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Speaker 1: A new bi weekly show on the Fish Stripes podcast

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Speaker 1: starring Isaaca Zoot and Kevin Barrah. Fish Stripes Unfiltered starts

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: Fish Strip's Unfiltered. My name is Kevin back with Isaaca Zoot.

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Speaker 2: It feels like it's been a long time, but it

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Speaker 2: really hasn't. It's just been a week. Uh no, Marlin's

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Speaker 2: baseball thingfully, you know, the season's over, playoffs star end.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, Isaac, how are you man? It feels

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Speaker 2: weird when I have Marlin's Baseball, But I mean it

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Speaker 2: feels pretty good at the same time because we don't

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Speaker 2: have to see a team lose. So I mean, how

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Speaker 2: are you man?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mercifully the season came to an end a couple

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Speaker 3: of days ago. It has it does feel like we've

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Speaker 3: been you know, we haven't done this in a long time.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just you know, the end of the

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Speaker 3: season and me covering some games and and it just

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Speaker 3: it really does seem like it's more than two weeks

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Speaker 3: for sure. But I'm glad to be here and looking

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Speaker 3: forward to today's episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do have a lot to talk about, as

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Speaker 2: well as the Q and A. Finally, I mean, we've

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Speaker 2: been wanting to do this for a while. We finally

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Speaker 2: got some questions, so we'll get that for sure. But

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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna start with the Nalyast talk about

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Speaker 2: that division, what we saw from it this year, and

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Speaker 2: you know what the future of that division for sure

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Speaker 2: looks like. And I would say it was one that

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Speaker 2: we thought was gonna be the most competitive division and

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Speaker 2: maybe turned out to be the worst division in the

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Speaker 2: in the season. I mean, what were your thoughts on that, Isaac.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the first thing that comes to mind, honestly,

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Speaker 3: is just such a shame because this division we thought

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Speaker 3: going into it, like you said, was just gonna be

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Speaker 3: a brutal division to compete in, and it turned out

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Speaker 3: the division was up for grabs. And it's a shame

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Speaker 3: because the Marlins, you know, going into this year, we're

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Speaker 3: like really hoping to be competitive and eighty seven or

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, eighty eight eighty nine wins would have secured

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Speaker 3: the title, but unfortunately Martins weren't even close. They finished

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Speaker 3: fourth in division and luckily not last. They finished two

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Speaker 3: hopefully the division stays pretty, you know, noncompetent in the

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Speaker 3: get their first division title in franchise history. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: I think it's pretty much a repeat of last year

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Speaker 3: on what the division looked like. I know it was

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Speaker 3: it was Marlin's second in twenty twenty, then followed by

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Speaker 3: the Phillies, then the Mets and finally the Nationals. This season,

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Speaker 3: it looks a little bit different. It was it's Braves, Phillies, Mets, Marlins, Nationals.

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Speaker 3: I mean kind of what it looked like in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Very similar, I would say, yeah, you look at it.

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Speaker 3: This division had a lot of hype going into it,

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Speaker 2: The Braves have a Kunya obviously, the Marlins seem to

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Speaker 2: I mean, what are your expectations for that division in

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Speaker 3: I mean really quick. On the division for this year,

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Speaker 3: I think the couple of surprises were the Mets. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thought they could have taken it. They really could have.

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Speaker 2: It was Miami's division to win, and they really couldn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think there was maybe a small

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Marlins really never got it going. And I

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Speaker 2: He was no, he was not renewed. What are your

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Speaker 3: you know, stuff to see him go. But to be honest,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, JP, Todd was a weird guy. I mean he

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Speaker 2: He looked at it more in the players perspective. For sure.

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Speaker 2: Miami's made this a target. It looks like Craig talked

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Speaker 3: I'll keep him brief. A dream scenario, definitely adream scenario

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Speaker 3: that just seems a little unlikely, just due to the

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I think Sandy really should the bed this year.

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Speaker 3: So you just look at it. You know, the numbers

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Speaker 4: So one two swinging Hiish for strike three, and there

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Speaker 2: Now it's just the extension man, And I know Craig

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Speaker 3: Well, for Sandy, if you guys just saw a sense

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Speaker 3: No, you already said that he's gonna be the ace.

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Speaker 2: And the worst part about it, you know about this

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Speaker 3: to fifteen. Just that just speaks like, look at his

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Speaker 3: numbers and look at his record, just speaks to how

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Speaker 3: dreadful this Marlins offense was. So that's why that's all

432
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Speaker 3: they're gonna be dealing with this offseason. Hopefully and hopefully

433
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Speaker 3: that win lost record will even out a little bit

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: And that is exactly why we're gonna start talking about

436
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Speaker 2: I guess free agency spotlight is why I'm gonna call it.

437
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Speaker 2: We're gonna go through a position of choice and this

438
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Speaker 2: time we're gonna go catch it because that is a

439
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Speaker 2: diehard need for the Marlins. I'm gonna read off the

440
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Speaker 2: names that I guess are the most notable ones because

441
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 2: some of them we literally don't care about it, probably

442
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Speaker 2: won't sign with a team. Uh. There's Tucker Barnhardt who

443
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Speaker 2: has an option with the Reds is a seven million

444
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 2: dollar option. It's a club option, So I'm assuming they

445
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Speaker 2: either decline it and try to get him in a

446
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Speaker 2: cheaper contract, or they take it and just keep him.

447
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Speaker 2: Then you have Robinson, Chirino's Young Goms, Sandy Leone, Jeff

448
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Speaker 2: Mathis form an old friend of ours, Roberto Perez, Manny Pina,

449
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Speaker 2: Buster Posey, Wilson Ramos, Austin Roman, Kurts Suzuki, Christian Vasquez,

450
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Speaker 2: Mike Zunino. Out of all those names, which one I

451
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Speaker 2: guess stands out to you? And I think we might

452
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Speaker 2: have the Sea manager on this one.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if we're gonna go through free agency, which

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Speaker 3: I think they're all gonna go through a trade for

455
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Speaker 3: a catcher, whether it's Wilson Contra Jacob Stallings, where they

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Speaker 3: go free agency, which is a possibility. If they go,

457
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Speaker 3: do sign you know, one of or they make the

458
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Speaker 3: big trays like for a Brian Reynolds or for a

459
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Speaker 3: center fielder. Maybe they do go, you know, budget free

460
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Speaker 3: agent signing for the catch the position. Jong Goms would

461
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Speaker 3: be my choice if I were running the team. He's

462
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Speaker 3: the guy they the realistic option that they could get.

