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Speaker 1: this point of the season, super Bowl favorites have emerged,
Speaker 1: and the NFC it seems like we have a couple
Speaker 1: of good candidates. You got the Buccaneers, you got the Packers.
Speaker 1: Cardinal's got to throw them in. AFC is a little
Speaker 1: less clear. You got four teams tied at eight and four.
Speaker 1: You got Chiefs, Titans, Patriots, Ravens all eight and four.
Speaker 1: Bill's face New England tonight right behind them at seven
Speaker 1: and four. I don't know if anybody's been consistently good,
Speaker 1: very good, excellent this season. The key for them is
Speaker 1: you got to get hot at the right time, and
Speaker 1: you also have to stay healthy or get healthier. The
Speaker 1: Patriots and Bills tonight is big, and everyone has to
Speaker 1: notice how well the Chiefs defense is playing after a
Speaker 1: slow start to the season, Like you can focus on, hey,
Speaker 1: that defense is getting a whole lot better, or you
Speaker 1: can go I don't know about that offense because normally
Speaker 1: when we think Kansas City, you don't bring up their
Speaker 1: defense unless it's one or two plays that are made
Speaker 1: to say win a Super Bowl. Getting to the top
Speaker 1: spot is so important this year because only the number
Speaker 1: one seed gets a buy and you have an even
Speaker 1: playing field now, so playing one last game in a
Speaker 1: seventeen game regular season is big. So the next five
Speaker 1: weeks are going to be interesting. Is the FC teams
Speaker 1: are trying to make a move to get in better
Speaker 1: position for the postseason. And there were a lot of
Speaker 1: takeaways yesterday. You know, the Steelers got by the Ravens.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of the Ravens. I
Speaker 1: don't know what to make of the Steelers. Chargers handle
Speaker 1: the Bengals, the Lions win, the Rams, role Seahawks over
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers. Just one of those weeks where
Speaker 1: you get a couple of surprises there. Look out for
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. They a playoff team, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: when they start out poorly and now they're playing well.
Speaker 1: They got a really good wide receiver in Jaylen Waddle
Speaker 1: two A plays well, playing enough good football to maybe
Speaker 1: keep that job. Do the Eagles have a quarterback controversy
Speaker 1: now with Gardner Minshew in instead of Jalen Hurts. Jalen
Speaker 1: hurts out. Gardner Minshew look great. Are the Chargers back?
Speaker 1: I don't know where they went? But are they back?
Speaker 1: Russ plays well? What does that mean? So there's a
Speaker 1: lot of questions here, and a lot of times when
Speaker 1: you look at a team when they get hot, when
Speaker 1: they're playing their best football. And you can go back
Speaker 1: to last year with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, because I
Speaker 1: didn't know at seven and five if they were going
Speaker 1: to be a playoff team, and then next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: they don't lose a game twelve games in. Now it's
Speaker 1: seventeen game regular season. So you start to look at
Speaker 1: that final three, final four games. Are you healthier? Are
Speaker 1: you going to get healthier? And what's your schedule look like?
Speaker 1: Are you going to have home field advantage? Those are
Speaker 1: the things that I start to look for here, and
Speaker 1: if you're going to handicap. Buccaneers look good. You know,
Speaker 1: granted they beat Atlanta, but I'm still waiting for them
Speaker 1: to play their best football. And I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen with Antonio Brown because there's a chance
Speaker 1: that he's going to get cut. Gronk comes in and
Speaker 1: scores touchdowns. But you know, Godwin is still good, Evans
Speaker 1: is still good. Is the defense where it was last year?
Speaker 1: Not that I've seen so far, but you start to
Speaker 1: look at this. I still like the Packers They've had
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries, but I still like what Green
Speaker 1: Bay has done continues to do, not losing Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: to a season ending injury, having Dylan in there to run.
Speaker 1: You know, those are important. In the AFC, everybody was
Speaker 1: trying to crown Buffalo to start the year. I didn't
Speaker 1: see it, but this is an important game tonight. This
Speaker 1: is one of those standalone games where everybody's going to
Speaker 1: have an opinion on Mac Jones tomorrow and an opinion
Speaker 1: on you know, how good Buffalo is in Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: Everybody's Josh Allen back in the MVP race, or maybe
Speaker 1: they're not as good, or maybe Jones is better than
Speaker 1: what we thought. Maybe New England is better than what
Speaker 1: we thought. It's like, you know, you don't bet against
Speaker 1: Belichick and Nick Saban, You just don't. You may pick
Speaker 1: against them, but on Friday I said, look, I can't
Speaker 1: go against Nick Saban, and I wouldn't go against Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: I mean, Georgia was the favorite and rightfully so it's
Speaker 1: still it's Nick Saban. It's just you know, the offense
Speaker 1: got shut down against Auburn. Did I expect them to
Speaker 1: explode against the best defense in football. I did not.
