WEBVTT - Vermont Maple Syrup 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.400 Be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Maller 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:05.600 Show week days at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:11.520 If you thought four hours a day, minutes a week 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:15.080 was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants of 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.720 the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.600 crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:26.040 pill poppers in the penthouse, the Clearinghouse of hot takes, 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.920 break free or something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:34.440 Maller starts right now that it does. It is a Friday, 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.800 which means a conversation with someone we like in someone 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:40.720 we know. I say that in air quotes because four 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.319 hours or not enough on the overnight show during the week, 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.000 and we do this now eight days a week, eight 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:50.000 days a week, and joined for better or worse. I 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:51.760 guess this week we would say for worse after that 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:53.320 performance the other night. We'll get to that in the 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:59.280 Saturday podcast where David guesstcon sabotaged the show one Night 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.760 of Torture as a producer sitting in for the Cooper Loop. 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.320 But he is over there a gascon. Somehow you made 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.720 it back to the podcast battered and bruised, but happy 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.360 to be here. As always a nice warm welcome from 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.560 you as uh we get into a Friday edition. So 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.000 thanks for having me back. I appreciate it. After that, 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:18.920 the militia thought you did a great job. I put 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.560 up there on my Twitter feed to grade the performance 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:26.160 of Gascon producing the show, and they really voted some 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.200 good things for you. So you got that kind of 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:33.120 an assholes produced, Like kind of an asshole are you? 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.920 I was just pointing out, you know, tough love. Tough 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:37.800 love makes you better. But it's not about you, guess 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.199 because right now one of our college I have worked 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.880 with this guy at two different places over the years, 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:47.320 at least two, probably more than that. The man he's 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.720 lived the life of like a military brat. He started 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.400 out in southern California. To my note, he's lived everywhere, 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:57.200 literally everywhere, from coast to coast in the United States 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:00.920 and done radio. Have a microphone, have phones, will work. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:05.560 The man known as the Stinking Genius, the star of 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:10.960 fs are. On the weekends, the great Arnie Spaniard is saying, 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:17.639 Laker Fast, Let's go on, Arni, Arni, Oh my god, 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.160 I think we should start with that Arnie, because when 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.840 I when I first met you. You came in. You 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.760 had worked in Chicago, if I remember correctly, right, I 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.040 think you were in Chicago. I don't remember. I don't remember. 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.680 You worked all over the place, but you were hired 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:34.720 as the big afternoon guy at the sports station in 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:36.919 l A that we were was working at the time, 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.160 and I remember, I think it was Mike Thompson was 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.000 the program director, if I remember correctly, and Mike he 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.840 sang the praises of you, Arnie and oh my god, 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.880 and you came in there with guns of blazing. That 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:54.160 was back in the Shaq Kobe period of time. What 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:56.880 time that was. And the funny part is when I 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.639 was up in Chicago and I got the job offer, 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.000 company wouldn't let me leave because I was under contract 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.680 for another year. So I'm like, well, you're not gonna 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.239 keep me here for a year, and they're like, yeah, 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:10.520 you can't leave. I go, wait a minute. You're not 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.000 gonna give me a new contract. You're not gonna let 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.320 me go. Um, You're you're not gonna give me anything. 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.640 You're not gonna give me more money, and they just 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.560 stared at me. I go, I am not leaving this 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.200 office until you give me something, and I was so 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:27.000 furious at the owner that I reached over and grabbed 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.720 a dozen goal balls. I go, I'm taking these golf balls, 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:31.720 and I'm leaving. And I just walked out of the 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:33.960 office and I could hear them laughter you as I 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.080 walked out. It's hard to believe, Annie, that a radio 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.800 company would not treat its employees. Well, that does not 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.160 happen in radio, right, Arntie. I mean we were well paid, 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.520 we make a lot of money, we live a great life. Yes, 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.640 it's shocking and shocking. They just wouldn't say, yeah, go ahead, 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.160 do it, you lot, and they go moved to Los 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.920 Angeles and and bother. When I got the l you guys, 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.720 I mean, you guys treated me like I had leprosy, 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.240 the contagious leprosy, not the non contagious one in papion, 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.280 the one that's contagious. Because I'm like, who is this guy? 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.480 I can't believe they're giving him afternoon drive? What's wrong 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.440 with people around here? I can't believe this. It was. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.120 It was insane. Well, Arnie, I gotta tell you you 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:16.039 know how to make an entrance, because you know who 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.480 knows if this is accurate, not but from what I remember, 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.880 you came in and you took shot. It's like going 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.719 to the church and taking shots at a priest. You 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:30.280 were you were taking shots at Kobe and Shock right away, 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.880 like you didn't waste any time the most And I 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.080 love that about you. Aren't because I'm right there with you. Man. 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.479 I despised the Lakers, but you were throwing haymakers at 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:43.120 the Lakers from day one. They're not gonna win, They're 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.120 not gonna win, and you were annoying the hell out 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.760 of people. Was a brilliant strategy by you on There 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.720 was no strategy in this. You know, I came there 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.400 and and we really doing this. You just said whatever 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.599 the hell you wanted back then, there was no you know, 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:59.640 let me tell you, you you gotta say this, you gotta 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:01.080 do that had and you've got to be this kind 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.920 of person. And it was It was just amazing because 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.400 you know, the Lakers had not won in a long 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.400 long time. And that's remember when we started that thing. 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.000 If the Lakers win the championship, I said that year, 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.280 I'll watch everybody's car in l a And how many 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.479 times do you say something when the season begins and 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.880 then you know, eight nine months later in June, it 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.719 actually turns out that the Lakers won the championship, and 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.760 we're playing that stupid song car wash like every day too, 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.760 or three times a day for eight months. I mean people, 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.560 people didn't wash their cars for like a year just 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.840 to go ahead get a watch for free in case 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.480 the Lakers won the championship. And if I remember correctly, 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.839 that was like the best day of my life, the 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.120 Lakers Woman Championship. We had that that we had like, 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:50.680 uh cars lined up like three four miles long, helicopters 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.720 flying over and it was you in Dave that we're 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.640 actually helping watching the cars and doing the show. Why, 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:58.880 I was just meeting, greeting people. I'm saying hello. It 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:02.440 was really great. Xactly was on Ventura Boulevard, and you know, 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:04.839 I think it was if I remember, it was the hand. 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:06.479 I don't know if it's still there or not. I 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:10.520 have not driven down. Yeah, the giant oversized hand on 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.960 Ventura Boulevard, which is a staple of l A in 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.200 the San Fernando Valley. And yeah, so you know, I 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:17.880 was the Benny I was doing the Ben and Dave 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.880 show at at the time, and so you know, we 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:22.440 were not, and we were competing. She was not a 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.000 competing We're on the same team, but you were the 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:27.960 big afternoon star. And so yeah, I remember we parked 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.880 there and the line of cars from the hand car 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.320 washing army as far as I could see down Ventura 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.640 Boulevard which goes on forever, right and as far as Legacy, 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.720 And then you're right, and you didn't wash any car. 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.400 You sat there in a Hawaiian shirt, smoking cigars, and 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.839 you were sitting in like a folding chair, if I 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:52.120 remember correctly. And we I actually watched, I actually got 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.480 my hands dirty. I did more car watching than you 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.160 did that day. And the police came up to men. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:58.719 They go, you know, we're gonna have to shut this down. 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:02.320 It's causing too much of a uh you know, traffic jam. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.360 And I said, don't you dare. You're not shut nothing. Now. 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.960 This is the best thing ever. And it was just great. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.000 They had Laker players coming. You know. I want to 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:16.000 tell you when in that series, this was like the 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:17.720 best thing I ever did. I got in so much 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.320 trouble for this, not not really in trouble, trouble, but 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.720 believe me, if there if there was a baseball pat 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:24.320 somebody would have hit me over the head with it. 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:27.520 Do you remember when we were doing when we first 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:31.760 were doing remote at Staples, Um, right next to Staples, 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.600 there was that big glass room that there was nothing in. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.120 I think, now it's a Starbucks, right then, help me 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:41.000 if i'm if I'm thinking that was Yeah, when Staples opened, 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.080 they didn't have anything. It was kind of empty. And 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.040 then and then across the street was a parking lot 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.760 which is now the l A Complex whatever they call it, 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.600 right next to Staples, right next to it it is 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.800 I think it's a Starbucks style. But it was wide open, glass, 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.920 wide open, and we were doing the show. I was 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.120 doing the show in there. I noticed I don't know 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:06.400 why this happened, but when I went to a commercial break, UM, 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.160 they would stop playing the commercials outside on the speaker. 