463
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Speaker 3: And the other one is Mike Zunino. I think the

464
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Speaker 3: power potential is just crazy enough potential because he's already

465
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Speaker 3: proven it. He's playing with the Raise right now. I

466
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Speaker 3: think he would be a realistic option as well. I

467
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Speaker 3: even though four million is not a lot, I can

468
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Speaker 3: see the Rays just buying him out, honestly because they

469
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Speaker 3: have some other good catchers on that ball club. So

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Speaker 3: I think Mike Zuanino could be a realistic option there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on a four million club option right now,

472
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Speaker 2: so at the end of the year it's a one

473
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Speaker 2: million dollar buyout. So yeah, maybe they actually do do this.

474
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Speaker 2: I was gonna see Zunino as the option, you know.

475
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Speaker 2: And then you also have Sandy Leone, who I mean,

476
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Speaker 2: that guy was great for the Marlins last season, pitched

477
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Speaker 2: and everything. I mean cyon candidate, but I mean, yeah,

478
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Speaker 2: realistically speaking, Sandy Leone actually could be an option to

479
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Speaker 2: bring back when he really look at worked well with

480
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Speaker 2: the young guys, just can't do anything offensively, so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just give him a minor league deal with

482
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Speaker 3: an invite to spring training, have him be the fifth

483
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Speaker 3: or sixth catcher depth wise, and if you need him,

484
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Speaker 3: you need them, but hopefully you don't.

485
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Speaker 2: And if anything, you can just keep them in the

486
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Speaker 2: minor leagues, kind of like what Robinson Turnos did this

487
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Speaker 2: year with the Yankees. So I just started this season,

488
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Speaker 2: he went then went to Chicago and you know he

489
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Speaker 2: did this thing there. So yeah, my trust would be

490
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Speaker 2: Mike Zunino. If Christian Vasquez or Roveta Perez don't come

491
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Speaker 2: back to their teams, I would take a look at them,

492
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Speaker 2: especially if they don't make it controller's trade. But really

493
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Speaker 2: looking at it, the catcher market isn't that hot in

494
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Speaker 2: this year, so I think it would make sense for

495
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Speaker 2: at least the Marlins to make trades. Obviously, other MLB

496
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Speaker 2: teams are gonna go after these guys for sure. I

497
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Speaker 2: mean Tampa would be one to have some to bring

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Speaker 2: back Zunino for especially since they asked pretty young catchers

499
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Speaker 2: on their roster. I mean a lot of their team

500
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Speaker 2: is run by this minor league system, which is probably

501
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Speaker 2: the best in baseball. They just bring guys up, developed them,

502
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Speaker 2: they do well, and then they trade them pretty much.

503
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Speaker 2: That's what it's looked like. And you know, we saw

504
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Speaker 2: it with Blake's noew, we saw it with some other

505
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Speaker 2: guys on that team. You could probably name a couple

506
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Speaker 2: of two, Isaac, But I mean Tampa's just that team

507
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Speaker 2: that bruised the guys and then trades them after a

508
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Speaker 2: couple of seasons up in the in the in the

509
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Speaker 2: major league team, maybe they do that, but I mean

510
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Speaker 2: Zunino's I think, is one of those guys who who

511
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Speaker 2: who will help those young catchers in the minor league

512
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Speaker 2: system for Tampa. Then you have Christian Vasquez, who who

513
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Speaker 2: is another guy who who really has shown up for

514
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Speaker 2: Boston this season. He's been pretty decent. I don't know

515
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Speaker 2: if you have the stats there, but Vasque's for sure

516
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Speaker 2: he could help out Boston if he if he does

517
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Speaker 2: go back, but if he doesn't, he could go to

518
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Speaker 2: a contending team. I think I mentioned the Dodgers, but

519
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Speaker 2: they have Will Smith, they have the backups, so I

520
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Speaker 2: don't think he'll go there. Maybe Washington's a good fit

521
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Speaker 2: for Vasquez. I mean, what are those guys that are

522
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Speaker 2: really looking into the free agent market going to either

523
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Speaker 2: contending teams or like you know, maybe those rebuilding teams

524
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Speaker 2: like Baltimore or New mar Leans.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I mean, like you said, like that, the free

526
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Speaker 3: agent you know, market for catching is just thin. Just

527
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Speaker 3: the catching position overall in Major League Baseball is pretty thin.

528
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Speaker 3: If you're not JT. Realmuto, or you're not Salvador Perez

529
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Speaker 3: or Goes Money. Grondal is a thin position all around

530
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Speaker 3: the big leagues. I think the Rays they liked their

531
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Speaker 3: young catcher, Francisco mayhe had a switch hitter. I think

532
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Speaker 3: they like him a lot, and he's performed pretty well.

533
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Speaker 3: So if I had a choose, and I think like

534
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Speaker 3: Zumina would be a would be a chill fit. I

535
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Speaker 3: don't think he should be the star acquisition this offseason.

536
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Speaker 3: But to answer your question about whether they're gonna go tokay,

537
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Speaker 3: I think whatever team needs a catch is gonna get

538
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Speaker 3: a catcher. That's that.

539
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess we'll keep going with the catchers.

540
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Speaker 2: Here a little Marlins talk. I mean we talked about it, well,

541
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Speaker 2: you guys did on that final show of the season.

542
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Speaker 2: I wasn't there, unfortunately, but you guys talked about Controa's

543
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's the guy that I think He's the

544
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Speaker 2: big fish when it comes to catchers for the Marlins.

545
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Speaker 2: Stallings would be another option, but obviously we would like

546
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Speaker 2: to go after the top five catcher in Wilson Contrea's,

547
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Speaker 2: especially since now we know Peyton Burdicks the Minor League

548
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 2: player of the year. The value went up. That was

549
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Speaker 2: the deal break in The Marlins didn't do it at

550
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Speaker 2: the time. We revisit that trade right now, Isaac, what

551
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Speaker 2: do you pull the trigger for Burdick, if it was

552
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Speaker 2: for Verdick.

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Speaker 3: If there was any sort of possibility that an extension

554
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Speaker 3: was close. Yeah, even if not, Yeah, because I think

555
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two needs to be the year that they

556
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Speaker 3: at least make the playoffs or at least are like

557
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Speaker 3: three games out. But I was talking to Danny Elfirs

558
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 3: about this about Controras, and you know, contarist is Venezuelan.

