WEBVTT - Best Bits: Making Adult Friends, Facing Burnout, & Too Many Appointments 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.720 The Best Bits of the Week with Morgan. 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:03.920 Part one. 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:08.240 I hang a scene with a member of the show. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.760 What's Up Party People. It's Saturday morning, and Mike Dye 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:13.920 is joining me. Hello, Bike, Hey are you? 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:17.080 I'm good If you hear my voice a little bit differently, 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:18.400 that is because they have a little bit of a 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:18.840 head cold. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:20.639 So we're just gonna ignore that. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:22.240 Okay, That's why I asked, how are you. 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:25.479 Yeah, we are. I'm bundled in a blanket right now. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.840 I'm either incredibly warm or incredibly hot or incredibly cold, 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:31.640 and there's no in between in my life. 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:32.080 Right now. 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.319 I usually run cold, Like I usually get cold more 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:36.000 than I get hot. 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.120 Really, you don't like ever like sweat profusely and you're like, 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:39.839 holy cravity. 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:42.120 Not really. I'm usually on the opposite end, like it 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.720 could be like sixty I'm freezing in. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.479 Here, Okay, after feeling that lately, especially as I get older, 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:50.400 do you think that's the thing is we get older? 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.640 Yeah, i feel like I'm withering away. My bones are like, 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:53.800 that's too cold in here. 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.920 Yeah, because whenever I go to the retirement home, it's 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.120 always so warm, like so. 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.560 Warm, and I'm like, maybe that's the thing because we 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:03.160 get older and then you get colder. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.640 Because I also find myself driving with like nothing, no acon, 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.800 no airflow whatsoever, and my wife hates it. I'm like, oh, 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:14.440 I like thrive in the warmer, just like car environment. 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.000 That's funny too, because most of the time it's always 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.640 the dudes who want like the air on below sixty, 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:22.959 you know, in the house or in the car. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:24.560 That's interesting. 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:28.000 No, I like it just warm and muggy. I guess do. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:29.680 You guys spide over the temperature in the house. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.479 No, not really, because I've kind of gotten used to it. 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:35.160 But I think it's more so in the car, like 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.680 our sides of the car complete opposites. 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.559 So she gets really hot and you get really. 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:42.520 Goodah, She'll crank it down all the way and then 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.080 I'm like, keep it like seventy two. 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.800 So what do you guys keep your house hat most 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:47.240 of the time? 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:48.680 Probably like seventy four. 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:50.800 Okay, that's not an invent. 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:52.960 My wife also likes to save money, so she's like, 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.040 I'm not expecting that much money on like tristity to 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.240 keep it cold. So that's kind of where the balance 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:57.640 comes in. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.000 Okay, I see it. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.760 I need an update have you gone and done a 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:04.680 run club and have you made any new friends in 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:05.320 a red club? 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.240 I have not gotten to a run club. I have 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:11.160 not made any friends. I've said hi to more people 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:11.919 on the trails. 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:13.680 Okay, this is improvement. 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:15.880 Like one of them happens to be like a sixty 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.760 five year old man who crushes it. But I finally 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.720 got him to like acknowledge. 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.160 Me before he just ignore you. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.000 Yeah, And he's the only person I've seen consistently for 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.880 the last three years, and he like runs faster and 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.880 more than I do. And I'm always just impressed by him. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.720 But he would just like keep going straight along. And 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.120 I've had at least had him acknowledge me. 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:37.680 Did he give me like the head nod? 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:39.640 Kind of like the head nod wave. There's like a 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:40.280 runner wave. 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:41.600 There's a runner wave. 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.160 Yeah, what is it? It's kind of like just to your side. 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.640 You either do like a quick little like it's kind 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.280 of like putting out your fin That's funny. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.960 It's probably because like if you're moving, you don't want 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.880 to like full wave. Your body is going forward to 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:55.520 the momentum. 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:56.040 Does it make it? 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:57.720 Yeah, I just to quick just. 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:59.480 It's kind of like a salute, but not. 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.600 Yeah the quick because like walkers usually like to say hello, 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.880 and they'll do like a full wave. Bikers don't say 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:07.880 anything to you at all. They'll just try to run 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:09.919 you over or yell at you or on your left. 