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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you,

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Speaker 2: Bobby Acard with us, Bobby, where's your book available? Is

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Speaker 2: it on Amazon bookstores?

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Speaker 3: Yesterday? Is on? They can go to my website Bobbyacart

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Speaker 3: dot com and see everything that I've written. But also

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Speaker 3: if you type my name into the Amazon search engine,

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Speaker 3: all of the books will come up, and I come.

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Speaker 3: I write in produce ebooks. I produce paperbacks, jacketed hardcovers

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Speaker 3: and also audio books. I know a lot of your

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Speaker 3: listeners are truckers, and I appreciate everything they do. And

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Speaker 3: in fact, I wanted to tell you that if they

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Speaker 3: would email me at Bobby Acart at gmail dot com,

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Speaker 3: if they'll pick out an audiobook that they like, I'll

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Speaker 3: provide them a code for Audible and so they can

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Speaker 3: listen to it for free.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's great, and a lot of visually impaired people

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Speaker 2: to love these audio books. To be sure, you've got

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Speaker 2: social network platform and we've got your website linked up

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Speaker 2: at coastacostam dot com. Bobby, you mentioned the eighteen fifty

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Speaker 2: nine Carrington event which was a major X flare from

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Speaker 2: the Sun which killed the wireless systems that we had

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Speaker 2: available at the time, which was the Western Union, the telegraph,

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Speaker 2: and things like that. If it happened today, we're up

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Speaker 2: a creek, aren't we.

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Speaker 3: Well they our wiring is not prepared for the massive

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Speaker 3: energy burst that would enter into our atmosphere, and then

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Speaker 3: once it hits our atmosphere, the atmosphere works like a

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Speaker 3: protective shield. And the reason you see these beautiful aurora

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Speaker 3: near the North Pole, you know, the hues of greens

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Speaker 3: and blues and purple, sometimes oranges, is because our atmosphere

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Speaker 3: is weakest at the poles. So when these massive solar

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Speaker 3: flares and all of this plasma hurtles through space and

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Speaker 3: hits the planet, then it into our atmosphere through the

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Speaker 3: north Poles and creates the aurora. And sometimes when they're

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Speaker 3: extremely strong, you'll see weather watchers and space watchers say

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Speaker 3: we could see aurora as far south as the mid

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Speaker 3: latitudes of the United States, and some people get excited

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Speaker 3: by that. I, on the other hand, think, I know

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Speaker 3: what this could do to our way of life, because

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Speaker 3: when we built all of our electrical grid and everything

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Speaker 3: fine components of all of these electronic devices are not

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Speaker 3: capable of withstanding the pulse of energy that would literally

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Speaker 3: fry them and just ruin them. And it's a naturally

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Speaker 3: occurring event. It happens all of the time. In twenty twelve,

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Speaker 3: we barely dodged a solar flare nearly as strong as

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Speaker 3: the Carrington event of eighteen fifty nine by only seven

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Speaker 3: or eight days in these so if the Earth had

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Speaker 3: been in a certain location as it revolves around the Sun,

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Speaker 3: we would have taken a direct hit. And we're wholly

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Speaker 3: unprepared for this. Back in the nineties, Congressman Gingrich, then

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Speaker 3: Speaker of the House, led a commission called the EMP Commission,

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Speaker 3: and laid all the science out for Congress and said,

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Speaker 3: we need to do something to protect our power grid

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Speaker 3: from this type of event. And in typical government fashion,

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Speaker 3: they found other things to spend their money on. So

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Speaker 3: it's something that they're aware of in Washington, but it's

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Speaker 3: also something that they have done precious little to protect

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Speaker 2: It's not a matter of this, it's a matter of

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Speaker 2: when it's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Well, absolutely, and then to take it one step further.

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Speaker 3: People ask me all the time, Well, there's these natural

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Speaker 3: And we have the nuclear capability to detonate a nuclear device,

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Speaker 1: To do that.

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Speaker 3: Ground zero ground zero for targeted EMP. And then when

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Speaker 3: this EMP is detonated, you know, three four hundred miles

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Speaker 3: then these these powerful energy particles will then hit everything

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Speaker 3: from our cars to well, you know everything we've discussed.

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Speaker 2: Again, you had mentioned earlier about the mass extinction events

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Speaker 3: Don't you. You're exactly right. There are a number of

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Speaker 3: very good. The first thought is, well, we have powerful

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Speaker 3: But then instead of having one near Earth object approaching

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Speaker 3: is is that many times they call the NEOs ineo,

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Speaker 3: The larger ones that make impact have a profound effect.

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Speaker 3: the Asteroid Trilogy. You hit the asteroid hard enough not

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Speaker 3: And they're aware of this at NASA. They have practiced

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Speaker 3: back to the problem. Oftentimes, these NEOs are missed by

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Speaker 2: Bobby earlier this year is seven point eight at earthquake

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Speaker 3: Well, a mass extinction would probably require something greater than

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Speaker 3: But with earthquakes, they just happen. And if it happens underwater,

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Speaker 2: About two and a half years ago, you and I

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Speaker 2: were talking about your book New Madered Earthquake about the

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Speaker 2: New Madured fault which cuts Ron through Saint Louis. Why

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Speaker 3: Well, San Andreas is probably the best known, and Hollywood

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Speaker 3: And it's significant because of its location where the plates

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Speaker 3: one of the most severe potential earthquakes that we could

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Speaker 3: known as the New Madrid Seismic system. And when New

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. And in addition to Arcstorm, a couple others

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Speaker 3: I followed the science, and with Arcstorm, I studied what

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Speaker 3: and then San Andreas got involved. Because earthquakes can trigger

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Speaker 3: their close proximity to one another, and so Fractured takes

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Speaker 3: the series of catastrophes a step further. After the arcstorm

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Speaker 2: And Yellowstone is overdue for an eruption, isn't.

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Speaker 3: It it is? You know, it's a funny thing about timing.

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Speaker 3: But then you go to them and you say, well,

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Speaker 3: you know this.

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Speaker 2: You don't know that it could happen anytime Yeah.

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Speaker 3: If you can't predict it, how can you assure me

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Speaker 3: it's not going to happen anytime soon? Which is why

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Speaker 3: I write these novels. I want people to understand that

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Speaker 3: what you may hear from the media or you might

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Speaker 3: hear from government officials, is it necessarily what could happen.

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Speaker 3: And so when you look at something as catastrophic as

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