1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Tyler dons time to do for time. Hey, welcome to 2 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: the show. Welcome to Friday, last day of the week, 3 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: last day of the week before training camp begins. We 4 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: are six days away from the Bills twenty nineteen training camp. 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: They open it up next Thursday at Saint John Fisher 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: College in Rochester. Where a couple of weeks away from 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: the practice at the stadium that's coming up on the 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: Friday second, a couple of weeks away from that right 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: there in newer Field. Welcome to the show, everybody. I'm 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: John Murphy Steve Tasker off today and joining us co 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: host for the second straight day from Bleacher Report from 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: a Buffalo News Bills beat reporter covered the Packers for 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Happy to have Tyler dunback the thck. 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: Your back means you must have enjoyed yesterday. Oh absolutely, man, 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: that was a fun time. What's fun. Let's keep doing it. 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: It's great to have you here. Thanks for coming by. 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: Tyler is with us here today as we talk about 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: the Bills in the NFL. Got a good show coming up. 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Greg Cosell, a usual Friday guest of hours during the 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: regular season, going to join us today. You know Greg, 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: you know who he is at least right, Oh, one 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: of the best at breaking down the excess and knows 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm sure I'll have a lot to say 24 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: on Josh Allen. Probably can forecast the future better than weekends. Yeah, 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: he's done a lot of work on Josh Allen, he 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: tells us in the last weeks and months. And we're 27 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: gonna dive into that where Greg Cosell he'll be joining 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: us today at one o'clock. A little bit of news 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: today around the Bills in the NFL. The news around 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: the Bills. A switch at safety. Rafael Bush has decided 31 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: to retire, just less than a week before training camp opens. 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: Rafael Bush, a veteran who played in fifteen games seven 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: starts last year for the Bills, has elected to retire. 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: He even got to play little nickel corner last year 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: when the Bills were in a pinch. He was in 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: a sub package role, seventh on the team with forty 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: four tackles last year. He's played for five NFL teams 38 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: in his career, Atlanta, Denver, Detroit, and New Orleans, and 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: looted a nine year run. Undrafted player Raphael Bush has 40 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 1: decided to call it a career. He has decided to retire, 41 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: and the Bill's ready with the replacement, and a notable replacement. 42 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: Kurk Coleman goes into his tenth year in the league. 43 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: He's thirty one years old. He's played in one hundred 44 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: thirty two games over his NFL career, eighty three starts 45 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: played last year at sixteen games, nine starts for the 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. Now, you know, the Bills are pretty 47 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: good at safety, but Tyler kirk Coleman would be an 48 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: interesting guy to keep an eye on. I would think 49 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: once camp begins, Uh yeah, I mean if something were 50 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: to happen to Micah Hyde or Jordan Porrier, I think 51 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott would want somebody that knows his defense to 52 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: step right in and not miss a beat. So, you know, 53 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: who better than somebody who's been in his scheme before 54 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: on multiple teams I think right Philadelphia and Carolina, so 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: he's really familiar with what McDermot likes to do back there, 56 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: and you know, you're not really you know, throwing somebody 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: out there doesn't know what the heck they're doing. If 58 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: that were to happen. Yeah, the report is a one 59 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: year deal worth about a million dollars, So obviously it's 60 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: a it's a bargain price for a guy going into 61 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: his tenth year. Kirk Coleman, as Tyler said, it appears 62 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: he was broke into the league with the Philadelphia Eagles. 63 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: He was a draft pick of the Philadelphia Eagles back 64 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: in two ten, which with Sean mcdermot's final year. Coleman 65 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: was the seventh round pick in two thousand and ten, 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: that would have been Sean mcdermot's final year with the 67 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, and then a couple of years after that, 68 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: Coleman moved on to play with the Carolina Panthers with 69 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: Sean McDermot the defense coordinator there two fifteen through two 70 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: seventeen to strong safety. His size five eleven, two hundred 71 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: eight pounds, a veteran. As we said, going into his 72 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: tenth year, we'll see how it plays out. Does he 73 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: make contributions on special teams? Does he get a chance 74 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: to be a backup? Certainly a qualified backup, But he's 75 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 1: down in the street a week before camp begins, which 76 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: leads you to believe that you know, his stock was 77 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: not extremely high around the NFL, Right, Yeah, I mean 78 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: probably there's a reason he wasn't on a team, you know, 79 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: for much of this offseason, pretty much the entire off season. 80 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: But he is somebody who had I think seven interceptions 81 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. That was when the Panthers made that 82 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: run to the Super Bowl. So around the ball can 83 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: make plays. Now, that was what four years ago at 84 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: this point, so they'll see what he has left. I mean, 85 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: thirty one years old. I think it's a one year deal. 86 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: You're not, you know, signing this guy to some five 87 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: six year extension making some huge investment. It's basically a 88 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: player you trust that you hope you don't really need 89 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: to use that much. Three interceptions just looking at his 90 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: bio here, three interceptions in one game for the Eagles 91 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: back in twenty eleven, a victory at Washington. Sixteen playoff appearances, 92 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: nine starts. Much of that, I'm sorry, not that playoff appearances. 93 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: Let me read that again. I've lost it. But he 94 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: did play in the playoffs, eight playoff games, a ton 95 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: of playoff experience, which is obviously they had to like here. Yeah, 96 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: Ohio State product Kurt Coleman is now with the Buffalo Bills. 97 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: Raphael Bush is out, and the timing of the move 98 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: is interesting. I mean, obviously the Bills have had what 99 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: a month, almost five weeks since they're lass Minicam practice, 100 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: calm and available. Then they got to look at Rafael Bush. 101 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: You never know how these things work out. Maybe Busch 102 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: came to them and said, look, I didn't feel good 103 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: this spring with what how I was playing. It's time 104 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: for me to move on. I mean it could have 105 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: gone like that, right, Yeah, we talked about it yesterday 106 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: a little bit, John, like, these are good problems to 107 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: have if you're the Bills, if this is the whole 108 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: you need to fill this time of year. I mean, 109 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: I can remember a few years back Rex Ryan's first year, 110 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, him and Doug Whaley kind of plotting and scheming, 111 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, in Pittsford the night we saw him out 112 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: the night before, they're clearly talking about I canon Poley. 113 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: The next day they signed him and they're hoping he 114 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: ignites the pass rush. I mean that was kind of 115 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: a scramble mode. It seemed to just find somebody to 116 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: ignite a pass rush. It. I don't think the Bills 117 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: defense right now was in that situation where they need 118 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: to really scour the waiver wire for somebody they absolutely 119 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: need to perform and produce. Yeah, it's probably a good 120 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: problem to have if you're scrambling for a third, fourth safety. 121 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: They might not even need that much. Tell me that story. 122 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: I never heard the story about Rex. Where did you 123 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: see him pitt Yeah, the means somebuddy's you know, covering 124 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: the team. We're out at the Pittsburgh Pub there, so 125 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: you know where they pretended we didn't exist. We didn't 126 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: talk to Rex and Doug Whaley that night, but they 127 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: were off in a corner and clearly talking about something 128 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: really serious. It was just a one on one conversation 129 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: and it you know, we're kind of thinking to ourselves, 130 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: you know what's going on. I was just out with 131 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: Microadack Matt Faber and I believe, you know a couple 132 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: of guys that will cover the team. I should say, 133 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: Matt does and uh lo and behold. The next day, 134 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, that was a bombshell in the NFL. I mean, 135 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: obviously I can and Polly had just slugged his own 136 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: quarterback in the face, Gino Smith, and nobody in the 137 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: league would touch him with a ten foot poll and 138 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: here's Rex swooping in and not only did they sign him, 139 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean they you know that year, but really I 140 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: think it even was into the following year. We're really 141 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: kind of counting on him as a player they would 142 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: actually need. It didn't get much fun and they didn't 143 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: get anything at all. No, Yeah, yeah, okay, I never 144 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: heard that story. That's a good story. Pittsford Pub, that's 145 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: where that's where things go down, right, went down back then, 146 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: it did back then probably now. Hey, welcome to the show. 147 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: Greg Davy with us. Tyler done us with us today 148 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: in place of Steve Tasker, who returns on Monday. We're 149 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: going live at training camp next Thursday, ninety five am 150 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: practice on Thursday morning at Saint John Fisher College, the 151 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: first training camp practice of the year, and we'll be 152 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: there from noon to three to recap that first day. 153 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: We'll be there over the next couple of weeks before 154 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 1: we go to Carolina Spartanburg, South Carolina for those bills 155 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: practices with the Carolina Panthers. So welcome to the show. 156 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: As we said, Great co Salt Did I say that already? 157 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: Great co Salt? You say it again, Great co Sell 158 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: is going to join the same time class. Yeah, good guests. 159 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: He's one of our best guests and he's done a 160 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: lot of breakdown. As we said on Josh Allen, We'll 161 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,559 Speaker 1: talk to him about that. It's not all about Josh Allen, 162 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: not all about the Bills, and this is why it's 163 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: great to have Tyler in here with us today. We 164 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: can take a look at the rest of the NFL, 165 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: including the AFC East, and that gets us to our 166 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: Twitter question today. It is about the AFC East and obviously, 167 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: with the total of six games against AFC East opponents, 168 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: they make up the bulk of the Bills schedule and 169 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: really some of the key games of the Bill schedule. 170 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: Want to get your thoughts on what's going on, Tyler's 171 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: and yours in the audience, what's going on in the 172 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: AFC East, and maybe some of the important questions going 173 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: on around the league about the AFC East. It's a 174 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: Twitter question, not a poll. Today. We can take your 175 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: responses on the telephone line at eight oh three five 176 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one eight eight eight 177 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty, or take them on Twitter. 178 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: Part of our tweet sheet. Will get to those a 179 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: little bit later on. So outside of the Buffalo bills. 180 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: What's the biggest question mark in the AFC East. We 181 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: know all the bills issues, right, we talk about them 182 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: every day, we have for months. But outside of the bills, 183 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: what's the biggest question mark in the AFC East. I 184 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: think it's a I think it's an intriguing division. Although 185 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: for years now, Tyler, it's been the Patriots and a 186 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: bunch of also rands. Most people expect that trend to 187 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: continue this year. Do you do you think it's the 188 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: Patriots win it and everybody else buys for second place. 189 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: You see the division like that, I do, And you know, 190 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: we're a broken record here, but until Tom Brady retires 191 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: at this point that that's just the reality of it, 192 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: and it's an uphill battle that Brandon being and Sean 193 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: McDermott absolutely knew they would be facing it until Tom 194 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: Brady retires. And you know, I think that we started 195 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: to see the signs, everybody started to see the signs 196 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: last year of some decline in Brady. You knows, midway 197 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: through the season. I think in the December we did 198 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: a round table piece at Bleach Report. I talked to 199 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: you know, Warren Moon, Joe Thism and Drew bled, so 200 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of these former quarterbacks, Trent Green, Darren Woodson 201 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: a dB just to try to figure that out, like, 202 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: are we starting to see those signs? I mean, Warren 203 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: Moon was pretty blunt and said, yeah, that you are 204 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: seeing a decline and it's gradual and once you start 205 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: to lose it, you can't get it back. Lo and 206 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: behold the Patriots do what they do. I mean, they 207 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: just kind of adapted on the fly. They started running 208 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: the ball more, their defense started improving, and and Tom 209 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: Brady made the plays he had to make to beat 210 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs in that AFC Championship game, 211 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: and obviously the defense was outstanding in the Super Bowl. 212 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: So I think as a team, they just they just 213 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: kind of find a way to constantly change their identity, 214 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: tweaked their identity, I should say. And even without Rob Gronkhouse, Yeah, 215 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: I think they find a way to do it again. 216 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: I mean, all the running backs that they have that 217 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: they get, they still Julian Edelman, they still have these weapons. 218 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: Hey Josh Gordon, I wouldn't forget about him quite yet either. 219 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: It's sad for people here in Western New York, but 220 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: that's the reality. It's the Patriots and everybody else. What 221 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: are the questions, if any, about the New England Patriots. 222 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: I have a couple and number one paramount question I 223 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: think is where is Brady Is? Are his skills declining? 224 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: I think if you watch last year, you could say 225 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: that's likely to be the case that his skills are declining? 226 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: But to what extent, I guess would be the big question? Right? 227 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: And how much doesn't matter when they can switch gears 228 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: and get to a strong running game the way they 229 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: did last year? How do they hear a couple of 230 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: Patriots question? I want to get yours too on this, Tyler, Yeah, Brady, 231 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: you know, where is he and in his professional life 232 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: as far as skills set? And how do they placed Gronkowski? 233 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: There's nobody like him, nobody like him on their roster 234 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: or anybody Else's never has been somebody quite liked him 235 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: actually a matter of fact in the NFL. And you know, 236 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: those would be the two paramount questions for me about 237 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: the Patriots. What about you? What do you think about 238 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: when you wonder and I'm sure you do wonder about 239 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: the Patriots this year? Right? I mean that's number one 240 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: is Tom Brady and is he's still Tom Brady? And 241 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: if you were to talk to people in his inner circle, 242 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: they obviously would say yes. Tom House, his personal quarterback 243 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: coach guru who's been around a ton of quarterbacks in 244 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: the league. When we talked, he said, look, we've done studies, 245 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: We've we've broken it down to his science. That the 246 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: things that I've measured with his velocity haven't changed. He 247 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: insists that Tom Brady can still sling it. Now. The 248 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: film does suggest that, you know, maybe he's not exactly 249 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: throwing at twenty yards on a rope on a deep 250 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: out there. There's just certain routes, so he probably can't 251 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: convert that he used to because he's getting older. But 252 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to it here and say that Tom 253 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: Brady's getting older. Brady's strength has always been his head 254 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: and not his arm. I mean, totally ever been confused 255 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: as a pinpoint. Oh yeah, great passer can make every 256 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: throw a big, strong arm. Nobody's ever thought of him 257 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: like that. I think it's his command of the offense 258 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: and what he knows about, you know, taking advantage of 259 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: defensive weaknesses that um maybe are his biggest asset. Certainly 260 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: he's got more than adequate arm, a pretty good arm, 261 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: and a hass had one. But and I don't know 262 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: how much slipid you could expect it on a mental 263 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: capacity from a guy who works as hard as he 264 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: does and puts it as much time as he appears 265 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: to and lets us know that he does right. He 266 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: wants encyclopedia of knowledge man, unlike anybody in the game. 267 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: And I thought that Matt Hasselbag kind of put it 268 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: best for this this piece I was just talking about 269 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: where he gets inside of your head. It's like he 270 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: turns it into a mind game out there where in 271 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: his words, it becomes he burned us on the blitz 272 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: that one time we can't bullets him, and then defensive 273 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: stop blitz in him and he picks you apart. Anyways, 274 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: It's like he constantly has you on your toes and 275 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: you don't really know how to defend him. And they 276 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: still have weapons around him. These aren't chumps that are 277 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: a receiver at running back. They've got talents around Tom Brady. Yeah, 278 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: there is championship calibrup talent there as well. Replacing Gronkowski 279 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: a problem for the Patriots, an issue for the Patriots. 280 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: What do you think. I'd say yes, But in twenty sixteen, 281 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: Gronk played what eight games, and that might have been 282 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: the best team of the decade. We were sitting here 283 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: with Steve Tasker a couple of weeks ago. I think 284 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: they were on that list of one of the best 285 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: teams ever. They you know, it was the twenty eight 286 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: to three comeback. Obviously they found a way to win 287 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: without him, adapt without him, I mean Julian Edelman. If 288 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: they were to lose Julian Edelman, I think then then 289 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: it's a big problem, right because then that's another big 290 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: time security blanket that Tom Brady trust, that big time producer, 291 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: a big time producer. But Nikkil Harry's around now. You know, 292 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: they drafted receiver in the first round. They like Philip 293 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: dor said a lot. I'm not ready to say that 294 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: this offense is going to be a heck of a 295 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: lot worse without Gronk, But he's a Hall of Fame player. 296 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the best tight end ever, you know, 297 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: one of the best tight ends ever. So it definitely 298 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: doesn't help, not a difference a little bit. Outside of 299 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: the Bills. What's the biggest question mark in the AFC? 300 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: Each we'd love to hear from you. Bone lines open 301 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: eight oh three h five fifty toll free one eight 302 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty sending a tweet 303 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,599 Speaker 1: at one Bills Live. We might read it on the 304 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: tweet sheet. Let's go to the Dolphins, I guess, go 305 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: to the bottom of the expected bottom of the AFC East. 306 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: Biggest question mark for them is it, in fact, who's 307 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: going to play quarterback? Rosen or Fits. It's a good question. 308 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: It's a question that has some residence here in Buffalo 309 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: because we know Ryan Fitzpatricks so well. We know about 310 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick's history of just being the guy. Even if you 311 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: know if they start the season with Josh Rosen, does 312 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: anybody doubt that fitz will get his starts at some 313 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: point during the season. Of course he will. And of 314 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: course there's Rosen, two first round pick, pretty high pick 315 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: a year ago, who had less than stellar results in Arizona. 316 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: But I don't I don't think anybody's smart is writing 317 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: him off as a prospect. I mean, shoot, there was 318 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: they were legions of Bills fans who thought the Bills 319 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: made a mistake by passing Rosen to get Josh Allen 320 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: but it is an intriguing question which way they go. 321 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: New head coach down there as well in Flores But 322 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how that's gonna shake out. Maybe that's 323 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: the biggest question about the Dolphins. What do you see? Yeah, 324 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean they're definitely rebuilding. They're kind of where the 325 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: Bills were a couple of years ago and trying to 326 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: just start from the bottom get the players that they 327 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: want to get. I don't know if Josh Rosen is 328 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: the answer. I like what they did, though, I mean 329 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: they they kind of just stumbled into that, right. I mean, 330 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: they can't control what happens with their team's Arizona Cardinals. 331 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: That they loved Kyler Murray, that it made Josh Rosen 332 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: expendable and didn't give up a bunch to get them. No, 333 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: they didn't give up much at all. I kind of 334 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: love the trade. If it doesn't work out, it's it's 335 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: a second round pick. It's not like they had to 336 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: invest a top five franchise quarterback this capital into into 337 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: a player where you know your entire front office is 338 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: going to get fired if this player doesn't work out. 339 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: If Josh Rosen doesn't work out, Now everybody's gonna keep 340 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: their jobs, and there's a lot to like. I mean, 341 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: out of all those quarterbacks in that dreft, just in 342 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: terms of the college production, he more than anybody just 343 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: produced in big time moments. I mean late in the 344 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, pressure in his face, needing to stick a 345 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: throw with, you know, all the pressure in the world 346 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: on his shoulders. He produced. I think there's a lot 347 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: to love there. But he was not good last year, 348 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: as you know to John doesn't really have a lot 349 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: of round in Miami too. I mean, this is a 350 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: pretty weak supporting cast, so it could be rough and 351 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: it probably doesn't even matter if it's Fitzpatrick or Rosen 352 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, Dolphins should be okay defensively, I would 353 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: think with the defensive minded head coach in coach Flora's 354 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: first round draft pick Christian Wilkins highly regarded defensive lineman, 355 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: and the back end is good. Xavian Howard had a 356 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: great year for the Dolphins last year. And make it, 357 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick had a good first year their first round pick 358 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: a year ago. I don't know if that's enough to 359 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, generate more than a half dozen wins down there. 360 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: You forgot Buffalo fan favorite Keiko. Everybody loves him here, right. 361 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: I always like Kiko. They did. I don't like the 362 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: way he's played the last couple of years. You know, 363 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: at the it's a decent player. I think he got worse. 364 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, that secondary is really good. You're right, Yeah, 365 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: I mean Minca Fitzpatrick, that was a player they pinpointed 366 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: their scouting department for for a long long time. There's 367 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: a great piece on Yeah who Sports Pete Thamil had 368 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: some access to their scouting staff for a while leading 369 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: up to that pick folks to check it out. So yeah, 370 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: I mean that could be enough to steal a game 371 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: here and there. I mean, we always know that the 372 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: Patriots struggle in Miami for whatever reason. So yeah, mate, 373 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: this is just a team in transition. I think the 374 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: expectations are as low in Miami as they possibly could 375 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: be for any team in the league. I agree talking 376 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: about the biggest question marks in the AFC East. We'll 377 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: get your input on this as well as after Tyler 378 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: and I go through it. One more team to look at, 379 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: the New York Jets, and maybe more than any year 380 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: I can recall in recent memory. Anyway, Tyler, the Bill's 381 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: Jets matchup is extremely intriguing. It's great the way the 382 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: schedules set up game one and game sixteen, that's great. 