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.320 But I feel like there's a bond between anybody I 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.880 encounter who is running because you like feel that same pain, 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:16.679 You feel that same like, oh, you're going through it 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:18.679 right now. So they're just that runner's wave because you 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.880 don't want to put too much energy into saying hello, 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:22.400 because it's like you're trying to conserve it all. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.840 Isn't it funny how we have humans have created so 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.760 many different variations of like hello's. Like there's the jeep wave, 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.639 there's the runner's wave, there's the head nod, like all 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:36.520 these different lines of communication. 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.720 Yeah, because there's also a Mexican high where it's you 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:41.640 throw your head back. 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:43.440 Wait, so you don't do like the head nod. 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.920 No, it's the opposite of the head nod. You literally 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.000 throw your head back, your head back. Sometimes you add 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:49.720 in the arms, like that's a little bit more if 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.320 we're trying to fight them, But sometimes just the head 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.200 nod is like a salute to maybe it's some Mexican 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.760 dude thing, but I feel like I've seen some ants 0:03:57.800 --> 0:03:58.760 do it as well. 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:04.720 Like I've seen some ants throw hands. That's funny. It's 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.840 so crazy. Humans are wild. It also like who starts 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:10.680 that one day? You know what I mean? 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.880 I mean it's I think it's just like animals too. 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.320 Like animals have different ways they say hi, So humans 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.480 have different ways they say hi. Like dogs sniff each 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.800 other's butts. We do, weird waves, we do. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.359 We've added so many different things. It was funny. I 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.960 follow the account Good News Movement. 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:26.760 Have you heard of that? 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:31.080 One they posted a video of these two guys in 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.560 Argentina and they were on the street in their cars 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.360 and they were like yelling at each other from their 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:40.240 cars and they're like angry over road rage. And then 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.600 as they got closer to each other, they realized they 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:44.400 were friends and then like hugged each other. 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.359 I was like, that's such so weird. 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.440 And then you see the wives come out of the 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.960 cars and also like embrace each other, and I was like, 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.520 what an interesting way of approaching each other. And it 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:58.200 was like all in the comments was like, oh yeah, 0:04:58.200 --> 0:04:59.599 this is the Argentina way. 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.440 That's why I don't have road rage, because I always 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.719 worry that it's going to be somebody that I know, Like, 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.960 especially like leaving work, I'm like, I'm not yelling at anybody, 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.800 honking at anybody. His chances are we like pulled into 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.599 the same garage, like, oh crap, they both work here. 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.559 That's for sure happened to me before. 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.800 We're like we're going to the same place, or like 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:20.960 if you're fighting over kind of a parking spot and 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:22.880 who's gonna get it, and you get it and. 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:24.720 Then you end up walking in at the same time 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:28.400 and you're like, oh, this is awkward. Yeah, that happened 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:29.599 to be at Pilatis the other day. 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:31.120 That's really awkward. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.560 Yeah. So, like there was two spaces, but one of 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.680 them was a handicap space, and scrumpled into the handicap space. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:37.760 I don't know if she thought I was trying to 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:38.640 fight her over, but I. 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.040 Was like, I know that's a handicap space, but sure 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:43.760 you can have it. And then like I pulled into 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.720 the other one and we like literally start walking in 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.160 at the same time. I was like, I feel really 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.480 uncomfortable because like you might get a ticket, but it's fine. 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:57.480 It was an awkward moment. Okay, Mike, I need updates 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.520 on life. How's your wife? Kell's see, how is life 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.920 in general? Any new things going on? 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:08.400 We are good right now. I think I've been focused 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.520 on the word I told you was going to be 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.000 my word of the year. Invest Yeah, and I've been 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:17.279 taking time to invest in myself. And I think it's 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:21.960 because in this industry, in any industry, you go through 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.480 burnout where you just feel like, man, I'm doing the 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.279 same thing over and over again. Everything's still great, but 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.000 I kind of feel like I want to do some 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.680 more things that are for me, and I think I've 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.880 done that in the last month of focusing on the 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:36.960 things I've been wanting to do for a while, and 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.840 that has been primarily with my podcast and trying to 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:41.839 branch out a little more. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:42.000 So. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.400 I've taken on some events that I never thought I 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.040 would do, Like I hosted my first movie screening. I 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:51.240 saw that, which was kind of taking myself out of 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.640 my comfort zone, but also what I'm comfortable with because 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.760 I've spent time on a stage. I've done things like that, 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:01.440 just not in that capacity. So it was nerve wracking 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.840 but also comforting At the same time. Yeah, And I 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.280 think just taking time to do things like that, it's 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.360 kind of how I break out of that burnout of 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.400 feeling like, Okay, I still have all these other things 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:14.240 I need to do, but I kind of have to 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.080 prioritize some time for things that I want to do 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.960 that make me feel like alive, because I think we 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.040 just start doing things over and over again and we're like, man, like, 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.120 I feel like I haven't done anything for myself in 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.800 a while. It still works, though, so I'm still doing 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:31.280 things like career driven, but it just kind of feels 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.960 like afresh, just like ah, this feels good again. 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.920 Yeah, you becoming that routine of the work to live 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.800 rather than like living and working, and. 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:42.760 It's not a fun place to be. 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.080 When that starts to happen, you feel like you're missing 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.440 out on a lot of life and you're like things 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.160 are just passing you by, and you wake up it's 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:53.920 like three years later and you've missed everything that happens. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:58.040 Yeah, the time passing is just crazy when you get 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.920 older and you just see like man, years have gone by, 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.320 Like what do I have to show for it? Yeah, So, 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.480 in like the last month, I've kind of just been 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:09.320 just focused on that doing more interviews with my podcast, 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.640 which is something I've just been trying to get better at, 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:16.400 and I just find myself at times feeling like I 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.160 suck at it, but I know that I need the 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.080 reps to be able to do it more. 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.680 So, you feel like you suck at interviews? 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.400 Oh yeah, I feel like I suck at everything anything 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.200 I do on my own. I feel like I suck 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:29.960 at and you. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.600 Don't let me reassure you that you don't. Your interviews 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.520 are awesome and you're great at what you do. But 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.360 I also understand like this, uh it's called imposter syndrome. 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:43.760 Yeah, I don't even know if exact exactly if it's 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:48.040 imposter syndrome. I just feel that I'm somebody who gets 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.760 so prepared, like I'm over prepared for an interview. I 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.480 read all about the person for me, I have to 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.080 watch a movie for every interview, which I love to do, 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:58.439 and that's like my favorite thing. And I feel like 0:08:58.480 --> 0:08:59.880 I get in my head too much of like, oh, 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:02.040 I have all these perfect questions I want to ask, 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.800 and then in the moment, I'm like I lose myself 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.240 and I'm like I don't know how I take how 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.719 I feel about things and translate it back into here 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.440 without me sounding like an idiot, or without me getting 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.880 to everything, or without me feeling like I didn't have 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.040 a good conversation at the end of it. So I 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.240 still feel like there's a learning thing I need to 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.480 get over in that process. When I listen back to them, 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:24.959 I'm like, Oh, it's not as bad as a fella 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:26.560 in the moment, Like in the moment, I feel like, oh, 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.000 I'm ruining this right now, and then later I listen 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.079 back or cut clips from it, and I'm like, Oh, 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:32.640 it's actually not bad. 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.240 I feel like there's two things I've really learned when 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:41.240 it's come to interviews, and one being you. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.560 Can never be weird for geeking out. 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.679 People love when people geek out, even if it's over 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:51.240 them or over something they did. Like. People love seeing 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.000 people being passionate, especially if it's about things that like 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.960 there's similar things that they're also passionate about. 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:58.280 So I don't feel like. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.720 You're ever gonna look stupid for like sharing your feelings 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.440 and thoughts as you're like processing something. I think that's 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.920 one thing that's kind of a misconception about interviews because 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:12.120 we especially when, especially for you, you're gonna get actors and 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.760 these people that you've probably looked up to or watched 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:18.200 a lot of their stuff. I think so much of 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:22.280 what they do as an artist wants to be seen 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:26.000 in that way. They'd rather someone be so excited and 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.240 passionate or like have a lot of questions about what 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.000 they've done, then somebody who just comes to and says, 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.400 this is really cool, you did a good job. 