559
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Speaker 3: He's a catcher. He fills a neat position of need.

560
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Speaker 3: And Danny doesn't want Wilson Contrats on the Marlins. And

561
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Speaker 3: I was just like why, and he wouldn't give me

562
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 3: a straight answer. But he's just like, no, like he

563
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Speaker 3: I don't I'm not sure why. I think maybe he

564
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Speaker 3: has to do with the personality maybe has to do

565
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Speaker 3: with him developing pitchers. I'm not sure what it was.

566
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Speaker 3: I'll try. I'll talk to him again on Tuesday. But yeah,

567
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Speaker 3: Wilson Cocherz was someone that you know, he wasn't very

568
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Speaker 3: excited about. I personally would love him in a Marls uniform.

569
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Speaker 3: I think he is one of the better offensive catchers

570
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Speaker 3: in all of baseball. He gets on base and his

571
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Speaker 3: OPS was a bit under eight hundred at seven to

572
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Speaker 3: seventy eight. His OPS plus was one h eight above

573
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Speaker 3: the average. So and he has a hose of an

574
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Speaker 3: arm behind home plate. So I think if you can

575
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Speaker 3: get him for not a easy amount like maybe Burdick

576
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Speaker 3: and more arms would be a little bit too much.

577
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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking because he only has one year level

578
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Speaker 3: of control. So you know, you remember the Many Machado

579
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Speaker 3: trade for example, and they didn't get that much. So

580
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Speaker 3: I think they could probably work out a deal where

581
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Speaker 3: it doesn't kill the system.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the key. But the biggest key,

583
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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, was he's on a one year deal.

584
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Speaker 2: I mean, you kind of have to make sure this

585
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Speaker 2: guy's going to resign with you. I mean there's probably

586
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Speaker 2: gonna be some tampering or something if that happens. I mean,

587
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you can talk to the guy

588
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Speaker 2: and be like, hey, you know you want to resign

589
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Speaker 2: with us, you know, at the end of the season.

590
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Speaker 2: But I think Alex said it the best. I mean,

591
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Speaker 2: you have to talk, you have to secure that this

592
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Speaker 2: guy's going to pretty much resign with you once that

593
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Speaker 2: time comes around. And I think I put up but

594
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Speaker 2: I didn't put it up. I haven't put it up yet.

595
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Speaker 2: At least I have a trade scenario already, which is

596
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Speaker 2: contrast goes to mind me for Berdick Nicholas and Evan Fitter,

597
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 2: which that seems like a good trade because Fitter really

598
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: hasn't worked out for the Marlins. Nicholas is a guy

599
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Speaker 2: who they brought up around trade deadline kind of for

600
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Speaker 2: a showcase kind of scenario where they show him off,

601
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Speaker 2: you know, in the higher levels, which double is a

602
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 2: pretty difficult level to play, to play in. And then

603
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 2: you give up Peyton Burdick, which was the guy that

604
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: Chicago wanted in the first place, and now he's a

605
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: minor League Player of the year. You have Brian Dela Cruz,

606
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: which at the time you didn't at that trade, so

607
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 2: it does make sense to make that deal, but I

608
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Speaker 2: think securing that Controst resounds with tomorrows is what the

609
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: biggest part of any transaction to bring him into Miami

610
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Speaker 2: would be. And also he does bring fans. He's gonna

611
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Speaker 2: bring fans to the crowd, to the to the stadium,

612
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Speaker 2: which is something that I think we all want to see.

613
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Speaker 2: We all want to see a pretty packed stadium. So

614
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Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of scenario you would have

615
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Speaker 2: in a trade, Isaac.

616
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Speaker 3: I think Brian Dela Cruz's immersions should be irrelevant when

617
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Speaker 3: discussing any potential trade for Wilson contra Arris. I think

618
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Speaker 3: what I think is that if you're going to trade

619
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Speaker 3: Peyton Burdick, who has you know, immense potential, I don't

620
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Speaker 3: think that, you know, beggars can't be choosers here when

621
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Speaker 3: we know the Marlins need to catch it more than

622
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Speaker 3: I think any team in Major Baseball, So yeah, they

623
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Speaker 3: really really need. We can't sit on our asses and say,

624
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Speaker 3: you know, I'm speaking as if I'm them, say oh,

625
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Speaker 3: we you know, we we don't want to do this

626
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Speaker 3: if unless we have an extension lined up. Jeter said it,

627
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 3: miss said it. There is an incredible amount of pressure

628
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Speaker 3: for twenty twenty two. So if twenty twenty two is

629
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Speaker 3: what matters and it goes well with Contreras on a

630
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 3: one year deal, he'll want to resign. And if he doesn't,

631
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Speaker 3: then what you didn't give up that much to begin

632
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Speaker 3: with because there was only a one year, one year deal.

633
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Speaker 3: It was a one year rental that you were trying

634
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: to acquire. So I think that trade proposal that you

635
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 3: you made it was really what was really good. I

636
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: think it's a little a little bit much because I

637
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Speaker 3: think Fitterer has a lot of potential. I think Nicholas

638
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: has a lot of potential, and Bertick is obviously like

639
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: the centerpiece of that deal. So maybe you can get

640
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: away with less if you're the Madelins. Maybe I'm totally wrong.

641
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Speaker 3: I'm not a front office executive, but yeah, it'd be

642
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Speaker 3: something along the lines of a guy like Bertick, a

643
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Speaker 3: guy like Scott, as well as one more one or

644
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: two more sweeteners.

