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Speaker 1: You guys. First of all, let me say welcome, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the end. We've finally gotten here the Bachelorette Season sixteen.

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Speaker 1: The journey is over tonight. You know, it's been a

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Speaker 1: long journey because we started out with one bachelorette. We

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Speaker 1: saw her have her happy ending, and here we are

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Speaker 1: again at the end with another happy ending. What is happening?

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Speaker 1: We're back to normal Bachelor franchise in things? What is this?

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Speaker 1: What is twenty twenty? I think we're making up for

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Speaker 1: a lot, like all of the past seasons that didn't

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Speaker 1: work out. Yeah, well, I'm glad. I'm happy to see

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Speaker 1: a happy ending, especially with what twenty twenty has has been.

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Speaker 1: And it's great that I also say this that the

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Franchise was able to like set a precedent other

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Speaker 1: shows followed figure this out, you know, and work to

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Speaker 1: give us the show that we all know and love.

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Speaker 1: And you know, there was so much sacrifice, so much time,

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Speaker 1: so much just effort put into this season, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then the historic season that it is with Claire,

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Speaker 1: and then the transition to Tasia Claire said in her

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Speaker 1: from her only to follow the rules again, but to

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Speaker 1: give us another happy ending. So guys, quite naturally, it's

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Speaker 1: the end, So of course we're going to have the

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Speaker 1: happy couple. We're going to be sitting down with them

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Speaker 1: and talking to Tatia and Zach. Forget what you heard

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Speaker 1: and what the rumors were. You saw the episode last night.

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Speaker 1: Tasia and Zach are engaged. They're still engaged. We're going

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Speaker 1: into all of it. There's really no time to waste.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Becca, we've got to talk about what we

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Speaker 1: saw this episode because there was somebody else involved. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there was. As much as we want to just live

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Speaker 1: in the moment of all of this love that we

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Speaker 1: saw go down between Tasia and Zach, there was still

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Speaker 1: another guy, um, well two guys at the very top

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Speaker 1: podcast when we had Brendan, Like, we didn't think Tatia

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Speaker 1: you know, they needed one more episode to switch it

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Speaker 1: up at the beginning. So it was very interesting how

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Speaker 1: it all began, and I want to save the really exciting,

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Speaker 1: there's so much that I do want to ask them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, we talked about this Ben coming back, and

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Speaker 1: When you saw him walk into the row ceremony, when

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Speaker 1: what was going through your brain? You sent him home

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Speaker 1: of all of these different relationships. And so now that

427
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: you guys are well for, I want you back. How

428
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 1: has it been like watching it back? And how has

429
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 1: it been since filming ended and airing began? Like that

430
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: time from in between? Well, okay, so we saw each

431
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: other what maybe like we had the couple of days

432
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: right after airing. Yeah, so right after we got engaged.

433
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: It was actually my birthday, so we got to like

434
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: be with each other. So that was super fun. Please

435
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 1: told me you weren't in Lakeen too. They did not

436
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 1: keep you there. We're gonna go home. We're gonna go home. Yes, yeah,

437
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 1: we moved back. We were in La. It was really nice. Actually, um,

438
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: but I don't know, it's been kind of a roland

439
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: of like adjusting. Can we see each other every so

440
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: often and it kind of takes a hot minute to

441
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: like get back into like what we're doing. Do you agree? Yeah?

442
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: I mean for me, I just this whole world is

443
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: so foreign to me, you know, And so this first

444
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: episode happens and we're like there with Claire, We're getting

445
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: out of a limo, and I think that moment for

446
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: me was like, Okay, we're live, like this ship's real

447
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 1: now and I don't know what the hell I just

448
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: signed up for. And so going back and kind of

449
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: reliving that stuff has been a trip for sure. And

450
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: then once it got into our love story, I mean

451
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 1: that that was a blast and we had a blast

452
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: of that. And you know, to your question about you know,

453
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: what's it been, like, I think we've got a lot

454
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: of practice at having real conversation. It's just as things

455
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: would come up on the show, she would take a

456
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: minute and kind of say, hey, look this is coming

457
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: down the pipe. I want you to know I still

458
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 1: love you like this is and so like I didn't

459
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: really understand that piece of it, but she walked me

460
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: through it. So it was super helpful. That's really good,

461
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 1: Like kudos to Utah Shift for that, because I think that, listen,

462
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: this is this whole system is not really set up

463
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: for success, right, like meat, in such a quick amount

464
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: of time, you have to navigate all these relationships. The

465
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 1: person that you pick at the end of this has

466
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: to be strong enough and confident enough to withstand you

467
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: dating all these people all over again, even though you

468
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: you've passed it. It's very it's really really hard, and

469
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: so one of the keys to success is being able

470
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: to say, Hey, this happened. I'm gonna be honest about it,

471
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: but it doesn't change how I feel about you. Hey,

472
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: I had to be completely in this relationship to know

473
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: you were what I wanted at the end of the day.

474
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: But those conversations are not easy by any meat. Even

475
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: though like my heart is in the right place by

476
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: telling him and like I'm not second guessing anything at all,

477
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: Like I've never changed the thought, Like it's still really

478
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: hard for him to digest that, you know what I mean,

479
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: and then not only to just hear it come out

480
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: of my mouth, but then also watch it like it's

481
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: definitely absolutely it's a lot on a new relationship. And

482
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: add social media too, where everyone's fating your dms and

483
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: your photos and commenting. It's like it comes at you

484
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: at all angles. So it does take a strong person

485
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: and couple to really get through that and to navigate

486
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: it on your your own in your own way. Um,

487
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's like it's not easy. I completely

488
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: get that it's not. And like Rachel to your point,

489
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: like in including family and that like yep, I had

490
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: to talk to his ass parents and just like that

491
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: they asked or like anything was wrong, but I just

492
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: had to be like, I need you to know that

493
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: you're going to see a lot of things, and just

494
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: because that's happening, there's not takeaway from like what's happening here.

495
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: I remember I ran it back, I landed back in Jersey.

496
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: I was talk to my mom. She said, I just

497
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: got a message on Instagram from the Bachelor detective. I'm like,

498
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: hold off, and I got in the car and I

499
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: drove down a short I sat the family that I

500
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: was like, I don't even know what's about to happen,

501
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: but don't respond to nobody, you know, like, yeah, it's

502
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: nothing can prepare you for all of this. But that's

503
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: why it's so exciting when you see that you're able

504
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: to withstand all of this. And yeah, and I'll be

505
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: honest with you, you're honestly just starting. Because once you

506
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: announce yourselves, people they think they know they don't, No,

507
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: they don't. They people have their favorites. They they think

508
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: they know you and they don't know you, and um,

509
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: you know, you're really gonna have to be strong, you know,

510
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 1: and the united up front as you go out and

511
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: introduce yourself as a couple. It sounds like you guys

512
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: have really built a foundation, which is fantastic. Zach. What

513
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: I find refreshing and so interesting is you know nothing

514
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: about this world and yet you survived it and you're

515
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: successful in it. So how in the world did you

516
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: even get on this show? Okay, So the first part

517
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: of that I will tell you. As you know, I

518
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: was married and my first wife and I I think

519
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: watched three or four episodes of this show like years ago.