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:36.160 Can you tell me why you came up with that? 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.000 You know what I mean? So you can never not 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:39.880 geek out enough. 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:45.400 And two, throwing out the questions is sometimes better and 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.360 just allowing yourself to have a conversation with another like 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.280 human being and just existing within that moment rather than 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.880 being like, I have to hit all of these things, 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:58.440 whether it's for fans of the movie or fans of 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:02.400 a certain type of thing that's that person is involved with. 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:06.520 Like sometimes throwing out that role book of these are 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:07.760 important things to get to. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:13.040 Is necessary to get to, like a really good interview. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.680 There's been times where I've like prepped for interviews and 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.640 it will just go in a completely different direction. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:19.720 And it's worth it. 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.560 It's always been worth it, and never once where I 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:23.959 was like, dang, I should have stayed on my track. 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.200 I was like, no, we got somewhere so much better 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.719 and so much deeper. So those two things are things 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:31.560 that I feel like I've really learned in interviews. 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:33.360 I don't know if that helps at all. 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.200 That's good advice because I think listening to you say 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.200 that and thinking of like how I would go into 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.400 some of these is I would try to emulate some 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.439 of the people I like a little bit too much, 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:46.200 because there's some interviewers that I like that get to 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:49.720 the point really quickly and ask questions that I'm like, ah, like, 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.080 that's just a great formulated question, And I think I've 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.960 tried to do that too much, where I'm like, I 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:57.640 need to scale it back because I need to think 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.000 about how I approach even how I talk about movie 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.760 where it's more from a place of passion in a 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.120 place of like how things make me feel. I was like, 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:06.640 I got to focus on that more. I got to 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:08.400 stop trying to be the guy who's going to ask 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:12.080 questions that is going to like rattle them or blow 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.319 their minds a little bit of like, oh, he went 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.679 into this amount of depth for this question. I think 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.640 I got to get away from that and just talk 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.720 how I talk about stuff on my podcast. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:23.959 Yeah, because it's also hard. 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.800 Sometimes getting to the point leaves out a lot of 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:31.200 the like vulnerable good moments. Sometimes when you just make 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.160 him like get to this like very like yes, it 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.000 may be deep and maybe like, oh I've never heard 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:40.640 that question before, But most of the time when you 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:44.520 allow them to just like be passionate and excited that 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.400 you end up getting stuff that they would never say 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.040 anyway because they're excited and they're passionate. 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:50.679 Yeah, I think you nailed it right there. I'm always 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.120 trying to like, I think that's the best thing as 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.720 an interviewer is somebody saying I've never been asked that before, 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:56.640 and I've been chasing that too much, where I'm like, 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.320 I'm getting way too specific. I'm just trying too hard 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.840 in that capacity. Yeah, I need to just ask them. 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.839 Sometimes it feels like you're not trying as hard when 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.679 you ask more simple questions. But sometimes I probably just 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:14.000 keeping it simple just helps it breathe a little bit. 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.480 Yeah, And I don't think here's the thing too, Like 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.880 there is probably a side of this where you're interviewing 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.240 people who are on these circuits and they're getting so 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:24.559 many of the same questions. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:26.600 But I think when you get. 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.240 To geek out is when you start asking questions that 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.880 they've never heard. Because so many of those people who 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.160 are in those circuits are in the media and they're 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.920 not watching or they're not really in depth into the 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.839 movie space. They're probably more involved with them as an 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.600 actor or as a person. So them getting to like 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.720 really geek out about like their art and their project 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.280 is going to be something that they're not having much 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:53.200 experience with already. So you leaning into that side, I 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:58.160 think is gonna accomplish that without trying. I don't know 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.559 if that makes any sense. It does since in my brain, 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:01.400 as obviously. 