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Speaker 1: Today on Special Report, Pete Hegsett's confirmation for a Secretary

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Speaker 1: of Defense creates some fireworks. We talk with Jeff Gumm,

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Speaker 1: who sat through today's confirmation.

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Speaker 2: Hearing, and hundreds of veterans rallied in DC today to

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Speaker 2: support the defense nominee. Rally organizer and former Navy Seal

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Speaker 2: William Brown joins us to discuss.

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Speaker 3: And there was a clear shift in the media landscape

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Speaker 3: and that could change even more under a new Trump administration.

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Speaker 3: We break down what that could look like with media

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Speaker 3: mogul Steve Forbes. All of that and much more right

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Speaker 3: now on Special Report.

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Speaker 4: Well, welcome to this hour of Special Report.

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Speaker 3: I'm Bo Davidson, along with Michelle Bacchus, Emily Finn, and

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Speaker 3: Tara Dahl. It was a busy day on Capitol Hill today.

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Speaker 3: As nominee for Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth set through

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Speaker 3: his confirmation hearing. Hegseth faced questions about his past as

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Speaker 3: well as his views on women in the military. He

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Speaker 3: was flanked by Tennessee Senators Marsha Blackburn and Bill Haggerty

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Speaker 3: as he walked to his hearing as a measure of

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Speaker 3: solidarity from his home state In Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: In another stance of solidarity, veterans lined up as there

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Speaker 1: only as four in the morning to support Hegseth. Today,

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Speaker 1: we want to welcome in one of those veterans that

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Speaker 1: was there at four in the morning, former Navy sealed

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Speaker 1: Jeff Gum. Jeff, he was at the hearing all day today. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me. It was an early day,

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Speaker 5: but we do it over and over again to support Pete.

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Speaker 6: He's our guy.

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Speaker 1: So I want to ask from your perspective, why are

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Speaker 1: you supporting Pete.

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Speaker 5: So I've known Pete personally since twenty nineteen. He's been

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Speaker 5: my swim buddy multiple times doing the Hudson Seal Swim.

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Speaker 5: He's came out and supported us, and I've seen firsthand

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Speaker 5: what a great person he is. He's a family man,

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Speaker 5: he's a leader.

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Speaker 6: He's brave.

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Speaker 5: He jumped into the huts and river and swam three

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Speaker 5: and a half bials with Navy seals without having swamed

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Speaker 5: much with Finn's before. And he's a leader. He's gone

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Speaker 5: over and fought in Iraq, he's fought in Afghanistan. He's

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Speaker 5: seen war firsthand. He wasn't sending troops out to war

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Speaker 5: without having the same types of consequences. He's had the

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Speaker 5: bullets fly over his head, He's had to put tourniquits

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Speaker 5: on his brothers. He knows how serious this is and

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Speaker 5: he's our guy.

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Speaker 4: And Jeff, what was the mood like inside of the hearing?

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Speaker 3: You know, I've been seeing stuff on social media all

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Speaker 3: day of female senators grilling him, asking about some of

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Speaker 3: the things that he's done in his past and about

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Speaker 3: women's ability to serve in the military.

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Speaker 4: What was the mood like? What would as you surveyed

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Speaker 4: the area.

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Speaker 5: It was combative from one side, but from the other

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Speaker 5: it was really powerful. We had over one hundred and

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Speaker 5: twenty Special Ops veterans inside the hearing there with Pete

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Speaker 5: supporting him because he's supported us and he's the guy.

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Speaker 5: And then we had another two hundred plus veterans and

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Speaker 5: patriots who were out supporting him as well for the

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Speaker 1: Capitol police carried out multiple protesters during this hearing that

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Speaker 1: was caught on video. In your own words, why don't

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Speaker 7: And what exactly happened inside of that hearing?

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Speaker 6: So it was.

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Speaker 5: Only I would say, maybe five individuals and they were

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Speaker 5: more against the Warren Gaza. One of my friends, Mitche Aguiar,

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Speaker 5: They didn't want to sit through and listen to what

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Speaker 5: and then literally get carried out. The Capitol police were

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Speaker 5: and then they were all gone, and it was peaceful

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Speaker 3: Well, Jeff, you O Peint has been getting grilled over

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Speaker 4: How do you think he handled those questions?

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Speaker 3: And do you think that that affects his chances of

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it affects it at all. He's made mistakes,

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Speaker 5: and he has a beautiful family, seven children. He's invested

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Speaker 5: They have they're great, they're great together, and he's moved

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Speaker 5: our military. We need someone who's going to bring back lethality,

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Speaker 5: not spend twenty years fighting a war because handcuffed and

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Speaker 5: just trying to put in DEI focus on so many

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Speaker 5: things that aren't important. Trying to allow transgenders in the

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Speaker 5: and not bring any benefit to our military. That's what

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Speaker 5: the other side wants to focus on. They want to

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Speaker 5: all they talked about the entire time was women, women

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Speaker 5: they want to put women into Navy seal training where

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Speaker 5: it's just going to break them and destroy them. There's

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Speaker 5: not women in the NFL there's not women in the NBA.

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Speaker 5: It's we are very different. We can embrace our differences.

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Speaker 5: Women do an amazing role in our military, supporting, supporting

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Speaker 5: on winning wars, not just making everyone happy. If you're

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Speaker 5: There's certain standards that are there.

