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Fox Sports Radio, 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: up on this Tuesday edition, of course, we're gonna have 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: Dean Blandino stop by. There's all sorts of questions we 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: got about some of the rules, some of the infractions, 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: some of the penalties called in the NFL and college football. 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: This weekend, we're also going to have a conversation about 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: double barrel action in the NFL. On Monday Night football 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: Bear's win. Was it a statement win for Ben Johnson 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: and what he's trying to pull off there in Chicago? 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons get it done. Bjon Robinson potentially the 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: best player in the NFL according to his head coach, 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: and are the Bills concerned? Plus Mike Tomlin's concern about 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: what the hell the Cleveland Browns are doing. We're also 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: going to have the very latest on the search for 26 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: a head coach in state college as well as Nashville. 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, all of it is yours coming 28 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: up next here. 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Don't stop there at the 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: thumbs up icon. Comment away, let us know who on 41 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: the show you agree with, who you think is completely wrong. 42 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: But checking out our new channel on YouTube again, just 43 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: search two pros FSR and subscribe. 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 4: So uh so uh so uh it's Jonas Knox here 45 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 4: Penn State. 46 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: So you're really going to do it? Huh? We're still there. Huh. 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: Well I'm still doing this, still doing that. Huh. 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: Penn State is looking for a coach and lot going 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: on there. Pat Craft is talking about, you know, James 50 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: Franklin's record in big games being a problem, that they're 51 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: there to win national championships, very fired up. And then 52 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: you've got Matt Ruhle, former teammate of LeVar Arrington, now 53 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: the head coach of Nebraska, who, of course you knew 54 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: was going to be asked about the situation yesterday, and 55 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: so here what does the now Nebraska head coach, Matt 56 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: Ruhle talking about his fondness for his alma mater and 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: also where he stands with Nebraska. 58 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: I love Penn State. 59 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 5: I met my wife. There's Milema Mater fan since I 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 5: was born. I was born I think probably at a 61 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 5: Penn State shirt where I was born. I love Pat 62 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 5: Craft and I'm really sad, really sad to see coach 63 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 5: Franklin go. When you think about what he did for 64 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 5: mile Ma Mater. You know the program was in peril, right, 65 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 5: I mean, if people remember, like the historic sanctions that 66 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 5: you could transfer out and could do whatever you want. 67 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: Bill O'Brien comes in. 68 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 5: Stabilizes it for two years. James takes over a program 69 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 5: in disarray and gives stability excellence. You know, see videos 70 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 5: of people like yelling at his kids, And I just 71 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 5: don't understand why in our country like well now, like 72 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 5: coaches are villains, Like you know how hard I worked 73 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 5: in Carolina and the things that were said to me 74 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 5: are you know how hard I work here? And some 75 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 5: of the things that are said, you know, our coaches 76 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 5: work here. Howard Satt worked last year. So I'm just 77 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 5: really sad about that part of it. I came here 78 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 5: for two reasons. I love the community here and wanted 79 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 5: to live here, and I love it here, and I 80 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 5: wanted to rebuild Nebraska football and Troy and I understand 81 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 5: the steps that you need to take to make us 82 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 5: Big Ten champions and national champions. This this place is elite. 83 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 5: I'm not going to talk a lot about job openings 84 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 5: when they come. Maybe it's been a while here, but 85 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 5: this is what happens when you win. I've dealt with it, 86 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 5: you know, We've won a temple, and I dealt with 87 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 5: it all the time dealt with Baylor. I'm not going 88 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 5: to talk about those things ever. I'm not going to 89 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 5: talk about my contract here. I'm going to talk about 90 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 5: the team. Yeah. I absolutely love it here, and I 91 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 5: just wanted I want us to continue to take the 92 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 5: steps needed for us to turn this thing into a 93 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 5: beast and players all across the country you want to 94 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 5: come here. We have the best facilities, we have elite fans, 95 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 5: and I'm just looking. 96 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: At the future. 97 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: So it feels like this would be the one, like 98 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: if there was going to be like this feels like 99 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: a dream job for Matt Rule if he decided he 100 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: wanted to take it based on his comments about the program. 101 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: So what c not my albleter? You got it? You 102 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 2: got this? No, you always not true. 103 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 3: That is not true. 104 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: Let's don't do this to me. Let's bring them home, Bar, 105 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: Let's bring him. Come on, bar, what y'all would come on? 106 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 6: Bar? 107 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: And me for why are you? 108 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: Why are you putting this on me? 109 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 5: Man? 110 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: It's let's hear what you have to say. 111 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 7: Cut all right, and I'll say things I've told of 112 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 7: are behind the scenes, Like look, I think I think 113 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 7: hiring a coach who has previous experience at a school, 114 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 7: either as a student, but always better as a player, 115 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 7: is really important. And the reason why I said this 116 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 7: is because I think college football is more tribal, it's 117 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 7: more cultural than any other sport. And we can call 118 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 7: it professional sport however you want to describe where college 119 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 7: football is at. 120 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 3: That's just the reality of it. Okay. 121 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 7: People attach a really important, amazing part of their life 122 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 7: to that school because of the maturation process that happens 123 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 7: through it. So there's just a more a stronger feeling 124 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 7: towards that school, towards their alma mater. And so I 125 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 7: think someone who's got the perspective having gone through it, 126 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 7: it helps them understand exactly what they're signing up for. 127 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 7: You know, we just talked about Brian Callahan getting fired 128 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 7: with the Tennessee Titans when he signed that contract, when 129 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 7: he decided to become the head coach of the Tennessee Titans. 