520
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,719
Speaker 1: Ali I think was the lady of the lead, Alie,

521
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: So that was that was my knowledge. So yeah, my

522
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: my story, I got there. It's pretty interesting. So my

523
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 1: my mom and sister watched the show, right and they

524
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: they also have been wanting me to find love for

525
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: for years now and it's it gotten to the point

526
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: where was the guys. I'm not going to talk to

527
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: this talk about this with you guys, because it's just

528
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: it's too much. And so my sister it's kind of

529
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: heavy to talk about. But she was pregnant with twins

530
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: and she lost one of the pregnancies. So she was

531
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: sitting at home when they started to recast totally like

532
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: super depressed, super anxious, so pregnant, and the way she

533
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: tells the stories. They you know, these these ads come

534
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: on like casting for the next season. And I guess

535
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: when Quarantine shut that season down and they decided they

536
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: were gonna recast, its screwed. I'm gonna I'm gonna go

537
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna send Zack's application in And she sent

538
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: me this text message and I said, Okay, good luck,

539
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: like have fun with it. And then next thing you know,

540
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 1: it was a Friday night. I walked in from a

541
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: long ass day of work. I was fried, and La

542
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: was calling. I'm like, who the hell is calling me?

543
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: I picked up the phone. It's a producer from the show,

544
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: and she said, is there any chance that someone might

545
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: have submitted you to this show? And then I just

546
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: really put one foot in front of another and I

547
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: think I got to college ju life first that I

548
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: was there whatever. Six days later, it was nuts, Oh

549
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: my god, you know nothing. You knew nothing about the show.

550
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean I knew there was roses, and I knew

551
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: you were you didn't watch you didn't watch any episodes

552
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: before you went on, because I didn't watch. I didn't

553
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: watch the show either before I went on. But then

554
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, let me do some research. And

555
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 1: then I cried and I was like, oh my god,

556
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: I've already signed the contract and I'm not going to

557
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: get along with these people. This is not me. So

558
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm always fascinated by the people who come on

559
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: and have never seen anything I did. Well, as you know,

560
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: we were quarantined when we've got to Laquita, and I

561
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 1: don't know, I had this thought to kind of go

562
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: into the guide and they actually had a couple of

563
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: episodes of the Goat like they were doing this what

564
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: did you see me? No, because it was were there?

565
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: I want Becca. No, I was not on it. But

566
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: didn't you go talk for Somebody? What do you mean

567
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: weren't you on Somebody season? Like no? No, no? Oh yeah,

568
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: I didn't uh for well no, no, no, to introduce

569
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: Claire season. Yeah, they had some of the past bat

570
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: shotts on, so actually that would have been that week, yes,

571
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: because they had me, Caitlin and Diana right as Claire

572
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: season was about to start filming. See, yeah, who did

573
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: I watch? It's not something smart. I don't know what

574
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: was the season with the guy that you know Chad

575
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: was a little out there? Yeah, okay, okay, yea, so

576
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: oh sorry did you finish that? I mean, that's what

577
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: I know, and I had I have terrified. Then I

578
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: love you. Personal play of mine, who I've gotten closer

579
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: than New York is actually was in JP's wedding. So

580
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: I had met JP a few times and so good guy,

581
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: right and good people. So for me, I was all right,

582
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: this dude's cool, Like he did it? Why why not?

583
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: And I did think a phone call to him, don't

584
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: tell anyone and kind of just talk to him about

585
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: his experience before That's okay, that's good. Though we all

586
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: did it. I know I did, and you know that's good,

587
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: like you were trying to figure it out, and JP,

588
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: I feel like you are similar in the sense of

589
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: like he wasn't really all about the show either, So

590
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: I want to focus on YouTube. But I just think

591
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: the story of how your sister applied you to be

592
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: on the on the season, not knowing whose season it

593
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: was going to turn into. Let alone, now that you

594
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: are engaged Tasia, like what what is your sister. What

595
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: is your family think about all of this? My family's pumped.

596
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta, I gotta say. By the way,

597
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: let me just preface this. He pauses a lot when

598
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: he speaks, so don't think it's like a negative thing.

599
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: Even he's thinking my dad, so I call him out

600
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: on this all the time. Anyway, continue on. Oh, I mean,

601
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: my my family's super excited. Obviously, they a couple of

602
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: them got the chance to meet Tasia during hometowns, which

603
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: was really special. And my mom is over the moon.

604
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: She's just you know, she's one of my best friends,

605
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: right Like I say that, my mom, my dad, we're

606
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: a best friend. So you know, for them, all they've

607
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: wanted for forever, it's for me to find love, you know,

608
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: So how why where? You know where? Like all that

609
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: stuff doesn't matter to them. So they're they're super excited.

610
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: And I think my sister selfishly is a little bummed

611
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: because she was pregnant right had the kids, so she

612
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: couldn't come out her hometowns because she had this little

613
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: child at home and she hasn't really been able to

614
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: be in the mix yet. But we'll get her, We'll

615
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: get Yeah. Oh, I mean that's that story in itself

616
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: is incredible. And now you know, she has one little

617
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,719
Speaker 1: bundle of joy that I'm sure some sort of like

618
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: something will trigger the memory when she looks at him

619
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: or heard, you know, think, yeah, I got my brother

620
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: on the show, and he found love. He found what

621
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: we all wanted for him. So I'm super grateful for

622
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean, like I would have never done it obviously.

623
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: And now a little baby Liam and and uncle Zack.

624
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: We're having this parallel process yea being born and getting engaged.

625
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I had a nephew born right when

626
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: I got engaged, literally the day before. Really yeah, yeah, Hendricks,

627
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: like we waited, helling my family because we wanted my

628
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: sister to have that moment moment before we told that

629
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: we were actually engaged. Yeah, oh my god. Well that's

630
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: kind of cool. And we're married now. That's exciting. Um. Okay,

631
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: So going back to the beginning, well not even to

632
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, because there was a lot

633
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: that went down those first couple of weeks, but after

634
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: going through all of that drama and the one ifs

635
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: and you don't know what's going to happen if once

636
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: Claire left with Dale, is there still going to be

637
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: a season or are you gonna go home? Like when

638
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: you saw Zach, when you saw Tasia entered the room

639
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: for the first time, what was going through your mind? Yes,

640
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: please shared the class. I mean, obviously physically I was

641
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: attracted off the jump, right, but that only carries you

642
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: so far. So for me it was excitement. It was

643
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: excitement about kind of a second, second opportunity, a second

644
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: chance to find love. I told myself coming into this

645
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: process that I was just going to keep an open

646
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: mind and try to be as authentic as possible and

647
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: not kind of hear the noise. So when Claire left,

648
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: I just saw that, as you know, another opportunity to

649
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: meet another human being and hopefully be able to build

650
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: a connection. So she comes in the doors, and you know,

651
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: I started sweating a little bit because she's very attractive.