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.240 It does, because that is the battle I have is 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.040 they are on circuits where they're doing one after another 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.600 for two to three hours, and I'm like, they're probably 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:10.920 burnt by the time they get to me. They've been 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.040 answering the same question over and over. But there are 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.040 certain questions I need to get that I feel are 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.120 the best representation. I'm like, gosh, how do you do it? 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.040 And then I also get shorter amounts of time. It's 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:23.840 like ten fifteen minutes most times because they are in 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.200 these circuits and it's like very limited. So I'm like, 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.320 I gotta just come right out of the gate and 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:30.480 try to get something out of them quickly. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.280 Yeah, I think maybe more of a strategy. It's like 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.600 you ask your two things that you have to ask for, 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.040 like necessity, and then you just start geeking out, especially 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:40.880 if you love something, if you watch something and you 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:42.520 were so excited about it. 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.000 I know there's sometimes you watch no, it wasn't very good, 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:46.800 but you watch. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.720 Something you get excited about it, and you have an 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.360 interview with one of them be excited about it. I 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.160 think we get so caught up in this idea of 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:58.440 like trying to work in other people's perceptions, and the 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:00.720 best interviews are always the ones or you just be 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.360 who you are and allow that to come through. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.280 Those are the ones that are people enjoy listening to too. 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.480 That is something somebody asked me recently on I think 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.760 they do a dm me on Instagram is what do 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.080 you do if you don't like the movie they did? 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:15.080 Yeah. 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.200 I find that I've been lucky that most everybody I've 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.440 interviewed I've actually enjoyed their work is because I find. 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.880 If I don't, I usually won't take it because it's 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:27.520 really hard when it's so focused on the movie to 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.600 not like it. It come from a place and it 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.640 depends because I feel like I could find something in 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:34.440 anything even if I didn't like the movie. I could 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:38.400 find something of the elements of filmmaking or other work 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.800 that they've done that I could ask them about without 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:42.880 me saying that I didn't like this movie. It's really 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.560 hard to do, so I don't normally do that. But 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.640 for the most part, I think there's something you can 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.680 find in anything even if the project is bad. But 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.640 I won't lie and say that I liked the movie 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.800 that I didn't like and I won't give it a 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:57.800 good review if I did it, I just kind of 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:58.920 will tiptoe around it. 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.400 Yeah, I like other ways to talk about different. 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.120 Pieces because also like somebody will like it, Like if 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:06.920 I don't like it, somebody else will like it. And 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.440 I think that's always the perspective I try to give 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.760 in my reviews, like I hated this, but if you 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.280 like so and so, you might enjoy it. So I 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:18.400 don't try to ruin other people from enjoying something. I 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:19.720 just give you my honest opinion. 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:24.200 Yeah, you and I have had various like opposite reviews 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.720 on a lot of things, but every time I'm like, no, 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.120 I respect it, Like that's a fair point. 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.120 But also I still feel the way that I feel. 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.840 I think that's why I like doing this is because 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.880 it is subjective. Like just because I say I like 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.880 something doesn't mean that that thing is actually good. Yeah, 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.040 you could watch it and hate it. That's why I 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.440 enjoy and I enjoy the debate of people who like 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:47.840 something that I don't like or don't like something that 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.120 I like. That's what makes it fun. And also, like 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:54.040 when you're talking about movies, it doesn't feel as rage 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.440 feel when you're like arguing about politics or something, because 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.320 it's like nobody's right here. It's it's all fiction. Yeah, 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.360 nobody's gonna yeah, there's no real true it's all opinion. 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:07.320 Yeah, there's not a lot of like you don't have 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:11.200 like punishment for feeling how you feel. Okay, we're gonna 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:12.639 take a quick break. We're gonna come back and get 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:18.160 some more updates from Mike. We got on a little 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.159 rant there about movies and topics, which I know is 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:21.720 fun for you to always talk about but I know, 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:23.879 like you also have your own podcast about that, so 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.359 I try and avoid it. I do want to hear 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:28.480