1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: There's a quiet storm brewing from the Chris Westling podcast studio. 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: It's around the NFL. I'm Dan Hans's got heroes here. 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 3: I always do. 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler people should know well speaking of 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: Behind Blue Eyes with Belichick on our last show, Mark's 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: Got the Icy Blues. Sometimes there's still a storm that 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: can rage. But the nickname doesn't fit quite as well 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: as it did five, six, seven years ago. 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 3: It will continue to be your nickname. 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: On a level, Yeah, but the quiet storm is a 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: different chapter in the Mark Sessler life on a certain level. 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 4: I mean, I'd say it's it bubbles to the surface 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 4: less than it used to. And I acknowledge that I'd 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 4: tried to work on some things, and especially when we 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 4: have a special guest in studio, I try to keep 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 4: a lid on some of my own temper. 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: Not for me. 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: Wait wait, let me introduce Okay, sorry, a very special 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: guest in studio. 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: As answer. 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: What I mean, what do you think Patrick CLAYBN Ladies 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: and gentlemen, Pat what do you think about whether or 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: not we agree with you, or I agree with you, 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: or the outside world agrees with the unmomentum. What do 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: you feel about the idea of momentum and its existence 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: becoming a central tenant of your your public face in 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: a way? 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 5: I guess it's like, you know, Patrick has involved in 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 5: another dumb argument, this time with the planet. It happens 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 5: all the time in many aspects of my life. I'm 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 5: glad people are thinking about me at all, in any 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 5: you know, and so especially when it comes to this 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 5: where if I've caused anybody, whether they believe or don't 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 5: or whatever, to just think about you know, and the 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 5: way things work, Yeah, your own personal reality. 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: Have you ever had a moment, like in the middle 38 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 4: of the night where you've been like, oh, I do 39 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: believe in momentum. 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: No, how about this, and this is a little meta. 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: Have you ever thought about the idea your beliefs or 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: lack of belief in momentum has gained momentum within your 43 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: own life? That's a problem. No, I mean I believe 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: in cause and effect. 45 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 5: This thing that comes up, even when I don't bring 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 5: it up right like we're talking about it now, is 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 5: a result of people thinking. 48 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: And that's good, you know. 49 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 5: I And and really, if we want to go before 50 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 5: we get to that because I'll go this is I'll 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 5: lose track of everything. 52 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 3: I think the quiet storm is always brewing. 53 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 5: My issue is with the way that society might force 54 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 5: the storm to be quiet, and I don't want that. 55 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 5: I want the storm to be out. I want Mark 56 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 5: Sessler to be with that. Sessler twenty four hours a day, 57 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 5: thank you. I just need to get that. 58 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: I'll take that to heart. 59 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 4: I'm not sure that Dan and Greg need it twenty 60 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: four hours a day. 61 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 6: But I feel like literally the last time we were 62 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 6: in this podcast studio, or maybe it was Wednesday last 63 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 6: week we were, there was some poking of the bear 64 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 6: and this the eyes the storm was coming out just 65 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 6: last week. 66 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 3: Oh well, maybe it's still. 67 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like I. 68 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 4: Said, I think it kind of is like Nature's law 69 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: and America wasn't it gets little storms like November, December, 70 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 4: January right. 71 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: How the mock draft and let would also be stated 72 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 2: that the quiets the dissipation of the quiet storm or 73 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: of it moving out. To see, from my perspective, is 74 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: not me even saying Patrick that's a good or bad thing. 75 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: It's just more me being a Mark Sessler meteorologist and 76 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: being like, right now, it seems like the storm is 77 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: out to see is it permanently out? Could have come 78 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: back in as a what do they call it? The 79 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: high highest level hurricane and most we've got a category 80 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: if I cat five, Yeah. 81 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: I mean seven day weekly forecast. We don't know what's 82 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: after that week. 83 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: Where we stand on weather. By the way we on 84 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: the weathermen that we. 85 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Live in LA. I literally knew it. 86 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: Bothers me that anyone in La is ever looking at 87 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: the weather on any level. 88 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: We had. 89 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: We've got like eighty two weather ladies on all these 90 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 4: stations telling us what's going to have a lot. 91 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: Of weather we had, we had a run there. 92 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, dude, I'm just saying, I don't. 93 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: Oh, it's raining like the old seventy time raining. So 94 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: everyone's driving twenty five miles slower and acting like they've 95 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: never seen, you know, the elements. 96 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 5: To those of us who have logged a decade now 97 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 5: and are spoiled rotten, that was weather to us. 98 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: No like uh, in fairness, I lived on the East 99 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: Coast a long time. Give me a snow day. 100 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 6: It does not rain for four street days at any point, 101 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 6: like without stopping on the East Coast. 102 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: Some crazy things are happening. Crazy things are happening. 103 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: That's it. 104 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: That's there's been some storms, not all quiet momentum on 105 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: the weather scenario. 106 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: There things are changing. 107 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: See how it's all It's like a Seinfeld episode. Everything's 108 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: connected all right? Today is around the AFC in forty 109 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: eight minutes. Feels like we just did one of these 110 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: episodes he did almost just maybe speaks to a lack 111 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: of originality, but they are very effective in their goal, 112 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: which is and I get it. 113 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 6: We don't usually do a like late free agency prop. 114 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: I didn't think so that was an extra one. Yeah, 115 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: that's why it was a little bit on my radar. However, 116 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: I love these episodes and I know the listeners love 117 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: them because when you talk, for instance, we just did 118 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: our winners and losers, and we get a bunch of 119 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: teams in the mix, but you're gonna miss teams. We 120 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: will not miss a single team. We have missed a 121 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: team in the past one time. Yeah, apologies to the 122 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills fans of twenty eighteen or whatever. We promise 123 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: that will never happen again, and if it does, it 124 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: is the producer's fault. 125 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: I think that is. 126 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think put the blame elsewhere that type ability. 127 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 6: But this post draft one we may have done all 128 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 6: the way back to like twenty fourteen. 129 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: I think we've done this every time. 130 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: Just this one. 131 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, this one I think gets it's cleared. Eric, How 132 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: are you doing great? How was your wedding? 133 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: My wedding? 134 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean yeah, I didn't no good. It was 135 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: a wife's coworker, so I was really not that invested. 136 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: Had some beers, White's pregnant, didn't have to drive home. 137 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: This is this is a rough listen for them, Big 138 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: Big Funk. I don't think they're listening Big Funk exactly. 139 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: Bad beat, bad beat. 140 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: Big Funk did a nice job pinch hitting well ill, 141 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: which is never fun. 142 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: Didn't even tell us he was ill until the till 143 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: the end. 144 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: He will find a way to work it in though, 145 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: although there was there was before the show started. He 146 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: had a hot mic on while we were set up 147 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: remote and you could tell he was struggling and trying 148 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: to get things going. There's a lot of stuff to 149 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: do as a producer. And you can actually hear Big 150 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: Funk's inner monologue going like, oh. 151 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: Okay, I do this. 152 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he made it through. Yeah, it was a 153 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: flu game for him. I haven't seen him though since yes, 154 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: I did see him with our neighbors, so I didn 155 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: see him. He's alive, but yeah, he flu game. He 156 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: was definitely under the weather on Saturday. Okay, good, all right, 157 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: let's uh without further ado play. 158 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: Bund's have got it. 159 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: Out hosting Total Access though we check that out. 160 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: Oh hell, I will ditch them if it comes to it. Guys, 161 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: amitted to all the teams. If this is your first episode, 162 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: that's cool. So this is the show where we go 163 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: around an entire conference three minutes per team, three minutes exactly. 164 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: And I knew ETP wouldn't miss this show because this 165 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: is when he gets to take out a weapon and 166 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: literally shoot a man in the throat if he must 167 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: to get him to shut up after three minutes. That's 168 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: part of the rules right there. And I don't know 169 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: why Patrick ketch one of the gut there. He didn't 170 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: need it, didn't deserve it, desk pop what is it from? 171 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: Do not shoot anything into the ceilings here? The sky's 172 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: already falling here at NFL Media. All right, let's get 173 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: into it, starting with the Buffalo Bills and Mark Ceciler. 174 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 4: We're not skipping the Bills this time. The Bills a 175 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 4: lot of needs. Ten draft picks in total, added help 176 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: though at safety, defensive tackle, defensive end, cornerback, two new 177 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: offensive tackle, a running back, and a wide receiver, and 178 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: Keon Coleman, who dazzled in his pressler by announcing that 179 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: his coat was from Macy's. 180 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: Butffalo is attempting a soft rebuild. 181 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 4: From my pov called to reload if you'd like, while 182 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: hoping to remain one of the AFC's white hot treats. 183 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: I've talked for weeks months that I sense a darkness 184 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: filtering out of Western New York, a tightening vice, an 185 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 4: aura of internal pressure, outside doubts. This has been one 186 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: of the AFC's best stories over the past half decade. 187 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: Only the deeply cynical can't see something beautiful about the 188 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 4: existence of the Buffalo Bills. Yet I have a hunch 189 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 4: they'll find a way to crumble. Am I being too 190 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 4: tough on our beloved Bill? 191 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: Oh? Boy? 192 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 6: Yes, I pushed back against this whole idea that they 193 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 6: are rebuilding, reloading anything like that. What if I told 194 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 6: you they have as much continuity as almost any team 195 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 6: in the NFL. They have twenty I counted up somewhere 196 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 6: between nineteen and twenty one starters on their team that 197 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 6: were with the Bills last year. It's not an old roster. 198 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 6: The offensive line isn't in as good shape as it's 199 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 6: ever been with Josh Allen. They get Matt Malano back, Like, 200 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 6: there's great continuity, And I know they lost a couple 201 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 6: older pieces in the secondary, but the guys who are 202 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 6: playing there were there playing for them and they're young. 203 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 6: Last year, I actually look at a pretty strong roster 204 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 6: and yeah, you lost Stefan Diggs, but other than that, 205 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 6: this offseason, like they are a team that has a 206 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 6: lot of continuity, guys that were with the program a 207 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 6: year day. 208 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 4: They lost a lot of like veteran locker room leaders 209 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 4: and yet to make some of those moves. 210 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: But what can act like they lost no one. 211 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 6: I think this is what they have, veteran locker room leaders, 212 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 6: is what I would say. 213 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: I'm kind of sick of having this argument too, because 214 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: I just because a certain type of window for this 215 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: team closed doesn't mean the people that are saying I 216 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: are saying they can't contend. Like but the Stefan Diggs 217 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: von Miller when he was still good Josh Allen on 218 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 2: the rise, like that version of the Bills didn't get 219 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: over the hump. So now they're making some adjustments and 220 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: going out of a different route. I still can see 221 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: them as the favorite Navecy East, but this is a 222 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: year of transition on some level despite the continuity. 223 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, the difficulty is being better than they were at 224 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 5: their peak, and nobody is making the case that they are. 225 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 5: But there could be some teams to come back, Maybe 226 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 5: the Chiefs come back. Maybe this because the Bengals went 227 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 5: through a similar situation in the secondary last year, right, 228 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 5: and they eventually got better. 229 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 2: But it's going to be a slow start. I think 230 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: it's always a process to get back to where you were. 231 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: The only part that the conversation comes in is are 232 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: you doing things that might deliberately hamstring your ability and 233 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: are you making those choices with full awareness of what 234 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: the results are going to be. Nobody knows the results, 235 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: but I think we can be confident in the Bills. 