652
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: But from there, you know it really I had to

653
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: see if there was something there on on on an

654
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: interpersonal level, and there was so uh that first night,

655
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: there was definitely some some sweat and then not just

656
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: from the from the heat out pull Spring's heat. So

657
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: when was the moment for both of you? I want

658
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: you both to answer where you felt the spark where

659
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: you were like, this could really be something serious, like

660
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: this could be the one for me. It was on

661
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: our one on one right, Yeah, I think it was

662
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: when we were jumping on the trampoline and like that

663
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: whole date was just Hay that Hay did that. I

664
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: hated you hated hated it. Well, I loved, I loved

665
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: the photographer. I felt like I loved I felt like

666
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: it was just so uncomfortable, and not just because I

667
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: was watching it, because I personally would not have wanted

668
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I just feel like they kept

669
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: putting y'all in uncomfortable situations. But Zach, you're very good

670
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 1: at making Tatia feel comfortable. So it worked and maybe

671
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: that absolutely your your relationship grow. But I hated it.

672
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: I will tell you I was. I mean, I think

673
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 1: I told you this. I was not really looking forward.

674
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was going to be into that

675
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: day at first. So like when I was doing I'm like,

676
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna hate this, Like it sounds fun to me

677
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: because I just like getting dressed up and doing all

678
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But like I didn't expect him

679
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: to think that he was going to like it as

680
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: much as he did, and he made me enjoy it

681
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: ten times more. And I was like, okay, wait if

682
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm like getting all dressed up and I'm making getting

683
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: these like bizarre suits, and we were just having the

684
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: time of our lives, like we could literally do anything.

685
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: Because he likes you. Yeah, you know what I mean,

686
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: that's the important thing, you know what I mean, He's

687
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice. Yeah, maybe his sad day. Yeah, No,

688
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean for me to one on one. You know,

689
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: as someone who walked into this process and didn't know

690
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: a lot about how these things go. There's so much

691
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: hype around the one on one, the one on one,

692
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: the one on one. So in my head, I knew

693
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: that it was a big deal. And I will say

694
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: that up until that, that was the first day that

695
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: I really felt like a human around her, because every

696
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: other time we talk before that, I was super nervous.

697
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: You know, it's these little spurts. So it was the

698
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: first time to really get some quality time with her.

699
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: And you know, for me, like I have the divorce,

700
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: I have the you know, the drug addiction and some

701
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: other stuff going on that I needed to come forward with.

702
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: And I knew that, but I didn't want to kind

703
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: of overshoot the mark early on. So that was the

704
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: time when I really felt like we got to know

705
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: each other a little bit more. And was that something

706
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: about the Ferish wheel at night? It was full feel good?

707
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: When you lost her rose? Yeah, that wasn't that was

708
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: a deal that we were freaking out but then we

709
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: found it? Did did? They showed that on TV? I

710
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: don't know what did you? Did you keep all of

711
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: your roses? Do you still have them? All? Yeah? I do?

712
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: All that's sweet. It's good to hang on to them.

713
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: Don't put them in books so because they'll they'll yeah. Um.

714
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: Another date I wasn't sounds so nig. Other date I

715
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: wasn't a fan of was the daytime. I love the

716
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: nighttime part of the hometown and Zak meeting your family,

717
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: which they seem lovely and just like so relaxed and really,

718
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: I just I don't there was something about your family

719
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: they were fan favorites. There's always one family that's are

720
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: a couple of families that were fan favorites, and your

721
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 1: family was definitely hit the mark on that without even trying.

722
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: It was very effortless with them. But I didn't like

723
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: the daytime part and it's not your fault. You're stuck

724
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: at the Laquinta, like there's only so much you can do,

725
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: you know, shout out to production for trying their best.

726
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: But I said it. I said it, you know, And

727
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: whatever I say, I'm gonna say to your face. I did.

728
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: Didn't feel sorry for Tatia about I didn't feel sorry

729
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: about you having to do your season at the Lakinza

730
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: until I saw the hometown dates, and then I felt

731
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: so bad for you because I thought it was creative

732
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: and it was sweet. But I felt bad for you

733
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: because there is something about like like Zach for somebody

734
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: who doesn't you know, you don't watch the show. When

735
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: it comes to hometown, the contestant takes control and the

736
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: lead follows and they get and it's like you're the

737
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: lead at this point, and you get to show like

738
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: where you grew up and where you went to high

739
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: school and your favorite thing to do in your hometown

740
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: and you go down memory line. It's really special. And

741
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 1: then you had the taxi, which I loved, by the way,

742
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw that out there. I love the

743
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: cheesiness of it. You're good, So you have to tell

744
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: him when you picked it up and you took and

745
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: you took six six feet well six feet I didn't know,

746
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: and it was cute and theory. But anyways, I want

747
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: to give you a chance. This is what I want

748
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 1: to do. This is I'm going somewhere with this state

749
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: with me. I maybe just rag on the date because

750
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: there was something sweet about it it. Let's just say

751
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: that you were able to go to New York City,

752
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: we're able to give her the Zach Clark experience. Hypothetically speaking,

753
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: what would you have done? What would have date a

754
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: date have looked like? Um, can you paint that picture

755
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: for us? Damn? Oh, it was gonna be off easy here.

756
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: To be honest with you you, I think I would do

757
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: the cheesy tourist stuff, you know, the Empire State the World.

758
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: I like that because because what happens is when you

759
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: live in New York City like I do, you don't

760
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: end up doing any that ship you know, like you don't.

761
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: You just see it and it's like, oh cool, Um,

762
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: maybe take a horse and horse and carriage in the

763
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: park and there's there's some things to do, yes there are.

764
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: And the food the food is next level, right, so

765
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: we I mean she can eat. I don't know if

766
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: I mean is that any So we thought in New York,

767
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 1: have you ever had a hot dog off the street

768
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: New York? No, you haven't done New York unless you

769
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: get the hot dog off the street stand. Well, I

770
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: haven't really ben in New York with them, or like

771
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 1: I went a couple of times, you know, I visited

772
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: Sydney for my season. She lived there, and so I

773
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: did a couple of things, like I went to go

774
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: see like the next play at Madison Square Garden, and

775
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: we did a lot of fun little things. But I

776
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: never had a hot dog off the street. So exactly,

777
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: this could be your next day, your first day hot

778
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: dog street stand. I missed the first day of my

779
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: internship because I had a hot dog off the street

780
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: in name, don't do it. Where in New York are you?

781
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: I'm on the Upper West Side, so I live on

782
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: a Yeah, I'm on the I'm like on the park

783
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: so okay, Well I used to stay down there first

784
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: a little like twenty blocks the clumb a sharp but yeah,

785
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: you got it, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool? You used

786
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: to come visit anytime? I love New York. Let's just

787
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: dump a hat since you just said we have to

788
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: come and are we moving to New York? Are we

789
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: making are we moving to the east, what's happening, what's

790
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: the what's in the big league? Taken? Return at that

791
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: the East Side. I'm gonna flip it on you, guys.

792
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: You think she can handle New York? I mean, I

793
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: think the jury is still out. Yes, she'll be fine. Kidding,

794
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: you'll be fine. You'll be fine, Well, Central Park, Upper

795
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: east Side, You'll yeah, it'll be perfect. Literally, Yeah, So

796
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be bi coastal. I'm gonna keep my place here.

797
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're moving in together. Where are we moving

798
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: in together? New York? So Christmas, New Year's that whole deal.

799
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're doing the thing be east. We're gonna

800
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: get her a little East and East coast holiday season.