Speaker 1: But once again, it's Nick Saban, it's Bill Belichick. Somehow, someway,
Speaker 1: they find a way to win a game. Do I
Speaker 1: expect Belichick? And I thought they were a playoff team.
Speaker 1: I didn't think they were a super Bowl caliber team.
Speaker 1: Maybe they are. Maybe it's just it's begrudging that we
Speaker 1: don't want to admit that the Patriots are good. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: but you know, it was a better topic when they
Speaker 1: got to Brady. Brady goes to the Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: the Patriots, you know, trying to resurrect Cam Newton and
Speaker 1: that didn't go well. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you go, damn, he might have done it again. It's
Speaker 1: got a good quarterback, got a just enough offense, good defense. There,
Speaker 1: you throw in Belichick, and you've got an advantage over
Speaker 1: a lot of teams. This is you know, you don't
Speaker 1: want to you don't want to face them. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: just don't. You know, the Titans I'm not sure about
Speaker 1: without Derrick Henry. With him, I thought that they were
Speaker 1: a super Bowl caliber team. Colts, as long as Jonathan
Speaker 1: Taylor's running the football, I'm I'm right there with him
Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz. Just do enough, but don't do too
Speaker 1: much where you might lose a game. So trying to
Speaker 1: handicap all of this is that's what's the fun part
Speaker 1: of this. And even an MVP candidate, I normally don't
Speaker 1: talk to him about it week to week, but you
Speaker 1: start to think about who is the MV pick. Is
Speaker 1: it Brady Kyler? Murray's missed a couple of games, but
Speaker 1: it might be it's not going to be Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: They're not going to give it to Aaron Rodgers. Something
Speaker 1: might beat Tom Brady, you know, unless somebody says, what
Speaker 1: about Michael Parsons. I don't know, I mean put him
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, seton. Why does it feel like when
Speaker 1: you say that, like Tom Brady somehow backing into the
Speaker 1: MVP rather than playing into it. Well, I think that
Speaker 1: you would. You would look at the story and you go, Mann,
Speaker 1: of course, that's a great story MVP. I just don't
Speaker 1: know how the voters think, because the voters always want
Speaker 1: something new, something different. That's why we've had second third
Speaker 1: year quarterbacks and like, oh, this is the year for
Speaker 1: Josh Allen And sometimes that guy is right in front
Speaker 1: of you Yeah. It's like it's like there's this process
Speaker 1: of elimination where you're like, well, it can't be him
Speaker 1: because this so it can't be this guy because he
Speaker 1: miss gets So I guess it's Tom Brady who. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it might be. It might be has
Speaker 1: been the last couple of weeks. It certainly feels that way. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: nobody wants the Homecoming King to win the lottery. Brady's
Speaker 1: the Homecoming King. He's won everything. It's like, we're going
Speaker 1: to give another award? Can we give to anybody else?
Speaker 1: But he's totally deserving with age and stats. Well, you
Speaker 1: don't want to have the Homecoming King become Homecoming King
Speaker 1: again back to back. Yes, but that's what it feels like.
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Speaker 1: Nick Lovin. Okay, Paul threw out an interesting one that
Speaker 1: I couldn't answer. Who would you never doubt Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: or Nick Saban? If you had to pick one of
Speaker 1: the two, I would say Nick Saban because I think
Speaker 1: he has more control over the outcome of a game
Speaker 1: in college football, because there's only a couple of teams
Speaker 1: in college football who have his talent. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of teams who have a lot of talent, more
Speaker 1: talent than the New England Patriots. But I think when
Speaker 1: it comes to my talent is better than your talent,
Speaker 1: and then you factor in Saban on top of that,
Speaker 1: he's going to come out on top. I mean there's
Speaker 1: only what three four teams in America that come close
Speaker 1: to Alabama's talent, and then you factor in his expertise,
Speaker 1: I would say Nick Saban and watching the game, I
Speaker 1: just you know, you're trying to figure out do they
Speaker 1: have a really good defense a really good offense? Can
Speaker 1: they put both together? I mean they played a great game,
Speaker 1: perfect game there. I mean you go from number four,
Speaker 1: number three to number one, and you know this is
Speaker 1: where I get into this discussion all the time when
Speaker 1: people say why do you say it's a TV show, Well,
Speaker 1: this is why it's a TV show. Because Alabama goes
Speaker 1: to number one and Georgia goes to four. Are you
Speaker 1: trying to tell me that Cincinnati is better than Georgia?
Speaker 1: And the answer is Cincinnati is not. The reason why
Speaker 1: it's a TV show is because if you put Georgia
Speaker 1: at four, you know, and then they go to three,
Speaker 1: you can't have them at four. So they're at three.