236 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: But the reason that we have these conversations is because 237 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: we're not as confident as we once were because of 238 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: the decisions that they made. 239 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 4: Maybe this is where Odell Beckham goes We've talked about that. 240 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: The Miami Dolphins with Patrick Claybah. I looking at the 241 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four Miami Dolphins as I scroll back, they 242 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: came into a free agency with a lot of questions 243 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: on the defensive line, and then they got even more 244 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 2: questions as Christian Wilkins made his way to Las Vegas, 245 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: and so they The. 246 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 5: Injury for Jalen Phillips was in week twelve. It was 247 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 5: a December thirty first ACL tear for Bradley Chubb. And 248 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 5: so you go into a first round where you're looking 249 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 5: at the edges and Dallas Turner, Layoutu Latu and Jared 250 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 5: Verse are the productive guys, and they all go and 251 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 5: so now you've got a need and you fill that 252 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 5: need with Chop Robinson, who is the projection guy. Like 253 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 5: it's like, well, we hope that we can have Chop 254 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 5: grow and learn and go into this season and become 255 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 5: a better player maybe twenty twenty five. But I don't 256 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 5: know that you put the traits guy in the role 257 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 5: of the production guys. And so I have faith in 258 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 5: the offense, but Fangio's departure, the injuries on the defensive line, 259 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 5: I don't know if there's a pressure to be generated 260 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 5: to make this defense what it can be. For the 261 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 5: off I have all the faith and Mike Mack and 262 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 5: everything in the offense intua, I just not know that 263 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 5: the defense is it. 264 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 4: They lost three of six players that had five plus 265 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 4: sacks from a year ago, and they've got injured player 266 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: people coming off injuries, so they had a lot of 267 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 4: needs going into it. I don't have problem with them 268 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: addressing it with where they were in the draft to 269 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 4: do it. I look at the rest of their draft 270 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 4: and it's like, I think their defense is a work 271 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: in progress. But someone like Jalen Wright, whoevered seven point 272 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 4: four yards per carry and is very fast, like this 273 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 4: is kind of you know, is gonna work for Mike McDaniel. 274 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 4: And they'd added some stuff on on offense. But you're right, 275 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 4: I think the defense is a question mark. And they 276 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 4: like the Bills, they're shift. They're a different team on 277 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 4: some level from where they were a year ago. 278 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 6: They have so many guys someone's got to get left 279 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 6: out there. Moster a hn right, Jeff Wilson still in 280 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 6: that roster. I liked what they did in the offseason 281 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 6: in terms of like adding Kendell Fuller Jordan Poyer, But 282 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 6: you mentioned Chop Robinson, bit of a project. Probably their 283 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 6: second round pick Patrick Paul was looked at like as 284 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 6: a trade. See like guy that they're gonna have to 285 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 6: really coach up a lot of changes on their defense 286 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 6: to your point, including that coordinator. And I worry about 287 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 6: their offensive line spa cially lost some real talent and 288 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 6: they're counting on guys who have been hurt a lot 289 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 6: and really counting on Mike McDonald to coach up the 290 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 6: offensive line and make up for a lack of talent. 291 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: And have they in your opinion of the group, group's opinion. 292 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: Some of the fade of the offense in the last 293 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: couple of years pipeing hot in September, not as hot 294 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: by January. They didn't really address that, so they it 295 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 2: feels like they see that as a narrative quote unquote, 296 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: and they're gonna be okay there are we confident that 297 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: that's the case. 298 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 6: No, I think that there is something to that that 299 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 6: he starts off these seasons hot and they fade. 300 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's like I and also when they go 301 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 4: into Kansas City and it's like minus eighty four degrees, 302 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 4: like they're not built that way and that's not no like. 303 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: They could have taken the end of last year and 304 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: be like, Okay, what do we need to do to 305 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: Justin and maybe maybe it is the quarterback and that 306 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 2: would take another year to figure out. But that's that's 307 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: a big question around this team. It will remain that way. 308 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 5: But I don't think it's a Kingsbury style faith though 309 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 5: none it's. 310 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: Hard to do that. 311 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: The New England Patriots such it's it's you deserved it 312 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: because you were commenting on his comment that was about that. 313 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 4: I shouldn't I shouldn't have put a ribbon on it 314 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 4: or a bow as they'd say, I know, one of 315 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 4: those things. 316 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: Well, now you have a wound, so use the ribbons. 317 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: The bandage, yes, the bleeding which is quite extensive right now, 318 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: that's efficient. 319 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: Just the heads up the New England Patriots. 320 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 6: Greg Rosenthal, Okay, I'm going to ask the question and 321 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 6: then quickly answer it myself. Hopefully is this enough for 322 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 6: Drake May? Like around Drake May? 323 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: That was the most Greg comment ever. 324 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 6: Go ahead, love Jalen Poke seems like a Robert woodsyand 325 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 6: type of guy that can step in fairly soon and contribute. 326 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 6: Javon Baker was the guy people loved it. A deep three. 327 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 6: He's a fourth round pick. 328 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: We'll see. 329 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 6: H the offensive line, they're gonna have to coach it up. 330 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 6: They take a third round pick. They don't really have 331 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 6: a left tackle right now, but it's pretty deep at 332 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 6: receiver Kendrick Bourne to Mario Douglas, Jalen Polk, Juju Smith, Schuster, 333 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 6: kJ Osborn, like it's a ton of third receivers, but 334 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 6: they do have at least a bunch of them. I 335 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 6: tend to think if you add in Rimandri and Antonio Gibson, 336 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 6: they have enough people around him, and they have Jacobe Brissett. 337 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 6: I'm mostly worried about the coaching that is Alex van 338 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 6: Pelt and who else like their their quarterbacks coach, and 339 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 6: then our old friend from New York. Why am I 340 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 6: blanking right now? Who's on the staff too? Like is 341 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 6: the coaching staff gonna be good enough? Because it's to 342 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 6: me a lot of discarded pieces at wide receiver and 343 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 6: in the coaching staff offensively that have to like make 344 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 6: this all work cohesion wise. 345 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 4: I think Van Pelt's gonna bring us to Fanski type offense, 346 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 4: you know largely, and I you know, that's not a 347 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: huge wide receiver. 348 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 6: Why was he the one guy that no one ever 349 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 6: wanted to interview? And I was thinking of Ben McAdoo. 350 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: By the way, no one wanted his photo on the website. 351 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 4: I mean, but I think it's interesting to see what 352 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: happens with these whiteouts because they kind of zigged and 353 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 4: took like five straight offensive players. 354 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: I liked the trying around may to build them up. 355 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: But Belichick drafted twenty one wideouts and only one of them, 356 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: Deion Branch ever, crossed six hundred yards in a season. 357 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: So it's like at some point he's got a hit 358 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: on one of these. 359 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 6: Well, Jillian Edelman, but technically he wasn't a wide autut 360 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 6: fair right, I mean, Julian not a wide when he 361 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 6: was a he was a quarterback. 362 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, comes in quarterback. They figured it out. 363 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's all true wide receiver in the draft. 364 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, go back to the Chad Jackson draft. 365 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 5: Whether I leave, the Patriots took him seven. 366 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 6: Athol Johnson was a second round pick. Is a guy 367 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 6: he didn't even mention he was a second round pick 368 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 6: two years ago. They don't think he's going to make the. 369 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 5: Team, but eventually, like these things are going to even 370 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 5: out and the Patriots aren't going to hit on somebody. 371 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 5: It's I don't know if it's a Belichick thing, if 372 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 5: it's an evaluation thing, or who knows, but the whole 373 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 5: thing is a big question mark to me, not not 374 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 5: just the coaching staff and disassembly. But it's not going 375 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 5: to be worse than Matt Patricia offense, like it's not 376 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 5: going to be change is going to be good in 377 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 5: that capacity, and I think it will give us an 378 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 5: ability to learn. 379 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: But before the season, who knows that. 380 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: It will be interesting to track Reggie. I know you 381 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: will be tracking a close. The Pets moved back to 382 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: take Jilyn Polk at thirty seven when Lad McConkie was there, 383 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: so now you're naturally gonna kind of be tracking both 384 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: those guys and see who's the better pro. 385 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 6: There was a report they tried to trade into thirty 386 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 6: two Buffalo or Carolina chose to trade with Buffalo, and 387 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 6: then the Patriots moved back, so Mike Reese suspects they 388 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 6: were moving up for either Keon Coleman or Xavier Lagette 389 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 6: and then that guy was taken. 390 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: Hmmm. 391 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 2: It's tough, tough, tough, sitch, we move on the New 392 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: York Kuts. 393 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: You're just trying to. 394 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 6: Be to take a time out there, it goes, give 395 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 6: me that time out, time out. I just wanted to 396 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 6: put a little bit of a news onto the show. 397 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: That inside Greg Rosenthal. Greg tastefull to take someone else's 398 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: bit that they made and repurpose it. 399 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: But I'll let you have it an original. 400 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: You could have come up with one on your own, 401 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: so it's all yours. 402 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 6: And we got we got breaking media news from uh 403 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 6: the podcast that that our guy Bill Belichick will be 404 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 6: a part of the Tom Brady roast that Mark Sessler 405 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 6: is attending this weekend, and uh, I am for what 406 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 6: I'm thinking for to Bill Belichick roasting Tom Brady in 407 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 6: a big spot at the Days. 408 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: It's funny. I was telling someone. 409 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 4: I was telling someone like, how do you have this 410 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 4: roast without one of two people, if not both? Belichick 411 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 4: showing up? Obviously he seems to be doing the rounds. 412 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 4: It makes sense for him. But also I don't know Gizelle. 413 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 4: I throw Gizelle in there. She could at this point 414 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 4: they can, they. 415 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: Can co parents. I don't think you're getting Gizelle. 416 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 4: We're getting Belichick and I kind of had a feeling 417 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 4: that was gonna happen, and we've we've got a friend 418 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 4: who's actually working on the production from it from. 419 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: Well, that's why this was. 420 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 6: This is exclusive around the NFL, and I always know 421 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 6: breaking here. 422 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: I mean, as an insider, people shouldn't be able to 423 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 2: know your sources immediately. 424 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: I know exactly who your source was. Does that matter? 425 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: True insiders know who's getting the bee from where sounds threatened? 426 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe not. 427 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 6: Ben Affleck was listed as probable. They not totally locked in, 428 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 6: but uh it sounds like a Ben. 429 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: Aff We have good seats too, but I mean, we're 430 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: not up in the middle of Newers. 431 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: It stands my original point that I made on Saturday Night, 432 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: you know, making Belichick go through these dances. 433 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: Now he's at some dopey roast. 434 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 6: Well, but these are He's a grown man who is 435 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 6: choosing to accept No, he's doing what I'm telling him 436 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 6: to do. He's choosing to accept money in exchange for 437 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 6: having some fun or doing something. 438 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 3: Well, people, people are getting paid for this. 439 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and ps, the event, the event that I'm going 440 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 4: to is not dopey. 441 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: That's your take. Well, people, wait, you think they're doing 442 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: it for free. 443 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: I have no idea. 444 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 5: I actually my understanding that this entire engagement I can't. 445 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 5: I would rather watch another sixty episodes of Blazing the 446 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 5: Monster Machines or Paul Patrol. I am interested in anything 447 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 5: in the world more than a roast of Tom Brady 448 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 5: featuring Bill Belichick or the Patriots documentary. 449 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: I've seen enough Patriots. I'm done with the Patriots. 450 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 4: People are down on this, not Theatrick are not please 451 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 4: at this event. 452 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 6: I was surprised because when I told Emaka this, she 453 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 6: was like, would you want to try to go? 454 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, this feels weird. I know, I don't, 455 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: or you guys are all too cool for this event. 456 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 6: No, now that Belichick is in it, I want to 457 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 6: watch it. I'm going to watch it, but I don't 458 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 6: want to spend her Sunday afternoon. 459 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 5: I'm not too cool for anything. I would again anything 460 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 5: on the planet. I'll go to an astrological convention. I'll 461 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 5: have a palm reader. I do not that. 462 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: There's gonna be clips on my timeline and people, but 463 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: that's where I stand. 464 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 4: I say, at least if I'm going, I don't have 465 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 4: to look at any of those clips ever. 466 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you have to sit in that chair 467 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: for five hours because there's a TV production. There's something 468 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: speaking a post quiet storm. Mark Sessler, Yeah, way on 469 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 2: my radar. Not in a negative way, but like you 470 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: got all these weird events now, like you're always going 471 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: to different things. This is this is this a new 472 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 2: sess Dog move as well. 473 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: This was like a surprise purchase for me. Oh I didn't. 474 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: Like, you know, I want to go though, would you 475 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 2: have gone if it wasn't purchase. 476 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: It wouldn't have occurred to me like to go. 477 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: I don't think, Well you will you be able to 478 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: give us some boots on the ground reporting next week? 479 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: I was thinking. 480 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: Maybe like from the venue. 481 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 4: So it's like the old w FA and NFL things 482 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 4: where they report from stadiums, like get the crowd noise 483 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 4: behind us, and I give you a two minute. 484 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: My guesses will be brutally sanitized in the edit. So 485 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: tom Brady Corp. Doesn't let certain things through. But they 486 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: can't get asked. Mark Sessler, the Insider. 487 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: No, they cannot. They say, it's live. 488 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 3: Are you gonna have to sign something? 489 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: I think so? 490 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 3: I don't think. So you have to turn in your phone. 