801
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,959
Speaker 1: No return flight yet, but yeah, and we're just gonna

802
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: play by year. I mean, I'm excited to date her

803
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: and take her out and that you would typically do

804
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: if this was a normal relationship. And that's really important

805
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: to me. I said, I just want to just date me,

806
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: and like that's a I don't know, we have obviously,

807
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: we're already engaged. We kind of like you know, up

808
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: the project. That's what you do, you go back to

809
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: the basics things. Yeah, I was talking to a mutual

810
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: friend of ours, Rachel, so she told me a little

811
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: bit about you, Rachel and your husband, that you guys

812
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: did some strategy around living here and kind of tried

813
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: it out here and it all worked out. So we

814
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: stepped away from the spotlight because it is tough when

815
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: so many people people were not happy. They were very

816
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: negative about the fact that we chose each other and

817
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: our finales. So for us, it was important to go

818
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: back to the basics, go home, be around family, and

819
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,479
Speaker 1: really get to know each other without anybody else giving

820
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: their opinion, and that saved us. Like we didn't do

821
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: anything grant Like, we did a couple of fun things,

822
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: but we stayed out the spotlight. And I think that

823
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: it's key, I really do. I love that. I feel

824
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: like I love that my family is just being so

825
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: supportive and just been like please go and move and

826
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: like do what you need to do because you need.

827
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: They want me just to um. I don't know, like

828
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: it would be a normal relationship if I did meet

829
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: him and we were to be like bicoastal, I probably

830
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: would I wanted him go to New York lass November,

831
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: but I didn't work out. But look at it now,

832
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, but I love that circle. Gosh,

833
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: that's so cool. Yeah, it was supposed to Like I

834
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: was supposed to go in November. She spilled those beans

835
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: and like the first conversation we had, I said, Okay,

836
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: we're live New York because because New York or you

837
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: have basically you have to be based in New York. Correct, Yeah,

838
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: my business is on the East coast. Yeah, what we do.

839
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: But I wanted an addiction recovery company. So we have

840
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: uh true programs in the city, one for men and

841
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: one for women. Then we have another one in Westchester County,

842
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes north of where I live. So we

843
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: have forty beds in total. And then I do a

844
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: bunch of interventions and consultation work and whatever. You're gonna

845
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: try to help some people. When I came down and

846
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: I talked to Tasha, this is literally what she said

847
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: to me. I'm like, okay, so like, who's you know,

848
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: who's left, who's here? And she's like, oh gosh, Zach,

849
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: we've already said we love each other. It's Zach and

850
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: I was like, well, Dad, I mean, I mean, how

851
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: many people are still here already? So, I mean it's

852
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: so thin for me. I was asking around and it

853
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know, like tell me about this

854
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: Zac guy. You know, because I didn't meet you guys,

855
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: I know, I need nothing. I came in, I talked

856
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: to Tasha and that was it, and I got so

857
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: many compliments about you, Zach. It was he is a

858
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: great man. He's one of the greatest men we've ever

859
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: seen come through this show. I mean, like I was

860
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: so nosy about it, so and so I'm glad to

861
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: see like this all work out and it's to come

862
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: to fruition because I'll tell you like, even in watching

863
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: the show on the podcast, I was like, I don't

864
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: see the connection between them. I was like, I don't

865
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's because they weren't showing

866
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: it what, but on't here, I was like, I Zach

867
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: checks all the boxes. He seems to be amazing, but

868
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: I don't see the chemistry. And then god to Fantasy

869
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: Sweet Week and there was a twinkle, intatious eye looking

870
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: the same way she keeps looking at you now that

871
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, there hasn't been here

872
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: the whole time, and I just had these other weeks it,

873
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: I mean, and you're looking at each other that same

874
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: way now, and I really don't have a question. I

875
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: feel like I just wanted to say that as I'm

876
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: trying to move this along, I just wanted to say

877
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: that because I knew how she felt about you. I

878
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: didn't know if she got engaged. I didn't know how

879
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: it ended, but I knew how she felt and then

880
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: but then I didn't see it on screen until that

881
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: moment I was like, there it is, Oh my gosh.

882
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: And it's because it's different, Like I think what we

883
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: have is different, because even when I'm watching back, like

884
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: I kind of I'm a little more reserved when I'm

885
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: with you, Yeah, a little more shy and so and

886
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: usually I'm a little bit louder and a little bit

887
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: more bubbly. And with him, it was more of like

888
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: I knew I was in trouble because I knew he

889
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: had something that I've been looking for that I had

890
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: never found before. Yeah, but like I was too scared

891
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: to like even acknowledge that, like you might be really

892
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: good for me kind of thing, you know what I mean?

893
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 1: I'm always accused to being treated the wrong way. It's

894
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: so easy to make excuses when it's good because you're

895
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: not used to it, so you think something must be

896
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: wrong with it, and almost as if you don't deserve it.

897
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: And then it's kind of like, well, what if this

898
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: is how it's supposed to always be? And that's how

899
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: I feel. That's what I gather with you and Zach,

900
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, like this is what you deserved. You just

901
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: used to dealing withs of shit, you know what I mean.

902
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: And so it's like when it when it's almost like

903
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: you don't recognize it when it because you don't you

904
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: never had it before. So that's let's kind of how

905
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: I see it. So I want to piggyback off of that,

906
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: because so when we see you sit down with your

907
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: dad when he comes back after he's met both men,

908
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: and he shows up at your room and has this

909
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: really heart heart to heart with you, you know, and

910
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: really makes you think through like what is the best

911
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: decision for you? Obviously, we then see you go and

912
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: end things with Ben. But after that conversation, what was

913
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: it that made you all of a sudden so convinced

914
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: in your decision to send Ben home and know that

915
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: Zach is the one. Well, it was just I had

916
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: already had a feeling that I knew it. Again, it

917
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: goes back to like me knowing that Zach really does

918
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: possess a lot of the qualities that I was looking for.

919
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: And I think it's not that I think Ben is

920
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: an amazing man, but I just think that he checked

921
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: off boxes. Zachary checked off boxes that I was looking for,

922
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: and then some things like I didn't even know that

923
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: I wanted end when I was with him, I was like,

924
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: I want that. So it was just I think it

925
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: was that realization that just like kind of clicked with me.

926
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: Like it's like when you're with your I don't know

927
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: when you when your parents, you can't hide like they

928
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: know who you are. And I think like when I

929
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: was with them, it was just like I just it

930
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 1: clicked in my head. I was just like, I already

931
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: know what I want, So what am I doing? You know?

932
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: I was just honest with myself. Only surpris when you

933
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: find that right one that checks all the boxes that

934
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: you didn't even know we're missing, that's when you know.

935
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: I know. But the thing is, it's scary when that

936
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: happens and the like, and I'd said this a million

937
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: one times. I don't know if I don't think you

938
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: ever saw an interview, but it's just like he like

939
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: has everything, but like I don't know, like am I

940
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: ready for that? So I really like I know that

941
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: I on that, but it's like, holy crap, Like I

942
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: don't think people realize. Also, like I got the phone

943
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: call and I left, like I never really had like

944
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: the time to like, Okay, this is what I'm gonna

945
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: look for, like write all the boxes down and then

946
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: like know where I stand. I just donna went with

947
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: it and I was authentically myself and I put myself

948
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: out there and I knew what I had wanted deep

949
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: down in my heart, but like seeing it all in

950
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: front of me just like kind of like took me

951
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: by surprise, and it was like, oh my god, it's

952
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: actually here and so and Zach with you not knowing

953
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 1: anything about this show, and to be on a season

954
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: like we've never seen before. Like I don't know if

955
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: you know this, but there aren't normally two bachelorettes in

956
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: a season. It doesn't happen this way. Yeah, I hear.