130 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 7: I guarantee you right now, all the thoughts going through 131 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 7: his head are drastically different than what was said to him, 132 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 7: what he was thinking. 133 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: Going into it less than two years ago. 134 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 7: And I think when you've got the perspective of again 135 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 7: a coach who has played there been there, and he 136 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 7: goes back to his alma mater for example. In this case, 137 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 7: it helps him understand all the powers that be, what 138 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 7: that fan base is going to be like, you know, win, lose, etc. 139 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 7: All those things. He understands the recruiting landscape. There's just 140 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 7: so many things that it makes it a bit easier 141 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 7: in ways. But also it helps you get off on 142 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 7: the right foot right out the gate. You know you're 143 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 7: not having someone jump into a program that doesn't feel 144 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 7: like the right fit. And I say this being a 145 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 7: guy from Columbus, Ohio who watched John Cooper, who was 146 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 7: a Southern who come up to the Midwest, and it 147 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 7: just felt like it was never gonna work. 148 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: John Cooper was a really good coach. 149 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: Won a lot of football games. 150 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 7: He's a Hall of Fame coach by the way in 151 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 7: college football, but he ultimately couldn't beat Michigan enough. He 152 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 7: ultimately couldn't win enough bowl games and get Ohio State 153 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 7: to where it needed to go. And watch Jim Trestle 154 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 7: when he was able to do that, and by the wait, 155 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 7: Jim trest was someone who understood the landscape like I 156 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 7: was there on a recruiting visit when he walked into 157 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 7: Saint John's Arena and he's literally said to the crowd, 158 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 7: We're gonna make you proud X amount of days, which 159 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 7: were the days leading up to that game against Michigan. 160 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 7: Like he knew right out the gate what he needed 161 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 7: to do and what he needed to say, and then 162 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 7: he catched the world on fire. I don't think his 163 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 7: first year, but but after that it became that right. 164 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 7: So my general point is, would Matt Rule be a 165 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 7: good fit for Penn State? Of course? You know, I 166 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 7: think you look at what he's done every third year 167 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,479 Speaker 7: he's been with a college program, Temple, Baylor, now Nebraska. 168 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 7: You know, his first year five and seven. You know, 169 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 7: next year was seven and six. I believe now they 170 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 7: five to one, and when you really look at their schedule, 171 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 7: they could be eleven and one with the way this 172 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 7: thing's going so far and and what their schedule looks like. 173 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: So once again year three building it up. 174 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 7: And I know it didn't work with the Carolina Panthers, 175 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 7: but quite honestly, like who is it really working for there? 176 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 7: With Carolina? My concern in this hire is, you know, 177 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 7: he hasn't been able to beat a top twenty five 178 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 7: team since he's gotten to Nebraska, like he hasn't been 179 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 7: able to win that kind of big game. 180 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: And that's exactly the issue. 181 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 7: With why James Franklin is no longer there. Not only 182 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 7: could he not win that game, but then it became 183 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 7: an issue of you know, losing the UCLA, losing the 184 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 7: northwester or kind of a snowball effect. But that's the question, 185 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 7: like you're trying to answer, and so that is a 186 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 7: little bit of a concern. But I also, you know, 187 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 7: don't want to limit you know, what Matt Rule could 188 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 7: potentially do with the resources of everything else he has there. 189 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: Now, again, there's a. 190 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 7: Lot of football if we played Matt Rule's got a again, 191 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 7: a team that may be biting for a playoff spot 192 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 7: in Nebraska. Sounds crazy to say, but it could be. 193 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 7: And so we'll see how things play out over the 194 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 7: course of the year. But to me, he would definitely 195 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 7: be one of the names that I would go after, 196 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 7: one of the names that makes a lot of sense 197 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 7: as far as a fit of the next head coach 198 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 7: at Penn State. 199 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 4: You know, Matt and Pat have worked together before that. 200 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 4: You know, he was he was Pat. Pat was Matt's 201 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 4: a d I want to say at Temple, I believe 202 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 4: that that's where that's correct. 