383 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: Start with them, test yourself against the Jets, and then 384 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: finish up with them. Maybe December twenty ninth. You're playing 385 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: a real meaningful game, maybe for a playoff spot. There's that. 386 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: There's the first round quarterbacks from each of them, right, 387 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: just a couple of picks apart Sam Darnold in New 388 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: York and of course Josh Allen here. There's there's other 389 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: things going on. Quinnon Williams, one of the top draft 390 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: picks this year who was yet to sign his contract. 391 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: By the way, Quinnon Williams in the middle, presumably the 392 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: incoming anchor for that Jets defensive line. On the back end, 393 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams first round pick going into his what third year, 394 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: a really solid player. There's a lot to like about 395 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: the Jets. But one of our crew we were talking 396 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: today about this Bill's Jets matchup mentioned to me, I 397 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: forget who it was. Some prognosticator has oh, it's Connor 398 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: or NFL dot Com as the Jets of full three 399 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: games ahead of the Bills by the end of the year, 400 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: three games, three more wins than the Bills have, like 401 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: nine wins for the Jets six for the Bills. I 402 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: think it's much closer than that, I really do. Any 403 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: Connor was He's one of my good college buddies too. Yeah, 404 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I went to Syracuse together. But yeah, I'm 405 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: not gonna agree with him there though. Yeah. I like 406 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: the Jets a lot. I mean Levion Bell, I mean too, 407 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: they needed to take a chance on somebody. This is 408 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: maybe the best running back in the game, maybe the 409 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: best player in the game. You can do things with 410 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: Levion Bell that you can't do with any other player. Defensively, 411 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: you know, being bad for a while helped out. I mean, 412 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: you've got Leonard Williams, Quinn and Williams up front. They 413 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: paid up for CJ. Molesley, Avery and Williamson is one 414 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: of the most underrated linebackers in football. Jamal Adams might 415 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: be a top five safety if there's so much to 416 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: love about this roster, John, but then you have all 417 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: the drama, I mean, and then the GM is out. 418 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: Adam Gays wins this power play. Who wasn't really that 419 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: successful in Miami. As we talked about yesterday, Did you 420 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: know great things before that in Chicago and Denver. But 421 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: you kind of wonder structurally, is this maybe a house 422 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: of cards. I mean, they're really really given Adam Gays 423 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: a ton of power here. Now. I did like the 424 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: hire of I think Joe Douglas is who they brought in, right, 425 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: I mean he's somebody who's really well respected right across 426 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, so I guess I love the roster. 427 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: I can see where Connor would give him nine wins 428 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: and you want to believe. But with the Jets, it's 429 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: always dysfunction of one way or another. And I just 430 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: think with everything we saw this offseason, things can fall apart. 431 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: I mean Adam Gaze, it sounds like he didn't even 432 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: want Levion Bell, So how's that relationship going to work out? Yeah? 433 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: And Adam Rank talked with us about the Jets yesterday. 434 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: He was way down on the Jets because of the 435 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: dysfunction that you mentioned, and way down on Adam Gaze, 436 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: and I happen to agree with him. What did Gays 437 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: do with the Dolphins that would lead the New York Jets? Obviously, 438 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: you know mcagnet and the old GM was probably not 439 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: in this gamp. But what made them think that he 440 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: was a guy they absolutely had to have. I don't 441 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: see it. Gaye has the reputation of a quarterback expert, 442 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: quarterback whisperer because of what has worked with Peyton Manning, 443 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: who was a fully formed NFL quarterback by the time 444 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: Adam Gaye got him. In fact, those who have coached 445 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and been around Peyton Manning will tell you 446 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: that quite frankly, he wasn't real receptive to coaching about 447 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: quarterback technique and quarterback play, you know what I mean. 448 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: He had his own way and did it and excelled 449 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: all his way to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 450 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: So I don't know what Case had in his background 451 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: that made the Jets think this is the guy we 452 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: have to have. And then can I add this to 453 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: the Jets possible dysfunction mess? And you know, I may 454 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: live to regret saying this, but as much as I 455 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: like Greg Williams personally, I don't think he's a good 456 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: team guy. I think he you know, he's kind of 457 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: a guy who will want to establish his defense and 458 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: has have his name on that defense and make his 459 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: name as the Jets defense coordinator. And sometimes that doesn't 460 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: really work to the benefit of the team. I could 461 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: see that happening in New York, especially with some of 462 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: the big time players he has now Mosley, as you said, 463 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams on the back end, Leonard Williams, Quinn and 464 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: Williams upfront. You know, he might say, well, whatever they're 465 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: doing on offense, this is my defense, and this is 466 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do, and this what we're gonna look like. 467 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: You can see can you not see Greg Williams doing Yeah, coach. 468 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's everybody who saw hard Knocks this last 469 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: summer got a sneak peek at his personality. It's it's different. 470 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: It's pretty wild that he's still in the NFL through 471 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: the whole bounty gate thing. And you know, cut the 472 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: head off and the body will die go after his 473 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: knees and we're gonna concuss this player, that player. I mean, 474 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: just awful stuff. I mean it just it still kind 475 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: of blows my mind to see him out of the 476 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: sideline to begin with. But if you look past all 477 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: of that, I mean, he is he brings attitude to 478 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: a defense, he brings swagger, and he has more talent 479 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: on this Jets defense than maybe he even had in Cleveland. 480 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: Maybe he had it on any other defense he's ever had, 481 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: even back to New Orleans. So it could be a 482 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: perfect combination. But getting back to that dysfunction, you almost 483 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: assume that there's gonna be a problem at some point 484 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: that the offensive minds and the defensive minds could clash. 485 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: And Adam Gates is a very strong personality. How is 486 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: that really going to work out? So, you know, I 487 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: I want to believe in the Jets. You want to 488 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: believe in that roster? I mean, Sam Darnold has everything 489 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: you'd want in a starting quarterback. Levion Bell is a 490 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: running back that can line up in the slot, can 491 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: line up out wide. Hey, just just out a whole year, 492 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna be fresh. I mean, even Robbie Anderson question, 493 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: you want to believe? I don't want to believe in 494 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: the Jets. I hate the Jets worse than anybody in 495 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: the league quite frankly, Um, what do you think we've 496 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: talked about it outside of the Bills. We talk about 497 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: the Bills all year long here, but obviously you keep 498 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: aware of what's going on in the AFC East in particular. 499 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: It's a very intriguing division. I think it's again because 500 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: the Bills are in it. But I happen to think, well, actually, 501 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: you've got the national perspective. Do you think most NFL 502 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: observers look at the AFC Easton think Patriots move on? 503 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: What's the next? Do you think that's the Yeah, because 504 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: maybe it's just because we are in it. We feel 505 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: like I think there's a great question marks about all 506 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: of these teams. Yeah, I think that's pretty much unless 507 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: you're Michael Robinson. Then he's been on this the Bills 508 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: bandwagon for a while. I think they're gonna win the division. 509 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: So hey, he's a smart guy. Maybe he's onto something. 510 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: He sees something we don't see. And you just I've 511 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: learned you just can't beat against Tom Brady. And it 512 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: sounds simple and people don't want to hear it. But 513 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: until he retires, this is his division, this is his conference, 514 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: this is his NFL. I don't know, Well, we'll see 515 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: what do you give us a call? I no, I 516 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: mean until he retires, he is skills diminished, which I 517 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: think we've witnessed some of that. Anyway, even though they've diminished, 518 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: that's kind of where I think that the genius of 519 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: Belichick comes into play and hey, you give the ball 520 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: to Sony Michelle a bunch, you give it to the 521 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: Rex Burkhead. You win with defense. It's you know what though, 522 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: a good point you mentioned. Um, you know they've they've 523 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: lost a lot of coaches on defense. Yeah, so maybe 524 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: that's where you start to see, you know, some problems 525 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: arise and chicks in the armor that maybe that maybe 526 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: they aren't themselves defensively because a lot of those coaches 527 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: have left the last two years. What do you think? 528 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: Give us a call? Eight oh three five fifty toll 529 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. 530 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: The Bills offseason has been well chronicled on this show. 531 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: But what about the rest of the division outside of 532 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: the Bills. What's the biggest question marks in the AFC East. 533 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: Let's take a phone call. Let's get some tweets in 534 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: on this. Alex calling from New York City. Hello Alex 535 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: oh Head, you're on the air with us. Oh hey, guys, 536 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: long time listener, six time caller. Okay, just I love 537 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: the show. Anytime we could talk Bills, I get really 538 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: excited and I just wanted to say hi to mister Tasker. 539 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: I haven't seen you in a long time, but the 540 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: last time we met was Atte Wagman's and thanks for 541 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: signing my hat. Okay, we'll pass that along. Steve's not 542 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: here today, but we will pass that along. I'm sorry, 543 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: that's my fault. So anyways, like the biggest question marks 544 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: I think would be Bruce progressing better, is that Sam 545 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: Darnold or that Josh Allen? And then on the other 546 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: side of things, is Tom Brady gonna finally start to decline? Yeah, 547 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: we've talked a little bit about this, Alex, thanks for Colleen. 548 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: I believe he has started a decline very slowly and 549 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,719 Speaker 1: very methodically, and I think he is so good on 550 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: the mental side of the game that his decline is 551 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,239 Speaker 1: probably muted. You know, you might not even notice on 552 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: a regular basis. I do believe that decline has begun, 553 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: although I also think, yeah, you mentioned Darnald, Josh Allen. 554 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: Now he got Rosen in the division. I think that 555 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: fact those three first round picks from a year ago 556 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: makes the AFC's kind of a marquee division in the NFL. 557 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: I really do. Yeah, it's it's gonna be unders. Don't 558 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: mean interrupt. That was an unusual draft last year that 559 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: that many first round quarterbacks, not since what eighty three 560 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: was there's that kind of interest in first round quarterbacks. 561 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: And now three of those what five first rounders there 562 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: in this division. That's pretty cool, right, right. The three 563 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: quarterbacks trying to take down Tom Brady are young enough 564 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: to be his son. It's pretty wild when you think 565 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, I mean, maybe there are those signs 566 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: of decline, and then you pull up Tom Brady's numbers 567 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: for the year and it was sixty six percent completion 568 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: forty three you know, or four thousand, three hundred fifty 569 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: five yards twenty nine touchdowns. It's you're right, it is 570 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: kind of muted. They just kind of find a way 571 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: to cover up what he might not be able to 572 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: do well anymore. The Sam Darnold Josh Allen things really 573 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: interesting because they're polar opposites as quarterbacks, right, John, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 574 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: go on, what do you see there? I mean, Sam 575 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: Darnold's probably not gonna just tuck it and try to 576 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: truck stick a linebacker leap over Anthony Barr. It's uh, 577 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: He's gonna stay in the pocket. He's more accurate, you know, 578 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: he can probably read a defense a little bit better 579 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: than Josh Allen at this point. Um, but Josh Allen 580 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: has a much stronger army. He can gunna deep better 581 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: than Sam Donald. I think the Bills are gonna be 582 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: relying on those big plays this year, where the Jets 583 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: maybe it is a little more methodical, a little more 584 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: West coast. Are you reluctant to throw Josh Rosen in 585 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: this equation just because you don't know if he'll be 586 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: the guy? Is that what keeps it just because of 587 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: his rookie year? Maybe he was that disappointing last year. 588 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, it seems like he's pretty far 589 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: behind those two. Yeah, he just didn't show that much. 590 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: And we'll see. I loved him in college, you know, 591 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: I think everybody did. But whether it was the situation 592 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: in Arizona, you know, the situation Buffalo wasn't good for 593 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: Josh Allen though either. I mean that offensive line was 594 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: not good, didn't have a lot of weapons, didn't have 595 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: a lot of weapons at all. And when he came 596 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: into the game, I mean it was night and day 597 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: from Nathan Peterman just a general excitement about Josh Allen 598 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: just to watch and I know we're sitting on here 599 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: on this net. We're talking about it, but I say 600 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: that objectively, heat it's just a lot more fun to 601 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: watching Josh Rosen, which you go back to draft day 602 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: here and a lot of fans, i'd say more fans 603 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: than that, we're unhappy with that with that choice. Yeah, 604 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: oh really, yeah, we heard about the heart heard from 605 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: a few of them. We did. What do you think? 606 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: We got full lines open for you outside of the Bills. 607 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: What is the what are the biggest question marks in 608 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: the AFC East? Will take tweets on a two at 609 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: one Bills Live or give us a call eight oh 610 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: three h five fifty or two three one eight eight 611 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. There's news today about 612 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: Tyree Hill. We'll talk about that when we returned, the 613 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: Chiefs wide receiver who is not going to face any 614 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: sort of NFL discipline, So we'll talk about that a 615 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: little bit. Six days away from the starting training camp, 616 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: two weeks away from the return of the Blue and 617 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: the Red, the Bills Night practice two weeks from today, Friday, 618 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: August second gates open at five fifteen and the practice 619 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: starts at six fifteen. They've got interactive games photo ops 620 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: with players and coaches and much more. You need a 621 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: ticket to get to the Return to the Blue and 622 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: the Red the Night Practice, and you get the ticket 623 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: The vouchers at various locations including Tops Markets, Mount Read 624 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: Boulevard and Rochester, Tops Market and Maple Road in Buffalo, 625 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: seven to eleven Southwestern Boulevard, West Seneca, Crosby's on Main 626 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: Street in Clarence, and Sonoco A plus Mainstream in Waynasville. 627 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: The Return of the Blue and the Red the Bills 628 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: Night Practice Friday, August second, just two weeks from today. 629 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: Tyler Donna is with us here today in places d Tasker, 630 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: and we're coming back with more. One Bill's Live presented 631 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo 632 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Thanks for joining us today this Friday, this 633 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: final day of the week. We're back Monday. Steve will 634 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: be back on Monday. We've got Tyler Dunn in here 635 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: in place of C for the second consecutive day, and 636 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about today. I want to hear 637 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: from you, though, outside of the Bills. What's the biggest 638 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: question mark in the AFC East. We know your Bills fans, 639 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: we know you follow the Bills but you gotta pay 640 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: attention to what the Patriots and Dolphins are doing. You 641 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: don't have to, but it helps. And what they got 642 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: question marks, I think it's pretty intriguing. We're gonna go 643 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: a little bit later on in the show, Tyler. I 644 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: don't know what time we're gonna go through the Bleacher 645 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: report division winners. You and your colleagues are went through 646 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: the division winners. Was it unanimous for the Patriots in 647 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: the ACA? That's fine. I would vote that way too. 648 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: I just don't think it's out of the realm. But 649 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: we know you're a Patriots lover. Oh no, no, no, no, 650 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: not a jet So I don't even like the Dolphins. 651 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: I really don't like these AFC East teams. I don't. 652 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't like them at all outside of the Bill's 653 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: biggest question mark in the AFC East. What do you think. 654 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: There's this bit of news today and it is distasteful, 655 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: but here it is. The NFL is not going to 656 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: suspend Chiefs wide receiver Tyreek Hill, the league announced today, 657 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: so he can't attend Chiefs training camp, which opens next 658 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: Friday week from today. The league issued a statement today 659 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: saying they've conducted a comprehensive investigation of allegations regarding Tyreek Hill. 660 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: It says, m we have taken great care to ensure 661 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: we do not interfere with UM the Johnson County Department 662 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: for Children and Families and compromise the privacy or welfare 663 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: of the child involved in any way. They said. The 664 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: court for seeing his confidential and has not been shared 665 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: with us, and the court has sealed all law enforcement 666 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: records the league. The NFL says, if further information becomes 667 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: available through law enforcement or other sources, we will probably 668 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: consider it and take all appropriate steps. At that time, 669 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: Tyree Hill has been barred from all Chiefs team related activities. 670 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: A lot of it came about first day of the 671 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: NFL draftling audio surface in which he discusses injuries suffered 672 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: by his son, telling his fiance she should be terrified 673 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: of him during an eleven minute discussion that took place 674 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: over the telephone. Now that's a tough one because that 675 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: phone call sounded awful, right, tyreek Hill telling his fiance 676 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: she should be terrified of him after his son was hurt, 677 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: And people, I think will jump on this and say, 678 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: how can the league let this guy play? It's evidence Tyler. 679 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: I really believe this, and as hard as it is 680 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: to admit, I do believe this, and maybe I'm naive, 681 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: but I think if if the NFL had evidence that 682 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: Tyree Hill had had, you know, had done something that 683 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: injured his son, they would act on it. I don't 684 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: I have to believe they don't believe that they have 685 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: the evidence. Now. I don't think it has anything to 686 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: do with his status as a as a star player 687 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: in the league, an important player for Kansas City. The 688 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: league left the door open, saying, first of all, they're 689 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: looking for more information. They do not have information from authorities, 690 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: legal authorities as to what happened here. In fact, local 691 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: here's a from the league statement. Local law enforcement authorities 692 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,959 Speaker 1: have publicly advised that the available evidence does not permit 693 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: them to determine who caused the child's injuries. So there 694 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: is no legal charge against Tyree Hill. The local law 695 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: enforcement officials, the police say, we don't have enough evidence 696 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: to charge Tyreek Hill, and if you're the NFL, you 697 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: got to think well of they don't of the evidence 698 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: and they haven't shared anything else with us, As they 699 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: have said, we cannot at this point take this guy's job. 700 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: And livelihood away from him, maybe as much as they'd 701 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: like to, and I believe they'd like to do the 702 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: right thing here, but people can disagree. I'm wondering what 703 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: you think about all of this, ty Well, it looks 704 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: and sounds terrible. Yeah, I mean we all heard the message, 705 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: read the message or the conversation should say on the tape, 706 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: and you know he also used the B word in there, 707 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: and it sounds menacing. It sounds awful from somebody who 708 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: was kicked off of v Oklahoma States football team and 709 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: pled guilty to domestic abuse in twenty fifteen after punching 710 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: and choking the fiance twenty fourteen at the time, It's 711 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: not good. I mean, he should have been on thin 712 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: ice from the get go. I think it was a 713 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: surprise to many that he was even drafted, that the 714 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,719 Speaker 1: Chiefs took this chance. So you piece it all together. 715 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: I think that when that kind of went when that 716 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: went down, that that audio recording and we all heard that, 717 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: you just assume this guy's career might be over. You 718 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: a hom that there is this evidence out there, just 719 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: a truckload of evidence that would prove what we all thought, 720 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, that that he was to blame for um, 721 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, his his son's uh, you know, I don't 722 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: know exactly what broken arm and maybe even more than that, 723 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: so it's not good. But I also I do agree 724 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: with you. You need to live in a world of evidence, 725 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: of fact of truth that you know, and you can't 726 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: just go off of recording. Um. But you know, I 727 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: will say this, Murphy, the optics of this are are terrible. 728 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: I agree. Terrible when you to suspend, you know, a 729 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: quarterback for deflated footballs when you don't really know what 730 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: the heck went on there four games and you know, 731 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: domestic violence, it seems, is not dealt with seriously by 732 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: the NFL time and time again. Well, well, I may 733 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: disagree with that last point, and in this regard Um, 734 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: I think the league has cleaned up as act and 735 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: actually taken pretty important big steps forward on domestic violence. 736 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean, there is the six game standard now, right, 737 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: You get six games if you are if you violate, 738 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: it's not even a legal thing if you violate the 739 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: NFL's personal conduct policy relating to domestic violence. It wasn't 740 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 1: the case in Ray Rice. Big problem the video surface 741 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: and the league I think, and admittedly Goodella is admitted 742 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: we made a mistake on ray Rice, but we've changed 743 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: that policy now, I think the league. My point is 744 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: the league's much better now than they were five six 745 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: years ago on domestic violence. It's not perfect, and this 746 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: is a tough one. As we said, the police in 747 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: Kansas City did not have enough evidence to charge. The 748 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: league in its statement today says, based on the evidence 749 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: presently available, the NFL cannot conclude that Tyreek Hill violated 750 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: the personal Conduct policy. I think they'd like to be 751 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: able to, you know, throw a suspension at him, but 752 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: they just can't do it. You can't take away a 753 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: guy's livelihood, take away his rights without solid evidence, and 754 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: they don't have it. I think that's the way I 755 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: read this, and I'd encourage everybody to read the coverage. 