645
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's not much more to say. It's

646
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: just try to get the guy in and yeah, you're

647
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: right when it comes to Hey, if the Mornins make

648
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: the playoffs, they have a pretty good playoff run. Maybe

649
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: they get to the second round and then they lose

650
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: their Contre's is gonna want to stay. I mean it

651
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: was either stay in Chicago, which they're probably gonna go

652
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: in through a rebuild, now a really long rebuild, or

653
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: you go to Miami. You have a chance to compete,

654
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: You make the playoffs, hopefully a successful playoffrun, and then

655
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: you can stay there for a couple more years. You

656
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: resign a deal. Maybe Miami can get away with a

657
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: very cheap deal. Maybe you give up maybe only Burdick

658
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: and Fitter, and you keep Nicholas and put him in

659
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: a deal for maybe Brian Reynolds, and then you bring

660
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: in Contrere's Reynolds and if you sign and you have

661
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: a big three right there. Or maybe I don't know,

662
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: maybe it goes down to spring training and they make

663
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: the deal. At spring training you decide between Peyton Burdick

664
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Speaker 2: or Dela Cruz. I know that's been the talk. Let's

665
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Speaker 2: say de La Cruz doesn't show up in spring training,

666
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a good spring training, and Peyton Burdick

667
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: just mashes it there. What do you consider trading Dela

668
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: Cruz and keeping Burdick as that fourth outfielder.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean one more thing. I know this is

670
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: not a Cubs podcast, but you gotta just be curious

671
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: about what they're thinking. You know, they they literally tore

672
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: it down to the like, holy shit, they could not

673
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: have put that a more ineffective lineup out there every

674
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Speaker 3: single day in the second half of the season. And

675
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Speaker 3: you keep Contreras. It's kind of similar to what the

676
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: Marlins did with real Muto. You know, they kept him

677
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: for that one year, but it's a different scenario because

678
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 3: realmut had a little bit more control than Contreras has.

679
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: Now you completely minimized all of his potential value in

680
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: any trade because of the only one year of control.

681
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: So I don't know what the Cubs are thinking there,

682
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: and hopefully it works out well for the for the

683
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: Marlins in this situation.

684
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Speaker 2: Trust me, I'm making a video on the Cubs talking

685
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: about their off season plans, and I spoke to Ethan

686
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: and he had no idea. What really, tell me?

687
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: I don't.

688
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: It's weird because then there's also the rumors where those

689
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: guys could come back that got trade Bryant Rizzo. I

690
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: highly doubt it, though, I mean, I think those guys

691
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: are going to stay with their perspective teams, at least

692
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: Chris Briant I think would stay with the Giants. But

693
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: I have already where he could go. I know, he's

694
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: a Miami guy, Rizard of Miami. Maybe that would be funny,

695
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: but I mean, I don't know if I think he's

696
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: a local kid as well. He's a local kid. So, yeah,

697
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: he's from.

698
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Speaker 3: Douglas, I believe.

699
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stollman Douglas.

700
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh well, I mean there's also Stallings. We could also

702
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: talk about Stallings a little bit here. Uh he's a

703
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: guy who I know we've talked about. We were raving

704
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: about this guy. Craig was for sure, you know, hooked

705
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: to this guy with the gold glove.

706
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: Uh.

707
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Speaker 2: He had the streak with the no pass balls. I mean,

708
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: can you tell us about Stallings defense, defense oriented catcher,

709
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: A fantastic you know catcher, Like you said, he had

710
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: the record of not allowing a single pass ball almost

711
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: all year. The offense is a little underwhelming, and I

712
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: think offense is what this team needs, like an incredible

713
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: So he wouldn't be a bad option just because anyone

714
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: would be an improvement over the catching tandem that they

715
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: had this year. So but I definitely think Stallings would

716
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: be an option. He'd be like the second or third option.

717
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: I think Hector Rodrig just mentioned him as that.

718
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, if Willson controvers doesn't work out and Joan

719
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Speaker 3: Gome doesn't work out, yeah, Jacob, they could pivot towards

720
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: Jacob Stallings and that would be a hell of an upgrade.

721
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw that article by Hector today. He also

722
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: mentioned Mitch Garvin Carson Kelly, which I know Carson Kelly

723
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: had in the back of my mind that the start

724
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: of the season when the trades were coming up, you know,

725
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: for possibly getting contrast, and I know I was at

726
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: Carson Kelly behind my mind. Then you have Mitch Garver Miami.

727
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: I know Twins were close to getting Alaser. Maybe you

728
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: do that. Now you say, let's get Aliaser, Miam's not

729
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: gonna get Brice and they're not gonna bring up Brycet

730
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: and Bringman. You deal him, you put him in as

731
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: a sweetener. Maybe you do Aliazer, Brigman and Connore Scott

732
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: for Mitch Garver, and if you try to get someone

733
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: else in that deal you go for.

734
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Speaker 3: I mean, what would you do in that scenario, Midge,

735
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: I Craig didn't mention Eliezer as someone that the Twins

736
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Speaker 3: had scouted a bit. And I don't think Scarver would

737
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: require a huge package or anything. Maybe they could go

738
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Speaker 3: the route of doing a package of maybe Max Kepler

739
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: and Garver to a more crazy thought Byron Buxton and

740
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: Mitch Garver. The Twins have pieces that the Marlins could use,

741
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: and the Twins need pitching which the Marlins can give.

742
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: So I think those two teams match up really well,

743
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: really nicely. And they did do a trade remember a

744
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: couple of years ago.

745
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: For lay Win and so yeah, it was the sagem

746
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: On right, So they they have made deals before with

747
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: this regime.

748
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: So it's definitely something to keep in mind.

749
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: The Marlins robbed them on that trade, Let's be honest.

750
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, because they don't really want to make

751
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: another trade after that one. But I want to talk

752
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: to you about the MLB playoffs. Would have been your thoughts,

753
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: you know? Right now? We had that crazy Saint Louis

754
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: Dodgers game which ended with a Chris Taylor home on

755
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: which there's a question about Chris Taylor and the Q

756
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: and A, so we'll talk about him for sure. So

757
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: you know what would have been your actual thoughts on

758
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I mean, they've been pretty cool.

759
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: I mean, to be honest, I haven't watched much of

760
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: the Division series yet, but I did watch both of

761
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: card games, one of them at a bar and the

762
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: other one at home. The Red Sox game, you can

763
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: talk about Phil Nevin sending Judge around third in that situation,

764
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: and it was just a great game. The Red Sox

765
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: Yankees is alwas gonna be a fantastic one, especially when

766
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: it's a one game playoff, and this situation, the Red

767
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: Sox came out on top and so Gean Carlo and

768
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: Judge and Rizzo were all going home. I think the

769
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 3: Yankees need to maybe just take a look in the

770
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 3: mirror and just say we can't just keep throwing in

771
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 3: these power bats and have no table setters at the top.

772
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: So I think they need to and also get some

773
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: more pitching because Garrett Cole, yeah, you gave him three

774
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty four million. You need to have someone

775
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: a backup planning case there's no spider attack available. And

776
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: then in the Dodgers Cardinals game, that was a hell

777
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: of a ballgame. Wow, what anear that trade Turner double

778
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: playball that ended the thread and the third and just

779
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 3: like every inning was pivotal, Juan Soto being there repping

780
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: his wrapping his old jersey, repping Tray Turner's jersey, and

781
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: just like supporting his team his ex teammates Sures are

782
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: In and Turner. That was just awesome. And boy Alex

783
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: ray Is left one and that's that's what cost the

784
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: Cardinals the season.