203 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: They cracked up. 204 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 4: And as far as as far as I'll just say 205 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 4: what I feel about Matt from my perspective, I won't 206 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: turn it into like this, this is the guy that's getting 207 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 4: hired or anything like that. I would just say what 208 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: what my understanding of Matt Rule is. He's an interesting 209 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: He's an interesting one because success has never changed him. 210 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 4: You know, He's if you were to meet Matt Rule 211 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 4: twenty years ago and you're hanging out with Matt Rule today, 212 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 4: you would think that being a head coach some of 213 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 4: the most prominent programs, even making it to the National 214 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 4: Football League, to be a head coach, you be a 215 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 4: little you'd be different. You know changes you. Success changes 216 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 4: you power, positions of power. They have the power of 217 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 4: changing you. And Matt Rule has never changed. He has 218 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: always been the dude that you see and you give 219 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 4: him the biggest hug, the biggest embrace, and you catch 220 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 4: up just like you didn't miss any time. So I 221 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 4: would say one, I've never met anyone who has had 222 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 4: anything ever bad to say about Matt Rule, not one person. Secondly, 223 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 4: I would say one of my interesting observations during my time, 224 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 4: you know, going to Penn State. I've never like when 225 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 4: Joe was coaching, our sideline was littered with guys that 226 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: played for Joe Paturna. Know, you didn't see that with 227 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: with Coach Franklin. You would see some guys from Coach 228 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 4: Franklin's days of coaching there, but there was not a 229 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, like there's like one hundred two hundred, 230 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: you know whatever, it is, like crazy amount of lettermen 231 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 4: that are on the sideline. Recently, they there's been a real, 232 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 4: I guess, a real action to try to create that 233 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 4: and bring guys back. I don't know that you would 234 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: have that problem with Matt rule. And I'm not sure 235 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: how the Franklin the Franklin former players would view it 236 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: or see it, how they would handle things or how 237 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: they're going to handle things. But I know for certain, 238 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 4: you know, guys from the Joe Paterno era would probably 239 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 4: come back. They would come back around. There's a strong 240 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 4: possibility that supporters of Joe Paterno. And if you know 241 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 4: the Penn State politics, I call Penn State Rome. You 242 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 4: have the Senate, you have you know, you have the Emperor. 243 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 4: You you know you have the Caesar or whatever you have. 244 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 4: You have a lot of different levels of people doing 245 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: things and positions of power or positions of privilege, whatever 246 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 4: you want to call it. You have that set up 247 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 4: at Penn State, and a lot of people are gatekeepers, 248 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 4: and so it gets pretty interesting being able to navigate 249 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: from one place to another without somebody gatekeeping it and 250 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 4: making it difficult. Whether you work there or whether you're 251 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 4: a fan or whatever it may be, it's just weird. 252 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 4: It's a It's an interesting way of how culture is handled. 253 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 4: I think a guy that's familiar with what how the 254 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 4: mob works, you know, how how different different aspects of 255 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 4: intern on how things work, would be a benefit. Now, 256 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: how much of that does Matt Rule know at this point, 257 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 4: I don't know. Is he familiar with it one hundred percent? 258 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 4: So there is the politics side of it that if 259 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 4: you bring someone in and they don't understand whoever the 260 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 4: guy is that comes in, he has to understand or 261 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 4: or get up to speed very quickly on the landscape 262 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: of what Penn State represents, because if you do not 263 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 4: take that into serious consideration, your time will be it 264 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: will be very very limited, just because of the intensity 265 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 4: of the fan base, it'll be it'll be pretty, it 266 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: may be short lived. So I just think I think 267 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: Matt Rule is a guy that that again he can 268 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: unite instead of creating division. I just don't know if 269 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 4: it's a great like it always sounds it is great 270 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 4: to bring an alumni back, a guy who knows it 271 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: Da da da. I just wonder is there is there 272 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: are there drawbacks to that as well, Like you know, 273 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 4: I don't. I would never want to do it because 274 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 4: the same people that are are the ones that love 275 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 4: you now and have cheered you on through the years 276 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Get to some losing games, get 277 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 4: to a losing season and you'll be like, wait, wait, 278 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 4: like you you had my autograph on your jersey and 279 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: you're you're sitting there saying fire me, Like, I don't 280 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 4: want to go through those type of It's. 281 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: Wild, right, Yeah, I don't. 282 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 4: I would never want to go through those mental emotional 283 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 4: gymnastics as to how can you go from loving me 284 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 4: to hating me? 285 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 7: And dude, we used to play in this bookstore basketball 286 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 7: tournament at Notre Dame. It's it's I mean claim to 287 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 7: be the largest outdoor five on five basketball tournam in 288 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 7: the world. There's like some five hundred and six hundred teams. 289 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 7: It's any student, faculty, employee of the of the university. 290 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 3: Anyone could play in it. You can't play for. 291 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 7: More than one team, but like there's all these different 292 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 7: rules and it goes on during the spring, like the 293 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 7: entire spring semester. 294 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: And I remember going from our spring game. 295 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 7: Like people are cheering you on you're at your spring game, 296 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 7: to then going to the basketball court and all these 297 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 7: dudes are talking trash and I'm like, what the what 298 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 7: in the world, Like what is going on? It always 299 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 7: it always gave me the perspective of like everyone loves 300 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 7: you until things aren't going the way that they want 301 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 7: them to go or you even you want them to go. 302 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: And the reality is, too is fans aren't your friends. 303 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 7: And I think there's too often times players get, you know, 304 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 7: that confused because of you know, the love that they 305 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 7: get at times, and then the backlash that they'll receive 306 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 7: is that they're not friends. They're just fans. You know, 307 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 7: they like the team. They're gonna like the team after 308 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 7: you're there. They liked it before you got there. So 309 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 7: you have to have the proper perspective. But I'm really 310 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 7: curious to get Jonas's two cents on this, because I 311 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 7: think he's got he's got a little sit by the way, 312 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 7: going back to the big games for Matt rule, Matt 313 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 7: rule is not beaten, and I believe my research is 314 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 7: correct in this case. His record versus ranked teams is 315 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 7: two and twenty three, and it actually dates back to 316 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 7: his wins versus top twenty five teams. 