756 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: Terrell our Terres Payler has been doing a Yahoo He's 757 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: been all over this story. Lives in Kansas City, a 758 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: buddy of mine in the business, and you know he 759 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: had the report. I believe on June twenty six he'll 760 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: had this eight hour meeting with the league and it 761 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: sounds like he gave them text messages, gave them as 762 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: much evidence and improof of his own innocence as he 763 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: could and cooperated to the Polish extent. Now that there's that, 764 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: but there's also it sounds like his fiance didn't cooperate, 765 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: didn't talk to the league, and you mentioned that law enforcement. 766 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: There wasn't a ton of cooperation there. There weren't a 767 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: ton of conversations there. So there's probably a lot that 768 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 1: we don't know. Still, but Tyree Hill has maintained his innocence. 769 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: He came out with a statement today called these allegations false. 770 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: It's a it's a tough, tricky situation because I'm like 771 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: humor if I don't want to rush to conclusions, I 772 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: don't want to say something I don't know. All I'm 773 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 1: saying is that it looks terrible that this is somebody 774 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 1: who did plead guilty to just that heat is act 775 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: that maybe should have kept him out of the NFL 776 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: at beginning with maybe should have you know, banned him 777 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: from this league even having the privilege playing in the NFL. 778 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: When you have that as your background, you should be 779 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 1: operating on a one strike system. You should be operating 780 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: on thin ice, and your your reputation kind of precedes 781 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: you all the time. All of us, so it does 782 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: not look good. No, it looks bad quite frankly. Tyreek 783 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: Hill did, in fact issue a statement today, first time 784 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: he's issued a statement on the situation, and again put 785 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: this in the proper perspective. Right, He's just discovered that 786 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: the league's not going to suspend him. He knows that 787 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: there's no legal ramifications. And what is he looking for here? Vindication. 788 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm not going to give him vindication. He's looking for sympathy. 789 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm not going to give him sympathy. Let me just 790 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: read a portion of his statement. The last few months 791 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: have been very difficult for me, especially as a father. 792 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: The false allegations originally reported in March, highly publicized, involved 793 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: the care of my son. I fully respect and accept 794 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: the NFL's decision. Hill said to the fans, friends and 795 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: family that I made in Kansas City. I love you, 796 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: and I thank you for your continued support to Commissioner 797 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: get Down in the NFL. Thank you for your time 798 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: and for conducting a thorough investigation. I will not let 799 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: you down. Um okay, I mean. The best we can 800 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: hope for here, Tyler, I think is that Tyreek Hill 801 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: changes his ways. Obviously he's had issues in the past 802 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: he suspected very strongly with some some pretty serious allegations 803 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: here which nobody can get enough evidence on, and I 804 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: hope he changes his way. So I hope he straightens 805 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: himself out. I think that would be the best possible 806 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: outcome here. And I agree with you, it's a it's 807 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: a horrible look for the league. It really is bad. 808 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: And you would hope that both the Kansas City Chiefs, 809 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: after what they went through with Cream Hunt in the NFL, 810 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: after what they've gone through, you know, on an annual basis, 811 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: the basis with multiple players, multiple problems, that you think 812 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: that both would do their their investigation to the absolute 813 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: fullest extent this time around. That would be the assumption. 814 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: So sure you hope that that was the case and 815 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: that um, you know that this is the conclusion that 816 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: it was for the best. Yep, all right, we'll move on. Well, 817 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: talk more about the Bills and the rest of the 818 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: AFC East when we return. We want to hear from you, 819 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: want to know from you what you think what are 820 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: the big issues in the AFC East outside of the Bills, 821 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: What are the big question marks? The Jets have them, 822 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots have them, the Dolphins have them. What do 823 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: you see for each of those teams? Give us a call. 824 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: Phone lines open eight O three oh five fifty toll 825 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty, 826 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: Send it a tweet. WEE might read it on the 827 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: tweet sheet. More of that when we return One Bills Live, 828 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: presented by Come out of Health from One Bills Drive. 829 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: This says Buffalo Bills Radio, Welcome back One Bill's Live 830 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: from One Bills Drive. John Murphy with Tyler Dunn from 831 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: Bleacher Report here today filling and for Steve Steve Tasker, 832 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: who will be back on Monday. Monday is the first 833 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 1: week of training camp. Will be down there next Thursday. 834 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: Our topic of the day outside of the Bills, what's 835 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: the biggest question mark in the AFC East? What do 836 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: you see for the Patriots, for the Dolphins, for the Jets? 837 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: Phone lines open eight O three five fifty toll free 838 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight fifty two fifty, send it a tweet. 839 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: Tend to look at a few of them on the 840 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: tweet sheet. Brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the 841 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 1: official movers of the Buffalo Bills. From the tweets sheet 842 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 1: from Jack how long? What's the biggest question mark his response, 843 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: how long before creepy Adam gasee vo Greg Williams an 844 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: all time me guy leving On Bell caused an implosion 845 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: in Florham Park? When will the Jets crash and burn? Personally, 846 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: I hope it happens next week. That's a good response. 847 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 1: It's funny, but there's an element of truth there, Tyler, 848 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: all of that, all of that could happen. Crash and 849 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: burn I could happen. Now there we need to just 850 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 1: lay off Adam Gaze with the with the I think, 851 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: with the eyes, the reference to the guys. You know, 852 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: I've talked to him one on one and it's like 853 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: the exact opposite of what you'd get out of that 854 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: press conference, like very engaging, like just really good in 855 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: that kind of setting. I kind of felt bad for 856 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 1: him in a weird through that, because task are always 857 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: telling him what a good guy he is in Yeah, 858 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: production meanings, what do you think happened that day? I mean, look, 859 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: I've never seen him look like that in any other Yeah, 860 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: I would just be I'd be guessing. I really don't know. 861 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: I mean maybe there's something going on. We don't know. 862 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: It was strange, Yeah, do you think that's what that 863 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: tweet is about. Creepy Adam Gaze. That's what he's maybe. 864 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what else it would be. Greg Williams 865 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: is volatile. He is all time me guy, Lean Bell, 866 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: He's on the list anyway. I don't know if there's 867 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: all time, right. May you know I love Levion Bell, 868 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm not gonna give him that nickname. Okay, 869 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: and tell me again why you love him so much? Well, 870 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: I think he's really I think because he just does 871 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: things and no other player can. But he's just so 872 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: open and honest, and that's so rare from a player 873 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: of his stature. You know, he We've sat down a 874 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: few times for stories at Bleacher Report and he he 875 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: really doesn't have airs about him. I mean honestly, he 876 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 1: just he gives everybody his time and you know, whether 877 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: he's talking about you know, his chess game. He plays 878 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: chess all the time on his phone. He can play 879 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: like two, three, four games of chess at once. I mean, 880 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: that's how his mind works. It's unbelievable. We all know 881 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: he likes to rap on the side and just as 882 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: running style. He kind of compared himself to Steph Curry 883 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: and you know, shooting threes in basketball. He wants to 884 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: start a revolution with those running backs, kind of almost 885 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 1: coming into a complete stop being patient, picking and choosing 886 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: their holes. I just found him unbelievably open, engaging, honest, 887 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: and really down to earth in that setting. Okay, here's 888 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 1: an interesting tweet. I like the way this guy's thinking. 889 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: I like the depth he put into this thought. Brian 890 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,720 Speaker 1: tweets then and this in when we asked a question 891 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: biggest question mark in the AFC East outside of the Bills, 892 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: he says, good one. Well, anybody who tells us we've 893 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: got a good question, it's good. But he says good one. 894 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: They're all teetering on a cliff. Sam Donald in a 895 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: new regime, Agen Brady retirement. But I think the Dolphins 896 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: could end up Buffalo's best competitor in the upcoming years. 897 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,439 Speaker 1: Rosen is no slouch learning from fits Donald's gonna face 898 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: coaching carousel, pats the Patriots on borrowed time. That's an 899 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: interesting take. They say that the Dolphins might be the 900 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: biggest threat to the Bills, and I agree with them, 901 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: And I think you agree to Rosen is No, Well, 902 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: maybe you don't. We might disagree here I don't think 903 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: Rosen is a slouch. I think he had a rough 904 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: year with a very bad Arizona team, and I expected 905 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: he'll get better and be a pretty decent quarterback at 906 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: some point. What do you think, my nuts? Yeah, he 907 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: was tough in college, but a lot of guys were 908 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: tough in college, and I don't know, we just haven't 909 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: seen it yet. And like we talked about earlier, given 910 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 1: the hands that they were dealt, I mean, Josh Allen 911 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: and Josh Rosen both had really bad hands, really bad 912 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: supporting casts, really bad offensive lines. And I just think 913 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: that Josh Allen showed you more. I mean he just 914 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: made more plays. Now you get both a really good 915 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: offensive line. Maybe with a little bit more time, Josh 916 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: Rose improves, He's a better pocket passer. Maybe we'll see 917 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: more from the tweet sheet outside of the Bills. The 918 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: biggest question mark in the AFC, he's Tiffany tweets this 919 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: and her questions, how did the Patriots move on from 920 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: Gronk's retirement. He's been a game changer for that team 921 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: in a matchup nightmare for defensive coordinators for years. Does 922 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 1: na kill Harry fill that role? Becoming their red zone target. 923 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's a big loss for Brady and 924 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: the Pats. It is we acknowledge it. It is a 925 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: big loss, right, definitely, I mean a huge loss. He's 926 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: a Hall of famer. But we've just been conditioned to 927 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: expect them to find a way and to change and 928 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: tweak what they do and maybe nikkil Harry is that 929 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: player who can step in and be a big time 930 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: target for Tom Brady. You know, one thing to keep 931 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: in mind, though, the Patriots really haven't drafted that well 932 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: at wide receiver now that I think about it. You 933 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: know Ja Jackson right, right, They've kind of the part 934 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: of their genius is they're so good at the veterans 935 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: they pick up on these cheap deals and on the fly, 936 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: on the run and just getting the right guy at 937 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: the right time with the right fits. So I don't 938 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: know if this rookie can come in and play. I 939 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 1: don't think we should just assume that he's going to 940 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: be a stud because Belichick found that is one spot 941 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: where you know, the Patriots maybe aren't as brilliant as 942 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: we think they are. Right. But then, like we talked 943 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: about earlier, it's going to be interesting. You see Tom 944 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: Brady out there throwing the ball to Josh Gordon. You 945 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: kind of you kind of wonder is Josh Gordon gonna 946 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: be in the plans that he was throwing the ball 947 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: to Grock? Is Grock? Are we so sure he's done? 948 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: He looks about fifty pounds lighters soot receiver. Don't you 949 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: think I think he's done? I think he is, But 950 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: you just never know. I mean, they could get into 951 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: December and need him. Yeah. Hey, one hour of the 952 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 1: books coming up. Next hour, We're gonna talk with Greg 953 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 1: co Sell from NFL Matchup on ESPN and NFL Films. 954 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 1: He's going to join us. He's got a lot to 955 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: say about Josh Rosen. He's done some extensive film review. 956 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: We'll talk with Greg Cosell about that. So come on 957 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: back for that in the second hour of the show. Hey, 958 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: coming up the Sunday Bills Fans. Buffalo Bills Embedded, the 959 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: new digital series that debuted last year or Attorney for 960 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: season two. It airs in its entirety this Sunday, seven 961 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: pm on the Bills YouTube channel. Kyle Williams is the 962 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: narrator Buffalo Bills Embedded with an in depth look at 963 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,720 Speaker 1: the Bills offseason access behind the scenes highlighting the Draft 964 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: and the Combine and the Senior Bowl. Check it out. 965 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: It starts. You can get it Sunday on the Buffalo 966 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: Bills YouTube channel seven o'clock. You can watch it in 967 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: its entirety Buffalo Bills embedded. Coming back for more. One 968 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalada Health from One Bill's Drive 969 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio Hills Radio Network. Sporting date update 970 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: comes from One Bill's Drive where the Bills made a 971 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: roster move today, believe it or not, just six days 972 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: before they go to training camp. Bills an outset safety 973 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: Rafael Busch, who got some snaps at nickel corner last year, 974 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: has designed to retire less than a week before training camp. 975 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: The veteran Rafael Busch, who spent fifteen games with the 976 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: Bills last year seven starts, so we said, played some 977 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: nickel corner. He played for five teams of his in 978 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: his NFL career, including the Bills, and to take his spot, 979 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: the Bills signed another veteran corner, Kurt Coleman, former Carolina Panther, 980 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: played with the New Orleans Saints last year one hundred 981 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: thirty two career games for Kurt Coleman, eighty three starts 982 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: sixteen games with the Saints, nine starts last year. Kurt Coleman, 983 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: thirty one years of age in Ohio state product, signs 984 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 1: on with the Buffalo Bills after spending last year with 985 00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: New Orleans. Worked with Sean McDermott in Philadelphia and Carolina. 986 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: The NFL is not going to suspend Kansas City Chiefs 987 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,439 Speaker 1: wide receiver Tyreek Hill. He can't attend Chiefs training camp, 988 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,399 Speaker 1: which opens next Friday. The league says just not enough 989 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,760 Speaker 1: evidence to suspend him under the NFL's Personal Conduct Policy. 990 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: The league says if further information becomes available, they will 991 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: promptly consider it and take appropriate steps. At that time. 992 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 1: The Jets getting set for camp, and they might not 993 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,240 Speaker 1: see either top draft pick right away number three overall 994 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: pick Quinn and Williams might not report with his teammates today. 995 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,360 Speaker 1: Williams his situation could play out just like the Jets 996 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: first pick last year, Sam Darnold, who didn't report it 997 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: right away. Not expected to be a big deal, but 998 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: Quinn and Williams not expected to report to Jets camp. 999 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 1: Baltimore opens training camp without its first round wide out 1000 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: available receiver Marquis Brown among four rookies placed on the 1001 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,879 Speaker 1: active non football injury list yesterday. He underwent Liz Frank 1002 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: surgery in February. Oklahoma products up at a foot injury 1003 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 1: during the Sooners winning the Big Twelfth Championship game. Broncos 1004 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: linebacker Todd Davis, who started sixteen games last year, expected 1005 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 1: to miss three or four weeks with a partial tear 1006 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: and his calf muscle. The British Open, Shane Lowry is 1007 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: the leader at four hunder part Tiger Woods. Expected to 1008 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: miss the cut. He finished at one. He finished at 1009 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: seventy today, shot a one under seventy today, closed with 1010 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: two straight bogees. Finishes six overpar, not committee enough to 1011 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: make the cut at the British Open. All right, number 1012 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: two of the show. It is One Bill's Live from 1013 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. We've got Tyler done with us from 1014 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: Bleacher Report in place of Steve Tasker, who returns on Monday. 1015 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: We've got a regular familiar guest on Fridays with us 1016 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 1: right now. He is the executive producer and analyst on 1017 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 1: air for NFL Matchup on ESPN. Longtime senior producer at 1018 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 1: NFL Films. Happy to have Greg Cosell on the line 1019 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,879 Speaker 1: with us. Hello, Greg, welcome to the show. A long 1020 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: time no see or hear from. How are you doing, Murph? 1021 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: It is so good to be back with you. How's 1022 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,879 Speaker 1: your summer been? Summer has been great. Back to work 1023 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: on Monday after a couple of great weeks off, say 1024 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: hello to our co host. Guest co host today, Tyler 1025 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,320 Speaker 1: Dunne is with us from Bleacher Report. Tyler grigat to 1026 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: be with you. Nice to talk to you, Hey, And 1027 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: I always like when we can see who we're talking, 1028 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: so I don't know about that. I got a face 1029 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: for radio, but thank you. Hey. I know you've been 1030 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: busy offseason working. I want to if I can get 1031 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: you in on what our twitter polls all about. We've 1032 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 1: basically been asking people and you can evaluate this in 1033 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: your role as a film study guy. We spend so 1034 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,439 Speaker 1: much time talking about the Bills just to get things 1035 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,399 Speaker 1: started here, Greg, As you look around the other afcast 1036 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: team Patriots, Dolphins, Jets, what are some of the big issues. 1037 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: What should folks know going into training camp about those 1038 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: three divisional opponents for the Buffalo Bills. What do you 1039 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,359 Speaker 1: think they're worried about in those three outposts. Well, here's 1040 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: here's what fascinates me about the Patriots very simple. Last 1041 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,439 Speaker 1: year down the stretch, they turned into a running football team, 1042 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,240 Speaker 1: playing with a fullback on almost fifty percent of their snaps. 1043 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 1: Then they drafted Damian Harris this year out of Alabama 1044 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 1: in the third round. When you draft a player in 1045 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: the third round, you expect him to play. So I'm 1046 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: very anxious to see if the Patriots make a slight 1047 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: movement toward being running football team because I didn't think 1048 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: Brady and I know they won the Super Bowl, but 1049 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 1: I didn't think he was quite as sharp as Brady 1050 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: has been in his career down the stretch. The Jets 1051 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: are a very interesting team to me. They've got a 1052 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: few holes, but they've also got some real quality players, 1053 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: and Adam Gasee is a highly respected offensive coach, and 1054 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: I think their offense could very well be worth watching Miami. 1055 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: Of course, people have talked about who the quarterback will be. 1056 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: I think it'll eventually be Josh Rosen. Right now, they're 1057 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: a team that I think is probably at the bottom 1058 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: end in terms of talent in the division, and obviously 1059 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: with a new coaching staff, so this could be a 1060 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: little bit of a rebuilding year for them. Those are 1061 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: all interesting takes. Just back to the Patriots for a second, 1062 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: Greg and Tyler and I talked about this a little 1063 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: bit in the first hour of the show, Tom Brady, 1064 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 1: and you mentioned, you know, he's not the way he was. 1065 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 1: His skills, I believe have diminished somewhat, but it's not dramatic, 1066 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: and I wonder if he makes up for it just 1067 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 1: by his mental acuity, his familiarity with that system, his experience. 1068 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, it's almost like he might not drop off 1069 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: the table as some others might, even if his physical 1070 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: skills diminish. Oh, I agree, I mean I would look. 1071 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: I hope he didn't come across as if I was 1072 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 1: saying that he wasn't any good. I just think that 1073 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 1: there were certain things when you study tape the way 1074 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: I do that I noticed. I thought that his pocket 1075 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,839 Speaker 1: movement wasn't quite the same, and that has always been 1076 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: an absolute strength of his game. I thought that he 1077 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,720 Speaker 1: wasn't quite as consistently accurate as he's been. That's always 1078 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,399 Speaker 1: been a strength of his game, his his precise ball 1079 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: placement and location. But I think in some ways Bill 1080 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 1: Belichick told you what Brady is and may not quite 1081 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,399 Speaker 1: be at this point, given how they chose to play 1082 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 1: down the stretch. You know, how do they work out 1083 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: that backfield then if they do kind of transform into 1084 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 1: more of a running team. I mean, they've got a 1085 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: lot of backs there, you know, before they even brought 1086 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: in the third round Damon Harris. Yeah, it's a great point, Tyler. 1087 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: I mean, look, they Sony Michelle was clearly their number 1088 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,359 Speaker 1: one runner, but they played Rex brookehard quite a bit, 1089 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: who's a solid runner and a very very good receiver 1090 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,399 Speaker 1: who can detach from the formation. But they drafted Damian Harris. Look, 1091 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: Sony Michelle's had knee issues going back to Georgia. Maybe 1092 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: they feel that as good as Michelle was down the stretch, 1093 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: that he can't be a true foundation back with two 1094 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: hundred fifty or two hundred and sixty carries. So maybe 1095 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 1: it'll be a little bit more by committee. But there's 1096 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: no question Damian Harris is that kind of bat. I mean, 1097 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 1: he's a pretty big time talent. He was coming out 1098 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: of high school. He was the number one recruit in 1099 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,399 Speaker 1: the country, had a nice career at Alabama, and kind 1100 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: of a committee approach, So it'll be interesting. I think 1101 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: the Patriots will be a fascinating team to watch because 1102 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: clearly they don't have a big time receiving corps. Right now, 1103 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 1: talking about Great Cosal, executive producer, analyst on NFL Matchup 1104 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: on the ESPN, longtime senior producer at NFL Films, Gregory 1105 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 1: with us on a regular basis just a couple of 1106 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: weeks away. Right after the Bill's first preseason three weeks 1107 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 1: from today August ninth, we'll have great co Sell starting 1108 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: his regular Friday visits. And enough about the Patriots. Let's 1109 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: talk about the Bills for a second, Greig, And about 1110 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: the guy who most people believe is the key man 1111 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: going into a second year, quarterback Josh Allen. You've had 1112 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: a chance to review some of his twenty eighteen tape. 1113 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: Huh Yeah, really, I spent some time this summer really 1114 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,879 Speaker 1: doing kind of a deep dive into Josh. I did 1115 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: that with a bunch of the rookie quarterbacks, and you know, 1116 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 1: it's really interesting. I thought he improved as the year 1117 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: went on, But you know, when I watched quarterbacks Murph 1118 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,839 Speaker 1: and this comes from just years ago and getting to 1119 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: know Bill Walsh well and spending time with him, I 1120 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,319 Speaker 1: think about quarterbacks and playing the position perfectly, and so 1121 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: there are certain things, you know, when I watched Josh 1122 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,839 Speaker 1: that need to be improved on. And I think that 1123 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 1: when I watched him, he tended to leave the pocket prematurely. 