Speaker 1: here in town, and then U the Sunday and Sunday
Speaker 1: night and at Fox. So I'm keeping myself busy. No
Speaker 1: doubt that the grind, the Arnie Span, your grind, making
Speaker 1: the big real grind, the real grind. You're the highest
Speaker 1: paid radio guy in Vermont? Is that true or false?
Speaker 1: There you can look at you alright, Arnie. I love you, man.
Speaker 1: We go way back me. Man, you're the greatest Arnie.
Speaker 1: I thank you for doing. Thank you for finally asking
Speaker 1: me after three and a half years of doing your
Speaker 1: podcast about as every person and every every even people
Speaker 1: out of radio. But I do appreciate that gas guy,
Speaker 1: you need to not talk as much next time. You
Speaker 1: took up way too much time. Hey, listen, I give
Speaker 1: away for you guys. Consider the fact. So we're doing
Speaker 1: old Guy Radio, Me and and Arnie Man. We're talking
Speaker 1: about war stories. Man, back in the good old days,
Speaker 1: all right, come on, if they were good old days,
Speaker 1: but they were days, they were days. We love you, Arnie,
Speaker 1: Thank you Man, appreciate it. I love you guys. Those
Speaker 1: read you later. To be sure to catch live editions
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