317 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: He got one over. 318 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 3: But state, well, it comes down to Temple. 319 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, bad, bad record against top 320 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: teams sounds familiar. It feels like that that was the 321 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: problem last time. But my question for Lebar is this, 322 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: and then. 323 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: We want to take Yeah, we want we want to 324 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: ask why you an Annie up? 325 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: First, give us your take. Then you're gonna ask some question. 326 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: How what is pat Craft's standing within the program? Is 327 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: he love there? Does he yet like? Is he on 328 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: steady ground? Is there any conversation about pat Craft? 329 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: Potentially? 330 00:17:59,400 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 3: Ad? 331 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, he's good. Okay, he's good, all right. 332 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: So if that's if that's the case, then let him 333 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: do what he sees fit for the program. Let him 334 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: go with the direction he wants to go with somebody 335 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: he's confident in somebody he has a relationship with somebody 336 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: who knows the program the way he does, and let 337 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: him do what it takes to bring in Matt Rule. 338 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: And if they're let him do what it takes to 339 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: bring in that rule. Like if he can, if he 340 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: can bring. 341 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: You've already concluded that he should bring in that. 342 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: No not rule because Signette's a p A guy Okay, Pittsburgh, 343 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: but he's yeah, but he's not a Matt Rule PA 344 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: guy who was went to high school and state college. 345 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: Walked on Joas was a grad assistant after he left 346 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: state college. 347 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: Bring in Matt Rule, bring back he was. He was 348 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: like a grad assistant. He was like not a grad assistant, 349 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: but he was like a manager. You know. 350 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 4: That's how he got on the team. Like the story 351 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 4: of him getting on the team is, Wow, he's a 352 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: walk on because if the way that you present it 353 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 4: is Joe didn't even want him to try out, and 354 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 4: he kept begging and begging and begging. They finally allowed 355 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 4: him to try out. The dude tries out and makes 356 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 4: the team. We like we were rag dolling Matt Rule, 357 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 4: rag dolling him and warm up and end period and 358 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 4: stuff like that. Dude found a way to make it 359 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 4: on the field as a special team specialist. Dude was 360 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: making plays on special teams like his His story's pre phenomenal. 361 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 1: So it's kind Yes, so he was rudy, except it 362 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: wasn't embellished. 363 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: Dang. 364 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know about all that, but but God like, 365 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 4: go finish your point. 366 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: My thought is, if it can be done, make it happen. 367 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: If he's open to it, make it happen. And if 368 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: there's a Nebraska fan out there that looks at this 369 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: and has any sort of an issue with Matt Rule 370 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: wanting to take the gig, this feels like a dream opportunity, 371 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: a you know, come full circle moment for Matt Rule, 372 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: for his wife we met the I think this is 373 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: the one that he would look at and go, I'm 374 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: a stand up guy, you know, I love Nebraska. But 375 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: this opportunity is too good to pass up. And if 376 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: they if pat crafts on steady ground there and they 377 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: trust his direction with the team, with the program, with 378 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: athletics in general, then let him do what it takes 379 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: to bring. 380 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 2: Home that rule, that would be my move. 381 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 7: Was your question the pack Craft questions, So you asked 382 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 7: the question first, anyway, is that what you did there? 383 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 384 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a jerk. 385 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: I just wanted to know. And also, when you say 386 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: that a lot of the old time players weren't hanging 387 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: out around the program, was that that James Franklin wasn't 388 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: open to that or they just didn't view him. 389 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 390 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 7: It doesn't feel like James would be the type of 391 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 7: coach to do that, like he Yeah, I don't know 392 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 7: that that is that my choice? 393 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 2: I don't. I probably would say it's by choice. Do 394 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: you think that. 395 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 7: Maybe some of the older guys are just like, man, 396 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 7: it's so damn hard to get in there. 397 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 2: No, I'm not dealing with that. That airport sucks because. 398 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 3: I mean, can I be honest? 399 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: Can I be honest? 400 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 7: The first thing I do as the head coach of 401 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 7: Penn State when I take over, is I am lobbying. 402 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 7: I don't know if it's a state, I don't know 403 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 7: who I need to lobby of the county. I'm making 404 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 7: that airport bigger. The fact that the team has to 405 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 7: drive to Harrisburg to fly out is ridiculous. And also 406 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 7: give yourself a chance to have I don't care which airline, 407 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 7: but find a partner, lobby, the lobby the state local 408 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 7: government to make that airport bigger, to make it even easier. 