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Speaker 1: These One Bills Live, presented by Called Light of Health.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's Friday, people, We're almost there. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Steve, but I'm just about

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Speaker 1: ready to build an arc. I mean, if we get

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Speaker 1: any more rain this week, holy moly, man, Like it's

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Speaker 1: just and last night I had to get up in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the night because my Bills flag got

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Speaker 1: on the front of my house is waving around in

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Speaker 1: the wind and it's gonna snap off. I had to

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Speaker 1: go down and grab it in my jockey shorts bring

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Speaker 1: it inside. And it's freezing out there. So now you

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Speaker 1: didn't even like put on the obligatory robe bathrobe to

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Speaker 1: go out to the end of your Not a bathrobe guy,

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Speaker 1: not a big bathrobe guy. The reason why is I'm

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Speaker 1: always hot at night. Oh yeah, Like if I sleep

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Speaker 1: in more than a T shirt, I'm sweating like a

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Speaker 1: bucket of water. With you, I'll say this though, here's

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Speaker 1: my thing, and I'm I know this is probably t

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Speaker 1: M I letter rip. It's Friday once and not all

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Speaker 1: the time, just once in a while. Yeah, I swear

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Speaker 1: to you, I'm in my pajamas at five o'clock. So

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Speaker 1: five o'clock, so not all of it. Just call it

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Speaker 1: a night on a day one of those days you

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Speaker 1: know where it's like it's like this, it's like out,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna get anything done outside, and it's dark, right,

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Speaker 1: it's dark right, It's like and it feels like it's already.

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Speaker 1: So you got and I'm like, you know, why put

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Speaker 1: off the inevitable. So and I'm gonna like I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: watch a movie or something, I mean the game, Like

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Speaker 1: the Saves are coming on, like and we haven't eaten yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean dinner yet, and I'm like, let's call it.

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Speaker 1: Let's put yeah, put the pajamas on, eat some supper,

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Speaker 1: watch the Saves, go to bed. Boom my god. It's

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Speaker 1: like little house on the prairie, right, and that I

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Speaker 1: would do you have a nap? Huh? Do you have

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Speaker 1: a nightcap? Like with no good cal uh? No? But

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Speaker 1: I'll say my nightcap is actually once to if I'm cold,

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Speaker 1: I put the tuc on. Oh I'll be in bed, No,

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Speaker 1: not to bed watching the Saves game though I have

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Speaker 1: a sabers on bills you know, stock and cap on.

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Speaker 1: But not all the time. You know, I'm not all

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Speaker 1: the time, not that I'm not there yet. I'm not

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Speaker 1: my dad yet, like my daddy taking a big step

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Speaker 1: towards I'm pretty sure my mom and dad wants. They're

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Speaker 1: ninety two, the two of them. I'm pretty sure there

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Speaker 1: are days when they don't get out of their pajamas.

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Speaker 1: I'm not at that point yet. That's got to be though,

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Speaker 1: every once in a while, like, hey, I got no

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Speaker 1: particular place to be right, I'm just staying in the

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Speaker 1: PGA it is. I will say this, It does feel

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Speaker 1: really good when you can get it done. When it

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Speaker 1: you know, just say, you know what, I'm pulling the

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Speaker 1: ripcord on this day. I'm gonna just I am gonna

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Speaker 1: slide over, get the dog up there with me. He

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Speaker 1: has his spot where he lays right next to me

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Speaker 1: on the gap. Let's and let's just you know, and

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Speaker 1: the only thing is gonna move is my thumb that

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Speaker 1: is on the remote. That is it. I not. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen very often because we do lead busy lives,

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Speaker 1: and maybe that's why I kind of, you know, cherish

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Speaker 1: those evenings a little bit more than I should. But man,

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Speaker 1: oh man, I'm I'm I'm telling you once in a

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Speaker 1: while when I get the minute so done, especially in

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Speaker 1: the like this time of year when it's dark, no sunshine,

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Speaker 1: you know, just give me, just get me to tomorrow

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. You know. Yeah, I've like the ground

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Speaker 1: glad it's working, but right I'm just like it's bad. Jeeper.

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Speaker 1: We were out, I was out. I did spend some

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Speaker 1: time outside yesterday kind of evaluating the yard, you know,

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Speaker 1: evaluating the yard because I'm a guy. I've got a

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Speaker 1: and I you know, now at this time, after everything's

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Speaker 1: it and then that melted, it's all squished, you get

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Speaker 1: I dig ditches all over my yard because I got

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Speaker 1: a drain water. We have a sewer easement that goes

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Speaker 1: that they put in like twenty years ago because it

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Speaker 1: looked like a raging river in the spring, right, So

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Speaker 1: So we have like sewer grates right between our backyards,

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Speaker 1: thank god, because it would look So I don't have that,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes it meanders before it gets down there, you know.

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Speaker 1: So I I don't want it the water meandering in

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Speaker 1: I so I keep track of all that stuff, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to channel it. Yeah, and you know, so I

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Speaker 1: got some of that to think about. I was, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be you're not looking forward to the spring. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't have the energy I did. Right. Well, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you'd rather be in your pja I'd rather be in

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Speaker 1: my pajamas at five o'clock out, unless you know it's

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Speaker 1: day people. I mean I'm I know people can relate. Man,

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Speaker 1: You get up here and and it turns dark at

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Speaker 1: four forty five. The days are getting longer, that they

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Speaker 1: I can kind of feel it's not dark at five anymore.

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Speaker 1: It's right, it's almost dust, that's right, And you feel

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Speaker 1: that that's awesome. That's an awesome feeling, particularly when you

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Speaker 1: wake up one morning and it's really bright out. That

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Speaker 1: wasn't today, And yeah, it's not today. It was. I

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Speaker 1: was like, really serious, did you have snow at your place?

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Speaker 1: It was we had snow flakes, but nothing in human

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Speaker 1: The ground looked like our ground looked like powdered sugar.

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Speaker 1: powdered sugar. Yeah it was. And you know now that's

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Speaker 1: gone too, because it warmed up. It's gone. But man

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Speaker 1: and Man was driving back from the gym at seven thirty,

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Speaker 1: it still wasn't light because it was so dang overs.

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Speaker 1: I was like, is the sun or even coming up today?

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Speaker 1: Fifteen minutes of sunshine yesterday and it felt like, you know,

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Speaker 1: a week at the beach. Hurry up, run out, get

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Speaker 1: I'm not one of those political, you know, science, weather change,

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Speaker 1: had a satellite picture of Lake Erie and it's like

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Speaker 1: aqua green. Yeah, there's no frozen. Nothing's frozen over, not

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Speaker 1: like nothing like not even which lights were probably gonna

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Speaker 1: get slammed at least one or that more times. Nobody

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Speaker 1: right height. I'll have it neat exactly. Lake will be

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Speaker 1: so neat when we get blasted again in February or

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Speaker 1: we may. I'm thinking, like too, this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: do want to move on. We got plenty to discuss

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Speaker 1: regarding Bill's Bengals on Sunday, divisional playoff of great magnitude,

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Speaker 1: shall we say? I would call it the game of

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Speaker 1: the week by far our listeners. It is the game

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Speaker 1: well no, but I mean even league wide, people are

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Speaker 1: it's chiefly because you know, even that Niners Cowboys matchup,

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Speaker 1: doesn't have quite the sizzle although he has. There's no

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Speaker 1: style to his credit. There's no star power in some

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Speaker 1: of the other games. I mean, Daniel Jones is just okay,

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Speaker 1: games and Dak Prescott has some cachet because it's the Cowboys, right,

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Speaker 1: But this playoff game in a while, Joe versus Josh,

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Speaker 1: that's all you gotta say. Since last week Joe versus

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Speaker 1: h is, people know that they want to see these guys.

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Speaker 1: DeMar Hamlin was named by the nfl PA as the

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Speaker 1: Week eighteen NFLPA Community MVP and they will donate ten

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars to his Chasing MS Foundation. They tweeted that

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Speaker 1: news out and it read as follows a fighter, devoted

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Speaker 1: family member and friend, Tomar Hamlin's impact and hundreds of

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Speaker 1: So nice moved by the NFLPA there, so that that

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Speaker 1: was nice to see Bills on the practice field indoors

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Speaker 1: again once again because all the dang rain we've had,

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Speaker 1: so they're practicing inside. There is more news out of

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Speaker 1: of Bengals practice then there is Bill's practice, at least

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Speaker 1: for right now. The reason why is because head coach

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor has officially ruled out left tackle Jonah Williams

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Speaker 1: and right guard Alex Kappa. And this is really not surprising.

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Speaker 1: Neither of these two players practiced at all this week.

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Speaker 1: They were both labeled week to week with their respective injuries,

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Speaker 1: Lyle Collins, who went down with a season ending knee injury,

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Speaker 1: and then, as we know, the game only lasted half

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Speaker 1: a quarter before Damar Hamlin at his cardiac event and

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Speaker 1: the game was cancer. The following week, they lose Alex Kappa.

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Speaker 1: He didn't even play last week, he's not going to

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Speaker 1: is now not going to play. As for their replacement, Steve,

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Speaker 1: it's anticipated that Jackson Carmen, who I believe is a

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Speaker 1: You've got Max Sharping, who has about thirty starts in

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Speaker 1: right tackle, and that's how they're going to go. Sure,

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Speaker 1: Smith was the swing tackle, but when when push came

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Speaker 1: not Deontay Smith. And when they may and I we

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Speaker 1: Oh well, sure, I mean whatever, or anybody or Bill

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Speaker 1: Polly and like Bill, who should I hire somebody like that? Right?