Speaker 1: That way, they don't face each other. But if they
Speaker 1: went to four, then you would go, Okay, Georgia just lost.
Speaker 1: Should they go to four. Cincinnati's undefeated, they should go
Speaker 1: to three. Then you have one versus four. Again, they
Speaker 1: don't want to have that, so you make it a
Speaker 1: TV show. It's going to be Cincinnati versus Alabama, Georgia
Speaker 1: versus Michigan, so you don't have the rematch. The fact
Speaker 1: that you factor that in that you don't want to
Speaker 1: have a rematch tells you it's made for TV. HM.
Speaker 1: The club, I mean Michigan could be one, right, I
Speaker 1: was curious where you thought they belonged. Well, those are
Speaker 1: impressive back to back games, but I think the way
Speaker 1: Alabama won, I got a factory in history here. But
Speaker 1: Michigan did what, you know, I didn't know that they
Speaker 1: could do back to back great games. You know, I
Speaker 1: alway was not a very good team, good team, not
Speaker 1: a not a you know, really good team. You know,
Speaker 1: it's one of those. They got a good defense when
Speaker 1: they get takeaways. Other than that, I didn't like their offense.
Speaker 1: I didn't like their quarterback play. But Michigan is got
Speaker 1: a great offense and defensive line, and they run the
Speaker 1: football and I got a factor that in. And you know,
Speaker 1: going against Georgia is a great matchup there. Yeah, seat,
Speaker 1: But is Alabama being number one as simple as Alabama
Speaker 1: beat the number one team in the nation, whereas Georgia
Speaker 1: beat the number two. All right, excuse me, Michigan beat
Speaker 1: the number two. They beat Ohio State. So I mean
Speaker 1: it's just kind of if you're looking by rankings, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you would put Alabama up ahead of Michigan based on that, right.
Speaker 1: But Georgia gets blown out and doesn't go down to four.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati wins stays undefeated. But that's where they didn't want
Speaker 1: to have one versus four, Yeah, Paul, Yeah, we complain
Speaker 1: about college football being predictable. This worked out pretty well.
Speaker 1: You know, Clemson's not there, no offense, but Ohio State's
Speaker 1: not there, and they're almost always there. There were a
Speaker 1: lot of people rooting for Notre Dame this weekend, weirdly,
Speaker 1: and Notre Dame wasn't playing. They wanted Notre Dame in
Speaker 1: just to basically say, you know, stick it to Brian Kelly,
Speaker 1: you're gonna leave, You're gonna leave a Final fourteen. And
Speaker 1: but I do think if Oklahoma State did one, Oklahoma
Speaker 1: State might have jumped Cincinnati. I think that would have
Speaker 1: been the interesting thing, or would Notre Dame have slipped in? Yeah, McClellan,
Speaker 1: if you can only watch one of the two final
Speaker 1: four games, which one are you more curious about? Alabama
Speaker 1: Cincinnati or Georgia Michigan. Georgia Michigan. Yeah, I mean, do
Speaker 1: I expect Alabama to beat Cincinnati? Yes? Do I hope
Speaker 1: it's a competitive game, yes, m Georgia Michigan. Georgia defensive
Speaker 1: line versus the offensive line with Michigan running the football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you know Georgia's offense against Michigan's defense and
Speaker 1: those you know, two great defensive alignment that they have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: poll Alabama the early line is giving thirteen and a
Speaker 1: half to Cincinnati over hundred fifty eight Michigan Georgia. The
Speaker 1: over hunders only forty three point five, and uh, Michigan
Speaker 1: is getting seven and a half points from Georgia. A
Speaker 1: slap in the face. Okay, now we've buried the lead.
Speaker 1: Now you're from the Cincinnati area, the Metroplex. When they
Speaker 1: start doing celebrity fans of Cincinnati Bearcat football, you gotta
Speaker 1: be in the shortlist, the parade, the Yeah. But but
Speaker 1: I'm not a Cincinnati Bearcat fan. No, no, No, you're
Speaker 1: supposed to pretend you. Oh, no, I know. I went
Speaker 1: to day. We talked about this. No, I don't care.
Speaker 1: Dyton cannot play Alabama in the playoffs. They cannot. Alabama
Speaker 1: doesn't want any part dating football. Yes, let's be fair
Speaker 1: to date. No, I'm glad for Cincinnati, but I'm not
Speaker 1: a Cincinnati Bearcat graduate. Five weeks that's all we need. No, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think you know. Happy for them. Congratulations coach Fickle. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it wasn't dating basketball. Sort of headed towards the Final
Speaker 1: four that way, and they've lost the final four. That
Speaker 1: could have been your time. Yeah, yeah, COVID. COVID's the
Speaker 1: only thing that could stop dating. Basketball couldn't stop me.