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Speaker 7: Jeff, thanks so much for being with us today. Go

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Speaker 7: get some sleep.

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Speaker 1: You were up at four am out there supporting peteg Sat.

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Speaker 7: Thanks so much for being with us.

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Speaker 4: Have a great one guys, of course, thanks Jeff.

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Speaker 3: And now we turn to the wildfires in California, which

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Speaker 3: continue to rage as Californians have to wonder why their

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Speaker 3: leadership in the city and state have failed them. Coupled

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Speaker 3: with this is the issue of disaster insurance companies canceling

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Speaker 3: many policies in Los Angeles prior to the fires, and

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Speaker 3: how those affected can maximize their existing policies that they have.

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Speaker 3: Here to discuss this specific problem is Mike Nedder, who

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Speaker 4: Mike, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 8: The pleasure to be here today. Thank you for covering this.

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Speaker 8: It's a pretty important issue.

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Speaker 4: It is, and I know it's your nextpert.

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Speaker 8: Go ahead, yes, Ike, Well, my house burned in two

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Speaker 8: thousand and seven. And for everybody out there, it's fascinating

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Speaker 8: to me watching the opening of your show because most

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Speaker 9: Take place on TV or video.

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Speaker 8: And when you're hit by a fire, when you're a part,

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Speaker 8: you become part of You're drawn.

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Speaker 9: Into the scene instantaneously.

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Speaker 8: And We've spent a lot of time and I'm a

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Speaker 8: political commentator and I'm on KABC, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 8: But I want to speak as someone who's house burned

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Speaker 8: to talk about some facts today that we need to

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Speaker 8: get across to the people that have actually suffered this

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Speaker 8: kind of tragedy and been drawn into the movie.

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Speaker 3: If you don't mind, and please share with those those

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Speaker 3: share with us those facts. I mean, you have some

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Speaker 3: tips on how people can maximize their insurance claims, but

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Speaker 3: before we get to that, what about the claims that

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Speaker 3: insurance companies that they.

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Speaker 4: Dropped prior to these fires. Happening that happened to some people,

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Speaker 4: did it not absolutely?

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Speaker 9: And it's one hundred percent true.

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Speaker 8: And it's a big crisis in California, Florida and across

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Speaker 8: the country where you have a problem where insurance has

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Speaker 8: become too expensive. It's poorly managed by the state of California,

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Speaker 8: who we have an alleged elect insurance commissioner, and many

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Speaker 8: people can't afford it to drop it. But you know,

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Speaker 8: part of the challenge we have is we're spending a

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Speaker 8: lot of time in the media on that ten percent

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Speaker 8: who don't have insurance or have been dropped, and God

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Speaker 9: But the average person, not the movie.

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Speaker 8: Star, the one and alta demons that live in Pasadena

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Speaker 8: just live and work at Pacific Palisades. That's nine to

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Speaker 8: ten who do have insurance, and we need to pass

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Speaker 8: along some information to them because the government isn't doing

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Speaker 8: good infrastructures we like to call it. So when that

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Speaker 8: really want to get a cross in my message today.

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Speaker 1: Well for those who did have insurance, and of course

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Speaker 8: Well, the first thing they have to be aware of

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Speaker 9: Put all that down for a second.

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Speaker 8: You need a place to live, and you need to

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Speaker 8: understand that your major coverage, it's your dwelling coverage. There's

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Speaker 8: another coverage called additional living expense, and that's the first

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Speaker 8: thing you call your insurance company about. That average is

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Speaker 8: about twenty to thirty percent of your top line of

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Speaker 8: hundred thousand dollars. That's like an instantaneous bank and I'm

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Speaker 8: You immediately you could call your insurance company and get

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Speaker 8: five to ten thousand dollars check if you need to stay.

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Speaker 8: And you're hearing me correctly. At the rich Carlton for

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Speaker 8: two weeks. The insurance company will pay for that out

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Speaker 8: of that portion of the policy. And you need to

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Speaker 8: that you paid in and wait, there's a lot more

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Speaker 8: every single meal that you have why displaced, even if

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Speaker 8: your house is in burned but damaged. In fact, even

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Speaker 8: if you were displaced and had to move because you

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Speaker 8: were under evacuation threat is covered by that. And people

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Speaker 8: forget that when your house burns or displaced, you still

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Speaker 8: owe the mortgage.

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Speaker 9: And so change the way that you're thinking.

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Speaker 8: Your mortgage might be four thousand a month, and you're

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Speaker 8: going to go out and look and go, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 8: be eight thousand a month. That's okay, don't pay for it,

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Speaker 9: Will pay for it.

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Speaker 8: When you rent this space, which you could rent for

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Mike. That's that's great. Tips.

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Speaker 4: Mike. We really appreciate you, and thanks for your time today.

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Speaker 7: Thanks Mike, appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Thank thanks Mike well.

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Speaker 7: Welcome back to Special Reports.

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Speaker 2: The Supreme Court is weighing a decision to uphold a

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Speaker 2: More than one hundred and seventy million Americans use TikTok

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Speaker 3: One content creator brought together some big name influencers last

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Speaker 10: Thank you so much for having me on.

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Speaker 10: It was amazing. We had almost two hundred thousand guests

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Speaker 2: Well, wow, that is super super impressive. I understand that

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Speaker 2: part two is coming up tomorrow night as well. Correct,

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Speaker 7: I hope our viewers do.