957
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 1: Damar was the Encyclopedia when it comes to all things

958
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: Bachelor for the season, yeah, break it down late night.

959
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: There's always one. There were always Cereal. Yeah, there's always

960
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: that one who knows all the details. But I'm interested

961
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: for you because you just didn't know so much. And

962
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 1: this was hard to navigate because we had never seen

963
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: anything like this before, and there was so much drama

964
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: and there always is. How was it for you being

965
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: able to navigate all of that and then but stay

966
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: focused on what you had with Tatia? So I think

967
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: in many ways this season was almost built for me,

968
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: you know, I just where everything happened. I don't know

969
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: if I would have been a fan of the travel,

970
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: I feel like that would have taken away from the

971
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: real love story. I mean, for me, the way I

972
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: was able to think about the entire experience was for

973
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: all the reasons that they say, this thing's not going

974
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: to work right, it's so quick. It's you know, how

975
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: can any would fall in love in six weeks or whatever?

976
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: It is? For me? Right, I have this big, busy life.

977
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: Being given the opportunity to put my phone down right

978
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: and put the computer away and really just be present

979
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: was such a gift and once I did that and

980
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: kind of got comfortable without any noise around me. I

981
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: was just in the mindset that I was gonna be

982
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: open minded. So Claire comes in, and I mean people

983
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 1: asking all the time, like what do you think of Claire.

984
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: I don't really know Claire, you know, like I didn't.

985
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: I didn't get to know her. And that's not a

986
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: bad thing or a good thing. I just I didn't.

987
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: I don't know her. You know. It happened so quickly,

988
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: and then the funny thing for me is that that roast,

989
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: Like I think I was going home the next the

990
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,479
Speaker 1: next Rose ceremony, if there was one, because I kind

991
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: of I don't know, you went in on Dell. I

992
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 1: think I went in on Claire a little bit. Oh oh,

993
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: I've mad missed and and we love Claire here. But

994
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, you don't. You didn't know her. You

995
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: didn't know she had her eye on the prize. And

996
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: thank goodness, you know, because then you never good for her.

997
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: Have you seen Dale? He's very handsome. I mean I have,

998
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: I've met Dale. I have I've been around Dale and

999
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: Claire very very happy good So after that, I mean, look,

1000
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: it was it was a little bit of a reboot,

1001
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: and I'm a guy that loves the second chance. So

1002
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: Taitia walks in and I don't know I was talking

1003
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: about it. What was it with you or someone you

1004
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: were one of the pretty sure, that's all I can

1005
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: really talk to about, but just really trying to the

1006
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: best of my ability to not get involved in the

1007
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: other relationships that were going on. I knew there were

1008
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: some other really good guys there, so I can't blame

1009
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: Tasia for exploring all those relationships truly, and that made

1010
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: it difficult. But I hit a point probably when it

1011
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: was down to four of us, where I was like,

1012
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: these guys aren't my friends. They're all really good dudes,

1013
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: but I'm going to focus on this love story and

1014
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: see if it's the real deal. And it turned out

1015
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: to be, so yeah. One thing that was different with

1016
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: him was like he never asked any questions about any

1017
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: of the guys, like ever, you remind me of my husband.

1018
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: But I'm laughing because I know this is how you felt,

1019
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: because when you were standing there with Ben, you go, Honestly,

1020
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: I hope Ivan goes home. It's like, you know what,

1021
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 1: that's a very real comment. You know, nobody really cares

1022
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: you will you, I mean, you don't care about the

1023
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: other people they're You're there for Tasia. It's nothing personal, Ivan,

1024
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: But I'm here for Tasia, and if you go home,

1025
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: that means I'm closer to Tasha. Get cackled when I

1026
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: saw it, which we cross It crossed the line, like

1027
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: there was this point for there were sixteen of us

1028
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: and they were scrambling like anyone who says they this

1029
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: was like a planned thing. Like I was there, I

1030
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: lived it. It was chaos for like three or four

1031
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: days out there, and the sixteen of the guys that

1032
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: were left were kind of running around. They let us

1033
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: not be miked up a little bit, like we're having

1034
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: a good old time. Um. And then it hits the

1035
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: point when you get down to that ten eight six,

1036
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: like this is this is real, Like it shifts from

1037
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, growing out. I was gonna say, yeah, it

1038
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: always does. Yeah, it hit too harder, which we saw.

1039
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: I will say, I think we saw the change in

1040
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: you because it seemed for the most part you always

1041
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: got along with the guys. You are you are always respectful,

1042
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: never involved really in the drama. But I think it

1043
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: was like the moment Bennett came back and tried to

1044
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: touch you and you're like, don't touch me. I was like, oh,

1045
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: he's you know, now things are getting down to the wire.

1046
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: They're getting serious and he's in it for the girl.

1047
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: And I love how earlier you mentioned that, like usually

1048
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: the reasons why people go on the show, for the travel,

1049
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: for the extravagant dates, all those things, since they were removed,

1050
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,479
Speaker 1: it was made for you, because I think that's something

1051
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: that Rachel and I have been saying all season. We

1052
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: love that it's kind of gone down to the basics,

1053
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 1: like you remove all of that extra stuff and it's

1054
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: so much more focused on the relationships, which is why

1055
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: the relationship of the hour. I have to get into

1056
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: the proposal because your words to each other were some

1057
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: of the most beautiful, heartful, and I think it was

1058
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: probably one of the longest proposals we've ever seen from

1059
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: a season like I'm I mean and granted and hasn't

1060
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: happened recently because we've been lacking that, but yours. I

1061
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: think they just gave you so much time because you

1062
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: had these genuine, heartfelt words of affirmation to each other.

1063
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: So I have a two part question. First of all,

1064
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: Tasha when you were giving your speech, which I know

1065
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: that we we've all been there when when we're getting

1066
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: and engaged and we had to have to still keep

1067
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: the men on their toes a little bit. We can't

1068
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 1: give it all away up front when they show up. So, Zach,

1069
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: is you know, ready to propose to you? And you are,

1070
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, speaking back to him, and you pause and

1071
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: you give the butt in the middle of your speech, Zach,

1072
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: what was going through your head at that moment? And

1073
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: then at the end it feels like you guys were

1074
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: able to switch it and like really get into how

1075
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: much love and commitment and loyalty you have for each other.

1076
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: So how was it then to now rewatch that moment back?

1077
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: I didn't actually, I mean I I don't believe her man,

1078
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: like I was. I was thinking until she said no,

1079
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: I was all in, So I was so hopeful. I mean,

1080
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: there was a moment of kind of you know, gut punch,

1081
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: but it was short lived and she came back around.