Speaker 1: Actually I stopped me. Let me see, so we got oh,
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Speaker 1: know what, I was thinking, Jeff and Detroit calls just
Speaker 1: about every day, and he, you know, I don't have
Speaker 1: much to cheer for. I mean, he's a Detroit fan.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking, maybe I don't take Jeff's phone
Speaker 1: call today after the Lions one, you know, happy holidays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just that would be cruel and unusual punishment. Then
Speaker 1: I don't take Jeff's cruel but not unusual for us. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's true, because I said to Marvin, I said, Jeff's
Speaker 1: going to be one of the first guys to call in,
Speaker 1: right and I look at the callers. Jeff's on the line,
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Speaker 1: nbcn Peacock. I saw the promote, said Aaron Rodgers versus
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. I'm assuming Justin Field is going to be there.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing, is he? Although, if you're
Speaker 1: a Bears fan after the Andy Dalton performance, make of it.
Speaker 1: I like how mcloven gets so defensive about Andy Dalton.
Speaker 1: I go, yeah, for interception, well only twurs fault. I mean,
Speaker 1: do tip passes really count as interceptions? Yeah? They do.
Speaker 1: I blame this uniform. Nobody can seem to play quarterback
Speaker 1: in the Bears uniform. Wait, that's your that's your defense
Speaker 1: of Andy Dalton. He may have a point about that.
Speaker 1: With it. It's pretty good, oh you being a Bears fan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's bringing big Mike Golik Pro Football Talk Live co host,
Speaker 1: a former Notre Dame defensive lineman and a former Mike
Speaker 1: and Mike co host. You know, people say it's hard
Speaker 1: to get into Notre Dame, and I said, the Golik's
Speaker 1: all got into Notre Dame. So It's not that tough
Speaker 1: to get into Notre Dame, is it, Mike, No, No,
Speaker 1: it's really not. Dan, thanks for that. And by the way,
Speaker 1: had I had I had the insightful analysis of the uniform, Yeah,
Speaker 1: being the reason that the Bears and the quarterbacks aren't
Speaker 1: playing well, I may still have a job as a
Speaker 1: morning radio So that's what happened. That's what's Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was it. That's just not enough. Great uniform analysis got
Speaker 1: me booted. Yeah, yea, this just in we finally figured
Speaker 1: out what happened to Mike and Mike um lest They're
Speaker 1: a tactful way for Brian Kelly to leave Notre Dame
Speaker 1: that everybody would have been okay with. You know what,
Speaker 1: I find it hard to imagine there's any way because
Speaker 1: what do all these coaches say when they're in the
Speaker 1: living room, you know, of a of an eighteen year old,
Speaker 1: is I'm going to be your coach? I don't know
Speaker 1: of any that's sit in there. And maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm not in the living room where they say, you
Speaker 1: know what, come to my school and I might be
Speaker 1: there and I might not be, you know, for the
Speaker 1: next for your time there. So they all give the
Speaker 1: thought that they're going to be there, and then as
Speaker 1: far as leaving, what makes a tough dan is now
Speaker 1: it's less than two weeks away as the early signing
Speaker 1: period the NCAA did that used to be the February
Speaker 1: where he had a little more time. Now you got
Speaker 1: to have your ducks in a row then. So the
Speaker 1: only way I could think, listen, we're two guys from
Speaker 1: a different era. I don't think it can be it
Speaker 1: can be held off. Could Brian Kelly say hey to
Speaker 1: the ad, we're the only ones talking right now. My
Speaker 1: plan is to do this, but I don't need this
Speaker 1: out on social media. I need to go back and
Speaker 1: talk to my team first. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can do that anymore. I honestly do not know if
Speaker 1: you can do that anymore. I'm glad he went back
Speaker 1: to talk to him after the fact. He didn't do
Speaker 1: that when of less Cincinnati to go to Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: and I certainly had a problem with that. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's a tactful way with the timing of
Speaker 1: everything now in college football. And also everybody saw this
Speaker 1: with Cliff Kingsbury where they're the Oklahoma rumor and he
Speaker 1: doesn't deny it, and he didn't really push it to
Speaker 1: the side and say I'm absolutely not going to Cloma.
Speaker 1: It was like, okay, he's gonna use that to get
Speaker 1: a new deal with Arizona. What if Arizona just said
Speaker 1: you want to go coach in college, then go ahead.
Speaker 1: We got a young team, you know you want to go. Go.
Speaker 1: I think Cliff would probably take that chance. Uh see it.
Speaker 1: But but I get your point because you know you're
Speaker 1: basically and I don't blame listen, we at all. What's
Speaker 1: the greatest word there is in contract and talk. It's leverage,
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden you have other people after you,
Speaker 1: and you could you can go because contracts don't mean
Speaker 1: a damn thing as far as coaches are concerned, So
Speaker 1: they can go. So if you have a leverage, how
Speaker 1: many college coaches are going to get paid? Like mel Tucker,
Speaker 1: did you know because their name gets thrown out? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for me for Matt Campbell from Iowa State
Speaker 1: if he doesn't take another job to get paid. If
Speaker 1: you can use it to your advantage, so be it.