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Speaker 2: To Tiffany, so you were there in DC at the

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Speaker 4: What do you think is going to happen.

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Speaker 10: I think that a lot of the mainstream media headlines

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Speaker 3: And so, you know, national security tiffany has been the

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Speaker 3: main concern with TikTok because it's parent company, byte Dance,

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Speaker 4: Do you believe that that's.

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Speaker 3: A valid concern that the CCP works in tandem with

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Speaker 11: I do not.

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Speaker 10: I don't believe that for a number of reasons, but primarily,

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Speaker 10: a dangerous place to be, President Biden, Vice President Harris,

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Speaker 2: I think that's a really good point, Tiffany, Well, what

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Speaker 2: If it's not national security, then what is it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we've seen the parties kind of flip flop on all

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Speaker 2: now he's the one that's for banning it. So what

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Speaker 2: do you think is really motivating all of this? Is

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Speaker 2: it just to manipulate the way that people think.

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Speaker 10: I think it's more than that.

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Speaker 9: Actually.

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Speaker 10: First of all, when President Trump wanted to ban it,

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Speaker 10: originally it was about data security, and TikTok has invested

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 10: What I do believe is that Meta and Alphabet have

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Speaker 6: And as a result, what.

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Speaker 10: We've seen are senators and representatives that helped draft this

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Speaker 3: Tiffany, what would be your next move, hypothetically speaking, if

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Speaker 3: TikTok is ultimately banned because we don't know exactly what

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Speaker 3: Scotus is going to do. But should they actually if

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Speaker 3: to a different platform. I've been hearing about another Chinese

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Speaker 4: Would you jump there, do you think? Or would you

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Speaker 10: I want to be very clear, there is no other

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Speaker 10: which is what my platform does the way that TikTok does.

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Speaker 10: Every other app is paid a play which pits small

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Speaker 10: no interest in going anywhere because I believe that President

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Speaker 10: Trump meant it when he filed his Amiicrist brief and

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Speaker 10: amichis Brief was putting his money where his mouth was.

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Speaker 4: So what I think he's going to deliver.

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Speaker 3: What one person I did want to hear from was

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Speaker 3: a business owner like yourself. Explain to me that last

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Speaker 10: So when you look at Meta and Google, ninety nine

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Speaker 10: So TikTok is created an environment where small businesses thrive.

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Speaker 10: It's costing Alphabet, it's costing Meta and the way they're

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Speaker 2: You know, Tiffany, we only have about a minute left

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Speaker 10: The way he's pandering to the incoming administration, after the

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Speaker 10: small businesses for more than a decade. I'm sorry, but

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Speaker 10: we're not buying the rebrand. There's a reason red Note

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Speaker 4: Let's see, we are not buying it and.

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Speaker 6: We're not going there.

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Speaker 3: It's quite the about face that Zuckerberg is doing to

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Speaker 3: save face. And Tiffany, I really appreciate you you presenting

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Speaker 3: this from a small business perspective. I don't think a

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Speaker 3: hearing that argument. So thank you Tiffany for explaining it

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Speaker 3: to our audience and to me.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 11: the terms of the deal will be implemented in three phases.

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Speaker 11: Phase one is set to last forty two days, during

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Speaker 11: which thirty three hostages will be released, The IDF will

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Speaker 11: begin a gradual withdrawal from Gaza, and Israel will release

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Speaker 11: one thousand Palestinian prisoners, including two hundred serving life sentences.

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Speaker 11: So stay tuned for more updates as this story develops,

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Speaker 11: and we will continue to monitor the hostage release. But

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Speaker 11: let's now go to the Senate confirmation hearing for Trump's

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Speaker 11: Defense Secretary nominee Pete Heggs. Here is a clip from earlier.

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Speaker 12: Today, restrictive rules of engagement that these men and women

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Speaker 12: behind me understand they've lived with on the battlefield, which

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Speaker 12: has made it more difficult to defeat our enemies in

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Speaker 12: many of the cases you're talking about. In particular, Sir,

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Speaker 12: there was evidence withheld there was proscatorial misconduct. And as

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Speaker 12: someone who looks case by case and defaults to the warfighter,

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Speaker 12: to the men and women with dust on their boots,

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Speaker 12: not the second guessers and air conditioned offices in Washington,

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Speaker 12: d C. I look at case by case and was

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Speaker 12: proud to work with President Trump to understand those cases

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Speaker 12: and ensure that our warriors are always looked out.

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Speaker 9: For those cases are dreudicated.

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Speaker 6: Well, by the way, would you explain what a jag

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Speaker 6: off is?

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Speaker 12: I don't think I need to, sir.

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Speaker 4: Why not?

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Speaker 12: Because the men and women are.

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Speaker 7: Watch o your discussion.

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Speaker 11: Let's bring in former Navy seal Robert Sweetman. Robert, you

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Speaker 11: were there today in DC at the information hearing and

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Speaker 11: you helped to organize a rally for HEGSATH where hundreds

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Speaker 11: of veterans came out to DC to show their support.

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Speaker 11: So can you tell us about the hearing and tell

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Speaker 11: us why you helped to organize this rally today?

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Speaker 6: That's right. Well, Bill and I know each other from

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Speaker 6: the Seal Swim in New York City, and I've helped

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Speaker 6: him out there and I'm going to help him out

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Speaker 6: again here. So we brought the organization six Q Romeo

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Speaker 6: in to support getting all of these Navy seals out

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Speaker 6: to DC. Now they come from all over the country.