491 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: I won't do that. 492 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: Mark Sessler arrested Senter good scoopage Greg like, it's you 493 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: are the Tom pellisero to my in wrap report, and 494 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: I think that's a that's a fair way to look 495 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: at it, just like Ian is not at all threatened 496 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: by Tom Pelson, nor am I. 497 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 3: All right? Time in nice half fun. 498 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: Mark, it was more like a halftime show than a time. 499 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: Where is it at the Forum? Yes, my god, yep, yeah, 500 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: I never been there, so that's huge. 501 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 3: Are you gonna be What kind of seats do you have? 502 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: If I recall they were, they weren't like nosebleeds. They 503 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 4: were pretty good. 504 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 3: Free parking park of working with the company here. 505 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I could park in our roge. Yeah, it's the 506 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 4: last remaining perk. 507 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 3: Up. 508 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 2: Next New York Jets real talk, as much as the 509 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: diehards right here were locked and loaded on the idea 510 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: of the Jets as a legit title contender immediately upon 511 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: Rodgers's arrival last April, Aaron Rodgers, it's fair to acknowledge, 512 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 2: now with the benefit of hindsight, that that could have 513 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: been seen as a stretch because exploding Achilles or no, 514 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: the roster was flawed the offensive line was bad, the 515 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: skill positions shaky, and I think now the Jets have 516 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: clearly benefited from the distance of the Rogers Moon period, 517 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: the influx of Aaron's guys who ultimately didn't work out. 518 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: Mike Williams huge upgrade over Alan Lazard. How can third 519 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 2: round rookie Malock I Colely not be better than Randall Cobb, 520 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 2: Tyron Smith, Morgan Moses, first round pook Ola Fashanu massive 521 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 2: steps up from the tackles last year. I can't get 522 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: these green rose tinted glasses off my face. 523 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: You know that? 524 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to tell me, Am I nuts? 525 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: Or did the Jets dare I say, quietly have a 526 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: great offseason. 527 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 6: I don't think anything about It's been quiet, but I 528 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 6: do expect that it's gonna be I guess in relation 529 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 6: to last when you get to training camp. Once we 530 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 6: finally get to the season, people are like, actually, this 531 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 6: is gonna be the year for the Jets, and they 532 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 6: become like a trendy pick again because on paper, I 533 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 6: think the roster construction is better than it was a 534 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 6: year ago when they had all that hype, and they 535 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 6: have some insurance policies like Alan Blizard, for instance, you 536 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 6: mentioned like he's still a wide receiver for but that's 537 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 6: kind of a perfect role for Alan Wizard. 538 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 4: Outside of Zach Wilson, Douglass has done a nice, very 539 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 4: nice job hitting on key draft picks and I and 540 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 4: so I I'm out. You know last was a disaster. 541 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 4: Sure like there's been a there's been a missus. But 542 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 4: I would say that you've you this is not a surprise. 543 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 4: I think the thing is I want to see, number one, 544 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 4: how the NFL responds to the Jets overall world when 545 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: they when the schedule comes out. I think it's going 546 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 4: to be a little more caution than to throw them 547 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: on five or six games. 548 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: And I think they'll be on five or six. 549 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I I don't know though, because I think 550 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 4: something feels more like a prove it year to me. 551 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 4: But I do think, like outside of maybe the fact 552 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 4: they're gonna have to want Monitor brock Bowers, who they 553 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 4: passed on, which could have been a very spicy pick 554 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 4: for the Jets, like, I do think they're better. 555 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: I like what they did. 556 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 6: They traded up for Corley, who is very similar to 557 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 6: me to what Christian Watson was coming out of college 558 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 6: and what Aaron Rodgers can serve like a limited route 559 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 6: but a guy who can make plays after the catch. 560 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: And that's and that's an important part where you can 561 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: do things. And it's just that how long is the 562 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 2: adjustment period with Aaron to where he's wanting where Aaron 563 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: wants him to run? And it's you know, Aaron's tried 564 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: to do that by bringing in guys that he's previously 565 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 2: played with. I think it's a nice meld now of 566 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: like Tyron Smith, like these veteran guys who are still 567 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 2: like towards the end but can still be productive as 568 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: well as young guys. 569 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: It's a lot to feel great about. But it's the. 570 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 5: The Aaron Rodgers as well as you know his offensive coordinator, 571 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 5: hand picked offensive coordinator. 572 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 3: Is is this going to work? 573 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: And we have that is one thing like Nate Hackett, 574 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 4: show it, show us why you're in this position on 575 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 4: any level. 576 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: Time out, time out, you knew that was going to happen. 577 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: So here's this check this out. 578 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: On Friday morning, New York Jets coach Robert Salad Channel 579 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 2: does inner, Sonny Weaver. This is a writer from Rich 580 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: so Many at ESPN dot com. Does anybody know who 581 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: Sunny Weaver. 582 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: Is Sonny Weaver, Heavin Costner's character. 583 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: Everybody knows it, using a line from the twenty fourteen 584 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: film Draft Day. 585 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: Check it out if you're watching on YouTube. 586 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: At eleven nine am, about eight hours before the start 587 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 2: of the second round of the Draft, saw a text 588 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: at a photo of Malchi Corley to GM Joe Douglas. 589 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: Underneath the photo, he wrote, no matter what. Douglas immediately replied, 590 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: no matter what. My point being first of all, you know, 591 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: congrats to my team. They wanted that guy in day two, 592 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: they got him. The bigger point is Draft Day. Like 593 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I we've all talked about the movie on record. 594 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: Not not a good movie by any stretch, but I 595 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: have to give it pop Patrick. It's got legs. It 596 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: has a cultural footprint. People talk about it every year 597 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 2: around this time. It makes me wonder, like, what if 598 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: we actually made a good movie about the Draft that 599 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: would be a classic. But even in its flawed form, 600 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 2: Draft Day has an audience and people have obviously been 601 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: coming back to the movie. 602 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: And I'm a little stunned, but good job by them. 603 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 4: I don't know how many people are still we're referencing 604 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 4: it going back and rewatching it. 605 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 6: Yes, it seems to be a thing round draft time, 606 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,719 Speaker 6: people watching. I still have yet to watch it. I 607 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 6: never need to, and I keep meaning you. 608 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 3: Don't need to. I'll give you a tip. 609 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 6: I just feel like people talk about it every year 610 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 6: around Draft Day, you know, that week, and people start 611 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 6: watching it again. 612 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 4: So that means that Greg skipped the company event where 613 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 4: they brought us to the Century City Movie Theater and 614 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 4: I remember West went, you went? 615 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: We went? 616 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 4: Yes, Greg hard out another thing you're too cool for? 617 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 4: You were too cool for that event. 618 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: What year was that? Twenty fourteen? Yeah, saw a sleep prep? 619 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, well they just it said the twenty fourteen film 620 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 4: Draft Day and what you read before. 621 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 3: Which then led to your iconic review of the film. 622 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 4: I will never do that again in my life. I 623 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 4: was at my parents' house and we'd just gotten there. 624 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 4: It was like these guys called me and I had, 625 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 4: you know, I had a couple classes of wine with 626 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 4: my mom and dad, and then I'm like overly glowing 627 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 4: about Draft Day. 628 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: I wrote a paragraph, but look at. 629 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: It now, it doesn't seem so it what I said 630 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: that what I said seems absurd Apart from started to 631 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: fifth yeah, they took the way they took one little 632 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: clipped part of it. 633 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 4: There was some critique in there too, but it's like, 634 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 4: let's take the little clip part. 635 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 6: And I just want to know how many front oviouss 636 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 6: like are exchanging these sort of texts because it wasn't 637 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 6: quite No matter what, thirty two teams had the chance 638 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 6: to prevent them from doing it throughout round two, and 639 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 6: they did trade up. 640 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: They were doing it, trade up just like Sounny Weaver, right, they. 641 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 6: Said, throughout the second round, but didn't find the right deal, 642 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 6: and then eventually they got uh Corley. But maybe maybe 643 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 6: this is happening everywhere, but then they don't get the. 644 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Guys I do. 645 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 6: I do want to point out though, Steve Smith had 646 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 6: him as his number ten receiver in the draft, ahead 647 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 6: of Ricky Piersall, head of Jalen Poke, and that just 648 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 6: spoke to me because I was like, in a perfect world, 649 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 6: maybe Milecie Corley has a little Uh Steve Smith to him, 650 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 6: and in terms of his game, so game recognized game 651 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 6: similar styles on some level that if Steve Smith liked 652 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 6: him that much, that's a good photo confidence. 653 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 4: It's very unbri that we've had two timeouts already we're 654 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 4: still in the AFC East and have come around the 655 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 4: Jets and the Patriots. 656 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: Well, we got a Browns one coming up too, I'm 657 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: guessing to that point. Malachi was also a subject to 658 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: our friends at Underdog. 659 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: Josh Norris and Hayden Winks. 660 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: Had a really good review of Corley that he's been 661 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: compared by some to Deebo Samuel, but he doesn't have 662 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: nearly the explosive traits as Samuel, but he has the 663 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: ability to maybe be a really good piece for them. 664 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: All Right, now we move on two, the AFC North, 665 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: but first we take a break. 666 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 667 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: We moved to the AFC North and Patrick Claybohn is 668 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: going to get u started with his Baltimore rate. 669 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 5: Yes, the Baltimore Evens had all those departures on the 670 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 5: offensive line, and they did ultimately take Roger Rosengarden in 671 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 5: the second round. But to me, the plan appears to 672 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 5: be being Cleveland and Andrew Vorhees to fill things out 673 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 5: at guard, which I love is sticking with the plan. 674 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 5: If you have that level of attrition on the offensive line, 675 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 5: you can't just say, hey, we're gonna we're gonna draft 676 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 5: some guys and then have a bunch of rookies playing 677 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 5: like that. 678 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 3: That never works. So you stick with the. 679 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 5: Plan that they have and then they take They take 680 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 5: Nate Wiggins. I know people had expressed some size concerns 681 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 5: with Nate Wiggins, but some of that he was sick 682 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 5: before the combine. I think he played closer to one 683 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 5: to eighty. They needed to become more athletic in the secondary. 684 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 5: My overall question about the Ravens is this continued attrition. 685 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 5: The addition of an extra hardball into the league has 686 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 5: created more attrition. We've We've got a defensive coordinator that's 687 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 5: the head coach of Seattle. You look around the league, 688 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 5: there's more Ravens filtered out everywhere. At what point does 689 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 5: it begin to accumulate and we start to see some effects. 690 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 6: You won't feel them as dramatically if they keep hitting 691 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 6: on their draft picks and if Eric Takasa keeps signing 692 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 6: quality free agents late in the process. It does feel 693 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 6: like the last two years especially. It's amazing they got 694 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 6: the one seed in a year that I thought this 695 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 6: year was kind of a rebuilding year for them in 696 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 6: terms of all the people that they left, just in 697 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 6: terms of team building cycles. I don't think they're going 698 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 6: to be losing this many people every year, but DaCosta 699 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 6: has needs i would say at wide receiver, edge, cornerback, 700 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 6: and offensive line still and so I think they will 701 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 6: be adding more five hundred snap type veterans that are 702 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 6: just sitting out there than most teams. 703 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 4: And that is that as during these periods of attrition 704 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 4: like been something that DaCosta and before them Ozzie news 705 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 4: and Ozzie Newsman is still there, have done almost every offseason, 706 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 4: and they tend to hit on those guys at a 707 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 4: high percentage. So it's like, I'm not out on the 708 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 4: Ravens like declining necessarily. To me, it's it's like, I 709 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: don't like losing Mike McDonald, who I think is going 710 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 4: to be like a awesome coach in Seattle and maximized 711 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 4: maximize that Ravens roster in a way that you don't 712 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 4: get every year, and so that's a big I don't 713 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 4: like coordinator switches in general. 714 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 6: I like that they locked up in a surprising move 715 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 6: for Shad Baman for a couple years and I was like, 716 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 6: why did they They really are banking on side baby, 717 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 6: But it turns out he wasn't eligible for his fifth 718 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 6: year option because he didn't report. He begins to he 719 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 6: was gonna be a free agent, but he's now signed 720 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 6: for three years and they were really counting on I mean, there, 721 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 6: he's there two right now, Tess Walker, who drove me crazy. 722 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: One sounds like a loophole for first round pick. 723 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: Well, and I wondered about it. 724 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: Raven. 725 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 5: It's very difficult to utilize that loophole because immediately when 726 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 5: I saw it, I was like, can players utilize this? 727 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 5: But it turns out if you miss any amount of time, 728 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 5: then your league year can't accrue. Whether it's if it's 729 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 5: if it's a mandatory workout, and so I guess in 730 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 5: theory somebody could get stuck in traffic and lose a 731 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 5: year of a crew on that first day of mandatory. 