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Speaker 1: Probably you don't think there's some guys who got called

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Speaker 1: first and said, m sure. And I'll say this if

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Speaker 1: We're gonna might interview you for our offensive coordinator position.

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Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, okay, what's what are gonna be the parameters?

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Speaker 1: He as well, we want you to work with Zach

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Speaker 1: I've seen the guy play. No, yeah, I can't. I

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Speaker 1: I can I got a chance with desha or I

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Speaker 1: don't want to. Yeah, I've got a I gotta. I

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Speaker 1: got a chance with Deshaun Watson. We struggled at the

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Speaker 1: end of this season. We're gonna get better. I got

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Speaker 1: a chance here. I'll just wait. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be waiting a little while before they get somebody to

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Speaker 1: take that gig. It is Friday, which means the obl

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Speaker 1: them off at us and we'll be happy to answer

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Speaker 1: those for you. We also have coming up in just

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Speaker 1: second hour of the show. As always on Friday, we

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Speaker 1: dice up the xs and os on this Bills Bengals matchup.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break here and we also have

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Speaker 1: Soundbits on the way as well, Steve, so that'll be

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Speaker 1: coming your way as well. But Jordan Palmer coming up

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Speaker 1: in short order here on a Friday edition if One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kaloid of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to One of Bills Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. We'll have Jordan Palmer with us

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Speaker 1: in just a few minutes. In the meantime, we want

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Speaker 1: to take you into Buffalo's locker room. In this week's

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Speaker 1: edition of Soundbits, presented by Tim Horton's Wide Receiver Isaiah McKenzie,

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Speaker 1: head coach, Sean McDermott, quarterback Josh Allen, and more dish

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Speaker 1: out their thoughts on Sunday's Divisional playoff game with the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. I feel like we were ready the first time,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's playoffs and we have no choice about

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Speaker 1: to be radio. We're going home, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: now it's it's more important than ever. So it's go

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Speaker 1: out there and you know, thought what we thought, think

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Speaker 1: what we thought in the first game, and they bring

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Speaker 1: it to this game and a lot more so we understand. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: every week is important, Every game is important at this point,

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Speaker 1: and everybody's trying to get to the big stage. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like you gotta take it one play at

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Speaker 1: the time, more prot in the top and you just

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Speaker 1: do a job to help the team win, you know.

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Speaker 1: I just I think you just you look at two games,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure they're they're doing the same and

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, you try and shape a good

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Speaker 1: game plan based on on you know, the footage you have.

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Speaker 1: You'll pick some stuff here and there. You know, we

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Speaker 1: only had eight plays in the game and so when

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Speaker 1: you go back and you look at those eight plays,

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Speaker 1: you can kind of get a sense of you know,

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Speaker 1: and they're they're feeling the same way. You know, get

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Speaker 1: a sense of how they were trying to attack us

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Speaker 1: in the same vice versa how we were trying to

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Speaker 1: attack them. And so obviously, you know, probably a couple

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Speaker 1: more wrinkles here and there for both sides of the football. So, um,

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Speaker 1: like I said, we're excited about the opportunity. It's a

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Speaker 1: good football team. We're a good football team too. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a hell of atmosphere and we're excited to play.

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Speaker 1: Um No, I feel like preparation said the same. They're

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Speaker 1: a great team. We give them credit. We know how

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Speaker 1: good they are. We respect everything about them. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a fun uh Sunday at three pm. So we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens. Yeah, I mean we only had um,

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Speaker 1: you know, one drive against them, so it's kind of

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Speaker 1: hard to take anything away from that. And um, you know,

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Speaker 1: and um, there's not much carry over in terms of

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Speaker 1: what our offense does and their offense does. So it's

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Speaker 1: kind of you know, original game plan thought and again

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Speaker 1: making adjustments on the fly. You know, they've they've played

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Speaker 1: certain teams certain ways, and um, again they can come

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Speaker 1: out and play as completely different than what the first

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Speaker 1: drive you know said that they were going to play us.

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Speaker 1: So again it's just being being smart, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: decision wise, trying to find the open guy, um, getting

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Speaker 1: trying to be a balanced offense against this team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean after the whole week is studying and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff, you know, you start to learn a little bit. Now,

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Speaker 1: we didn't get to play them obviously, but after another

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Speaker 1: week that we're gonna have a full start and it'll

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Speaker 1: hopefully feel like we know them pretty much. So you know,

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Speaker 1: for those many players that we play, you know we

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Speaker 1: would we definitely is a physical game what they can

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Speaker 1: do on offense and defense. So for us is going

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Speaker 1: out there, you know, being ready for it to go

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Speaker 1: for a whole six weeks. I'll definitely say, you know,

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Speaker 1: just taking his lineman and put him in his face.

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Speaker 1: You know, whether that's getting the ball out quick and

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Speaker 1: you know us batting the ball up in the air

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Speaker 1: All right, So that is soundbits presented by Tim Horton's Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the popular question this week for the offense has been

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Speaker 1: how much are of all the preparation you put in

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Speaker 1: in week seventeen carries over to now three weeks later,

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Speaker 1: if at all. Yeah. While I think it gave him

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Speaker 1: a jump start, I don't get the sense they're pulling

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Speaker 1: too much from that. I mean, the matchups could change.

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Speaker 1: Perfect example, Sam Hubbard, they're one of their top pass rushers,

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Speaker 1: was inactive for that game due to an injury three

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. He's healthy now he's part of the equation.

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Speaker 1: You got to adjust. Yeah, there's some stuff that offensively well,

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Speaker 1: they play five plays something like that. Bill's had one

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Speaker 1: possession since he was in the middle of the second one,

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Speaker 1: not even the middle. They just getting started. So it's

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Speaker 1: not much you can take out the game plans. A

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Speaker 1: lot of the stuff you had in week seventeen probably

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Speaker 1: gonna use because he never got to it. And plus

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Speaker 1: hard to take away. When Cincinnati played the same team

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Speaker 1: Baltimore twice in a row week eighteen and then Wildcard

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Speaker 1: round and the first week eighteen game was like meaningless. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's just not much you can glean from that that's

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Speaker 1: going to change Now the endgame adjustments and personnel differences,

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Speaker 1: that's a different story. It becomes about matchups, which is

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Speaker 1: what we've always heard about the Bills offense, and certainly

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Speaker 1: it is for the Bengals offense and their offensive line

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Speaker 1: of the Bengals is going to be vastly different. Like

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Speaker 1: you said, their defense got a little bit healthier, while

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Speaker 1: their offensive line obviously is way behind where it was.

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how that affects it. But

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Speaker 1: I think that's what the players will do. Now, they'll

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Speaker 1: go back, I can refresh their memory on what their

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Speaker 1: game plan was in that week seventeen. They'll evaluates to

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Speaker 1: what they need to change. The coaches will and if

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Speaker 1: they do, they will. But man, you can really hone

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Speaker 1: see when you line up, and that's a little bit

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Speaker 1: different than most games. We have to take a break here,

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Speaker 1: and during that break, we'll connect with Jordan Palmer, quarterback

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Speaker 1: coach and former NFL QB to join us here on

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Speaker 1: the show to talk Burrow and Allen. We'll do that

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Speaker 1: the quarterback coach and former NFL q be He's this

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Speaker 1: guy's busy Steve. He's he's now the director of quarterback

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Speaker 1: Development for the XFL and he co hosts The Room

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Speaker 1: podcast with NFL quarterback Kyle Allen. It is Jordan Palmer

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Speaker 1: joining us. Friend of the show, Jordan, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for giving us some time. I'm doing great. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Busy's Busy's a good word. He's a good word, but

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Speaker 1: it's also a good good thing to be. So are

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Speaker 1: you guys doing? You guys loving it? This is uh

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Speaker 1: you guys been talking for months now about weeks like this.

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Speaker 1: Flip this in interview around you guys pumps. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can't imagine. In fact, we're so pumped that were

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Speaker 1: you know, we're full of angst M the problem with

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Speaker 1: these games like this, Jordan. You know it, you have

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Speaker 1: a great season, You're thirteen and three and you're you're

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Speaker 1: hitting on all cylinders. Even when you don't play well,

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Speaker 1: you score thirty points. I mean, it couldn't be better.

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Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden, you look over and

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Speaker 1: there's another team that is exactly like you that you

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Speaker 1: have to beat. You don't get it when you get

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Speaker 1: to this point of the playoffs, you don't get to

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Speaker 1: meet those two and fourteen teams that are struggling. You don't. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's some worthy adversaries out there for the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: and that's what's that's what's so great about this sport.

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Speaker 1: Right we saw the other side of what this looks

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Speaker 1: like at the college level with that championship game, and

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Speaker 1: we see it in the NBA, but you know, recently,

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Speaker 1: to think of the uh, you know, any Bills fans

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Speaker 1: gonna never forget, you know, the way the season ended

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Speaker 1: last year. And that wasn't even the AFC championship of

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that ended in the divisional round. So

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Speaker 1: there's so much at stake when you get to these playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and um, you know, so much has gone into it

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Speaker 1: for everybody, so many fans have put so much into

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Speaker 1: it that what's fun is all that stuff kind of

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Speaker 1: goes out to winning. Now, you just gotta play your

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Speaker 1: best ball. And you know, everyone can say take it

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Speaker 1: one game at a time or one play at a time.