1082
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't know it was so it's just an intense

1083
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: moment that it's hard to really put into words what

1084
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: was actually going on. I kind of blacked out, which

1085
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: is why it was Actually that long it was it,

1086
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: I did say, but and then I was thinking about

1087
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: the next words I was going to say, and then

1088
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: I kind of just blocked out, like, oh my gosh,

1089
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: this is actually going to happen, like right now. Once

1090
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: I like say like I'm in love with you, like

1091
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: really really in love with you, kind of took a

1092
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: month to myself my last single moment. It's kind of

1093
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: fun though, to still leave them guesses. You know, you

1094
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: can't give all of your cards away right away. I

1095
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: mean I remember, I feel the same. Like it's there's

1096
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: a lot of emotion in that moment, like you know

1097
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: what's to come, and you know probably that you're both

1098
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: in this and committed and I'm going to say yes,

1099
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: but there's still you know, some some little thing in

1100
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: the backroomr mind where like you know, is this going

1101
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: to be what I've you know, spent the past two

1102
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: months working for and like saying that I've wanted And

1103
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of emotion. So now being able

1104
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: to kind of relive that moment and watch it back together,

1105
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: how does it feel we were just watching it? Well wait,

1106
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: well yeah, we were just rewatching it before we came

1107
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: on here with you guys, and well, he's it's going

1108
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: to be bad if I call you much whatever. He's

1109
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: such a much like he loves he cries watching our

1110
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: love story all the time, and he was completely in tears,

1111
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: and I just like, just it was really good. We

1112
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: loved it. I will say I'm not really a prior,

1113
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: but Zach, there was I think the moment when you

1114
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: were like, you know, I'm going to be loyal to you,

1115
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: when you kept you use the word loyal and loyalty

1116
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: several times, I shot a few tears on my coach.

1117
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. You got me. We'd had long

1118
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: conversations about that on and off screen. I mean, you know,

1119
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: to the best of our ability off stream, but you

1120
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 1: know about loyalty, about commitment, about some of our past

1121
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: relationships and where they went wrong. And it was important

1122
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: for me in that moment to just let her know that,

1123
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, good times, bad times, whatever it is each

1124
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: more and I'm gonna wake up and choose her and

1125
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this together. And I'm a big believer

1126
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: in that kind of like ride or die energy, and

1127
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: we have that for each other. Everything's gonna work out.

1128
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: And I think, why this holds so much weight too,

1129
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: is that I don't know if we've ever had and

1130
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm not well versed in the history of Bastro Nation,

1131
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: but I don't know if we've ever had a couple

1132
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: where both of them have been married before, And so

1133
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: you bring more to the table because you've been here before.

1134
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: You know what it's like, You've gone through the heartbreak,

1135
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: you've ended a marriage, and now you are both taking

1136
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: that chance and at risk to open yourself back up

1137
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: and you're trusting one another with each other's hearts again.

1138
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: And it's that's what makes it so even more rich,

1139
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: not taking away from anyone else's proposal, my goodness, like

1140
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: we both had them on the show. It's just that

1141
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 1: it adds another element that I don't know if we've

1142
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: ever seen before. Becca, Have we Have we seen that before?

1143
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: I don't believe so. And again, like I haven't watched

1144
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: too many seasons before mine, but I don't think so.

1145
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: I don't think. I'm sure we'll get called out, so

1146
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: we'll find out very soon. There's nothing new with that.

1147
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: It's just I just really think it's so beautiful to

1148
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: watch it, and I think that there's so many people

1149
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: who are watching you guys and who are like, you know,

1150
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,959
Speaker 1: I've been married before and I've been scared to open

1151
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: myself up and I'm going to do it again or

1152
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, it just it adds this other element that,

1153
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: like I just said, we haven't seen on the show before,

1154
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: and I know you guys have touched on it. We'll

1155
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: wrap up in a few in a few minutes. I

1156
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: know you guys have touched on it already that you're

1157
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: going to be bicoastal, But it really sounds like East Coast.

1158
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: I mean that's what it sounds like. What does the

1159
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: future hold for the two of you? Like you're out now,

1160
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: You're like, what take us? Take us through twenty twenty one?

1161
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: My gosh, way to start off the year. You know,

1162
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: like to talk about a year? You know what I mean?

1163
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: You ended it well, you get to start out this

1164
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: journey together. The world's opening up, but then so are

1165
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: the two of you as this new couple up. It's

1166
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: poetic a lot. You know what that guy's something that's crazy.

1167
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: Well we'll talk about twenty one, but what's crazy is

1168
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: last New Year's. Like before I told my girlfriends, I'm like,

1169
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm with like this is my last

1170
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: single New Year's like, we have to go out, we

1171
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: have to do something fun. And all four of us

1172
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: were single. We went to Miami for New Year's and

1173
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: now Sydney has a boyfriend, Nicole has a boyfriend. I

1174
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: just got engaged and my other girlfriend. Where did y'all go?

1175
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: Because you know I wasn't by. I lived in Miami,

1176
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: last name where I was out and about, like, yeah,

1177
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: you know, I just moved to La. I've been in.

1178
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: Brian's still in Miami. We're bi coastal. I understand this

1179
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: whole thing. I understand. Oh my gosh, Okay, where were

1180
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: are we doing it right now? Yeah, we're bi coastal

1181
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: right now. But it's hard. It's like you'll make it work.

1182
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: It like it works. It's about the people. It's like,

1183
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: forget all the outside of pat. I mean, Brian's phone number,

1184
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: I will one hundred percent will give it to you

1185
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: because like, how old are you again? Thirty six? Okay,

1186
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: Brian was thirty seven he came on the show. I'm

1187
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: talking there's a lot of similarities here. Well, well, we'll

1188
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: make all of this happen, um, but no, we're talking

1189
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: out in Miami. We were at the one. I was

1190
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: at the one now that you were okay, one hotel.

1191
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: I was there, and we were at the Jonas Brothers,

1192
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: Like we had the VIP like tickets at the Jonas

1193
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: bout this concert or whatever that wasn't at the one though, No,

1194
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,439
Speaker 1: And then we went there aster. Yes, we started there

1195
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: for when the ball dropped, and then we were there

1196
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: at the one. We were there. We were there, we left,

1197
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: but we started out actually we started out the one. Okay. Anyways,

1198
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: the question was what is the future hold for the

1199
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: two of you? Take it each? Take it for me? Initially,

1200
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: it's all about we gotta do the family and friend thing, right.

1201
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: She's got an amazing family who had the opportunity to meet,

1202
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: She's got all these friends and she keeps talking about that.

1203
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm just so excited to get to know. So that's

1204
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: gonna be huge and vice versa for me. And then

1205
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: I think it comes back to just what we talked

1206
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: about earlier on dating and getting to know each other.

1207
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: And you know, you start to spend extended periods of

1208
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: time with each other, you're learning to live with another

1209
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: human being, and like, is the is the toothpaste on

1210
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: the mirror gonna cause some resentment that you're gonna get

1211
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: in a fight about it. You're just gonna wipe it off.