732 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's hard for player. 733 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 6: But Baseman's are two, agalarts are three. I don't really 734 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 6: trust des Walker. I mean he was a dart throat 735 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 6: in the fourth round. 736 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: I trust Walker Rosenthal. No totally separate conversation h trigger Finger. 737 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: He is a inside on the rise that Walker Rosenthal 738 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: a podcast about what the NFL does. 739 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: He does he have Ian's pun number two. Maybe I 740 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: thought you were talking about it. 741 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: He has access to Greg. 742 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 6: I think, is this a Roger Rosengarden joke? I do 743 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 6: like the rose and garden. 744 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 3: In Rose Garden. All right, let's move on. 745 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: All right? 746 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: That was good the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals quietly took 747 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 2: some big swings in their draft. We've talked about Amari Mims, 748 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: a freakishly gifted we call indeed tackle prospect of just 749 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: eight college starts, but the potential to be an all 750 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: pro if it all clicks. It made me think of 751 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: our old friend Chris Westling his fantasy theory. Don't settle 752 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: for the sturdy floor, shoot for the limitless ceiling, and 753 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: live with the potential whiff. Don't tell Chris Ballard I 754 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: said this, but character concerns scared some teams away from 755 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: Alabama receiver Jermaine Burton, but he's another example of a 756 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: high ceiling prospect. They even took a Day three swing 757 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: on a tight end Eric All who had that knee 758 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: bad knee and spe iron injury in college. Bad combo there, 759 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: but we'll see if he's okay. The Bengals have shown 760 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 2: skill in their acquisition of college talent. I'm going to 761 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 2: give him the benefit of the doubt. With Joe Burrow 762 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: on the mend, a big draft could get them over 763 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 2: the hunt. 764 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 4: We talked about Jermaine Burton on our Draft Winners and 765 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 4: Losers episode. I think he slides in and plays a lot. 766 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: I like this draft. 767 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 4: I think Mims it's kind of like they certainly have 768 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 4: a type tackle, but they also I think Chris Jenkins 769 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 4: is a good player who helps with the need. They 770 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 4: were the They give of the third most yards per 771 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 4: carry on the ground that defensive year ago in the league. 772 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 4: Defense kind of sneaky, fell apart at times last year 773 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 4: and it's like they need. 774 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 6: Help right they signed Sheldon Rankins. It's wild that there's 775 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 6: a Chris Jenkins back in the NFL. Chris Jenkins, the 776 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 6: dad was not like a highly tout was he a 777 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 6: highly touted prospect coming out, but it was absolutely ridiculous, beast. 778 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 2: Biggest person I've ever seen in person. The definite of 779 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: the newsroom I. 780 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 6: Think they have to be concerned about is their secondary. 781 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 6: They decided not to use a pick there Cam Taylor. 782 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 6: Brid's coming off an injury, but you feel good about him. 783 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 6: But after that you're counting on second year guys DJ Turner, 784 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 6: Jordan Battle to really step up. Geno Stone is a 785 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 6: bit of an unknown as a free agent pickup, and 786 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 6: so a lot of questions in the secondary. 787 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, if Genostone is the unknown, then then that's I 788 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 5: feel like Genostone could be a known quantity. 789 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 6: He could be great, But it's a guy in a 790 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 6: new system. You know, asn't always started sixteen games, that 791 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 6: sort of thing. 792 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 5: But I think it helps in evaluating especially the new guys, 793 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 5: the newer guys like you know, Dax Hill coming in 794 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 5: and how you're going to move everybody in the secondary. 795 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 5: If you have somebody where it's like we've seen him 796 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 5: be successful in this and so now we know a 797 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 5: little bit more with with the rest of our guys. 798 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 5: But it's I think they were aggressive, like you could 799 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 5: say that they were reaches. I'm with Dan like they 800 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 5: took the aggressive route and we'll have to see because 801 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 5: you have to take chances in order to be success. 802 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 4: Are we concerned it all about a backfield that is 803 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 4: in theory led by Zach Moss. 804 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: No, you got Chase. 805 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 4: I thought we like zachlassked him last year, But that's 806 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 4: that's one year where I thought he did. He did 807 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 4: come in in relief for the Colts and looked good, 808 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 4: but that's not been every other season for him. 809 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: It's just it's it's a whole. 810 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 4: When they when they could batter people on the ground, 811 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 4: they had helped the passing game a ton. 812 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 5: There are very few guys who can handle the volume 813 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 5: that Joe Mixon did in the run and pass game 814 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 5: last year. 815 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 2: Like very few and last But they got trashed in 816 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,959 Speaker 2: the trenches last year when they started zero and five, 817 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: so three of their first four picks in the trenches. 818 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: Up next the Cleveland Browns with Mark Sessler. 819 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 4: All right, the Cleveland Browns have a two time Coach 820 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 4: of the Year and Kevin Stefanski. 821 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, if healthy, we will. This is a 822 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: wait and see. 823 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 4: But if healthy, they have arguably the best back in 824 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 4: the AFC and Nick Chubb. This is one of the 825 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 4: best offensive lines in the conference. They basically kept everyone 826 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 4: on defense, including Jim Schwartz the play caller, after operating 827 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 4: as the nastiest unit around a season ago. They've got 828 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 4: a tight end in Najoku. Dan's guy coming off in 829 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 4: autumn where he played like a star there's a rash 830 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 4: of Pro Bowl talent on this rosterrum both sides of 831 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 4: the ball, and yet we don't talk about the Browns 832 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 4: as sitting in any sort of a Super Bowl window, 833 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 4: or even as a top five team in the AFC. 834 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 4: For the most part, is it just because of the quarterback? 835 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 4: Because I think that's obviously the obvious talking point. But 836 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 4: like the Browns, to me, no matter the talent, feels 837 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 4: like they're not in the conversation to go win multiple 838 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 4: playoff games. 839 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 6: This is a great win now year for them. They 840 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,919 Speaker 6: won eleven games a year ago. I think you're absolutely right. 841 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 6: Like the veteran team, there's a lot of continuity. I 842 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 6: noticed that they might be the only team in the NFL. 843 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 6: Someone out there tell me if I'm wrong. They don't 844 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 6: have any projected starters that were drafted in the last 845 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 6: two years. Part of that is the Shaun Watson trade. 846 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 6: Part of that is just how they've built their roster. 847 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 6: So it's a team of guys who have been there, 848 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 6: who have shown their pretty talented. They got some questions 849 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 6: maybe at like linebacker here and there, but for the 850 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 6: most part, you're right, they should be good if they 851 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 6: get the quarterback help. 852 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 5: The quarterback help is presumably going to be better, right, Like, 853 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 5: that's it, I. 854 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,479 Speaker 6: Mean to be good with average quarterback play. He doesn't 855 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 6: even need to be that good. 856 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 3: And so why not? Yeah, Mark's right, Like why. 857 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 2: I think you know what I think it is, Mark, 858 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 2: I think it's the Watson tax that they're still paying 859 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 2: on different levels, because not only is Watson now in 860 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: year three after two seasons that one lost to suspension, 861 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: the second lost to not playing at a high level 862 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 2: then getting hurt, you have a segment of the media 863 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 2: and NFL fans that aren't really rooting for the Browns 864 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: to be successful. And then there's the football component of like, 865 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 2: you can't win and win a Super Bowl without a 866 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 2: good quarterback and like, we don't have any evidence that 867 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: he is that since he put on this uniform. 868 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: No, because you have these teams out there. 869 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 4: I remember the Rams were trying to do this before 870 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 4: they got golf and everyone else was build a really 871 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 4: great roster and do quarterback last, and like cool, But 872 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 4: the Browns I think have done that under Andrew Berry 873 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 4: is one of the better gms out there. And it's like, 874 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 4: but you went and spent more money than anyone on 875 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 4: the thing that should have been like the absolute engine 876 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 4: that starts this thing. And it's like we're threes. We're 877 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 4: entering year three where we have nothing but increasingly alarming 878 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 4: questions about the position. 879 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 6: The concern would be that Jim Schwartz's defense takes a 880 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 6: step back. There's no reason why it should on paper, 881 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 6: but just if you look at Jim Schwartz's career, it's 882 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 6: had some big spikes and like a lot of defensive coordinators, like, 883 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 6: it's hard to keep that going year after year, but 884 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 6: they're good. 885 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 1: They're good upfront on both sides of the ball. 886 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 3: Like the team. 887 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 5: It doesn't it doesn't help that the last thing we 888 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 5: saw was then run out of NRG stadiums forty five 889 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 5: to fourteen. 890 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: I think that, yeah, a lot of turnovers. 891 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 3: But Toffy. 892 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: The rival of the Cleveland Browns the Pittsburgh Steelers with 893 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal right, everyone loved the Steelers draft. 894 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 6: There's a thing I saw where it adds up all 895 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 6: the grades and so it's consensus grades. 896 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: It's good, and the Steelers finish first. 897 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 6: Like Steelers were uniformly a's across the board by investing 898 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 6: in their offensive line with Fatanu who maybe fell a 899 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 6: little bit, very athletic. Zach Frasier looks like a start. 900 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 6: So you get two guys who can probably play right 901 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 6: away up front. Russell I mean Roman Wilson is a 902 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 6: receiver that can contribute right away as a third round pick. 903 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 6: And then Peyton Wilson just a really exciting talented guy 904 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 6: that fell because people think he's only gonna have one 905 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 6: contract in the NFL. 906 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: The quarterback is a thing. 907 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 6: But when Mike Tomlin said, Russell Wilson fields Arthur Smith 908 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 6: on our network, like, these guys have all been scalded. 909 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: Am I a fool to buy in? 910 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 6: When Mike Tomlin says, like they've all been scalded and 911 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 6: they essentially they got something to prove. 912 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: Am I a fool to buy in that? Like, man 913 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: this roster, I could see it. 914 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 3: No, he's a leader of men, that Mike Tomlin. 915 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 2: And even if you are a thousand miles away, three 916 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: thousand miles away, you believe that's his thing. 917 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 3: You ever have a fantasy. 918 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 2: Draft, I think we all have where you just feel 919 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 2: like the gods are with you a little bit and 920 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 2: every time your turn comes up, that there's something there 921 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 2: that you want that's sitting there, and I feel like 922 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: getting a tackle at the first pick, then get in 923 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 2: the center, and then you get the wide receiver. We 924 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 2: know the Steelers know how to pick wide receivers in 925 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 2: the middle rounds. You then you add with a linebacker. Yeah, 926 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 2: I trust them and it's gonna be interesting to see 927 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 2: what happens with this team. 928 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like Daniel Jeremiah looked at the first five picks 929 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 4: and they were all value picks and that's like, that's 930 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 4: what the Steelers do when they're on their on their game. 931 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 4: And Zach Fraser, especially the center out of West Virginia, like, 932 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 4: I keep it all over and it was like, this 933 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 4: is a Steelers type of player at the core. 934 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 6: They they won the Consensus board game, you know how 935 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 6: you got on Howie about that, Like, Steelers kind of 936 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 6: won that too. 937 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: But it makes it to me. 938 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 6: It makes sense how they're building the rod if these 939 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 6: are going to be their quarterbacks, how they're building the 940 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 6: roster around him makes sense. 941 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: And they might add another another receiver. 942 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 6: Bryan McFadden, who used to be on the team and 943 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 6: is in the media now, said he heard they're adding 944 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 6: another playmaker. There were reports that they were in on 945 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 6: the Courtland Sutton conversation. I don't know who that would be. 946 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 6: Maybe it's just like Odell Beckham and that he could 947 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 6: be a good role play for them. 948 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. 949 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 2: Justin Fields and Russell Wilson same quarterback room. I forgot 950 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 2: about that. That's crazy. 951 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: I'd play them. I play them. That's gonna be why 952 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: came after game? 953 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 3: Just play them to me a wild summer, just just 954 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 3: have them. 955 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 5: I mean, every everybody ends up playing anyway, right, So well, 956 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,439 Speaker 5: it's it's very rare that that everybody's gonna somebody's gonna 957 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 5: need a backup quarterback. And the Steelers good are in 958 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 5: a very very good position, definitely better in terms of 959 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 5: their quarterback room than they have been in a very 960 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 5: very long time. 961 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 2: If the men involved, they're comfortable with, you know, the arrangement. 962 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,240 Speaker 2: You know, I wonder what the juice is gonna behind 963 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 2: the scenes. Hard knocks, Steelers would be good. 964 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 3: Oh, everybody would say the right thing. 965 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 6: I'm getting those projected starters ready, oh hell yeah. The 966 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 6: first tough question was Fields or or Russell Wilson. My 967 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 6: gut is Fields. I just think he's better. 