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Speaker 1: I think that's really easy to say, and most people

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Speaker 1: would believe that that's how you win, but the elite

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Speaker 1: teams actually do it, and um, and so now's a

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Speaker 1: but now can you really actually go one play at

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Speaker 1: a time, one quarter at a time, one series at

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Speaker 1: week from the media was naturally the turnovers. He's had

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Speaker 1: the same time, I think Josh is one of the

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Speaker 1: what he said. You know, he's not going to let

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Speaker 1: the negative plays affect his approach, and you cannot do

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Speaker 1: that in the postseason. Knowing him like you do, though,

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Speaker 1: and knowing how sometimes he can be hyper competitive. I

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Speaker 1: if Josh's own I wonder if Josh felt challenged by that, like, oh,

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00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: you don't think I can hit this again? And that's

635
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: why he went down field as much as he did,

636
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: even after he had a lot of success and they

637
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: were up seventeen nothing. Is there a recognition of time

638
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: and score that has to work itself into a quarterback

639
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: psyche in those situations. I think it's easy to say,

640
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: you're up, protect the lead, you're down, let's let it rip.

641
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: But the reality is is when you call a play,

642
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: that play you have an idea and what you want

643
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: in that play. And I can think back to a

644
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: few years ago when when Josh got his breakout year

645
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 1: early in the season, they were playing Miami and we're

646
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: up big and he had a Stefan Dicks deep down

647
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: the field. I don't remember what the score was, you

648
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: guys might, but it was at Miami, I believe. And

649
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: then I think they were up you know, two or

650
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: three scores and they take a shot and Josh missed

651
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: Stefan Dicks. You guys, remember what happened on the next play,

652
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: I honestly don't. They came right back and dial it

653
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: up again and hit it. And there was that mindset

654
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: of we think they're playing a coverage that this play

655
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: is gonna work against. So what's the read on this play? So?

656
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: I mean with young quarterbacks, no, you want to think

657
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: about being informante offense and protecting lead beads. Gosh, this

658
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: Bill's offense is the defense, regardless of what the score is.

659
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: And you want to make great decisions and deliver the

660
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: ball with timing and accuracy. One of the things you

661
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: know this game really, I mean, it's brought into focus

662
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: by Josh and Joe, and since you've worked with both

663
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: of them, give us the ups and down, strengths and

664
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: weaknesses of both these guys. And more importantly, each coaching

665
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: staff has to handle these guys differently, right, I mean,

666
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: what has the Bills and Bengals coaching staff been able

667
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: to do to maximize both these guys and their different skills.

668
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: I think it starts with all the success in any

669
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: of these teams starts with leadership at the right ownership

670
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: level front office. And so when I think of what

671
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 1: you know, Brandon bean and and uh, the family, they've done,

672
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: Josh all of it, right, there's a lot of pieces here.

673
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: Some people aren't even there anymore, right, is it started

674
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: with understanding his strengths and weaknesses and building around that.

675
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: So part of that is the play callers and the

676
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: way the way they're designing the offense. Obviously the personnel

677
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: around them, but I think it goes all the way

678
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: down to people like Matt Barkley being in the room

679
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: with them, you know what I mean. So it's it's

680
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: they really surround the good teams that have the premier

681
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are going to sign big extensions or have

682
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: signed big extensions. There's certainly talent, and there's work ethic,

683
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 1: and there's all those things there. But what you see

684
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: is you look at everything that surrounds that quarterback and

685
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: you go, good decision, good decision. That was a good call. Yeah,

686
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: that's the right person. And so I look at both

687
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: these teams and I go, well, so Joe has an

688
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: offensive minded head coach. Um, you don't have to have

689
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: it right, Josh as a defensive minded head coach. And

690
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: this has gone really well, but with Joe on the

691
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: other side of it, because Bills fans are familiar with.

692
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: I could go down the list of the great things

693
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: that the Bills have done to surround Josh, but everybody's

694
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: familiar with those, but Joe. You know, it's te Higgins

695
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: that same year getting a rookie receiver and then the

696
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: next year getting Jamar Chase, who's not just what he is.

697
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: He also they have that chemistry. You know, they loaded

698
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 1: up on line and defense and free agency, spending free

699
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: agency last yek like I never have before. And I'm

700
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: very familiar with the Bengals organization. And then just some

701
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, the backups they have around him, and they

702
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: just they've just done a great job of supporting him,

703
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: getting like minded guys. And so you know, this game

704
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: and then whoever wins this game and the next game

705
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: versus probably Kansas City, And honestly, what Jacksonville is for

706
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: one year now starting to do is really at the

707
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: ownership level, build around the quarterback. And so I just

708
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: think when you do that, you're gonna have a chance.

709
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna be in every game and have a chance

710
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: to make a run at the end, And to be honest,

711
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: that's about as tie I have a goal, as you

712
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: can ask for a year to year, is to be

713
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: in every game with a chance to make a run

714
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: at the end. Jordan, I know that Joe leads the

715
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: league since twenty twenty with seven touchdown passes of forty

716
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: yards or more. He seems to get more from his

717
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: guy's yards after catch than Josh does, who is kind

718
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: of more of a put it on the receiver type thrower,

719
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, rather than leading a guy into space. Maybe

720
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: as much as Joe is. You can agree or disagree

721
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: with that. It's just from a bird's eye view and

722
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: an untrained eye view. I'm wondering, though, it seems like

723
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: Burrow has incorporated a little bit of the Brady approach

724
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: to his passing game. It's really not all about those

725
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: big plays. There's a lot of short to intermediate stuff

726
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: that has kind of kept Cincinnati on schedule a lot

727
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: this season. I'm just wondering if if you felt that

728
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: was a major change, or maybe he's always had that

729
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: in his game. I think Joe's ad that this game.

730
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 1: I started working with him as junior year at LSU

731
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: and you know, certainly he's elevated his game year to year.

732
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: But you know, part of that is the personnel. I

733
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: think there's three, four, maybe five depending on who you

734
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: factor in here, people who can score from anywhere on

735
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: the field, like at any point. Right, there's the league's

736
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: full of fast guys. But I think you're really talking

737
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: you know, Jamar Chase, Tyree Hill, Lamar Jackson. If you

738
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: want to put a quarterback in there, you know there's

739
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: a couple of guys who can just they can score

740
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: from anywhere. You know, they can actually break five tackles

741
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: to sport, right, So Jamar Chase is one of those guys.

742
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: So I think you're gonna get a lot of yards

743
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: after catch when you have that guy on your team.

744
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: But what Joe does is and I'll say both of them.

745
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: You know, I work with quarterbacks of all ages. I

746
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: run QB signed. It's a tour going around the country.

747
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: I see, you know, middle school and high school kids

748
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: as well. I've got a couple of really high picks

749
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: in my draft class right now. I just left the

750
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: field going from one to another. Is what I see

751
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: is the evolution of quarterbacks. And both these guys are

752
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: examples of this when you're getting elevated at the high

753
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: school level, right, you go from a three start to

754
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: a four star, a four start to a five star,

755
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: you go from an offer from a mid major to

756
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: five SEC offers or big part five offers. When you're

757
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: elevating as a young quarterback, you're usually getting elevated based

758
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: off of your playmaking ability. Okay, nobody says, look at

759
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: this five star quarterback, he's the best checkdown shallow cross

760
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: thrower I've ever seen. Doesn't really make plays, but man,

761
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: he can get rid of that ball quickly, right, says

762
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: no one ever. So what happens is is you're rewarded

763
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: for that. Right. Then you go to seven on seven tournaments.

764
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: You're rewarded for them. Right. Then you go to college

765
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: and you start to you take your playmaking what you

766
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: got you there, and then hopefully you go to a

767
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: place that starts to teach you how to be a

768
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: distributor of the football. Sometimes checking it down is the

769
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 1: great play, right, Sometimes throwing that ball out of bounds

770
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: is the best play you can make on that play. Okay,

771
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: So you learn how to become a distribute to the football,

772
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,959
Speaker 1: and then when you go to the NFL. The game

773
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: is predominantly about distributing the football and making a play

774
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: when you need to. And there's some great quarterbacks like

775
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: Tom Brady who distribute the football and honestly don't make

776
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: that many great plays. Like they tell me the time

777
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: that you saw Tom Brady hurtle over a guy, chook

778
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: another and rip and sixty across his body. Right, it

779
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: just has Well, what's happening with Josh and Joe and

780
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: Patrick and these these elite young guys in the league

781
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: right now and Herbert and you know I can keep going,

782
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 1: is they're really quickly becoming distributors of the football. Now,

783
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: that takes buy in, but that takes phenomenal coaching early on.

784
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: That takes a Brian Dable and a Ken Dorson right

785
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,479
Speaker 1: to teach you how to distribute the football. Even having

786
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson in the room his first year helps you

787
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: learn how to distribute the football. You think case Keenum

788
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: is where he is right now because his playmaking ability

789
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: or his ability to distribute the football makes sense. So

790
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: when you start really learning how to distribute the football.

791
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: And I think Steph Curry is another great example of this.

792
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: He led all of college basketball and attempts. He was

793
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: top four and scoring. He was top three and threes

794
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: at Davidson University. But what's the evolution of step Curry's game.