Speaker 1: But there is that side of it. If if they say,
Speaker 1: oh no, go ahead, you can go if you want,
Speaker 1: it would be really interesting what would happen? Then I
Speaker 1: don't expect that to happen, but certainly a team could
Speaker 1: say it. But if I'm Oregon and Mario Chrystal Ball
Speaker 1: wants to flirt with Miami, then I would say, go,
Speaker 1: given what you've produced the last two games against Utah,
Speaker 1: go feels like you're already out the door. So I
Speaker 1: guess the other side of that because we were talking
Speaker 1: about that with Jim Harball right where he would get
Speaker 1: them to nine ten wins a year, but he wasn't
Speaker 1: beating Michigan State consistently. He hadn't beaten Ohio State at all.
Speaker 1: He wasn't getting in a Big ten championship. He certainly
Speaker 1: wasn't getting in the four team tournament. So you would say,
Speaker 1: was it getting close for Jim to be gone? Because
Speaker 1: he was losing those big games? But then it's like,
Speaker 1: and I'd say the same thing with Mario, who are
Speaker 1: you getting? You know? Where are you going? Who are
Speaker 1: you gonna get? He's getting you right to the brink
Speaker 1: every year and at some point I know time will
Speaker 1: run out. But that's the first thing I always ask
Speaker 1: is like, Okay, where are you gonna go that's gonna
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're gonna beat Utah. You know
Speaker 1: this time? You know, is Mario crystal Ball the reason
Speaker 1: you're not beating Utah? And you could find somebody that can.
Speaker 1: How about Chip Kelly returning to Oregon. Boy, wouldn't that
Speaker 1: be something? It just certainly hasn't worked for Chip the
Speaker 1: way he thought it was going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: when he was running that offense. Aaron then brought to
Speaker 1: the NFL and it fizzled out there and then return
Speaker 1: to college. So listen, it would not shock me at
Speaker 1: all if they were try and relive the day there
Speaker 1: a little. But I don't know if you can, but
Speaker 1: give it a shot. If you want to have somebody
Speaker 1: that had success, there's a proven guy who had success
Speaker 1: at your school. That's actually a really good name. He's Michael,
Speaker 1: like the Pro Football Talk Live co host with Mike
Speaker 1: Florio and of course formally with Mike and Mike. You know,
Speaker 1: why is it that we don't embrace Tom Brady as
Speaker 1: maybe the leading candidate for the MVP. It's almost like
Speaker 1: we're looking like, can we come up with somebody other
Speaker 1: than a forty four year old guy? Is it the
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan effect or the lebron effect, where not that
Speaker 1: Tom's won as many times as that, but he's just
Speaker 1: always there. He's just a content. He's like that that
Speaker 1: bugging you're buzzing in your ear. He's always there. It's
Speaker 1: like you're looking over here and you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's that buzzing in my ear. There's Tom Brady throwing
Speaker 1: four more touchdowns. There's Tom Brady throwing five touchdowns. Because
Speaker 1: we haven't seen it before, Dan, we haven't seen a
Speaker 1: guy this old, who is Benjamin Button, you know, who
Speaker 1: is reverse aging, who is still performing this well, We're
Speaker 1: not used to it. So how much do we buy
Speaker 1: into it that says a forty four year old? What
Speaker 1: is it saying When the forty four year old we're
Speaker 1: saying is the best player in our league, a league
Speaker 1: of twenty and early thirty somethings, it's pretty odd. It's
Speaker 1: it's I guess it's tough to comprehend, but it could
Speaker 1: be a reality because of the way he's playing. Give
Speaker 1: me the NFL team that you just can't figure out
Speaker 1: at this stage of the season, I would say Buffalo,
Speaker 1: and you know they're playing obviously to night against New England.
Speaker 1: You know, you look at the last six games lost
Speaker 1: win loss, win, lost win. You know, you score forty five,
Speaker 1: you score six. You know, you give up thirty one,
Speaker 1: you give up fifteen. And at one point they were
Speaker 1: scoring the most and giving up the least offense and defense.