1124 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 1: And when quarterbacks leave the pocket prematurely, they leave throws 1125 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 1: on the field because they don't get to throws that 1126 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 1: are there. I don't think he saw things particularly clearly 1127 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 1: at times. He tended to be a primary read quarterback 1128 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: in his first season, which is very common for young quarterbacks. 1129 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 1: So what happens when you're a primary read quarterback is 1130 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: if you don't feel comfortable with that primary read, instead 1131 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: of being patient and composed in the pocket, you end 1132 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: up breaking down and leaving the pocket. And that's something 1133 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: he did far too often. I think his ball placement 1134 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 1: must become much more precise, especially versus man to man coverage, 1135 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: because versus man coverage in the NFL you don't have 1136 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: a big window per se. You've got to be able 1137 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 1: to really place the ball away from the defender. You know. 1138 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 1: I think that he's This relates to my first point. 1139 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 1: I think that the tape shows that he must get 1140 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: quicker with what I call elimination and isolation, in other words, 1141 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,879 Speaker 1: eliminating what's not there and isolating what is there, especially 1142 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 1: if they want to take advantage of his strong arm 1143 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: and attack at the intermediate and vertical levels, which they 1144 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 1: often did by route design. You know, obviously his supporting 1145 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: cast is going to be better, I mean better offensive 1146 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 1: line you would think, you know, better receivers, and like 1147 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know he'll probably work off that first 1148 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,320 Speaker 1: read more in a second year. But you know, in 1149 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: your experience studying quarterbacks like you study quarterbacks, is his 1150 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 1: accuracy is something you can teach, can coach? I mean 1151 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 1: that is that going to get markedly better for Josh? 1152 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: Is he is? Kind of he is what he is 1153 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 1: at that point. You know, it's interesting you say that, Tyler. 1154 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who smart and reasonable people 1155 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: disagree on that subject. I think if a quarterback plays 1156 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 1: with really good mechanics and his accuracy is not great, 1157 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: then that's what it is. But I think that Josh's 1158 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: mechanics can improve dramatically. I think because of his strong arm, 1159 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,799 Speaker 1: he has a tendency for his lower body and his 1160 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,879 Speaker 1: upper body not always to work in sync. That has 1161 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 1: to happen then we'll be able to make a better determination. 1162 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: You know. I also went through all his sacks and 1163 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 1: all his interceptions, and three things stood out. He needs 1164 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,359 Speaker 1: to get better, and this is a function of being 1165 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 1: a rookie. This is something you can get better. He 1166 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 1: needs better pre snap work, recognizing fronts and who he's 1167 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: responsible for in protection because the quarterback, depending on pressure concepts, 1168 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 1: often is responsible for a rusher. He was too quick 1169 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 1: to break down in the pocket, as I said, when 1170 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: his primary was not defined, and he did not turn 1171 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,879 Speaker 1: some throws loose when they were there. So these are 1172 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 1: three things that can be worked on, especially pre snap recognition. 1173 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 1: That's something that normally rookie quarterbacks struggle with and then 1174 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 1: ideally they get better. Now, the old line had some 1175 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 1: issues as well. There were far too many free rushers 1176 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 1: at Josh Allen. Sometimes that's the old lines issue. Sometimes 1177 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 1: that's the quarterback's issue. Question for you about Josh Allen 1178 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: and his well chronicled accuracy issues fifty two percent last year, 1179 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 1: complete your percent. I've heard and you mentioned it, you know, 1180 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 1: when when people talk about accuracy, you said, it's a 1181 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 1: lot of it is mechanics. I've heard Josh admit and 1182 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: heard others who are close to him say that's a 1183 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: footwork issue. It's it's the bottom half that he needs 1184 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,879 Speaker 1: to work on. Do you see that as a case, Greg, 1185 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 1: without question? Because one thing that if you talk to 1186 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 1: coaches all the time, what has to happen is the 1187 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 1: feet and the eyes have to work together. By that, 1188 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean you have to step to your throws. Now, 1189 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks with big arms because they've done 1190 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: this their whole lives and they've been okay with it. 1191 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 1: What they do is they tend to flick the ball 1192 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 1: and snap off their throws without turning their core and 1193 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 1: their front foot toward the throw. And if you don't 1194 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 1: do that in the NFL, eventually that catches up with you. 1195 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 1: And Josh needs to improve in that area. His feet 1196 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 1: and his eyes have to work together better. And one more, 1197 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 1: one more Josh question for you, Greg, and it's you know, 1198 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 1: since the offseason began, Hurd, Sean McDermot, and Brandon Mean 1199 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 1: talk about how looking they were looking for better decision 1200 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 1: making from Josh Allen in his second year. When I 1201 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: hear you talk about quicker elimination and isolation and better 1202 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 1: pre snapping eating, that's all decision making, right, that's recognizing 1203 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 1: what he's seen and making a decision. What I try 1204 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 1: to do, Murph, is try to, you know, explain it 1205 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: in a little more detail, right, because it's easy. You 1206 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: know people say processing and decision making. I try to 1207 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 1: explain it in a little more detail. But that's exactly 1208 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,480 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. The other thing that I think 1209 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 1: comes with experience is a better feel for game and situations. 1210 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 1: I think he needs a better game and situation awareness. 1211 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 1: He took a few sacks this year, you know, as 1212 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 1: they were in field goal range that you can't take you. 1213 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember these specific plays. Yeah, yeah, 1214 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 1: I you may remember these plays as well because I 1215 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: just saw them recently. But he threw an interception against 1216 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 1: the Packers and an interception versus the Jets, which were 1217 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 1: great examples. You know, he ran out of the pocket, 1218 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: he tried to make second reaction improvisational plays. You just 1219 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 1: have to have better game and situation awareness. The one 1220 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 1: against the Packers he threw into the end zone. You know, 1221 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 1: you can't do that. You just have to have better 1222 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 1: awareness of game situations, and I think that comes with experience. 1223 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 1: Can he make a living you know, running the ball 1224 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 1: ten times a game like he did last year. I mean, 1225 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: we've seen the RG three's fade away, Kaepernick's fade away. 1226 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 1: I mean, is this sustainable? Because you know his athleticism, 1227 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: we see him flying over Anthony Barr, truck sticking, you know, DBS. 1228 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's an ability he has and maybe no 1229 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,920 Speaker 1: other quarterback has. But I don't can you make a 1230 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: living like that long term? I don't think you can 1231 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 1: do it long term. He was arguably the best quarterback 1232 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 1: runner in the league last year, and people didn't really 1233 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 1: talk about that, but he had two one hundred yard games, 1234 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: two ninety plus yard games in terms of running the ball, 1235 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 1: and these were not necessarily designed runs Tyler, as you know, 1236 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 1: these were scrambles. I think that's a big part of 1237 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 1: his game. Some teams used to spy on him that 1238 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: in me continue this year. I don't think long term, 1239 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 1: even though he is a big man, he can make 1240 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: a living doing that. I mean, guys, look at look 1241 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: at Cam Newton. His body's broken down quite a bit 1242 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 1: and he's even bigger than Josh, So you know, I 1243 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: think that that becomes a crutch. I think there are 1244 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 1: times he ran where he shouldn't have run. And even 1245 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 1: if he gains twelve or fifteen yards, people might get excited, 1246 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 1: But I don't think he can live like that long term. Well, 1247 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 1: on the line with Greg Cosell, executive producer analysts NFL 1248 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 1: matchup on the ESPN, long time senior producer in NFL films, 1249 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 1: we talk. We know that the Bills have added you know, 1250 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 1: offensive lineman and receiving targets. One in particular, Cole Beasley 1251 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 1: coming over from Dallas. What sort of impact, what sort 1252 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,959 Speaker 1: of help do you think he might provide for Josh Allen. Well, 1253 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 1: he's your classic slot receiver, Murph as you know that 1254 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm not telling anything you don't know with that, and 1255 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 1: he's very, very good in the short intermediate areas. He's 1256 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: good on third down. He can run a lot of 1257 01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 1: those sort of option routes, choice routes, pivot route routes 1258 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 1: that when it's third and six he can gain eight yards. 1259 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 1: And those are the kinds of throws where I think 1260 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Josh's accuracy will need to be there because on those 1261 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 1: kinds of routes, they're timing routes. The ball has to 1262 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,479 Speaker 1: come out when a receiver like that makes a quick 1263 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 1: break off a pivot route. You've got to put it 1264 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 1: on his hands. You can't throw it behind him. So 1265 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think that he can be critical to 1266 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 1: this offense and that'll be a good litmus test for 1267 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: Josh as the season sort of starts and develops and 1268 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 1: progress to see fully necessary throws a quarterback must make. 1269 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 1: We all get focused, as you know, on big plays, 1270 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: but very often the important plays in games, or when 1271 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 1: it's third and six and you complete a ball for 1272 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 1: eight yards, those become the big plays in games. You know, 1273 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 1: Graham just looking back at this twenty seventeen draft, and 1274 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 1: I mean the Bills took Zay Jones, the head of 1275 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 1: guys like Juju Smith, Schuster, Alvin Kamara. They probably need 1276 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 1: more out of him this year. It's time for him 1277 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 1: to take a step. Is he gonna take it? Well? 1278 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting, Tyler, how they're the receiving 1279 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 1: corps is going to play out because Beasley is a 1280 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 1: slot guy. We know that Zay Jones I think can 1281 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 1: play there as well. But they have John Brown and 1282 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 1: they've got Foster, and I really like what Robert Foster 1283 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,360 Speaker 1: brought to the table last year. So I'm gonna be 1284 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,880 Speaker 1: very anxious to see how the snaps play out here 1285 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 1: with four receivers, assuming there's no injuries, with four receivers 1286 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 1: who I think are pretty interesting. So you know, my 1287 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,320 Speaker 1: guess is a Jones is a piece it is. I 1288 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 1: don't think he becomes a guy that catches seventy balls 1289 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 1: or it gets one hundred targets. He'll be part of it, 1290 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 1: but we'll see. I mean, you know you look, you 1291 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 1: signed Brown, you signed Beasley, and there's no question Foster 1292 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 1: showed some things last year. More questions about the Bills 1293 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 1: for you if I made greg six days away from 1294 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 1: Bill's training camp, we talked a lot about last year's 1295 01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 1: first pick Josh Allen. What about last year's second pickin Edmonds? 1296 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 1: What would represent a step forward for Tremaine Edmonds in 1297 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 1: his second years the Bill's middle linebacker. Yeah, I think 1298 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: he improved a lot over the last part of the season, Murph, 1299 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 1: because I think for middle linebacker is the one thing 1300 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 1: you're always looking at. And people use the word instincts 1301 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 1: another one of those sort of catchphrases for me, the 1302 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 1: term I always use his play recognition because what you 1303 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: have to understand, you have to understand formations. You have 1304 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 1: to understand the depth of the back. You have to 1305 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: understand where the back is. You know which side he's offset, 1306 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 1: is the offset to the passing strains or to the 1307 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 1: running strain. Those kinds of things you have to understand, 1308 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 1: spatial awareness, you're based on formation. Those are the kinds 1309 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 1: of things where I think a young MIC linebacker always 1310 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 1: has to get better, and I think Tremaine Edwards started 1311 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 1: to get a feel for that as the season progressed. 1312 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 1: He'll get better in that area and then you'll really 1313 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:57,720 Speaker 1: see the outstanding athleticism show up more snap after snap 1314 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 1: after snap. But but I thought he starred to move 1315 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 1: in that direction. By the sort of cliche for a 1316 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 1: stacked MIC linebacker is he has to play with his eyes, 1317 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 1: and I think that that's critical for Tremaine Edmonds. The 1318 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,640 Speaker 1: athletic ability is clearly there. Man. It's pretty incredible when 1319 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 1: when you look at what frank Or has done in 1320 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 1: his career. I mean, when this season's over, he might 1321 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 1: be probably will be number three all time on the list, 1322 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 1: and oh yeah, probably gonna keep playing after that. What 1323 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: does he still have left to give? When you look 1324 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 1: at him on the film, I love Frank or And 1325 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 1: I love when people tell me he's not a Hall 1326 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 1: of Famer because he was never, you know, a top 1327 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 1: three back in any given year. I mean, given what 1328 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 1: he's done over time, a very few backs have done that. 1329 01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 1: I think last year he looked very good running the football. 1330 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 1: Obviously he's not at the point in his career or 1331 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 1: he's getting two hundred and fifty carries, but when you 1332 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 1: watch him run, I think his skill set is pretty 1333 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 1: close to what it was. Look he was never a 1334 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:59,240 Speaker 1: true explosive burner back. He was always more of a 1335 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 1: tough side grinder with a great feel for running in 1336 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,720 Speaker 1: confined space. He always had the ability to get through 1337 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 1: small creases at the point of attack. He just had 1338 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 1: a great feel for running the football. That feel is 1339 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 1: still there. One more Bills question for you before we 1340 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 1: move on to some other issues. Greg and are remaining 1341 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 1: a few moments here. Bills made a roster move today. 1342 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 1: Raphael Bush retired Kirk Coleman, who's got what nine year 1343 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 1: resume in the NFL last year with New Orleans. Kirk 1344 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 1: Coleman signs to the roster. What if anything can the 1345 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,800 Speaker 1: Bills get from him? Would you think, well, Kirk Coleman 1346 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 1: was in Philly in twenty ten, which was Sean mcdermot's 1347 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 1: last year in Philly. That was Coleman's rookie season. I 1348 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 1: believe I think everybody knows what Coleman is. A lot 1349 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 1: of teams now like to line up with three safeties, 1350 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: and he could certainly fill that role. He's essentially a 1351 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 1: box player. He's much more of a glorified linebacker at 1352 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,480 Speaker 1: this point in his career. That's the way the Saints 1353 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,480 Speaker 1: used him last year. Very when he did play. It 1354 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 1: would depend on the opponent. If if you're playing again, 1355 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,479 Speaker 1: let's say you're playing against the Patriots and they're gonna 1356 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 1: line up with twenty one personnel, meaning the fallbacks on 1357 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 1: the field, Kirk Coleman could easily be a factor and 1358 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 1: be a part of that defense. He's not likely to 1359 01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 1: play against three wide receiver sets. He certainly is not 1360 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 1: a post safety. But I think he's a physical, tough, 1361 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,280 Speaker 1: competitive guy. My guess is he's great in the locker room. 1362 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 1: Obviously I don't know that. I'm not in the locker room, 1363 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 1: but that would be my guests. So I think that's 1364 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,120 Speaker 1: what he brings to the defense. Like Greg, you mentioned 1365 01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,880 Speaker 1: earlier that Adam Gaze as one of the more highly 1366 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 1: respected offensive minds in football, and we haven't seen Levion 1367 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 1: Bell for more than a year now. How is he 1368 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,880 Speaker 1: going to use Bell in his offense? Is it going 1369 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 1: to be similar until we saw in Pittsburgh different? What 1370 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,920 Speaker 1: do you expect that'll be fascinating. I don't know if 1371 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna get three hundred carries. You know, I happen 1372 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 1: to be at the Jets minicamp and Bell looked great 1373 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,680 Speaker 1: in terms of being in shape and just you know, 1374 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,840 Speaker 1: his body. He just looked really good. I think he'll 1375 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 1: be used more as a receiver. When I say more, 1376 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,160 Speaker 1: I know he's caught a lot of balls in Pittsburgh, 1377 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 1: but I think he'll run a wider array of routes. 1378 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 1: His last year in Pittsburgh it was a lot of 1379 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 1: screens and a lot of checkdowns. I think that Adam 1380 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 1: Gay sees him more as a guy that you could 1381 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 1: run intermediate, even vertical routes. He has that kind of ability. 1382 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 1: So I don't know if Bell will carry quite as much, 1383 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 1: but I think that you'll see him more involved in 1384 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 1: the passing game and in the types of routes he runs. 1385 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 1: But he'll still get two hundred fifty carries. I'm not 1386 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 1: suggesting he's not going to carry the ball much, but 1387 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 1: I don't think he'll have three hundred and thirty carries. Great, 1388 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,479 Speaker 1: you're at the Jets camp, you can answer this question. 1389 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 1: I would think authoritatively, Who's who's better? The Bills are 1390 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,400 Speaker 1: the Jets. I've seen people say the Jets are three 1391 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 1: wins better than the Bills this year. What do you think? Well, 1392 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, those are always hard questions we have to 1393 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,280 Speaker 1: answer now at the end of July. Yeah, obviously, both 1394 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 1: teams are counting on their their second year quarterbacks, who 1395 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,120 Speaker 1: are very good friends by the way, to uh, you know, 1396 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:06,120 Speaker 1: improve significantly. Obviously, the Bills did not change their coaching 1397 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 1: staff the Jets did. You know, much depends on the 1398 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 1: development and growth of the quarterbacks. You know, I think 1399 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 1: both teams feel that they'll be able to run the 1400 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,759 Speaker 1: ball with efficiency. You know, I think that the Bills 1401 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 1: clearly feel their offensive line will be better. I mean, look, 1402 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 1: the Bills have a new starting center who's very good. 1403 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,680 Speaker 1: They'll have a new left guard, Quentin Sayne. They'll have 1404 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,920 Speaker 1: a new right guard and Spencer Long, And I assume 1405 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 1: if is Cody Ford likely to be the starter at 1406 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,840 Speaker 1: right tackle. I would say likely is a good word, yes, 1407 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,920 Speaker 1: best way to put it. So, I mean four of 1408 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 1: their five offensive linemen will be different. I think Dion 1409 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,160 Speaker 1: Dawkins needs to improve as well. He struggled at times 1410 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 1: in one on one pass protection a year ago. But 1411 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,479 Speaker 1: I mean I think that you know, both teams have 1412 01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,640 Speaker 1: new players in important positions, and you know it all 1413 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 1: depends on how these players improve. But it starts at 1414 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. Gonna be fun, and I love the 1415 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 1: way the schedule sets up. The Bills open with the 1416 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 1: Jets and finished with the Jets final Sunday of the 1417 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,759 Speaker 1: regular season. It's gonna be fun. Hey, Greg, it's always 1418 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,479 Speaker 1: fun to talk with you. We're looking forward to getting 1419 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,200 Speaker 1: going on a regular basis three weeks from today, right 1420 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,840 Speaker 1: after the Bills Colts preseason game on Friday, August nine. 1421 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,360 Speaker 1: Thank you for this today. Good talking to you you 1422 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,759 Speaker 1: two guys. Thanks so much. Greg Cosell is executive producer 1423 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,759 Speaker 1: and analyst on NFL Matchup on ESPN, longtime senior producer 1424 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 1: in NFL films. He's a great guest for us on Fridays, Tyler, 1425 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you can see why and when 1426 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 1: you get down to previewing that next weekend's game and 1427 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 1: going back and looking at what the Bills did the 1428 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,439 Speaker 1: week before, after all the video he looks at, there's 1429 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,640 Speaker 1: nobody better than Greg. He's unbelievable. I mean, he was 1430 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,599 Speaker 1: just telling us he was on vacation but still couldn't 1431 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,640 Speaker 1: get away from the film, right, So I don't have 1432 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,760 Speaker 1: that issue. I mean, you know, I'm not grinding the 1433 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 1: all twenty two as they say no, but hey, you 1434 01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 1: know what, the film doesn't lie, and you know you 1435 01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,040 Speaker 1: can trust everything he's said as it is backed up 1436 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,000 Speaker 1: by fact and hours and hours and hours of looking 1437 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 1: at the stunt. Really good observations I thought about Josh 1438 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 1: Allen and and formIn Edmonds as well. Thanks to Great 1439 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 1: go Sell for joining us. Got a lot more show 1440 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,080 Speaker 1: to come, including What's for Lunch? That's up next, Come 1441 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,639 Speaker 1: on back for that. Tyler Dunn is here. Steve Tasker 1442 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,760 Speaker 1: out until Monday. Come on back One Bills Live from 1443 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 1: One Bills Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome Back 1444 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,639 Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Goals Drive. John Murphy with 1445 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,439 Speaker 1: Tyler Dunn from Bleacher Reports with us Steve is off today, 1446 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 1: Steve is back on Monday. Big weekend plan Satura. I'll 1447 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,519 Speaker 1: tell you from my perspective, if I ask you a question, 1448 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,800 Speaker 1: then I give you this is my last weekend of 1449 01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,160 Speaker 1: the year, really, and because you know, I'll be at 1450 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,200 Speaker 1: camp next weekend and there is the bye week coming up. 1451 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,400 Speaker 1: What is it October thirteenth or something. But for the 1452 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,559 Speaker 1: most part, I view this as the end of the 1453 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 1: weekends off, which is fine. I love the work, I 1454 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,479 Speaker 1: love the games. But it's a little bit, you know. 1455 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,400 Speaker 1: I have nothing planned for this weekend because I want 1456 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 1: to be totally free and wide open, knowing that it's 1457 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,679 Speaker 1: the last free and wide open weekend they'll happen until 1458 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 1: New Year's No trips to the finger Lakes, no Skinny 1459 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:13,920 Speaker 1: Atlas no, nope them Scanny Atlas tips yesterday, off air, Nope, 1460 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,360 Speaker 1: nothing planned. Nothing good. That's good. Yeah, it should be good. 1461 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,600 Speaker 1: But I believe me. Staring me in the face is 1462 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,160 Speaker 1: the fact that this is it. This is it. Here 1463 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,800 Speaker 1: comes camp and here comes the season, and we Steve 1464 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,439 Speaker 1: and I have talked about this and you you lived 1465 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,639 Speaker 1: this life too when you cover the NFL. The start 1466 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,760 Speaker 1: of training camp is the start of the season for 1467 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 1: me anyway, It's like it's it changes obviously on September eighth, ninth, 1468 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,200 Speaker 1: when the season begins, but it really is the start 1469 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:39,560 Speaker 1: of the season when they go to camp at the 1470 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,640 Speaker 1: end of July. Yeah. What a brutal lull in the 1471 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,960 Speaker 1: sports calendar right now, isn't it. I'm not a golf 1472 01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,360 Speaker 1: guy or a baseball guy. This is just I mean, 1473 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:47,800 Speaker 1: how many NICs do you just want to sit on 1474 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,320 Speaker 1: your couch and drink a beer and watch something and 1475 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,160 Speaker 1: there's just nothing now, there's nothing to to really get into. 1476 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,760 Speaker 1: So training camp is like that first plunge, you know. Yeah, 1477 01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 1: I love camp, Yeah I do. I'm a sucker for camp. 1478 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 1: Answered Ust, I'm going to a wedding in Ohio. So 1479 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 1: my cousins is getting married in Middlefield. It'll be fun. Middlefield. 