WEBVTT - Ice Cube

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Welcome to another edition of Club Shah, and my

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<v Speaker 1>guest today is father, husband, actor, activists, rapper, the Og,

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<v Speaker 1>Mister ice Cube himself. All my life, running all my life, sacrifice,

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<v Speaker 1>hustle back, Chris one a slice, got the bron dice

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<v Speaker 1>swathing all my life. I've been running all my life,

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<v Speaker 1>all my life, the running, all my life, sacrifice, hustle back,

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<v Speaker 1>Price one slice got the dice swathing all my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been running all my life. Cue. How are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing today? Yeah? What's suddenly? Man? How you feeling shading?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, bro? I mean, are you getting ready for

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<v Speaker 1>doing Remaker? Tom Hayes The Black cast Away? What's going on? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you know I had to let it grow. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that's that's that wisdom coming through then. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, that's that wisdom coming this wisdom

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<v Speaker 1>coming through the chin right here. Bro, I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>if you give me a few moments of your time today.

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate it. I know you're very busy, but

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<v Speaker 1>to give me a few minute minutes of your time today,

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate it. Now. I appreciate you doing it, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I love you know what you're doing TV.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, to meet you one of the best personalities

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<v Speaker 1>on TV talking sports and just human. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just get down, you know what I mean, just just

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<v Speaker 1>telling it like a t I is and I love

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<v Speaker 1>you on TV. So man, I'm glad you got this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you can keep it going. Thank y'all really appreciate it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start you we'll get back to where the origins.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's start with the basically the hot thing of

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on today, and that was the murder of

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<v Speaker 1>George Floyd and what's the tensions and the uprising the

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<v Speaker 1>emotions that we're starting to see spill out in the

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<v Speaker 1>black communities. And a lot of people I think don't

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<v Speaker 1>realize where you got your start from. You were in

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<v Speaker 1>a group called NWA, and so I think people are

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<v Speaker 1>a little surprised shock because they think you had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>away from that. Talk about your emotions and why you've

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<v Speaker 1>been so active the resurgence of the IQ of the

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<v Speaker 1>original o G. Well, you know, with my music, I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about and I've always talked about, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>things that's happening in our communities. You know, I call

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<v Speaker 1>it street knowledge, and uh, I've always been kicking that

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<v Speaker 1>from day one. But in my movies, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like when somebody spends you know, maybe a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars when it comes to them, they want and getting

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<v Speaker 1>something to eat, parking driving, it might want to have

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<v Speaker 1>a good time, and it might not be about just

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<v Speaker 1>the struggles of being black in America. Some of my

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<v Speaker 1>movies are usually fun, but I've always had a passion

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<v Speaker 1>for our condition in this country and what needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be done and to do it from you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>bandage point, you know, which is art. But when this happened,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like it was time for me to step

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<v Speaker 1>up as a OG. You know, I felt like it's

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<v Speaker 1>my generation's turn to take the man on when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to not just civil rights, but human rights, just

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<v Speaker 1>human dignity, economical, uh, you know, freedom. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard time to step up. So I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>step out outside of music in movies and just speak

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a man, as a father, you know

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<v Speaker 1>now grandfather, and I just you know, can't see this

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<v Speaker 1>perpetuate and keep going on another you know whatever years.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think that George Floyd murder hit her

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<v Speaker 1>so different? Because they're with Eric Gardner. There was Philando Castile.

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<v Speaker 1>There was Alton Sterling, there was Walter Scott, there was

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra Bland. There was Tamerror Rights. There was Treyvard Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>There've been so many. Why did this resonate so much,

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<v Speaker 1>not only in the black community, but seemed to grip America? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we as a people never accepted slavery, correct,

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<v Speaker 1>We never went for that. You know, I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>what they tell you. That was never cool with us,

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<v Speaker 1>and we wasn't never down with it. We tolerated it,

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<v Speaker 1>we lived under it, but we didn't accept it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to, you know, to survive. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>when one one of us would get out of hand,

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<v Speaker 1>they would pull everybody around to watch the discipline take place.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've seen that in movies countless of times. This

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<v Speaker 1>was a replay of that, seeing this man uh begging

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<v Speaker 1>for his life, even to his mama, and so to

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<v Speaker 1>have a man on top of him with his hand

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<v Speaker 1>in his pocket, looking right at the camera. Let us

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<v Speaker 1>all know that our life means nothing, and that's unacceptable

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty. It was unacceptable back then, but we

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't do nothing about it. Now we can do something

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<v Speaker 1>about it and we're not going for it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I always said the country has got to change, or

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<v Speaker 1>we will change it. And that's what's happening right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in the process of changing it, and it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know, that's why now is the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it so hard for those outside of our

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<v Speaker 1>communities to hear our cries to see us as human

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<v Speaker 1>not less? Then why is it so hard for people

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<v Speaker 1>to accept that there's something raw in America and we

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<v Speaker 1>won't change it. Why is it so hard for them

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<v Speaker 1>to see that? Well, I mean, it's not happening to them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, usually people are really concerned about their own situation,

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<v Speaker 1>their own family. It's not easy for the average wide

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<v Speaker 1>American today. So he maybe feels or she maybe feels like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is part of it, you know, this is part

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<v Speaker 1>of the struggle of pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they realize we've never even had a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of boots to pull ourselves up by, so speak as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a community, and even when we tried to prosper,

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<v Speaker 1>it was stumped out in uh, you know, different places

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<v Speaker 1>across the country like Tulsa and you know, and other

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<v Speaker 1>wood roads, wood other communities that we know about and

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<v Speaker 1>hear about, and the ones that we haven't heard about.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, our progress and side avertaged in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ways. It's a systematically fixed where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why they're so surprised when one of us get

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<v Speaker 1>through and get ahead and and don't count me and

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<v Speaker 1>you we we we go through the path that's at

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<v Speaker 1>least resistance, which is entertainment in sports, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta look at you know, how many people you

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<v Speaker 1>know are not Ice Cube and Shannon Sharp and how

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<v Speaker 1>can they get through? So, you know, just to end that,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's people that just look at their

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<v Speaker 1>own situations and if it's not happening to them, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard for them to understand. But as you mentioned, is

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<v Speaker 1>that when when people look at you and I and

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<v Speaker 1>they think that all black people, well Cube you made it,

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon Sharp, you made it, Oprah, and you got Lebron,

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<v Speaker 1>you got Denzil. But we're the only race for people

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<v Speaker 1>that if you can succeed and they say, well you

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<v Speaker 1>did it everybody else. But that's not how White America

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<v Speaker 1>views it. White America doesn't look at and say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Bezo has one hundred and eighty three billion, so

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else is good. They say it's not. We need

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<v Speaker 1>to get everybody up to get economic prosperity. You look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Asian community, you look at the Jewish community.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody is about pulling everybody else up. But in the

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<v Speaker 1>Black community, say well, if you feel you get out,

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<v Speaker 1>you good. Yeah, that's that's just not true. And even

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<v Speaker 1>we've had help. You know, I couldn't have made it

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<v Speaker 1>without at the time of Record Company just distributing the

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<v Speaker 1>record and putting it out. You know, Easy had the label,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had to go through Makola as a distributor.

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<v Speaker 1>So you had to you know, play on the broncos. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and that don't make you a bad guy, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens to you know, to do your thing, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So, but you but those organizations were

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<v Speaker 1>still in place. So that's a form of health and

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<v Speaker 1>our community. Of these we got businesses that if they

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<v Speaker 1>could get a loan, if they can get some just

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<v Speaker 1>a little capital, a little help, they can grow that

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<v Speaker 1>business and hire more people and expand and and and

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<v Speaker 1>and have different franchises. And but when we can't get

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<v Speaker 1>that initial spot of capital to help us jump start

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<v Speaker 1>even a home loan. You know, we're shut out. We

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<v Speaker 1>only get three percent of all the money in the

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<v Speaker 1>bank loaned out to black people in their businesses. Now

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven percent go to other communities. Now we're thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>point five percent of the country. If they just bump

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<v Speaker 1>that to thirteen point point five percent, loan out and

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<v Speaker 1>you know where guys can borrow, not not unqualified guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about prime lending. No, we we'd all it

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<v Speaker 1>help us catch up, because the gap is what's killing

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<v Speaker 1>us right now. Every for every dollar a white person

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<v Speaker 1>is worth, a black person is worth ten percent, and

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<v Speaker 1>that just can't stand right now. We can't survive off

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<v Speaker 1>off of that wealth gap. And it's not getting smaller.

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<v Speaker 1>It's grown, it's growing. And the thing is is that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look, I'm not saying, and I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>echoing is saying the same thing I'm saying. I'm not saying,

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<v Speaker 1>helped me because I'm black, But please don't deny me

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm black, thank you. I mean, just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three trillion dollars was given to two companies, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean six hundred dollars was given to some Americans,

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<v Speaker 1>but for the most part, they built out all these

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<v Speaker 1>different companies and uh and these different you know, billionaires.

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<v Speaker 1>But how many black companies were built out with that

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<v Speaker 1>three trillion dollars? With thirteen point five percent of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>We should at least got thirteen point five percent of

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<v Speaker 1>that three trillion dollars to help our companies. Forty two

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<v Speaker 1>percent of black companies went under during this COVID situation.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's a shame when they're helping companies. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's been built out over and over and over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again with the American people money, and thirteen point

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<v Speaker 1>five send me that money's ours. So uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course the numbers shift here and there, but you

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<v Speaker 1>get my drift, You get my point. You have something

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<v Speaker 1>a contract with America. You said you want to address

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<v Speaker 1>racial economic inequality. So in your contract, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>how does America make it right with black America? Man,

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of simple things they could do, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just take government contracts. If we got thirteen percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the government contracts out there, that would give our communities

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<v Speaker 1>a big boots. Like I said, with lending, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lending money, you know other things that we need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, we need to reform policing, but also the

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<v Speaker 1>justice system and the prison system. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't reform all three, what it happened is you reform

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<v Speaker 1>the police and then you know, if you do get arrested,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a bad DA or you know prosecutor that

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<v Speaker 1>don't give up the evidence and give up all the

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<v Speaker 1>the the discovery and do all these games. Now they

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<v Speaker 1>don't railroaded to the prison. Prison got their own games

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<v Speaker 1>where if they're not feel to the top, the prison

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay money, so they're gonna make sure they

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<v Speaker 1>feel to the top with guilty and innocent people. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a thing where this is a business ran on

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<v Speaker 1>off off you know, our pain, not just black people,

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<v Speaker 1>but brown people. It's off our hand read people off

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<v Speaker 1>our pain, and these systems, you know, continue to thrive

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<v Speaker 1>and grow and people get big money off them. So

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<v Speaker 1>all these things got to be reformed. If we're treated fair,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to defund the police. If you just

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<v Speaker 1>get good guys and make the bad guys accountable and

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<v Speaker 1>get them off the force, then we would love the

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<v Speaker 1>police like any other community. But when you keep the

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<v Speaker 1>bad guys and they come abuse us and beat our

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<v Speaker 1>head in. Of course we don't want them then, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing if you mentioned bank and finance reform,

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<v Speaker 1>is that we play a higher lending. We play a

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<v Speaker 1>higher rate on the loan, but we're quicker to get

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<v Speaker 1>floor clothed on all that. You know, every game in

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<v Speaker 1>the book is played off us. We pay more, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we pay more in taxes, property taxes for the police,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they the ones beat our head in. So

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<v Speaker 1>all these little games that's being played on our backs,

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<v Speaker 1>that's relegated us to the bottom of this economic pyramid.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to sniff them out and cut him out

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<v Speaker 1>and and things would flow and you won't see so

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<v Speaker 1>much frustration. You know, people with that cold pay their

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<v Speaker 1>bills and do their thing and and you know know

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<v Speaker 1>where their next meal coming from. Don't think about going

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<v Speaker 1>out in the street looting. So cute that seems to be.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to me doctor King said, riots is the

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<v Speaker 1>language of the unheard, And it seems it seems to

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<v Speaker 1>me that black people say the only time you hear

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<v Speaker 1>is is that when we burning stuff down where we're

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<v Speaker 1>blessing out of windows. We were crying for four hundred years,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems to be when you get the sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five or watts right, or you get ninety two, or

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<v Speaker 1>you get the Ferguson, or you get Baltimore, or you

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<v Speaker 1>got the uh what we just had George Floyd, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to be the only time that you hear us.