785
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Juan so To trying to do is

786
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: recruitment to get those guys back. I think they're both

787
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: on one year deals, but yeah, I mean going out

788
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 2: to supporting your team. I did not watch much of

789
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: the Yankees one, but I did watch the Cardinals Dodgers one.

790
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: Wayne Wright pitched a gem. I mean, let's be honest,

791
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: besides that one run he pitched the gem sure that

792
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: they should have left in a little bit more. I

793
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: don't know if you agree with that one. They should

794
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: have left them in. I know Noah was talking about

795
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 2: keeping Wayne right, but the guy was like a ninety

796
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 2: four pitches already. I mean, it didn't make much chense

797
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: to leave him in unless the guy really wanted to,

798
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: which it seems like he did because the way he

799
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: was walking off. You know, he's screaming. It was a

800
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: good game. I did not watch. Besides that great game,

801
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: Chris Taylor hit the walk off there. It was a

802
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: cool It was a cool playoff series. Now we have

803
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: Tampa and and the Red Sox in the Ale. We

804
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: also have Chicago against Houston. We who do we have

805
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 2: on l Braves versus?

806
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: Is it the Brewers Braves Brewers and it's Dodgers Giants?

807
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: Which is gonna be the best series?

808
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: Gonna be the best one? Yeah? I mean who do

809
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 2: you think wins each series? When you look at.

810
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: It, man, I think the Brewers had the chance except

811
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: their their best reliever, just as an idiot, you know,

812
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: for their term. I think smashing his hand because he

813
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: was drunk, his pitching hand no less.

814
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Devin Williams.

815
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Speaker 3: Devin Williams. I think I think they they had They

816
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: were gonna just milk those five pitchers in Woodruff, Burns, Hater,

817
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: and Williams. And I'm playing on the fifth. But no,

818
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 3: I honestly think the Braves have a chance to win

819
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 3: that series. And then in the Dodgers Giants, I would

820
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 3: like to see the Giants come out on top. There

821
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: I think went through a lot of scrutiny in his

822
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 3: one season with Philadelphia, and look what he's done now

823
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: with this team that was expected to go third in

824
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 3: the division and be under five hundred by like ten games,

825
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 3: twenty games. So I would like to see the Giants,

826
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: but it really could go either way. I haven't paid

827
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: enough attention to either team over the season to have

828
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: a a knowledgeable prediction, but I would I'd like to.

829
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Speaker 2: See the Giants, Yeah, Dodgers and Giants. I want to

830
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: see the Giants. I want to see the Brewers take

831
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: the break the Braves serious, I mean, I think we

832
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 2: both do, just because the decisions.

833
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 3: Honestly, I I you know, I don't want to see

834
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 3: Yelich and the Brewers win anything. Just like the Brewers

835
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: and the Braves, I dislike them as well, so I

836
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: that seemldear less about those.

837
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we have on the AL I kind

838
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: of want to see Tampa win, but Boston really deserves

839
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: it after this season they've had, you know, surprising pretty

840
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: much everyone in the MLP. So I want Boston to

841
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: win that one. And then we have Chicago versus Houston.

842
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: I want to see the White Sox take it. I

843
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: want to see, you know, jose Brew go to the

844
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: next level, get to the World Series hopefully, So Q

845
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: and A time, you know, I think we've all been

846
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: waiting for this. Eli. I don't know if you have

847
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: the first question ready there, but whenever it is, I mean,

848
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: we'll take a look at it and we'll answer. We

849
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: have we actually have quite quite quite some questions. Let's

850
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: get it some this fun Q and A. That's it

851
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 2: has a lot of funny questions, I would say. I

852
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: mean I saw one of them with the Sandy extension.

853
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: It was also the Chris Taylor one.

854
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: So but I think the Rays are gonna are gonna

855
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: go all the way this year. I think they're gonna raise. Yeah,

856
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: I think they're ready. Many have a chance.

857
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: Pete our good friend Pete Pratt, hopefully having him on

858
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 2: at some point in the in the pod quick spoiler

859
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: earlier there.

860
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: Who's your n l m V p Isaac my nl

861
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: m VP is is gonna be Bryce Harper. I think

862
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: Bryce Harper just had a hell of a year. I

863
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: know for most people are gonna be like, how is

864
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: it not Bernando tattoos the Braak so the Padres they

865
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: were supposed to win the World Series. They were supposed

866
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 3: to be fantastic, and yeah, he had a phenomenal year,

867
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: but you know, he didn't help bring his team to

868
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: the postseason. He missed a lot of time with some injuries.

869
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 3: And Bryce Harper, if you just look at the numbers,

870
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: he had five hundred bats, four hundred eighty to be exactly,

871
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 3: he hit three O nine, his OPS was more than

872
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: a thousand of one thy forty four an ops plus

873
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: of one seventy nine thirty five homers and he just

874
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: really just hit all year long, stayed healthy, and has

875
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: the best hair in baseball to add them to that.

876
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: So I think Bryce Harper would be my my NL MVP.

877
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 2: I was between Harper, Vado, and then I brought up Castas.

878
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: At some point, I want to go Vodo, but I'm

879
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: gonna go Bryce Harper. I think that's the obvious pick.

880
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: At this point. He really got Philly almost. He got

881
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: him right there. That's the I think that's the real

882
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: crucial part, even though at some point Vado really had

883
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: them right there as well. Castanos, all those guys really

884
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: almost made the playoffs. When you look at it, yeah,

885
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: Harper's just shown it off. All I hate to say

886
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: Harper because they're in the division and I don't like

887
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: the Phillies that much, but he deserves to winning. He's

888
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 2: had one hell of a season, so they have it. Pete,

889
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: thanks for asking the question. That's going to the next one,

890
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: which is for mar I've been pronounced the name. I'm DV.

891
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: Would you be? Would you and Isaac be okay? With

892
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: Chris Taylor being the star acquisition this offseason like Bass

893
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 2: was this last off season, Isaac can go ahead.