409 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 7: On recruiting, like you guys haven't been able to get 410 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 7: like really great blue chip wide receivers. There's been some guys, 411 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 7: Don't get me wrong. John Dotson is like the most 412 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 7: recent kind of comes to mind. So there's others. But 413 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 7: the reality is, as far as recruiting goes, the easier 414 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 7: you make it to get to a school for the 415 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 7: player and the parent, the easier it is for them 416 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 7: to make that decision. Like that is one of the 417 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 7: first things that I have no idea why that hasn't changed. 418 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 2: That's not why changed. That is the reason. You could 419 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: say it's not why. But if no, it's not. I'm 420 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: not talking about recruits. 421 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 4: You guys ask me why Letterman don't don't don't come 422 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 4: ome No, no, no. 423 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not saying that. 424 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 7: All I'm saying is, though every single person that's a 425 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 7: Penn State of lum fan recruit what have you, they 426 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 7: would literally look at the coach and say thank you, 427 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 7: thank God, like thank god someone finally like brought me. 428 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: You're not wrong about that. 429 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: Look, I'll be transparent. I said this to LeVar. 430 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 7: I was like, they need somebody who can bring you 431 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 7: into the twenty first century with how things are done. 432 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 2: Now this is one of them. That's so funny. 433 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: We just we just started updating hotel rooms like now no, 434 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 4: but literally this year was like like like the last 435 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 4: couple of years has been the first times that we've 436 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 4: started updating things like like let's just say, you know. 437 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: Hotel and go oh whatever. 438 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 7: It changes the entire experience, It changes haged mind. 439 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: And I've been going there for years. 440 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: The amis the Amish rolled through on a horse and 441 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: buggy like hit it together. 442 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: Bro the hotel I went. 443 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 4: I stayed at the hotel that I stayed in when 444 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 4: I was a player at Penn State the night before games. 445 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 2: And I went there a couple of times and was 446 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 2: staying there and on. 447 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 4: God, outside of the TV, everything was the couches, the carpet, 448 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 4: everything was the same, like your artwork on the walls, 449 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 4: every single thing that the Primanni rapper you left there 450 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 4: twenty years ago with stuff. 451 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 2: Right there in the corner, right there in the corner. 452 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: Missed it. They missed it. 453 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 7: Telling you, man, they need to update that whole thing, 454 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 7: like they and I'll compare it to not. 455 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: And they are we are we are by the way. 456 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 3: Well, but even the airport in the sense of all 457 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: that just how you can go about doing it. 458 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 7: But like Notre Dame, there was a kind of a 459 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 7: divide between Notre Dame the actual campus and then South Bend, 460 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 7: and I would say over the last like kind of 461 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 7: fifteen years ish, there has been more of a partnership 462 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 7: and then how they're trying to kind of revamp and 463 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 7: just make it safer, better for everyone involved, and everyone 464 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 7: wins in that case in a happy value. 465 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they have same issues. 466 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 7: But there's definitely some similar things that they could do 467 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 7: to help make life easier on whoever that next head 468 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 7: coach is. All the fans, alumni, students, all that stuff, 469 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 7: even faculty, like all that stuff could be could be improved. 470 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 7: And I know people are like, why the hell are 471 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 7: you talking about this with the head coach, because literally 472 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 7: usually the head coach of that football program is the 473 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,239 Speaker 7: top paid employee of the state. Like there's no one 474 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 7: who's gonna be paid more than Ryan Day and the 475 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 7: state of Ohio, there's no one's gonna be paid more 476 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 7: than the head coach at Penn State in the entire state. 477 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 7: So that's the person that's got that the actually voice, 478 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 7: the platform, the lobbying power to actually do it. So 479 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 7: that's why I bring that up because and it makes 480 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 7: a monumental change. Go look at Teatown, go ahead, and 481 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 7: Tuscaloosa when Nick Sabn first got there and what it 482 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 7: is now that entire place is transformed. Yes, success plays 483 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 7: a role in that, but his understanding of the bigger 484 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 7: picture played a role in that too, and it's one 485 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 7: of the reasons why they're still to this day recruiting 486 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 7: their ass off. 487 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't disagree with that. I think 488 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 4: just going back to the simple, you know, response to 489 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 4: the question, I just think that guys want to feel 490 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 4: comfortable about where they're going, and regardless of where the 491 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 4: not the discomfort of it comes from. 492 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 493 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 4: I just know there's always been the undercurrent the conversations 494 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 4: of Joe Paterno era versus the New era of time. 495 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 4: I don't know why it turned into a thing, but 496 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 4: it did, and and it was always something that was 497 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 4: hanging over James Franklin's head. I find it to be 498 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 4: kind of petty and was unnecessary and still will continue 499 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 4: to be unnecessary. How how someone like Matt rule would 500 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 4: be received, I'm not sure I think it would be 501 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: a better situation, But there's always those ones, including Jay, 502 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 4: you know, Jay Paterno, Joe's son, that they they make 503 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 4: it a point to continue to flame and and create 504 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 4: a fire or keep the fire burning of there being 505 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 4: like this divide between the the Joe Paterno era and 506 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 4: the era of Penn State moving forward, Like. 507 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what they want. 508 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 4: I don't know what that represents, but it has been 509 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: a determining factor in how people view the program, the 510 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 4: people involved in it, and at some point that's got 511 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 4: to come to an end. So there are bigger issues 512 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 4: that have to be addressed. But it'll be interesting to 513 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 4: see if the person they choose, outside of a Matt Ruhle, 514 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 4: who would probably understand how to navigate it. Outside of that, 515 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 4: would a Kurt Signette be able to do it? Like 516 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 4: would other guys be able to come in there and 517 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 4: navigate it, because that's a major part of what these guys, 518 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 4: you know, what. 519 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: James Franklin had to navigate. Yeah, just don't hire a tool. 520 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: Speaking of which, get tools to perform at the highest 521 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: level on every job without compromise. 