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't you hear us before we burn down stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't you hear us before we look and steal stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Why does it take that to get your attention? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's a good point. I mean, these things that's

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<v Speaker 1>in the Contract with Black America, they're not new concepts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like we came up with something that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people haven't talked about and studied. People a lot smarter

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<v Speaker 1>than us have put their whole life around some of

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<v Speaker 1>these issues. And so it's the political will. It's it's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people knowing what they need to do, but

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to rock their own boat, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>we have to force people to have the political will.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's really all these people are scared to not

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<v Speaker 1>get reelected. So if we if we harness that energy

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<v Speaker 1>and harnessing our vote and sniffing out people who don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to help us, that's in high places, that's been there,

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<v Speaker 1>and get them out of there and replace them with

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<v Speaker 1>people that's better. Well, you know, we'll continue to run

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<v Speaker 1>into this problem. We have to use our real power

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<v Speaker 1>and you know it's silent, but it's deadly because you

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<v Speaker 1>get somebody out of there and they know you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get them out of there, You're not gonna vote unless

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<v Speaker 1>if they unless they support your platform and your agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>Then that's that's really real power come from. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>real change in this country come from. The looting, riding

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<v Speaker 1>and all that will only get you so far. Correct

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, we got to change policy, legislation,

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<v Speaker 1>hearts and minds, you know, and that's that's that's when

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when it's all said and done, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that really, you know, gets people out of

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<v Speaker 1>this pain. The one thing that we know about power

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<v Speaker 1>Cube is that people in power want to stay in power,

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<v Speaker 1>and power Caun sees nothing without demand. Nobody said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I've been in power long enough. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go. You know what, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be fair about this, You have to demand it and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to take actions. Yes, that's why, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Contract with Black America was a necessary foundation of

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<v Speaker 1>taking action, of acting for things that we need, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole. You know, I don't hit everything. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a section that I believe that we need to

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<v Speaker 1>do on Black women when it comes to the Contract

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<v Speaker 1>with Black America that need to highlight the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, our women are going through, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the workplace and in America period. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's room for improvement, and I want suggestions.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not a legislator, so I really want

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<v Speaker 1>the people whose job it is to do this to

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<v Speaker 1>grab this thing and run with it. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to you know, first of all, spread the word.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure everybody going to uh c WB A dot world.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we got a four page version of a contract.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a twenty three page longer version of the contract.

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<v Speaker 1>Make yourself familiar with either version and push forward, because

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<v Speaker 1>this is what we can do to to make these

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<v Speaker 1>candidates that's running in November do something and not just

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<v Speaker 1>hold them take our both for granted, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>leave us. You know, have you ever walk in in

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<v Speaker 1>the club with some people and they supposed to get

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<v Speaker 1>you in, they forget to look back. Yeah, they get

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<v Speaker 1>in themselves, but they leave you standing. Yeah, they get

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<v Speaker 1>to look back and uh they I thought you was

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<v Speaker 1>right behind me. And that's how they've been doing us.

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<v Speaker 1>We get them in office and you know, they get

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<v Speaker 1>in and get to look back sometimes. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make sure we grab them out on them and say

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<v Speaker 1>hey man, we with you. We're going in with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, we need you to do the things we

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<v Speaker 1>need done them cut. Why is it is that when

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<v Speaker 1>we say we want this, why does why they're like

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<v Speaker 1>the black community says, Okay, we want our we want

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<v Speaker 1>our voices heard, we want our voting rights. We won't.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't economic equal, we want economic equality, we want

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<v Speaker 1>us racial and social justice. Why does it if we

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<v Speaker 1>feel if a certain demographics feels like if we get

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<v Speaker 1>those things, we take something from from you. It's all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not taking. It's not like we get you give.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that it's supposed to be. Well. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when you got people who've been taking advantage, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to they want to keep getting their extra you know,

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<v Speaker 1>decimals and dividends and whatever. They you know, really like

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<v Speaker 1>get off on you know, not help people. But let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you this, money don't trickle down, No, it

0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:24.959
<v Speaker 1>doesn't trickle up. The trickle up I mean everybody at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the pyramid. When I say the bottom,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the bottom of the economic pyramid. If you

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<v Speaker 1>gave them money today, they would go buy something right

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<v Speaker 1>from somebody rich, right who has it. So the money

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<v Speaker 1>trickles up, it don't. It might not ever trickle down

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom, but it will trickle up to the top.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't understand why it's so hard to understand

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<v Speaker 1>that if they supply our community with the capital that

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<v Speaker 1>it's that that old just a fair share of the

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<v Speaker 1>money we put into the kiddy, then the money was

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<v Speaker 1>still making its way up to the Bezos and the

0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.080
<v Speaker 1>these and the day you know, it would still make

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<v Speaker 1>it up to them. It just might take a little longer,

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<v Speaker 1>and it might make people a little happier. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with that. There's a reason why Jeff Bezos

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't begrudge him. I happened. I've made him annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason why he made seventy seven billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in five months because the stimulus money that you were

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<v Speaker 1>getting you needed things. You needed cleaning supplies, you needed things.

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<v Speaker 1>So that twelve hundred bucks that they were sending you,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what. As soon as you got it, guess what

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<v Speaker 1>you had to do. You had to go buy something,

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<v Speaker 1>You had to go grocery shopping, you had to buy products.

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<v Speaker 1>So guess what. The money that you got it went

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<v Speaker 1>right back to him, Thank you, And but you still

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<v Speaker 1>got your product that you needed to sustain your family.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't mind that, you know. If but if

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<v Speaker 1>you never see nothing at the bottom and he just

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<v Speaker 1>making seventy eight billion at the top, and you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>gotten what you need and you what your family needs,

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<v Speaker 1>you're pretty upset that somebody can get all that and

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<v Speaker 1>you have nothing. In a place like America, it just

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't happen this way. As you mentioned to you, people

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom don't have what they call disposable income

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<v Speaker 1>where you can invest. When people say the economy is good,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good for people that can invest in the economy.

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<v Speaker 1>If I don't have any money in stocks and bonds,

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<v Speaker 1>what DoD is the economy roaring? Does me? I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make is is me? I gotta pay rent, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta put food on the table, if I got a

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<v Speaker 1>car payment, if I got if I got to catch

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<v Speaker 1>the bus. So how does the economy benefit me if

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<v Speaker 1>I can't if I can't read the benefits from it. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a thing where you know, some people

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<v Speaker 1>are are at the bottom and they're not gonna starve.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna go hungry, No, let go provive. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna survive. And hopefully they don't survive off somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>has investment in something or has you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>these you have to help. You know what I call

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<v Speaker 1>our you know, weakest link. You know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the weakest link in our chain is our people in

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<v Speaker 1>poverty because they are hurting and frustrated and they can't

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<v Speaker 1>get the basic things they need to thriving this society.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's plenty to go around, but the greed that's

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<v Speaker 1>going on is keeping people from thriving in this society.

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<v Speaker 1>And it causes riots, it causes fresh stations because it's looting,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's things like that. And you know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>call the black community all kinds of names for the

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 1>things that they have to do to survive, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you would do the same thing if you were in

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<v Speaker 1>our shoes or the same thing. Q. There have been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the monuments have been coming down Stonewall Jackson, Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>if you leave, they're taken down, the Confederate flag. What's

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<v Speaker 1>your thought on those? Do they go far enough? I say, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>symbolic gestures are fine, but tell me get down to

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<v Speaker 1>the meat, get down to the nitty gritty. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to do to help the minority community these times?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about I don't care now about no statue.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care no about no flag. Yeah that's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>take it down. But I'm saying, at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, if you take that flag down, if you

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<v Speaker 1>take those monuments down, and blacks are in the same position,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you done? You know, I think every gesture

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<v Speaker 1>in this situation count you know, would take the small

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<v Speaker 1>victories and the big ones. I don't think you should

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<v Speaker 1>promote traders of of you know what this country is

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<v Speaker 1>and what has grown to be. You know, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any you know, German soldiers or you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any that I know of, no Japanese soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>from World War Two who fought against us around Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong and you know, so, I don't understand the

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<v Speaker 1>necessity for those you know, so I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>see him go. You know, do I have to see

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<v Speaker 1>him go. I'm not worried about it. I really would like,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, see some real uh systemic change that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>really help people, you know, live a better life. You know,

0:25:56.600 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>that's the most important thing. Feeling good for a moment

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>or you know that, don't do anything. It's really about

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<v Speaker 1>what can we do generational because the situation that we're

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 1>going through, the wealth gap, is a generational thing, correct,

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>So we have to start to build generational wealth, correct

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:25.440
<v Speaker 1>through ownership, homeownership, a business, ownership, being able to pass

0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:31.160
<v Speaker 1>some land, correct, being able to pass things down. That

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>is the true Promised land. But if you notice, you

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<v Speaker 1>they only remove these statues. They only retake down a

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Confederate flag after tragedy. If you look at the Confederate

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<v Speaker 1>flag coming down in South Carolina, what did it take

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<v Speaker 1>Dealing Ruth to go into the church and kill nine

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:55.440
<v Speaker 1>parishoners at Mother Emanuel. It took George Floyd. It takes

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 1>things you're not doing that out of the kindness of

0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 1>your heart. See that's the main Yeah, and see What

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<v Speaker 1>they're hoping is that if we do this just a

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 1>little bit and then they'll get distracted and they'll start

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>talking about something else. They'll think about a car, or

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 1>a bag or a band, and they'll forget all about it. Yeah.

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's the whole that's been the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's to calm them down, hear them out right, give

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<v Speaker 1>them nothing, you know, that's the that's been the playbook.

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 1>You know. I know, you know you make a living

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>covering sports. But me, I didn't want sports to come back,

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, to me, you know, I want us to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with this issue on a why basis. I understand

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>it's the need, it's and necessity, but I really wanted

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:52.400
<v Speaker 1>people to shut it down because until there's some kind

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>of economic threat, they'll continue to do the same play,

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>which is commers down here south and give us little

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:13.119
<v Speaker 1>or nothing. So until we figure out economically to shut

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.920
<v Speaker 1>systems down that don't want to cooperate, it will continue

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:20.479
<v Speaker 1>to happen because nobody's doing anything out of the kindness

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 1>of their heart. It's all will, political will, or you know,

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the will of the almighty dollar. Right, So you you

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 1>don't believe that like the guys that are in the bubble,

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>the basketball players and they wearing the Black Lives Matter

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>T shirt and they say say her name to keep

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<v Speaker 1>mentioning Brianna Taylor the w NBA. Do you believe that's

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<v Speaker 1>had an impact? Do you when they kneel for the

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<v Speaker 1>national anthem, do you believe that like some obviously there

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of people in the black community understands

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 1>why they're kneeling, why they're wearing the T shirts. But

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 1>do you believe that that some of that is trickled

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>into the white community and they're asking themselves, we really

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>have a problem here in America that we really need

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to deal with that we hadn't adequately dealt with before. Well,

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's it's it's working on a lot

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of levels. Yeah, it is bringing a lot of awareness.

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a double edged sword, uh, in a

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of ways, because it is you know, keeping people

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>looking and seeing it visually, you know, in their face.

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's also you know, kind

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>of getting back to normal. And you know, back to

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 1>normal is a bad word to me because I don't

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>want to go back to before George Floyd right now,

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't I'm not trying to go back there, you know,

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I just want to go forward. I want to go

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>to the future, and back to normal ain't the future.

0:29:53.680 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I just don't gig back to normal

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>feel of it. But it is, you know, creating more awareness.

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>And you know, we get frustrated because things don't happen

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>as fast as we want them to. But I'm feeling

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people understand the need to change

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>that didn't even want to hear it, hear us out

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>before George Floyd. They do now understand that it's a

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>need for change because this protest went all over the

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>world and it's still going. It's still going, and it's

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>still growing and up in places where they thought it

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>was settled down. So you know, they know any little

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>thing can have people back in the streets and have

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>us back in square one, so to speak. But they

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 1>had four hundred years to try to figure this out.

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>But see, here's the thing. The problem, a lot of

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>problems that I have is this is that they always

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 1>will what do you want us to do? You never

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>you never asked the victim, well to tell the perpetrator,

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Now this is what what could I have done? To

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 1>so make sure you don't harm me. What you could

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I have done to make sure you don't victimize me.

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>But that's what they ask us, Shannon, What do you

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>want us to do? You put us in this situation.

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Go back, go back to sixteen nineteen, when you brought

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 1>us here, robbed the fuzz our humanity, robbed us of

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>our dignity, robbed us of our name, robbed the fuzz

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>our religion, of our of our language, treated us less than,

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>told us we were less than, gave us nothing. Let's

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>go back. Let's start with that treat us. You say,

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>all men to created equal. You you hanged on the Bible,

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you say, oh the Bible, say love that neighbor as

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>that self. You you, you, you, you do do all

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. But then when it comes to a black man,

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>you treat it less than it. And you've always treated

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 1>them left dand but now you want me to tell

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 1>you how what you can do to make it right? Yeah,

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's part of what I call a stall game.