1212
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: Do you squeeze the toothpaste from the bottom up? Like

1213
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: how you know? These are things that a couple needs

1214
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: to talk about toilet paper. There's a lot of things

1215
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: I still have to discover with him, you know what

1216
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: I mean. And it's fun though, it's so much fun

1217
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: to figure all of it out. Yeah, I think the

1218
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: best part about all of that is that we know that,

1219
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: like our heart's in the right place. We know that,

1220
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: like all the big picture things, the conversations that a

1221
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: lot of people have like down the road, Um, we've

1222
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: already taken care of a lot of that. Our communication

1223
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: is phenomenal. So that's it. It's more so just like

1224
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, gosh, I like you guys together, not so,

1225
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: don't freaking disappoint us. I'm like, I'm not kidding. I

1226
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: like it. I like it a lot. That's gonna be

1227
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: really upset and I'm gonna have words. I'm gonna tell you, guys,

1228
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: don't disappoint I've seriously, it's I'm not I'm not worried

1229
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: about it, right, I'm not either um, I okay, we

1230
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: have a couple more questions and then we'll let you

1231
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: go live your lives because there's a lot of things

1232
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: that you guys need to know do as a couple

1233
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: and we don't want to keep you for too long.

1234
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: But first of all, before we even get into the

1235
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: ask a couple of questions, Tashia, you looked stunning at

1236
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: the finale. The dress, like the silver, everything was gorgeous.

1237
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: So I just have to tell you that you were glowing.

1238
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: There was a hot moment where I thought you were like, oh,

1239
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm ready for this, where I

1240
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: was like no, no, don't like jo't back out now,

1241
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: but but like beautiful, so beautiful. Um. I hate to

1242
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: be this person to ask you this because you will

1243
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: get it at least twenty four times every single day

1244
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: for the next year or two. But I want to

1245
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: be the first to be the annoying one to ask this.

1246
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: Do you guys? I don't even want to because I

1247
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: know how it feels like, but do you have any

1248
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: wedding plans? Any wedding plans? We talked about all this

1249
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: we talked about but like, yeah, no, let's date for

1250
01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: like at least a year and like learn to love

1251
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: each other outside of this whole thing and work towards

1252
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: a wedding in twenty twenty week did this guy two years? Yeah?

1253
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: Like you. Yeah, there's so much to do and to

1254
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: figure out so much. We're not in any much towards that,

1255
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, I feel like again,

1256
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: we have to date each other, enjoy joy either. I

1257
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: think she would go to an island or something and

1258
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: kind of keep it chill, like I I'm all for

1259
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: like the six hundred person really people, I love people.

1260
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: I want to do like I like a Wednesday to Sunday,

1261
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: come on, hang out. He wants the whole shebang, and

1262
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: I'm like just a little little bread hill Like that's me, Tysha,

1263
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And he's like, no, like

1264
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: where all your friends, like contact your kindergarten friends, Like,

1265
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: let's freaking go okay with that statement. If Rachel and

1266
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: I don't can invite, we're going to have real words

1267
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: on this podcast. Come to me, guys, people talk to

1268
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: me well, and you already domny photographers, you don't have

1269
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: to worry about that. Franko. He loves Franko. I love Frank,

1270
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 1: I love Franco. I'm more than more a Franco. He's

1271
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: in New York too, so I'm sure it will be

1272
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: our last time. Correct. Yeah, that's what I think. She

1273
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: saw a different side of me when I ran up,

1274
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: was like Franco and he's like, where do you live, Chelsea?

1275
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: New York. I was gonna be like, oh my gosh,

1276
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: Like Franko shorts were like something different and like I

1277
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: loved it, and I was like, let's just tap out

1278
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: with it. And he walked up, was like he hugged me.

1279
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: Franco hugged me and zactly like I don't get a

1280
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: hug and then Frank was like, of course you do.

1281
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:39,479
Speaker 1: And then they've just hit it off. Oh my gosh.

1282
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: That was another question. So well, I can let you

1283
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: guys go Rachel before well, Rachel knows what I'm going

1284
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: to ask, But did you have any last burning questions

1285
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: before we let them go? Um? No, I don't have

1286
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: any questions. I mean, I think it's you guys. Have

1287
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: you said it before. You've been communicating, so communication is key.

1288
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't have anything else. Yeah, and I

1289
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: just want to will be probably the nicest interview you have.

1290
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, you don't have any questions.

1291
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't feel like going there. I'm gonna be honest.

1292
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I'd be like today it stays

1293
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: been a day, So I just we both know what

1294
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: it's like to be in your position. You're gonna have

1295
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: so many people that are going to ask you about

1296
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: the moments before you got to the proposal, about the

1297
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: heartbreak before you got to the proposal. So, honestly, Becca

1298
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: and I don't need to do that. You're gonna have

1299
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: so many other people that are going to do that

1300
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: to you. It's uncomfortable. The important thing is that you

1301
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: guys are on the same page. We just want to

1302
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: bask in your love. Honestly, I don't. I don't want

1303
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: to go there. I don't want to go there. We don't.

1304
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: We don't need the click bait. It's shameless plucked. We

1305
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: don't need the headlines, do you know what I mean? Like,

1306
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: you guys are happy and in love. That's it. That's

1307
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: really yeah. And in moments in these next couple of

1308
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: days and weeks when you're getting grilled by press and

1309
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: you're being asked all these random, crazy questions so you

1310
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: probably don't want to answer at this point. Just go back,

1311
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: revert to like the moment when you knew like you

1312
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: were each other's person, like when you fell in love,

1313
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: and like why you made that decision, and just lean

1314
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: on each other. It's like you will be your best

1315
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: sources of comfort if you do have that open and

1316
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 1: on this communication. So I can't wait to see where

1317
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: life takes you too. I can't wait to come visit,

1318
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 1: hopefully in New York when once things open back up.

1319
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: But we have to end this because it's not only

1320
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: the end of an episode. It is the end of

1321
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: the season sixteenth sixteenth season of The Bachelorette, which is amazing.

1322
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: We made it, you guy. You guys did the damn thing,

1323
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: if I do say so myself. So to end this,

1324
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: I need to ask you both, what was your rose

1325
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: and your thorn of the entire season? I blast you

1326
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: know me too? Actually, maybe the heat was a thorn.

1327
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. No, we were both there. It was my

1328
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: brob was hungover when I came to you. Were you

1329
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: with Carrie Feman the night before reach? It wasn't him,

1330
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't his fault. It was yeah, Okay, let me

1331
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: think in all seriousness, Um, I think it's never fun

1332
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: to like to break up with people, but I knew

1333
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: I how to do it, you know what I mean.

1334
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the part, like I genuinely

1335
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: care about those men, and I feel like you're all amazing,

1336
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: So I think like that kind of sucked. Um. But

1337
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: the I mean, my rose is like finding him, but

1338
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: like not even just finding him, but like finding like

1339
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 1: a genuine, real love that I don't think I've ever experienced.

1340
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: I feel like it's like things that people talk about

1341
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: so like in fairy tales. So it's like I'm not

1342
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: kidding when I say, like it's something different. So my my,

1343
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: I love you. That's all I to see. My rose

1344
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 1: obviously is meeting my fiance Tasia. I love the secondary rose,

1345
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 1: which doesn't have anything to do with you. I'm sorry.

1346
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 1: Is I've really had a powerful experience watching the people

1347
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: who work on the show pull this thing off. And

1348
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 1: I think the unwritten story about our season is and

1349
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: and and probably the season they just filmed is like

1350
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 1: these human beings put their entire lives on hold, no family,

1351
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: no friends, no nothing to like come out and create

1352
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 1: this environment for us to find love. So I'll forever

1353
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 1: be grateful for that and all. I mean, I made

1354
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 1: so many good friends um with that maybe see whatever

1355
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: the production company, you know, like just really good humans

1356
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: and watching that like gave me, I don't know, some

1357
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: feeling of like we're gonna be okay in this world

1358
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: as a whole. Um and the thorn. I don't know.