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You know what I mean, Like, eat them 533 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 4: rivels right on up. If it tastes real good. You know, 534 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 4: food always tastes better when you win. Drinks are colder, 535 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 4: you know. But that hot sauce, man, it's a vibe, 536 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 4: and oh yeah, better be that original Louisiana hot sauce 537 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 4: because nothing brings that heat like your team getting that dub, 538 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 4: and nothing brings that flavor like that bold, hand crafted 539 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 4: kick straight out of Louisiana. That's right, it's that peppery 540 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 4: peppers kick, that vinegar kick, that salt kick from our 541 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 4: Louisiana flavor masters who have been blending perfectly for almost 542 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 4: one hundred years. It'll turn every good meal into a 543 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 4: great meal, and every great meal into a party. On 544 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 4: your plate, Nacho, Who's burgers, wings, you name, it doesn't matter. 545 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 4: Hit it with that original Louisiana Hot sauce after a 546 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 4: Sunday win or Saturday or Friday, and suddenly it's unbeatable, 547 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 4: like a touchdown. Dance on your tongue. And hey, if 548 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 4: your team didn't pull off a win this week, don't 549 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 4: worry about it. Pour some on anyway. It'll help ease 550 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 4: the pain. That's right, is what we call a victory formation. 551 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 4: On your taste buds, Lorena, the only original Louisiana Hot 552 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 4: sauce can get that done. So make sure it's Louisiana Hot. 553 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 4: You know, bye you. 554 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 6: So be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros 555 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 6: and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, 556 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 6: and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am 557 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 6: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app Hi. 558 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: This is Jay. 559 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 8: I'm the producer of the Paula and Tony Fusco Show. 560 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 8: Usually in these promos they asked you to listen to 561 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 8: the show. I'm here to ask you Please don't listen 562 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 8: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who 563 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 8: have the dumbest takes on sports magible. Don't listen to 564 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 8: the show so it can get Camper, get. 565 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: Him, Paully, Ignore that fool. 566 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: Listen to the Tony Fosco Show on the iHeart Radio 567 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: app or wherever you get your podcasts. 568 00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: He's still moving. Two pros and a couple of Oh. 569 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with 570 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: you here. Coming up in just a couple of moments 571 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: from now, we're going to tell you about well, there's 572 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: a coach in the NFL doesn't really understand what a 573 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: rival is doing. We'll get into that for you here 574 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: on FSR. By the way, at the home Depot, Makita 575 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: tools are built for the pros who show up early 576 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: with tools built to last job after job, year after year. 577 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: When the job calls for the best, call them Makita 578 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: available at the home Depot. How pros get more done. 579 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: So the Steelers and the Bengals will face off this Thursday. 580 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: That'll be your kickoff too. Week seven in the NFL, 581 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: and Mike Tomlin is still trying to figure out why 582 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns traded Joe Flacco inside the division. 583 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 9: You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me. 584 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 9: Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or us, 585 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 9: because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a 586 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 9: quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening 587 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 9: day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area. 588 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 9: But that's just my personal feeling. 589 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: I totally agreed. I'm like, I totally agreed that when 590 00:30:59,200 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: it happened. 591 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: Is this the most common sense like way of summarizing 592 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 3: what happened. 593 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 4: When we when I saw that that took place, I 594 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 4: think that's the first thing I asked, y'all, why why 595 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 4: would you allow him to go to Cincinnati with all 596 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: that talent? 597 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 2: Like I take that so the first conversation we had. 598 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 3: So there's multiple ways of cutting this up. Like the 599 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: first thing. 600 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 7: I'd say is you drafted two quarterbacks third and fifth round, 601 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 7: Dylan Gabriel, Shediver Sanders. If you were going to spend 602 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 7: which like goes without saying rookies need the most reps, right, 603 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 7: most development, most practice time, all that, if you were 604 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 7: going to spend the entire offseason all right with by 605 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 7: the way, two guys because they already dealt Picket. So 606 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 7: you had Flacco and Picket, and then you got two 607 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 7: rookies and you're you're doing this whole thing where you're 608 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 7: dividing up all these reps. How does it make any 609 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 7: sense to then waste all that time and energy on 610 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 7: two guys who weren't gonna be there past what week 611 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 7: six in the NFL? Crazy like that in and of itself. 612 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 7: So like, so forget the trade and where Joe Flacco went. 613 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 7: Just think about the fact that you had Picket, you 614 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 7: had Flacco, two guys who are battling to be your 615 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 7: starting quarterback, taking reps away from now to guys who 616 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 7: will be your quarterbacks moving forward for the bulk of 617 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 7: the season. 