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.560 But when I was doing the show, you could hear 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.000 the show, which is obvious, right. But when I went 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.960 to a commercial break, they would cut the commercials but 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:21.520 the mic was still hot, so like, oh no, yeah, 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.960 I could talk to the people outside. So I thought 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.000 I'd have a little fun and I and we went 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.000 to a commercial. I get on the I get on 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.800 the on the Mike and I go, welcome to Game 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:35.480 six Portland and los A. Kobe Bryant out broke and 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:40.320 Land and people told people are looking to be like 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.080 he is. He is, he told the Jude, I go, 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:48.560 he's God. He won't play that e R. All I 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:53.559 know is after after about thirty seconds of saying this um, 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.880 our boss came in Mike Thompson. He said something like 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:01.360 didn't you please stop? But not in those words, different words, 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:05.800 different tone, And let me tell you something had had 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:07.320 he could say, if he could have grabbed me by 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.800 the neck and thrown me out in traffic on the 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.520 four on the freeway, I would have been in traffic. 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.960 The Lakers have been so mad at me that they 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.320 called my bosses, who had to run down to the 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:23.360 remote and tell me to uh please be quiet and 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:27.280 something like that. But I mean, I've never seen on 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.360 a he was red faced A couple of times. He was. 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.040 He was like a boiling thing. I wanted to take 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:34.800 a pit and pop. But my thought he was thought 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.600 he could have a heart attack. You know, I love Mike, 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:39.880 our our old boss, Mike Thompson. I love the guy, 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:41.520 but he was such a hot ahead of times. I 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:43.240 remember we would do a bad segment of the Ben 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.199 and Dave Show, and he was listening in his office 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.560 and he would become he would become rumbling down the 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:51.920 hall and he would like bang his hands against the 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.440 wall about how bad that segment of radio was and 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.360 started screaming, shoutting. But as far as that classroom, arty, 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.800 all right, I have some of my favorite reason radio 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.520 in that classroom. I don't know if you were there 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.840 that night, and maybe not. They were the riot say 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:09.160 to riot after they were you in there? This? Yeah? 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.000 I was. I was there. You know what's funny. I 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.160 was coming out of Staples after the Lakers won the championship, 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:18.200 riding outside. Um. We were supposed to do the post 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.640 game from that room. Ye, all I had to do 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:22.840 was go out from Staples. You might have been with 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:24.679 me at that time, and all we had to do 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.040 was walk a hundred stats, not even that much. Go 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.640 to the room. I come out, I see, of course, 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:32.800 a couple of things getting burned, a couple of cop 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.360 cars getting burned. And and as soon as I step out, 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:39.680 I hear there's already sire, And I turned over to 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.200 the policeman and he goes, yeah, you're on your own. 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.520 So I said that. I said, Ben, why don't you 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.360 go over and get ready for the romote. I'm gonna 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.800 stay here for a while so I can figure out 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:54.120 how to get over. Arnie. Let me tell you that 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.280 was the craziest night because as you said, there were 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.280 several cop cars that got burned. There was a channel 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.800 to news van that guy burned, and we are broadcasting. 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.320 All there is is a bright of glass in front 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.400 of us, and the mob is outside, and I remember 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.959 they started a fire on the street in right across 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:11.839 from Staples Center. There right in front of us. There 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.560 was a little street which is still there, and they 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:18.000 were dancing. They were doing a chance dancing around the 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.719 fire in the street, as I remember. Uh. And then 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.320 we remember who we sent out. I don't know if 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:23.880 you came in there. I think you got in the evention. 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.839 But we sent out Vic the Brick because the mob 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.440 loved Vic. Vic was like our on site reporter. They 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.440 couldn't get enough of it. They were chanting his name, 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.320 and we love you, Vic. You got and we got 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.320 in trouble because they're like, they're riding and burning the 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.920 cop cars and and of course the boss comes to 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:41.960 this you can't say you that, don't say that. So 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.559 I got on the mic and go, come on down. Family, 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:51.880 filled out this year breathing. I want to I want 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.520 to say this speaking about her old boss. Do you 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.880 remember what he wanted me to do with that sports bar? 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.760 Refresh my memory. There were so many crazy promotions we 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.360 did with people being buried alive, and that's what he 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.400 wanted me to do. He wanted me to one to 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:12.160 be buried alive six feet under in the concrete and dude, 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:18.319 that's not happening. I will die down there in concrete. 