1480 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 1: It's an Amish country, rural Cleveland, like an hour away 1481 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,760 Speaker 1: from Cleveland, so my mom's from there. Will be great. Yeah, 1482 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 1: that's good, have fun. Thanks a lot. Tyler's with us 1483 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,719 Speaker 1: today until three. Steve comes back on Monday, talking about 1484 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,480 Speaker 1: a lot of things, including the Bills and the afcast 1485 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,639 Speaker 1: and some of the big question marks. That topic remains 1486 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 1: open eight three fifty toll free one eight eight eight 1487 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty, or you can send us 1488 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:29,840 Speaker 1: a tweet. We might read it on the tweet sheet. 1489 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,919 Speaker 1: News of the day the Bills announcing today that safety 1490 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,800 Speaker 1: Raphael Bush has decided to retire after nine seasons in 1491 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,479 Speaker 1: the NFL. Played a lot for the Bills last year, 1492 01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 1: and the Bills have signed going into his tenth year. 1493 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,240 Speaker 1: Veteran safety Kurt Coleman last year with the New Orleans 1494 01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,479 Speaker 1: Prior to that, he was with the Eagles. Former seventh 1495 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 1: round pick of the Eagles, played there, played with Carolina. 1496 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 1: Kurt Coleman, Ohio state product, last year with the New 1497 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints ninth starts last year. He is now a 1498 01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,720 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill. Just six days or four camp begins all right, 1499 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,160 Speaker 1: one thirty three lunchtime. The show falls right smack dab 1500 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 1: in the middle of lunchtime. It's Steve Tasker's favorite segment 1501 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,920 Speaker 1: of the show. What's for Lunch? We're gonna play it 1502 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 1: with Tyler. We get a chance to determine what's your 1503 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 1: choice here? Do you want that great look in the 1504 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 1: chicken wing or would you like that piece of what 1505 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,639 Speaker 1: carp on? Two slices of Wonderbrad carp On. It sounds awful, 1506 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,960 Speaker 1: It looks awful. If you're watching on the video side, 1507 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,599 Speaker 1: it's terrible. They have illustrated for us what's for lunch? 1508 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,040 Speaker 1: We're picked our favorite. We make our pick today. What's 1509 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,000 Speaker 1: for lunch? Here we go, Tyler, you're ready? Here we go. 1510 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,200 Speaker 1: First Pro Bowl this year? For who Tredevious White or 1511 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,720 Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes. What do you think TuS White? Really? I 1512 01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,479 Speaker 1: think so. I think, you know, Jerry Hughes could have 1513 01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:43,320 Speaker 1: a really good season and finish with five six sacks. 1514 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,600 Speaker 1: You know, he's seems like he gets pressure year in 1515 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,439 Speaker 1: year out, but doesn't get the You know that that's 1516 01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:50,920 Speaker 1: position when to get into the Pro Bowl. It's so 1517 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,680 Speaker 1: predicated how many sacks you had. Tevious White is a 1518 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 1: top five cornerback already in the NFL. I think that 1519 01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,880 Speaker 1: finally everybody kind of notices it. I can't disagree with. 1520 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 1: I root for them both. I mean Jerry obviously for 1521 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,920 Speaker 1: longevity's sake, and how many years would he have left 1522 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,639 Speaker 1: and he's been a solid performer for the Bills. Really, 1523 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 1: in retrospect, one of the great trades in franchise history. Really, 1524 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,160 Speaker 1: Alvin Shephard for Jerry Hughes, so I would root for him. 1525 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,519 Speaker 1: I'd root for him both. But I agree with its 1526 01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 1: White is probably closer to making his first Pro Bowl 1527 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,680 Speaker 1: this year. We'll see what's for lunch, all right? How 1528 01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:29,000 Speaker 1: about this one? More impressive Barry Sanders duke or Marshawn 1529 01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:33,240 Speaker 1: Lynch stiff arm? Oh, man, you gotta go Barry Sanders 1530 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,799 Speaker 1: juke here right? I mean, man, just with this birthday 1531 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,679 Speaker 1: last week, was kind of falling down that YouTube rabbit 1532 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,240 Speaker 1: hole of watching old Barry Sanders clips and I mean 1533 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,640 Speaker 1: his knees, I mean, just unbelievable what he can to 1534 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,240 Speaker 1: just stop on a dime and change direction the way 1535 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,240 Speaker 1: he did it never stops being just you know all 1536 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 1: you will never see anything like it again. That's what 1537 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's it's unbelievable. He's the best player ever 1538 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,760 Speaker 1: to play the game in my book, Barry Sanders, no doubt, 1539 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,920 Speaker 1: best ever to play any position. Yeah, you know, and 1540 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,479 Speaker 1: look who's handing the Rodney Pete's hand him the ball there. 1541 01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,840 Speaker 1: You know, he's met met by a defender, you know, 1542 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,120 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage again and again and again. 1543 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,520 Speaker 1: Imagine what he would have done with a Dallas Cowboys 1544 01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,479 Speaker 1: offensive line, even a Buffalo Bill's offensive line. Um, he 1545 01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 1: had nothing around him. I think we just don't talk 1546 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 1: about him because he never when he played in the 1547 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:23,599 Speaker 1: playoffs once twice, and that's kind of where you make 1548 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:28,440 Speaker 1: your legacies. But just as a pure runner, pure football player, yeah, 1549 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 1: I'll take him over anybody. I would. I don't know 1550 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:32,760 Speaker 1: if I'm going that best ever, but I am going 1551 01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,000 Speaker 1: I would rather see him dance around a defender. And look, 1552 01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,479 Speaker 1: I have a healthy respect for Marshall Lynch and his 1553 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,960 Speaker 1: stiff arm and his toughness and the difficulty in bringing 1554 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 1: him down. But there was nobody like Barry Sanders for elusiveness, 1555 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:50,320 Speaker 1: pure speed, vision and joking, you know, just getting by 1556 01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,599 Speaker 1: people with incredible moves. Nothing like him in the NFL 1557 01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,000 Speaker 1: closest thing. And you remember OJ. You're too young to remember. 1558 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 1: OJ's little young for that. Remember OJ for other reasons, 1559 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,599 Speaker 1: but yeah, right, everybody does that. OJ was a little 1560 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 1: bit like that, you know, a little bit bigger than 1561 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,240 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders, but a little bit like that, just finding 1562 01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,519 Speaker 1: increases and holes and avenues to run where they didn't 1563 01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,120 Speaker 1: seem to be there. All right, what's for lunch. What 1564 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,840 Speaker 1: do you want? What do you prefer? Better? Second act 1565 01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 1: in his NFL career, This is an interesting one. Drew 1566 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,160 Speaker 1: Brees with the Saints, Peyton Manning with the Broncos. Can 1567 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,320 Speaker 1: I just say I don't. I know, it's his second team, 1568 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,280 Speaker 1: the Saints for Drew Brees, but I don't look at 1569 01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 1: that as a second act really, because he didn't play 1570 01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:31,639 Speaker 1: much in San Diego. I think his career really got 1571 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,200 Speaker 1: going when he went to New Orleans Saints. I think 1572 01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,760 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning they looked they both won super Bowls with 1573 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 1: those teams. But I think as a second act if 1574 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,880 Speaker 1: you look at it strictly in terms of a second 1575 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:45,160 Speaker 1: act after a good, successful first act, I guess Peyton 1576 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,879 Speaker 1: Manning had both, and winning a super Bowl with the Broncos, 1577 01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,840 Speaker 1: I think makes that better. Yeah, I'll go with Drew 1578 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,639 Speaker 1: Brees if I'm going to look at that second act 1579 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,240 Speaker 1: as even you know him at this stage of his career, 1580 01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,080 Speaker 1: at thirty nine and forty years old, these last two years, 1581 01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he's still one of the best quarterbacks in 1582 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,519 Speaker 1: the game. And it's just talk about bad luck. I mean, 1583 01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,360 Speaker 1: you've got the Minneapolis miracle in twenty seventeen when he 1584 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,439 Speaker 1: has in one of the best seasons of his career. 1585 01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 1: The Saints have a Super Bowl you know worthy team, 1586 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,080 Speaker 1: and then last year within Nkel Robie Coleman pass interference, 1587 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they should have won that game. In the 1588 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 1: year you're talking about two Super Bowl championships there they 1589 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,240 Speaker 1: got away from the Saints. Yeah, they have to agonize. 1590 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,839 Speaker 1: I'm sure they do. Peyton leaning the chart to agonize 1591 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 1: over the non call on Robie Coleman, and you know, 1592 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,439 Speaker 1: and it's an important call and it's impacted the game 1593 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:36,719 Speaker 1: and giving us the stupid pass interference replay challenges this year. 1594 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,320 Speaker 1: But you know what, I don't. I'm not saying I 1595 01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,880 Speaker 1: like that play, but I like the fact that it 1596 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,559 Speaker 1: was Nickel Robie Coleman. Yes, you know, yes, you know him, 1597 01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,160 Speaker 1: you remember, Oh, he's one of the best. He's a 1598 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,400 Speaker 1: great Talking to him with the Super Bowl about that play, 1599 01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 1: he fully admits he interfered. He knows he interfered. He said, 1600 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm just making a play and the play at that 1601 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,760 Speaker 1: point it had to be no way does he catch 1602 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 1: his ball fully anticipating he owned it. Yeah, and when 1603 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,880 Speaker 1: the fly didn't get it, And that's why I look 1604 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,679 Speaker 1: at that play. I'm distressed that it caused the league 1605 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 1: to change a rule, which I think is stupid. But 1606 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,479 Speaker 1: I like the fact that a guy that I know 1607 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,280 Speaker 1: and a guy that I really appreciate as a player 1608 01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,479 Speaker 1: and as a guy, Robie Coleman, was right in the 1609 01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 1: middle of that. I like that play. One of the 1610 01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:17,439 Speaker 1: best personalities in the entire game. And what a win 1611 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 1: for cornerbacks that I mean they have to play with 1612 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,439 Speaker 1: both hands tied behind their backs. It's like, I mean, 1613 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,479 Speaker 1: does the NFL want their position to go extinct? It's 1614 01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,400 Speaker 1: unbelievable year and a year out what we see. So 1615 01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,640 Speaker 1: it's good to see just a terrible non call in 1616 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,280 Speaker 1: that situation. The NFL reeps what it sow is. Can 1617 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,000 Speaker 1: we talk about that when we get out of the segment. 1618 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 1: I want to talk about replay because I have strong 1619 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,800 Speaker 1: feelings about it and I'm interested to see what you say. 1620 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,920 Speaker 1: We continue on with once for lunch. How about this one? 1621 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:47,000 Speaker 1: This is interesting NFL celebrations. Should all players be allowed 1622 01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,960 Speaker 1: to participate, all those guys on the bench or just 1623 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,720 Speaker 1: only ones on the field. I don't care. I don't 1624 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,639 Speaker 1: really don't care. What do you think you know? I'm 1625 01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,200 Speaker 1: all more celebrated. I want more, you know, like it 1626 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,840 Speaker 1: makes the game fun. Heck, know what, get rid of 1627 01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,000 Speaker 1: tawny penalties. I want to see more taunts? Yeah, yeah, 1628 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:05,400 Speaker 1: let's bring it on. You know, if you if you 1629 01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,559 Speaker 1: can just race away from a guy and you've got 1630 01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 1: a good ten yard distance, you should be able to 1631 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 1: taunt and should be rewarding. No, but I don't want 1632 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,559 Speaker 1: to see that fifteen yard penalty. You know what's cool 1633 01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,040 Speaker 1: about taunting or what could be cool if if they 1634 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:18,360 Speaker 1: allow it to happen and then you don't taunt, wouldn't 1635 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,519 Speaker 1: you have ultimate respect of a guy? You like? It's 1636 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,160 Speaker 1: one thing if a guy doesn't talk because he doesn't 1637 01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,680 Speaker 1: want to take a fifteen yard penalty and so he 1638 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,840 Speaker 1: won't even though he may want to. But if you're 1639 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,840 Speaker 1: allowed to taunt and you don't, I take my hat 1640 01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,680 Speaker 1: off to you. That's great. You could do that. You 1641 01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,519 Speaker 1: could taunt if you want it. But you're so cool 1642 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,519 Speaker 1: and so good and so confident that you don't talk. 1643 01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,080 Speaker 1: Come on, that's that's almost the best. Yeah, maybe that's generational. Man, 1644 01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,400 Speaker 1: you're rubbing in their face a little bit. It's a 1645 01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,400 Speaker 1: it's an emotional game. You know what. Adrenaline's pumping, testosterone's 1646 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,600 Speaker 1: liability to taunt and being so cool about it that 1647 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,880 Speaker 1: you're so good and so confident. I'm not. I don't 1648 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 1: need to taunt. I just own you. On that play, 1649 01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,120 Speaker 1: you're almost saying something if you don't talk well. I 1650 01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,559 Speaker 1: love Barry Sanders. He never did anything, never did it? 1651 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,840 Speaker 1: Not right? You're right? Last one and what's for lunch? 1652 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:08,680 Speaker 1: More impressive final season in the NFL? John Elway won 1653 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. This one's for John or Jim Brown? The 1654 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:15,799 Speaker 1: Brown helped the Cleveland Browns reach a championship in nineteen 1655 01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,000 Speaker 1: sixty five with twenty one touchdowns fifteen hundred yards rushing. 1656 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,960 Speaker 1: Do people remember Jim Brown? You remember Jim Brown? Do 1657 01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,360 Speaker 1: you remember see him play? You know this is a 1658 01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,880 Speaker 1: John always slam dunk for me, because I mean, he's 1659 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:28,880 Speaker 1: the guys trying to tackle Jim Brown or you know, 1660 01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,600 Speaker 1: shoemakers and bakers, and you know they had to have 1661 01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,040 Speaker 1: side jobs way back then, right Joe. That didn't make 1662 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:37,680 Speaker 1: them lesser players, did it? I think the league was 1663 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,439 Speaker 1: good back then. But I'll go with that way too. 1664 01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,439 Speaker 1: To want the Super Bowl? Hey, I'll go with that. 1665 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,800 Speaker 1: What's for lunch. There you go. That's uh, what for lunch. 1666 01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,439 Speaker 1: We got a lot more to talk about, including our 1667 01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:48,719 Speaker 1: topic of the day, the Bills. Outside the Bills, what's 1668 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,000 Speaker 1: the biggest question mark in the AFC East. Phone lines 1669 01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,000 Speaker 1: wide open if you'd like to phone in eight oh 1670 01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,200 Speaker 1: three oh five fifty toll free one eight eight eight 1671 01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:01,640 Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty and we'll talk about that. Patriots, Jets, Dolphins, 1672 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 1: what's their biggest issues? Also, let's get into it a 1673 01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,919 Speaker 1: little bit about the use of replay on past interference. 1674 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,599 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that when we come back as well. 1675 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,120 Speaker 1: Tyler Down with us One Bills Live from One Bill's 1676 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:22,680 Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back One Bill's Live. 1677 01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 1: John Murphy here, Tyler Down is with us from bleacher Report. 1678 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 1: I didn't ask you, what are you working on Bleacher 1679 01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,640 Speaker 1: Report these days? What's what's up next? What we look for? 1680 01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,799 Speaker 1: Do you want to tell you or you're afraid to preview? 1681 01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,200 Speaker 1: We've got We've got ESPN and Sports Hilst everybody's listening 1682 01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,120 Speaker 1: into this show, so you can't can't tip our head. 1683 01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,280 Speaker 1: Now we've got we've got a couple of stories coming 1684 01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,040 Speaker 1: next week that we spent some time on say, one 1685 01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,600 Speaker 1: team that's in a similar position as Buffalo, you know, 1686 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,559 Speaker 1: year three of a regime, and hey, they're talking super Bowl. 1687 01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:51,599 Speaker 1: Who's who's that? I guess we can tell forty nine ers. Okay, yeah, 1688 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,559 Speaker 1: they're talking super Bowl out there. I guess you have 1689 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,640 Speaker 1: to tune into Bleach Report right and check it out 1690 01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,840 Speaker 1: next week. So no time out there, spend some time 1691 01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:02,400 Speaker 1: with the team with multiple players. John Lynch spoke at 1692 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,240 Speaker 1: length with him about the expectations out there, very very 1693 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's you know, they want him as the 1694 01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,479 Speaker 1: face of the organization, that's for sure. Yes, can't tell 1695 01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,080 Speaker 1: you my quick John Lynch story. This is one of 1696 01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:13,960 Speaker 1: the reasons I always liked him as a player. But 1697 01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:15,519 Speaker 1: he's coming through here. A couple of years ago we 1698 01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,719 Speaker 1: were in our old studio, just a little radio show. 1699 01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:19,720 Speaker 1: He was working on the network. Where do you work 1700 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,680 Speaker 1: for Fox? I think for like eight nine years. He 1701 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:24,719 Speaker 1: was there for a while. And it was the Friday, 1702 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,280 Speaker 1: unfortunately of the massacre at Newtown in Connecticut. I remember 1703 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 1: the school shooting, and remember that was it was all 1704 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,920 Speaker 1: over the TV Friday afternoon. John Lynch is here doing 1705 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,880 Speaker 1: his production meeting, agreed to do our show. He comes 1706 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,519 Speaker 1: in where I'm kind of watching it on the TV. 1707 01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:39,280 Speaker 1: He and I sat there for like an hour and 1708 01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,080 Speaker 1: a half while all that was being unveiled on TV, 1709 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,439 Speaker 1: and we're both kind of like choked up, and we 1710 01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,040 Speaker 1: kind of bonded as you might, you know, in both 1711 01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,160 Speaker 1: his parents and obviously just humans. And I was really 1712 01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,880 Speaker 1: impressed as I look back on it at just what 1713 01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,720 Speaker 1: a what a real guy John Lynch is you know, yes, 1714 01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,880 Speaker 1: he's a star in the NFL Star Player now it's 1715 01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,160 Speaker 1: our GM as you said, the faces of the franchise, 1716 01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,760 Speaker 1: but a real person. And that was a difficult day 1717 01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:06,920 Speaker 1: that Friday afternoon. It was tough, big time. I mean, 1718 01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:08,640 Speaker 1: right right behind his desk, I mean, he's got a 1719 01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,720 Speaker 1: huge portrait of his family. I mean and when he 1720 01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,320 Speaker 1: took this job, I mean Kyle Shanahan both kind of 1721 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,680 Speaker 1: said that we need to value family. You know that 1722 01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:19,360 Speaker 1: that job can destroy any family, destroy any marriage. And 1723 01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,439 Speaker 1: they really do kind of value that family time they're 1724 01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,480 Speaker 1: incorporated and everything. So that, yeah, that doesn't surprise me. Garoppolo, 1725 01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,400 Speaker 1: your thoughts. I talked to him at length that his 1726 01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,439 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl coming out where Western Illinois Eastern? Where was 1727 01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:34,080 Speaker 1: it Western? Right? Eastern Illinois, Eastern Illinois, and he had 1728 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,840 Speaker 1: a really good uh what's the All Star game? East 1729 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,439 Speaker 1: West Shrine game before the Senior Bowl. Really good week. 1730 01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,479 Speaker 1: He was a last minute invitee to the Senior Bowl. 1731 01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:46,200 Speaker 1: Played well down there, but just an impressive guy, smart, polished. 1732 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:47,760 Speaker 1: I liked him, and this is going back at the 1733 01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,000 Speaker 1: start of his NFL career. I liked him. Good head 1734 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,280 Speaker 1: of hair, a good jaw line, right, yeah, Tan, Yeah, 1735 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:54,840 Speaker 1: Now we just have to see if he can play quarterback. 1736 01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:56,640 Speaker 1: You know, he hasn't been out there. What do you 1737 01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,479 Speaker 1: think many they think? So, you know, they gave h 1738 01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,120 Speaker 1: a hundred thirty seven and a half million dollar contract, 1739 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,200 Speaker 1: but that has an escape clause, you know, in twenty twenties, 1740 01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,080 Speaker 1: so you know, he could easily be made the scapegoat 1741 01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,280 Speaker 1: if it is all hype if he can't play. Now 1742 01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,360 Speaker 1: it looks like he can, but they gave him that 1743 01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,880 Speaker 1: contract after just a handful of starts, and they really 1744 01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,240 Speaker 1: think that they can get a McVeigh golf like, you know, 1745 01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:24,240 Speaker 1: quarterback coach connection going between Garoppolo and Kyle Shanahan, and 1746 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,360 Speaker 1: Shannahan's wildly consider one of the best offensive minds. But 1747 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,160 Speaker 1: he's got to do it. And then when I was 1748 01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,280 Speaker 1: out there, that was kind of the hesitation, even in 1749 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:35,080 Speaker 1: Lynch's voice, Richard Sherman's voice. You know, they're all excited 1750 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,680 Speaker 1: about Jimmy Garoppolo, but they've got to see it with 1751 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,960 Speaker 1: regularity on the field, and hey he does. He's got 1752 01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:43,320 Speaker 1: George Kittle as you see on the screen. I mean, 1753 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 1: he might be the best tight end and all of football, 1754 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,120 Speaker 1: but at wide receiver, not a lot there. They poured 1755 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,639 Speaker 1: a lot of money into running back. Just just interesting 1756 01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,639 Speaker 1: how this team came together. Do you think you're good 1757 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:57,240 Speaker 1: tough division? Man? I I think they. I think that 1758 01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,080 Speaker 1: they can tell that direction. I think that they can 1759 01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:02,840 Speaker 1: absolutely contenders if they stay healthy. But hey, this could 1760 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,920 Speaker 1: also fall apart too. You know, they they didn't have 1761 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,479 Speaker 1: the benefit of drafting, you know, a Mahomes at your 1762 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,680 Speaker 1: bisky Deshaun Watson when when they could have. And if 1763 01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:13,519 Speaker 1: you get one of those guys, then you can pay 1764 01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, blank checks to anybody you want like the 1765 01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:18,320 Speaker 1: Rams did. I think we were all stunned that the 1766 01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,200 Speaker 1: Rams just signed vet after vet after vet, and that's 1767 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,080 Speaker 1: the reason they were in the Super Bowl. So the 1768 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,320 Speaker 1: forty nine ers had that opportunity and they weren't able 1769 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,320 Speaker 1: to take advantage of it. So that I think that's 1770 01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,680 Speaker 1: where there's a little pressure mounting here that you know, 1771 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:31,880 Speaker 1: I know they've got those six year contracts, but if 1772 01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,439 Speaker 1: they don't win this year, heads could roll. Year three 1773 01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,080 Speaker 1: is when you have to see it. Yep. Interesting, that's 1774 01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,200 Speaker 1: coming up on bleacher Report right. Hey, let me ask 1775 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,080 Speaker 1: you something. Did you see this? I'm sure you did. 1776 01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,920 Speaker 1: We talked about it briefly off the year. Brett Fire 1777 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,920 Speaker 1: speaking this week about kind of revealing something about his 1778 01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,680 Speaker 1: career that you say you've heard before. I've never heard 1779 01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:52,599 Speaker 1: him say this, but listen to this if you haven't 1780 01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,559 Speaker 1: heard it. Brett Fire tells a story about trying to 1781 01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,240 Speaker 1: make his way through the early portion of his NFL 1782 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,160 Speaker 1: career and getting a little help from a fellow quarterback, 1783 01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,960 Speaker 1: Tie Deptner. Listen to this. But I was afraid to ask. 1784 01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,599 Speaker 1: I'm a starter, you know, Tie Depor was over there, 1785 01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, And so after about our second year, I says, uh, 1786 01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:19,639 Speaker 1: final ascid. I just got to know. So I said, Tie, um, 1787 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,000 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you a question. And Tie was about 1788 01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:25,160 Speaker 1: as goofy as I was. He says, Oh, what's that? 1789 01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:29,920 Speaker 1: I said, what's the Nickel defense? He gets real quiet. 1790 01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:35,439 Speaker 1: He says, you're serious. He said, yeah, I'm serious. He says, well, 1791 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:41,160 Speaker 1: they basically take out a linebacker and bring in a dB. 1792 01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:51,080 Speaker 1: I said, that's it. That's it, I said, who gives 1793 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:56,280 Speaker 1: it a big laugh, especially for his dismissal at the end. 1794 01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,839 Speaker 1: You were around far right when you remember the packers? 