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Speaker 6: We met here last night. We did a press conference yesterday,

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Speaker 6: and we had two groups. One group was at the

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Speaker 6: Vietnam Memorial where they marched with flags that you can

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Speaker 6: see in the backdrop there all the way to the

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Speaker 6: Capitol Building, peacefully, mostly silently. They had some speeches, very

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Speaker 6: memorable speeches, and then I led another group into the

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Speaker 6: Capitol Building. Now listen, we went out there at four

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Speaker 6: o'clock in the morning. We were freezing, but we had

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Speaker 6: the dedicated picked it up early to do this. We

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Speaker 6: entered into the Senate Building, we had some hecklers that

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Speaker 6: were immediately taking out My hats off to the Capitol

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Speaker 6: police that did a great job. But overall I felt

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Speaker 6: like it went really well. Pete Hegseth represented us as

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Speaker 6: the war fighters exactly as I would have hoped he would.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and I actually worked with Pete for Vets for Freedom,

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Speaker 11: which came up a lot today during the hearing. And

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Speaker 11: I can just say here on the record, I can

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Speaker 11: contest to his character and how things were grunnite bets

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Speaker 11: for freedom, and I know that they honored and everybody

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Speaker 11: there honored the money that was given to them from

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Speaker 11: public people, people individual donations that were given to support

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Speaker 11: those veterans. And I'll tell you that was one of

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Speaker 11: the best jobs that I've ever had to work with

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Speaker 11: some of the greatest men and women that wore the

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Speaker 11: uniform that served our nation. And I can just contest

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Speaker 11: go on the record right here and I'll put my

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Speaker 11: word in for his character as well. But I just

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Speaker 11: want to ask you why was it so important for

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Speaker 11: people to come out with VET, to come out and

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Speaker 11: show their support. There is a lot of questions today

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Speaker 11: on really changing the military, raising up the recruitment numbers,

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Speaker 11: getting DEI out of the military. So do you think

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Speaker 11: Pete is the man to do the job, and why

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Speaker 11: do you think that? And how is he going to

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Speaker 11: change our military for the better?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, he's the right guy, and he brought up some

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Speaker 6: really good points. And I would further that by saying,

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Speaker 6: it's not just DEI. Look at the border. The Pentagon

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Speaker 6: did nothing to step in with the border crisis. Border

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Speaker 6: left wide open. We have Afghanistan where we withdrew left

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Speaker 6: like a trillion dollars in military equipment and guess who

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Speaker 6: got that Taliman. Guess what they did with it. They

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Speaker 6: took out their enemies, which are the good people of

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Speaker 6: afghan that were helping we destroyed our relationships out there.

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Speaker 6: And if that wasn't enough, don't forget eight thousand service

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Speaker 6: members lost their careers because of the forced gab in

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Speaker 6: the military. So not only do we need something different,

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Speaker 6: we have to change what's going on, but we need

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Speaker 6: somebody we can get behind with experience and vision. Vision

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Speaker 6: might be the most important thing, right, We got to

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Speaker 6: have somebody there that understands ab the warfighter and somebody

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Speaker 6: we can all as war fighters get behind.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and what do you think for one, A lot

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Speaker 11: of the senators, you know, they brought up the DEI,

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Speaker 11: but a lot of them showed just how much we

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Speaker 11: need to change and reform the military as far as

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Speaker 11: women as well. And I think Pete did such a

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Speaker 11: good job, you know, Senator Warren and some of the

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Speaker 11: female senators. The Democrats really tried to hit him on

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Speaker 11: his positions about women serving in the military. But again,

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Speaker 11: as a woman serving, you know, I met with Pete

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Speaker 11: and I've also served in Afghanistan. I've served in Iraq

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Speaker 11: and in Afghanistan, I was with the female engagement teams.

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Speaker 11: I've seen firsthand how those female engagement teams work. And

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Speaker 11: Pete brought that up. But can you just kind of

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Speaker 11: clarify the difference in how the Democrats are using Pete's

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Speaker 11: comments on women and what he really means about women

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Speaker 11: serving And he was very very articulate today and what

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Speaker 11: he meant about how we support its women. And there

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Speaker 11: is a lot of women I saw that were in

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Speaker 11: DC at the rally, veterans that support him as the

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Speaker 11: Defense secretary.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's absolutely right. Lots of women. Lots of female

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Speaker 6: veterans as well as active duty components showed up today

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Speaker 6: and last night. And the message is clear that we

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Speaker 6: obviously want women in the military. But the question is

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Speaker 6: are we changing the standards? Because as a native deal

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Speaker 6: I can tell you right now, if we change the standards,

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Speaker 6: that's not good. We need to be the tip of

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Speaker 6: the spear, and the only way to do that is

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Speaker 6: to maintain the standards, make sure that it's just as

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Speaker 6: difficult as it was yesterday. Otherwise we're going to have

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Speaker 6: less of a product. So what I say to that

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Speaker 6: is that as long as a woman can keep, you know,

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Speaker 6: can meet the standards, they can have any job that

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Speaker 6: they want. And I think Pete agrees with that. And

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Speaker 6: also I would say that women are better at certain

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Speaker 6: jobs better than I could do at different jobs. We

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Speaker 6: all have our own talents, so based on a meritocracy,

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Speaker 6: we find out what those talents are and people qualify up.