795
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: He's been coming an incredible passer, incredible at spacing, incredible

796
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: at using defenders get other people open. And I think

797
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: that's what we're seeing out of Josh Joe Patrick. These

798
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: guys who can make a play when they need to,

799
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: but the foundation of their game is they know how

800
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: to distribute the football. As we get into this game

801
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday, it has been said now that

802
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: Jonah Williams, a left tackle for the Bengals, is out,

803
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: Kappa is out there right guard they've got, and then

804
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: since week fifteen they also lost Lyle Collins. Three offensive

805
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: linemen are going to be out of this game for

806
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Now, certainly they've got a whole week to

807
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: rev up for it. But how does that change the game,

808
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: particularly not just you know, for one series when a

809
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: guy comes in and finishes, But this is the four

810
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: quarters of a football game, you know how over the

811
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: course of an entire game. How does that change it

812
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: for these offenses? Well? I didn't I think it does

813
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: change it now I think there's another stat that Joe

814
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: is the least sacked quarterback over that last four game

815
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: span too. Something I heard something like that. I'm not

816
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: a stack guy, but so they've they've they've managed, meaning

817
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: they've done a good job with it. Now this will

818
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: be new though for for Cincinnati. Um, I assume that

819
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: I would assume that game sold out? Is that right?

820
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm kidding. So that's gonna be loud, right,

821
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: And so silent cadence is not something that's practiced with

822
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: the two's in practice, you know what I mean? So, um,

823
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: that that noise, that getting off the ball, that rush

824
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: you know at Oliver's gonna feel quick, you know these

825
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: guys inside. Um, so that's an element. And then also

826
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: just fatigue. You know, that's a long game. Those big guys, man,

827
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: they're on the move and it's gonna be a maximum

828
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: effort situation for every single person, every every position. So

829
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: o line, you know, to fatigue play a role in that.

830
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: Does Buffalo adjust you know, heavier bull rush early, those

831
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: types of things. Um, And so I think it's gonna

832
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: play a role. But I also think that Cincinnati's gonna

833
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: understand what the limitations they have better than Buffalo, is right,

834
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: You're gonna know what your own limitations are better than

835
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: your opponent's gonna know them. So I think they're gonna

836
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: do a great job like they have, you know, you

837
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: know Super Bowl run last year where they put their

838
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: their best players in the position to make plays and

839
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: then they protect the ones too or potential liabilities. And

840
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: I think great coaches do two things, and I try

841
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: and do this as a developer of quarterbacks. You want

842
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: to get the best out of the best, and you

843
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: want to get the most out of the least. Right,

844
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: So our best players, we need to get the best

845
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: out of them, and the guys who aren't capable of

846
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: helping us a whole lot, I need to get as

847
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: much as I possibly can out of them. And so

848
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: I think it will be one of those situations, and

849
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna see Zach Taylor and company, I think put

850
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: together a great game plan. Now they got to go

851
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: execute it. Jordan, thanks very much for the time. And

852
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: we know you're busy. You're literally going from one field

853
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: to the other, So thanks for carving out some time

854
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: for us to talk a little bit about Joe and Josh.

855
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: We know you'll be watching on Sunday. Yeah, this is uh,

856
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: this is some interesting, awkward fun one. Hey, how about this.

857
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: I coached my son's flag team first and second grade. Yeah,

858
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: and he picks. We were the Bills last year. We

859
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: won the championship. Not that anybody's paying attention, but we

860
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: did win that championship and he flipped just because he

861
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: has a couple of favorite teams. So we're the Bengals.

862
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: Who we play tonight? I'm gonna say the Bengals Bills.

863
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: We got Bengals Bills matchup. So you guys follow along

864
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: on my Instagram because I'm gonna be on Instagram stories.

865
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: This is like when you play mad to get somebody. Yeah,

866
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: the game's gonna go. We got Bengals Bills tonight at

867
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: Astancia Sports Parks. Good luck, good luck tonight, luck Man. Thanks, Thanks, Jordan. Thanks.

868
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: That's Jordan Palmer from QB Summit. Guy is neck deep

869
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: in quarterback development. He is killing it down out there

870
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: at West um. You know he's been working with Josh

871
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: for years. Joe Burrow I think hopped on board. I

872
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: want to say it's two years ago now, but he

873
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: said he's been working with him since his junior year

874
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: in college. Um, well, I remember reading a story about

875
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: Joe working with Jordan. I think it was Jeff Feldman,

876
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: journalist Jeff Feldman that wrote the story, and he came

877
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: to Jordan saying, Hey, I want a little extra my fastball.

878
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: And he went through the same thing that Josh did

879
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: when they kind of did digitally map your body and

880
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 1: try to maximize your throwing motion to put the most

881
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: velocity on the football as possibly. He had five miles

882
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: per hour to his throw. Yeah, that's significant. The guy,

883
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: the guy gets results for these dudes, and that's all

884
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: they want. They want to be the best version of themselves.

885
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: And he is an expert at it. He really is.

886
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: And the XFL hired him as their director of quarterback development,

887
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: right and that and that league is all about development.

888
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: It's interesting. Jordan's obviously a lot of people in football

889
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: know that Jordan's brother, Carson was the number one overall

890
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: picked by the Cincinnati Bengals way back in the day.

891
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: When he came out. Carson was said to one of

892
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: the reasons Carson was so good, big, tall, big arm,

893
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: beautiful throw. He was technically the most perfect quarterback anybody's

894
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: seen coming out, drop back, footwork, release arm, all of

895
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: that stuff. He had all the technical issues that were great,

896
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: and then he got attracted by the Bengals when they

897
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: were really not a good team, and he struggled for

898
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: most of his career and actually forced his way out

899
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: after ten years. But the d and Jordan was his

900
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: backup for a minute there in Cincinnati. They played together.

901
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: But Jordan knows, you know, it's all that. It's you know,

902
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: you start talking. It's a little bit like pitchers in

903
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: the major leagues. They started out well, he had his

904
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: release point and it's not that and they start talking

905
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: x you know, kind of pretty technical stuff. It all

906
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: goes into football in a game that's so free wheeling

907
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: like football can be. When they drop back, there's a

908
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: lot of technical issues. These guys know, and man o,

909
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: man do they get results. Listen, if you've got a

910
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: kid that can play quarterback, you need to get him

911
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: coached up because if he comes out of high schools

912
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: a five star, he's gonna be making seven figures. Yeah,

913
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: as as a nineteen year old, eighteen year old, it's

914
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 1: crazy with the nil stuff. It's it's nuts. It's pretty wild.

915
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: We have to take a break here though, because when

916
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: we come back, we are talking xs and ohs with

917
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: your friend and hours. Greg co Sell, senior producer from

918
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: NFL Films, makes his weekly appearance here to chop up

919
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: the xs and o's for Bill's bang goals. Next here

920
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: on One Bills Live is One Bills Live, presented by

921
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: Calia Health. All Right, here, we are our number two

922
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: on a Friday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you One

923
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: Bills Live, and we know what that means. It's our

924
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: weekly visit from senior producer from NFL Films and co

925
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: host of ESPN's NFL Matchup show. It's Greg Cosell joining

926
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: us in his weekly segment is presented by Scott lon Yard,

927
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: an official commercial site work partner of the Buffalo Bills. Greg,

928
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: A lot has been made of Josh Allen's turnovers from

929
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: last week, and we understand why it gives Bills fans angst.

930
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: I will say, I will say. The Bills when they

931
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: have three turnovers or more are four and one this season,

932
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: and three of those four wins have come in the

933
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: last three weeks. I know they might be playing with

934
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: fire here, Greg, but this is a team that seems

935
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: to find a way to get around it. Yeah, I mean, obviously,

936
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: no one wants turnovers, and you have to look at

937
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: each one. I've always believed as a separate issue. You

938
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: can't just look at a number on a page. As

939
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: we know, no coach wants turnovers. But you know, they're

940
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: a really interesting offensive team. I think both you guys

941
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: would agree that when you think of let's say, timing,

942
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 1: rhythmic offenses like the Niners come to mind, you probably

943
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't put the Bills in that category. But yet they

944
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: score a lot of points every week, and it's it's

945
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: they're kind of a to me, they're almost an admiration

946
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: at times. They're just different. But you know, they're very

947
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: quarterback centric, maybe even more so amazingly enough, more recently,

948
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: because Josh has really been pushing the ball down the field.

949
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: I mean that first interception to Xavian Howard, who was

950
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: definitely on Josh. That's on him because that was actually

951
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: a flood concept and he wanted to get the ball

952
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: to Dawson Knox and Knox was covered and John Brown

953
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: is really a clear out on that play and the

954
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: ball should never go to John Brown. But you know,

955
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: Josh thinks like that that's the way he plays the game,

956
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: but he also makes plays and throws that others won't make.

957
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean the touchdown he threw to Gabe Davis, which

958
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: I guess put them up by ten at that time. Correct, Yes,

959
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 1: I believe that made it twenty four. I'm not sure

960
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: how many guys even attempt that throw, much less make

961
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: that throw, so obviously it's a balancing act. Their offensive

962
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: times looks a little I always try to think of

963
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: the right word, you know, fractured, whatever the word might be,

964
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: but it's yet they score a lot of points. Yeah,

965
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: I've been throwing this stat around anybody who listen. Maddie

966
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: Glab gave it to me. The Bills are four and

967
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: one in games where they turn the ball over three

968
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: times or more three times. If they turn it over

969
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: three times, they're four and one in games like that.