Speaker 1: They were the complete team. That's the Cardinals. Now I
Speaker 1: can't figure them in a good way. A team I
Speaker 1: can't figure in a bad way. It's with Minnesota, but
Speaker 1: they can't figure themselves out either. But I mean a
Speaker 1: good team. We expected Buffalo to be running at division now, right,
Speaker 1: and now there's New England again, you know, top of
Speaker 1: a division and the number one seed, Old Bill sly,
Speaker 1: old Bill getting it done. But I would say Buffalo,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't figure him out. Maybe let Josh
Speaker 1: Allen go do what he does again, let him go
Speaker 1: run around. You know, that's when they seem they were,
Speaker 1: they were kind of at their best and they just
Speaker 1: kind of let him do his thing. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: And also with the Patriots, like begrudgingly acknowledged the Patriots
Speaker 1: they're good again. Like we don't, we don't want to,
Speaker 1: but you know, you go damn they're eating four. If
Speaker 1: they would happen to win tonight, then people would probably
Speaker 1: say they're the best team in the AFC. Because the
Speaker 1: AFC it is. We went from Okay, you have to
Speaker 1: build a team that can score with the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs to now wondering who the hell is going to
Speaker 1: score all the points right because the Chiefs aren't what
Speaker 1: they were and it's a combination of things from drop
Speaker 1: passes to Patrick to the defense earlier in the year,
Speaker 1: to other teams. Don't stay stagnant just say, oh, they're
Speaker 1: just gonna let the Chiefe kick our ass. Every year
Speaker 1: they try and better as well, so we don't have
Speaker 1: that dominant, high scoring team in the AFC anymore. So
Speaker 1: that perfectly opens a door for Bill Belichick defensive led
Speaker 1: team that keeps teams down scoring and let your rookie quarterback,
Speaker 1: who is already great from the neck up, really kind
Speaker 1: of mature physically as an NFL quarterback. It's kind of
Speaker 1: the perfect timing thing to go with an AFC that
Speaker 1: isn't that isn't any offensive juggernauts where we thought we
Speaker 1: were going to get the offensive juggernauts this year. Help
Speaker 1: me explain the logic of the Ravens going for two
Speaker 1: instead of going for the time. Well, I mean, I
Speaker 1: know what John said as far as his cornerbacks, he
Speaker 1: was running out of him and he doesn't think that
Speaker 1: would have bode well for overtime. It may not bode
Speaker 1: well for the rest of the year going forward. I
Speaker 1: don't so I can understand that. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the analytics said on that one. If it was a
Speaker 1: go for two or not situation. Pittsburgh had certainly played
Speaker 1: a better second half than did a first half, maybe
Speaker 1: to take that into consideration. And by the way, the
Speaker 1: play was there, Dan, the play was there the guy
Speaker 1: who made the play. Obviously Lamar could have had a
Speaker 1: little bit better for throw. Mark Andrews we've seen him
Speaker 1: make one headed catch. Maybe could have made that catch.
Speaker 1: But t J. Watt did a great job not crashing
Speaker 1: down on the fake and then keeping contained because Lamar,
Speaker 1: I'm sure expected to be able to get outside and
Speaker 1: then he's got a two way go him or Andrews
Speaker 1: or you know, and they're gonna get it. But TJ.
Speaker 1: You know, who's just coming off the COVID thing. And
Speaker 1: three and a half of the seven Sacks does a
Speaker 1: nice job, but not only not going down of the fake,
Speaker 1: but staying at the high the outside hip and staying
Speaker 1: outside not let Lamar run outside have to make a
Speaker 1: quicker throw. But other than that, I mean, the play
Speaker 1: was there to be had, so I don't have much
Speaker 1: of a problem with it the execution. Just give Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: and t. J. Watt a little credit there. Well, I
Speaker 1: just wondered with the Ravens, You've got the best field
Speaker 1: goal kicker maybe in history, and that's a weapon if
Speaker 1: you go into overtime, and you know, Pittsburgh's got their
Speaker 1: kicker had a bad afternoon. So that was the only
Speaker 1: thing I thought of, is I can take my chances
Speaker 1: because I always have this weapon and nobody else in
Speaker 1: football has this weapon. But you're right, the play was there.
Speaker 1: It was just you know, it wasn't as firmly executed
Speaker 1: as you would have hoped there. He had eleven career sacks,
Speaker 1: eleven and a half and eleven and a half, Paul,
Speaker 1: did he have eleven or eleven and a him? He's right,
Speaker 1: I should have a rounded up to twelve. Okay, your
Speaker 1: favorite sack in your NFL career was against Well, I
Speaker 1: would say, it's when it was an eighty nine when
Speaker 1: we played the Cowboys. I believe we had eleven or
Speaker 1: twelve sacks as a team that day, and I had
Speaker 1: and I believe I had two and a half sacks.
Speaker 1: So that was the greatest day of pass rushing in
Speaker 1: my nine year career, of which I like to think
Speaker 1: of as consistency. Nine years, eleven and a half sacks.
Speaker 1: People say that's not a lot. I say, it's consistent.
Speaker 1: It's a consistent little over one a year. And also
Speaker 1: I should tell I'll pull the curtain back a little bit.