1795 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,080 Speaker 1: Is that is that a true story? First of all, yes, 1796 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,400 Speaker 1: one hundred percent true. So I got to know Tid Detmer, 1797 01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, pretty well, just you know, giving him a 1798 01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,439 Speaker 1: call for different stories, and he's just great to talk to. 1799 01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:10,439 Speaker 1: You know, you could talk to Ti Deptman forever and 1800 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,920 Speaker 1: he brought that story up, so it's kind of in 1801 01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,479 Speaker 1: the back of my mind. And then we were able 1802 01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:16,160 Speaker 1: to sit down with Brett farve Um, you know, for 1803 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,120 Speaker 1: a long story at the Milwaukee Jurtle setting Hill down 1804 01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:19,800 Speaker 1: to his house and which, by the way, I thought 1805 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,439 Speaker 1: I was gonna get maybe a half hour with with 1806 01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,799 Speaker 1: Brett Farve and you know, it's one story after another 1807 01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,679 Speaker 1: story and another story, and we're talking for three plus 1808 01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:31,759 Speaker 1: hours Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Sippi. Yeah, yeah, you spent how about 1809 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,280 Speaker 1: three hours? Three hours just on his back deck. He 1810 01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,600 Speaker 1: was just unbelievable with his time. He's a storyteller and 1811 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,240 Speaker 1: he brought that up himself. So it's true. I mean 1812 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:45,120 Speaker 1: that's what makes Brett Farve, you know, special, great? How 1813 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:48,120 Speaker 1: do you get that far in his career? I just 1814 01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:49,920 Speaker 1: second or third year. I think he just thought, who 1815 01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:51,840 Speaker 1: who cares, I'm gonna I'm gonna gun it in there. 1816 01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,320 Speaker 1: You know, whether it's a linebacker or a dB, I 1817 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:58,320 Speaker 1: don't care. Yeah. Far great, right, great guy, good man. Yeah, unbelievable, 1818 01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,720 Speaker 1: you know. He The thing about Brett Farve, it's like 1819 01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:03,599 Speaker 1: it's almost like you've known him your whole life. When 1820 01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:05,760 Speaker 1: you meet him for the first time and he's constantly 1821 01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,799 Speaker 1: asking you questions about about your life. He's like, hey, 1822 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,360 Speaker 1: where you're from? I mentioned Buffalo, and he talked about 1823 01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,439 Speaker 1: his relationship with with Jim Kelly, how they go hunting, 1824 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,040 Speaker 1: and so where'd you go to college? And I said Syracuse. 1825 01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,920 Speaker 1: He goes, ah, Syracuse. You know one of my buddies. 1826 01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,519 Speaker 1: We've got a hunting camp up there, and we'd hunt 1827 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,960 Speaker 1: wild board in the snow. They just stood out like 1828 01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,639 Speaker 1: cows or I'm paraphrase, and it was something like that. 1829 01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,160 Speaker 1: But of course he's got a Buffalo story to Syracuse story. 1830 01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,320 Speaker 1: You know, what does Brett Farve do? He has commercials, 1831 01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:32,720 Speaker 1: I see, But what does he do these days? I 1832 01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,679 Speaker 1: think he's just chilling down there, you know, hunting, fishing. 1833 01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,920 Speaker 1: He pops on a serious XM. I think once in 1834 01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,599 Speaker 1: a while, you know, he still does media here and there, 1835 01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,160 Speaker 1: but I think for the most part he's once and 1836 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,000 Speaker 1: for all kind of settled down. And it wasn't easy 1837 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:50,640 Speaker 1: for him. You know, he felt that itch on that property, 1838 01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,559 Speaker 1: you know, year after year after year and couldn't quit 1839 01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,920 Speaker 1: this game. But I think that's why we could all 1840 01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:57,600 Speaker 1: relate to Brett Farve. You know, we all have a 1841 01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,840 Speaker 1: little far of end us that that competitive desire. I 1842 01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:02,680 Speaker 1: think even Packer fans have come around to him and 1843 01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,439 Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that he wanted to stick it to 1844 01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,360 Speaker 1: the Packers, which at the time they weren't really appreciating it, 1845 01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,360 Speaker 1: not at all. All Right, we got Tyler done with 1846 01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,559 Speaker 1: us one more hour ago. We will talk about replay 1847 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,400 Speaker 1: when we come back. We will get back to our 1848 01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:17,280 Speaker 1: topic of the day about the rest of the AFC 1849 01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,640 Speaker 1: East and the question marks in the division, all of that. 1850 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,719 Speaker 1: When we come back for our number three. One Bill's 1851 01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,360 Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive. This 1852 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:38,719 Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello Bills Radio Network Sports Update 1853 01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,080 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. The Bills with a roster move today, 1854 01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:44,200 Speaker 1: just six days before they go to training camp, necessitated 1855 01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:47,759 Speaker 1: by the retirement of veteran safety Raphael Bush. He's decided 1856 01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,280 Speaker 1: to retire after nine seasons in the NFL, the valuable 1857 01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:54,280 Speaker 1: deaf guy for the Bills last year, agreeing to a 1858 01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,840 Speaker 1: two year contract with the Bills last year, appeared in 1859 01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,679 Speaker 1: fifteen games seven starts with the Bills last year. Rafael 1860 01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,720 Speaker 1: Bush designing to retire, and the Bills immediately jump on 1861 01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:05,559 Speaker 1: safety Kurt Coleman, another veteran going into his tenth year. 1862 01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,320 Speaker 1: He's thirty one years old. Last year, he spent with 1863 01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,320 Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints sixteen games, nine starts with the Saints, 1864 01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:15,040 Speaker 1: recorded thirty tackles and one force fumble over his career. 1865 01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,400 Speaker 1: Now nine years in the NFL, one under thirty two 1866 01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:21,559 Speaker 1: career games for Kurt Coleman, eighty three starts, two sacks, 1867 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,519 Speaker 1: twenty one interceptions. Came into the league as a seventh 1868 01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,080 Speaker 1: round pick of the Philadelphia Eagles, where he played for 1869 01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:29,800 Speaker 1: Sean McDermot and played for McDermott again when he spent 1870 01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:33,759 Speaker 1: four years with the Carolina Panthers. Kurt Coleman, Ohio state product, 1871 01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,200 Speaker 1: now with a Buffalo Bill six days to fourt camp 1872 01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:38,960 Speaker 1: roster moved by the Bills. NFL is not going to 1873 01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:42,280 Speaker 1: suspend Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Tyreek Hill. He can 1874 01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,400 Speaker 1: attend their training camp, which opens next Friday. Leek says 1875 01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:49,559 Speaker 1: if further information becomes available through allegations about domestic violence 1876 01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:53,360 Speaker 1: from law enforcement, they will promptly consider those allegations and 1877 01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:57,000 Speaker 1: take appropriate steps. At that time, Jets getting set for 1878 01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,479 Speaker 1: their first practice, and it looks like number three overall 1879 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,560 Speaker 1: pick Quinn and Williams might not report with his teammates 1880 01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:05,519 Speaker 1: to training camp. He's still unsigned. The plan was for 1881 01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:07,240 Speaker 1: him to fly in Thursday, but he was not on 1882 01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,320 Speaker 1: the flight he was supposed to be Last year. The 1883 01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,559 Speaker 1: Jets first rounder quarterback Sam Darnold also missed the first 1884 01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:16,240 Speaker 1: few practices. Baltimore opens its training camp practices without their 1885 01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:20,559 Speaker 1: first round pick, White receiver Marquise Brown among four rookies 1886 01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:23,720 Speaker 1: put on the non football injury list. Brown underwent Lisz 1887 01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:27,000 Speaker 1: Frank surgery in February, a month before he was drafted 1888 01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,320 Speaker 1: by the Baltimore Ravens and the man cited for a 1889 01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:33,240 Speaker 1: flashing a laser at Patriots quarterback Tom Brady has been 1890 01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,680 Speaker 1: fined five hundred dollars British Open Tiger Woods his head 1891 01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,040 Speaker 1: at home. He will miss the cut. He made two 1892 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,479 Speaker 1: straight bogies at the end today, finish one hundred seventy 1893 01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:43,519 Speaker 1: four the tournament. Not good enough to make an end 1894 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,920 Speaker 1: the Bison's home tonight. I opened it up a series 1895 01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:49,840 Speaker 1: against Columbus, three game weekend series with Columbus righthander Connor 1896 01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:53,240 Speaker 1: Fisk on the mound for the Bisons. John Murfy here, 1897 01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,040 Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. We got Tyler Dunn from 1898 01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,400 Speaker 1: Bleacher Report in studio with us. Happy to have you 1899 01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:59,200 Speaker 1: with us. Did I get the British Open scores? I 1900 01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:02,519 Speaker 1: did not. Shane Lowry of Ireland a co leader of 1901 01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,040 Speaker 1: the British Open, he shot a sixty seven today. He's 1902 01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:08,360 Speaker 1: eight under. He's tied with American JB. Holmes also at 1903 01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,400 Speaker 1: eight under. You don't care about the British Open. You 1904 01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:14,000 Speaker 1: made that clear title because the guy you're replacing, he 1905 01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,479 Speaker 1: was all over the British Open earlier this week practice round. 1906 01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:19,120 Speaker 1: You know what, the golf for the first time ever 1907 01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:22,920 Speaker 1: at Matt Fairburn's bachelor party up in Toronto a few 1908 01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:25,640 Speaker 1: weeks back. And where'd you play? I don't, you know, 1909 01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:27,559 Speaker 1: I have no idea. One of one of the choruses 1910 01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,040 Speaker 1: up in Toronto. I don't know if I made it. 1911 01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,759 Speaker 1: I don't think I completed one hole. We went through eighteen, 1912 01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:35,280 Speaker 1: but I just kind of, you know, would shimmy up 1913 01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,400 Speaker 1: to keep up with everybody else, to pace a play, 1914 01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,559 Speaker 1: picked up your ball and yeah, I you know, I'm 1915 01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,679 Speaker 1: just terrible. I just can't. It's too fickle of a game. 1916 01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard. I'm terrible too, But I have 1917 01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,479 Speaker 1: no problem being terrible and playing. I don't play much. 1918 01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:50,519 Speaker 1: I think I played eight times this year, maybe, which 1919 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,920 Speaker 1: is I was thinking the other games a lot. Not really, 1920 01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,479 Speaker 1: there was twenty years ago. I probably played twenty five 1921 01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,439 Speaker 1: thirty times a year. I'm down, I'm worried down, and 1922 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,240 Speaker 1: it's you know what I've noticed this is this could 1923 01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,000 Speaker 1: be an old guy thing. Steve and I have talked 1924 01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,640 Speaker 1: about it, and he's, well, he's almost my age. The 1925 01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:08,960 Speaker 1: older you get, the less you want to play eighteen 1926 01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,000 Speaker 1: holes of golf. Nine holes is fine, twelve holes is perfect. 1927 01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,880 Speaker 1: And I was talking to a pro golf pro about 1928 01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:16,639 Speaker 1: this and he goes, yeah, a lot of people tell 1929 01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,400 Speaker 1: me that they don't eighteen holes is too much. Yeah, 1930 01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,439 Speaker 1: that's a time suck, isn't it. You know, you're away 1931 01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:22,760 Speaker 1: from reality a little too long, and when you're not good, 1932 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,320 Speaker 1: it's like, what am I doing here? Making myself feel awful? 1933 01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,519 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. Quit this question. We turn 1934 01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,679 Speaker 1: this into an intervention to go cold turkey. Yeah, welcome 1935 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:33,080 Speaker 1: to the show. We got a lot to talk about 1936 01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,240 Speaker 1: in this third and final hour. We started the day 1937 01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,600 Speaker 1: and we will continue talking about the AFC East. You 1938 01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:39,880 Speaker 1: may have some thoughts on this. Tyler and I have 1939 01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,400 Speaker 1: the AFC East. Yes, we know all about the Bills, 1940 01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:45,840 Speaker 1: all about their question marks, offensive line, quarterback. Can the 1941 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:47,800 Speaker 1: defense do what they did last year? We've talked about 1942 01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,080 Speaker 1: all this, but there are questions for the others in 1943 01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,760 Speaker 1: the AFC East as well, the Patriots. What are the 1944 01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:56,280 Speaker 1: Patriots without Gunkowski? Where is Tom Brady in the course 1945 01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,719 Speaker 1: of his career? Now the Jets brand new coaching staff, 1946 01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:04,519 Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator, in particular, Sam Darnold's second year the Dolphins. 1947 01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:07,120 Speaker 1: Who's going to be their starting quarterback? Rosen or Fitzpatrick? 1948 01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:09,800 Speaker 1: Questions all over the AFC East. What do you think 1949 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,720 Speaker 1: the biggest question marks are for the Bills opponents in 1950 01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,320 Speaker 1: the AFC East? Outside of the Bills. What's the biggest 1951 01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,000 Speaker 1: question mark in the AFC East? Phone lines open eight 1952 01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:22,000 Speaker 1: three fifty, twenty three one eight eight eight five fifty two, 1953 01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:24,400 Speaker 1: five fifty you can send in a tweet. Let's read 1954 01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:26,439 Speaker 1: some of them from the tweet sheet brought to you 1955 01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:30,600 Speaker 1: by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. 1956 01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,720 Speaker 1: Outside of the Bills, the biggest question mark in the 1957 01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,719 Speaker 1: AFC East, Ronnie sends us, And there are question marks 1958 01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:38,760 Speaker 1: with the Patriots Brady's age and Gronk retirement, but they 1959 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,080 Speaker 1: always seem to answer those. No question with the Dolphins, 1960 01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,400 Speaker 1: they aren't very good right now. So for me, it's 1961 01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,240 Speaker 1: the Jets and can Darnold take another step? And can 1962 01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:50,599 Speaker 1: Gae learn to be a quality head coach? Okay, Ronnie, 1963 01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:56,439 Speaker 1: you've covered all three teams? What would another step look like? 1964 01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:59,479 Speaker 1: I'm curious about this, he said, Can Darneld take another step? 1965 01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,160 Speaker 1: Would the next step look like? For Sam Darnold? He 1966 01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,559 Speaker 1: is different, as you've accurately pointed out Tyler from the 1967 01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,400 Speaker 1: Bills guy right from Josh Allen. What would the next 1968 01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:11,240 Speaker 1: step look like for Sam Darnold. I guess how close 1969 01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:13,400 Speaker 1: it was he last year to his ceiling. I don't 1970 01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:16,200 Speaker 1: have that answer, but I'm eager and curious to find out. 1971 01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:19,679 Speaker 1: Maybe this year we will Yeah, probably less risk taking. 1972 01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,400 Speaker 1: I think he finished with what seventeen interceptions, so a 1973 01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:25,840 Speaker 1: little high, it seemed like toward the end of the season, though, 1974 01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:28,240 Speaker 1: he calmed down a little bit and he grew up 1975 01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:30,960 Speaker 1: pretty rapidly. I mean, his numbers the last three four 1976 01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,760 Speaker 1: games were way way better than they were the first 1977 01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:36,559 Speaker 1: couple months of the season. So things seem to click. Now. 1978 01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,519 Speaker 1: You bring in Adam Gas, you bring in Levion Bell, 1979 01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:43,240 Speaker 1: you bring in a new system. You would normally think 1980 01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:46,320 Speaker 1: that that's not a good thing to have to relearn 1981 01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:49,840 Speaker 1: reteach yourself something completely new. But I think this is 1982 01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:51,559 Speaker 1: all great for Sam Darnold. I mean, this is going 1983 01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,519 Speaker 1: to be a much more quarterback friendly system. You heard 1984 01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:57,519 Speaker 1: Greg Cosell earlier. He really considers Adam Gaze one of 1985 01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:59,640 Speaker 1: the top offensive minds in the game. He will at 1986 01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:01,200 Speaker 1: least be better than what he had last year, you 1987 01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:03,760 Speaker 1: would think and levy On Bells a quarterback's best friend. 1988 01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:05,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna use him in a lot of 1989 01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:10,000 Speaker 1: different spots all over the field as a running back alone. 1990 01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:13,040 Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna take pressure off too, So I 1991 01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:17,080 Speaker 1: would think just overall, just you know, less mistakes, less 1992 01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:21,439 Speaker 1: turnovers for Sam Darnold would really be the next step 1993 01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:24,680 Speaker 1: for him. Does he will? He missed Josh McCown at all. 1994 01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:27,080 Speaker 1: He's got Trevor Simeon backing him up and a couple 1995 01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,320 Speaker 1: of others. I mean, I don't want to overstate the 1996 01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,840 Speaker 1: contributions of a veteran like Josh McCown, but he had 1997 01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:36,679 Speaker 1: to mean something to a rookie and untested rookie last year, right, Definitely. 1998 01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:38,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you're not going to find one person in 1999 01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:41,360 Speaker 1: the entire NFL they'll say a bad word about Josh McCown, 2000 01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:45,320 Speaker 1: maybe the most respected veteran in the league, at least 2001 01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:48,559 Speaker 1: at his position. It's it's unbelievable how everybody who's ever 2002 01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:52,320 Speaker 1: been around this guy loves Josh McCown. So you have 2003 01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:56,519 Speaker 1: to think he had a huge effect on Sam Darnold's career. 2004 01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,160 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure what else he probably could 2005 01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:02,640 Speaker 1: have said or to help him, though, you know, I 2006 01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:05,720 Speaker 1: kind of think that was a one year type of mentorship. 2007 01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:09,519 Speaker 1: Then you know, hey, it's your team though. Yeah, yeah, look, 2008 01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,040 Speaker 1: I'll say it right now. After the Bills, I think 2009 01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:14,320 Speaker 1: the Jets are the most interesting team in the division, 2010 01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:16,920 Speaker 1: do you agree. I mean, with the with the coaching staff, 2011 01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,920 Speaker 1: with Donald in his second year, with the additions Mosley, 2012 01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:22,639 Speaker 1: as you pointed out on defense, with the Quinnon Williams, 2013 01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:25,360 Speaker 1: with the first rounder, with Levan Bell, they are the 2014 01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:27,960 Speaker 1: most intriguing team. Are they a nine win team? I 2015 01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:31,439 Speaker 1: don't know about that. They have that upheaval in the 2016 01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,759 Speaker 1: football department in the offseason, which you'd like to avoid. 2017 01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,320 Speaker 1: Although what impact doesn't have on wins and losses I 2018 01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,120 Speaker 1: guess we'll find out. Yeah, you know, that upheaval could 2019 01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,160 Speaker 1: could be an issue, but they definitely brought in a 2020 01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,320 Speaker 1: really good football mine in Douglas. I mean, he's he's 2021 01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:47,680 Speaker 1: really well respected and you just wonder, though, is he 2022 01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:51,000 Speaker 1: going to try to undo a lot of the mistakes 2023 01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,160 Speaker 1: in his mind from mc canyon and the past regime, 2024 01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:56,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he didn't bring in 2025 01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:59,519 Speaker 1: Levan Bell, he didn't bring CJ. Molesey at those dollars, 2026 01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:01,280 Speaker 1: at those prices, I mean that's a lot of money 2027 01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:02,600 Speaker 1: for a running back, a lot of money for an 2028 01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:06,080 Speaker 1: inside linebacker. Who knows if the people in charge really 2029 01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:09,160 Speaker 1: even wanted those current centerpieces for the team, So that 2030 01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,840 Speaker 1: could be a little weird. Questions in the AFC East, 2031 01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:13,360 Speaker 1: what do you see? Send it a tweet, give us 2032 01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,080 Speaker 1: a call eight oh three five fifty toll free one 2033 01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:19,400 Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Also from 2034 01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:21,960 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet from Timmy. He asked a good question. 2035 01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:23,800 Speaker 1: He goes my question, will let me on Bell be 2036 01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:27,479 Speaker 1: rusty this season and Kenny match his performance without having 2037 01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:30,800 Speaker 1: the Steeler's offensive line? Two good questions. I would think 2038 01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,320 Speaker 1: less about the Rust factor. I think he's a good player, 2039 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:37,160 Speaker 1: you love him obviously, but that's not the Steeler's offensive 2040 01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:38,559 Speaker 1: line in front of him. With the Jets, he could 2041 01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:41,120 Speaker 1: make a big difference for him. Yeah, that's a great point. 2042 01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:44,040 Speaker 1: And it looks like he's in great shape. I mean 2043 01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:46,599 Speaker 1: Greg Cassell is even there himself. He said he's moving 2044 01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:48,479 Speaker 1: really well. That I don't think rust is going to 2045 01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,400 Speaker 1: be that much of a factor. You know, maybe if 2046 01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:52,120 Speaker 1: a year off he will even help in that regard. 2047 01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:55,720 Speaker 1: He didn't get hit three four hundred times. But that's 2048 01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:58,960 Speaker 1: Steeler's offensive line. I mean you could put anybody back there, 2049 01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:01,840 Speaker 1: from Bell to James Connor to Jalen Samuel. I mean 2050 01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:04,640 Speaker 1: you saw them or really create holes for whoever was 2051 01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,479 Speaker 1: running the ball. I think part of them maybe we're 2052 01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:09,400 Speaker 1: a little ticked off at Levion Bell at times for 2053 01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:12,640 Speaker 1: his running style, that patient running style. I've talked to 2054 01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,439 Speaker 1: a few of them. They said, Hey, sometimes it's like, go, like, 2055 01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:17,040 Speaker 1: there's a hole there, hit it. What are you waiting 2056 01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:19,439 Speaker 1: for it? Right? Exactly? They're they're that good. They can 2057 01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:22,719 Speaker 1: hold their blocks that long. That's something that we should 2058 01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:26,000 Speaker 1: probably be talking about a lot more. It's I'm not 2059 01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,880 Speaker 1: really that familiar with how good the Jets offensive line 2060 01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:30,280 Speaker 1: is going to be this year, but I can tell 2061 01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:32,559 Speaker 1: you it's not going to be close to Pittsburgh's. Can't 2062 01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:35,040 Speaker 1: let me read you the depth chart projected depth chart. 2063 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,919 Speaker 1: Not a whole lot there for the Jets. Calvin Peachamant 2064 01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:42,360 Speaker 1: left tackle, collecchi Assemily former Raider at left guard, Jonathan 2065 01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:45,120 Speaker 1: Harrison at center, Brian Winters at right guard, Brandon Shellett 2066 01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:49,000 Speaker 1: right tackle, there's nobody there who's gonna get much attention 2067 01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:51,720 Speaker 1: that one't think, right, nobody there, I mean right, I 2068 01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:53,400 Speaker 1: don't know if there's anybody good there to be honest 2069 01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:55,920 Speaker 1: with you. Well, with Bell, I think where he's dangerous, 2070 01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to get creative with him and move 2071 01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:01,479 Speaker 1: him all over the place. I think Cosel's righting like, 2072 01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:05,920 Speaker 1: this isn't gonna be a twenty Kerry season for Bell. 2073 01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:07,880 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to kind of use them in different ways. 2074 01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:10,000 Speaker 1: And that's probably one reason why they their line isn't 2075 01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,120 Speaker 1: going to be close to Pittsburgh's. Around the AFC East, 2076 01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:14,760 Speaker 1: the biggest question marks outside of the bills tweet from 2077 01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,679 Speaker 1: miss A from b K, who goes around the division. 2078 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,080 Speaker 1: She says, there are question marks across the board. Will 2079 01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:24,400 Speaker 1: the turnover on the roster hurt in New England? Will 2080 01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:27,080 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's age catch up to him? Who takes the 2081 01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:29,920 Speaker 1: reins in Miami? Fitz Magic or Josh Rosen? Who will 2082 01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:33,280 Speaker 1: reign in the chaos at MetLife? Well, the back pages 2083 01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:35,599 Speaker 1: of the New York Posts to be filled with Gaye 2084 01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:40,439 Speaker 1: looking at Tacos. I don't understand that great meme. Well 2085 01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:42,400 Speaker 1: that was I think somebody created a meme of that 2086 01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:45,960 Speaker 1: press conference and kind of moved the tacos. Oh yeah, 2087 01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:49,040 Speaker 1: plays to a line with the guy movements. He just 2088 01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:51,880 Speaker 1: got a layoff of the eyes. You know what you said, Yeah, 2089 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:55,680 Speaker 1: let's cut them. Is there chaos at MetLife? We don't know. 2090 01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:57,680 Speaker 1: I think that might be overstating it a little bit. 2091 01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:01,040 Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, that's I wouldn't alid chaos yet. 2092 01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:03,880 Speaker 1: Let's let it play out. It's just really strange to 2093 01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,200 Speaker 1: just see everything change that late in the game. So 2094 01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:09,120 Speaker 1: one more tweet from the tweet sheet about the AFC 2095 01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:12,400 Speaker 1: East from Duck. I think the one weakness that has 2096 01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:16,479 Speaker 1: consistently impacted Tom Brady's performance is strong pressure up the middle. 2097 01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:20,559 Speaker 1: If the Bills can generate consistent pressure and collapse the pocket, 2098 01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:24,400 Speaker 1: they should should find success. Okay, sure that would be 2099 01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:27,200 Speaker 1: a goal. And I do think their first round draft again, 2100 01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:29,960 Speaker 1: Oliver has something to say about that, don't you. Yeah, 2101 01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:31,920 Speaker 1: that's where you have to get the pressure on Tom 2102 01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:35,240 Speaker 1: Brady because if you're relying on pressure from the edge, 2103 01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the ball is going to be out. It 2104 01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,120 Speaker 1: needs to be in his face. I mean we've seen it, 2105 01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, the times he has lost in the Super Bowl, 2106 01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:43,240 Speaker 1: or Philadelphia is getting pressure up the middle. The Giants 2107 01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:46,880 Speaker 1: are getting pressure up the middle. Yeah, that really is 2108 01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:49,960 Speaker 1: the only answer. And you've got to cover because the 2109 01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:52,040 Speaker 1: ball is going to be out in you know, one 2110 01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:55,599 Speaker 1: point eight seconds. Yeah, it's coming out. Hey, we're talking 2111 01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:57,200 Speaker 1: about the AFC East. But I want to take you, 2112 01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:59,840 Speaker 1: if I can tiether to a discussion that you and 2113 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,080 Speaker 1: your teammates at bleacher Report had. Uh it is published. 