970
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: The rest of the league is twelve and sixty two.

971
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: So you can say that they're you know, living on

972
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: borrow the time, you can slicing any way you want to.

973
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: But to me, that shows an enormous margin of error

974
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: for this offense that maybe other teams don't have, and

975
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: maybe that is a reflection of Josh and his ability

976
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: to make plays. But they never lose a game by

977
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: more than a couple of points. If they do, it's

978
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: an overtime touchdown. And they're twenty five and four over

979
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: their last twenty nine games. I mean, they are a

980
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: tough team to beat, and Josh has big play in

981
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: These throws that he makes are a big reason why

982
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: without question. I mean, think back, when was the last

983
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: time they had a bad game. Whendn't you say that

984
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: was Indianapolis early last season? Midway? Other than that, I don't.

985
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't think they've had a game where even when

986
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: they've lost, and they haven't lost many, as you said, Steve,

987
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: they don't lose. By me, they're never out of games.

988
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: And say what you want about Josh, but he's the

989
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: kind of quarterback that makes it so that you're never

990
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: out of games. I mean, how many times in the

991
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: fourth quarter has he led drives? And the interesting thing

992
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: about that is he's led a lot of drives in

993
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter which have been in some ways what

994
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: would be considered anti Josh in other words, long, lengthy, methodical,

995
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: patient drives. Right, Brownie, I mean, you look at the

996
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: Detroit game, You look at the Miami game in Buffalo

997
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: when it started to snow in the fourth quarter. Those

998
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: are sort of anti Josh drives the way most people

999
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 1: think of Josh. You know, those are patient drives. So

1000
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, you can say what you want. And look,

1001
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: you guys know as well as I do. There are

1002
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 1: certainly some concerns on offense. I wouldn't say it's the

1003
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: most talented offense in the NFL by any stretch of

1004
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: the imagination overall, But they win in games, and they

1005
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: play and they never get blown out. Yeah. Looking at

1006
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: some of Josh's numbers from last week, though, Greg, he

1007
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: attempted twenty one throws of ten yards or more, thirteen

1008
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: throws of twenty yards or more. For those that don't know,

1009
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: that's a fat number. And I know it's because Josh

1010
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: Boy or the defensive coordinator for the Dolphins, for some reason,

1011
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 1: decided I'm going cover zero, I mean, anyway cover zero

1012
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: on third and fifteen. Greg, we never see blitzed on

1013
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: forty percent of his dropbacks. Do you attribute what Miami

1014
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: was doing as the sole reason why Josh was chucking

1015
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: it down the field as much as he was. Look,

1016
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: I think we know, Brownie, that Josh has a really

1017
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: aggressive mentality that's probably not likely to change. So the

1018
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: opportunities presented themselves, he's going to take those opportunities. The

1019
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: third and fifteen you mentioned was the fifty two yard

1020
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: or to Dikes, and you know, he saw you know,

1021
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 1: covers zero. He had Digs matched on Howard and Diggs

1022
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: ran right by him and he made a great throw.

1023
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 1: Those are the throws that he makes. But I certainly

1024
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: think that his mentality is such that he's going to

1025
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: do that more often than not. You wonder if, if

1026
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: you know, earlier in the year, I would say, and

1027
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: I think you guys would agree, there were more rhythmic

1028
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: type throws where the ball was coming out and they

1029
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: were more sort of sustaining type throws. They still hit

1030
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: big plays, but overall there were more sustaining throws. Now,

1031
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: with the other thing to keep in mind, if you know,

1032
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: if Dawson Knox doesn't drop the touchdown and Shakier doesn't

1033
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: drop that, he probably throws for what four hundred and

1034
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: twenty five yards something like that. You know, so you know,

1035
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to say that he did not have

1036
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: a good game given the number of plays that he

1037
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: didn't make. How do you think the Bill's offense has

1038
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: evolved over the course of this year under Ken Dorsey.

1039
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: I mean they started out they hung thirty one on

1040
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: the defending World champions in week one, hung forty one

1041
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: on the number one seed Tennessee Titans in week two,

1042
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: and went on from there. Then Danio thirty eight to

1043
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: three over Pittsburgh early when you know, the Studs weren't

1044
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: quite themselves. But this is you know, this is a

1045
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: team that was you know, came out really efficiently early

1046
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: in the season. How's this evolved? And I get it

1047
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: Miami game was a little bit of an operation because

1048
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: of the defense they played. But you know, what do

1049
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: you think this offense has grown into this season with

1050
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: Ken Doran? You know, look, I can only be on

1051
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: it's based on on film study, and I would say this.

1052
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: I would say that it's probably too dependent on Josh

1053
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: Allen and because he's so highly skilled, I would still

1054
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: make the argument that in terms of pure physical talent,

1055
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: he's the best quarterback in the league. Now, others can

1056
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: discuss whether he's quote unquote the best overall, but just

1057
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: in terms of pure physical traits, I think he's the

1058
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the league, but I think they're so

1059
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: reliant on him. And here's here. That's how I would

1060
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: answer that. As far as the run game, I don't

1061
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: think there's a big connection between their run game in

1062
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: their past game, Steve. You know, I don't think you know,

1063
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: you look at some teams and you see that the

1064
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 1: pass game a lot of the concepts can work off

1065
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: what they do in the run game. I don't think

1066
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: that's really the case with Buffalo, and I don't know

1067
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: why that is. You know, I never place blame on coaches.

1068
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm not there through the process. So since I'm not there,

1069
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: I have no idea what's discussed or what's not discussed,

1070
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: or what the process is. But I would say that

1071
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: that's one area that just watching tape and seeing every team,

1072
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: that's something I think i'd like to see more of

1073
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: a better you know, I've used this word a couple

1074
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: of times this week and people have laughed at me.

1075
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: You know, they say, Wow, that's a big word to

1076
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: talk about football. But there's not a lot of synchronicity

1077
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: between the run game and the pass game, and you know,

1078
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: I think you'd like to see more of that. It

1079
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: might open up some more opportunities in the pass game

1080
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: that are easier throws where you don't have to push

1081
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: it down the field, you know, But I think that

1082
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: this offense has evolved steven to where they do push

1083
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: it down the field a lot, and Josh attempts a

1084
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: lot of those throws and because he can make them,

1085
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: and at times, does you know, it seems like everything's okay.

1086
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: I mean, the bottom line is this is the best

1087
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: third down offense in the NFL. And what does everybody

1088
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: say about third down? It's the quarterbacks down. So something

1089
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: is being done, that's right, But sometimes when you watch tape,

1090
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: it just seems like it's it's erratic. Let's let's put

1091
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: it that way, right. Let's talk a little bit about

1092
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: Bengals defensive coordinator Louanna Rumo, a guy that loves to

1093
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: disguise through tendency breaking. You know, he'll he'll try to

1094
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: anticipate or he'll self scout himself, realize what his tendency

1095
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: A tendencies are, break the tendency and yet disguise it

1096
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: some other way to confuse opposing quarterbacks. Is it's safe

1097
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: to say that Josh and Ken Dorsey are absolutely going

1098
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: to have to adjust in game this week, maybe more

1099
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: than ever. I would say that's fair. You know, again,

1100
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: you don't know until the game's played. But that's been

1101
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: Lou and Ramo's m o. You know, we've seen him

1102
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: make meaningful adjustments, adjustments throughout the course of the game.

1103
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: Certainly when they play Kansas City that comes to mind.

1104
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: But when all's said and done, they end up playing

1105
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 1: a lot of single high safety, and I think there's

1106
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: ways to attack that, and I think you have to

1107
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: think in those terms that you have to have some

1108
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: three high beaters. They play a lot of Cover three.

1109
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: You know, there's route concepts such as flood, which we've

1110
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: seen with the Bills. They tried to get Dawson Knox

1111
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: involved with those route concepts. I can remember the forty

1112
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: five yard or against Miami in that same game where

1113
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: it's not in the fourth quarter. That was against Cover three.

1114
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: I remember he hit digs for nineteen yards. I believe

1115
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: it was against New England early in that game against

1116
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: Cover three on another flood type concept. You know, there's

1117
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: always routes to attack certain coverages. I guess it'll depend

1118
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: on how the game goes, Brownie, on what Lou and

1119
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: Ramo does I mean, you know, if the Bills all

1120
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, have fourteen points after three drives,

1121
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: he probably has planned b ready to go. You know,

1122
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: if all of a sudden were in the second quarter

1123
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: and it's a six three game, he probably feels like

1124
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: there's not a lot he has to change. Now, give

1125
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: me an idea of what you thought about the Bills

1126
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: defensive secondary in this last game in the wild Card

1127
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: against Miami. Certainly Skyler Thompson was not gonna maybe light

1128
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: it up, but how did the Bills play the Dolphins

1129
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: with the two really the two most dangerous guys on

1130
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: the field for the Dolphins were there two wideouts and

1131
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: it was just a question of whether Skylor Thompson was

1132
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: going to be able to get him the ball enough.

1133
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts about the way the Bills secondary

1134
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: held up well. I thought they knew that and their

1135
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: highest percentage coverage was split safety zone, which was dominant

1136
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: on third down, although there were selective snaps of man coverage,

1137
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: snaps of two man cover one robber. I thought that.