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, It's like keep stalling, keep figuring out a

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>way to perpetuate the same thing. You know, keep the

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>status quo or whatever you give them, take it back systematically,

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the years to come, right, So there's

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>always been a trick, there's always been of you know

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>something where they could really pull back on anything they

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>give because it's people who want to perpetuate this system,

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a system of white supremacy that you know has have

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>them feeling superior. And you know, people give you a

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of things, but it's hard to people to give

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>you power. And that's what they have to give up

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of power because we're not power hungry people,

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're we're not people who just want to

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>run everything. And now we see we're people who don't

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>mind enjoying sometimes when other people run it as long

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>as we get what we need. And so I don't

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>know if that's a worry, but you know, exploiting us

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>is lucrative, and so a lot of people want to

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 1>keep those systems in place because it's lucrative. Because here's

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the thing. Let's just say for the next four hundred years,

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>black people rolls the power and did to white America

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>what they did to black and other minorities, the Native

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>American communities. They're like, oh, they couldn't stomach it. You know,

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 1>it would never happen because it's not in our nature. No, no,

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>people like that, that's not how we're very forgiving people. Yeah,

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:11.760
<v Speaker 1>it would never happen. So that's something that we couldn't

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>We couldn't conjure up something like that to uh, to

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:21.800
<v Speaker 1>do people like that. So that that's a worry that

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:24.919
<v Speaker 1>that they can just forget. They can sleep good at

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 1>because if you look at the situation where the female

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>police officer I think it was dollars and she goes

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>into the gentleman's house, both of them john, and she

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>kills it. And the brother at the trial walks over

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.399
<v Speaker 1>and hugs her, says, I forgive you. Do you leave?

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 1>If the shoe was on the other foot, that would

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>have happened to you. You never know, man, You know

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>some people they break free of all this, you know this,

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 1>these chains of racism, So you never know. But I

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>know we are very giving people, and you know, we

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>just want to do something to be ce. Do I

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 1>have to forgive you to borrow? Can it take like

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 1>six months? Can it take a year? Me? You know,

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>somebody kill my people. I don't know if I'm gonna

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 1>forget it. But it's some forgiving people out here. It is.

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, you know, when it comes to

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>us as a people, if you give us our fair share,

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>we're extremely loyal and you know some of us won't

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 1>lead a job were standing in fifty years if you

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>keep us exactly. And so that's just the kind of

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>people we are. You treat us right, we're very loyal,

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>and you treat us wrong with a problem. So I

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>don't understand why they haven't figured this out. Before we

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 1>move on, you mentioned police reform. The police unions are

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 1>very very powerful to you. It's the problem death and that.

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.240
<v Speaker 1>But these police unions are gonna be hard to break,

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>and I believe that is the prous of your problem. Yes,

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean I love unions until they abuse the system too.

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, people union up so they can you know,

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>make sure they're being treated fair by the company or

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>an employer or whatever. But when they get the numbers,

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 1>if they start doing the same thing, or if they

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>start taking advantage because they got the numbers and you

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 1>can't fire nobody and these type of things, uh, it

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>just defeats the purpose, and you know, they become the problem.

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>And so police unions, you know, you play with a guy,

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>did you play with Bill romomous I did play Romo

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.879
<v Speaker 1>Romo when he was on your team. You probably loved them.

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. We we had issues because I think, and

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you know the thing is, I would talk, I said,

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and I was I was like Romo, a lot of

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the things you do are unnecessary. But it wasn't until

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 1>the incident with J. J. Stope, which was the breaking

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.799
<v Speaker 1>point for me. And although he did not do it

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>to me, he did it to a man that looked

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>like me, and I think, so we had a conversation

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 1>even if we had a team meeting to you, we

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>had a team meeting to god boy, that thing with Fraction.

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I had to have a twenty thirty minute combo with

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Romo outside of the team meeting because I was so

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 1>upset being Maybe it just hit me differently. I think

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 1>being from the South and having a man spitting your face,

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>especially a white man, it does something different to you.

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>It does something that that crossed the line. That crossing

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the line. Let's go up to the games before that incident.

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 1>You know he would be when he played with you.

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 1>You know he got on the same helmet you got on.

0:37:56.080 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>You could tolerated a little, yes, okay, and on the

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 1>other team, you're doing it. It was like I was

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>doing an official with Robo was holding or grabbing someone's

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 1>faith mask. He on my team. It wasn't like I've

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.760
<v Speaker 1>let in to the official. He's holding it, he's grabbed

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:15.800
<v Speaker 1>his faith mask. So so it was just one incident

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>where you had to you had you couldn't let that

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 1>go because it was being football. Correct. Now, So I see,

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>you know the police, they're taught to win all the

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 1>civil rights stuff and I know my Constitution all that.

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>They want to go home at night, right, that's the

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 1>that's winning the game, right, So if they got a

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 1>couple of Roman nooskies, that's gonna help them go home

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>at night, they'll tolerate that, right. But when you know,

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you know Bills. I don't want to drag his name,

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just saying, when you got a guy his

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 1>plan a little outside the lines, you'll tolerate them when

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.879
<v Speaker 1>they on your team, and you won't tolerate them when

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>they and not on your team. So what I'm saying

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>is sometime that mentality goes into the force and they

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:09.439
<v Speaker 1>see a guy doing a little somebody, Hey, this guy

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 1>helping me make it home, and not after that, not

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.839
<v Speaker 1>to cut you off. After that conversation, Romo and I

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 1>had a better understanding, and he knew and like I said,

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:23.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to I don't know what's in his heart,

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 1>but I think our relationship changed after he saw how

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:32.240
<v Speaker 1>upset I was about that incident and and the things

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:34.919
<v Speaker 1>that he was doing that I thought was unnecessary. So

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 1>he and I formed a referendship and a relationship after

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that was a lot better than before, because, yeah, I

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>think he got he got the good stuff. Like you

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>know what, I might have a problem in my own

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 1>ranks if I continue this type of behavior. There you go,

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>he got some understanding. And it's nothing wrong with getting

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>some understanding, right, you know. That's what's trying to happen

0:39:56.480 --> 0:40:01.800
<v Speaker 1>here between the community and the police departm Like we've

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.799
<v Speaker 1>had enough. I hope that they understand that, and I

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:09.719
<v Speaker 1>hope they change and get the bad guys out the

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 1>ranks and then come to us with the good guys

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 1>who can still do their job. And every black person

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I know something happened to them, they don't want to

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 1>call the police to get it settled. So this is

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a situation where if they clean up the guys that

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>they send to us, it won't be an issue. If

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 1>they want these you know, these you know bullies, you

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 1>know these these racists, these dudes who they know have

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>no love for the community whatsoever in their heart. They

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>keep sending those dudes, it's gonna be pushback, pushback, push back,

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:51.280
<v Speaker 1>because you think about it. You look at the police

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.399
<v Speaker 1>department as a team. You look at a football team.

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I played on a team. If you had a bad apple,

0:40:57.280 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 1>what did the team try to do? Que They try

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 1>to get them up out of there because they don't

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>want that to you know, to infiltrate the team. And

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.320
<v Speaker 1>then you have especially if the guy as a leader.

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>If the guy's a leader and he's a bad person,

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you really need to get him out of there because

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 1>what he can influence others. Well, if you if you

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 1>got officers that's been their team fifteen years and they're bad,

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 1>what can they do? They become influence on the younger guys,

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:25.760
<v Speaker 1>and then when the younger guys get ten fifteen years,

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>what they've been taught the behavior, Now you keep a

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 1>cycle going. That's what happens, you know, and you've made

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 1>a good example while you gotta get it bad a

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 1>player that won't play right out there, the off the

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 1>team because what is he gonna do At a critical moment,

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna cost you fifteen yards or more, you know

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, At a critical moment, he's gonna cost

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the whole team. And that's what's happening. These bad apples

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 1>are cost him the whole team. You got good cops

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:08.359
<v Speaker 1>out there being called names and being harassed and not

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 1>respected because of the bad guys. Right Well, you know

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.880
<v Speaker 1>for me is that James Baldwin once says it, like

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the police officer he said, he might be a nice guy,

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 1>but I ain't got time to figure that out. All

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I know if he got a badge and a gun,

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and he can take my freedom and he can take

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 1>my life. So my job is can try to get

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 1>him on his way as quick as possible. But if

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you assume every black is a threat, why shouldn't I

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:34.320
<v Speaker 1>assume every cop is bad? Because you make that assumption,

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I threat when we see you bring white guys in

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:41.359
<v Speaker 1>that kill people that have a R fifteens, we see

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>our homes that shot up Denver the movie theater. They

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>take him alive. We see Dalan Ruth, they take him alive.

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 1>We see these guys that kill up that hoot people

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>in these playing parenthoods. They bring him in alive, a

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>guy they think, well, he made a suspicious move or

0:42:55.600 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 1>he had a cell phone and you kill him. Huh. Yeah,

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's uh, it's the value on on our lives.

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 1>That's why we gotta walk around, you know, with a

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 1>slogan like Black Lives Matter. You know it's it's it's

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the devaluation of black life from day one in America

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>that we're still trying to fight. I'm trying to figure out,

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 1>how are you nervous? How are you on edge? You

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:29.479
<v Speaker 1>got a tailor, a baton, a gun, a bulletproof vest,

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and a flashlight, but you view me as a thread

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 1>in jeans and a T shirt. Shouldn't I be the

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:38.359
<v Speaker 1>one that's on edge? Yeah, you should be the one

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>on edge. But you know when they you know, they

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>got something called qualified immunity you give, you give a

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 1>racist police the h the license to kill with no repercussions, right,

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna take that one day. Yeah, of course,

0:43:57.360 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 1>because because as you mentioned, qualified a mute, because they

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court says you have to put yourself in that

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 1>man shoot at that moment, not right now, at that moment. Well,

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 1>anything that he view they say, anything that's viawty of

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the threat real or imagine shoe just imagine I'm in

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 1>the grocery store. Oh you gave me a bad look.

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:23.319
<v Speaker 1>I filed for you. Well I felt threatened. You can't

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 1>do that, but yes, for the police you can. Yeah,

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 1>And it's it's ridiculous and it's getting a lot of

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:36.320
<v Speaker 1>people killed. Yes, because officers are quick on the trigger

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 1>because they't know nothing that's gonna happen, and they kill

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>people they don't have to, and they know they're gonna

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:47.319
<v Speaker 1>walk home and not get anything done to him. So

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>you put that in the hands of a racist officer,

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 1>you got a dangerous man a woman on your hands.

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to the beginning. You growing up instead,

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:07.239
<v Speaker 1>you grew up in south central LA. Yeah, And if

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Cuban growing up, what did you what did you want

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 1>to be when you became an adult? Uh? You know,

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:17.840
<v Speaker 1>when you're young, it's of course football player, play a

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 1>little full back, little outside linebacker. So you know, I

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted to play football, and you know I really got

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>to the music young about thirteen fourteen, you know, we

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 1>started to you know, spray paint and pull out cardboard

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and try to break dance and do all the stuff

0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:45.280
<v Speaker 1>that we've seen everybody else doing. And so I started

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>getting into music real early. Never thought I could make

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:51.799
<v Speaker 1>a living at it because all the professionals to me

0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 1>was on the East Coast. It was in New York,

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 1>a New York driven game back then, and so you know,

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I just thought, you know, I could just get a

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>regular job that just don't pay off. I went to

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 1>school for architectural drafting because I liked drafting when I

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 1>was when I was young in school. I ended up

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 1>after high school, ended up going to a trade school,

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and so that was cool. But the music started to

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:25.239
<v Speaker 1>take off, and that's really where my heart was, and

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:27.919
<v Speaker 1>I started to just wrong with it. So how old

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 1>were you when you joined the group and how did

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:37.359
<v Speaker 1>the NWA come about? I was probably about seventeen when

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I when I joined in WA. We we were all

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 1>in different groups. Everybody everybody without in a different group.