2114 01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:06,160 Speaker 1: It went up on bleacher Report just the other day. 2115 01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,839 Speaker 1: I guess right, Um it's uh Bleacher Report NFL expert 2116 01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,320 Speaker 1: picks for division winners this year. Um. A lot can 2117 01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:14,400 Speaker 1: happen between now when the dual a regular season. But 2118 01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,280 Speaker 1: NFL writers of Bleacher Report gathered to make some pre 2119 01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:21,080 Speaker 1: camp predictions for the league's eight division winners. You were 2120 01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:24,639 Speaker 1: one of them, along with um, Mike Freeman, NFL national 2121 01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:28,800 Speaker 1: lead writer, NFL analyst Brad Genyon, uh Left Go Show 2122 01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:31,519 Speaker 1: host Adam left Goo, NFL Draft lead writer, Matt Miller, 2123 01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:35,479 Speaker 1: NFL analyst Brett Sobieski, NFL national lead writer, Mike Tannier, 2124 01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:39,040 Speaker 1: NFL analyst Gary Davenport, and you, Tyler Dunn. You've got some, 2125 01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:40,519 Speaker 1: You've got some. You got a bench there, man, you 2126 01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:43,840 Speaker 1: got some players division winners. Let's start with the division 2127 01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:47,280 Speaker 1: we've been talking about, the AFC East. Your group, I guess, 2128 01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:50,880 Speaker 1: expectedly picked the Patriots. Um, let me just quote it 2129 01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:53,000 Speaker 1: and then let to get you talking about you didn't 2130 01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,320 Speaker 1: write this right? Uh no, no, yeah, it was just 2131 01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:59,519 Speaker 1: more right. We all picked like our own division winners 2132 01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,439 Speaker 1: at ye. But the group Bleacherberg Group says to say 2133 01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:05,160 Speaker 1: the Patriots owned the division is a massive understatement and 2134 01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:08,000 Speaker 1: that's not going to change. In twenty nineteen, the Bills 2135 01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:12,639 Speaker 1: and Jets are rebuilding teams with second year quarterback Bred 2136 01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,519 Speaker 1: Genyon wrote this, with the Bills and Jets greatly improved 2137 01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,479 Speaker 1: on paper and with Rob Gronkowski no longer a factor, 2138 01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:22,000 Speaker 1: the gap between the Patriots and those teams is a 2139 01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:25,960 Speaker 1: lot smaller. But analyst Gary Davenport writes this, you can 2140 01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,400 Speaker 1: build a team with the fifty three best players from 2141 01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:31,000 Speaker 1: the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins and it would lose eight 2142 01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:33,960 Speaker 1: of ten to the Patriots. I I don't know. You 2143 01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:37,400 Speaker 1: put together an all star team, he writes, from the Bills, Jets, 2144 01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:40,639 Speaker 1: and Dolphins, and that team would lose eight of ten 2145 01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:44,320 Speaker 1: to the Patriots. Go two and eight against Patriots. No, No, 2146 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,240 Speaker 1: you don't agree with that. No, No, An all Star 2147 01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,160 Speaker 1: team made up of the best Bills, best Jets, and 2148 01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,040 Speaker 1: best Patriots, Yeah, would go two and eight against the Patriots. 2149 01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:55,360 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's still coaching, Tom Brady still the quarterback. Here's 2150 01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:58,280 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. You know what's gonna happen. At best, 2151 01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:02,320 Speaker 1: they'll probably start what four and four, They'll they'll fiddle 2152 01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:05,639 Speaker 1: around through September October like they always do. But kind 2153 01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:07,759 Speaker 1: of like Golden State the last few years in basketball, 2154 01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:10,439 Speaker 1: they just the regular season's almost like the preseason. They're 2155 01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:12,320 Speaker 1: just kind of like figuring everything out, and when December 2156 01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,960 Speaker 1: rolls around, they know who they are and they steamroll. 2157 01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're collapsing, but it's not basketball. And 2158 01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:20,200 Speaker 1: the Patriots are good, but I do think they are 2159 01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,280 Speaker 1: in decline. And an all Star team from the Bills, Jets, 2160 01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:27,760 Speaker 1: and Dolphins would take at least five of ten. Come on, no, 2161 01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:30,120 Speaker 1: you know what, I might go ten of ten Patriots 2162 01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:34,400 Speaker 1: on that matchup, ten of ten Patriots against an all 2163 01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:39,040 Speaker 1: Star team, and it's totally theoretical. You never happened. All right, 2164 01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:42,880 Speaker 1: Let's get to the let's get to the AFC North 2165 01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:45,559 Speaker 1: for a second here, Um, you and your compatriots at 2166 01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:49,600 Speaker 1: Bleacher Report, Um, make it unanimous? I guess right? Is 2167 01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:51,760 Speaker 1: it unanimous for the Cleveland Browns? I think there might 2168 01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,960 Speaker 1: have been one one for the Steelers. Yes, Mike Freeman 2169 01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:58,439 Speaker 1: went with the Steelers. Okay, tell me why? Yeah? One 2170 01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:02,439 Speaker 1: vote s Pittsburgh Steelers. You know, I get it. Seven 2171 01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:06,960 Speaker 1: votes for the Browns, one for the Steelers. Come on, hey, 2172 01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:10,920 Speaker 1: I get the concern in Cleveland with with all the personalities, 2173 01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:13,439 Speaker 1: all the egos. You know, you put all these people 2174 01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:17,000 Speaker 1: in one room and it's gonna spontaneously combust. But but 2175 01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,360 Speaker 1: you know what, it hasn't combusted yet. Let's let's let 2176 01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:22,240 Speaker 1: this thing play out. You've you've got Baker Mayfield, who 2177 01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:26,439 Speaker 1: you know, absolutely proved himself worthy of the first overall 2178 01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:29,280 Speaker 1: pick last year, and now you just surrounded him with 2179 01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:33,920 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. With Jarvis Landry, with Antonio Callaway, Nick Chubb. 2180 01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:36,720 Speaker 1: I mean they've gotten David and Joe Who and I 2181 01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:38,880 Speaker 1: think Freddie Kitchens, you know, was was doing a lot 2182 01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:41,160 Speaker 1: of different things last year's we talked about the other day. 2183 01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:43,920 Speaker 1: So the talent's there, and it's there on defense too. 2184 01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,720 Speaker 1: And hey, I get it. The Steelers think they can 2185 01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:49,400 Speaker 1: just plug in James Connor and Juju Smith Schuster and 2186 01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:52,559 Speaker 1: keep that rolling. And maybe they're right, but but right now, 2187 01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:56,639 Speaker 1: there's just more talent in Cleveland. Then Pittsburgh gets crazy 2188 01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:59,160 Speaker 1: to say that they're a contender, that they're the front runner, 2189 01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:03,439 Speaker 1: but I think that they are. You don't think so, No, No, 2190 01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:07,000 Speaker 1: I think Baltimore has something to say. I think Pittsburgh 2191 01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:09,720 Speaker 1: will have something to say. And all Saba's defense was 2192 01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:11,760 Speaker 1: gutted pretty good. The size for seven of eight of 2193 01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:13,960 Speaker 1: you to pick the Browns, Yeah, come on, that's just 2194 01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:17,400 Speaker 1: flavor of the month club. Now, all right, well we'll 2195 01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:20,000 Speaker 1: see AFC South. This surprises me too. I think the 2196 01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:22,639 Speaker 1: AFC South has a potential to be among the more 2197 01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:25,639 Speaker 1: competitive divisions. And yet you and your Bleacher Report colleague, 2198 01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:28,200 Speaker 1: seven of eight of you in the AFC South picked 2199 01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:32,479 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. Houston is a playoff contender, aren't they. 2200 01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:36,639 Speaker 1: Jacksonville is a recent deep playoff contender. Don't they deserve 2201 01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:40,360 Speaker 1: some consideration? Yeah, you know, it's probably a little closer 2202 01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:44,519 Speaker 1: for me than others. But I like the Titans a lot. Actually, 2203 01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:48,479 Speaker 1: I mean, their offensive line is really strong defensively. Nobody 2204 01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:50,360 Speaker 1: talks about that defense, but they might have the best 2205 01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:54,720 Speaker 1: secondary in football with Kevin Bayer and Malcolm Butler, you know, 2206 01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:59,120 Speaker 1: two true playmakers back there, Logan Ryan. But Marcus Mariota, 2207 01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:01,559 Speaker 1: I mean, is he really going to turn a corner 2208 01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:03,559 Speaker 1: or is he kind of what he is at this 2209 01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:05,439 Speaker 1: point of his career. I know he had a ton 2210 01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:08,320 Speaker 1: of injuries, all the nerve damage, but that's kind of 2211 01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:11,080 Speaker 1: what held me back on the Titans. I mean the Jaguars. 2212 01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:15,000 Speaker 1: You know, I know you're not that big of a 2213 01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:18,040 Speaker 1: fan of the head coach there and that come across 2214 01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:22,600 Speaker 1: yesterday maybe maybe and uh yeah, I like Houston, but 2215 01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:24,719 Speaker 1: their offensive line is a mess. I mean, Deshaun Watson 2216 01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:27,200 Speaker 1: was running for his life last year. Nobody even knows 2217 01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,200 Speaker 1: who's in charge in Houston. Maybe it doesn't matter, but 2218 01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, they need to figure out, you know, their 2219 01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:34,960 Speaker 1: front office. I just think that Andrew Luck another year 2220 01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:37,800 Speaker 1: removed from everything he went through, and Darius Leonard might 2221 01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:40,559 Speaker 1: be the best, one of the best linebackers in football already. 2222 01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:45,559 Speaker 1: They've got the two pillars. Just I know the Cults 2223 01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,000 Speaker 1: are on an upward trajectory. I like the Colts I 2224 01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:50,320 Speaker 1: love Frank Reich. I just don't know if they're dominant. 2225 01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:52,080 Speaker 1: Seven to one, seven of the eight of you think 2226 01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:54,120 Speaker 1: they're division winners. I just don't know if it's a 2227 01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:58,040 Speaker 1: slam dunk. What don't you like about the Colts inexperience? Mostly, 2228 01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:01,280 Speaker 1: you know those guys offensive line last year going into 2229 01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:04,160 Speaker 1: a second year. Even Darius Leonard, you know, is not 2230 01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:07,800 Speaker 1: a ton of experience. They have some weapons. I don't 2231 01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:11,200 Speaker 1: think they're overloaded with offensive weapons. And although I like 2232 01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:14,000 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck and like his approach to the game, he 2233 01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:17,840 Speaker 1: can have downsides too. You know, he can have slumps. 2234 01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:21,240 Speaker 1: He's had him. We'll see. I don't know that they're dominant. 2235 01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:22,639 Speaker 1: I think they I would pick him as the best 2236 01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:25,120 Speaker 1: team in the division, a likely division winner, but I 2237 01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:27,920 Speaker 1: don't think they're a dominant division winner. There may I 2238 01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:31,040 Speaker 1: turn your attention now to the AFC West again, pretty 2239 01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:34,599 Speaker 1: competitive division. The folks that Bleacher report went with the Chargers. 2240 01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:37,559 Speaker 1: Six of you chiefs got two Chiefs, won twelve games 2241 01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:40,240 Speaker 1: last year, went deep into the playoffs. I almost made 2242 01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:42,760 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, and yet only two of you and 2243 01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:45,840 Speaker 1: your seven colleagues think they have what it takes to 2244 01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:48,280 Speaker 1: repeat as division champs. Yeah, I mean I was one 2245 01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:51,280 Speaker 1: of those two. I just think that you upgrade, you know, 2246 01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:54,920 Speaker 1: at pass rush with you know, d Ford leaving, Frank 2247 01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:57,559 Speaker 1: Clark coming in, you upgrade at safety bringing in Tyron Matthew. 2248 01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:01,320 Speaker 1: That was just a collapse against New England then FC 2249 01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:04,000 Speaker 1: Championship game. I mean defensively, we all remember what d 2250 01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:06,639 Speaker 1: Ford did lighting up off sides. But you know, again 2251 01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:08,400 Speaker 1: and again and again. I mean how many players had 2252 01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:10,080 Speaker 1: to go right for the Patriots to win that game 2253 01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:12,200 Speaker 1: down the stretch, the Chiefs make one of those, They're 2254 01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:14,559 Speaker 1: in the super Bowl probably, so I just think their 2255 01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:17,360 Speaker 1: defense is going to be a little better. And Patrick Mahomes, 2256 01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:20,120 Speaker 1: I mean another that was basically a rookie season for 2257 01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:23,200 Speaker 1: him last year. You know he's gonna learn yet, Defenses 2258 01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:25,000 Speaker 1: are gonna adapt to what he does. But he's doing 2259 01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:27,960 Speaker 1: things that nobody's ever really done at the position. So 2260 01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:30,200 Speaker 1: he's only going to get better. Okay, we'll see. I 2261 01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:33,439 Speaker 1: think the Chargers are talented, maybe more talented, and I 2262 01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:35,280 Speaker 1: think they will win that division, but I do think 2263 01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:37,400 Speaker 1: it'll be close, right, It will be pretty close out there, 2264 01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:39,639 Speaker 1: you know. Side note, Sammy Watkins, we caught up before 2265 01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:42,960 Speaker 1: that AFC Championship Game, and he says that Patrick Mahomes 2266 01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:46,559 Speaker 1: in practice throws behind the back, passes and passes underneath 2267 01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:49,080 Speaker 1: his legs. So maybe it doesn't end with the newli pass. 2268 01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:51,679 Speaker 1: Maybe everybody will see something. Uh, you know that we've 2269 01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:55,439 Speaker 1: really never seen the bleacher Report picked the division winners. 2270 01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:58,920 Speaker 1: We've gone through the AFC with Tyler Dunna, Bleacher Report, 2271 01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:01,800 Speaker 1: NF East. I think most people expect this to be 2272 01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,600 Speaker 1: fairly competitive. And your group picked the five of you 2273 01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:07,840 Speaker 1: picked the Eagles, three picked the Cowboys. Which way were 2274 01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,640 Speaker 1: you on the you know, went with Dallas as we 2275 01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:12,400 Speaker 1: talked about a lot of pressure on them with all 2276 01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:15,280 Speaker 1: the contracts that are up in Jason Garrett's contract situation. 2277 01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:18,720 Speaker 1: But man, that's a lot of talent right now. This 2278 01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:21,719 Speaker 1: is a window right now for them to win with 2279 01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:24,640 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Ziegel, Elliott marketup where they kind of know 2280 01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:26,280 Speaker 1: what they are on offense, They're not just gonna like 2281 01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:29,280 Speaker 1: try to spread you out and scheme you. They're gonna 2282 01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:32,240 Speaker 1: pound Zeke Elliott, They're gonna work out play action and 2283 01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:35,679 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith Laton Vanderesha linebacker are one of the best duos. 2284 01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:37,800 Speaker 1: So I you know that they might fall off a 2285 01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:39,559 Speaker 1: cliff in a year or two, you know, unable to 2286 01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:42,760 Speaker 1: pay all these guys. But right now, yeah, you see 2287 01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:45,839 Speaker 1: holes in the Eagles? You pick Dallas, your your partners 2288 01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:47,720 Speaker 1: picked the Eagles five to three. But do you see 2289 01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:49,840 Speaker 1: holes in the Eagles because I don't. I don't think 2290 01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:52,200 Speaker 1: they're a perfect king, but I think they're pretty solid overall, 2291 01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:55,360 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. They are. I mean, let's 2292 01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:58,120 Speaker 1: just see Carson Wentz stay healthy though he's got to 2293 01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:02,000 Speaker 1: stay on the field, and it's kind of dumb to, 2294 01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, knock a team for a potential injury. I'm 2295 01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:08,000 Speaker 1: not saying that, but look, he's had some things come up, 2296 01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,200 Speaker 1: and when he wasn't out there and Nick Foles was 2297 01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:13,240 Speaker 1: in there, something happened. You know, he had some kind 2298 01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:15,720 Speaker 1: of galvanizing effect in that locker room. I'm not going 2299 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,280 Speaker 1: to go to the extreme that we saw, you know, 2300 01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:20,000 Speaker 1: and I think it was the Philly Voys had that 2301 01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:23,519 Speaker 1: extensive story in the off season about leadership and guys 2302 01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:25,960 Speaker 1: not really thinking Carson Wentz is that great of a 2303 01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:28,439 Speaker 1: leader in the locker room. The players I've talked to 2304 01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:31,240 Speaker 1: don't say that, but hey, where there's smoke, there's a 2305 01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:33,240 Speaker 1: little bit of fire, and Carson Wentz felt the need 2306 01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:36,360 Speaker 1: to defend himself a little bit this offseason, so maybe 2307 01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:39,679 Speaker 1: there is some growth that has to happen there. But yeah, 2308 01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:40,920 Speaker 1: I mean a couple of years ago he was gonna 2309 01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,400 Speaker 1: be the MVP until he tore his ACL. So if 2310 01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:46,320 Speaker 1: he's healthy, they could win the Super Bowl. I just 2311 01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:48,120 Speaker 1: don't know if you can really bank on that with 2312 01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:51,559 Speaker 1: his playing style. Leacher Report the NFL writers picking division 2313 01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:54,080 Speaker 1: winners in the NFL as we approach a training camp, 2314 01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:56,320 Speaker 1: and Tyler Dunn of Leacher reporters with us. He was 2315 01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:59,040 Speaker 1: in on all these votes. We moved to the NFC North. 2316 01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:01,759 Speaker 1: This surprise me because I think I said to you yesterday, 2317 01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:03,960 Speaker 1: I consider the I think I said this, the window 2318 01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:07,000 Speaker 1: for the Packers is is either closed or getting close 2319 01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,400 Speaker 1: to being closed. And yet your group four of you 2320 01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:12,599 Speaker 1: picked the Packers, three picked the Bears, one picked the Vikings. 2321 01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:14,160 Speaker 1: Where did you come out on that? It was the 2322 01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:16,960 Speaker 1: one picking the Vikings against the outlier A year ago 2323 01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:19,720 Speaker 1: you would have been this time. People thought that's how 2324 01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:21,839 Speaker 1: they would be. I think we're just kind of forgetting 2325 01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:25,639 Speaker 1: about the Vikings. You know, they they schematically just weren't 2326 01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,200 Speaker 1: very smart offensively, I think you'd agree. They just kind 2327 01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:30,120 Speaker 1: of tried to throw it all over the place. And 2328 01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,280 Speaker 1: they had to, you know, the head coach, Zimmer had 2329 01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:35,040 Speaker 1: to step in and say, look, let's run the ball, 2330 01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:37,200 Speaker 1: let's get back to the basics a little bit. And 2331 01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:39,280 Speaker 1: if he's working off play action. You saw the big 2332 01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:41,760 Speaker 1: plays from Kirk Cousins in Washington. I think he can 2333 01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,200 Speaker 1: do that in Minnesota with what he has and dealing 2334 01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:49,040 Speaker 1: and Stefine Diggs and defensively, I mean, they have everything. Yeah, 2335 01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:50,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's gonna be the Vikings 2336 01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:52,240 Speaker 1: or the Bears. It's gonna be tight. But I'm with 2337 01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:54,680 Speaker 1: you on the Packers. I don't know how open that 2338 01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:57,160 Speaker 1: window really is right now. Yeah, and yet your group four, 2339 01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:58,960 Speaker 1: you picked the Packers, and I would say, if I 2340 01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:00,840 Speaker 1: were picking in that division, I picked the Bears. I 2341 01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:04,120 Speaker 1: really would. I think they are again complete both sides 2342 01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:07,080 Speaker 1: of the ball. A pretty good coach. And I'm not 2343 01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:09,160 Speaker 1: a Trubisky fan, but I can see how you could 2344 01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:10,519 Speaker 1: win with that guy. And they manage to do it 2345 01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:13,080 Speaker 1: last year, they'll probably do it again. It's really interesting too. 2346 01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:16,120 Speaker 1: That's like the trend, the wave it's it's these you know, 2347 01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:18,200 Speaker 1: I hate to use the word guru, mastermind, but it 2348 01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:21,040 Speaker 1: starts on the sideline with the coach designing and calling 2349 01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:22,920 Speaker 1: the plays and and who to throw the ball to. 2350 01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Trubisky is an extension of his head coach. 2351 01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:27,800 Speaker 1: Golf's an extension of his coach, garoppolo of his coach. 2352 01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if Rogers is ready to make that 2353 01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:32,600 Speaker 1: plunge in Green Bay. Um, they've got to find some 2354 01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:36,000 Speaker 1: kind of balance there. But that's kind of a subplot 2355 01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:38,639 Speaker 1: to the season in that division. Really, Bleacher Reports picked 2356 01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,559 Speaker 1: for the NFC South six. You go for the Saints, 2357 01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:45,800 Speaker 1: one for Carolina, one for Atlanta. Where did you come 2358 01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:49,360 Speaker 1: out on this, Tyler? The Saints, I mean, God, talk 2359 01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:52,240 Speaker 1: about bad luck those last two years. I mean bowl 2360 01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:55,960 Speaker 1: caliber the last two years. They're they're loaded. You know, 2361 01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:58,960 Speaker 1: Drew Drew Brees hasn't shown any sign of declining if 2362 01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:01,240 Speaker 1: he has, kind of Tom Brady New England that they're 2363 01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:03,679 Speaker 1: not afraid to run the ball. You know, Alvin Kamara 2364 01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:05,519 Speaker 1: will be playing a bigger role with with Ingram gone though. 2365 01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:07,680 Speaker 1: They'll be fine. And they gotta get better luck, right, 2366 01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:10,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned it. They gotta get better luck, he thinks. So, 2367 01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they're the football gods kind of owe them 2368 01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:16,439 Speaker 1: one after these last two years. And yeah, it's uh, 2369 01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:18,559 Speaker 1: you know, it would be funny. What if it came 2370 01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:21,240 Speaker 1: down to, uh, you know, a replay of a defensive 2371 01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:23,519 Speaker 1: pass interference for this team. It might, it might. We'll 2372 01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:27,080 Speaker 1: talk about that Nick segment. And finally, NFC West, four 2373 01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:29,360 Speaker 1: of you vote for the Rams, three of you vote 2374 01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:31,280 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks, one vote for the Niners. Were you 2375 01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:34,440 Speaker 1: the Niners vote there? I wasn't. No. I you've seen 2376 01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:37,360 Speaker 1: the Niners close up. I like the Niners. You know, 2377 01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:39,400 Speaker 1: they could they could win the division, they could contend 2378 01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:41,280 Speaker 1: for Super Bowl, could go the other direction like we 2379 01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:45,240 Speaker 1: talked about. But I feel like Russell Wilson, we don't 2380 01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:48,839 Speaker 1: talk enough about what he's really done the last two seasons. 2381 01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:50,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they barely threw the ball at all last year, 2382 01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:53,640 Speaker 1: and he went for thirty five touchdown seven picks, thirty 2383 01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:55,400 Speaker 1: four touchdowns the year before that, one of the most 2384 01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:58,240 Speaker 1: efficient quarterbacks in the game. I don't know if they're 2385 01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:03,640 Speaker 1: kind of archaic style offensively is gonna win in January 2386 01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:06,600 Speaker 1: and February. I mean, with Brian Schottenheimer, they they still 2387 01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:08,200 Speaker 1: want to pound the ball. They want to run it 2388 01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:10,760 Speaker 1: with Carson, with Rashard Penny now in his second year, 2389 01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:15,040 Speaker 1: and even Wilson himself. But yeah, you look at his numbers. 2390 01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:16,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just as good as any quarterback in 2391 01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:19,560 Speaker 1: the league. These last few years, we just don't talk 2392 01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:21,920 Speaker 1: about him. I mean, it's amazing how they've transitioned, you know, 2393 01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,240 Speaker 1: from the legion of boom. They've they've been picking La 2394 01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:27,240 Speaker 1: Laton rounds. Yet they've somehow found a way to stay 2395 01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:29,720 Speaker 1: competitive after losing all those guys, And a lot of 2396 01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:32,160 Speaker 1: it is Russell Wilson right in the evolution of his game. 2397 01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:35,400 Speaker 1: He's a legitimate passer now, I think. But to the 2398 01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:38,680 Speaker 1: defending championshire the Rams, um, what do you see too 2399 01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:41,280 Speaker 1: many questions? Gurly? Questions for the Rams is that what 2400 01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:44,840 Speaker 1: prevents them from being your picks? Repeat champs? Man, you 2401 01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:47,200 Speaker 1: you're probably onto something there. I know that everything you 2402 01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:50,000 Speaker 1: hear out of La, from Sean mcvayh to Gurly himself 2403 01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:52,920 Speaker 1: is positive that they're confident that he's going to be fine. 2404 01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:56,160 Speaker 1: But really strange, I mean, how does somebody in the 2405 01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:59,240 Speaker 1: running for league MVP all of the entire season. He's 2406 01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:03,120 Speaker 1: the centerpiece of your offense become a complete non factor 2407 01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:05,520 Speaker 1: by the end of the season, whether it's the knee, 2408 01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:08,800 Speaker 1: whether it's something in his head. I mean, in that 2409 01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:11,040 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game after a couple of drops, I mean, 2410 01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:14,000 Speaker 1: he was just benched and McVeigh kind of put it 2411 01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:16,680 Speaker 1: on himself. Kind of a weird situation out there. I 2412 01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:18,960 Speaker 1: don't think we have all of the details, all of 2413 01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:21,560 Speaker 1: the facts, but um, you know not that that unknown 2414 01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:24,000 Speaker 1: there kind of gives me pause. All right. It's a 2415 01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:27,200 Speaker 1: really good piece in bleacher Report. Bleacher Report NFL expert 2416 01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:29,720 Speaker 1: picks for the division winners. A great way to get 2417 01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:32,680 Speaker 1: yourself situated for training camp, Tyler Dunn, one of eight 2418 01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:36,320 Speaker 1: Bleacher Report experts NFL experts who was involved in those selections. 