968 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 2: So they're saying Russell is the guy with you. But 969 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 2: they're saying Mike T's gonna make the right pick. Yeah, 970 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 2: I didn't want it to happen to you. 971 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 3: Pass. 972 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 2: No, that's okay, I want to he took it. I 973 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 2: was looking at the clock raising a shot. By the 974 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 2: way too. 975 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 6: That NFL network polo actually has magical power bounce bullets off. 976 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: Apparently all our shirts do. 977 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 2: Uh, let's saw a bit more. All right, I will 978 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 2: from here onle you got a guyser wound in the 979 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 2: little quiet stir coming. All right, take a break. We'll 980 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 2: be right back with the AFC South. All right, we 981 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 2: are back. Let's move to the AFC South. Around the 982 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 2: AFC we are going arown the AFC in forty eight minutes. 983 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:22,760 Speaker 3: Hit the clock. 984 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 2: The Texas no picks in the top forty, but they 985 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 2: address both sides of the ball in the second round 986 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 2: Georgia cornerback Kamari Lassiter and Notre Dame offensive tackle Blake Fisher. 987 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: So after a draft that plugged holes at depth chart weaknesses, 988 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,760 Speaker 2: we spin forward with a team that has been widely 989 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 2: favored to win the AFC South. 990 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 3: Make a deep. 991 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: Playoff run Stefan Diggs in the building. 992 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 2: So you add that you know there was a upsetting 993 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 2: incident around Tank Dell who was involved in a shooting, 994 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 2: but he appears to be okay, and that's great. Anyway, 995 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 2: we're old enough to answer this question because we all 996 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 2: know the history of this franchise goes back to two 997 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 2: thousand and two. Is this the deepest and best Houston 998 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 2: Texans roster in franchise history? 999 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 4: I would say that it's number one, by far, the 1000 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,479 Speaker 4: best quarterback situation they've had. 1001 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,479 Speaker 1: They're pretty deep all over the place. 1002 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 4: I think they have the best coaching staff they've had 1003 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 4: in the modern day NFL. Ever, and like, there's not 1004 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 4: you look around on both sides of the ball, there's 1005 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 4: not a lot to not like. I think some of 1006 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 4: these these they're young, they need these drop picks to 1007 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 4: come in and play a lot. But it's like, yes, 1008 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 4: this is the highest ceiling Texas team Texans team I've 1009 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 4: ever seen. 1010 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 2: In fairness, we just talked about Deshall Wattson, but before 1011 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 2: the madness, right, he was a high level quarterback, so 1012 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 2: by far feels strong. 1013 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 3: But C J. 1014 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 2: Stroud, you can't quibble with how great he was as aroo. 1015 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 2: I'll stick with it though, But yeah, I'll give the 1016 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 2: edge to the Texans team that had the twenty four 1017 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 2: to nothing lead over the eventual Super Bowl champ. 1018 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 3: M Chiefs on the road like that, that was a 1019 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,399 Speaker 3: very good team. 1020 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 5: I can't say because you look at like the nuke 1021 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 5: on that team. 1022 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 3: There was JJ aj I think was JD. Clowney still 1023 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 3: on that team. 1024 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 5: They had They had like highly drafted guys that were 1025 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 5: producing in big parts of that squad, which they have 1026 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 5: on this one. You can make I think I would 1027 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 5: be willing to make that case after this year. But 1028 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 5: they're very very solid all the way through, and I 1029 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 5: just want to see. 1030 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one nineteen. 1031 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 1: They're scrowing up very very fast. 1032 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 6: Oh where the ceiling? Hey, Texans fans out there thinking, hey, 1033 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 6: how about that Matt Schobb team that went twelve and four? 1034 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 6: That was a good team. Had JJ Watted, as you 1035 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 6: said in that job though, Yeah, had JJ Watt and 1036 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 6: his absolute peak Andrew john two Hall of famers though 1037 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 6: at their peak with Andrey Johnson and JJ Watt and 1038 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 6: Aaron Foster at his peak was a fun team. 1039 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: Those teams used to be wiped out in the playoffs 1040 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: then they weren't. 1041 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 6: So I do think you look at their offensive line 1042 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 6: and their secondary, and Texans fans are so high on 1043 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 6: this froster, and I do think Look, they drafted a 1044 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 6: right tackle, Blake Fisher, that was kind of after a 1045 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 6: big drop off at the position and hoping maybe he 1046 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 6: can play right away. I do think they got a 1047 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 6: little unlucky with a couple of cornerbacks going or defensive 1048 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 6: backs going right before last. I think the secondary in 1049 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 6: the offensive line, they're hoping to be average, and so 1050 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 6: I don't think they're totally all the way there. This 1051 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 6: was a team, you know that was just building. 1052 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: But with c. J. 1053 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 6: Stroud, anything's possible. I'll take it the twenty nineteen Texans. 1054 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 2: New because we said Kenny spills will fuller, rookie Laramie Tunsel, 1055 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 2: I believe, or young Laramie Tunsel. 1056 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: Let's see, because he had come over for. 1057 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 2: That's right for Miami's DJ Reader, is there, young Reader? 1058 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1059 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 3: JJ Watt still at a high level. Yeah, that was 1060 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 3: That's a very good roster. 1061 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 4: I will take this coaching stuff over what Yeah, Ryan 1062 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,280 Speaker 4: was offering for sure in the front office. 1063 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 3: All right. 1064 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 2: Up next in the AFC South is the Indianapolis Colt 1065 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 2: with Greg Rosenthal. 1066 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 6: I'm into this team looked around at kind of just curious, 1067 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 6: like the division odds. You know, we're not allowed to 1068 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 6: do stuff like that, but uh, we're not Colts. 1069 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 4: I mean we're we're allowed to look in your private time, 1070 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 4: Colts plus. 1071 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 6: Three point thirty to win the division, third behind the Jaguars. 1072 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 6: This to me is a team that has just been 1073 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 6: fine for a while, and they took some big swings 1074 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 6: on some real talented players in terms of eighty Mitchell 1075 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,720 Speaker 6: in Laatu Latu and then you get the extraordinarily talented 1076 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,439 Speaker 6: Anthony rich we get back. It's a very talented team 1077 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 6: that was rightly with Houston to end last season despite 1078 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 6: not having a quarterback. 1079 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: To me, they're they're one A, one B. 1080 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 6: I see them as closer than the rest of the 1081 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 6: than those odds would indicate, and I see them ahead 1082 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 6: of the Jaguars by a decent amount. 1083 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: Do you guys think they're ready to win now? 1084 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 3: Yeah? Can win? 1085 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: What because they division? 1086 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 3: No? 1087 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 4: I think the Texans are gonna like find a way 1088 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 4: to win that division by games. 1089 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 2: What if you know, now you've got this quarterback, if 1090 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,720 Speaker 2: he turns out to be the guy that he hinted 1091 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 2: he was, and that everyone fell in love with that. 1092 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 2: Then is the X factor that takes this team and 1093 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 2: really does make them at the level potentially of the Texans. 1094 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,919 Speaker 2: They're a very interesting team to track. Chris Ballard's a GM, 1095 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,879 Speaker 2: so I like that too. Yeah, and then so much. 1096 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 2: This was a team that almost was in This was 1097 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 2: a team that was in it against the Texans with 1098 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew at quarterback, and considering the growth that we 1099 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 2: saw from Richardson at the start of the season, I 1100 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 2: have every bit of a reason to believe that they 1101 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 2: would have been a better team h Richard. 1102 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 3: If Richardson finishes things out. It was just, you know, I. 1103 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 4: Mean, he's a bit of a TVD. He's certainly fascinating. 1104 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 4: But like that, I think that Ballard, you know, he's 1105 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 4: just he does not move off of what he wants 1106 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 4: to do. And I know that they've had a tough 1107 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,280 Speaker 4: time finding the quarterback until maybe now, but they already 1108 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 4: were like the fifth best pass rush win rate team 1109 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 4: a year ago and add a law to to that 1110 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 4: and they were I remember I tried to make this 1111 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 4: pitch about them being interesting to see him a year 1112 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 4: ago and when people weren't buying it. But it's like 1113 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,760 Speaker 4: weekly on a weekly basis. That defensive front was beating 1114 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 4: people up. So if anything, if you can get to 1115 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 4: Stroud and Trevor Lawrence and the rest of the quarterbacks 1116 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 4: in this division, you got a shot. 1117 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 6: Pretty good line, very intriguing defensive line. Adding lots to 1118 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 6: that mix. As you mentioned, secondary is a concern. They're 1119 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 6: very young there and they're hoping their second year guys developed. 1120 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,720 Speaker 6: But I just liked the coaching. Not so much Gus Bradley. 1121 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 6: I think he's solid. He's a good defense corner Bud 1122 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 6: Steich and gives me confidence that this seem just felt 1123 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 6: like it's like a but it's kind of average. And 1124 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 6: then now maybe you add some exciting draft picks in 1125 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 6: Richardson that that's the little sprinkle on top of this. 1126 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 2: I think that keeping giant to me like they were 1127 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 2: commendable for fighting through everything last year, staying in the 1128 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 2: mix of the very end right, but obviously lacking something 1129 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 2: that gave them sizzle. That's Richardson hypothetically. And our buddy 1130 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 2: Chris Ballard, who we listened to the other day, listen 1131 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 2: to this. When the first defensive player in the draft 1132 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 2: falls to him at fourteen, here's his reaction. This video 1133 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 2: coming from Colts dot Com. Dan, I loovet that cackle, 1134 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 2: but the hair slick back. I love this guy. 1135 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 4: Oh, I think he looks better than he's ever looked. 1136 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 4: And he's you know, he's chuckling in the middle of 1137 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 4: the war room. He's comfortable, he's sparing the newsers. I'll 1138 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 4: love it more, Chris Ballard, look at that. I'll take 1139 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 4: the dart. Like now, I'm looking at his hair from 1140 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 4: the side shot. This is conditioned. This is he's putting. 1141 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 3: Money into this. 1142 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 4: Like I said on Saturday, he looks about twelve years 1143 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 4: younger than to me than he did at other points 1144 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 4: in this Cults run. 1145 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,439 Speaker 2: You know what he's I know, Mark, what you keep saying, 1146 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 2: and I know, but I'm saying now he's almost I 1147 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 2: think he maybe he's trying to crib off less Need 1148 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 2: a little bit. 1149 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: He's like cribbing off the notes of Less physically looks 1150 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: very much. Tom Brady's take a. 1151 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 3: Look at this. I don't think so. 1152 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: And listen, I want to hear more of why you 1153 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 1: made that face. 1154 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,760 Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's a stretch. 1155 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 6: I think he felt like you were comparing someone to 1156 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:53,879 Speaker 6: the goat and Less needed. 1157 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,760 Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying reach lass is like a nine 1158 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 2: out of ten. Physically, I'm not saying that, but. 1159 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 5: No, and I think less puts more energy and attention 1160 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 5: probably into his particular look than Chris ballor does this 1161 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 5: looks like this is slickback hat, take off hat? 1162 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 3: I'm inside I'm a hard disagree. 1163 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 2: Really yeah, as a hair guy, No, you're that's not 1164 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 2: not accidental. 1165 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 4: Okay, it does tell me like significant other or female 1166 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 4: presence at some point encouraged him to you ethanize the look, 1167 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 4: not youthanize, ethanize his old look. 1168 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 6: Yeah to you thu to you thup right, Well, I 1169 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 6: believe I believe him and his wife have. 1170 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 2: A lot of five children, but you believe separate no 1171 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,720 Speaker 2: good many kicks family some you know. That's that maybe 1172 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,439 Speaker 2: speaks to a potential midlife crisis, but in a good way. 1173 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: Like and now he's like, look at this, it seems 1174 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 1: like he's in a crisis. 1175 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 3: It seems like he's coming. 1176 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 1: He's dodged a lot of cults. Crisis is like a. 1177 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 6: True very effects to come out the other side, very true, 1178 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 6: very true. 1179 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,399 Speaker 1: All right, that was a time out. 1180 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what listen I didn't hear dart, I 1181 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,360 Speaker 2: didn't hear a time out. It just thinks this and 1182 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 2: the ether. 1183 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 4: Jeric is ununderstandably just said, you know, there's no consequence 1184 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 4: to anything. 1185 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,879 Speaker 1: About the team. It was more ballards there. 1186 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,280 Speaker 2: It is see great judgment by a to eight pipe 1187 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 2: trying to be you know, less trigger happy this episode. 1188 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,240 Speaker 1: You know what you're maturing and you're about to become 1189 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: the father. Yeah, you can't be throwing darts around at people. 1190 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: Don't be firing guns as a newborn or new father. 1191 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 2: Jaguars of Jacksonville with Patrick Claiban. 1192 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:30,919 Speaker 3: Thanks guys, I'm confused. Welcome. I'm I'm not really sure. 1193 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 3: I love Brian Thomas Jr. 1194 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 5: I think he gives the jackson Field stretching capability that 1195 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 5: they kind of tried to halfway do by committee with 1196 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 5: everybody else and put Calvin Ridley in weird situations that 1197 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 5: didn't necessarily seem to suit Calvin Ridley. He's a real 1198 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,359 Speaker 5: true top end speed guy that I think with a 1199 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 5: healthy Trevor Lawrence will be successful. But I'm looking at 1200 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 5: the rest of the picks and I don't really know 1201 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 5: what necessarily Trent Balk's plan is. I know they bring 1202 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 5: in the linebacker coach from LSU. I can't I'm blanking 1203 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 5: on his name. I think Matt House perhaps, So they 1204 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 5: ultimately take two LSU defenders who were highly recruited, recruited guys, 1205 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 5: one of them very athletic in Mason Smith, as well 1206 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 5: as Jordan Jefferson. But this LSU defense never stopped anybody 1207 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 5: the entire season, and Jayden Daniels and Malik Neighbors and 1208 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 5: BTJ like they're running up and down the field scored 1209 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 5: a million points. They could not stop anybody, and so 1210 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:35,240 Speaker 5: it was just a very confusing conglomeration of choices considering 1211 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 5: their needs right, because they're very solid at the edge, 1212 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 5: I believe Travon Walker is going to have the growth, 1213 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 5: but I'm just I'm not sure what the plan is. 1214 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 5: What do you guys think the Jacksonville Jaguars plan is 1215 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 5: on defense. 