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Everybody else was doing their own thing. So how did

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 1>you guys decide to come together? Well, a group that

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 1>that Dre was in called Directing Crew. Dre and Yellow

0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 1>was in that group right, and they were kind of

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:03.919
<v Speaker 1>like they was making the most noise in La out

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:06.359
<v Speaker 1>of all of us. The world last which the Recking

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Creup World Class Wrecking Crew. So Linzo, who ran the

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Wrecking Crew, really wouldn't let Dre do the hardcore records

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 1>that he really started to want to do, right, So

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 1>so me and Drey started doing mix tapes and I

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 1>would do the hardcore raps on the mix tapes, talking

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:31.560
<v Speaker 1>about the neighborhood. Well Easy with his Drey's old friend

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 1>got one of the tapes, trapped Dray down and was like, Yo,

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>you know I've been hustling on the street. I don't

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 1>want to flip some of his money, so I want

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 1>to start. I want to I want to have a

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 1>label and I want to call it Ruthless Records. And

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:51.840
<v Speaker 1>so he had these groups that he was trying to

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 1>get on Ruthless Records. But but he asked me to

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 1>write a song for him. I wrote a song called

0:47:57.000 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Boys in the Hood and the group didn't want to

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 1>do it because they was from New York. So Drey

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:06.839
<v Speaker 1>convinced Easy to do the song. So Easy ended up

0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:09.919
<v Speaker 1>doing Boys in the Hood the song, and he was like,

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>we should do an all star group. This is what

0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Easy said, we should do all star group. We'll take

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the best out of you know, I'll be easy. We'll

0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 1>take Drey and Yellow out of the record crew, will

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 1>take Q out of out of a group called CIA,

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 1>take QUB out of that, and then we don't, you know,

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 1>we just do the side group hardcore records, you know,

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:35.799
<v Speaker 1>and then y'all can't go back and do you know,

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:40.399
<v Speaker 1>slow jams and whatever y'all was doing. So we ended

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>up doing that record, and man, it just started to

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 1>pick up a minium and it was just sounding better

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:48.200
<v Speaker 1>and better and better. So we all ended up quitting

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:51.839
<v Speaker 1>our groups and just stay with art, you know, with

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 1>us forming this all star group. And uh, one day

0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:59.520
<v Speaker 1>they came to pick me up and Easy was like,

0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:01.799
<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna call you know, he was saying what

0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna call the group? And I said, what we're

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna call it? He said in wa I'm like what

0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:12.319
<v Speaker 1>that means. When he told me what it meant, I

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:17.399
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, yeah, we're about to start some ish

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:22.799
<v Speaker 1>right now. So you know, from there we just was

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:25.319
<v Speaker 1>tight and we just was just figuring out what we

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:28.759
<v Speaker 1>need to do to start making noise in the hip

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>hop scene. Did you know that when you joined this group,

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you guys were going to become What you became is

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:42.359
<v Speaker 1>that you guys are really the originator of the gangster rap,

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the hardcore rap. Did you know that at the time?

0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Not at all. At the time, you know, we thought

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 1>those records were gonna be They had a section in

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the record store what they would play all the dirty

0:49:57.200 --> 0:50:02.040
<v Speaker 1>comedy records like Richard pryor you could get Eddie Murphy

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 1>record over there, Red Fox. It was this dirty rapper

0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:10.279
<v Speaker 1>by the name of Blowfly Dolomite. You can get all

0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 1>them kind of records. So we thought our record was

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be over there in that dirty section. So when

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:20.799
<v Speaker 1>they started to put it out front where all the

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 1>regular hip hop was and people just start buying it,

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 1>we knew we had a style that that was unique,

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:33.760
<v Speaker 1>that was different. But you know there was other people

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:37.719
<v Speaker 1>who who was dibbling and dabbling and what I would

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:41.279
<v Speaker 1>call gangster rap. You know, you had Iced Tea out there, right,

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Scoomy d h. He had a song called psk Uh

0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and then you had you know, Boogie Down Productions had

0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:55.200
<v Speaker 1>did a record called Criminal Minded that he's loved that record.

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:59.120
<v Speaker 1>So it was a few people who had dibbled and

0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:02.440
<v Speaker 1>dabbled in that style, right, I mean that became Iced

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Tea signature style. Think Iced Tea and n WA where

0:51:07.840 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the first two real jump offs, and then the Ghetto

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Boys came through, right, you know, and it was other groups.

0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:16.360
<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, you know that's kind of how it

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 1>jumped off and that's how it started. So when you're

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:22.880
<v Speaker 1>in a group, how do you determine who's gonna be

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:26.359
<v Speaker 1>lead on a particular song or is it like you know,

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:28.800
<v Speaker 1>like Teddy Pendagraphs when he was with you know, the

0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:31.480
<v Speaker 1>blue note, like Teddy was always out there was it

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:34.239
<v Speaker 1>was you know, Harold Melbourne feature Teddy pendagraph and then

0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Teddy got bigger than Hal and then he wanted to

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 1>put him out. So how do you determine who's gonna

0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 1>be lead on a song? I mean you got a

0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:48.400
<v Speaker 1>producer like Doctor Dre, who you know, usually arranges who's

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna wear you know, what rhyme is gonna go wear,

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:55.440
<v Speaker 1>and so you know, just kind of leaving it up

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:57.360
<v Speaker 1>to him. You know, he was a master at it

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:00.319
<v Speaker 1>on who's gonna lead Some records, I would go first,

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 1>some records, Easy was on. He would go first and

0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:07.879
<v Speaker 1>it was just really on him. Sometimes it determined who

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 1>wrote the rock, you know. You know, I wrote a

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 1>few songs that I was so long, and then we

0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:15.920
<v Speaker 1>would just have Easy on at the end, Like I

0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 1>did a song called Gangster Gangster and Easy just comes

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:22.280
<v Speaker 1>in at the end. So we was just being real experimental.

0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:25.279
<v Speaker 1>But you know, Drey was the lead producer. He would

0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 1>kick you off that joint if you didn't you didn't

0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 1>come with the right lyrics. You he'd be like, you

0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:34.120
<v Speaker 1>ain't on this song? You all? So, so Drey was

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:39.359
<v Speaker 1>really like Dray way back then. Yeah, yeah, without a doubt.

0:52:39.440 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, him and DJ Yeller were they was like

0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 1>mad scientists with it and Drey he was a perfectionist.

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:51.719
<v Speaker 1>So if you didn't come with dope lyrics, if you

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't come with a dope delivery, he would kick you

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:57.400
<v Speaker 1>off the record. Like getting almost records, so you so

0:52:57.520 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 1>you had to so basically you had the brain. He

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:03.279
<v Speaker 1>you had to bring five Yeah every time you hear

0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the record, right, yeah, so the record is he and

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 1>then you know, so a few a few times he

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:12.600
<v Speaker 1>sent us back to the drawing board. You know, he

0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, man, you know, I like the first half

0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:17.560
<v Speaker 1>of that rhyme, but the second half you gotta do

0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:20.960
<v Speaker 1>a little say something, you gotta talk about something difference. So,

0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was a real he was a great producer,

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:28.879
<v Speaker 1>and he just got better and better with each album.

0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:30.439
<v Speaker 1>You know that he would do. He would just get

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:34.560
<v Speaker 1>better and better. You know. Now he's you know, the man.

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 1>So anytime you have success and there's a group, eventually

0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:42.960
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be some bickering, They're gonna be some fighting,

0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:46.560
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be some issues. Who's getting what, who's doing what.

0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Why did NWA break down fall apart? I think it's

0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:59.200
<v Speaker 1>really because, you know, Jerry Helen, who was the manager

0:53:59.239 --> 0:54:04.040
<v Speaker 1>at the time, was really loyal to Easy. You know,

0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Easy was his guy. You know, we were like, uh,

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:10.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just kind of the group, you know,

0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:15.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and so I just think he underestimated

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>what we really meant to the whole you know, success

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:26.480
<v Speaker 1>of Ruthless Records, right, So he just was and Easy,

0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:30.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, was learning the business basically at the same

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:35.280
<v Speaker 1>time we were. When it comes to me, him and Ring,

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 1>we're all learning at the same time. Even though he's

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:43.360
<v Speaker 1>older and dre and yelling at me. The business a

0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:46.239
<v Speaker 1>little bit more, but nobody was experts, you know, right,

0:54:46.440 --> 0:54:51.000
<v Speaker 1>so right people leaned on Jerry to you know, make

0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:55.440
<v Speaker 1>make things right. And it just was a you know,

0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 1>one or two things that just didn't smell right. And

0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:05.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, when somebody starts to, you know, lie when

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:09.120
<v Speaker 1>there's no reason to, he just makes you suspicious, okay,

0:55:09.239 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, the more you look, the more

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you find. And you know, I confronted him and they

0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:20.440
<v Speaker 1>they'd rather, you know, make me the enemy, and instead

0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:24.839
<v Speaker 1>of rectifying the situation, and so I left so when

0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you could you could run to Jerry Heller, the rest

0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:34.719
<v Speaker 1>of the group turned against you. Well, Jerry talked too

0:55:34.800 --> 0:55:37.839
<v Speaker 1>easy right and Easy. You know, he was the head

0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:42.360
<v Speaker 1>of everything. So once Easy was against me, you know,

0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:45.879
<v Speaker 1>Jerry convinced Easy I was a trouble maker. So then

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Easily started to talk to everybody and then you know,

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:51.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty soon I was the eye man out at right

0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:54.279
<v Speaker 1>end of the day. But they didn't kick you out

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and fast I left. I left because I was like,

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:02.080
<v Speaker 1>this ain't gonna work. They're not gonna fix it. You know,

0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:05.279
<v Speaker 1>all he had to do is fix it. And what

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:07.839
<v Speaker 1>did Garry Heller need to do to make it right

0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:13.120
<v Speaker 1>back you. I think he was you know, at the

0:56:13.200 --> 0:56:16.360
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, he was trying to give me

0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:20.719
<v Speaker 1>to sign a contract that my lawyer never read. Okay,

0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:25.000
<v Speaker 1>So to me, that's a bad business and it's a

0:56:25.040 --> 0:56:28.640
<v Speaker 1>bad contract. You don't want my lawyer to even look

0:56:28.680 --> 0:56:30.960
<v Speaker 1>at it. And you know I have a lawyer. He

0:56:31.080 --> 0:56:35.080
<v Speaker 1>kept ducking me and saying, you know, I'll say it,

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll send it, I'll send it. Uh before I had

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:41.879
<v Speaker 1>the lawyer. Before I told him I had the lawyer.

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I had the lawyer, but I didn't tell him. I

0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:46.960
<v Speaker 1>was just trying to get the contract. So I told him,

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:49.399
<v Speaker 1>I said, just send it to my mama. I thought

0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:51.719
<v Speaker 1>he was gonna think, all right, send it to her,

0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:54.440
<v Speaker 1>saying I know what she's looking at. They're gonna sign it,

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna get it back. But he wouldn't even

0:56:57.000 --> 0:56:59.479
<v Speaker 1>send it to her. I'm like, man, damn, you won't

0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:04.960
<v Speaker 1>even send it to her, right you know, So we

0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:09.360
<v Speaker 1>knew something was fishy, Like he can't if he can't

0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:13.120
<v Speaker 1>send us the contracts, definitely can't sign nothing. Were you

0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the only one in the group that had a lawyer

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 1>outside of rufus record lawyer. I think so, but I

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:25.040
<v Speaker 1>had offered that whatever my lawyer tell me, I'm gonna

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:29.640
<v Speaker 1>tell you guys. And you know so y'all my lawyers like,

0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:31.160
<v Speaker 1>y'all law y'alln't have to get a lawyer if you

0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want to, I would advise you to. But but

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell y'all what he's telling me. So I would,

0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, talk with Ran a lot. Me and Ran

0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the same age. We would talk a lot. Who was

0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the youngest in the group, right, and uh so Ran

0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:52.720
<v Speaker 1>knew everything that add that my lawyer was telling me,

0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:58.680
<v Speaker 1>which was don't sign nothing, don't sign nothing, and so

0:58:00.000 --> 0:58:02.520
<v Speaker 1>it was time to sign. I was like, I can't

0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:06.360
<v Speaker 1>sign that. And it was the best move I ever.

0:58:06.440 --> 0:58:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Did you leave the group? You strike out on your

0:58:10.520 --> 0:58:16.320
<v Speaker 1>own death? Did they did you first? Or did you right?

0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:22.480
<v Speaker 1>No vaseline me first? They did you first? Yeah, they

0:58:22.520 --> 0:58:25.880
<v Speaker 1>dissed me on a record card one hundred Miles and Running.

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:29.680
<v Speaker 1>It was like an EP that they released after straight

0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 1>out of Compton. It was a it was a disc

0:58:33.320 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't It wasn't like heavy hand. It was

0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:41.200
<v Speaker 1>like a line, like a little line. So okay, it

0:58:41.280 --> 0:58:42.960
<v Speaker 1>back to him. I gave it back to him a

0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:45.760
<v Speaker 1>little bit on the jacket for Beats. Right at the

0:58:45.880 --> 0:58:48.800
<v Speaker 1>end of Jacket for Beats, it's one line where I

0:58:48.840 --> 0:58:54.480
<v Speaker 1>mentioned one hundred miles and I have your hundred miles

0:58:54.520 --> 0:58:58.720
<v Speaker 1>and running right. And so when they did uh their

0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:02.680
<v Speaker 1>next record, they dissed me real good, you know what

0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, call me Benny to Arnold, all kind of

0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:14.240
<v Speaker 1>all kind of names. So what happened? Okay, they dissed

0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:16.160
<v Speaker 1>you on the line, you kind of dissed them back

0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:18.200
<v Speaker 1>on the line. Did you think it was over? Okay?

0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:20.919
<v Speaker 1>You said, Jordan, I said, man, I'm done, let's move

0:59:20.960 --> 0:59:23.600
<v Speaker 1>on them. You thought it was over? Yeah, because I

0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:26.200
<v Speaker 1>still liked them dudes. You know, they were still you know,

0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:29.400
<v Speaker 1>I had a problem with Easy and Jerry, but I

0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:34.600
<v Speaker 1>still I'm still cool with Dre and Yella and n Wright,

0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:40.320
<v Speaker 1>DLC and them dudes. I was still hanging around. I saw.

0:59:41.080 --> 0:59:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I was just surprised that they would like take again.

0:59:45.080 --> 0:59:48.040
<v Speaker 1>So they dissed you heavy. I mean, they came with it,

0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you like, I got to come back hard. How long

0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:54.520
<v Speaker 1>did it take you to write no Vassili? It took

0:59:54.560 --> 1:00:00.880
<v Speaker 1>me ninety minutes. Ninety minutes ninety minutes. So that so

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<v Speaker 1>another word that had been brewing. You knew, you knew

1:00:03.120 --> 1:00:04.560
<v Speaker 1>they were gonna come back. If it only took you

1:00:04.680 --> 1:00:06.920
<v Speaker 1>ninety minutes, you knew they were gonna come back. So

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<v Speaker 1>you've been plotting, You've been lading and waiting. It wasn't

1:00:10.080 --> 1:00:13.360
<v Speaker 1>like that. It was I was. I was mad. I

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<v Speaker 1>had build up, right, I was on a boat that

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<v Speaker 1>the one of the heads of Priority Records. He took

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<v Speaker 1>me on a boat because you know, I had went

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<v Speaker 1>in there with a bat and and like tore up

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<v Speaker 1>the company, like right, So we was trying to smooth

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<v Speaker 1>things out. So he was saying, I want to play

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<v Speaker 1>this for you. I want to be the first one

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<v Speaker 1>to play it for you. And he played me to

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<v Speaker 1>this that they did to me. But we still had

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<v Speaker 1>two or three hours on this boat, which I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be on no more. I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>take me back. I'm ready to ride a rhyde take

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<v Speaker 1>me back. So I had like two or three hours

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<v Speaker 1>to build up. For about a time I got to

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<v Speaker 1>my room, to my equipment, pain and pad. It just

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<v Speaker 1>all came out and I got interrupted a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>So it probably would I probably would have wrote it faster.

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<v Speaker 1>My sister didn't interrupt me a few times. So how

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<v Speaker 1>was your style different than Easy, different than Drade? What

1:01:33.120 --> 1:01:37.919
<v Speaker 1>was your style? I mean who who did you draw inspiration? Bro? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I used to like hardcore rhynders. You know, I would

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<v Speaker 1>like Mellie Mail like a iced tea caress One Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>D Run from un DMC. You know the ferocious rappers,

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<v Speaker 1>the riders that that really kind of came at you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was a style that you know, those

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<v Speaker 1>different styles floating around, you know rock Him and EPM

1:02:05.800 --> 1:02:11.520
<v Speaker 1>dy Usher than that's that that calm, you know style

1:02:11.600 --> 1:02:14.720
<v Speaker 1>of rhyman where you didn't have to be as ferocious

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<v Speaker 1>in the mine. And you know, then you had the

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<v Speaker 1>rappers who were smooth, you know, the heavy ds of

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<v Speaker 1>the world, you know, salting Peppers, you know people who

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<v Speaker 1>were you know, just a little more style. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>slick Ricks of the world who were and Dan and

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<v Speaker 1>Danes were super creative. So you know, so that that

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<v Speaker 1>would be my style. You know that that Carras one

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck d you know, ferocious in your face kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop. Who are you? Who are your top five

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<v Speaker 1>greatest rappers of all time? And I just named them

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<v Speaker 1>all I got. You know, it's hard to put him

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<v Speaker 1>in the greatest of all time, you know, but but

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<v Speaker 1>like our favorite m sees in the world are melody

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<v Speaker 1>male because he ushered in you know, a serious you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a commentary about the neighborhood heist tea. You know, a

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<v Speaker 1>dude from LA who put La on the map when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to being you know, top notch pro MC

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<v Speaker 1>like like there was all through New York Chuck d

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<v Speaker 1>because of subject matter right and delivery carras one, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>once again styled delivery flow subject matter you know l

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<v Speaker 1>coo J just to me the young femine. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was all Lebron, right, yeah, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>He was all lebron just you know, sixteen seventeen, eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old, just at the height of rock, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so and and had sustained it his whole career as

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<v Speaker 1>far as you know, just being able to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>transcend eras and you know he's still the man on

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<v Speaker 1>TV now, you know, and still can you know we

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<v Speaker 1>did uh this little see kings out of mac back here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that that was you know l headline, me

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<v Speaker 1>Publican and me and day our souls so you know

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's like creaming the crop when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop. How different is it writing a throng as

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<v Speaker 1>the post to writing a movie? I mean, you failed,

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<v Speaker 1>it took How long did it take you the right Friday?

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<v Speaker 1>For If it took me about three months to write Friday?

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<v Speaker 1>You know I had I had a help of course

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<v Speaker 1>from DJ Pooh, but also had had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>help from from a manager I had named Pat Charbonet.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also a producer on the movie, you know, between

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<v Speaker 1>cool and her. Uh, you know about three months of us,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, me writing, sending the pages, then giving me feedback,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the process take about three months till

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<v Speaker 1>we had something we felt okay, this is a movie

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<v Speaker 1>we can go shoot. So how long So it take

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<v Speaker 1>you three months to write Friday? How long would it

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<v Speaker 1>take you to write an album, A complete the song,

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<v Speaker 1>an album? You know, I don't really put a time

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<v Speaker 1>limen on right now album, you know, I don't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of go with the inspiration. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you've been in the game as long as I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in the game, you don't really want to reach

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<v Speaker 1>for inspiration. You want it to just come to you right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then you do songs as the inspiration comes.

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<v Speaker 1>So so you might write a song, so it might

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<v Speaker 1>take I write one song one day and then take

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<v Speaker 1>two or three days off write another, or you might

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<v Speaker 1>go half a song. So it's not like you're just

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<v Speaker 1>fitting down every single day, putting pain the pad. No. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's forcing it. And I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a song will come to you. And to me, the

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<v Speaker 1>best songs are the fastest that you write. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if it take if it take you a long time

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<v Speaker 1>to write the song, it's probably not as good as

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<v Speaker 1>a song that that you can write like that, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just to me, that's just how the

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<v Speaker 1>inspiration comes. When you've got a good song, it just

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<v Speaker 1>pours out. When you're forcing it, you have to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dig it out. And I don't like digging out songs.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to I like to write a song, let

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<v Speaker 1>it flow, and then go record it, you know, find

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<v Speaker 1>the music for it, go record it, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>might sit on that song. I might sing on a

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<v Speaker 1>song for the year two three years. What yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because well, you know, put it out when it's right,

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<v Speaker 1>or when the time is right, or when the out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, make that part of an album. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to just throw songs out every time

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<v Speaker 1>I'm finish them, right. Sometimes I like to keep them

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<v Speaker 1>and make sure that they first of all, I like

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure they're gonna stand the test a time

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<v Speaker 1>for me, you know, and then then I'll put them out.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got different, different styles and different techniques, but

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<v Speaker 1>always let it flow. How different is the rap game

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<v Speaker 1>that you came up in compared to the rap game today. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when I first came up, there was you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>who would usher you into the game. There was certain

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<v Speaker 1>avenues that you felt like you had to go through

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<v Speaker 1>to even be taking serious. So you know, people weren't

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<v Speaker 1>rocking around pressing records up, you know, just without without

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<v Speaker 1>really thinking long hard pressing you on the record, making

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<v Speaker 1>sure the record is is good enough to press and

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<v Speaker 1>just really running you through the ring. And before you

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<v Speaker 1>could do a record right, you know, as hip hop

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<v Speaker 1>came and more independent labels came out, that became a

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<v Speaker 1>little looser. So that was the game back then. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you could be in your own you did

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<v Speaker 1>the track, and you can put it out all over

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<v Speaker 1>the world. That man so there's really nothing holding a

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<v Speaker 1>hartist back from being creative. Uh might hold you back

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<v Speaker 1>from from chasing the money and finding the money, but

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<v Speaker 1>being a creative person and putting something out in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing is holding you back. And when we were coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be obstacles that if you didn't cross, or

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<v Speaker 1>it was threshold you didn't you didn't cross, you wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to be heard or seen. You're just gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a demo. So it's just a new game, man. You know,

1:09:36.280 --> 1:09:40.000
<v Speaker 1>anybody can to be creative and put our music. So

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<v Speaker 1>do you need a record label, do you need a deal?

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<v Speaker 1>Or can you do all of that on your own?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, everything is promotion and you can do it

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<v Speaker 1>on your own. But if you don't really have the

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<v Speaker 1>money to promote it, it's gonna be a big uphill battle,

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<v Speaker 1>which is finn. You know, some artists got to do

1:10:01.640 --> 1:10:05.040
<v Speaker 1>what they gotta do, right. Most artists want to be

1:10:05.120 --> 1:10:08.680
<v Speaker 1>discovered by the label and and a lot of a

1:10:08.760 --> 1:10:11.760
<v Speaker 1>little or the dirty work is done for you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you kind of come in on a different plateau, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you can try to go up from there.

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<v Speaker 1>So but to me, it's no magic formula, man, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Soldier Boy became a star from creating that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Superman in his room, right, you know, and so

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing that that can hold you back if you're

1:10:34.760 --> 1:10:38.240
<v Speaker 1>super creative and people just got to hear your stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you got that time make yourself known.

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<v Speaker 1>You obviously you've been in the game and you understand

1:10:45.439 --> 1:10:48.320
<v Speaker 1>the game. But it seems to be now that the

1:10:48.520 --> 1:10:52.680
<v Speaker 1>rappers and the artists today like realize that only your

1:10:52.760 --> 1:10:56.280
<v Speaker 1>masters's where it's at. And it seems to me that

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to incorporate that. Whereas before, guys, I just

1:11:00.520 --> 1:11:01.960
<v Speaker 1>want to I just want to produce, I just want

1:11:01.960 --> 1:11:03.240
<v Speaker 1>to sing, I want to do music. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get an album out, and they forgot about that. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that worth? Is that worth hitting? Now? Well? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you really look back and think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, most people come in the game and not

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<v Speaker 1>even think about masters or thinking of think about They

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<v Speaker 1>just want to be on the radio, they want to

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<v Speaker 1>be at the cancer, they want to do a video,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do those things. And once you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>game a little while, you realize, you know, why is

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<v Speaker 1>everybody getting money except me? And then you realize if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't own the masters or the publishing, the money's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go elsewhere. But I think artists have discovered that

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<v Speaker 1>from the beginning of the time. You know, you have

1:11:47.479 --> 1:11:50.680
<v Speaker 1>artists going all the way back and fighting for their masters.

1:11:52.280 --> 1:11:54.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, you have artists, you know, they come into

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<v Speaker 1>game owning their masters, you know, like the Masterpiece of

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<v Speaker 1>the World and uh uh Luke, you know, Luke Skywalker,

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<v Speaker 1>Luke Campbell, Luke the Campbell owning his master's easy, you know,

1:12:09.360 --> 1:12:14.720
<v Speaker 1>owned his masters. So you know, death Row and and

1:12:14.920 --> 1:12:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I believe James Brown owned a lot

1:12:18.400 --> 1:12:22.360
<v Speaker 1>of his masters. So artists have fought for this from

1:12:22.400 --> 1:12:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the time. But it's just you know,

1:12:26.000 --> 1:12:28.880
<v Speaker 1>either have the leverage to to get it or you don't.

1:12:30.400 --> 1:12:33.000
<v Speaker 1>If you, you know, are doing something on your own

1:12:33.080 --> 1:12:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and they come to you and need to get it

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<v Speaker 1>from you, like they had to do with Master p

1:12:38.600 --> 1:12:41.240
<v Speaker 1>who's doing his own thing, then you can walk in

1:12:41.360 --> 1:12:45.360
<v Speaker 1>there owning your masters from day one. You know, if

1:12:45.400 --> 1:12:49.000
<v Speaker 1>you go sign with a label, they're gonna own the

1:12:49.080 --> 1:12:52.040
<v Speaker 1>masters because they're putting up all the risk. So it

1:12:52.160 --> 1:12:56.280
<v Speaker 1>depends on you know, independent there's a hard way, but

1:12:56.479 --> 1:13:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you you start off own and that's the key, owning ownership.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's something artists can always fight for,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to the end of end of music. So

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<v Speaker 1>what who do you like today? If you're in your car,

1:13:12.600 --> 1:13:15.840
<v Speaker 1>you're riding around, who are you listening to? Man? You know,

1:13:16.040 --> 1:13:18.240
<v Speaker 1>thank god I got the eye, uh you know that

1:13:18.680 --> 1:13:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the iPad, so I can listen to oldies. I'm listening

1:13:22.439 --> 1:13:24.800
<v Speaker 1>to everything. That's what's cool. You know, I can listen

1:13:24.880 --> 1:13:29.040
<v Speaker 1>to everything right now. And you know I'm still you know,

1:13:29.200 --> 1:13:33.160
<v Speaker 1>bumping that easy Brother's greatest hits. So you know, I

1:13:33.200 --> 1:13:36.160
<v Speaker 1>ain't really worried about the new artists right now. That's

1:13:36.160 --> 1:13:38.200
<v Speaker 1>how I listened to the grooves. I listen to the

1:13:38.240 --> 1:13:41.000
<v Speaker 1>old stuff, but I ain't got it there anymore. Cube,

1:13:41.000 --> 1:13:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna even like, don't worry about it. Man,

1:13:43.400 --> 1:13:45.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know what you like and man, as

1:13:45.560 --> 1:13:48.360
<v Speaker 1>long as it's still around, then then you're a happy man.

1:13:49.840 --> 1:13:53.320
<v Speaker 1>You're doing the music. You're good in the music. When

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<v Speaker 1>did you know you wanted to do acting? I didn't know,

1:13:58.360 --> 1:14:02.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was just stubborn by John Singleton. He

1:14:03.080 --> 1:14:07.439
<v Speaker 1>really saw me, you know, as dough boy, and he

1:14:07.560 --> 1:14:10.760
<v Speaker 1>saw me like, yo, I'm doing this movie and you

1:14:11.000 --> 1:14:13.200
<v Speaker 1>perfect for it. And that's how he came at me.

1:14:13.880 --> 1:14:18.160
<v Speaker 1>And for two years I kind of didn't take him

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<v Speaker 1>serious until he finally sent a script and and when

1:14:23.479 --> 1:14:26.479
<v Speaker 1>I walked in and saw that he was actually shooting

1:14:26.560 --> 1:14:30.960
<v Speaker 1>this movie, that's the first time I said, okay, okay, damn,

1:14:31.000 --> 1:14:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I I guess I'm gonna be an actor. And so, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thank God for John Singleton, rest in peace

1:14:40.040 --> 1:14:43.400
<v Speaker 1>that he uh, you know, he pursued me, you know,

1:14:44.240 --> 1:14:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and he did that with a lot of dudes. You know,

1:14:47.479 --> 1:14:53.880
<v Speaker 1>busting rhymes put him in a movie, and you know,

1:14:54.120 --> 1:14:58.080
<v Speaker 1>he worked a lot with too Pok. So he he

1:14:58.280 --> 1:15:01.960
<v Speaker 1>was always going to the artists, and you know, they

1:15:02.000 --> 1:15:05.800
<v Speaker 1>put Jane Jackson in the movie. He always saw in

1:15:06.040 --> 1:15:11.120
<v Speaker 1>artists movie stars. And you know, thank god, even Tyrese.

1:15:11.680 --> 1:15:15.160
<v Speaker 1>You you put Tyrese in the movie who came from music.

1:15:17.000 --> 1:15:21.160
<v Speaker 1>So this dude just saw something in us as entertainers

1:15:22.080 --> 1:15:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and stepped up and made us movie stars. So once

1:15:27.360 --> 1:15:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you got cast in that movie, the acting bug hit

1:15:31.280 --> 1:15:34.720
<v Speaker 1>it bit. Yes, yeah, man, I mean boys in the Head.

1:15:34.800 --> 1:15:37.880
<v Speaker 1>This is my first movie. The movie went to the

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<v Speaker 1>can Film Festival in the South of France, right so

1:15:42.720 --> 1:15:45.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, we young, and I got my wife with me,

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<v Speaker 1>see my girlfriend at the time. But we're in the

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<v Speaker 1>South of France. Man, you live loved life right now. Man,

1:15:53.840 --> 1:15:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh man, I'm a movie star. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like ROSI and we did a screening. I was

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<v Speaker 1>nervous at the screening because here we was showing a

1:16:05.120 --> 1:16:08.200
<v Speaker 1>movie that I wasn't sure that America would get, you know,

1:16:08.360 --> 1:16:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Boys in the Hood. Here it was about to be

1:16:11.400 --> 1:16:15.519
<v Speaker 1>shown with subtitles in French. So I'm like, oh, you know,

1:16:15.640 --> 1:16:18.080
<v Speaker 1>these people ain't gonna understand what this movie is really

1:16:18.160 --> 1:16:24.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to say. Eddie Murphy was there, Quincy Jones was there,

1:16:26.040 --> 1:16:29.519
<v Speaker 1>and they showed a movie and we get a Standing

1:16:29.560 --> 1:16:35.200
<v Speaker 1>innovation man, And so I was like, okay, this the

1:16:35.360 --> 1:16:38.240
<v Speaker 1>movie has power that the music has. It has the

1:16:38.439 --> 1:16:42.840
<v Speaker 1>power to show people a world that that they have

1:16:43.240 --> 1:16:45.880
<v Speaker 1>never seen before. So from then on, I wanted to

1:16:45.960 --> 1:16:51.320
<v Speaker 1>do movies. But one is through worth, the other through picture. Yeah,

1:16:51.640 --> 1:16:54.560
<v Speaker 1>but there's you know, I do music, but when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to movies, there's no bigger canvas and artists can

1:16:59.280 --> 1:17:03.000
<v Speaker 1>can paint on the you know, in a movie screen.

1:17:03.479 --> 1:17:05.559
<v Speaker 1>When you say you took you took your three months

1:17:05.600 --> 1:17:10.040
<v Speaker 1>to write Friday. Did you know Friday was gonna be Friday?

1:17:11.479 --> 1:17:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I was hoping it would. You know, when you grow

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<v Speaker 1>up in the Hood, you got your classics, you got

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<v Speaker 1>your yeah, you know, your uptas Saturday Nights, you got

1:17:21.040 --> 1:17:23.640
<v Speaker 1>your coolie hides. Yep, you know what I mean. You

1:17:23.760 --> 1:17:28.879
<v Speaker 1>got car wash movies, car washs. These movies are kloeen.

1:17:29.840 --> 1:17:34.560
<v Speaker 1>That's just staples in your in your household. You know that,

1:17:35.320 --> 1:17:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, these are movies that that your family love,

1:17:38.280 --> 1:17:41.320
<v Speaker 1>you love you can watch over and over again. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>right when I start getting in the movies, I said, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we need a Hood classic. We need we need one

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<v Speaker 1>of the movies that they love us for Like we

1:17:49.960 --> 1:17:54.200
<v Speaker 1>love car Washing, right, we love you know ron On

1:17:54.360 --> 1:17:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Neil Right, they're super flyer. He was a king, you

1:17:57.680 --> 1:18:00.200
<v Speaker 1>know to us. You know. So so we was like, man,

1:18:00.240 --> 1:18:02.599
<v Speaker 1>we gotta have one of those. You know. I felt

1:18:02.640 --> 1:18:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Boys in the Hood was a good a good one,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wanted one that was a comedy that that

1:18:08.960 --> 1:18:11.880
<v Speaker 1>people can laugh and have fun with. So we went

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<v Speaker 1>out to write Friday for it to be that Hood classic.

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<v Speaker 1>We never knew that there would be so many people

1:18:18.680 --> 1:18:22.200
<v Speaker 1>around the world that would love that. That that real

1:18:22.320 --> 1:18:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Hood classic. You know, Brouh Friday is the godfather of

1:18:27.640 --> 1:18:31.360
<v Speaker 1>the Hood classics. If every if it everybody's top five,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it doesn't matter that's in the top when

1:18:34.760 --> 1:18:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you say, okay, give me a top five. You know,

1:18:36.479 --> 1:18:40.320
<v Speaker 1>when we talk amongst ourselves, Friday is in there. Friday

1:18:40.439 --> 1:18:44.040
<v Speaker 1>in there. People like Friday and House Party. I love

1:18:44.160 --> 1:18:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Players Club. I bet hey, but you gotta you gotta have.

1:18:48.439 --> 1:18:50.559
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about some of the people that you've cast.

1:18:50.600 --> 1:18:53.439
<v Speaker 1>You've casted some great comedians. You had Bernie Matt, you

1:18:53.640 --> 1:18:58.680
<v Speaker 1>had Witherson John Witherspoon when you did you and this

1:18:58.880 --> 1:19:03.559
<v Speaker 1>was before Bernie Mac came Bernie Matt. Yeah, I mean

1:19:03.760 --> 1:19:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I love to put people in a position to win

1:19:10.080 --> 1:19:16.240
<v Speaker 1>and so they can showcase their talent. You know, Russell

1:19:16.320 --> 1:19:19.519
<v Speaker 1>Simmons was doing it with Death Comedy Jam, you know,

1:19:19.680 --> 1:19:23.280
<v Speaker 1>introducing a lot of people who you probably would never

1:19:23.360 --> 1:19:25.560
<v Speaker 1>see unless you went to a black comedy club. You know.

1:19:25.760 --> 1:19:32.080
<v Speaker 1>So I saw Bernie on and Chris Tucker on that

1:19:32.240 --> 1:19:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Death Comedy Jam, and I'm like, man, these dudes need

1:19:35.040 --> 1:19:38.439
<v Speaker 1>to be an emotion pitch. If I ever have power

1:19:39.000 --> 1:19:41.960
<v Speaker 1>to do a movie, I'm putting these dudes in the movie.

1:19:42.439 --> 1:19:44.800
<v Speaker 1>And I saw the same thing with Jamie Fax with

1:19:44.920 --> 1:19:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Players Club, you know, and I'm one of the first

1:19:47.600 --> 1:19:51.760
<v Speaker 1>guys to kill Jamie in the movie. So you know,

1:19:51.800 --> 1:19:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I just would see these you know, hilarious people that

1:19:55.800 --> 1:20:00.559
<v Speaker 1>I thought, like, yo, I'm not a comedian, so I'm

1:20:00.600 --> 1:20:05.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna surround myself body's top comedians and let them go

1:20:05.400 --> 1:20:08.320
<v Speaker 1>off and let them do their things. See that's the key,

1:20:09.040 --> 1:20:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Like if I was a comedian, I was feel intimidated

1:20:12.960 --> 1:20:16.600
<v Speaker 1>by how many laughs this one is getting in, that

1:20:16.720 --> 1:20:19.360
<v Speaker 1>one is getting it, So I would suppress that, make

1:20:19.400 --> 1:20:21.800
<v Speaker 1>sure I was getting on the laughs. But by me

1:20:22.400 --> 1:20:25.920
<v Speaker 1>not worrying about that, I let this guys shine, you know,

1:20:26.120 --> 1:20:30.479
<v Speaker 1>for Cat Williams, my gaps. You know, just let them

1:20:30.640 --> 1:20:34.640
<v Speaker 1>go and blow and do their thing, and you know

1:20:34.760 --> 1:20:38.439
<v Speaker 1>they're going on to have great careers, man, and I'm

1:20:38.479 --> 1:20:40.960
<v Speaker 1>really proud of But the thing about a comedian is

1:20:41.040 --> 1:20:43.679
<v Speaker 1>that they really at that beast when they add live

1:20:43.760 --> 1:20:46.519
<v Speaker 1>with the improvisation. So how much do you let them

1:20:46.600 --> 1:20:51.200
<v Speaker 1>go as opposed to what you've actually written. I always,

1:20:51.360 --> 1:20:53.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, think you gotta start with a great script.

1:20:54.080 --> 1:20:56.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, if the script is not making you laugh

1:20:56.520 --> 1:21:01.400
<v Speaker 1>out loud. You should keep writing because a comedian a

1:21:01.479 --> 1:21:04.599
<v Speaker 1>great comedian and not only take that line you wrote,

1:21:05.320 --> 1:21:09.720
<v Speaker 1>but he'll piggyback off that and continue to ride with

1:21:09.840 --> 1:21:12.599
<v Speaker 1>the ad libs. So if you give him a great

1:21:12.680 --> 1:21:16.200
<v Speaker 1>jump off point, then they'll start running with the ad

1:21:16.320 --> 1:21:20.000
<v Speaker 1>libs and then they'll come back to the script. Right,

1:21:20.080 --> 1:21:22.759
<v Speaker 1>And so that's the that's the key to my movies.

1:21:22.920 --> 1:21:27.720
<v Speaker 1>And so I would say about seventy percent of it

1:21:27.880 --> 1:21:32.320
<v Speaker 1>is written, but thirty percent is you know, letting guys

1:21:32.400 --> 1:21:36.040
<v Speaker 1>do what they do. Because when I look at when

1:21:36.040 --> 1:21:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I look at Bernie Mack and playing Dollar Bill in

1:21:39.040 --> 1:21:43.519
<v Speaker 1>the Players Club, yeah, he and Jamie Foxx playing Blue

1:21:44.200 --> 1:21:48.440
<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievable. You know, that's one of the most underrated

1:21:48.520 --> 1:21:53.439
<v Speaker 1>performances of Bernie Mack in the Players Club. He went off,

1:21:54.240 --> 1:21:58.080
<v Speaker 1>they went off, you know. And so I wrote the

1:21:58.160 --> 1:22:00.160
<v Speaker 1>movie with him in mind. You know, I didn't. I

1:22:00.200 --> 1:22:05.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't have nobody else in my head, but uh but Bernie, right, yeah,

1:22:06.400 --> 1:22:08.760
<v Speaker 1>And I'm glad he took it and he ran with it.

1:22:09.680 --> 1:22:13.960
<v Speaker 1>And no, I'm just proud probably to be a part

1:22:14.040 --> 1:22:16.920
<v Speaker 1>of their career and proud to show people, you know

1:22:17.040 --> 1:22:20.880
<v Speaker 1>what they got. You mentioned you put a lot of guys,

1:22:20.960 --> 1:22:24.480
<v Speaker 1>from Jamie Foxx to Bernie Macncat Williams to John Witherspoon,

1:22:24.880 --> 1:22:30.439
<v Speaker 1>Michael Clark, Duncan began Good U, T J. Johnson. I mean,

1:22:30.520 --> 1:22:33.720
<v Speaker 1>there's so many. I mean, I'm thinking back. That might

1:22:33.800 --> 1:22:36.800
<v Speaker 1>have been their first pace in the movie business. It

1:22:36.840 --> 1:22:40.600
<v Speaker 1>is when you put them over. Yeah, I mean we

1:22:40.800 --> 1:22:44.439
<v Speaker 1>was learning together, you know, it's it's their talent. Really,

1:22:44.520 --> 1:22:47.160
<v Speaker 1>they put him on, you know, I just thank god

1:22:47.200 --> 1:22:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I was in a position to showcase it right, and

1:22:51.680 --> 1:22:54.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, and you know, I look at him and

1:22:54.240 --> 1:22:57.639
<v Speaker 1>I see them doing their thing, you know, and I'm

1:22:57.800 --> 1:23:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm extremely proud that they were able to take that

1:23:01.400 --> 1:23:05.040
<v Speaker 1>run with it. The only thing I hate, Cube is that,

1:23:05.800 --> 1:23:08.200
<v Speaker 1>uh Chris Tucker got so big he didn't come back

1:23:08.240 --> 1:23:12.439
<v Speaker 1>with number two, but that the one. I don't know.

1:23:12.479 --> 1:23:14.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if somebody's gonna ever come out with

1:23:14.280 --> 1:23:16.679
<v Speaker 1>a Hood classic better than Friday, I don't know, because

1:23:16.680 --> 1:23:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they do it. I really don't hate,

1:23:19.640 --> 1:23:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you know. Like I said, we did that movie in

1:23:23.040 --> 1:23:26.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty days and it was magic. Every day, Like every

1:23:26.400 --> 1:23:30.880
<v Speaker 1>day we felt like, damn, this is special, you know,

1:23:31.040 --> 1:23:34.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like because everybody, everybody is funny in the movie,

1:23:35.240 --> 1:23:39.000
<v Speaker 1>from from from from Smokey to you, to to Dad

1:23:39.400 --> 1:23:45.679
<v Speaker 1>to a big worm to uh, Smokey's mom. Everybody is funny. Yeah,

1:23:45.920 --> 1:23:49.760
<v Speaker 1>everybody got a chance to do the thing. And it

1:23:50.040 --> 1:23:52.479
<v Speaker 1>was beautiful to do and and and to see it.

1:23:52.960 --> 1:23:54.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is the first movie that I ever

1:23:55.080 --> 1:23:59.599
<v Speaker 1>wrote and produced, so it was it was new to us,

1:24:00.960 --> 1:24:05.719
<v Speaker 1>and and so we were we were really just having fun.

1:24:06.960 --> 1:24:09.559
<v Speaker 1>And and you know, lucky we had somebody as good

1:24:09.640 --> 1:24:12.760
<v Speaker 1>as Gary Gray to capture it and shoot it and

1:24:12.840 --> 1:24:16.920
<v Speaker 1>direct it. And you know, we were just like, man,

1:24:17.040 --> 1:24:19.400
<v Speaker 1>this is this is a movie we want people to

1:24:19.479 --> 1:24:24.439
<v Speaker 1>watch every Friday if they want to, you know, kick back,

1:24:24.520 --> 1:24:26.360
<v Speaker 1>and this is just gonna be one of those movies

1:24:26.439 --> 1:24:28.920
<v Speaker 1>that you gotta keep in your rotation. If it comes

1:24:28.960 --> 1:24:31.880
<v Speaker 1>on TV, I'm watching it. If it comes on I'm white,

1:24:31.920 --> 1:24:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I can't be flipping the channel. Then

1:24:34.360 --> 1:24:36.320
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden that movie is on because I'm up,

1:24:36.360 --> 1:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>say there. I mean, it's a special movie in a

1:24:39.160 --> 1:24:42.679
<v Speaker 1>lot of ways. You know, it's a movie that most

1:24:42.720 --> 1:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>people don't detect, but it's it's the day the bullet

1:24:45.920 --> 1:24:52.120
<v Speaker 1>gets beat up and everybody remembers and loves that day

1:24:52.240 --> 1:24:55.439
<v Speaker 1>when the bullet gets finally get it what he deserves.

1:24:55.520 --> 1:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>So that movie has a lot of special specialness to

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<v Speaker 1>with just on other tips that people don't even really

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<v Speaker 1>detect most of the time. Oh yeah, and Regina King

1:25:06.960 --> 1:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>was in the movie. The a longer than the movie. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me ask you a question. When you have

1:25:12.760 --> 1:25:18.360
<v Speaker 1>such great success and you write Friday and it's beloved,

1:25:19.160 --> 1:25:21.720
<v Speaker 1>do you run into the things like I gotta write

1:25:21.760 --> 1:25:24.400
<v Speaker 1>another Friday? Because a lot of people say what happened

1:25:24.400 --> 1:25:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to Michael is that when he wrote Thriller, he was

1:25:26.800 --> 1:25:30.080
<v Speaker 1>always looking for the next album to sell twenty five million.

1:25:30.360 --> 1:25:32.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's not always the case. Sometimes you have it,

1:25:32.840 --> 1:25:35.519
<v Speaker 1>you have you write something, you do something that you're

1:25:35.560 --> 1:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>never gonna be recreated, and you have to be okay

1:25:38.920 --> 1:25:41.640
<v Speaker 1>with that. That doesn't mean you stop trying, but that

1:25:41.720 --> 1:25:44.880
<v Speaker 1>means you have to be okay with that. Yeah, you know,

1:25:45.080 --> 1:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's a moment in time right now, you catch

1:25:48.439 --> 1:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>lighting in the bottle as they say, you know, I

1:25:52.040 --> 1:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>had violent mont to even do another Friday, but the

1:25:55.439 --> 1:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>fans had loved it so much right that I said, Well,

1:26:00.120 --> 1:26:03.920
<v Speaker 1>if I'm an entertainer. My job is to get the

1:26:04.000 --> 1:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>people what they want, entertain the people, not just what

1:26:07.200 --> 1:26:10.439
<v Speaker 1>I want, to give them what they want, right, So

1:26:11.240 --> 1:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I worked hard at work, right, and you know the

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<v Speaker 1>next Friday, which introduced Mike Ups, you know, and and uh,

1:26:20.520 --> 1:26:23.720
<v Speaker 1>you know Peaky, you know all the other you know

1:26:23.880 --> 1:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>characters that you end up loving. So, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I never felt that I was chasing the first one,

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<v Speaker 1>even with you know the barber shops, right, you know,

1:26:36.640 --> 1:26:40.240
<v Speaker 1>we did that. The first one was yeah, it was

1:26:40.439 --> 1:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>it was, you know, a home run epic in a

1:26:44.360 --> 1:26:47.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of ways. But with two or three, I never

1:26:47.200 --> 1:26:50.439
<v Speaker 1>felt I was chasing it. I always felt like, I

1:26:50.600 --> 1:26:55.120
<v Speaker 1>need to do a standalone movie. So if one never existed,

1:26:55.760 --> 1:26:59.160
<v Speaker 1>two has to stand on it and be a comprehensive

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<v Speaker 1>its own thing and not just borrow off the jokes

1:27:04.600 --> 1:27:07.439
<v Speaker 1>from the first one. And so that's what I really

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<v Speaker 1>worked at doing, is making each movie standing on his

1:27:11.640 --> 1:27:19.040
<v Speaker 1>own funny and not just regurgitate jokes from the last one. Uh.

1:27:19.200 --> 1:27:22.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, the only thing you're gonna see in all

1:27:22.200 --> 1:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>of them is you got knocked up out, you know

1:27:25.120 --> 1:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. You see that in all of them.

1:27:27.640 --> 1:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>But for the most part, you can watch three and

1:27:31.720 --> 1:27:34.360
<v Speaker 1>never seen two or one, or you can watch two

1:27:34.439 --> 1:27:37.519
<v Speaker 1>and never seen either of them and still and still

1:27:37.680 --> 1:27:40.680
<v Speaker 1>enjoy the movie as as its own than I love

1:27:40.800 --> 1:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Rowie Fanclaus through Ricky Smiley. Yeah you know Ricky. You know,

1:27:47.800 --> 1:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>he a comedian. He wasn't used to doing all that

1:27:50.439 --> 1:27:54.160
<v Speaker 1>physical comedy. So by the end of me whooping him

1:27:54.200 --> 1:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>with that Christmas tree, Ricky was about done with my ass.

1:27:58.120 --> 1:28:01.360
<v Speaker 1>He was like, man, man, how many more times you

1:28:01.439 --> 1:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>gotta hit me with this trip? We gotta gave another angle, man,

1:28:05.200 --> 1:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>a couple more angles and we'll let you go. Man. Yeah,

1:28:09.240 --> 1:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>but he was the man, and you put Terry Crews in, Yeah,

1:28:12.920 --> 1:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Terry Crews. I had met him on next Friday. He

1:28:17.800 --> 1:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>was doing security right outside my trailer and we just

1:28:21.720 --> 1:28:24.400
<v Speaker 1>talked and he's good dude. And now I was like,

1:28:24.600 --> 1:28:26.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what, if I ever need a big I

1:28:27.040 --> 1:28:31.519
<v Speaker 1>ever need a debot part two, I'm I'm gonna get

1:28:31.640 --> 1:28:34.160
<v Speaker 1>this dude. So when we when we thought of Damon

1:28:35.040 --> 1:28:40.880
<v Speaker 1>as you know, the landlord's son who just you know,

1:28:41.400 --> 1:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>it was like, yeah, yeah, he's perfect, he's perfect. So

1:28:47.479 --> 1:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>what's what's next. I know the pandemic is going and

1:28:50.280 --> 1:28:52.519
<v Speaker 1>so there's not a whole lot of production going on.

1:28:52.960 --> 1:28:56.839
<v Speaker 1>So what's next for Q? Is it? Is it a record?

1:28:57.120 --> 1:28:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Is it a movie? What do you have on the horizon?

1:29:00.560 --> 1:29:02.439
<v Speaker 1>Got a couple of things, you know, up under my

1:29:03.080 --> 1:29:06.439
<v Speaker 1>under my sleeve, working on something. I can't really talk

1:29:06.439 --> 1:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>about it right now, but it's it's real cool and

1:29:10.320 --> 1:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>it's on the music tip. But as far as movies,

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<v Speaker 1>we we was in the middle of a movie called

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<v Speaker 1>Flint Flint Strong, you know about the Clarissa Shields who's uh,

1:29:23.960 --> 1:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>you know boxing female boxing was her story and I

1:29:30.520 --> 1:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>was playing, uh, Jason Clutchfield, who who's a trainer, and

1:29:36.120 --> 1:29:38.679
<v Speaker 1>so we was in the middle of that or just starting,

1:29:39.240 --> 1:29:41.599
<v Speaker 1>so you know, hopefully we'll be able to jump back

1:29:41.640 --> 1:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>on that song, finish that movie up. Talking to DJ

1:29:46.240 --> 1:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Caruso about doing another movie called The Killers Game, but

1:29:50.320 --> 1:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>we'll see how that come come about. So you know

1:29:54.720 --> 1:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>that that is like what I'm doing on the professional tip,

1:29:58.439 --> 1:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>But personally, it's really all about, you know, fighting with

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<v Speaker 1>this contract with Black American trying to get trying to

1:30:05.479 --> 1:30:08.519
<v Speaker 1>get some freedom and equality for our people here, and

1:30:09.800 --> 1:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm just fighting that with all my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>A few more thankful, I let you go cue. Your

1:30:15.680 --> 1:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>son follows your footstep. I think a part of us

1:30:18.520 --> 1:30:21.559
<v Speaker 1>all want our sons to do what we did. If

1:30:21.560 --> 1:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you're a lawyer, you want your son to be a lawyer.