618 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 3: Like that in and of itself. 619 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 7: Like, dude, it happened when I was there in two 620 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 7: thousand and seven, Charlie Frye was our starting quarterback. He 621 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 7: got benched after halftime of week our Week one game 622 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 7: versus Pittsburgh. 623 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 3: They traded him after that week. 624 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 7: Do you know, Asinine, that is like to waste all 625 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 7: that time in reps, It's ridiculous, Like it's there's no 626 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 7: different than the conversation we just had about Brian Callahan 627 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 7: that like, if you're gonna wait and just do it 628 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 7: at this point in the season, why not doing the offseason? 629 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 7: Like what is the point? So to me, there's like 630 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 7: that and how ridiculous it is. And then the fact 631 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 7: that you're willing to do it within the division a 632 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 7: team that you know you're going to face later on, 633 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 7: which maybe tells you that's what they think about Flack 634 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 7: at this point. He can't get the job done for them, 635 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 7: I guess. I mean, it's that can be talked about 636 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 7: in its own right, but just it's almost like Mike 637 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 7: Tomlin's sitting there saying to you, yeah, that's. 638 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 3: Not a serious organization. 639 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: And this is coming from. 640 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 3: A Browns fan, a former Browns. 641 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 7: Player, But that's the reality of what Browns fans and 642 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 7: the organization's up against in Pittsburgh. A serious organization, a 643 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 7: track record of success once again leading the division, not shocking, 644 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 7: and consistency, whereas Cleveland's been the exact opposite of that. 645 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 4: Again, I just think Captain Obvious was a part of 646 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 4: what what Mike Tomlin had to say. And again, why 647 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 4: would you allow for him to go to a team 648 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 4: if you're willing to trade for him as the Bengals. 649 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 4: You want to get a hold of him because you 650 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 4: guys need a quarterback because the one you're using right 651 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 4: now isn't helping, isn't working. Why would you allow that 652 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 4: trade to take place? That's I can't. I couldn't get 653 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 4: past that answer for the life of me. But even 654 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 4: if the thought process is, you know, I don't. We 655 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 4: don't take Cleveland seriously, well, you probably take Cincinnati seriously, 656 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 4: and they have a seriously good roster. They just don't 657 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 4: have Joe Burrow right now. So why would you allow 658 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 4: for Joe Flacco, who you've seen prove that he can win, 659 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 4: still go to that team with all that talent and 660 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 4: you're the Browns. That says to me, the Browns have 661 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 4: an old terrier motive, Yes, a different okay, they have 662 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 4: a different agenda, then what the Stealers. The Steelers have 663 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 4: an agenda to try to win a super Bowl and 664 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 4: win the conference and go on to try to win 665 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 4: the division and well back to reverse right and and 666 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns are what trying to get the number one 667 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 4: overall picks Like, okay, so. 668 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 2: There you go. They don't care if they suck. 669 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, which switch is crazy because when you have 670 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 4: to deal with a team that has that when they 671 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 4: had that type of. 672 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's true though, like the Bears, the Jets, 673 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: the Browns, like it's the usual suspects. 674 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 2: Again, that's horrible when. 675 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 4: If you have a team that's that that bad and 676 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 4: that's what they're going for and they're they're sabotaging other 677 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 4: people just for what it is that they're going to 678 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 4: just be bad. Anyway they get the number one overall pick, 679 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 4: they're going to get a quarterback, They're still going to 680 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 4: be bad. 681 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 2: They're going to be bad. So that's crazy. 682 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 4: You're jacking up other people's opportunities potentially, and you're only 683 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 4: doing that to try to position yourself to get a 684 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 4: number one draft pick. It's not guaranteeing you that the 685 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns are going to be good or competitive after 686 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 4: they get this number one pick. It's just strange the 687 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 4: Jets and telling Aaron Rodgers, now we don't need you 688 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 4: or better off. You know, in an era where you've 689 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 4: got teams going for it on fourth down, like I 690 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 4: was thinking about this yesterday, actually, in an era where 691 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 4: teams are going for it on fourth down at at 692 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 4: a clip that we've never seen before. The punter in 693 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 4: the NFL has now become less valuable, and the Bears 694 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 4: drafted one with the fourth round pick, Like what sense. 695 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: Does that make? 696 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: And there was still players on the board. Bucky Irving 697 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: was on the board, like there were still players there, 698 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: and for some reason they just thought that was the move. Yeah, 699 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna go take a punter in the fourth round, okay, 700 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: And that was I think that was their last pick 701 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: of their draft. 702 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,479 Speaker 2: Like bat bad teams every year. 703 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: We were talking earlier in the show, we don't know 704 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: who the best team in the NFL is, but like 705 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: if you yes quickly with without any thought at all, 706 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jets, Browns, Raiders, Titans. Yeah we're good. 707 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 4: You know those names just familiar names with the same storyline. 