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Speaker 6: They're not given roles because of some initiative in the

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Speaker 6: air conditioned office. If they can, if they can make it,

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Speaker 6: then it's all theirs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, And what were just some of the highlights today

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Speaker 11: that you really took away from the hearing?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, I felt like, you know, trying to

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Speaker 6: be completely unbiased here. I felt like the left side

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Speaker 6: really just didn't have anything substantive to bring up. It

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Speaker 6: was more of a smear campaign. It was more of

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Speaker 6: talking points that they thought that they could trigger mister

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Speaker 6: hag Seth with, and he didn't fall for it. He

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Speaker 6: immediately responded with clever and smart responses to kind of

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Speaker 6: sidestep some of the slander. I felt like some of

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Speaker 6: it was frankly slander. Meanwhile, it was very easy for

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Speaker 6: the right side to come in and ask questions because

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Speaker 6: he's a solid candidate. I mean, I think the report

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Speaker 6: just came out that his military record is exemplary. He's

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Speaker 6: done very good combat. Everybody who's served under him, including

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Speaker 6: the dozens of people that were with us today in

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Speaker 6: the Senate served with Pete. We're there to support him.

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Speaker 6: They love him, they know what type of person he is,

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Speaker 6: and that's why we support him.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: And I know just from my own experience too, just

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Speaker 11: knowing Pete, and he's really given a voice to the veterans.

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Speaker 11: He has recognized their service and he has honored them.

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Speaker 11: I know during Vets for our Freedom, we did a

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Speaker 11: massive bus tour across the nation and it was an

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Speaker 11: opportunity for veterans to speak to meet with Americans and

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Speaker 11: it was really a rally call, I think, to mobilize

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Speaker 11: people to support our military again. But thank you so

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Speaker 11: much for your service and thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 6: Thank you well.

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Speaker 11: Coming up later in the show, we speak with media

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Speaker 11: Steve Forbes about the shift in the media landscape. We'll

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Speaker 11: be back in a moment.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Special Report.

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Speaker 3: Tax time is just around the corner and all of

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, Cameron Kinsei, Hi, thank you for

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Speaker 2: President Trump posted about this on truth Social today.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean it's interesting the Department of Government Efficiencies

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Speaker 13: don't have to do that yourself, and we advocate for

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Speaker 13: a fair resolution. If unjust penalties are imposed, we fight

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Speaker 13: on your behalf through the appeals, just to ensure the

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Speaker 13: best possible outcome for yourself.

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Speaker 3: So, Cameron, I'm kind of a DIY kind of guy.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why, but just like I like doing

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Speaker 3: things myself, maybe just because my dad always taught me,

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Speaker 3: don't let someone else do for you what you can

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Speaker 3: do yourself. But in a case like this, what are

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Speaker 3: the benefits from working with tax Network USA and a

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Speaker 3: professional tex Network USA compared to battling it on my own?

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Speaker 4: Because I think I can do.

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Speaker 13: It right, I mean, taking on the IRS alone is

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Speaker 13: risky within itself, I mean, especially with their increased enforcement

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Speaker 13: power under this administration. We've seen the eighty seven thousand

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Speaker 13: IRS agents be brought on, the eighty billion dollar budget

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Speaker 13: increase for the IRS. So and they just requested more

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Speaker 13: money as well, if you can believe it. So tax

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Speaker 13: really professionals understand the complexities of the tax code. We

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Speaker 13: can secure better outcomes, way better outcomes than going into

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Speaker 13: it alone. And so at tax Network USA, we basically

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Speaker 13: just advocate for you every single step of the way.

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Speaker 13: We are all on the same side here. We are

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Speaker 13: fighting against a government overreach and we're protecting your finances

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Speaker 13: so you can focus on your future and your family

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Speaker 13: without having the burden of focusing on the irs.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So, if our viewers are feeling not up to

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Speaker 2: the challenge for a DIY, they don't want to do

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Speaker 2: it themselves, how can they get started with Tax Network USA?

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Speaker 2: If they need help with their taxes.

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Speaker 13: Right, you can just go to TNUSA dot com to

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Speaker 13: learn more, or if you want to talk to someone directly,

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Speaker 13: you can go to one eight hundred nine zero five

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Speaker 13: representatives and we will take care of you.

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Speaker 3: And Cameron, we also want to ask you a little unrelated,

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Speaker 3: but you voiced your support for Pete Heg Sath You've

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Speaker 3: posted on social media and support of him for the

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Speaker 3: United States Defense Secretary. Tell us about that and why

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Speaker 3: you vocalize your support for Pete Absolutely.

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Speaker 13: So, I am the new executive director of Confirmed forty seven,

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Speaker 13: and we are fighting against these smear campaigns that we

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Speaker 13: have seen against President Trump's nominees. I worked in the

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Speaker 13: forty fifth administration for President Donald Trump. I know this

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Speaker 13: was a sound pick. Pete Hegseth is a great man.

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Speaker 13: He's a decorated combat veteran. He's supported by one hundred

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Speaker 13: generals and admirals across the United States. There has been

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Speaker 13: more support for Pete Hegseth than we have seen sit

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Speaker 13: in that room for any other person that was nominated

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Speaker 13: for Secretary of Defense in years. So I think he's admirable.