1359
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't like wearing speedos and doing weird shit on

1360
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: TV like that wasn't cool for me, but I did

1361
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: it because Oh, who were you close with, Zach, Like,

1362
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: who were your close friends in the house. I love Kenny.

1363
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 1: Kenny was just Kenny. I had the same same case

1364
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 1: in music. So he was Tyler who went home a

1365
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: little bit earlier. Tyler Smith was a good hang. And

1366
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: then I mean literally Blake Brendan. But I mean these

1367
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: were all good guys. Ivan and Jordan's see, we had

1368
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:46,520
Speaker 1: some really um helpful conversations for me, and we bonded

1369
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 1: over these kind of like late night sessions talking about

1370
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 1: some of the stuff going on in the world. So overall,

1371
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: it was a really powerful experience just getting to connect

1372
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: with all these guys. I'm glad you had those conversations.

1373
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I wish we could have seen them, you

1374
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean, That would have been awesome. But

1375
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: what's important is you had the conversations and that everything

1376
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: is necessaris for television. It's for you to get something

1377
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:12,719
Speaker 1: out of it. So good for you, do you, guys?

1378
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: It has been an absolute pleasure. Like I said, I

1379
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what the future holds for you both.

1380
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: Whether it's going to be New York five babies one day,

1381
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: who knows. But I'm so thrilled that you guys took

1382
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: time out of what I know is probably you know

1383
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: a lot right now, a lot to take in and

1384
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: deal with with everything, And honestly, I'm sure you guys

1385
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: just probably want to get everyone the hell away and

1386
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: close those doors and spend some really cool time together.

1387
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: So with that, we can let you go. But it

1388
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 1: has been such a blast to have you both on,

1389
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: so thank you. But before we leave, don't worry all

1390
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: the hard hitting questions that you guys want to ask.

1391
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure Joe Natasha will so Zach is actually going

1392
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: to be a guest on the Clickbait podcast on the

1393
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: thirty first, So make sure you tune in because we're

1394
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:05,799
Speaker 1: gonna lay it all out. Yeah, that's the spirit. Oh, beccap,

1395
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 1: I'm into it. I started to see it at the end.

1396
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: They got us. I feel like they tried to not

1397
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 1: make us believe this was a thing. I didn't see

1398
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,839
Speaker 1: the chemistry. I felt like Zach was a good man, obviously,

1399
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 1: Tastia is a great woman. It wasn't until the end

1400
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: that I saw it. But talking to them, Oh, I'm

1401
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: so happy for them. They're so giddy, and I just

1402
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: they're so into each other. They're like, is it They're great?

1403
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 1: They're great. You know what I love about seeing them now,

1404
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: like together and being able to pick their brains about

1405
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: everything is like you said, they're giddy. They have this

1406
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: nice playfulness and this banter, but like they also are

1407
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: still I think, very grounded, and they balance each other

1408
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: out so well, which is like like a real relationship

1409
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: what you need. And so it's fun to see. It's

1410
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: not like I think they entertain it. It's not like

1411
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: all sunshine and butterflies and it's going to be like

1412
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: this perfect thing. They know that they're going to have

1413
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: to work for this relationship and like figure out where

1414
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna live, Like, what does the future look like?

1415
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: For us, but it was it was so charming to

1416
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: see them just finally interact face to face and be

1417
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: able to announce it. I remember that feeling how like

1418
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: just incredibly elated I was, And so I'm glad that

1419
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: they can that we were the first to have that,

1420
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,560
Speaker 1: that they can share it with us. Yeah, timing is

1421
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 1: definitely everything for that relationship. It in a lot of ways,

1422
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 1: it reminds me of me and Brian, and so just

1423
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: to hear them talk about certain things, they're very They're different,

1424
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: but it works and you can tell. And what I

1425
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: love in watching that interview is Zach allows Tatia to

1426
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 1: be herself and she allows him to do his thing,

1427
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: recognizing the differences, but knowing that together they're like this

1428
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: powerful force. So yes, stay tuned, guys, big things coming

1429
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: from that couple, And by that I mean a wedding,

1430
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 1: five babies, and who knows what else is to come.

1431
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: That couple is taken over New York City. I can't

1432
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: wait to see the first date if, like you know what,

1433
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: I might just be one of the paparazzi there just

1434
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:06,799
Speaker 1: to watch it go down and maybe get a bagel

1435
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 1: and get like a cute little cardboard taxicab walking down

1436
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: the road. I never want to see it again. I

1437
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: wonder where that is. Does the art department trash? It's trash?

1438
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: And if that ship shows up in Nimicolon, I hope so,

1439
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 1: I hope, so, Rachel, Now I know what I'm getting

1440
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: you for a white elephant gift. Okay, you know what

1441
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: ed with that? Close the show out? All right? Yes?

1442
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: Anything on that note? Anyone trash? You guys, I cannot

1443
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,879
Speaker 1: believe that we are here the end of yet another

1444
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: love journey. Would two in one season? Who would have thought?

1445
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,799
Speaker 1: You know when Chris Harrison always says the most dramatic

1446
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: season truly, this season sixteen of the Boucherette took the

1447
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: cake by far. And you know, coming from both of us,

1448
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 1: I think we both wish Tasia and Zach nothing but

1449
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: the absolute best. We can't wait to see where they

1450
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: go in life for the two of them. And in

1451
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: terms of happy Hour, we are going to be our

1452
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: own next week. We're going dark for the holidays, and

1453
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: although we won't be releasing another episode, we do wish

1454
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 1: you and all of your loved ones are very happy

1455
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: and safe and healthy holiday season, no matter where, how what,

1456
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: you're celebrating, so we were sending each and every one

1457
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: of you love this year, and we know that it's

1458
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,799
Speaker 1: been a tough one, so hang in there, and twenty

1459
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: twenty ones right around the corner. Can't wait. That's right,

1460
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 1: that's right, Becca, And listen you guys, we're taking some

1461
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 1: time off, some much needed time off, but don't worry.

1462
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 1: We'll be back. And you know what else, we'll be back.

1463
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: That's a franchise. They never stop giving you, guys what

1464
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,759
Speaker 1: you want. A new season is just around the corner.

1465
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: The Bachelor season twenty five, a black Bachelor, finally nineteen

1466
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: years by the time twenty twenty one rolls around, Yes,

1467
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: January fourth, people, we are back, Mondays, thank goodness, because

1468
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: I know it's been a bit confusing there with Matt

1469
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: James this season. And we'll be back, of course, with

1470
01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 1: a brand new episode of Happy Hour on Tuesday, which

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Speaker 1: is the morning after. Oh and of course we're going

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Speaker 1: to have a very special guest because we're back. New year.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say new us, but new year,

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Speaker 1: new season, new guest. And in the meantime, you can

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Speaker 1: keep up with us on social at Bachelor Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, and at batch Happy Hour on Facebook and Twitter,

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Speaker 1: And as always, don't forget to subscribe to our podcast

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Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you're listening to this

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Speaker 1: right now. Guys, we will see you later. Have a

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Speaker 1: very happy New Year.