1216 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 6: To a mass as many guys who look great coming 1217 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 6: off the bus. That's just Trent, that's balky balls Trent. 1218 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 1: That's what he want the bartak Heads, No, that's what 1219 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 1: he wants to do, and it hasn't worked that well. 1220 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 6: And they're secondary to me is a huge concern, like 1221 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 6: how does this team stop the Texans and other good 1222 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,800 Speaker 6: passing teams. They drafted a guy Jerry and Jones in 1223 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 6: the third round. That is, you know, wasn't that highly 1224 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 6: thought of. They are the anti Steelers and Eagles in 1225 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 6: terms of the contensus sport. After the Brian Thomas pick, 1226 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,479 Speaker 6: which I thought was savvy, great trade down, loved to pick. 1227 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 6: After that, Balki's off on his own island, taking guys 1228 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 6: rounds before they're expected to go. 1229 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: And that's just how he rolls. That's Trent Balki. 1230 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 2: He's the opposite of what we're talking about. How he 1231 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 2: grows right, got his own world. 1232 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 1: Yes he does. 1233 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 4: I think they are a bit of a like from 1234 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 4: a Q raiding angle, just because the South went from 1235 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 4: like floating garbage to like white hot in like the 1236 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 4: course of a calendar year. Because you know, a year 1237 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 4: ago we were fascinated by the Jaguars and not really 1238 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 4: questioning the team building at that point, and they'd been 1239 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 4: active in free agency on wide receivers, paid him a 1240 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 4: lot and it worked. 1241 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 1: But it's like they I don't think you can survive. 1242 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 4: In the NFL with a with a C minus or 1243 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,080 Speaker 4: very big question mark cornerback room. 1244 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 6: One small bit of news, relatively small not for Jay 1245 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 6: Jones is that they released Jay Jones on Tuesday, so 1246 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 6: they're rolling with Gabe Davis. Devin Duvernet is there too, 1247 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,800 Speaker 6: is the kind of wide receiver. 1248 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 3: I think it could help them a little bit. 1249 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,799 Speaker 2: Everyone dismissing them at this point, and expectations are very 1250 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 2: low around the same care about that everyone's falling. 1251 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 3: Just talk about two teams. 1252 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: Like second, they had the cults behind them for what 1253 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 1: it's worth, right, But cognicentim. 1254 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 2: Does that mean it doesn't matter? COGNACENTI thinks, but people aren't. 1255 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 2: I got it, I understand, and I deserved it, and 1256 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:42,879 Speaker 2: it hurts. Okay, the Tennessee Titans with Mark Sessler. Ain't 1257 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 2: nobody pumping up the Titans. But should they be Mark. 1258 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,319 Speaker 4: Well, they weren't able to garage door size tackle Joe 1259 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,839 Speaker 4: all like ninety nine percent of humanity thought they were 1260 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 4: U But they I do think that they're getting J. C. 1261 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 4: Latham out of Alabama because we trust Alabama helps a lot. 1262 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 4: Their tackles last year had a forty nine point three 1263 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,760 Speaker 4: pass blocking grade for PFF, second worst in the NFL. 1264 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 4: They allowed sixty four sacks last season, fourth most in 1265 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 4: the NFL one hundred and sixty over the past three years. 1266 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,799 Speaker 4: Third most that's why Ryan Tannehill was on crutches when 1267 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 4: we were in London getting card at off and we 1268 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:17,280 Speaker 4: saw him the funnel. 1269 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,440 Speaker 1: Remember that. But now you've got Lateth them at. 1270 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,760 Speaker 4: Left tackle, big old boy Pete Scaransky at left guard. 1271 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 4: I like him a lot, Lloyd Cushionberry three at center, 1272 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 4: and magic Man Bill Callahan tutoring the group. So they 1273 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 4: got an identity and I like that. I don't get 1274 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 4: Devandre Sweat in round two because he essentially got like 1275 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 4: a dui right before visiting with the Titans. 1276 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,240 Speaker 3: Seems like it that was a play. 1277 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 1: Okay, very much DVD on that one. 1278 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,280 Speaker 4: But I think you've got a team that we knew 1279 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 4: a year ago had a desperate need along the offensive 1280 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 4: line and the wide receiver position. Now you've got DeAndre Hopkins, 1281 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 4: You've got Calvin Ridley, Treylon Burks is a good three. 1282 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 4: I like them in that position versus where he was 1283 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 4: having to be before. We'll see that it's a better 1284 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 4: situation for will of us. But are you buying into 1285 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,359 Speaker 4: the Ian Callahan Carnival of love? 1286 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 1: M Is there one existing? Is there any I've just 1287 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 1: called it that. Maybe that's why you can say you 1288 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: don't buy into it. 1289 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 6: I'm buying into Lloyd Cushion Berry three being his his nickname. 1290 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 4: I don't say the third, I just say three LC three. 1291 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,919 Speaker 6: For a long time, he would always call him Roger 1292 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:24,919 Speaker 6: Griffin two RGI two. I Well, just keep an eye 1293 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 6: on their decision to not take Roma Dunze there. It's 1294 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 6: funny because there Adam Schefter reported or intimated that Joe 1295 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 6: Alt was going to go to the Giants if if 1296 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 6: he hadn't been taken Roma Dunsay, you pass on him 1297 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 6: to take Latham, and then you pass on the receivers 1298 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 6: that were left in the second round, and there were 1299 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 6: some intriguing ones to take Sweat. So that's just something 1300 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 6: I'll keep an eye because I'm not convinced that DeAndre 1301 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 6: Hopkins at this point in his career, and really like 1302 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 6: you could have added another weapon. 1303 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 1: By the way, Ryan Tane was still a free agent. Well, 1304 00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: I just put him under the Raiders two. Is like that? 1305 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 4: Why are you not like? Why is he still sitting 1306 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 4: out there? Give it, give it a try. Is he 1307 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 4: maybe pondering some things right now about his future? I 1308 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 4: don't know get this Tannehill sweeps now. 1309 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 3: And beat up a little bit. 1310 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 6: I think he just didn't get any good offers and 1311 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 6: maybe might be a guy who waits till training him. 1312 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 6: I do think he gets a job, you. 1313 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 3: Know, go full Flacco. 1314 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 2: It could pay off it, it can anything else about 1315 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 2: the Titans tough one. 1316 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 4: Not as much juice, very much of all these Taylors 1317 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 4: very much in transition. There's just a lot of time. 1318 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 6: I mean, there's still major questions on the right side 1319 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 6: of their offensive line. The defense on paper looks good. 1320 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 6: They have one another one of the Ravens kind of assistants, 1321 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 6: Dennard Wilson coaching them up. I believe in Brian Kellyan 1322 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 6: because he brought his dad there. 1323 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 3: I'm with you. Hey, wait a second, Wait a second. 1324 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 2: Now, you could take your own issues with your father, 1325 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 2: whatever's going on with the Roberts house. But you don't 1326 00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 2: dart a man for speaking positively about his old in 1327 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 2: side of bounds, Eric Mark. 1328 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 4: It was more more on Marks at me screeing with 1329 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 4: someone else about something that. 1330 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 1: You guys, they soon to be dad, and yeah, dads 1331 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 1: are awesome. 1332 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 3: Guys. 1333 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 2: Come on, Patrick Claybon, do we trust Alabama implicitly and always. 1334 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the university. 1335 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 4: Or I was seeing the football program like you know 1336 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 4: in the Nick Saban era, Like these guys come out 1337 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 4: as ready as from any universe. 1338 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 3: How about the state state from Patrick? We don't know. 1339 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's it's four million people, you know, 1340 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 5: all with hope, streams and desires and uh then yeah, 1341 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 5: you know, I think you got a good shot, just 1342 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 5: as good a shot. 1343 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 3: As anywhere else. 1344 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 1: A couple of question marks there. 1345 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I mean there's we got some we got 1346 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 5: some Where did you grow up? I got a QAnon 1347 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 5: next door neighbors, so we got they're all over the place. 1348 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 3: Where'd you grow up? 1349 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 5: Wait in l A, you do, absolutely, I had, I 1350 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 5: had weird no, So full disclosure. 1351 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: Let's take a time out. 1352 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 3: Let's take a time out. 1353 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 2: So we're in a transition period of the show post 1354 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 2: a division, so we don't need to We're good. 1355 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 3: We're good. There's there's a guy. 1356 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 5: There's a guy on my street who has his own newspaper, right, 1357 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 5: and he passes out newspapers to a select few houses, 1358 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 5: always skipping ours, mainly because I didn't necessarily want him 1359 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 5: going through our trash. But anyway, yeah, that's another thing 1360 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 5: that he does. 1361 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 3: So I go to the breezy. 1362 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 1: How does he go through? 1363 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 3: He walks through down the street. 1364 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 2: He opens people's trash cans and moves them and like 1365 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 2: reorganizes trash. And I have no idea why. I yes, yeah, 1366 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, hey man, we're good on the trash. I'll 1367 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 2: put it in the street and then I'll take it 1368 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 2: back like we're good. I don't need you messing with 1369 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 2: our trash. 1370 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 3: And so a fair request. Yeah, so that was four 1371 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 3: years ago. Things are still weird. 1372 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 5: But one day one of these flyers floated into the 1373 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 5: breezeway and I pick it up. It was like full 1374 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 5: on Aaron Rodgers for five pages of the most inane 1375 01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 5: and impossible things. And I'm like what And then I 1376 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 5: look and I see, you know, this proliferated through the street. 1377 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 5: So yeah, I say that to say, you may think 1378 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 5: that you're in a place that's in a bastion of 1379 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 5: sanity and people have yard signs that say love and support, 1380 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 5: but those people are not your friends. And those people 1381 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 5: exist from sea to shining sea in this union. 1382 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 1: A great point, Pat. 1383 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 6: There's a there's a newspaper that you know, those free 1384 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 6: newspapers you can open up and just take them, little 1385 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 6: community newspapers there. 1386 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 1: It is through journalism. 1387 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 6: Santa Monica's got a couple of them, and yeah, I 1388 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 6: used to take them because sometimes you see, oh, there's 1389 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 6: a Walker's friend and his soccer team won the ten 1390 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,919 Speaker 6: and under youth championship of Southern California. This is cool, 1391 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 6: and you've you float through it and it's mostly pretty normal, 1392 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 6: and then every once in a while you realize, like, oh, 1393 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 6: the Santa Monica Mirror is actually like a hard alt 1394 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 6: right organization which just throws just sprinkles in like little 1395 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 6: things every once in a while. So it's everywhere everywhere, Mark, 1396 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,479 Speaker 6: I was this, this guy Patrick is at a weekly paper. 1397 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 4: I mean, it sounds like a lot of work. So 1398 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 4: stringers and other correspondence. 1399 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 3: It's it's not every week. I'll see if I can 1400 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 3: get some evidence. 1401 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe I'll I'll tweet it out, maybe I'll go 1402 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 5: I've wanted to take one from somebody's porch. 1403 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 3: But I feel like that's a that's a boundary cross. 1404 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 2: Do you ever think of creating a competing yeah, independent 1405 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 2: news like counter newspaper. 1406 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 4: It's not subscriber base. He's just put in it on 1407 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 4: people's property's. 1408 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,800 Speaker 3: He's walking out and he's hand delivering this paper. 1409 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 1: To and Patrick Claybound's not getting a copy. 1410 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,400 Speaker 3: No, nor do I want right, nor do I want one? 1411 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 3: I you know, I. 1412 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 1: Would like Carrie. 1413 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 2: This feels like its own podcast, just tracking this neighborhood. 1414 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, this weird neighborhood. 1415 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 1: Bring one in so we can just assess what's going 1416 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 1: on here. 1417 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 2: I'll try to get one for you. Okay, I'll try 1418 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 2: to get one. Let's take a break and we'll finish 1419 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 2: out the AFC. 1420 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 7: Full of hot from stunt to finish delivers on the 1421 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 7: great tension of the NFL draft while showing how human 1422 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:12,440 Speaker 7: the entire process means. Moccess it up NFL dot com. 1423 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: You're out of your mind. 1424 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah I am. And I proved that already. 1425 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 4: That would have been a sweet spot for the company 1426 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 4: just to wave goodbye to me. 1427 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 2: And they, you know, lost opportunity. I guess what I'm 1428 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 2: trying to say is you kind of were proven. Even 1429 01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 2: if it was you were a little more over the 1430 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 2: top than you wish you would have been. History proved 1431 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 2: that it was not a forge forgettable film. It is 1432 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 2: very much in the discourse at least every spring for 1433 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 2: for us. 1434 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 3: You know, I'm taking the l on it. 1435 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 2: I thought it was completely that I mentioned, well it 1436 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 2: was a little strong again, but I thought it was 1437 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 2: a draft day was not only. 1438 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 3: Forgettable. 1439 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,439 Speaker 2: I thought it was a huge missed opportunity, and yet 1440 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 2: here it is ten years later. 1441 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 4: Well, people can go to NFL dot com and read ard, 1442 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 4: you know he said, he said, like call him right 1443 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 4: if it's still who even knows? But you were you 1444 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 4: had some supportive words. It wasn't all f minus from you. 1445 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 3: Read between the lines on it. You could tell what 1446 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 3: was going. 