894
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: Yes, if he's the best one and they don't get

895
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: a Brian Reynolds and they don't get so you know what,

896
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: I I'm sorry I spoke to you seriously. I remember

897
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 3: he he really went into that wildcard game struggling mightily,

898
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: like you. I think it's ten for his last seventy

899
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 3: two if I remember correctly. But he's a hell of

900
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: a ball player who just always seems to hit and

901
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 3: hit clutch, and he can play every position on the diamond.

902
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: And if they were to somehow get him, and I

903
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: don't know, it's it's a tough question because this Wilson

904
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: Contreras would be considered a better acquisition than him. I

905
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 3: don't know. They are probably similar, you know, valued players,

906
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: they're really good.

907
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: So but if he.

908
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: Were to be one of the best, yes, if he's

909
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: if it's just Chris Taylor and then a guy like

910
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 3: Young Gohams and a guy like Brian de la Cruz

911
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: stay insider, then no, I wouldn't be okay with it.

912
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: But if he was like the best one instead of

913
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: if we were to get him instead of Ryan Reynolds,

914
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 3: for example, I'd be okay with that.

915
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of those questions where it's like,

916
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: did they get Reynolds? Did they gets for example? Did

917
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: they get because they did? This would be a great acquisition,

918
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: but it wouldn't be the star acquisition that we've been

919
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: talking about because in that case, it would be Costellanos.

920
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: You know, no offense to Controls or Reynolds, but Costianos

921
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 2: is best of the bunch there.

922
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 4: Uh.

923
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: But if it's Chris Taylor and you get a couple

924
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: of relievers, which I dropped an article on that today,

925
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: I guess it would be the star acquisition of the

926
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: off season, you know, especially with the hype video they

927
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: made for Bass the jersey, you know, the introductory press conference.

928
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: I think they did that too. Yeah, Christian was a

929
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: great player and great utility player as well. You could

930
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: play it all pretty much, you know. Unfortunately, Afara didn't

931
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: become the utility guy we all wanted him to become,

932
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 2: especially after they wanted to compare him to Chris Taylor

933
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: himself next month. I'm pretty sure they compared him too,

934
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: So you know, the Marlins really did have the balls

935
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: to do that. So I mean, hopefully Chris Taylor does

936
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 2: come to MINDI would be a good acquisition. It would

937
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: be a good bench depth for sure as well. I

938
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 2: would say if he the Marlins do acquire all these guys.

939
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, honestly, it just depends the situation to making

940
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 2: thus our acquisition. Like you're saying your next question, where

941
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: the fans expectations too high going into the season, making

942
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: this year twice as difficult to the stomach. I think

943
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: we would have the same answer on this one, and

944
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: I think that's a yes if you want to go

945
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 2: into further explanation on that one.

946
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: Isaac, Yeah, I think I think anyone that knows baseball

947
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 3: and watched the team last year knew that if again,

948
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: if the season was one hundred and sixty two and

949
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, the team would have finished under five hundred

950
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 3: more than likely. I think it was great that they

951
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 3: made the postseason, and I think a lot of fans

952
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: are just like, oh my god, we made the playoffs.

953
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: Holy jeep, like holy shit, you know, wow, We're going

954
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 3: to be in the World Series next year. And I'm like,

955
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 3: and you know, you just look at the teams around you.

956
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: The Braids were in it by a lot. The Frills

957
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 3: are only getting better. The Nationals at the time were good,

958
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: and the Mets have a billionaire owner who can just

959
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 3: get them whatever they want. So I knew it was

960
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: going to be I think most people, most knowledgeably people

961
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 3: knew that getting into the playoffs or even having a

962
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 3: five hundred record this season was going to be difficult.

963
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 3: And the Marlins did not do anything close anything near

964
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 3: close enough to you know, add enough talent. Besides Duvall

965
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 3: in bass, they didn't do much and debt Wiler, so

966
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 3: they needed to do a lot more. I think now

967
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: they realize that they have a lot of work to

968
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: do if they do want to be competitive. So yeah,

969
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: I do think the fans expectations were too high. I

970
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: think the front offices and expectations were too high. I

971
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 3: think they really expected to win, and I'm not. I

972
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: guess they're just delirious because Pakoda had them winning seventy games.

973
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: Ish Eli Sussman had them not being too good. I

974
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 3: didn't have them been too good. I don't think you

975
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: have him been too excellent either, So yeah, I think

976
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: just overall, accuctations were too high, and I think they

977
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: even they Boy did they fall below below the h expectations.

978
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I kind of had them in second place. I'm

979
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: not gonna lie. My expectations were extremely high. I had

980
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: met Marlins, Braves, Phillies nationals, but yeah, expectations were extremely high,

981
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: especially after last season. They they you know, it's just

982
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: crazy to think the Marrows really made the playoffs and

983
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: then you expected more from them. You said the unjugged

984
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: a Contra went crazy. They got this great signing in

985
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 2: Aguilar Brandon Kinsler. At the time, people thought he would

986
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: be back, which he didn't return. I would say, thankfully

987
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: so because he's not been too good with the Phillies.

988
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. Go ahead, No, I'm not saying. You know,

989
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: then you have Jazz coming in leywhen hopefully comes next season.

990
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: Expectations were pretty fucking high. I'm not even gonna lie.

991
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: And somehow the front office just you would think they

992
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: would go after these big time free agents, especially after

993
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: you see the Mets going after god damn Lindor. You

994
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: see that the Phillies. Who else did they extended real Muto?

995
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 2: You know, the Braves out here going out for really

996
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: good players. They get Ozuna back. I mean the Mets

997
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: were going crazy too. They got Carrasco as well, they

998
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: got Stroman came back on the on.

999
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: That Tae got Trevor May, Trevor May.

1000
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: And I know they got someone else too, because they

1001
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: they went crazy that free agency and it was like

1002
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: them against the Padres to see what the best free

1003
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 2: agency in Miami just goes out there and gets Adam

1004
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: Duval And then they go out there and get who

1005
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 2: else dett Wyler they got. They got Simber, Sandy, Goddamn Sandy.

1006
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: They traded right away. Hi, I don't you know for

1007
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: Adam Simber, he was pitching pretty well. He was up

1008
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 3: to a tough start in his Marlin's tenure, but he

1009
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: was pitching pretty well, and he was a valuable piece

1010
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: out of the bullpen. You know, he got out of

1011
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: some crazy, pretty sticky stuff, and they just traded him

1012
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: for Joe Panic, which I don't understand.

1013
00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, yeah, expectations were high. I think that's

1014
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: why hit us pretty hard. We expected the Monks to

1015
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: be good. I think we all did at some point.