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Speaker 13: I love that he's an unconventional person, just like President

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Speaker 13: Trump was when he came down the escalator in twenty

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Speaker 13: fifteen and announced his candidacy. He represents the American people,

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Speaker 13: he represents the war fighter, and he's exactly who we

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Speaker 13: need in the Pentagon right now.

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Speaker 2: What were the moments from the confirmation hearings that really

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Speaker 2: stood out to you today? I mean, we saw a

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Speaker 2: very divided Senate. There was Democrats that had meltdowns that

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Speaker 2: were really criticizing him. And Republicans that came to his defense.

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Speaker 7: What moment stood out to you the most.

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Speaker 13: I just think that we saw everyone that had pushback

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Speaker 13: had no legitimate claims. They were all hypothetical situations that

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Speaker 13: they were trying to rule out against Pete. Except instead

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Speaker 13: of talking about the real issues that face this country.

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Speaker 13: We have had the lowest military recruitment of all time

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Speaker 13: under the Biden Harris administration. Why didn't we talk about

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Speaker 13: that and how we are going to incentivize people to

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Speaker 13: join our military, talking about the standards. Instead of hyper

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Speaker 13: fixating on if women should serve in combat, how about

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Speaker 13: we talk about the standards and raising the standards so

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Speaker 13: we have a robust military that can fight wars and

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Speaker 13: who have uh, you know, sound weaponry and things of

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Speaker 13: that nature, modernizing our military. So I think those were

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Speaker 13: some key moments. I think also just in the heat

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Speaker 13: of it, he maintained his composure. We saw a lot

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Speaker 13: of senators lose their mind against Pete in that hearing

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Speaker 13: for hours on end, and he maintained his composure. He

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Speaker 13: had kuth, he had tacked, he had maturity, and we

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Speaker 13: saw a lot of senators actually lack that. So I

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Speaker 13: do think that he's the leader that we need right now.

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Speaker 4: And Ken, we got about thirty seconds left.

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Speaker 3: But you know, a lot of focus, your focus primarily

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Speaker 3: is on the internal Revenue Service, But what about the

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Speaker 3: external revenue service that Trump has been talking about to

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Speaker 3: collect these tarists?

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Speaker 4: What are your thoughts in thirty seconds?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I think it's very interesting.

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Speaker 13: I think it's exactly what we need to hold people

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Speaker 13: accountable right now. I think that we're going to see

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Speaker 13: a lot of these policies continue to roll out. I

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Speaker 13: know that we also saw one hundred executive orders that

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Speaker 13: he will be signing his first day in office. So

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Speaker 13: I think this is just one of many announcements that

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Speaker 13: he has that is going to serve in the best

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Speaker 13: interests of the American people that voted for him on

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Speaker 13: November fifth.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Cameron, Yeah, that was pretty exciting to see him

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Speaker 2: talk about the external Revenue Service today getting other countries

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Speaker 2: to pay their fair share.

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Speaker 7: We'd love to see it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Cameron.

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Speaker 13: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Now, there is a clear shift in the media landscape,

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Speaker 2: and that could change even more under new Trump administration.

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Speaker 2: We break down what that could look like with media

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Speaker 2: moguls Steve Forbes, Oh you don't want to miss this.

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Speaker 7: We'll be back in just a moment. Welcome back to

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Speaker 7: Special Report.

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Speaker 1: There is a clear shift in the media landscape. Mainstream

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Speaker 1: news networks are seeing dips and ratings, while more and

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Speaker 1: more people are shifting towards online content.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, Michelle.

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Speaker 3: According to Pew Research in twenty twenty four, just twenty

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Speaker 3: six percent of US adults say they often or sometimes

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Speaker 3: get news in print. That's the lowest number our surveys

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Speaker 3: have recorded. So as X thrives in Americans turn to

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Speaker 3: podcasts for information, what is the next for the media

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Speaker 3: business and.

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Speaker 1: More importantly, how will the relationship between media and government

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Speaker 1: change moving forward, especially under a new administration. Well, to

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Speaker 1: get more insight, let's welcome in Steve Forbes' chairman of

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Speaker 1: Forbes Media.

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Speaker 7: Steve, thanks so much for being with us today.

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Speaker 6: Good to be with you. Thank you of course.

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Speaker 1: Well, Forbes is a media empire started by your grandfather.

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Speaker 1: I want to first ask how did it turn into

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Speaker 1: the massive empire that it is today.

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Speaker 14: Well, the key thing is that there was a great guru,

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Speaker 14: management guru called Peter Drucker, whose books are still read

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Speaker 14: in some business schools today and he said, every organization

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Speaker 14: should ask itself, whether it's in business or academia or whatever,

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Speaker 14: what is your purpose? What is it that you are

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Speaker 14: trying to do. And that's critical when you get what

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Speaker 14: happened to the print business with the rise of the internet,

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Speaker 14: absolutely obliterated the traditional model that had been around since

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Speaker 14: really the eighteen forties. And so in terms of moving ahead,

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Speaker 14: you have to focus on what are you trying to

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Speaker 14: achieve and not get caught up on the fact that

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Speaker 14: the way you achieve it may substantially change. So from

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Speaker 14: the very beginning, back in the nineteen nineties, we separated

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Speaker 14: Forbes dot Com from Forbes Magazine so one wouldn't dominate

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Speaker 14: the other. We did content outside of the magazine. Today

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Speaker 14: we have over two thousand contract of contributors to Forbes

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Speaker 14: dot com. We provide a lot of other online services.