1138
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: I thought that once Elam came in, I thought he

1139
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: played well. I thought that is the kind of game

1140
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: where you know, watching his tape in college. Being long athletic,

1141
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, I thought he played well. You know, you're

1142
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: always going to get a solid performance from White. You know,

1143
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: every once in a while you're gonna get beat up

1144
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: by guys who can run like that. That happens. They're

1145
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: going to need a really good performance again against three

1146
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: really good receivers. And you know, you guys know how

1147
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: I feel about to Ron Johnson. I think he's one

1148
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: of the best slot corners in the game. They obviously

1149
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: think so in Buffalo because he plays every snap. You know,

1150
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: the interesting matchup to me in this game, guys, is

1151
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: the Bill's pass rush. They need to generate some kind

1152
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: of pass rush against three backup offensive linemen. Now the

1153
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: Bengals know this, and and Borrow the last two weeks

1154
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: has been very conservative. He's been getting the ball out.

1155
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: He hasn't taken the vertical shots, which we've seen throughout

1156
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: much of the year. And by the way, that doesn't

1157
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: mean he's not going to do that this week. You

1158
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: never know. All bets are off. It's a playoff game.

1159
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: You don't know. All you have is what has happened prior,

1160
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: but you don't know what's going to happen in this

1161
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: game because Burrows throughout the year until recently was very

1162
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: aggressive when he had what he saw one on one

1163
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: outside the numbers, he would take vertical shots and give

1164
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: Higgins and Chase a chance to make plays. So he

1165
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: certainly could do that again. But I think they're their

1166
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: d line pass rush. However they choose to do it,

1167
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: whether it's four down linemen, whether it's three down line

1168
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: men with either Milano or Edmonds adding in as the

1169
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: fourth rusher, not the fifth rusher, the fourth thrusher, you know,

1170
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: somehow they have to get pressure. They have to defeat

1171
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: that old line. Speaking of their offense, greg running the

1172
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: football has been a slog for them all season long,

1173
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: whether they were healthy or not. Now they're not healthy.

1174
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: How much does that cater to the Bill's defense, potentially

1175
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: making the Bengals more one dimensional than maybe they already are.

1176
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: And I think that's critical round because they do try

1177
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: to run it. It's not as if they never try

1178
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: to run it, and so you have to stop them.

1179
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: So you get to the second and longs in the

1180
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: third and longs, where at least their play calling will

1181
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: become more predictable. That has to be a major part

1182
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: of this game. This can't be the week that they

1183
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: get their run game going if you're a Bills fan.

1184
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: So that's critical because, look, every coach in the league

1185
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 1: will tell you, if you can get into long yarded situations,

1186
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: you feel like as a defensive coordinator that you have

1187
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: the advantage. Your playbook becomes wider and bigger, and there's

1188
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: more things you can do. We've seen Milano be really

1189
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 1: effective as a blitzer. We've seen Edmonds now being used

1190
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: at times as a blitzer to Ron Johnson coming off

1191
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: the slot, off the edge. So they've done a nice

1192
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: job with their selective use of pressure because as you

1193
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: guys know, they're not a high percentage blitz defense, but

1194
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: they do it selectively and they do it well. And

1195
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: what do you think that looks like against this offensive line?

1196
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: When they had the injury and Jonah Williams had to

1197
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: leave the game with a dislocated kneecap, it seemed to

1198
01:04:55,320 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 1: me Cincinnati's offense really dropped off. They stopped moving the

1199
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: ball consistently, they stopped scorn and they stopped scorn points.

1200
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: I guess the question is why, Well, they got very conservative.

1201
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, the longest passed by last week by

1202
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: Burrow is nineteen yards. That rarely ever happens, so you

1203
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: know they've gotten conservative. Obviously, they played an offense last

1204
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: week that was not likely to put up a lot

1205
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: of points. We'll see what happens this week. I mean, look,

1206
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: all we have is what's transpired up to this point.

1207
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: There's not many games. I mean, can you recall a

1208
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: game where the Bill scored ten points? I mean, you know,

1209
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: you would think that the Bengals are going to have

1210
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: to score in the twenties to compete and win this game, which,

1211
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: by the way, they can. I mean, this is not

1212
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: a gimme. You guys know that. But the point is

1213
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: is that they're going to have to score, and you know,

1214
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: unless the Bills really give them short feels, which could happen, obviously,

1215
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to move the ball and they're gonna

1216
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: have to score. And normally, to do that with any

1217
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: kind of consistency, you need some kind of explosives in

1218
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: your offense, and they really haven't played that way the

1219
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,439
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. Greg, do you have any other

1220
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: game besides this one that kind of intrigues you based

1221
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: on the matchups? Because I think most people feel this

1222
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: is the marquee one just because of the two young

1223
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks involved, but there is there a one I would agree. Well,

1224
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: just being in the Philly area, I'm obviously fascinated by

1225
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: the Philly game, but I would say the San Francisco

1226
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: Dallas game, probably from a tactical perspective, I find really intriguing. Yeah,

1227
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm wondering if this is the end

1228
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: of the road for brock Purty, who has been remarkably

1229
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: efficient as a starter, but I don't think he's seen

1230
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: a pass rush like this before. Yeah, but I will

1231
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: say this, Brownie, and you could be right, and you

1232
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: never know how a game plays out, and if they

1233
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: get into long yardage, you could one hundred percent be right.

1234
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: But the way the forty nine ers play offense, I

1235
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: think that actually puts a lot of pressure on Dallas

1236
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: because Dallas is very multiple upfront, and they have a

1237
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: really good pass us that attacks in many ways. But

1238
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: that's more of their second and long, third and long deal.

1239
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: You know, if the Niners can stay ahead of the change,

1240
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: which they do as well as any team in the league,

1241
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: as you know, then I'm really curious to see how

1242
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: Dallas plays, because that's not how they want to play

1243
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: on defense. They want to be in an attacking mode.

1244
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: And the Niners, with the way they play offense, really

1245
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: prevent defenses from being in an attacking mode. Why can't

1246
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: NFL defenses make Brock Purdy look bad? Well, I think

1247
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: there's probably a couple of reasons for that. Number One,

1248
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: the Niners play a ton out of twenty one personnel

1249
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: with two backs, use check and a tight end. So

1250
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: what do NFL defenses do in response? For the most part,

1251
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: they play their base defense, whatever it may be. In

1252
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: Dallas's case, it's big nickel with three safeties. But as

1253
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, Steve, most teams pressure fronts and pressure concepts

1254
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: don't come out of base, they come out of their sub.

1255
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: So a lot of teams get stuck. They're not sure

1256
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: how to match up. Do we play bass and then

1257
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, we could get stuck in the pass game,

1258
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, with the way they can line up McCaffrey

1259
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: and Samuel all over the formation. Do we play nickel

1260
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: because we're worried about all these pass weapons, But then

1261
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: we get mauled in their run game. But the bottom

1262
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: line point is most teams pressure packages do not come

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Speaker 1: out of their base personnel, right, so they have they

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Speaker 1: have struggle, not I mean teams struggle to put pressure

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Speaker 1: on Purty because they don't have the right people on

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Speaker 1: the field. Is that what you're saying, Yeah, to some degree,

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Speaker 1: I mean, sure, can you pressure at our base? Of

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Speaker 1: course you can, but that's not the way most teams

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Speaker 1: are structured. And then the other factor you have is

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Speaker 1: when they're in twenty one personnel, they have five eligible

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Speaker 1: receivers including use check. Now he's part of this that

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01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: can line up anywhere in the formation. So now all

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01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, you line up defensively and

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Speaker 1: here's McCaffrey split, and here's Kittle split on the other side,

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01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: and here's Samuel in the backfield, and here is Yous

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01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: checking the slot, and all of a sudden, now you

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01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: get into communication issues. So what do teams do, Steve,

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01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: as you well know because you played in a spread

1279
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: offense that probably forced defenses to do the same thing.

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01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: What do they do? They line up in what we

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01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: call their default defense, and forty nine ers know what

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01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: that default defense is going to be with pretty much

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01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: every team. So what does that do? Steve? It gives

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01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: Purty more information pre snap, and that's what you're trying

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01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: to do with your quarterback. Yeah, especially when he's a rookie.

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Speaker 1: So right, one last thing, So is Purdy has pretty

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01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: played as well as the other quarterbacks who he backed up?

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Speaker 1: Is he playing as good as Garoppolo did? Is he

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01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: playing as good as Trey Lance did before they got hurt?

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Speaker 1: Is he the best guy that has taken snaps for

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01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: them this year? I would say the answer is probably yes.

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Speaker 1: And there's two reasons for that, real quick. Number One,

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01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: he is very athletic and light on his feet. So

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01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: he's added the play action boot game and the second

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01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: reaction game Movement Game, which Garoppol could not give them. Right,

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Speaker 1: all right, great stuff, Thanks has always enjoy the games

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Speaker 1: this weekend, All right, guys, look forward to next week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see you. Then. That's Greg co Sale, senior producer

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Speaker 1: from NFL Films, also co host of the ESPN NFL

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Speaker 1: Matchup Show. You know you're talking. We've talked about this

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01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: game add nauseam this week. I don't know if I

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01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: have any greater clarity on it, Like I have some

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01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: notions as to what I think could happen. But it's

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01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: like Greg says too, like all we know is what

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01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: has transpired over the course of the season, and we

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01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: try to apply that to what could happen in this game,

1307
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: but we have no clue. It's amazing. I give I

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01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 1: give the Giants a better chance to go into Philly

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01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 1: and upset the Eagles and as a six seed than

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01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 1: I do the Jaguars going into Kansas City and upsetting

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01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: the Ones. What do you like about the Giants just there?