708 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 2: Yep. 709 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 7: Well, one thing I know for sure is the Browns 710 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 7: better not be sleeping on Joe Flacco, all right, because 711 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 7: you brought a little bit of a spark there. And 712 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 7: speaking of sleep, if you were losing sleep, every time 713 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 7: someone moves in bed, matches from sleep experts, they'll match 714 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 7: you with the temper luks adapt it's temper material absorbs 715 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 7: motion for undisturbed rest. Visit mattress from today and upgrade 716 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 7: to a temper repeting it makes sleep easy. 717 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on 718 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with 719 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: you here. Coming up next. Somebody's pushing back on some 720 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: rumors about their situation in the world of football. You'll 721 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: hear it next here on FSR. 722 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 723 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 6: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and 724 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 6: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 725 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, 726 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here, coming 727 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,479 Speaker 1: off top of next. Nowur a little over ten minutes 728 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: from now. One last glance back at double barrel action 729 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,479 Speaker 1: in the NFL last night on Monday Night Football. That'll 730 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: be yours here on FSR. Nothing to see here, Bill 731 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: Belichick said yesterday, the reports about my looking for a buyout, 732 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,959 Speaker 1: are trying to leave North Carolina is categorically false. There's 733 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: zero truth to any of that. I'm glad I'm here. 734 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: We're working toward our goals. We believe very much in 735 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: the process. We need to just keep working and grinding away, 736 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: and that's exactly what we're doing. So all of that 737 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: stuff last week, all of those reports about you know, 738 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: assistant coaches complaining, people feeling bad for the kids, We're 739 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: two weeks away from this thing ending. All of that 740 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: at all false, apparently according to Bill Belichick. And I 741 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: think it was Bruce Feldman who was on with The 742 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: Herd yesterday who pointed out that, you know, Mike Lombardi 743 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 1: maybe is the guy who's kind of, you know, steered 744 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: this thing in the wrong direction based on roster construction, 745 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: and as Bruce pointed out in an article last week, 746 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 1: that they kind of misread how to operate and how to. 747 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 2: Build a program at the college level. 748 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 1: So apparently, though everybody's there and everybody wants to be there, 749 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: and so there's no end in sight for Belichick and 750 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: his time at North Carolina, no end in sight. 751 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 7: I do love the fact though, that like Lombardi has 752 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 7: somehow flowing under the radar. Meanwhile, like he's the one 753 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 7: that kept calling the team the thirty third NFL team, 754 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 7: He's the one that's you know, in charge of the 755 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 7: evaluation roster construction, and then you see always reports about 756 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 7: how they're fighting for power. 757 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 2: Excuse me, a group of four, group of five guys. 758 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: It's just. 759 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 3: Random, you know, it's kind of random. And I'll be 760 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 3: curious to see if that relationship. 761 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 7: Continues or what they do to change the course moving forward, 762 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 7: if indeed he's going to be around past this year, 763 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 7: which we'll find out when it's all send them a 764 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 7: lot of football left to be played, though, but they've 765 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 7: got to improve mightily otherwise there's there's no chance this 766 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 7: team can even make a bowl game at this point. 767 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 4: You know, he's going to receive the benefit of the doubt. 768 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 4: His resume is too strong. I think it ultimately comes 769 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 4: down to what's the relationship between Bill Belichick and. 770 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 5: The a D. 771 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 4: What's the AD's relationship with the whatever whoever it is 772 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 4: that runs the school. 773 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 2: I don't know what title they would have at U 774 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 2: and C. 775 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 4: But Bubba Cunningham's the AD, all right, So whatever whatever 776 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 4: that relatelationship is between Bubba and and Bill, and Bubba's 777 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 4: relationship with the person that that runs the school. And 778 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 4: and you know is you and see a private or 779 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 4: state that's state school, right, so they they he probably 780 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 4: they have to figure out how they're dealing with the 781 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 4: board and stuff like that. I mean, there's a there's 782 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 4: a few conversations that I feel as though have to 783 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 4: be taking place now in order for what Bill Belichick 784 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 4: may be intending to have take place be able to 785 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 4: stay on course, because there's obviously going to be conversations 786 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 4: as to is he doing things the right way based 787 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 4: off of what you're seeing as the results this year. 788 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 4: But he did say trust the process, And for some 789 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 4: strange reason, we've forgotten that sometimes it takes time to 790 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 4: build success. Like you don't you don't always come in 791 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 4: and have success right out of the gate. So for 792 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 4: for our our culture and our society to have turned 793 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 4: to that so so, I don't know, I think it's 794 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 4: so unrealistic to think that everybody's just going to have 795 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 4: success right from the start. 796 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: They were people were the way it was covered, it 797 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: was almost, I don't want to say rooting for it 798 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: to fail from the jump, but it almost immediately everything 799 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: around Belichick and North Carolina was criticized, his girlfriend, the interview, 800 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: just all of it. 801 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 4: Wind blows hardest at the top of the flag pole. Man, 802 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 4: It's just what it is. Just how it works. It's 803 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 4: just how it works. You gotta get what's happening at 804 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 4: the bottom of that pole. You're just there. You're just there. 805 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 4: You're in the icing, you're just you're just like pole 806 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 4: humping going on. You're just deeply sunk into the icing 807 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 4: and you're just there. Damn with some pole humping.