Speaker 1: Me and my brother Bob, who was a defensive lineman
Speaker 1: as well, we would have a contest every year who
Speaker 1: would have the most sacks, and as soon as one
Speaker 1: of us would get one, it would be a commanding
Speaker 1: lead for how well the pass rushers that we were.
Speaker 1: But that game, I would say, where I had two
Speaker 1: two and a half sacks against Troy Aikman and we
Speaker 1: shut them down, was probably the most fun I had,
Speaker 1: without question. Okay, I'm just do you ever mentioned that
Speaker 1: to Troy Aikman that you owned him? That thing? I
Speaker 1: actually just saw Troy I was calling a Thursday game
Speaker 1: that he was doing and we were on the field.
Speaker 1: We were it was in Cleveland. We were talking to
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield for a bit. Then he turned to me
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, he said, my mom loved
Speaker 1: watching your show, love watching Mike and Mike he said,
Speaker 1: because she said, because you mentioned his name a lot,
Speaker 1: and whenever I would mention my three career interceptions, one
Speaker 1: of them was against Troy, but I'd always mentioned that
Speaker 1: Troy ended up tackling as well. And Troy said, my
Speaker 1: mom loved that you mentioned my name and that I
Speaker 1: tackled you after throwing an interception. So she always really
Speaker 1: liked you and your show. And I'm like, well, tell
Speaker 1: your mom think I appreciate very much. Three interceptions, that's
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. So you picked off Troy Aikman, and who
Speaker 1: what other quarterbacks have that on their resume? So I
Speaker 1: picked off him. I picked off Don magic Kowski off
Speaker 1: a tip pass by Reggie White, and then Reggie the
Speaker 1: late Great Reggie was a dear friend of mine, and
Speaker 1: God rest his soul didn't block my Zikowski and so
Speaker 1: he tackled me. And then I intercepted a ball from
Speaker 1: Jim Everett, and Jim ever tackled me so I had
Speaker 1: three interceptions, which I consider to be pretty impressive, yet
Speaker 1: each time I got tackled by the quarterback, which I
Speaker 1: considered to be not very impressive. Is there anybody better
Speaker 1: defensively defensive line than Reggie White? In my eyes, no,
Speaker 1: because of all he could do. He could line up
Speaker 1: at end, he could line up on the guard, he
Speaker 1: could line up on the center. It didn't matter where
Speaker 1: he lined up. He could play the run, he could
Speaker 1: play the pass. He had maybe the best move there
Speaker 1: was with the rip and the hump move where he
Speaker 1: could take the biggest, longest guys and just leverage them
Speaker 1: out of the way. Just you know, sometimes they say
Speaker 1: when you're a great player, you look strong, but you're
Speaker 1: not really that strong. He was that strong in the
Speaker 1: weight room. He was that great on the field. I
Speaker 1: watched him run a four to six forty it over
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds. I mean, he was. He was an
Speaker 1: unbelievable player. And in my eyes, you know, it's for
Speaker 1: free agency. We're all together for so long in Philly.
Speaker 1: He was a hell of a person too, a better
Speaker 1: person than a player. And uh, and that's that's what
Speaker 1: I certainly missed the most about him. But from a
Speaker 1: football aspect, just because of where he could go up
Speaker 1: and down the line. To me, I didn't see anybody better.
Speaker 1: How would you compare him with Aaron Donald, Well, I
Speaker 1: mean two different I mean Aaron Donald starts the year
Speaker 1: in the two eighties and probably finishes in the seventies
Speaker 1: of the high sixties. Quite honestly, they're two different game players,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean there's the quickness inside with the
Speaker 1: moves that Aaron Donald has, and there's the raw power
Speaker 1: that Reggie would play with as well as quickness at times,
Speaker 1: and again Reggie would move up and down the line.
Speaker 1: I'm not sick. Listen, Whenever you talk like this, people say,
Speaker 1: oh my god, he's criticizing Aaron. Aaron Donald was one
Speaker 1: of the greatest defensive lineman to ever play this game.
Speaker 1: But I, like I said, because Reggie could go anywhere
Speaker 1: on the line, and maybe Aaron could too. If they
Speaker 1: wanted or too or let him, he could probably do that.
Speaker 1: They just do it in different ways. They're two of
Speaker 1: the best to ever do it, they just do it
Speaker 1: in different ways. I was wondering about Micah Parsons that
Speaker 1: you know, you come in as a linebacker, you don't
Speaker 1: get paid as linebackers. You want to be an edge rusher?