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.200 So Tom Mooney did it. And it's funny, but I 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:26.360 think our boss passed out from drinking. So nobody was 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.640 guarding the area where Mooney was buried, and I remember 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.520 we were talking to we go. Tom was running out, 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.480 What are we going to do? We can't get you 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.839 out here? Running out and we had him been a 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.120 full paddent looking back at that, but it wasn't very funny, 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.319 but it was funny. Oh no, that stuff was hilarious. 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.040 We remember we put somebody on I don't know if 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:46.360 you were here at the time. We put somebody a 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.959 billboard into because the clippers had a long losing stream. 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.360 We put a Ali McKay. We put her on the 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.280 billboard for like until they won, and that became a 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.480 news story. One of the funny things. I want to 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:59.000 tell you one more the best, the best truck anybody 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.040 ever had when we were doing in l A. And 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.120 you known him, but you never brought up his name. 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.000 We had a guy that they hired I don't even 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:09.480 know who the hell he wants. We called him three 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.199 way Freddie, and all he had to do was take 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:16.080 this brand new Honda and drive around watching Dodger games 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.720 wherever they traveled. And at the end of the summer, 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:20.760 you got to keep the Honda and he would never 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.080 call it to night show. He was supposed to call 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.560 it like every day, and he would never call it. 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.079 And he kept the Hansa. Do you remember that I 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.360 got Freddie? I don't. I don't remember. I remember we 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:34.360 had Check was our our promotions guy at the time, 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.320 one of our promotions guys, and he was driving around 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:41.439 the promotions vehicle and we would google was a Honda Honda. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.280 I don't remember that. But you know one of the 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:45.360 one of the one of the interns, Arnie at that 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.120 station is now the head football coach of the Texas 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.080 Long Lawrence. Can you aieve that that is a nuts? 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.200 Tom Herman, who's the coach of Texas, was an intern 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.120 at the station me and Arnie worked at back in 0:13:56.160 --> 0:14:03.400 the day, Sam whatever your name is now, Yeah, how 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:04.640 much you think you get? I don't know how much 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.240 he's getting paid. He must be getting paid like five 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.200 million dollars a year to coach at Texas. I would 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.720 think he has a big time that we got that job, 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:17.400 because a coaching job. I I just remembered Arnie the 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:19.520 one of the other fun stories about that time we 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:21.640 were doing radio in l A. You mentioned the Freedom 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.160 we were doing. Me and Dave. We're doing a midday 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.200 show from that same glass room, and we sat there 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.640 for the for the riot after the Lakers won that championship. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.640 We were we were in there and it was like 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.720 a day after the the Clippers had played the Lakers, 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:38.240 and the Clippers had scored like three points in a 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.800 quarter or two points in a ridiculous quarter, and then 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.120 it was so embarrassing. The team was terrible. You know, 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.640 I'm a Clipper house guy and I was then as well, 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.000 and and so Dave had this idea, so we gotta 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.480 you know, I want other Clippers to move back to 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.000 San Diego. So he had this brilliant idea, says, let's 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.760 put a petition together and we'll have our intern go 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.400 out and because our business people in downtown l A, 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.480 we'll have him signed the petition and we'll do a 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:05.320 bit out of it. So we send our intern out. Okay, 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:06.720 this is a great story on it. So we send 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.280 our intern out to get signatures from people who were 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:13.720 on lunch because we show and hand to guy all right. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:18.480 About an hour later, a steaming man, Andy Roser, who 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.800 was Donald Sterling's right hand man, comes running in. Our 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.800 intern had asked Andy Roser to sign the petition to 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.440 move the Clippers back to San Diego because they're an embarrassment. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.120 Oh my god, he was so pissed. He was so 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.200 angry are he he was spitting fire when he came 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.800 in there. He was firing brimstone. Oh my gosh. It 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:43.120 was a mess. By the way, I think now the 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.600 chance to kind of bring this up. Now, I know 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.400 people are listening for one story in one story only 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.600 kind of awkward that you haven't brought it up. Well, 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:54.920 I think we can talk about how you own the 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:59.480 eastern part of Vermont. If you want come to want 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.880 to know why you and I were in the hot 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:06.080 top with four topless women back in Indiana, they were 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.240 up to four topless women out. The number changes, but no, 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.720 fine whatever it was said, it was me you with 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:16.520 a mar Kenez so um all the time. Yeah, we 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:18.320 had we had different people in there, but we were 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.400 in Indianapolis on assignment, Arntie. We were big radio stars 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.960 on assignment at the NBA Finals for the Pacers. And 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.800 was that Reggie Miller's Pacers, right, I believe it's time 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.440 And they read it to from the David Letterman show. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.080 That's right. That was the big thing because the Letterman 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.520 would send Biff out to do his goofy interviews and 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.920 that was that was we read it. It wasn't that 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:39.800 we ran him at a bar, right, He was like 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.520 he was kind of depressed and he was drinking a 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.440 little bit and uh, but that was a lot of fun. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.320 So we were standing at the hotel there and we 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:51.239 somehow ended up I don't know how, yes, in a jacuzzi, 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.520 and as I remember the story, Arnie, there were a 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:58.040 couple of beautiful ladies there and they were pretty attractive, 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.400 and then they were kind end of uncomfortable when we 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.280 got in the hot tub. And then when you started talking, 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.159 they immediately got out. As I recall, first of all, 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.080 they were really uncomfortable when you took your shirt off. 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.320 I had my shirt off, and and everything was good 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.000 until that. I I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.760 I I've never seen someone exit a hot tub quicker 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.040 than that. As soon as as soon as they got 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.880 out of there, that oh my god, Frankenstein and his 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.440 son had gotten in into the into the hot tub. 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:32.280 I already I got. I found some photos a few 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.920 months ago. I should, I should, I should take a picture. 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.720 I have a photo of you. I think it's you, me, 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:42.639 Tony Bruno, and a bunch of the other guys. Uh No, 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.680 this was actually remember that, um we were broadcasting from 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.760 that bar in downtown Indianapolis. Remember it was like a 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:54.120 Hollywood theme bar thing if you yeah, yeah, they had 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.760 like they I forget what the name it was, but 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:00.879 that's where we did the show from. So we took up. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.560 We took a photo, and I should send that. It's hilarious. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.080 We look so he looks so different, Artie. Remember the 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:11.480 weather guy in Indianapolis spent his seven minutes of weather 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:17.040 just ripping me. Yes, yes, the local local. You know 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:20.320 you've arrived, Arnie when you are the top story on 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:24.520 the local news and they are bashing you and just 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.680 destroying you. Just smith the reens, Arnie. Oh my god, 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.960 that was hilarious. I forgot about that. That was it was. 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:32.719 It was a lot of good times out there, I think. 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:36.200 And we started off the show like this. Um never 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.359 in my wife did I think of all the things 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.760 I said on the air that the one thing that 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.000 people would always bring back up to me is a 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:50.480 Laker fan. I remember. I remember they brought me into 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:54.439 the office and I'm talking like some secret private office 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.879 that's only for the big wigs and people that are 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:00.240 about to get fired. And they brought me to the 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:05.280 office and it was like every person, um like every 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.720 boss one higher than the next. And and and one 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.280 guy says to me, you're you're going to have to 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:12.080 stop to say, You're gonna have to stop saying old 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:16.240 Laker fans. I said, I excuse me, They go stop 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.919 saying it is defensive. And I said, just tell me 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.040 which words offensive and I'll cut it out all Lakers 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.280 are fans, and he goes, you're going to cut it 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:28.480 out now, that's what he's going to do. And okay, 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:32.680 I said, I go, let's everybody calm down. Um, if 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:34.679 you brought me in, the fire me and just fire me. 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.440 But I'm not stopping a Laker fan. It's it's not 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.719 even anything. It's not even offensive. What's wrong with everybody here? 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:43.520 I don't know what's going on. So um, they kind 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:45.439 of left me alone after that, but with me, it 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.080 gets like a hundred guys about this whole be a 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:52.080 s Laker fans, Like, really, is that big of a deal? Unbelievable? Well, 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.480 remember the boss and the big Boss at that station. 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.000 Remember he would he would wear those purple suits and 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:59.840 those bright colored suits and stuff. He's walking around there 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.600 of the power suits and all that back and in 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:06.639 those days, remember one called Darth Vader. Oh that's right, 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.080 we had We had Darth Vader. And uh, you know, 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:10.840 I don't want to I'm not gonna name anybody, but 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:13.239 I remember what we were. Occasionally I would do the 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:15.639 morning show, we'd fill in on the morning show, and 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.080