1016
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 2: We didn't expect them maybe make the playoffs. I would

1017
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: say I expected them to be good, but not to

1018
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: make the playoffs because the only way you would make

1019
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and that division is if you win the division.

1020
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: That's what it turned into. And the Marins are not

1021
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 2: going to better than the Braverers or the Mets, not

1022
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: maybe not even the Phillies for sure, the Nationals, but

1023
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: those three other teams. No, maybe they could have been

1024
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 2: better than the Phillies for sure, because that Phillies bullpen

1025
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: is not too good. Next question, here's from the what's

1026
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 2: the first base situation? Go ahead here, Isaac.

1027
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: And that's a very complex question actually, because the Marins have,

1028
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: you know, with the new CBA, the dh is expected

1029
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 3: to be implemented in twenty twenty two. So the Marlins

1030
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: a little more you know, flexibility when it comes to

1031
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: the first base position because they have sort of three

1032
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 3: guys for that one spot. Now it's two spots, so

1033
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: I think they they're gonna keep Aguilar, And now it's

1034
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: just a bit of a sketchy situation because he's he

1035
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 3: went under knee surgery and I know, you know, he's

1036
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: never known for his you know, ability to move so

1037
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: quick anyway, but you know, knee surgery is knee surgery nonetheless,

1038
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: so you have to be careful with that. And Leywan

1039
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: die As I think, has earned himself a spot as

1040
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 3: starting for his baseman in twenty twenty two, so that

1041
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: leaves Gary Cooper as the odd man out now they

1042
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: can I personally think Gary Cooper is probably the best

1043
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 3: hitter of the bunch, which is frustrating to say, because

1044
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: he's gonna be the one that maybe is not here

1045
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: anymore and the Marlins need offense and they're gonna get

1046
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: rid of the best hitter. What they could do is

1047
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: maybe stick him in the outfield again and do that

1048
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 3: whole brujaha, which I don't think they would.

1049
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: Want to do.

1050
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't think they'd want to do that.

1051
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: And Sanchez isn't right anyway, and he looks horrible and left,

1052
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: so I think Sandez has a state right, So I'm

1053
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 3: not sure I don't know whether they keep Cooper as

1054
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 3: insurance in case Aguilar or Leywin. Laywin has just a

1055
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: good of a chance of not performing next year as well,

1056
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 3: So if I were them, I would go into unless

1057
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 3: you get like you can get a really valuable piece

1058
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 3: for Gary Cooper or Hayes's Aguilar, which you probably can't

1059
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: at this point, but if you can get something a

1060
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: value from Cooper, trade him. If not, there's no reason

1061
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 3: to trade him because it's just going to spring training

1062
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 3: with all three of them, and usually things like that

1063
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 3: work themselves out.

1064
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, just for a quick reference as well, Miami tried

1065
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: to trade Agular into trade deadline. No interust in there.

1066
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: I was kind of surprised there wasn't any interest, especially

1067
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: with how good Aguilar was at the time. You know,

1068
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 2: he he had all those homers, He was pretty consistent.

1069
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: Leading the league in RBI.

1070
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, not too him and Duval were leading the league

1071
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: in RBI. That was it was a it was a

1072
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: cool competition between them two. But at the end of

1073
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: the day, they didn't trade him. They kept him, but

1074
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: trying to extend him now, which good good for the Marlins.

1075
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: So that leaves it probably the Gere Cooper being the

1076
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: odd guy out. I know we talked, we were talking

1077
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 2: on our group chat about Domin, the guy from the

1078
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: from the Royals, is an option. I think Ethan mentioned

1079
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 2: to us Cooper for for for him is a picture, Yeah, yeah,

1080
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 2: the reliever, that that could be an option. And maybe

1081
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 2: you know you you threw and Brigman as a sweetener.

1082
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 2: But I think Cooper is the odd guy out unless

1083
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: they somehow magically try him in at second at left field,

1084
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,959
Speaker 2: which you no, it wouldn't. It's not gonna. I hope,

1085
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't happen. But I mean they put

1086
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: all far out left field. They put al far out

1087
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: left field. They would put anyone at left field at

1088
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 2: this point. So I don't know Cooper. It would sucks

1089
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: to seam go because that twenty twenty season he was great.

1090
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: In the twenty twenty season, he was He started off

1091
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: horrendously in twenty twenty one, but right before his injury

1092
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: he was he was really raking that ball. He was

1093
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: doing everything he had to defensively. He looked good. The

1094
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: only issue is the Marlins lawin Diaz, and that's a

1095
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: good issue to have really when you look at it.

1096
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 2: So I think Cooper is gonna be gone maybe by

1097
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 2: spring training. At some point during spring training, it's gonna

1098
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: come down to a three man competition. First two guys

1099
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: to get that, and then that's when you say, all right,

1100
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: let's look to trade Cooper. Because Cooper doesn't have value,

1101
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: especially in the American League. His value is gonna be

1102
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: very high. So we'll see really what happens on that end.

1103
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: I want to see Cooper for very succeed. American League

1104
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: is where he should go. I think the same for Aguilar.

1105
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: If the Marlins miraculously do trade aguilaris so we'll see

1106
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: what happens on I don't know if you have any

1107
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: last words on that.

1108
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: I think we covered it pretty well. And so those

1109
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 3: three guys, one of them's not to leave. I think

1110
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 3: they're going to prefer to keep Laywin because just the

1111
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: defense alone, I think he's second in the NL and

1112
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 3: defensive run saved and like a fraction of the innings played.

1113
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 3: So I am fine with Leywin being there. And they're

1114
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 3: going to keep Aguilar because he was just a great

1115
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 3: find from Tampa Bay, who I think non tendered him

1116
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 3: and the Martins picked him up, and I think Craig

1117
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: was pretty Uh, he was pretty skeptical on Hasys Aguilar,

1118
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 3: and Aguilar ended up being one of the best hitters

1119
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 3: in the last years the Marlins.

1120
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a couple of years ago. He was in

1121
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, I think I think it was he had

1122
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: a great season with Milwaukee. So this was a This

1123
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 2: is one of those fines where you say the Marlins

1124
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 2: made a good fine. They got a really cheap guy

1125
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: because Aguilar is not earning. I don't even think he's

1126
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: at three mil I'm pretty sure, Isaac. So my Miami's

1127
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: pay was very low, not even I don't think Sandy's

1128
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 2: even early earning one million dollars if I'm correct. So

1129
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 2: just a little reference there. What do you guys like

1130
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 2: to do for fun when not at Loane Deepo Park? Also,

1131
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 2: what did the odds of starling Marty reunion? Isaac?