2419 01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,920 Speaker 1: It's good stuff. I don't agree with it, hey, so 2420 01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:40,880 Speaker 1: it makes its fun, right, I appreciate it's good stuff. 2421 01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:43,640 Speaker 1: Coming back with more including NFL True or False Come 2422 01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:46,040 Speaker 1: on Back one goes slide presented by Klaida Health. We're 2423 01:56:46,080 --> 01:57:00,240 Speaker 1: company from One Bill's Drive, says Buffalo Bill's Radio Quick 2424 01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:03,920 Speaker 1: one Bill Side John Murphy with Tyler down from bleacher Report. 2425 01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:06,840 Speaker 1: He's in for Steve Tasker. Seat returns on Monday. We 2426 01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:08,800 Speaker 1: get set for training camp. A week from today, we'll 2427 01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:11,200 Speaker 1: be doing show number two. We only do eight at 2428 01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:14,360 Speaker 1: training camp. Show number two coming up a week from today. 2429 01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:16,520 Speaker 1: The first show next Thursday for us at training camp. 2430 01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:19,440 Speaker 1: Do you think, well, we had the numbers earlier this week, 2431 01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:22,360 Speaker 1: there's only ten teams going offsite for training camp. Now 2432 01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:26,720 Speaker 1: in the NFL, you think it's becoming a dinosaur. What 2433 01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:29,480 Speaker 1: do you think? Yeah, I mean, I think these coaches 2434 01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:33,480 Speaker 1: definitely want to see their players against other players on 2435 01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:36,200 Speaker 1: other teams to really gauge kind of where they're where 2436 01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:39,160 Speaker 1: they're at, and you can kind of create these controlled atmospheres, 2437 01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:42,360 Speaker 1: create drills to really study players. But I'll tell you 2438 01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:44,360 Speaker 1: the trend I don't like is like less and less 2439 01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:47,560 Speaker 1: and less open practices to fans. Yeah, you know, I 2440 01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:49,360 Speaker 1: mean it's not like the Bills are alone. The Bills 2441 01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:51,600 Speaker 1: are you know, probably on the better end of opening 2442 01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:53,920 Speaker 1: up practices to fans, but the Eagles have like one 2443 01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,880 Speaker 1: open practice to fans. I mean, we all remember being 2444 01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:00,280 Speaker 1: kids and our dad's taking us to training camp. Remember 2445 01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:02,040 Speaker 1: going for my birthday one year, you know, when I 2446 01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:04,400 Speaker 1: was like ten years old. So it's just such an 2447 01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:08,880 Speaker 1: opportunity for families to see their favorite teams at not 2448 01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:13,440 Speaker 1: the insane ticket prices currently going right now. It's just 2449 01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:15,240 Speaker 1: too bad. I hope the NFL kind of comes to 2450 01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:18,560 Speaker 1: their senses. Did you see Broncos coach Vic Fangio's statement 2451 01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:21,320 Speaker 1: or last this week? Boy, that that resonated. I'm trying 2452 01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:23,000 Speaker 1: to find it here. I wanted to read just a sectional. 2453 01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:25,880 Speaker 1: It was amazing. Yeah, he was right, He's right, And 2454 01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:28,600 Speaker 1: as you point out, it's a chance of training camp, 2455 01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:32,000 Speaker 1: a chance for um for people who can't afford game 2456 01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:34,000 Speaker 1: tickets to go to see their team play. It's it's 2457 01:58:34,360 --> 01:58:36,280 Speaker 1: up close and personal. We talk about it all the 2458 01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:39,560 Speaker 1: time at the Bill's camp at Fisher. You're getting you know, 2459 01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:42,800 Speaker 1: good access and good view of practice and post practice. 2460 01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:46,400 Speaker 1: You're getting access for autographs and you know, pictures and 2461 01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:48,520 Speaker 1: meet and greet. I mean, it goes on out there 2462 01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:50,400 Speaker 1: every day at Fisher. I think it's really valuable for 2463 01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:52,920 Speaker 1: those little memories last a lifetime, you know. I mean, 2464 01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:55,280 Speaker 1: I can remember Jonathan Lytton throw me his hat one 2465 01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:58,920 Speaker 1: time way back when that's the great, the great Jonathan Lynton. 2466 01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:03,760 Speaker 1: I can't find it statement. I'll find it, all right. 2467 01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:05,880 Speaker 1: We didn't. We've been pushing it off. The talk of 2468 01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:08,400 Speaker 1: about having a chance to talk to you about this. 2469 01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:11,280 Speaker 1: Steve and I talk about a lot. The league a 2470 01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:14,480 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago meetings I think it was middle 2471 01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:19,240 Speaker 1: of June, talked about adjusting the instant replay use on 2472 01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:22,280 Speaker 1: past interference, especially in the last two minutes, where there 2473 01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:25,360 Speaker 1: was concerned that if they call it by the letter, 2474 01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:27,280 Speaker 1: there might be, you know, a flag on every play 2475 01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:30,080 Speaker 1: down the last two minutes. They didn't change anything. They're 2476 01:59:30,160 --> 01:59:33,480 Speaker 1: letting it. They're letting it role and so instant replay 2477 01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:36,760 Speaker 1: can be used on a challenge basis on past interference 2478 01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:40,200 Speaker 1: or non pass interference calls, and then the final two 2479 01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:42,480 Speaker 1: minutes it goes to the replay official. I think it 2480 01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:44,480 Speaker 1: we're in for a disaster, Tyler, I really do. I 2481 01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:47,440 Speaker 1: think we're in for a situation where the league's gonna 2482 01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:50,240 Speaker 1: have to issue a statement after one week and probably 2483 01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:52,960 Speaker 1: change something after two weeks. I really think it's going 2484 01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:54,400 Speaker 1: to be that bad. I think it's going to be 2485 01:59:54,440 --> 01:59:57,120 Speaker 1: that uncertain as to what they want called and what 2486 01:59:57,160 --> 01:59:59,920 Speaker 1: they don't want called. I get it. The Nickel Robe 2487 02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Coleman play last year was egregious mistake by the officials 2488 02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:09,560 Speaker 1: deal with those officials don't don't make a seat change 2489 02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:11,640 Speaker 1: in how games are called. And that's what they've done. 2490 02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:14,080 Speaker 1: That's what they've done. And it bothers me how it 2491 02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:17,040 Speaker 1: was done at the earlier spring meetings by the NFL, 2492 02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:20,160 Speaker 1: where the coaches basically hijacked the rules committee and say 2493 02:00:20,240 --> 02:00:24,200 Speaker 1: we want this change and we're gonna we're gonna get it. Well, look, coaches, 2494 02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:27,400 Speaker 1: you are coaches. You know. The generals don't run the war, 2495 02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:30,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They have a rules committee, 2496 02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:34,280 Speaker 1: they have a competition committee that makes these changes after 2497 02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:38,320 Speaker 1: serious consideration. And it was all bypassed because Sean Payton, 2498 02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:42,400 Speaker 1: uh you know, and his ire up because of that 2499 02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:44,840 Speaker 1: non call. It was a terrible non call. Nobody disputes that. 2500 02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:46,960 Speaker 1: What do you think, Well, you know, if it's not 2501 02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:49,280 Speaker 1: this play that everybody's seen on their screen or now, 2502 02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:52,640 Speaker 1: if it's not this Nickel Robie Coleman play, it's something else. 2503 02:00:53,160 --> 02:00:56,160 Speaker 1: So it's not like this is just going to fix 2504 02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:59,560 Speaker 1: all the controversies we've ever seen on the defensive side 2505 02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:02,040 Speaker 1: of the ball. The end of games. It's when does 2506 02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:03,680 Speaker 1: it end? I mean, you can go you can go 2507 02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:06,160 Speaker 1: back years and years. I think even to the Legion 2508 02:01:06,200 --> 02:01:10,800 Speaker 1: of Boom. I really think that that newfound emphasis on 2509 02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:14,000 Speaker 1: cracking down on illegal content or legal contact off the 2510 02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:16,320 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage was a reaction to you know, we 2511 02:01:16,320 --> 02:01:18,040 Speaker 1: don't really like the Legion of Boom. You know, and 2512 02:01:18,240 --> 02:01:20,040 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman believes this too. I can tell you that 2513 02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:22,600 Speaker 1: the success they had isn't good for the product. They 2514 02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:25,400 Speaker 1: want points, they want offense, offense, offense. They want the 2515 02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:28,600 Speaker 1: quarterbacks to be the stars. So that happens, and we see, 2516 02:01:28,920 --> 02:01:31,120 Speaker 1: well at the sack of quarterback you almost have to 2517 02:01:31,160 --> 02:01:33,480 Speaker 1: just kind of lift him up under your arms and 2518 02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:36,080 Speaker 1: gently settle set him down on the turf. And you 2519 02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:38,200 Speaker 1: know that took the league by storm early last season. 2520 02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:40,280 Speaker 1: And now this, I just don't know where it ends. 2521 02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:42,520 Speaker 1: They're so progressive with this. If after that it's gonna 2522 02:01:42,520 --> 02:01:45,120 Speaker 1: be something else. There'll be something else that you know, 2523 02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:47,040 Speaker 1: people will complain about. I just think that it hurts 2524 02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:49,960 Speaker 1: the product, and it's going to hurt the game flow. 2525 02:01:50,040 --> 02:01:52,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely all coaches are going to use both of their 2526 02:01:52,840 --> 02:01:55,320 Speaker 1: challenges right, they'd be stupid not toy. And I'd love 2527 02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:57,360 Speaker 1: to talk to Sean about it. He might not come clean, 2528 02:01:57,360 --> 02:02:00,240 Speaker 1: but I'm sure they have a strategic way to use 2529 02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:02,240 Speaker 1: these challenges now. And by the way, you got to 2530 02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:04,920 Speaker 1: save a challenge. You got to save a challenge. You 2531 02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:06,600 Speaker 1: might have to save a challenge in a game for 2532 02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:11,880 Speaker 1: this very thing, right, It's true, it's a strategic consideration. Look, 2533 02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:15,080 Speaker 1: I believe instant replay doesn't work, and you may agree 2534 02:02:15,160 --> 02:02:17,760 Speaker 1: or disagree. Steve thinks I'm crazy. I think it creates 2535 02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:20,240 Speaker 1: as many problems as it solves. I don't care about 2536 02:02:20,320 --> 02:02:23,480 Speaker 1: length of game. That's not my issue with instant replay. 2537 02:02:23,680 --> 02:02:26,760 Speaker 1: It's the fact that it does not solve problems. It 2538 02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:29,600 Speaker 1: creates as many as it solves. And we go deep 2539 02:02:29,640 --> 02:02:32,520 Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole trying to find perfect games, perfectly 2540 02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:36,160 Speaker 1: officiated game. There's no such thing. Replay has human elements 2541 02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:38,520 Speaker 1: involved in it too. I just as soon do away 2542 02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:42,280 Speaker 1: with replay as far as an officiating tool one, And 2543 02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:44,880 Speaker 1: I see more and more slowly people coming around to 2544 02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:49,080 Speaker 1: that belief. You can't fix everything human element in officiating. 2545 02:02:49,160 --> 02:02:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm good with that. I'm okay with that, and the 2546 02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:54,320 Speaker 1: guys who are bad will should be gone. They should 2547 02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:57,520 Speaker 1: be full time officials whose livelihoods depend on these calls 2548 02:02:57,520 --> 02:03:00,280 Speaker 1: they make. And I'm being accurate and seeing what they're 2549 02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:03,480 Speaker 1: knowing what they're seeing, and uh, if not, you know, 2550 02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:05,840 Speaker 1: get rid of them. But I think it should be 2551 02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:10,280 Speaker 1: take replay right out of it doesn't help y. I 2552 02:03:10,360 --> 02:03:12,200 Speaker 1: tend to agree with you at this point. You know 2553 02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:14,640 Speaker 1: there's gonna be human error one way or another in 2554 02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:17,440 Speaker 1: this game, so you know, I will say this. So 2555 02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:19,680 Speaker 1: I think when when instant replay came back, it was 2556 02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:23,400 Speaker 1: in reaction to what that Vinnie Testaverdi play at the 2557 02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:27,680 Speaker 1: goal line for the Jets, what eight and then Jerry 2558 02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:30,760 Speaker 1: Rice fumbling, you know, against the Packers in the wild card, 2559 02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:33,040 Speaker 1: just a clear fumble that would end of the game 2560 02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:36,080 Speaker 1: and you don't have the Steve young terall Owens heroic. So, 2561 02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there were some egregious calls there, but you 2562 02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:41,560 Speaker 1: know what, there's there's always going to be something egregious 2563 02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:43,680 Speaker 1: that we're all going to be talking about, all gonna 2564 02:03:43,720 --> 02:03:47,880 Speaker 1: be complaining about every season. So I tend to agree 2565 02:03:47,960 --> 02:03:50,640 Speaker 1: like there's that we just accept human error and get 2566 02:03:50,720 --> 02:03:54,040 Speaker 1: rid of replay entirely, because it's not like everything just 2567 02:03:54,680 --> 02:03:57,360 Speaker 1: was fixed with it. Nothing has been fixed. It's gonna 2568 02:03:57,360 --> 02:04:00,480 Speaker 1: be a one year deal. Instant replay on passing appearance 2569 02:04:00,840 --> 02:04:03,320 Speaker 1: and then they'll review it, dissecting it to a science. 2570 02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:06,640 Speaker 1: Something that happens that fast, it's insanes terrible. Hey, let's 2571 02:04:06,680 --> 02:04:08,800 Speaker 1: get to NFL tour or false. It is brought to 2572 02:04:08,840 --> 02:04:11,640 Speaker 1: you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artist and Cheese. A 2573 02:04:11,640 --> 02:04:14,080 Speaker 1: couple of issues here as we approach training camp, teams 2574 02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:16,840 Speaker 1: going to camp. How about this the Cowboys big name 2575 02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:21,320 Speaker 1: stars Deak Prescott, am Arii Cooper, Ezekiel Elliott. They're talking 2576 02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:24,720 Speaker 1: about new deals, but no deals yet. In USA Today writes, 2577 02:04:24,920 --> 02:04:27,240 Speaker 1: they're beginning to be suspicious that they will get those 2578 02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:30,360 Speaker 1: deals before the start of the regular season. Tour or false, 2579 02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:34,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys won't sign extensions for Prescott, Elliott and Cooper 2580 02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:37,880 Speaker 1: at all. Well, that's false. They'll keep some of those guys, 2581 02:04:37,920 --> 02:04:39,080 Speaker 1: but I don't think. I don't know if they'll get 2582 02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:41,400 Speaker 1: it done before the start of the regular season. That's false. 2583 02:04:41,480 --> 02:04:43,440 Speaker 1: They want to keep some of those guys. Deak Prescott 2584 02:04:43,440 --> 02:04:45,600 Speaker 1: I think is the key man. Not that they have 2585 02:04:45,640 --> 02:04:47,680 Speaker 1: to keep them, but that's a big decision they'll have 2586 02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:50,200 Speaker 1: to make. Definitely false. You know, when it comes to 2587 02:04:50,280 --> 02:04:53,760 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones and money, he's gonna spend on something. It's 2588 02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:56,600 Speaker 1: not always wise, but you know, these are good problems 2589 02:04:56,640 --> 02:04:59,400 Speaker 1: to have for Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones and the Cowboys 2590 02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:02,720 Speaker 1: that they're gonna get something done. And I would think 2591 02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:05,760 Speaker 1: they would start with the quarterback even though he's been 2592 02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:08,320 Speaker 1: under fire from time to time these last few years. 2593 02:05:09,120 --> 02:05:10,880 Speaker 1: You got you got to figure that position out or 2594 02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:13,520 Speaker 1: you're just lost in the weeds. So we both go 2595 02:05:13,600 --> 02:05:17,840 Speaker 1: false on that part two. This one, I immediately want 2596 02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:19,440 Speaker 1: to jump on it as false, but I don't know. 2597 02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:22,120 Speaker 1: This comes from a Bleacher Report article. Don't know who 2598 02:05:22,120 --> 02:05:26,000 Speaker 1: wrote a tyler, but the contention is Travis Kelcey Chiefs 2599 02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:29,680 Speaker 1: tight end is the most dominant tight end in the NFL. 2600 02:05:30,680 --> 02:05:34,440 Speaker 1: Four time, two time first team All Pro, four times 2601 02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:38,000 Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl. He's had great years a thousand 2602 02:05:38,120 --> 02:05:42,920 Speaker 1: yard mark or more, and every season since two fifteen. 2603 02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:47,360 Speaker 1: He's a key member of the Chiefs offense. Clearly. But 2604 02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:49,360 Speaker 1: to see the most dominant tight end of the NFL, 2605 02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:53,240 Speaker 1: maybe I guess I would suggest there are You know, 2606 02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:57,040 Speaker 1: now that Gronkowski's gone, no one is dominant at that position, right, 2607 02:05:57,080 --> 02:05:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that George Kittle is coming on, 2608 02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:02,080 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna stay false. I don't know if anybody 2609 02:06:02,160 --> 02:06:05,480 Speaker 1: is a dominant tight end, especially with Gronkowski going false. Yeah, 2610 02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:07,240 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I'm gonna go false. I mean, 2611 02:06:07,400 --> 02:06:09,680 Speaker 1: when you look at the Chiefs offense, they've got just 2612 02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:12,560 Speaker 1: so many weapons all over the place, from Kelsey to 2613 02:06:12,680 --> 02:06:15,640 Speaker 1: tire Hill of course, and they added Nicole Hardman, who 2614 02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:18,120 Speaker 1: you know is going to be a household named very 2615 02:06:18,200 --> 02:06:20,280 Speaker 1: very soon. He may be one of, if not the 2616 02:06:20,360 --> 02:06:24,360 Speaker 1: fastest player immediately in the NFL. I'll go George Girtle. 2617 02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:26,440 Speaker 1: I think that if you can catch eighty eight balls 2618 02:06:26,720 --> 02:06:30,360 Speaker 1: for fourteen hundred yards and five touchdowns when CJ. Bethard 2619 02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:33,440 Speaker 1: and Nick Mullins are thrown you the football, you know 2620 02:06:33,840 --> 02:06:36,320 Speaker 1: he's going to take a big step if Jimmy Garoppolo 2621 02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:39,600 Speaker 1: can stay healthy. So yeah, I think Kittle's maybe the 2622 02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:42,080 Speaker 1: closest thing the NFL has to gron never been a 2623 02:06:42,160 --> 02:06:45,520 Speaker 1: Chiefs fan. This is a little side light here. Today's 2624 02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:53,760 Speaker 1: ruling non suspension for for Tyreek Hill lost his name 2625 02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:56,080 Speaker 1: there for a second. That makes the Chiefs even less 2626 02:06:56,120 --> 02:06:57,880 Speaker 1: likable in my mind. You know, I'm really gonna root 2627 02:06:57,920 --> 02:07:00,680 Speaker 1: against them now because of that, because he probably shouldn't 2628 02:07:00,680 --> 02:07:02,880 Speaker 1: be playing. I understand why the league didn't do anything. 2629 02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:05,520 Speaker 1: But I don't think the Chiefs. I like my homes, 2630 02:07:05,560 --> 02:07:08,760 Speaker 1: appreciate my home's talent. I've never been an Andy Reef fan. 2631 02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:10,720 Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna find myself rooting very often for 2632 02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:13,120 Speaker 1: the kan City Chiefs. Yeah, I mean there's definitely some 2633 02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:15,480 Speaker 1: soul searching going on out there in Kansas City. I mean, 2634 02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:18,880 Speaker 1: one of the most passionate, rabid fan bases that you'll find. 2635 02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:21,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that Arrow had I mean, that AFC Championship 2636 02:07:21,320 --> 02:07:25,360 Speaker 1: game was just unbelievable. Atmosphere were there, I was, I was, Yeah, 2637 02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:27,800 Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was unreal. And now these 2638 02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:31,760 Speaker 1: fans have to cheer for somebody involved with all of this. 2639 02:07:32,200 --> 02:07:35,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's um, It's gonna be difficult, but they 2640 02:07:35,320 --> 02:07:38,920 Speaker 1: will finally. True or false, the Philadelphia Eagles have the 2641 02:07:38,920 --> 02:07:42,360 Speaker 1: best pass rush in the NFL, mostly anchored my Fletcher 2642 02:07:42,440 --> 02:07:45,360 Speaker 1: Cox ninety five pressures last season, the most by any 2643 02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:48,800 Speaker 1: defensive tackle other than Aaron Donald. I'll go true with this. Yeah, 2644 02:07:48,840 --> 02:07:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't have a better pass rush than the Eagles 2645 02:07:50,680 --> 02:07:53,560 Speaker 1: last year. What do you think? Yeah, I'll go false. 2646 02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:55,960 Speaker 1: I'll play contrarian Harry. Yeah, I mean the Eagles have 2647 02:07:56,160 --> 02:07:59,200 Speaker 1: a great pass rush. But I feel like Jacksonville is 2648 02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:01,760 Speaker 1: right there, I mean unique and got que one of 2649 02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:04,560 Speaker 1: the best edge rushers that none of us really talked 2650 02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:07,360 Speaker 1: that much about. And then they drafted the other Josh Allen. 2651 02:08:07,480 --> 02:08:09,360 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how he fell to Jacksonville, 2652 02:08:09,480 --> 02:08:13,640 Speaker 1: what it was like. Seventh overall, really thought he'd go early, 2653 02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:16,280 Speaker 1: maybe even to the Jets. So they've got all kinds 2654 02:08:16,280 --> 02:08:19,160 Speaker 1: of options up from Klais. Campbell was the best, maybe 2655 02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:21,680 Speaker 1: the best defensive player in football a couple of years ago. 2656 02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:24,760 Speaker 1: So that gives Jacksonville shot in that division, a really 2657 02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:26,480 Speaker 1: good division. All of a sudden, there you go, NFL 2658 02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:28,560 Speaker 1: True or Falls. Brought to you by Yancey's, Fancy New 2659 02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:30,840 Speaker 1: York's artists and Cheese. We're back with more One Bills 2660 02:08:30,840 --> 02:08:33,760 Speaker 1: live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio 2661 02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:48,000 Speaker 1: all right time. Now for what do we learned from 2662 02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:51,400 Speaker 1: today's show. It is presented by Advanced Alarm, providing Western 2663 02:08:51,440 --> 02:08:54,720 Speaker 1: New York's homes and businesses with the finest and security 2664 02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:57,400 Speaker 1: in home theater. We preferred Alarm and home theater provider 2665 02:08:57,400 --> 02:08:59,440 Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. We had great Cosll on the 2666 02:08:59,440 --> 02:09:02,800 Speaker 1: show with us to today from NFL Film senior producer there, 2667 02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:04,840 Speaker 1: he's done a lot of film study the Bills, Josh 2668 02:09:04,920 --> 02:09:08,560 Speaker 1: Allen and even last year's first rounder Tremaine Edmonds, the linebacker. 2669 02:09:08,680 --> 02:09:11,080 Speaker 1: We asked him about Treine Edmonds and what he saw 2670 02:09:11,200 --> 02:09:12,960 Speaker 1: from his film study is he gets set for his 2671 02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:17,760 Speaker 1: second year. The term I always use his play recognition 2672 02:09:18,080 --> 02:09:21,960 Speaker 1: because what you have to understand you have to understand formations. 2673 02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:24,320 Speaker 1: You have to understand the depth of the back. You 2674 02:09:24,360 --> 02:09:26,880 Speaker 1: have to understand where the back is. You know which 2675 02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:29,960 Speaker 1: side he's offset. Is he offset to the passing strength 2676 02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:33,240 Speaker 1: or to the running strain. Those kinds of things you 2677 02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:37,560 Speaker 1: have to understand, spatial awareness you're based on formation. Those 2678 02:09:37,600 --> 02:09:39,480 Speaker 1: are the kinds of things where I think a young 2679 02:09:39,760 --> 02:09:43,000 Speaker 1: MIC linebacker always has to get better, and I think 2680 02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:46,200 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edwards started to get a feel for that as 2681 02:09:46,240 --> 02:09:49,120 Speaker 1: the season progressed. He'll get better in that area and 2682 02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:53,840 Speaker 1: then you'll really see the outstanding athleticism show up more 2683 02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:56,760 Speaker 1: snap after snap after snap. But but I thought he 2684 02:09:56,920 --> 02:10:00,440 Speaker 1: started to move in that direction the b The sort 2685 02:10:00,440 --> 02:10:04,720 Speaker 1: of cliche for a stacked Mike linebacker is he has 2686 02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:07,080 Speaker 1: to play with his eyes, and I think that that's 2687 02:10:07,160 --> 02:10:10,480 Speaker 1: critical for Tremaine Edmonds. The athletic ability is clearly there. 2688 02:10:10,640 --> 02:10:14,360 Speaker 1: Great cosll on Bill's linebacker Tremaine Edmunds Bills with the 2689 02:10:14,440 --> 02:10:18,160 Speaker 1: roster move today, they announced that backup safety, the veteran 2690 02:10:18,240 --> 02:10:21,760 Speaker 1: Raphael Bush, has decided to retire after nine years five 2691 02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:24,839 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL, and the Bills signed a veteran safety, 2692 02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:27,600 Speaker 1: Kurt Coleman, in his tenth year out of Ohio State, 2693 02:10:27,800 --> 02:10:30,800 Speaker 1: played last year with the Saints last year sixteen games played, 2694 02:10:30,920 --> 02:10:33,160 Speaker 1: nine starts. He's played with the Eagles where he was 2695 02:10:33,200 --> 02:10:35,720 Speaker 1: a seventh round pick, played a little bit with Kansas City, 2696 02:10:35,800 --> 02:10:38,880 Speaker 1: and a couple of years four years with the Carolina Panthers, 2697 02:10:38,920 --> 02:10:42,680 Speaker 1: sometime under Sean McDermott there and in Philadelphia. And one 2698 02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:46,120 Speaker 1: more note, as we said, camp starts next Thursday, will 2699 02:10:46,160 --> 02:10:49,120 Speaker 1: be there two weeks from today. It's the Bill's Colts game, 2700 02:10:49,160 --> 02:10:52,440 Speaker 1: first preseason game, Thursday, August eighth, and that his Kids' Day. 2701 02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:55,160 Speaker 1: The Bills made this announcement yesterday. Kids' Day at the 2702 02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:58,240 Speaker 1: Stadium Thursday, August eight Bills and Colts first preseason game. 2703 02:10:58,520 --> 02:11:01,240 Speaker 1: It's presented by Connors and Fairs. The eighteenth Kids Day 2704 02:11:01,280 --> 02:11:05,200 Speaker 1: Game special ticket pricing, seven o'clock kickoff, all kinds of 2705 02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:07,560 Speaker 1: events for kids that day, and go to our website 2706 02:11:07,800 --> 02:11:10,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot com to check that out. Kids' Day 2707 02:11:10,040 --> 02:11:14,520 Speaker 1: coming up August, they say, two weeks, No, August eight, 2708 02:11:15,640 --> 02:11:18,640 Speaker 1: three weeks away when the preseason games begin. Tyler, it's 2709 02:11:18,680 --> 02:11:20,320 Speaker 1: been great day have you here. Thanks for filling in 2710 02:11:20,360 --> 02:11:22,200 Speaker 1: for Steve the last couple of days. We look forward 2711 02:11:22,200 --> 02:11:25,240 Speaker 1: to your piece on your pieces. I'm sure there's gonna 2712 02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:27,080 Speaker 1: be more than one on the Cleveland Browns coming up 2713 02:11:27,080 --> 02:11:28,880 Speaker 1: in the in the Niners piece too, right, Yeah, man, 2714 02:11:28,920 --> 02:11:30,760 Speaker 1: it's been great being here too with you. Thanks so much. 2715 02:11:31,000 --> 02:11:32,720 Speaker 1: What do you think of our little show here? Love it? 2716 02:11:33,320 --> 02:11:35,840 Speaker 1: It's great. It's cozy. These are the dog days. You 2717 02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:39,120 Speaker 1: can probably tell that, Isn't it just great? Like finally 2718 02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:42,120 Speaker 1: we can just see players on a field. Yes, now, 2719 02:11:42,160 --> 02:11:46,440 Speaker 1: for months we've been just forecasting and pontificating and predicting, 2720 02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:49,200 Speaker 1: and now we just see for real. You know what 2721 02:11:49,440 --> 02:11:53,440 Speaker 1: is Yes, everybody and people think I'm crazy. I really 2722 02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:56,000 Speaker 1: like training camp. Yes, I like going to watch players 2723 02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:57,880 Speaker 1: on the field. I like to see about all of 2724 02:11:57,880 --> 02:12:00,760 Speaker 1: the offseason stuff that's been set out. These guys like 2725 02:12:00,880 --> 02:12:03,480 Speaker 1: forming my own opinions on who these people are, how 2726 02:12:03,520 --> 02:12:06,440 Speaker 1: they play, what they might provide. I like the stories 2727 02:12:06,480 --> 02:12:09,760 Speaker 1: that emerge during training camp, you know, like, because believe me, 2728 02:12:09,800 --> 02:12:12,360 Speaker 1: there's at least one, maybe a handful of guys who 2729 02:12:12,640 --> 02:12:14,800 Speaker 1: I might not expect much from. We were gonna shine 2730 02:12:14,800 --> 02:12:16,600 Speaker 1: in training camp and every camp. I'll just deal with 2731 02:12:16,600 --> 02:12:18,640 Speaker 1: the Bills. You'll be all over the league, but you'll 2732 02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:20,760 Speaker 1: see that, you'll see guys you never expected, right, you know, 2733 02:12:20,920 --> 02:12:23,280 Speaker 1: right and here in Buffalo or say Saint John Fisher, 2734 02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:26,160 Speaker 1: you don't have to really hear talk about process and 2735 02:12:26,240 --> 02:12:29,240 Speaker 1: culture and all those words anymore. It's it's it's time 2736 02:12:29,240 --> 02:12:31,680 Speaker 1: to win for the Bills, you know, in year three. 2737 02:12:31,720 --> 02:12:33,560 Speaker 1: And I think what you see in training camp is 2738 02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:36,160 Speaker 1: going to tell you, you know what to expect the season. 2739 02:12:36,680 --> 02:12:38,360 Speaker 1: We might not get a chance to get you back 2740 02:12:38,360 --> 02:12:40,240 Speaker 1: on the show before the season begins. So let me 2741 02:12:40,280 --> 02:12:41,840 Speaker 1: ask you now, and we don't need a long answer 2742 02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:43,920 Speaker 1: to this, how many wins for the Bills in two 2743 02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:47,840 Speaker 1: tho nineteen? What do you think, oh man, um putting 2744 02:12:47,840 --> 02:12:50,680 Speaker 1: you on the spot, let's go seven to nine? Seven 2745 02:12:50,680 --> 02:12:53,880 Speaker 1: wins is all. I'm just a big old buzz kill, Yeah, Yeah, 2746 02:12:53,920 --> 02:12:56,400 Speaker 1: you're never coming back, you know. You know, I like, 2747 02:12:56,560 --> 02:12:59,280 Speaker 1: let's realistic. I think that nine wins is realistic. I 2748 02:12:59,280 --> 02:13:01,840 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see like promise in the quarterback. That's 2749 02:13:01,920 --> 02:13:03,880 Speaker 1: number one, right, you want to see some promise. I'm 2750 02:13:03,880 --> 02:13:06,280 Speaker 1: improvement out of Josh Allen. Maybe that's more important than 2751 02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:08,240 Speaker 1: even the win loss record. Tyler, thanks for it's been 2752 02:13:08,280 --> 02:13:10,040 Speaker 1: great having you here. Thank you, Tyler done. You can 2753 02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:12,920 Speaker 1: follow him on Bleacher Report covering the Bills and the 2754 02:13:12,920 --> 02:13:16,040 Speaker 1: rest of the NFL. Thanks to our production assistants George Blast, 2755 02:13:16,080 --> 02:13:20,280 Speaker 1: Jeff Colton, Thomas honad Or, Kelly Rude, JJ Tarito, Kevin Carcis, 2756 02:13:20,320 --> 02:13:23,440 Speaker 1: James Robolt, our producer Jay Harris, Steve comes back Monday. 2757 02:13:23,480 --> 02:13:25,920 Speaker 1: Will be at camp next Thursday and Friday. One Bill 2758 02:13:25,960 --> 02:13:28,600 Speaker 1: Side presented by Kalada Health from One Bill's Drive on 2759 02:13:28,760 --> 02:13:29,960 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio.