WEBVTT - Should Chris get a tattoo? 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:06.000 This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:09.159 Chris Harrison and Lauren z e Ma coming to you 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:11.760 from the home office in Austin, Texas. We are back 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.760 together again, reunited, and it feels so good. 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.680 Where have we been? Where have you been? Where have 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:20.120 I been? 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:21.120 Here? 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:22.000 You have? 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:24.400 Okay, So everybody. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:28.040 I was gone from Chris for about a week volunteering 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:31.480 as a counselor again at Experience Camps, my second time 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.599 being a counselor, and as you all know, I love 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:39.120 the organization. Experience Camps is a nonprofit that puts on 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.800 healing summer camps for grieving kids, kids who have lost 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:46.519 a parent or sibling. I'm now on the board. But yeah, 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:48.680 when you go in your accounselor, you're gone for a week. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.520 And I had a wonderful week. Shout out to my bunk, 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:58.880 the Purple Moose, to the triplets Mazie and Charlie and Reese, 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:04.360 to Hayden, to Jayden, to Kaya to is your movie Nellie? 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:04.720 Yes? 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:09.720 These are the MEAs the Mooses. To Cameron, oh my gosh, 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:13.200 who am I missing? To Ico I think I got 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.919 them all. No, to Judith, and to my co counselors 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.399 Ellen and Carly and Kat, to. 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.360 All the kids that went to all the experience camps. 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.160 It was a great little summer get away for everybody. 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.920 So great that you did that. I was lonely. It 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:32.000 was weird. I did some podcasts without you. At one 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.679 point I just drove to Home Goods and was walking 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.680 up and down the candle aisle. You're just sad, just 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:38.680 listening to sad music. 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:42.119 You weren't that desperate. But what was funny is I said, Babe, 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:42.720 what'd you do? 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:44.560 I was gone, you go. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.000 I listened to an entire book about World War Two, 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.960 and then I listened to podcasts. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.360 This is about the things that I. 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:58.080 Learned in the book about World War Two. And I've 0:01:58.120 --> 0:01:59.960 never even known you to listen to a book. 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:04.400 I well, I listened. So the book was Bomber Mafia 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.000 by Malcolm Gladwell. I'm a big Malcolm Gladwell fan. You 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:10.400 guys know him. He wrote Tipping Point and a billion 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.520 other books, and he's brilliant, and so he wrote this book, 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.040 Bomber Mafia. But it really is better on tape because 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.640 he integrated real interviews and a lot of the same 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:22.840 sound that you're getting from back in the day, from 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:27.959 these press conferences and propaganda films that Ronald Reagan voiced 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.400 over that was his. He was a voiceover guy back 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.119 in World War Two, and so you hear this, these 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.560 little propaganda the things we were playing in America to 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.280 talk about the war, and it was Ronald Reagan voicing it. 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:40.520 This fascinating stuff. 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.600 And so, yes, long hows was this book? 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.600 Uh probably three four hours? 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:47.200 Oh that's it? 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:52.000 Okay, well, yeah, and so but a fect great book. 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:55.000 By the way. I cannot recommend it enough, Malcolm, because 0:02:55.000 --> 0:03:00.360 Malcolm Gladwell never just tells a story. It's always the 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.480 the dominoes that had to fall to make that story. 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.600 I've said this many times when there was that TikTok trend. 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.880 Do men think about the Roman Empire every day? I 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.720 think the real thing they think about every day is 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:14.920 World War Two for sure. 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:15.840 Yeah. 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.920 And then so the Bomber Mafia, which again cannot recommend 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.600 enough by Malcolm Gladwell, got me going down this rabbit hole. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.919 I love listening to Malcolm Gladwell, and so he does 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:31.560 a series of podcasts on events that are happened in 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:33.480 our history. They were kind of tough to explain how 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.840 they happened, and one of them was speaking of World 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:36.240 War two. 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:38.560 We're all we always are. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:43.600 The Olympics in Germany, the Hitler Olympics. How did that happen? 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.440 Knowing what we knew going into it, which was, you know, 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:52.280 the anti Semitism, Jews already being persecuted, the Nazi regime 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:56.920 was already formed and going strong. How did America go 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:00.560 to that Olympics in good faith? And they talk about 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:04.520 how that happened, the people involved, and the again the 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:07.440 dominoes that had to fall, and it was that I 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.320 am somewhat ashamed. It was a nine part series that 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.080 I listened to wow about how we got involved in 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.360 the Olympics and the story of Jesse Owens. They go 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.440 into a lot of detailed, a lot of cool little 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.000 aspects about that Olympic Games. 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.240 So what I've realized, and I don't know if this 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.600 is a good or bad thing, but I take up 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:24.000 a lot of. 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:25.560 Your time you do, that's it. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:26.800 You had a lot of free. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.760 Time without me. I don't know if that's I don't 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.040 know what that means. How did it feel for you? 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:35.960 I like to break away when I can from you 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:39.320 to gain knowledge. 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:40.000 Okay, I listen. 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.240 I want to applaud you for making it a productive 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:43.720 use of my time, but you're right. 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.720 But you're right, I must have been lonely because I 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.680 spent the better part of fifteen to sixteen hours just 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.120 on this book and podcast. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.480 I'm usually talking at you so much that you needed 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.719 to have someone else talk at you. 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:57.520 You know, I do. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:59.680 I really do applaude on that, and I know I'm 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:01.720 joking about it, but I think it's very important to 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:03.800 learn from our past in order to move forward with 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.440 our future. And I was thinking as you were like 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.440 telling me about all this, like A, I feel like 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.040 I've forgotten everything I learned in high school history, which 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:13.400 I hate. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.440 I don't love that I have, but it's like in 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.120 one ear out the other. If you don't use it, 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:17.560 you lose it. 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:22.440 And B you know, I miss the History Channel and 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.800 I miss when like the cable guide was just easier 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.560 because I think better content used to be made. 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.120 Like now, I don't know. 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.159 I think there are good docuseries out there, but they're 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.600 so hard to find and it's also thrown together. I 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.320 used to just kind of throw the History Channel on 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:39.760 and see what was on there, and they had great 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.960 content and now I don't even know where to I 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.400 guess Netflix must have a history section for sure. 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:47.800 Are you popping around in there? 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.400 And I love you? Know me? What'd you catch me 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:52.240 watching this weekend? 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.960 I just last night Band of Brothers was like rerunning 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:55.680 Labor Day. 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.799 They did a Band of Brothers just which is funny 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.200 because it's on I can watch it at any time 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.560 it's it's on the streamers, I could go watch it, 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.240 but for some reason, when it's on, I will just 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:07.880 jump in there. 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.760 Something about the happenstance of just what's on? You know, 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.200 we all get caught in that searching through Netflix. Then 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.800 you never pick anything. It's just easier to see what's on. 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:21.600 What is that medically, physically something emotionally. I'm one hundred 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.080 percent for a rewatchable where I find it, and it's 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.000 like I found twenty dollars in my pocket that I'm 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.640 excited that, Oh my god, Roadhouse is on or The 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.520 Replacements was on Oceans eleven Yeah, and it's like and 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:36.560 it's a good spot, so I jump in as opposed 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.400 to I know I could go on right now, I 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.800 could stop this podcast, go on and find Ocean's eleven 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:43.760 or any of these movies and go watch them in 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.960 their entirety. But that's not appealing to me. 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.000 It finds me like finding a twenty dollars bill versus 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:50.240 going to the bank and getting one out. 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.760 You're right, Oh no, no, maybe it's not just like no, 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:53.120 you was. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.480 You're right because it was my twenty dollars bill to 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.280 start anyway, It's not like it's new. Yeah, I at 0:06:58.320 --> 0:06:59.800 one point I did get it out of the bank. 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:00.800 Well that there you go. 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.000 I wasn't excited when I got it out of the ATM. 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.080 I don't know who to consult, but there's a phenomenon 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.760 happening there is, so that's what you did. 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:09.360 Now. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.240 For me, I was with the kiddos and camp was 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:16.440 amazing and if anyone wants to find out more, had 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.760 to experience camps dot org. And our next project is 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.720 going to be focusing in the new year on getting 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.520 the Texas location open in twenty twenty six. Camp was 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.120 very different for me this year than it was the 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.520 first year, and I was really grateful to talk to 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:34.520 the other counselors and it's good to have like them 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.360 as a sounding board. One of them who'd been a 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.200 counselor for several years and now told me, she's like, 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:39.200 every year is different. 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.160 It was still so great, it was amazing. 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.360 It was just different. I like, I was less emotional 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.400 than I was my first year. But I think that's 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:51.040 a good thing. I think it was reflective of you 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.160 know that first year, you're kind of like, Wow, to 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.880 be surrounded by all these other people who understand grief 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.560 is very It's the first time you've ever experienced it, 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:01.920 and it's very powerful. I think this year I was 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.440 a little less emotional, and I was torn on how 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.240 to feel about it. On the one hand, it made 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:11.080 me feel good, like maybe I'm able to be even 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.920 stronger and more present and more giving to the kids 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.520 because I'm less emotional myself. And then part of me 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.200 was worried that I was failing by being less emotional, 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.720 because I do think for the kids it's helpful for 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.760 them to see adults be vulnerable and set that example. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.000 But it's always that combination, right, how much do you 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:31.640 want to be open and vulnerable and how much do 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:32.440 you want to be strong? 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.160 Right? And so I was worried. I kept I couldn't 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.840 shake this feeling that I was failing them. I don't know. 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:40.600 Yeah, you and I talked a lot about about that. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.160 I mean, I think you gave so much last year, 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.319 but you got a lot because it was your first time, 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.880 and so you were because it was cathartic for you 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:50.760 because to go to this camp for the first time, 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.920 And I think this year you just gave. You didn't 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:57.280 get as much because you were giving. I think you 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.400 were working at the camp and you're on the board now. 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:02.880 I just think there's so many more layers now that 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.960 you're a part of this organization as opposed to something 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.480 so new and exciting. It was no longer your first 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:09.200 day at school. 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.640 Well, yeah, probably last year I had no idea what 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.680 to expect. This year, I knew what to expect a. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:15.400 Little bit more so. 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.120 I knew you were excited to go back to camp 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:18.199 and see everybody. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.000 I don't want to underplay my joy here. Camp was amazing. 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.720 I'm so close with all the counselors with the kids, 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.320 like to see there was something new and special this year, 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.880 and seeing the kids because now I know them, for 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.280 them to get off the bus and run and give 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.160 me a hug and be excited to see me, I mean, oh, 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.160 my gosh that I'll like hold that in my heart forever. 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:39.599 And I had a great time again and we have 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:41.880 you know, we laughed and cried and everything was great. 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:46.360 I was worried that I just wanted, I don't know, 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.640 I wanted to be emotionally present for them, and I 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.560 think I was, but I almost I almost want to 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.160 ask them like what do you want? Do you want 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:56.679 me to be strong for you? Or do you want 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.400 me to cry with you? And maybe next year I'll 0:09:58.440 --> 0:09:59.839 ask them that more because you. 0:09:59.880 --> 0:10:02.880 Just describe the toughest part of parenting, Yeah, is like 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.040 how to figure out and that's something we all do 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.400 as parents. There is tough love. Do I go that route? 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:13.079 Do I be their friend in this moment? Or do 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.680 I you know, it's like you said, how much do 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.760 I let them in too my own pain and suffering 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.079 to my own problems? Is that relatable? 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.640 Or is that like asking too much of them? 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.760 Asking too much? And is it? You know? So that's 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.360 that's always that line that I've had to walk as 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.720 a parent. I think you're definitely realizing the same stuff 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.840 at Experience camps because what you're doing is very maternal 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.560 there and taking care of these kids and your year 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.640 after year. Now that's the bond you're going to build 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:40.920 and you talk about them and you think about them, 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.160 and so when you get to see them again, what 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.120 do I want to give them now? And what's best 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.040 for them, because that's the that's the most difficult thing, 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.080 what's best for them to prepare them as they move forward. 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:53.360 Yeah, you're also struggling with I want them to feel 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.959 like they're getting this escape, this week away at camp 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.600 where they can be kids. And because you know, most, 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.440 I mean all of them have grief that they're dealing 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.800 with in their lives at home, and so we want 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.520 camp to be an escape and fun for them, but 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.840 at the same time, we want it to be healing. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.640 And so there's just this, yeah, this element of like 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.400 of finding that balance of how much it should be. 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:22.320 And I also think you're striking like how much how 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:26.319 much do you want them to like learn and mature 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.280 at this camp if that makes sense. Like, I know 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.600 that they feel good when they comfort each other. I 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.959 know that it helps them grow to comfort other kids, 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.680 to listen to other kids, and maybe even to you know, 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.120 listen to the counselors. And so how much do you 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.880 want them to grow there versus being able to be kids. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:43.959 These I don't have all the right answers. These are 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.160 just the things I'm pondering and the big questions. 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.359 So it kind of reminds me. I mean, on a 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.440 less dramatic scale, it's like when you ask your parents, Hey, 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.680 you know, dad, who was the president you know before 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.920 John F. Kennedy And he knows the answer, but he's like, well, 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.120 go look it up, son, And you're like, damn, but 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.760 just tell me the answer. And you realize by picking 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.720 up there are these things called encyclopedias. Go go, you know, 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.120 go to your computer, Google or whatever. But by reading it, 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.280 you're learning, and you learn a few other things, and 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.320 you realize why your parents did that to you. And 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.760 I know you struggle with the same thing of Okay, 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.360 how much do I want to just give them the 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.920 answer and help them through this hurdle in life versus 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.959 go out there, sit by the campfire, talk to your friends, 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.680 mingle and figure this out amongst yourselves. Now, I'll aid 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.120 you when it needs to happen, but try to look 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.439 up the answer on your own. That's always a difficult dilemma. 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.160 Yeah, And what is amazing is to see. I really 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:43.120 think I see the effects of camp now. Like I 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.840 remember how I was at these kids' age, at these girls' age, 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:52.120 at you know, fourteen, I was so not as emotionally 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:59.600 developed and mentally eloquent as they are. Obviously, grief has 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.760 aged them in a way that you know, a kid 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:04.760 who hasn't been through grief yet at that age isn't 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.720 And I hate that, but you see the effects of 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.559 camp because I know, like my brother was fourteen when 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:12.120 my dad. 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.199 Died, and this isn't a knock on him. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.360 He was just a fourteen year old kid who definitely 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:22.800 couldn't explain his grief and address his grief and deal 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.760 with his grief in the same way that I'm seeing 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.720 these girls be able to do. And that's a result 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.319 of them having gone to camp for a few years 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.840 and getting all these tools. So that was really wonderful 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.160 to see and just more love and a shout out 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.480 to the girls and their parents who I got to 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:47.559 meet and everybody had experienced camps. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.480 There were some great news while you were gone. The 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:58.640 higgins is Is are pregnant. I know, Ben and jesss 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:03.160 congratulations got they announced that they are pregnant and we 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.320 couldn't be more excited for him. I've talked to Ben 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.920 and Jess. We've all been we have our little text string. 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:13.360 We've been texting back and forth. Just so happy, so blessed. 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.240 I know she shared. Go listen to their podcast because 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:20.240 Ben ingested a special podcast the almost famous podcasts where 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.960 they kicked Ashley to the curb, They did their own 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.120 where they talked all about it. Go listen to that 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.400 and all have been on at some point, maybe even 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.520 Ben and Jess, and we'll kind of dive into the 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.880 parenting and what they're excited about. We're going to see 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:36.480 him this weekend. There's a big wedding in LA that 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:40.280 a lot of US Bachelor alums are going to. It 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.520 should be a very interesting wedding, a very interesting weekend, 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:44.840 but it'll be the first time we get to see 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.560 Ben and Jess and give them a big look for them. 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.160 Oh my gosh, I know I was at camp and 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:50.440 so I feel like I kind of missed out in 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.239 the text because I really try to not be communicating 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:54.640 on social media, and. 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.640 They're just going to be the most incredible parents and 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.440 a baby girl. I feel like Ben Higgins is strong girl, 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:01.400 dad energy. 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:06.880 Such strong girl, dad energy, and just they're just I 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:08.600 love Jess. I'm just going to talk about Ben for 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:12.320 a minute. He's such a dad. He already is such 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.880 a dad. If there was anybody who just what was 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.840 missing was the kid that's Ben. Uh. He is going 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.560 to be such a phenomenal father. And it's really it's 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:26.480 a bizarre speaking of paternal instincts thing for me when 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:31.840 I watch young men that were the Bachelor, Bachelorettes, whatever, 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.320 when they grow up, get married, fine love, you know, 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.760 whether it was on the show, off the show, start 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.800 having kids, start living the life that I've kind of 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.920 already been through. Is really I don't know why I 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.080 get so proud or get excited for him. You know. 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.000 I felt the same way for Ari and Lauren and 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.960 being at Wells's wedding, and now you know Ben's pregnant, 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.360 and Sarah Harrah and having a baby, and Andy Dorshman 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.800 pregnant and having a baby. I just it's it's so 0:15:57.880 --> 0:15:59.800 exciting for me to watch these people go to the 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:01.840 next stage of their life, to be a part of 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:06.920 that with them. I love that. So excited and congratulations 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.200 to Ben and Jess and Dandy as well. I don't 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:11.040 think we've given her a shout out on the show yet, 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.480 but she's expecting as well. Lots of Batcher babies coming 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:16.920 and this weekend is going to be interesting. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.120 Also in the headlines new cast of Dancing with the 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:26.480 Stars Season thirty three on ABC. I covered Dancing with 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.680 the Stars for years for entertainment. Tonight I went to 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.360 a fuel you did, Yes, you and I went together 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:33.720 when Hannah Brown was on. 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:34.280 That's right. 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.520 First reaction to this cast, I have to be honest, 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:44.480 I was disappointed. I'm baffled. I feel like last season's 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.440 cast was so much better. Season thirty two, you had 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:53.000 actor Matt Walsh from VEEP, Jamie Lynn Spears, Tyson Beckford, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:58.320 actress Mira Servino, Adrian Peterson from Real Housewives, Mauricio Yumansky. 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.160 Like these were big. 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.360 Names last season, Arianna from vander Pump Rules, Jason Maraz, 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.920 all these names that I like, I knew almost. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.600 Everyone on the cast. Okay, now you're season thirty. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.560 Three go through. Because I've kind of stayed away from 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.080 this list because I wanted to see if I know 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:13.560 these people. 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:17.359 I'll just read everybody, Okay. Phaedr Parks, she was real 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.399 hot that's a good name. Real Houses of Atlanta and 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.920 the Traders. She's she's a good solid cast. 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:22.280 Okay. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:27.600 Danny ammondola wide receiver. Okay, I believe he was the Patriots. 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.639 I've heard his name, so I didn't know him. Of 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.639 The Bachelor, Joey g Ilana mar but she was the 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:33.320 rugby player. 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.960 Oh, I love her. I've started following her on social media. 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.960 She was a part of our gold medal winning rugby team. 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.439 Also like relevant news, very. 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.199 That's that's a good poll. Sports Illustrated Swimsuit picked her 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:48.879 up to to do the sis Chandler Kenny. 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:50.879 I don't know that personally. I don't know who that is. 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:51.640 I don't know that one. 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:56.040 Anna Delvey do you know who that is? Okay? She 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:57.480 I do know who Annadelvey is. 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:02.399 She was the like swimler, alleged swindler pretending to be 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:02.919 an heiress. 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:04.399 She was convicted of. 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.520 Like oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.800 Getting money from people. She was. They made the show 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:10.080 Inventing Anna about her. 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.640 Oh oh okay, that's okay. I've heard that. I've actually 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:13.280 heard of the show. 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.520 Starts to get a little bit like huh okay. Also 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.399 Jen Tran, who is just the Bachelorette. But here are 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:20.920 the names where it starts to get a little bit 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:22.800 like I feel like these would have been great. 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.080 They put a Bachelor Anna batcherette on there. Yeah, well, okay, 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:27.440 they're having to double up. 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:29.240 Okay, what are your thoughts? 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.520 Good for the bachelor people, not a great sign for 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.480 the dancing people. Well, if you're having to use two 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:40.879 people from one franchise, although they may have made promises 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:42.840 that that had to happen to get people to do things, 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:46.800