1132
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 3: Uh?

1133
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 2: The group chat knows exactly what you do when you're

1134
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 2: not in Loan Deepo Park. We'll let you share it off.

1135
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: I don't Deep Park, so I get, you know, like

1136
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: Kevin and I think we like to, you know, hang

1137
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 3: out with our friends, maybe go out sometimes watch other sports.

1138
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 3: You know, the MLB Playoffs are on, so when we're

1139
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: not covering baseball games for a living where we're watching

1140
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 3: it on the television, and uh, it's about it. We

1141
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 3: like to play I personally, I like to play basketball

1142
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: once in a while and go to the club maybe,

1143
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 3: but that's that's about it. And to answer sorry Marty

1144
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: reunion question, I don't I don't see it as too

1145
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 3: likely just because they could have offered him, Craig said it.

1146
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: It's not that he didn't want to, is that the

1147
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: Mardels didn't offer enough, and the Marls knew exactly what

1148
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 3: they had to do to reach that number that he wanted.

1149
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: They didn't do it, and the numbers only to get

1150
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 3: higher in free agency, except they're going to have they're

1151
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 3: enough to compete with all these whales of franchises that

1152
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 3: can offer a hell of a lot more So, I

1153
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: don't see it as likely for center field. The trade

1154
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 3: is more likely. And you know, we just want to

1155
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 3: thank Starlink for his contribution because seeing him up close

1156
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 3: every single day for the last you know, year and

1157
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 3: a half year, it's been a treat. Because that guy,

1158
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 3: you know, with Pittsburgh, we're seeing him from afar. We

1159
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 3: knew he was good. He is just a phenomenal talent, honestly,

1160
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: and whatever team gets him is gonna be really lucky.

1161
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 2: What do I do outside of Lone DEEPO Park? Well,

1162
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: I was only there three times this year, so I

1163
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: guess you could see school band. Besides that, I love basketball,

1164
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: so I go to I want. I go to a

1165
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 2: lot of heat games. You know, I do my traveling

1166
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 2: as well, So outside of One Deeper Park, I don't

1167
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 2: do too much. But you know, if you follow Isaac

1168
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: on Instagram, you know exactly where he's at, you know,

1169
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 2: every couple of days, a couple days a week. And

1170
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 2: Starlane Marte They're gonna do their due diligence. They're gonna

1171
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: offer him a contract obviously probably gonna decline it. I

1172
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: think if they offer him the fourth year, which we

1173
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: know that is one of the biggest things, maybe he

1174
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: takes it that four year forty email. Maybe maybe he doesn't,

1175
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: but I doubt he's gonna come back. Marlins are obviously

1176
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: going to say, hey, you know you want to come back,

1177
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 2: here's a contract, you know, take it or leave it.

1178
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 2: He says, I don't want this, all right, we tried.

1179
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 2: You know, they'll go after a bigger fish like Castellanos

1180
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: you want to go for also a younger guy like

1181
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 2: Brian Reynolds. And then you have Hayes su Sanchez. You

1182
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: also have Peyton Burdick in the minor leagues. You have

1183
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: JJ Bledey who probably won't come up next year, maybe

1184
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 2: at September callups. But I think that's all the questions

1185
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: we had. I know we had one more there, Eli,

1186
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: which was the Sandy one. I wanted to share. This

1187
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: is pretty funny. If you have it there, you know

1188
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 2: you could put it up because this is pretty funny.

1189
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 2: It was right here. Any of you want to buy

1190
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: some world's finest chocolate bars building a Fundridgard to pay

1191
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: for Sad the unconscious extension. That's actually pretty funny. And

1192
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: I think we'll end it right there on that note,

1193
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: you know, fifty three minutes recording. I mean, what else

1194
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: is there really to say, Isaac? I mean, it was

1195
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: baseball season's over. We do have a lot coming up.

1196
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: We're hoping to have guests on for the next one.

1197
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know if you have any last words.

1198
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 3: No, just you know, watch THEMB playoffs. Watch you know,

1199
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 3: the type of teams and the type of talent and

1200
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 3: the layers of talent that these teams have and just say, Okay,

1201
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 3: that's what the marlinsy to have, and unfortunately they're they're

1202
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 3: far Look at the race. They're starting three rookies in

1203
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 3: the in the American League Division Series, three rookies. So

1204
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 3: I think that's just like they really need to take

1205
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 3: a page out of their book and and just you know,

1206
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 3: try and be like them as much as possible. Like

1207
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 3: it teems like the White Sox, like at teams, you know,

1208
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 3: like the Cardinals. These are teams that have more money

1209
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 3: than the Marlins, but they don't necessarily go and buy

1210
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 3: players like that. So just you know, watch the playoffs

1211
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 3: enjoy them, because playoff atmosphere is back. I know in

1212
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 3: twenty twenty it wasn't exactly the same. So we had

1213
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: full at full strength again this year. And hopefully the

1214
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 3: Marls will be there next year and we'll be back

1215
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 3: here in two weeks. Maybe La Marls will have a

1216
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 3: move done regarding coaching staffs. We're regarding the coaching staff

1217
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 3: and we'll see what happens.

1218
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know about the athletic staff, which some of

1219
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 2: them aren't coming back, So I mean there's not much

1220
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: to really just say on that it's just wait until

1221
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: who they hire. Pretty much this whole month is going

1222
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: to be coaching staff talk. I would say, you know,

1223
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: hopefully Mel comes back, Hopefully Duncan doesn't come back. It

1224
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: was a bad coaching staff this season. Besides Melon, Donnie,

1225
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: I know, I do for sure the next one we're

1226
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: gonna bring up Donnie for sure. I want to talk

1227
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 2: to you about Donnie. We actually have a lot of

1228
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 2: there's still stuff to talk about, you know, free agency,

1229
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 2: the Marlins, MLB, and I don't know. So we'll be

1230
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: giving that to you guys on a bi weekly basis,

1231
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 2: So in two weeks we'll be seeing you guys again.

1232
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:10,040
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1233
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,719
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1234
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,320
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1235
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: in the the website where you could listen to us.

1236
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, my name is Kevin isaac Eli on the

1237
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: production side. We'll see you guys on peace out, guys,