1447 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 1: On between these lines. 1448 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 2: Let's head to the AFC West with Greg Rosenthal. 1449 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: A team of. 1450 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 3: The Denver Broncos. 1451 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Broncos, I. 1452 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 2: Mean, we're all we're all a little shaken up by 1453 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 2: the Patrick clay By neighborhood, which, by the way, not 1454 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,960 Speaker 2: for nothing. When we went to break we got some 1455 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 2: more details that are not for air on this media 1456 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 2: group platform. 1457 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,240 Speaker 3: But wild it's actually even darker than you to match. 1458 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 1: All right, let's restart the clock. All right, let's restart 1459 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:58,440 Speaker 1: the clock. Sorry, Greg, go ahead. The Broncos with Greg Rosenthal. 1460 01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 6: So Sean Payton improved this often from twenty eighth to 1461 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 6: nineteenth in the league, Like he did coach them up 1462 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 6: a little bit, considering they by every metric possible they 1463 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 6: had a top ten offensive line and basically bring back 1464 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,080 Speaker 6: the same group. The wide receiver group which you've heard 1465 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:17,280 Speaker 6: Sutton is maybe available is Courtland Sutton, Josh Reynolds, Troy Franklin, 1466 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 6: which was a fun dart throw, but it was a 1467 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 6: fourth round pick, played with bow Knicks in college, but 1468 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 6: a ton of production and Marvin Mims. 1469 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 1: Does bo Nicks have it? 1470 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,480 Speaker 6: If bo Nicks is good, does he have a chance 1471 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 6: to be good with this group around him? And more importantly, 1472 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 6: like have they helped him enough with the defense which 1473 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 6: fell off a cliff with Sean Payton arriving. 1474 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 1: They were thirtieth in the league in terms of DEVU. 1475 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,120 Speaker 4: The only thing that kind of has thrown me for 1476 01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,680 Speaker 4: it because it was like Jerry Judy was on the 1477 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 4: trade block for like forty two years at one point 1478 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,400 Speaker 4: there and they finally made it happen. Now it's Sutton, 1479 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 4: and it's like you're down to Mims, Greg Dolcic and 1480 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 4: it's like ye of the landing spots for quarterbacks because hey, 1481 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 4: you're Bo Nicks and so you're not you know, you're 1482 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 4: not Caleb Williams to begin with. I do think he 1483 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 4: could be very productive, though I don't dislike Bonix from 1484 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 4: what I from what I watch, but I'd say this, like, 1485 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 4: it's not a great landing spot except for the fact that, 1486 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 4: like Sean Payton when he's at his best levels, the 1487 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 4: entire offense up because of who he is. 1488 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 6: John Payton plus a good offensive line. Is that's it is, like, yeah, like, 1489 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 6: it's not. 1490 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:21,080 Speaker 2: It's not the situation happened with Bryce Young and Carolina 1491 01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 2: because you have coaching that you believe in and maybe 1492 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 2: some structure and the ability to protect. But yeah, this 1493 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 2: is not They're not gonna build Rome in a day here, No, 1494 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 2: it's gonna take time. I just I wonder. 1495 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 5: I'm looking back at the Zach Wilson trade, and I 1496 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 5: know it's just five million dollars, but considering the cap situation, 1497 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,520 Speaker 5: it feels like five million dollars that the Broncos. 1498 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 6: Really didn't Jets are gonna pay. I think a big 1499 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,680 Speaker 6: chunk of that. Okay, well we add and we never 1500 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 6: got to follow up. But that was he did actually 1501 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 6: it was I think, what was it eight million? And 1502 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:51,600 Speaker 6: I think they took on like three and a half 1503 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:51,960 Speaker 6: something like that. 1504 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, well then then three and a half makes 1505 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,240 Speaker 3: me feel better than five. But it's I just don't know. 1506 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 5: It's like a lot because it's a lot to live 1507 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 5: up to, and it feels like considering the way that 1508 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 5: Russ made plays in Spurts. I know Sean Payton and 1509 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,720 Speaker 5: the Broncos weren't necessarily happy with the way that it was, 1510 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 5: but how does a rookie quarterback adjust to those expectations 1511 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 5: that it feels like Sean Payton has for the offense? 1512 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,720 Speaker 5: And if it's not him, how does Zach Wilson? Like, 1513 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 5: how is anybody going to live up to this idea 1514 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 5: of what a quarterback should be in this offense when 1515 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 5: the idea is one of the best people to ever 1516 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 5: play the game at the position. 1517 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 6: Right, I think I think having a coach this great 1518 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,640 Speaker 6: at getting kind of like mid level quarterback talent, which 1519 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,800 Speaker 6: we've seen when Drew Brees wasn't playing for the Saints 1520 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,919 Speaker 6: and even last year, to be productive is great. Plus 1521 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,920 Speaker 6: an offensive line is great, but a defense really helps 1522 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,080 Speaker 6: you out. And I look at their defense. It was 1523 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 6: a bottom five defense in the league last year, and 1524 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 6: I don't really see a ton of reasons to believe 1525 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 6: that they're going to improve significantly. 1526 01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 1: The defending champion Kansas City Chiefs with Mark Sesslin, I think. 1527 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:11,080 Speaker 4: The Chiefs did exactly what the fan base demanded, if 1528 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 4: the fan base is allowed to demand anything at this 1529 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 4: point in time. But they moved up to take the 1530 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,720 Speaker 4: fastest wide receiver in league history, an Xavier Worthy out 1531 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 4: of Texas. They grabbed a tackle Kingsley saw Yama Taya 1532 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,759 Speaker 4: out of BYU in round two. Those were two needs, 1533 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 4: but I really like the Worthy pick. Lance Zerlin described 1534 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:33,000 Speaker 4: this tackle Kingsley as a thick framed gentleman with adequate length. 1535 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,800 Speaker 4: Sounds intriguing, but now look at this off right, But 1536 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:39,879 Speaker 4: now look at this offense. 1537 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,880 Speaker 1: You got worthies four point two one speed. 1538 01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 4: And what I like about it is it takes some 1539 01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,599 Speaker 4: heat off of the concept of Hollywood Brown as being 1540 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 4: whatever would have been in that It's like it's he's 1541 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,080 Speaker 4: an added weapon along with book see where she rice 1542 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,559 Speaker 4: at some stage and all. This makes me kind of think, 1543 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,479 Speaker 4: like after we were wondering if Travis Kelsey, who's just 1544 01:08:58,520 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 4: had his deal extended. 1545 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:00,799 Speaker 1: Was like, this guy gonna retire? 1546 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,200 Speaker 4: Does he look the same, Like it's a good for 1547 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,720 Speaker 4: Travis kelcey two years, two more years, and it's like 1548 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,200 Speaker 4: you got people around him that's going to make like, 1549 01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:08,800 Speaker 4: wait a minute, we got to heal Travis Kelcey on 1550 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 4: top of all this speed, and so I kind of 1551 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 4: just wondered. 1552 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:12,840 Speaker 1: And I feel like I asked this all the time. 1553 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 4: That is like, is the entire regular season just like 1554 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 4: a dog and pony show leading society exactly where we 1555 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 4: know will be come next February, Because I think the 1556 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:23,240 Speaker 4: team got better. 1557 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,480 Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs, despite winning it again two times 1558 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 2: in a row, they've won the Super Bowl, I have 1559 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,600 Speaker 2: questions to answer to me on their offense and the 1560 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,000 Speaker 2: moves that they made make sense. 1561 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 3: They none of them. 1562 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 2: Like, I know, the guy's the fastest guy in the 1563 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 2: combent ever, but I'm not like locking him in as 1564 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,800 Speaker 2: a star and Hollywood Brown has never been a star 1565 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,160 Speaker 2: and Travis kelce Like, let's not forget he looked slower 1566 01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,439 Speaker 2: and older last year, So what version do you get 1567 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 2: of him? So are the Chiefs going to be back 1568 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 2: to their high flying ways? I'm not convinced I'm interested 1569 01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,479 Speaker 2: to see what they look like this year. 1570 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,040 Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of calls for optims because 1571 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,600 Speaker 5: you could consider what are they replacing, right, Like what 1572 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:03,559 Speaker 5: are the departures le various Need of course being a one, Right, 1573 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:07,120 Speaker 5: this is the guy that made plays where they probably 1574 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:08,960 Speaker 5: wouldn't have been in the game in the Super Bowl 1575 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,559 Speaker 5: if not for lagarious needs. So that's the one. But 1576 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 5: other than that, you take MVS and replace him with Worthy. Right, 1577 01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,320 Speaker 5: you've got Hollywood Brown coming in to fill like what 1578 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,559 Speaker 5: you wanted Sky Moore to originally do, and now you 1579 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 5: get a veteran to kind of fill in that spot. 1580 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,880 Speaker 5: You keep Travis Kelcey around, even though it's not really 1581 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 5: an extension. It's essentially just a raise like, Hey, thank 1582 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,640 Speaker 5: you for being Travis Kelcey, which is cool. Shout out 1583 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,920 Speaker 5: out with them, do that for everybody. Yeah, they're the 1584 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,240 Speaker 5: Kansa City Chiefs. They are inevitable. 1585 01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 6: I think Worthy is a more complete player than a 1586 01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,599 Speaker 6: four to two one. Like he was a guy who 1587 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 6: has great movements. Go, he's a small but he landed 1588 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 6: in the spot to make him a star. They have 1589 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 6: more weapons, they have great continuity on defense. I count 1590 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,479 Speaker 6: it up I think they're going to start seven different 1591 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,839 Speaker 6: players from the class of twenty twenty two, which is crazy. 1592 01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,840 Speaker 6: That's how you keep a dynasty going four In the secondary, 1593 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 6: they take this kid, Jayden Hicks, who was very high 1594 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 6: on Dane Brugler's board, in the fourth round. He'll probably 1595 01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,559 Speaker 6: wind up starting. That's the spag secret sauce. 1596 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:08,520 Speaker 1: They have thirteen wide receivers. 1597 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,559 Speaker 2: And to put a bow on what you said, once 1598 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,120 Speaker 2: you get to this level, this rarefied air. Yeah, it's 1599 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,840 Speaker 2: just about getting through the regular season when you're twelve 1600 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:20,439 Speaker 2: or thirteen. 1601 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,360 Speaker 1: Hopefully the quarterback's healthy when you get to January. 1602 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,840 Speaker 6: Well, while we're taking darts here, I saw the report 1603 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,400 Speaker 6: from the Chiefs is Nate Taylor on the Athletic They 1604 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,280 Speaker 6: tried the trade up for Marius Mims. They were trying 1605 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,599 Speaker 6: to get that tackle, so they it's a left tackle 1606 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:37,000 Speaker 6: is a big concern, Sue Matia. You know, he's like 1607 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,080 Speaker 6: that fourteenth tackle off the board. You know, a guy 1608 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:41,640 Speaker 6: might be a little bit of a project. They were 1609 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,160 Speaker 6: hoping to get Maarousmims didn't happen. They wound up its 1610 01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 6: worthy time out. I have a question that that was 1611 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,280 Speaker 6: at the time. Man, we took darts. We were taking 1612 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,599 Speaker 6: darts there. I got a little game for you guys. 1613 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 6: Here you go, all right, go and here you go. 1614 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,080 Speaker 3: Penn. You need a penn, Dan, he's giving us paper. 1615 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,720 Speaker 1: I don't have a pen, so I appreciate that. 1616 01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:05,400 Speaker 3: Okay, good, thank you? All right. 1617 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,599 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh, I mean he's a he's a huge figure. 1618 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:15,840 Speaker 2: It's the dominating figure. Been very busy, been very busy 1619 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 2: over draft week and everything else. Hit the music, Eric, 1620 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,120 Speaker 2: He overshadows everything else. Let me tell me who is 1621 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,000 Speaker 2: the general manager of the Los Angeles Chargers. 1622 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,000 Speaker 1: Joe Horrowitz. I think it is okay, you're just to 1623 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:32,760 Speaker 1: write it on the face. 1624 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,600 Speaker 6: Sorry, okay, Mark was wrong though, so. 1625 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, write it down please, all right, all right, reveal 1626 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:45,879 Speaker 2: your answers. 1627 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,360 Speaker 3: Patrick, Joe Horties, Joe Horties. 1628 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,639 Speaker 1: Oh dang, I had horri Itz. I had Horts too, 1629 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,120 Speaker 1: but you said Horror Horowitz. 1630 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,760 Speaker 2: But I mean it's you know, the correct answer is Hortees. 1631 01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:01,040 Speaker 2: I think Jeopardy rules. Although you guys had the right 1632 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,479 Speaker 2: name in mind, Patrick is the one that gets the credit. 1633 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 2: I think the reason I asked the question is because 1634 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 2: Jim he's the sun there, and it overpowers everything. But 1635 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 2: he was the director player personnel for the Ravens who 1636 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,559 Speaker 2: joined left his brother, Jim's brother. 1637 01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:22,240 Speaker 3: To join the Chargers. Nobody. 1638 01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 2: And with that said, the Chargers, Jim Harbaugh and Joe 1639 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:33,479 Speaker 2: Hortiz had a very busy draft week and offseason. They 1640 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,639 Speaker 2: added nine rookies in the draft another twenty in undrafted 1641 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,960 Speaker 2: free agency per the Athletic. Over the past three months, 1642 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,920 Speaker 2: the Chargers have added thirty nine players to their roster 1643 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:43,559 Speaker 2: who were not on the team in twenty twenty three. 1644 01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 2: Joe Alt awesome, big guess, big piece statement pick by 1645 01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:53,000 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh. You know, a generationally talented tackle by a 1646 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,759 Speaker 2: coach who calls these guys skill players. 1647 01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:55,880 Speaker 3: He views them that way. 1648 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 2: The offensive line and running back room has been rebooted. 1649 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,519 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert loses Mike Williams and Keenan Allen, but gained 1650 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:07,240 Speaker 2: Lad McConkie this over the weekend. And they have a 1651 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,640 Speaker 2: I have like a sneaky, promising tight end pairing and 1652 01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:11,720 Speaker 2: will Disley and Hayden Hurst kind of like both those 1653 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 2: guys and now they're at tandem. My big question, Okay, 1654 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,439 Speaker 2: and you have Greg Romans the offensive corner that guy 1655 01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:21,880 Speaker 2: loves running the football. How Harbor is Harbaugh gonna go 1656 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:26,200 Speaker 2: with the Los Angeles Harbaugh's I'm sure Justin Herbert has 1657 01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:26,920 Speaker 2: the same question. 1658 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,679 Speaker 1: Hmm. I see. 1659 01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 4: I think there's there's increasing versatility here because Ladd McConkie, 1660 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,240 Speaker 4: I think, is just an awesome pick and they spoke 1661 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 4: so highly of him and how he can help Justin Herbert. 