1:30:23.120 --> 1:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>You're a doctor, you want to be a doctor. I

1:30:24.960 --> 1:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>professional athlete. You would like to see him following your footsteps.

1:30:28.240 --> 1:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever think your son would follow in your footsteps?

1:30:31.920 --> 1:30:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I never thought that. You know, I've never pushed my

1:30:35.600 --> 1:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>kids to be a part of entertainment. You know, I

1:30:39.720 --> 1:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>think that's something that you It's a dream that you

1:30:43.080 --> 1:30:46.479
<v Speaker 1>have your own right in your own and and then

1:30:46.640 --> 1:30:50.519
<v Speaker 1>you do what it takes to get it. You know,

1:30:50.680 --> 1:30:54.519
<v Speaker 1>with this situation, you know, we had an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>do the straight out of Company movie. Right I knew

1:30:57.280 --> 1:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>they were casting it. I knew I had took my

1:30:59.760 --> 1:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>son on a lot of tours with me, and then

1:31:02.720 --> 1:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>he jumped on stage and he can he can wrap

1:31:05.439 --> 1:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>my songs, you know, not as good as me, but

1:31:09.840 --> 1:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>damn there. And so I knew he had the chops

1:31:14.280 --> 1:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and the personality to do it, but would he take

1:31:17.360 --> 1:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>it serious? And so I put him through the ringing man.

1:31:20.880 --> 1:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, two years of training and you know, acting

1:31:27.280 --> 1:31:30.760
<v Speaker 1>coaches here in la and in New York and just

1:31:30.840 --> 1:31:34.559
<v Speaker 1>getting them ready. And he came through and he did

1:31:34.600 --> 1:31:37.600
<v Speaker 1>a great job in the movie. And really because he

1:31:37.840 --> 1:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>looks he looks like you. I mean, I mean people

1:31:41.160 --> 1:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>they actually thought it was you. He sounds like you.

1:31:45.280 --> 1:31:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he did a great job. Then he showed

1:31:48.040 --> 1:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>me he was serious, which is most important because you know,

1:31:53.439 --> 1:31:55.479
<v Speaker 1>to see a finished movie is cool, but to see

1:31:55.520 --> 1:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>what somebody has to go through right actually do the

1:31:59.200 --> 1:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>movie is growing. And so he ran the full marathon

1:32:06.560 --> 1:32:09.640
<v Speaker 1>with a smile on his face and and happy to

1:32:09.720 --> 1:32:12.439
<v Speaker 1>be a part of the business. So as a family

1:32:12.479 --> 1:32:15.320
<v Speaker 1>who was just real proud of him. And then he

1:32:15.479 --> 1:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>started to get more movies off of what he did

1:32:18.479 --> 1:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>was straight out of confidence. So you know he's a

1:32:20.880 --> 1:32:23.679
<v Speaker 1>bona fide actor. He working more than me. Now that yeah,

1:32:24.160 --> 1:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I think the movie is Denner Thieves. I thought he

1:32:26.800 --> 1:32:29.439
<v Speaker 1>did a job of that. I think you yeah, he

1:32:29.560 --> 1:32:31.760
<v Speaker 1>was great. Now, you know that movie was a little

1:32:31.800 --> 1:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>tough to watch for me because you got these these fake,

1:32:35.560 --> 1:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>fake police. But but but you know, in the end,

1:32:41.520 --> 1:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>you know he's the man. So I'm proud of him.

1:32:44.479 --> 1:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, the whole family is you say that cube

1:32:47.320 --> 1:32:49.599
<v Speaker 1>is that people look at the finished product. They see

1:32:49.640 --> 1:32:51.439
<v Speaker 1>the movie. And that's what I tell all you do

1:32:51.560 --> 1:32:54.320
<v Speaker 1>is see the people that with an athlete winning the game.

1:32:54.720 --> 1:32:57.719
<v Speaker 1>But you don't understand the off season. You don't understand

1:32:57.800 --> 1:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the practices, you don't understand the meetings what led to

1:33:01.240 --> 1:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>the winning of the game. Man, most you know, most athletes,

1:33:06.160 --> 1:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I play the game for free. You're paying them for

1:33:08.680 --> 1:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>all that other stuff you got them to do to

1:33:11.960 --> 1:33:14.800
<v Speaker 1>sending and you know, dealing with all the books the

1:33:14.920 --> 1:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>BS is, that's what he's taking the money. Folk. But

1:33:18.439 --> 1:33:21.439
<v Speaker 1>you know most you know, most of the time, you know,

1:33:21.520 --> 1:33:23.680
<v Speaker 1>we enjoy to do the finished product. You know what

1:33:23.760 --> 1:33:28.040
<v Speaker 1>we enjoy showtime, game time right now, that's when we

1:33:28.200 --> 1:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>know it's time to get the people what they pay for.

1:33:32.760 --> 1:33:37.360
<v Speaker 1>And when you got that mentality, you always do your

1:33:37.439 --> 1:33:41.679
<v Speaker 1>best and get hunting ten. And so that's the most

1:33:41.760 --> 1:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>important thing is is uh, we don't take the work

1:33:47.120 --> 1:33:50.320
<v Speaker 1>for granted. That's why the finished product comes out the

1:33:50.400 --> 1:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>way it does. Cuba had a coach if we were

1:33:54.160 --> 1:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>at meeting, and he said, what I love about Shark,

1:33:56.680 --> 1:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>if that shark would play the game for free, And

1:33:58.760 --> 1:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I said, yep, Coach you're right, but I neven know

1:34:00.640 --> 1:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>if he played for free, because I don't playing for free.

1:34:04.520 --> 1:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. You know, if we're all playing

1:34:06.360 --> 1:34:10.280
<v Speaker 1>for free, I love I love, I love some freedom.

1:34:10.320 --> 1:34:12.639
<v Speaker 1>But if we're all playing for play, I love some paydom.

1:34:13.000 --> 1:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Exactly before I left, you go, Cube, I want to

1:34:15.040 --> 1:34:18.479
<v Speaker 1>get you on this one. You know, Uh, I don't

1:34:18.520 --> 1:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>know how well you know Kanye. I think he's a

1:34:21.720 --> 1:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>great writer, he's a great his songs. I love his music,

1:34:25.280 --> 1:34:27.519
<v Speaker 1>or maybe should I say I love his music? But

1:34:27.640 --> 1:34:30.320
<v Speaker 1>now he's running for president? What do you make a

1:34:30.400 --> 1:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Kanye running for president? You know, I think he, you know,

1:34:35.600 --> 1:34:38.160
<v Speaker 1>started off a little too late, you know, for people

1:34:38.200 --> 1:34:43.720
<v Speaker 1>to really take him all the way serious. And you know,

1:34:44.760 --> 1:34:48.559
<v Speaker 1>I just hope that that you know, he's not being used,

1:34:50.280 --> 1:34:52.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, and that is his decision. If it's his decision.

1:34:52.920 --> 1:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is a free country. You can do

1:34:55.120 --> 1:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>what you want to do. But if you know people

1:34:58.040 --> 1:35:00.720
<v Speaker 1>are pushing him to do it, you know, I don't

1:35:00.720 --> 1:35:03.599
<v Speaker 1>think that part is cool. But yeah, I just think

1:35:03.600 --> 1:35:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you started off too late to really get in the

1:35:06.160 --> 1:35:09.280
<v Speaker 1>gag for real. And so, you know, I think it's

1:35:09.320 --> 1:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>a moment that's gonna end up passing them by. Yeah,

1:35:13.520 --> 1:35:16.320
<v Speaker 1>what are the Lakers gonna do? Everybody's bullish on the Clippers.

1:35:16.479 --> 1:35:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Everybody said, Clippers got this Clippers. The Lakers gonna go

1:35:19.280 --> 1:35:21.519
<v Speaker 1>out in the first round if they play Portland. Everybody's

1:35:21.520 --> 1:35:24.280
<v Speaker 1>saying the Lakers are going out in the first round. Now,

1:35:24.439 --> 1:35:26.599
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers won't go out in the first round. We're

1:35:26.640 --> 1:35:30.519
<v Speaker 1>not worried about the Zippers. You know the Zippers, you know,

1:35:30.640 --> 1:35:33.479
<v Speaker 1>they they try to steal the thunder. They try to,

1:35:34.520 --> 1:35:38.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, pretend like they got a squad that can

1:35:38.680 --> 1:35:41.080
<v Speaker 1>really go to the home. Mind, I've never seen him

1:35:41.120 --> 1:35:44.400
<v Speaker 1>do it. So you know, they gotta show me something.

1:35:44.439 --> 1:35:46.160
<v Speaker 1>The Lakers are showing you that they can make it

1:35:46.240 --> 1:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to the top of the mound. So I'm believing in

1:35:49.120 --> 1:35:52.599
<v Speaker 1>that old purple and gold. Your team is no longer

1:35:52.680 --> 1:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>in California, the team that you root for, that you

1:35:55.240 --> 1:35:57.280
<v Speaker 1>admired as a kid. If you go to the game,

1:35:57.400 --> 1:36:01.479
<v Speaker 1>you have fill real black, you have half, you have jacket,

1:36:01.560 --> 1:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you have all the all the paraphernalia. Now they're in Vegas.

1:36:05.800 --> 1:36:07.759
<v Speaker 1>What do you what's your rate is gonna do this season?

1:36:10.040 --> 1:36:11.519
<v Speaker 1>You know, I hope they you know, at least make

1:36:11.560 --> 1:36:16.240
<v Speaker 1>it to the playoffs. You want a good way, stop playing.

1:36:16.479 --> 1:36:20.280
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna stop. We're gonna stop that. Uh them horses

1:36:20.320 --> 1:36:22.519
<v Speaker 1>out there. Well, first of all, you know you got

1:36:22.600 --> 1:36:25.519
<v Speaker 1>that that guy. They got a young quarterback in Kansas City.

1:36:25.800 --> 1:36:30.559
<v Speaker 1>But homeboy, people, we'll be a wild car. No, we'll

1:36:30.600 --> 1:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>be y'all not gonna even win nine games, y'all, not

1:36:35.800 --> 1:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>even with y'all might y'all might not even win eight

1:36:37.920 --> 1:36:44.320
<v Speaker 1>games que every year. You know. Terrible horse shit, that's

1:36:44.360 --> 1:36:49.800
<v Speaker 1>all I got. Now we all the time we do

1:36:50.040 --> 1:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>beat We beat you guys when we really didn't have

1:36:52.320 --> 1:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>even good team last year. Imagine we're gonna be better

1:36:55.160 --> 1:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>this year. He y'are coming in new stadium. What y'all

1:37:00.120 --> 1:37:03.479
<v Speaker 1>wipe the damn feet off and none of that horse

1:37:03.520 --> 1:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff on your feet when you stepped into that new stadium. Okay, well,

1:37:07.080 --> 1:37:09.400
<v Speaker 1>first of all, look, I mean, y'all should be used

1:37:09.439 --> 1:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>to playing in front of with no fans because there

1:37:11.439 --> 1:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a whole lot of people showing up anyway, y'all

1:37:13.479 --> 1:37:16.519
<v Speaker 1>keep moving. You moved to LA, moved to Oakland, moved

1:37:16.520 --> 1:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>back to LA, moved back to Oakland. Same thing. So

1:37:19.160 --> 1:37:21.320
<v Speaker 1>now you and we still got more fans, and we

1:37:21.439 --> 1:37:25.200
<v Speaker 1>still got more fans than Broncos. Moving away. They still

1:37:25.320 --> 1:37:27.800
<v Speaker 1>love us, They still love us. Man. We can't do

1:37:28.040 --> 1:37:31.840
<v Speaker 1>no wrong. Thank you, Matt. I appreciate it all the best.

1:37:31.880 --> 1:37:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Moving forward, Thank you for giving me a few moments

1:37:34.200 --> 1:37:37.559
<v Speaker 1>of your time today. Enjoy bro and man double less

1:37:37.680 --> 1:37:40.839
<v Speaker 1>man you the man man much love. Appreciate you, Appreciate

1:37:40.920 --> 1:37:44.439
<v Speaker 1>your brother. Yeah, all my life, running all my life,

1:37:45.080 --> 1:37:49.720
<v Speaker 1>sack fights, custle, pricing. One slice got the brother dice

1:37:49.920 --> 1:37:52.439
<v Speaker 1>swap all my life. I've been grinding all my life,

1:37:53.120 --> 1:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>all my life, running all my life, Sack fights, hustle,

1:37:57.120 --> 1:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>back prices, one slice got the broll dice this way

1:38:01.120 --> 1:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>all my life. I've been running all my life.