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Speaker 1: They don't make mistakes. I mean, you saw the Jaguars

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01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: throw four interceptions first half last week. You don't see

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01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: the Giants do that. And the Giants do things that

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01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: other teams do not like the Buffalo Bills due Daniel

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01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: Jones will tuck it under his arm and run. He's

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01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: part of their run game. And they have se Quon

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01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: Barkley who is a beast out of the backfield. They

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Speaker 1: have the ability to control the pace of their offense.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, and they don't really and so

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01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: the Eagles pass rush is a little bit negated by that.

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01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: So I like that matchup the Jaguars. I don't know

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01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: if the well, maybe they can maybe the Jags can

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01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: go in and score with the Chiefs in Arrowhead, because

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01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: that's what you gotta do, right, I mean we found

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01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: that out. Everybody's pointing to the first meeting between the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Jaguars, which happened earlier this season, and

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01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, Mahomes went off for four touchdown passes and

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01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: they kind of left him in behind, right. I think

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01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are a much different team now though it

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01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: was a twenty seven seventeen game. Yeah, and the Jags

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01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 1: are a different team, right. I think they're a much

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01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: better team now than they were back then. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying they're going to go in there and win,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think to be competitive. Um, the coaching

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01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: staff is. I think Doug Peterson's excellent. I think disciple

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01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: and he's excellent because he has his hand on the

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01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: pulse of that. He really gets his team. He did

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01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: that at Philly two when they won the Super Bowl,

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01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: and he also has it in Jacksonville. And now they're

1341
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: starting to respond and play well underneath around him. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know if their roster is where Kansas Cities

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01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: is and they're going to have enough horses to get

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01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: it done. But that's the game plan. I think if

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01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: you're Jacksonville, you gotta score with those guys. That one

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01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: could be a shootout too. We have to take a

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01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: break here. When we come back, we'll crack open the

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Speaker 1: OBL Friday fan mail bag answer some of your questions

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Speaker 1: here next on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, back here on one

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, cracking open the OBL Friday fan mailbag, and

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Speaker 1: we lead off with Mark, who asks, why are we

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01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: not seeing the type of passing game that we saw

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01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: against the Rams, short to intermediate passes than occasional shots

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01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: and deep routes, deep crossers, deep comebacks, deep outs, etc. Well,

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01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of times your approach is largely

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01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: based on the coverage you're seeing and the approach of

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01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: the opposing defense, the old take what they give you

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01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 1: kind of deal. And you know, I would expect the

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Speaker 1: Bengals to probably mix in a little single safety high,

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01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: but after watching Josh Chucket for three hundred and fifty

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01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: two yards and three touchdowns last week, they may be

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01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: more apt to play some other coverages as well, so

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01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 1: as not to invite him to beat them over the top.

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Speaker 1: Because I'll just say this. Their corners are good, they're

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01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: not outstanding. Eli Apple, Cameron Taylor, brit Or rookie. I mean,

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Speaker 1: all right, you know what I mean, Like, do you

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01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 1: want to play with that fire play single safety high?

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01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: I mean, most teams don't do it very often. They

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01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: all do it at some point, but they don't do

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Speaker 1: it very often for obvious reasons. It's a you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a roll of the dice defensively,

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Speaker 1: no matter how good your corners are. And I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you this. We're all we live in a

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Speaker 1: world of overreactions. Yeah, and everybody's like, oh my guys,

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01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 1: Josh is throwing it deep every single time he drops

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01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: back to pass. I'm like, listen, do you remember when

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01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: it came out Pat Mahomes. They're asking him a house,

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01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: can you throw it deep? He goes, Listen, if I

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01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: look out and one of my guys is single covered

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01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 1: on the outside, I'm throwing him the ball and I'm

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01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: going we're going deep. I am giving him a chance.

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Speaker 1: That's it. So Josh has got Steph Diggs, one of

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01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: the top three or four whiteouts in the game. Yeah,

1385
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna give the guy a chance, Gabe Davis. Two.

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01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: That's what these guys do. You can say what you want,

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01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 1: that's the way it goes. And when the Miami Dolphins

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01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,839
Speaker 1: come out and by the way, their coordinator got fired

1389
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: for doing it, it blitzed on forty percentage's drop backs,

1390
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: and you know he crushed them. So, I mean they

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01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: were a Dawson knocks drop and at Khalil Shakier drop

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Speaker 1: from having at least ten more points. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: talking forty four points. Yeah, so yeah, I mean it's yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too. You know, the Dolphins had

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01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: some drops too early in that game that might have

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01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: changed the complexion of that game. They sure did. They

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Speaker 1: make a difference, But I think it was more interesting

1398
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Speaker 1: if you think about how Cincinnati's gonna play defense against this,

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna defend this stuff a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be more about their front and

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01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 1: what the team's last couple of weeks the Patriots and

1402
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: the Dolphins did against Josh upfront rather than in the

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01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: back end. Because let's face it, we've got Steph Diggs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Gabe Davis is good and he's had some moments,

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01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,759
Speaker 1: but he's not as consistent as you know te Higgins

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01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: or Jamar Chase or Boyd. He hasn't had those kind

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Speaker 1: of seasons. You got to worry about Diggs and then

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Speaker 1: everybody else. You got these You know, the Cincinnati Bengals

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01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: might be thinking, I don't know, I think we can

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Speaker 1: handle those other guys, Cole Beasley, you know, a rookie

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01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: like Shakier. So I think they're thinking about defending Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: We heard Greg Cosell saying the Buffalo's offenses is quarterback

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01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: centric as any offense in the league. Maybe too much.

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01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: We've seen the last two teams the Bills played, the

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Speaker 1: Patriots and the Dolphins, teams with a lot of experience

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01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: against him hold him to less than twenty yards or

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01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: less rushing in both those last two games. They are

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Speaker 1: not letting him get out of the pocket and win.

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Speaker 1: That's something I think Cincinnati will look long and hard

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Speaker 1: at trying to duplicate Josh had four for twenty against

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Speaker 1: against the Dolphins and nine for seventeen against the Patriots

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Speaker 1: two weeks before. Something like that against pressure. Yeah no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about rushes, rushing attempts, and yards so that's

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Speaker 1: what it was gonna be. I think that's a way

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Speaker 1: to really curtail the fact that Josh tuck it under

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01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: his arm and run up the back of the defense

1427
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Speaker 1: defensive backs and gain a first down with his legs.

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Speaker 1: They don't want him to do that. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's I think more likely for us to see that

1430
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Speaker 1: against the Cincinnati defense rather than you know, cover zero,

1431
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: cover one. I think it's gonna be three man rushed

1432
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: with an aggressive spy, four man rushed with a spy.

1433
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 1: Somebody's sloughing off one of the running backs and catching up,

1434
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 1: you know, coming up into the pocket if they're blocking,

1435
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff like you used to call

1436
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: it the green dog, which is say I got man

1437
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: to man on Devin Singletary and the ball is snapped.

1438
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: I come up to cover him and he blocks somebody.

1439
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: Then I become a blitzer. I go for Josh Owen.

1440
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: If he's blocking, I'm gonna block. I'm gonna go after

1441
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. Oh, that's a possibility.

1442
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: I think that's where Cincinnati's focus is going to be.

1443
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be on the pocket where Josh is throwing

1444
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 1: it from, rather than worrying too much about the secondary.

1445
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: I think for them it's digs and a bunch of guys.

1446
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 1: I think. I think that's the way other teams see

1447
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: this offense. Jess in the Mailbag asks do you think

1448
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:28,560
Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer will return to Buffalo next year? Yeah? His

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01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 1: contracts up. I think he turns thirty two years old

1450
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 1: this calendar year. There have been injuries, but he is

1451
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: a productive player. I don't know if you can rule

1452
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 1: it out, but knowing the free agent dollars are probably

1453
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: going to Tremaine Edmonds, who at age twenty five, is

1454
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: just entering the prime of his career and is coming

1455
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: off a monster season, I don't know, it's possible. Maybe

1456
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: he agrees to come back on a one year deal

1457
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 1: just to maybe take another run at everything. You know

1458
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: with Micah Hide next year. I don't know, But a

1459
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 1: long term, fat contract, I just don't think it's good

1460
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 1: business for any football team to do that with a

1461
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: thirty two year old player. I think it's unless it's

1462
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback. If Jordan, Yeah, if it doesn't get a

1463
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: deal doesn't get done, I think coming back here and

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01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: Jordan Poy're playing here next year, it's gonna be one

1465
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: hundred percent up to Jordan Poyer. Yeah, they there's no

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01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 1: doubt in my mind that the Bills will make him

1467
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: an offer of some sort. What kind of offer that is,

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01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: who knows whether it's a one year or a two year,

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01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: or what the numbers are going to be, whether they're

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01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,759
Speaker 1: going to be significantly less than maybe a free agent

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01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: contract that he might land with somebody else. But you're right,

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01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: at thirty two years old, a little bit of an

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01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: injury riddled season, how you know how willing or team's

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01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 1: going to be to the roll out the red carpet

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01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 1: for him, and what the difference between that red carpet

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01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,759
Speaker 1: would be and whatever offer the Bills would offer, Because

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01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 1: there's no doubt the Bills want him. But like you said,

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01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: they're a mitigating circumstances. It'll be they'll make him an offer,

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01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: and they'll talk him through it and why they've offered

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01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 1: it to him, and he'll understand it, and whether he

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01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: thinks he can get more, which he probably will someplace.