1662 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:38,800 Speaker 1: So that's through the air. 1663 01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:40,800 Speaker 4: Joe Alt is someone who looks to me like it 1664 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,840 Speaker 4: came from like biblical times and like fought kids with slingshots. 1665 01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:46,120 Speaker 1: Junior Colson. 1666 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:47,800 Speaker 4: I thought we're gonna take a bunch of Michigan guys, 1667 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,920 Speaker 4: but like he's someone that wore like the green dot 1668 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,640 Speaker 4: for Michigan and can lead a new defense and he 1669 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:53,479 Speaker 4: knows it really well. 1670 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,599 Speaker 1: So these are fits that I think improved. 1671 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,479 Speaker 4: But how hardly goes like, are we gonna suddenly see 1672 01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,240 Speaker 4: Justin Herbert vanish as a passer? 1673 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,800 Speaker 3: That's what I mean. I just curious how they're gonna 1674 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:02,800 Speaker 3: do this on offense scheme? 1675 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:07,080 Speaker 4: Well, just being overstated, because that's an impossibility in today's NFL, 1676 01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,320 Speaker 4: where you're gonna suddenly take Justin Herbert and have him 1677 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,920 Speaker 4: play like half of the position that any quarterback was 1678 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:12,360 Speaker 4: playing well. 1679 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,680 Speaker 6: Also, their running backs are Dobbins and Gus Edwards. Just 1680 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,400 Speaker 6: you know, if Dobbins can get healthy again is intriguing 1681 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,880 Speaker 6: ravens you but it is, you know, you're also asked, 1682 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 6: I don't love that. You know, everyone's so excited about Joe. 1683 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,080 Speaker 6: I'm sure he's gonna be great, But the first thing 1684 01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,599 Speaker 6: you do is make him play a position right tackle 1685 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,840 Speaker 6: that he's never played before. That at LEAs should be noted. 1686 01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 6: I mean they know what they're doing, obviously more than I. 1687 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,479 Speaker 6: But like that has worked plenty of times, work with pens, 1688 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 6: Like you know, it doesn't always work. 1689 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,880 Speaker 5: I think we could expect to see some interesting route combinations, 1690 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 5: some receivers in close proximity to each other, you know, 1691 01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 5: diminished numbers for Justin Herbert and a team that we've 1692 01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,840 Speaker 5: seen it happen before. A new coach comes in and 1693 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:53,599 Speaker 5: you get a mix of the old guys as well 1694 01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,680 Speaker 5: as the new guys, and something does for him that 1695 01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,080 Speaker 5: I think the Chargers will be better than Herbert with 1696 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,800 Speaker 5: literally no hands last year towards the end of the year. 1697 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,439 Speaker 5: But I think the hardball ceiling isn't going to be reached. 1698 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:10,600 Speaker 6: But like coaching plus offensive line plus quarterback is like 1699 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,599 Speaker 6: more important than the weapons. Like for like those years 1700 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,559 Speaker 6: that Tom Brady didn't have any wide receivers, we kind 1701 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 6: of learned like you can still have a great offense 1702 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,759 Speaker 6: if you have great coaching, great offensive line, great quarterback. 1703 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,879 Speaker 3: Tom Brady all time great quarterback. 1704 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,080 Speaker 4: Right, they had the worst one turb blocking grade in 1705 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:25,000 Speaker 4: the NFL a year ago. 1706 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:25,800 Speaker 1: That's gonna change. 1707 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 2: Let's close it out with the Las Vegas Raiders and 1708 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:30,960 Speaker 2: Patrick claybo. 1709 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:34,360 Speaker 5: The Las Vegas Raiders I believe wanted a quarterback. They 1710 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 5: go into the draft and they see literally every quarterback 1711 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,479 Speaker 5: go before them. They both assuming have some calls about 1712 01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 5: training up. It doesn't ultimately work out because the Falcons 1713 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,519 Speaker 5: take their future quarterback for some reason at number eight. 1714 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,680 Speaker 5: I think that they liked him too, and so I 1715 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,880 Speaker 5: think they got a great pick in brock Bauers. I 1716 01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,200 Speaker 5: think taking the best player on the board is always 1717 01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,840 Speaker 5: a very good idea. But it's gonna come down to 1718 01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,800 Speaker 5: Aid and O'Connell as well as Gardner Minshew, and that 1719 01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,960 Speaker 5: will be the camp battle. Well, at what point do 1720 01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,960 Speaker 5: the Las Vegas Raiders look outside of the building to 1721 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:12,560 Speaker 5: bring in somebody that keeps everything from falling apart and 1722 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,280 Speaker 5: DeVante being like why am I playing football? 1723 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:15,599 Speaker 3: Still? 1724 01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this was like they got left out 1725 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,599 Speaker 4: on draft day and I know they love brock Bowers 1726 01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,679 Speaker 4: and there's nothing not to like. Like I don't dislike 1727 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,680 Speaker 4: that pick on any level, but it's like, you know, 1728 01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,479 Speaker 4: it's it's a new coach, but this gets coach as 1729 01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,400 Speaker 4: fires when you think in like May or April May, 1730 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 4: you can roll into an NFL campaign with these two 1731 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,000 Speaker 4: quarterbacks because it's about it's about midway through the second 1732 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:40,760 Speaker 4: half that you realize that plans a disaster of the 1733 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:41,240 Speaker 4: first game. 1734 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,880 Speaker 1: And so you mentioned Ryan Tannehill. Someone liked it. 1735 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,840 Speaker 4: If you just want like a veteran who can come 1736 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,560 Speaker 4: in and like spice things up, I think that's a 1737 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,600 Speaker 4: good landing spot. But Minshew we just talked about with 1738 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 4: the cults like he is a you know, he's a 1739 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,559 Speaker 4: fringe starter, but like that kind of team last year 1740 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:55,440 Speaker 4: with Minshew. 1741 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,080 Speaker 3: It's a bridge guy. Yeah, yeah, we just don't know 1742 01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:58,240 Speaker 3: where the bridge is going right now. 1743 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:02,320 Speaker 6: Minshew is there? Tannehill? So I've been thinking about it again. 1744 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 6: It's like they gave him fifteen million dollars guaranteed. They 1745 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,680 Speaker 6: gave him a sneaky amount of money. They did not 1746 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,360 Speaker 6: sign him to like a Baker Mayfield in Tampa. 1747 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:11,679 Speaker 1: Just let's see what happens. 1748 01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,280 Speaker 6: Back of Gondrum, they gave him like, hey, you're probably 1749 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 6: gonna play for us, and Aidan O'Connell was, Okay, I 1750 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,080 Speaker 6: don't think this is gonna work out. They wanted Michael 1751 01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:23,920 Speaker 6: Pennix junior our James Palmer, our guy. He reported they 1752 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:25,280 Speaker 6: were one of the teams that tried to trade up 1753 01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,840 Speaker 6: for a quarterback and it was gonna be Pennix and 1754 01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,080 Speaker 6: it didn't happen for him, and they ended up with Bowers, 1755 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,600 Speaker 6: who the Saints Block Party podcast reported the Saints were 1756 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,280 Speaker 6: gonna take out fourteen. So I love these like paths 1757 01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,760 Speaker 6: not taken, but the Raiders ends up taking Bowers. 1758 01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,519 Speaker 2: I think one thing that's maybe slept on a little bit. 1759 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,680 Speaker 2: I think Raiders fans, whether or not he's a high 1760 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,360 Speaker 2: level quarterback, are gonna love Gardner Minshew. He plays with 1761 01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,920 Speaker 2: a lot of pluck and moxie. He fits there kind 1762 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,960 Speaker 2: of like got some Ken Stabler in him, and I 1763 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,840 Speaker 2: think that's that's going to be. They're gonna have fun 1764 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,880 Speaker 2: rooting for him, it's just you know what, how much 1765 01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:58,800 Speaker 2: can he actually give you? 1766 01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:03,639 Speaker 6: Antonio Pierce has been very vocal saying we're gonna run 1767 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,360 Speaker 6: the ball and we're gonna be a great defense, and 1768 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,880 Speaker 6: I believe that's his vision. Like whether that works or not, 1769 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,439 Speaker 6: like we'll see. But Bowers to me fits that vision, 1770 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,439 Speaker 6: playing two tight ends as your basse set him and 1771 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,719 Speaker 6: Mayor having multiplicity, and they really think the defensive improvements 1772 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:19,639 Speaker 6: they had will carry over. 1773 01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:21,760 Speaker 4: Will that's when you survive in your own division though, 1774 01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,080 Speaker 4: because it's just like how you know you should build 1775 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,120 Speaker 4: to beat teams in your own division first, and they 1776 01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:27,960 Speaker 4: don't resemble that kind of a team to me right now. 1777 01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 6: Sign Michael Gallup on Tuesday official run of the show. 1778 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 3: Is he best friend? Yeah? He was on the show. 1779 01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,599 Speaker 1: Very nice guy, not an enemy of the show. 1780 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,240 Speaker 2: But I don't recall, Yes, you're right, I forgot that 1781 01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,000 Speaker 2: we from Cowboys friendship with him. In fact, everyone we 1782 01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,360 Speaker 2: sat down with at Cowboys camp. 1783 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 3: Was cursed as a result, Layton Vandre. 1784 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,160 Speaker 2: Michael Gallup, and I think even the voice of the 1785 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,720 Speaker 2: Cowboys didn't he miss some time? Let me yeah, right 1786 01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,840 Speaker 2: etp Yeah, I forget what I think he fell down 1787 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,960 Speaker 2: to illness. He's gone no, not gone right, but he did. 1788 01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,240 Speaker 2: He did miss a game for the first time in 1789 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:14,000 Speaker 2: like a very long time. I remember seeing that because 1790 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,160 Speaker 2: we play their highlights. Obviously, Brad Sham the sham God 1791 01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,360 Speaker 2: has missed games due to an illness. 1792 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:25,479 Speaker 6: So he was forced to announce yet another playoff defeat 1793 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:26,839 Speaker 6: to the Green Bay Packers. 1794 01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,320 Speaker 3: So that I'm sure was Brad Sham the sham God. 1795 01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,960 Speaker 2: I fell ill and en route to the game, I 1796 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,040 Speaker 2: was advised to get it checked out, testing and resting 1797 01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,920 Speaker 2: looking forward to next week. That was December first, and 1798 01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,840 Speaker 2: we're very happy that sham God is on the mend, 1799 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,920 Speaker 2: and we're not making light of illness, and we never 1800 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,679 Speaker 2: would Greg. However, I'm just stating the point that everyone 1801 01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:51,280 Speaker 2: that sat down with us in August of twenty three, 1802 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,000 Speaker 2: you know it didn't work out. Connect dots right, sure, 1803 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,679 Speaker 2: which leads me to my next point that we will 1804 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,880 Speaker 2: hope to take a summer road trip this summer to 1805 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:03,400 Speaker 2: visit a team, and hopefully. 1806 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,679 Speaker 1: It's not yours. 1807 01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,799 Speaker 6: Saints are coming to Irvine spending tranny camp in southern California. 1808 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:11,720 Speaker 2: That's a little What does the Saints block party think 1809 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,839 Speaker 2: about that us coming with the the cursed Medallion of ATN. 1810 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:17,599 Speaker 3: They don't need it, they don't want it. 1811 01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:19,839 Speaker 4: I'd keep us out of there if you were interested 1812 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,080 Speaker 4: in the same other fortunes. 1813 01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 2: You probably know this one, Mark, remember the Brady Bunch 1814 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,120 Speaker 2: episode with the medallion when they went to Hawaii. 1815 01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, two parter Bad Beat, two part episode Bad Beat 1816 01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,120 Speaker 4: and one of the rare like you don't get Brady 1817 01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,760 Speaker 4: Bunch episodes that were filmed literally on location outside of 1818 01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,960 Speaker 4: a stet like a set in like Studio City or 1819 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,479 Speaker 4: something like that. So right, an atypical Brady Bunch double 1820 01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:42,519 Speaker 4: two parter Greg. 1821 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,120 Speaker 3: Brady Bunch was a sitcom in. 1822 01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:45,840 Speaker 1: I remember that. 1823 01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,400 Speaker 6: I remember the repeats where were on. I did not 1824 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,680 Speaker 6: check them out. It was a teeky neck time tough one. 1825 01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,400 Speaker 2: It really wasn't because Brady Bunch was massive in the 1826 01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 2: eighties and syndication. But you didn't have to watch it. 1827 01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 2: They don't have to watch anyone have to watch it. 1828 01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,080 Speaker 2: I mean, we don't have to read the newsletter going 1829 01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 2: around Patrick's clay Patrick Clayvin's neighborhood. 1830 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:05,880 Speaker 3: But it's out there. 1831 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,600 Speaker 1: I made it in your face. 1832 01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,320 Speaker 6: Decision which I look back on as the correct one 1833 01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,040 Speaker 6: to dedicate my time to other programming. 1834 01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:14,479 Speaker 3: Let's hear it like a good call. 1835 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:19,120 Speaker 6: Let's uh cheers repeats The Ricky Lake Show was. 1836 01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,480 Speaker 3: Into that, Sally justse Rafael. 1837 01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:26,000 Speaker 1: Got not really but here and there number. 1838 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,640 Speaker 2: That's a good one actually for the people like in 1839 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,479 Speaker 2: our age, What were the syndicated seventies eighties shows that 1840 01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,679 Speaker 2: you were watching that maybe weren't out when you were kids. 1841 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,400 Speaker 2: For me, it was Brady Bunch. It was different strokes. 1842 01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:44,760 Speaker 2: I watched every weekday at five kid. But oh that's right. 1843 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:49,320 Speaker 4: My screenwriting teacher created different strokes. That's why he was in. 1844 01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,439 Speaker 4: Did you see in Park his rolls Royce before he 1845 01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,000 Speaker 4: came in. I think he did very well. 1846 01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,200 Speaker 6: I'm sure a lot of MTV now that was probably 1847 01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,880 Speaker 6: no Alternative Nation talking like. 1848 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,719 Speaker 3: That era, like niked Knight, like Bewitched, Dick Van. 1849 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,360 Speaker 1: Dykereeze Company, good times. 1850 01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:10,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, we've made Patrick late for his Oh Patrick, we apologize. 1851 01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:14,080 Speaker 2: Thank you to everybody for listening. We'll be back Thursday 1852 01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,719 Speaker 2: with a special guest. This is still on right, Yes. 1853 01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:21,400 Speaker 2: Jordan Rodrieg of the Athletic does an excellent job covering 1854 01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,120 Speaker 2: all matters of football, including the Los Angeles rams. She'll 1855 01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,000 Speaker 2: be joining us to go around the NFC, including those rams. 1856 01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,519 Speaker 2: But thank you Patrick. Anything else to add Ah? 1857 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, momentum might not be real, but you are no 1858 01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:35,040 Speaker 5: matter what anybody says, no matter what I say, you 1859 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:36,160 Speaker 5: and your existence are true. 1860 01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:43,759 Speaker 1: Patrick of a thanks guys, Eric, give him the goddamn applause. 1861 01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,599 Speaker 3: Applause for it, don't applause for me? Where is that 1862 01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:48,439 Speaker 3: button on your. 1863 01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,680 Speaker 2: Applause is a long word to type out, So when 1864 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,599 Speaker 2: I search things, it's about clap. Change it to clap. Okay, 1865 01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,760 Speaker 2: you know, applause is the one that tends to give 1866 01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,439 Speaker 2: me trouble the most. Thank you, Patrick, and be careful 1867 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,920 Speaker 2: in your hood until then. Everyone, uh check us out 1868 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:09,160 Speaker 2: Thursday for the NFC. And you know what you gotta do? 1869 01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:10,519 Speaker 2: Do you want to tell the people today? Greg? 1870 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 3: What do they need to do? Right on your arm? 1871 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:14,439 Speaker 3: Let me just take what of the seat? 1872 01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, heat the call bang,