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Speaker 14: So the key thing is serving people. We I think

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Speaker 14: a symbol of aspiration, symbol of success, and our iconic lists,

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Speaker 14: whether it's our Rich List or thirty under thirty and

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Speaker 14: twenty different categories, thirty sensational young people each year we

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Speaker 14: reveal them in this country and around the world, fifty

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Speaker 14: over fifty as Jogi Bara said, its life is not

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Speaker 14: it ain't over till it's over. It is true of sports,

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Speaker 14: but it's true in life itself. So the key thing

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Speaker 14: is is to us stay focused on making sure you

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Speaker 14: don't become a commodity. The one thing about the Internet

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Speaker 14: is it commoditizes things ruthlessly. You better have something real

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Speaker 14: for people and trustworthy information and then you can survive

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Speaker 14: and thrive.

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Speaker 3: Right Well, Steve, I personally love the Forbes cover with

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen. I think I prop for our current Yeah, well,

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Speaker 3: you know, Steve. Mark Zuckerberg just went on Joe Rogan

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Speaker 3: and he said that he was put in a tough

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Speaker 3: position during the COVID nineteen pandemic, admitting that the Biden

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Speaker 3: administration forced censorship. Looking back, did the Biden administration have

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Speaker 3: influence over your publications? And if not, did you feel

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Speaker 3: that you provided transparency during that time?

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Speaker 14: We had hear from them from time to time when

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Speaker 14: we my or mine might say something that they didn't

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Speaker 14: approve of, But we didn't have the kind of pressure

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Speaker 14: that Zuckerberg would have or others would have, and not pressure,

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Speaker 14: but the kind of relationship precisely because they were on

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Speaker 14: In essence, people are going on them twenty four hours

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Speaker 14: a day or all sorts of information, all sorts of services.

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Speaker 14: So that's where most of the advertising is, and that's

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Speaker 14: why you've got the kind of thing that happened. And

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Speaker 14: I think one of the great things among many that

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Speaker 14: Elon Musk did was when he took over X and

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Speaker 14: fully reveal what was actually happening. He also showed a

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Speaker 14: lot of these organizations were overstaffed. He fired what eighty

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Speaker 14: percent of the people, and the services as as strong

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Speaker 14: as it's ever been, excellaw as he calls it. And

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Speaker 14: so I look forward to what he's going to be

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Speaker 14: doing formally on January twentieth. He's already doing it now

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Speaker 14: with the Ramaswami bat Ramaswami, and so I think you're

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Speaker 14: going to see some overtime real changes in pruning out

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Speaker 14: the incredible waste in government. But in terms of media,

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Speaker 14: people today can go anywhere anytime. I remember there's just

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Speaker 14: to relate something amusing about fifteen years ago, one of

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Speaker 14: the TV shows, I think was The Daily Show went

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Speaker 14: to the New York Times and talked to this as well,

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Speaker 14: before the internet dominated everything, and he took out a

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Speaker 14: copy of the newspaper, The New York Times, and as

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Speaker 14: the editor he said, why do you have stale news?

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Speaker 14: And the editor looked at him perplexed. He said, what

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Speaker 14: do you mean news? He said, we have today's date,

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Speaker 14: but yesterday's news is this piece of paper? Why do

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Speaker 14: you pedal staleton news? And the guy was absolutely puzzled

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Speaker 14: by it. But today we wonder what was the puzzlement.

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Speaker 14: People want things instantly, and again I think we're still

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Speaker 14: in the midst of grappling with what is truthful and

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Speaker 14: what isn't and that's going to still be playing out.

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Speaker 14: But the fact that you can hit back quickly I

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Speaker 14: think is absolutely a crucial And now that Mark Zuckerberg

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Speaker 14: has underscored what Elon Musk revealed to us a couple

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Speaker 14: of years ago, I think will be a good antidote

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Speaker 14: in the future when an administration or government officials try

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Speaker 14: to pressure social media to say, don't do this, this

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Speaker 14: is misinformation. Who determines the definition of misinformation?

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of Steve, as we move into a new

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Speaker 1: generation of media, I do want to ask, what do

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Speaker 1: you anticipate the future of media?

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Speaker 7: Looking like.

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Speaker 14: I think you're going to see more of the same

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Speaker 14: year you're going to see new players rise up and

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Speaker 14: with the AI creating absolutely new industries. For example, just

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Speaker 14: going back in the past, the invention of the transistor,

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Speaker 14: which really began all of this back in the late

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Speaker 14: nineteen forties. People at the time the transition transistor would

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Speaker 14: be used for telephone, so it was invented by Bell

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Speaker 14: Labs and military uses. But it took a company like

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Speaker 14: Sony out of Japan to a pioneer using transition transistors

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Speaker 14: or electronic thing consumer electronic market starting with the transistor radio,

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Speaker 14: which when I was growing up was a big deal.

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Speaker 14: You could carry it around portably, put it in your pocket.

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Speaker 14: So I think you're going to see a bunch of

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Speaker 14: new industries come up, and that's going to require new

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Speaker 14: kinds of media. So it's going to be in a

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Speaker 14: state of flux. You're not going to get a shakeout.