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01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: It'll be whether he wants to be here more than

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01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: he wants to go someplace else and start from scratch.

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01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: So it will totally be one hundred percent up to

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01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer to consider the offer the Bills are going

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01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: to make, whatever that may be. Yeah, and that's how

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01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 1: Brandon Mean usually approaches the offseason. He says, Hey, this

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01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 1: is what we think your value is to us. If

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01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 1: you can do this is what we can afford based

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01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,639
Speaker 1: on some of the other considerations we have. If that's

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01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: good for you, then let's talk, let's get down to business.

1492
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: If not, and you want to see if you can

1493
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: make more money to do right by your family by

1494
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: all means, and if you can get it good for

1495
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 1: you right they They've done that with other players in

1496
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: the past who have gone elsewhere. Jennifer from the Friday

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01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 1: mail bag asks which receivers do you think will be

1498
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: on the roster for the game Sunday? Will they dress six?

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01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 1: I think it's a possibility, but I'm not convinced it

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01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: will happen. I think it's going to largely be based

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01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: on the game plan and the matchups that they feel

1502
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: where they feel they have advantages. If they think John

1503
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: Brown is a better option than Isaiah McKenzie, well then

1504
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 1: John Brown's gonna be up. You know. I was saying

1505
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: this this morning on the Howard and Jeremy Show here

1506
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 1: in Buffalo on WGR. I wonder if it's down to

1507
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: McKenzie and John Brown as to who's up and who's down,

1508
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: because I think Beasley and Shakier gave you enough last

1509
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: week to convince you to keep them in the lineup,

1510
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 1: didn't didn't they? Yeah, here's the thing. If it's if

1511
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: it's Digs, Davis McKinsey, you could still you could still

1512
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: activate Beasley, Shakier and Brown, and that's six, right, But

1513
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: now you're pulling from somewhere else. And if you take

1514
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: then you got to sit somebody. Whether it's probably a

1515
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: special teamer, Yeah maybe maybe. If it's was it gonna

1516
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: be Taiwan Jones? I don't know, is it gonna be?

1517
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah? Or do you go you'll have eight?

1518
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: You gotta have eight offensive linemen? Um? I think I

1519
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: don't know if they dress six. They have an all year,

1520
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: so it's probably five. And if it is, I think

1521
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: you're making a choice between John Brown and Isaiah McKenzie.

1522
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: And if you need somebody to at least threaten to

1523
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: take the top off a defense, and you want to

1524
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: move Digs around like in the slot and work the

1525
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: underneath the intermediate areas with him. Then you may need

1526
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: John Brown to kind of clear out space right and

1527
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: force defenses to respect you deep. You might make a

1528
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: choice between Cole Beasley and Shakir Beasley and Shakir and

1529
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: then work Hinds into that because he's fast enough to

1530
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: take the lid off. Could Hines do what McKenzie does

1531
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: right exactly? Maybe a gadget guy or whatever, or cook

1532
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 1: you know, because I think not for nothing, but I

1533
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: think Beasley and Shaquir showed you they can contribute, especially

1534
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: when that defense puts all its focus on digs and

1535
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 1: what are we what are we been saying all week?

1536
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: Josh needs more of the easy button completions and Beasley

1537
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: and Shakiir provide that. Do Beasley and Shakir outweigh mackenzie speed,

1538
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: I think? And or are they more dependable at this point?

1539
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's what they're gonna have to say.

1540
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't know it's five or six. I would say,

1541
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know. I just don't feel

1542
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:38,759
Speaker 1: like it's going to be six. I could be wrong,

1543
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 1: but we'll find out on Sunday when the inactives come out.

1544
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 1: Joe asks with the unpredictability of the offense late this season.

1545
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: Should the Bills do less guns slinging and rely on

1546
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 1: the d to make the difference, Bengals whole line is

1547
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: down three starters with the offense using more of their

1548
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: emerging running game, You're gonna have to score points to

1549
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 1: win this game. So relying on your defense and trying

1550
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 1: to win twenty to sixteen, that's just not the way

1551
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna win in the playoffs. It's just you're not.

1552
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: Just ask Tennessee how the playoffs have gone the last

1553
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: few years. Trying to take a conservative Baltimo approach and

1554
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: Baltimore they're at home, folks. That ship has sailed. I

1555
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 1: get it. You can't play that way anymore. I get it.

1556
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: You want to run the ball, and I get it too,

1557
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 1: because when you run the ball and you can run

1558
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: it really well and get first down stuff, the other

1559
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 1: team looks defense less. Yeah, I mean, just muscle your

1560
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 1: way through. We're gonna run the ball and win. We're

1561
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: gonna do it. You seem defenseless, and that's you know,

1562
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: that's always a great place to be for a fan.

1563
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: It's just not no, it's not more less gun slinging,

1564
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: less deep ball. Okay, take some easy, more efficient and

1565
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: the passing game. Certainly, sure, I can get there and

1566
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: let the big plays happen organically instead of trying to

1567
01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: manufacture them. But no, you run the ball if you

1568
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 1: can run it in spots where you think you're able to.

1569
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 1: But man, this is a this is a game where

1570
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: you got to throw the football and score points to win.

1571
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any two ways about it. Certainly

1572
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 1: you need to stress higher percentage throws in a game

1573
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 1: like this. If the Bills don't turn it over in

1574
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: the passing game, they're virtually unbeatable. They're unbelievably difficult to

1575
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,759
Speaker 1: win against because their defense is solid, more than solid.

1576
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 1: It's a top ten defense, top five defense, top three

1577
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: defense in a lot of important categories. They're hard to

1578
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: move the football against. So if you if the Bill's

1579
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: offense goes out and plays well and doesn't turn it

1580
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: over and give them short fields and stuff like that,

1581
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 1: they're really hard to get up on and beat. You

1582
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 1: just can't do it. So all of the things you said, yeah,

1583
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 1: it sounds all well and good, but your defense ain't

1584
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 1: gonna beat a team like Cincinnati to the point where

1585
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 1: you don't have to score points. Yeah, you may. You

1586
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 1: may hold since andna make him go the long way.

1587
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: May maybe make him punt you know a few times.

1588
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 1: Maybe you gotta score. You gotta score. We have to

1589
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 1: take a break here some final thoughts from the OBL

1590
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 1: Friday fan mail bag. Next here on One Bill's Live.

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01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: Stay tuned, all right, Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

1592
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Timmy from the OBL

1593
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 1: Friday fan mail bag asks who are your X factors

1594
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: for both offense and defense for the Bills in this game?

1595
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 1: Go Gabe Davis on offense and boogie bash him on

1596
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: whoo that's a little out of the Yeah, I'm gonna

1597
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:00,719
Speaker 1: go Ki your Elam on defense. No, No, I'm gonna

1598
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 1: switch that Greg Rousseau on defense, and I'll tell you

1599
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: why in a second. On offense, I don't know what

1600
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: it is, but I think the Beasley connection has been reignited.

1601
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: I see him getting a lot of easy button throws

1602
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: for Josh and this one, so I think he could

1603
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: be pretty active. The reason I picked Rousseau. Joe Burrow

1604
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 1: leads the league in batted passes twenty on the season

1605
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: and we know that Groot has a long wingspan. I

1606
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: really want, I really want them to kick him down

1607
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 1: inside a lot just to get his hands up, so

1608
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: he just shuts off the middle of the field. They

1609
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: don't even have to get to Burrow, you know what

1610
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, I get it. I get it. All

1611
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 1: sounds good when we're sitting here chit chatting about it. Well,

1612
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 1: the Ravens used odo fa oway yeah or o'dafe way.

1613
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't know where the accent on which syllable is

1614
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 1: phil forgive me, but oh way they would. He's a

1615
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 1: six four six five guy and they kicked him down

1616
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 1: inside and he was causing all kinds of problems for

1617
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 1: that old line for Cincinnati. So we got a guy

1618
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:12,719
Speaker 1: it's even taller than that. So right, yeah, so yeah,

1619
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm with you. We'll see this. The Bills must

1620
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 1: make hay against a hobbled Cincinnati offensive line. That's a

1621
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 1: critical component to this game. How much they can force

1622
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 1: Cincinnati to get out of their comfort zone in their

1623
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 1: offensive play calling because they can't protect as they want to.

1624
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 1: I think it's huge in this game. They have not

1625
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: been able to run the football effectively for a long time. Yeah,

1626
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: and they've got to take advantage of that. They can't

1627
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 1: let him get that on track, and they've got to

1628
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 1: get to Joe Burrow fast with as few of people

1629
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: as possible. We'll see, I mean, that's what it's going

1630
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 1: to take. It's getting to be a big one. Uh.

1631
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 1: This is this is this is what they call a

1632
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: big and uh, it's a it's a titanic tilt of

1633
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 1: a game. I know it's because it's playoffs to begin with,

1634
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 1: but just the fact that you got these two young

1635
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 1: qbs going at it for the first time technically because

1636
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: that game didn't count three weeks ago. I'll see you Sunday.

1637
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: It's pretty yeah, we will see you Sunday, and then

1638
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 1: Steve and I will see you on Monday at noon.

1639
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 1: Enjoy the game.