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Speaker 14: You'll get shakeout, but you're not going to see the

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Speaker 14: kind of rigidity that you saw in traditional industrial companies,

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Speaker 14: where we had hundreds of different automobile country companies in

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Speaker 14: this country. They shook down to about three and a

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Speaker 14: number of farm players, but you could almost counter them

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Speaker 14: on your fingers. The number of players you saw it

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Speaker 14: in big social media. I think you're going to find

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Speaker 14: numerous other sources, and people are quite willing. They're not

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Speaker 14: wedded to one thing. They're quite willing to try anything anytime.

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Speaker 14: So we live in an era if you're an entrepreneur,

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Speaker 14: we can eat well or sleep well, but not both.

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Speaker 4: Steve, I want to ask you this. You mentioned something

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Speaker 4: earlier about media companies must know their purpose. You knew

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Speaker 4: your purpose when you.

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Speaker 3: Think about the message and the messengers, and I'm specifically

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Speaker 3: talking about a lot of left wing media. So MSNBC

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Speaker 3: groups like that, did they lose both the message and

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Speaker 3: the messenger because it seems like their purpose was not

906
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Speaker 3: to inform and inspire, but actually to change someone's way

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Speaker 3: of thinking to theirs? Is that what you see and

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Speaker 3: you see that changing in media conglomerates in the next

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Speaker 3: four years.

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Speaker 14: I think the fact that the results, the decisive results

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Speaker 14: of the election, were critical, and I think what you

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Speaker 14: see unfolding now in things like CNN MSNBC in the

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Speaker 14: light they've decided several years ago they could thrive by

914
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Speaker 14: being the Andy Trump, thrive by trashing conservatives, going to

915
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Speaker 14: the far left. Some of the crazy things that we

916
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Speaker 14: saw in the world, and I think that you just

917
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Speaker 14: can't be You can be an advocate, but you can't

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Speaker 14: be a mass media if you're just going to be

919
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Speaker 14: a narrow advocate. And that's why I think you've seen

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Speaker 14: audience changes in some of these places. And also too,

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Speaker 14: it's why corporate executives are now contributing to Trump's inauguration.

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Speaker 14: They want to want one they want to know who

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Speaker 14: they can know to get inside the Trump administration. What

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Speaker 14: a change from eight years ago or four years ago,

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Speaker 14: And I think that's going to be very healthy. But

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Speaker 14: simply being again something simply being really just a mouthpiece

927
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Speaker 14: instead of critically looking at things. And you saw today

928
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Speaker 14: the Los Angeles Times owner saying it was a mistake

929
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Speaker 14: of the newspaper to endorse the current mayor bass of

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Speaker 14: a Los Angeles who's been an destructive disaster. And I

931
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Speaker 14: think you're going to see more of that. You're going

932
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Speaker 14: to have to earn the trust. So simply being a

933
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Speaker 14: mouthpiece for an ideology will get you so far. But

934
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Speaker 14: people have to think that what you're presenting is reliable

935
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Speaker 14: information that they can count on as fruitful and that

936
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Speaker 14: they can use it and making their own opinions are

937
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Speaker 14: coming to various decisions, and I think you're going to

938
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Speaker 14: see it with the Higgs confirmation hearings. He went in

939
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Speaker 14: there under severe attack, and I think one they underestimated

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Speaker 14: that he's been in media before, so he was going

941
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Speaker 14: to not be thrown back on his feet. And so

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Speaker 14: I think he has a chance to get nominated, whereas

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Speaker 14: in the traditional media world he would have been toasted

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Speaker 14: weeks ago.

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Speaker 7: Well, speaking of let's dive into that with about a

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Speaker 7: minute left here.

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Speaker 1: When you were running, you promoted a strong national defense,

948
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Speaker 1: and of course you had mentioned today was Pete hegsa's

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Speaker 1: confirmation hearing.

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Speaker 7: What are ultimately your thoughts?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that Pete is going to get through

952
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Speaker 1: without any more problems.

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Speaker 14: Unless they have some bombshells. I think he will. It's

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Speaker 14: going to be tight and close. But again, in the past,

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Speaker 14: if somebody came under attack, the media go to that

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Speaker 14: on fed it. So today some of them will try

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Speaker 14: to feed it, but there are you know, they come

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Speaker 14: to you, they come to others and they get a

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Speaker 14: full realistic picture of what unfolding. So I think that

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Speaker 14: he's got a chance to do it, and he's got

961
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Speaker 14: a huge job Ahead. But the fact of the matter

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Speaker 14: is the Pentagon problems have been around for years and

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Speaker 14: so it's not as if they say, well, he hasn't

964
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Speaker 14: had experience. For all these people who were supposedly so

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Speaker 14: well qualified before, look what they gave us today. So

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Speaker 14: I think you'll have this chance. The key thing for

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Speaker 14: him is to get around a strong team that can

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Speaker 14: help him navigate and start to make some real changes,

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Speaker 14: both in strategy and in procurement, which is a disaster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a big mestic clean up, doesn'ty Steve

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Speaker 3: sounds like he's got especially cleaning on the de Well,

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Speaker 3: thank you Steve so much for being on the show.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate it. You've got a podcast called What's Ahead.

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Speaker 3: Where can people find that.

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Speaker 14: They can find it on Forbes dot com. They can

976
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Speaker 14: find it online, whether it's YouTube and others, and so, Laurie,

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Speaker 14: thank you, Steve.

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Speaker 6: We appreciate you fine.

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Speaker 7: Thanks Steve so much.