Speaker 1: Can he How does that work to be reclassified? Well, listen,
Speaker 1: guys have tried it. Didn't Jimmy Graham try it. I
Speaker 1: mean he tried it to be a wide receiver instead
Speaker 1: of a tight end. You try, and so what you
Speaker 1: do is you try and get your agent to say
Speaker 1: how many times you lined up where right? And certainly
Speaker 1: him as a as a pass rusher, as an edge rusher,
Speaker 1: or as a linebacker, there's going to be a monster
Speaker 1: difference when you get the franchise tagging or what you're
Speaker 1: going to be paid. This dude is unbelievable what he
Speaker 1: is doing. His versus is incredible with what he's doing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll win his classification. Let's just
Speaker 1: say either way, he's on the road to making a
Speaker 1: whole lot of money. But I know you want to
Speaker 1: maximize that, so it will be interesting about how he
Speaker 1: will definitely try to be classified as an outside rusher.
Speaker 1: You believe in the Cowboys, boy, you know you the
Speaker 1: way that I did in the beginning of the year,
Speaker 1: and there are times I do. But I think, like
Speaker 1: a lot of teams this year They leave you scratching
Speaker 1: your head every now and then now again, they've had
Speaker 1: their two wide receivers, you know, between injury and COVID.
Speaker 1: They haven't been stable there, Zeke you wonder Pollard has
Speaker 1: been doing well. It's turned into a two back system
Speaker 1: for sure. That old lion Terron Smith is out as
Speaker 1: different than when he's in. Luckily, Zach Martin has been
Speaker 1: in for the most part. For them, they haven't been
Speaker 1: running the ball as good as as I thought as
Speaker 1: of late. They need to do that better. Let me
Speaker 1: just say this, I believe them nor if they have
Speaker 1: all their pieces. Now you could say that about every team, right,
Speaker 1: but that's what this game is. Dan, you know what,
Speaker 1: You've been around this long enough. It's a war of attrition.
Speaker 1: Once you get to the playoffs, do you have your
Speaker 1: guys that you need to win? That's gonna be pot
Speaker 1: the thing. You know what you're finding out what I
Speaker 1: found out when Oberman left to go to Fox, and
Speaker 1: even to this day, I still have people asking me
Speaker 1: about Keith Oberman. The rest of your life, you'll be
Speaker 1: asked about you and Greeny. Oh yeah, it's like you know,
Speaker 1: Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis like, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: that it's gonna be there forever. And you guys did
Speaker 1: it for two decades. You know, it's almost like you
Speaker 1: have to have that stand pat answer when somebody says, hey,
Speaker 1: how are you and Greeny? Or you guys gonna get
Speaker 1: back together? All these things that I got with Oberman,
Speaker 1: you guys gonna get back on sports setting. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm still getting that. So do you have that stand
Speaker 1: pat answer when somebody says, hey, you and Greenie get
Speaker 1: back together? Oh? Yeah, I just I think the stampad
Speaker 1: answer is basically, it's not going to happen, just kind
Speaker 1: of I don't know what yours was, but I guess
Speaker 1: the best answer would be, this is a crazy business
Speaker 1: where pass cross and recross all the time, so you
Speaker 1: never can say never. I guess that would be the
Speaker 1: most general lanswer I could give. Yeah, Waits says there's
Speaker 1: a chance that said you could probably finish it like
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and say it's never gonna happen. Great to
Speaker 1: talk to you, buddy, My best to your wife and family,
Speaker 1: and I'll see a backstage at a Darius Rucker concert
Speaker 1: sometime soon. Sounds good. Thank you, buddy. That's Mike Goal
Speaker 1: like Big Mike, Pro Football Talk Live Call works with
Speaker 1: Mike Floria occasionally. They're always good to catch up with him.
Speaker 1: I'd probably seen him more at Darius Rucker concerts than
Speaker 1: I did when I was at the Mother's Ship. Uh yes,
Speaker 1: PAULI remember him at the Miami super Bowl, our first
Speaker 1: super Bowl on the road. We had the RV on
Speaker 1: the beach and we had this really cool fun set up,
Speaker 1: our first year Direct TV on the road, and they
Speaker 1: just walked by Mike and Mike go, oh, that's right
Speaker 1: because we had an RV and we had an awning
Speaker 1: that came out. It rained We're knocking rain off. We
Speaker 1: got you know, their show was over, and I think
Speaker 1: everybody was curious what I was doing since I left
Speaker 1: ESPN and we had created something. We're on the beach,
Speaker 1: I mean we had created something there thanks to Direct TV.
Speaker 1: So I saw Greeny and Goliic and I said, go
Speaker 1: get Goali. He's not afraid. I said, well see if
Speaker 1: both will come up, and you know they were so
Speaker 1: Greeny ran Greeni's like, oh, I'm not getting I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get yelled at if I go over there. Golik is like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're fine. And I didn't view them as competition. They
Speaker 1: didn't view me certainly as competition. And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: have Golick come over, and he did, and Big Mike
Speaker 1: sat down, and I always appreciated that. I remember green
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, Greeny Golic and Greeney turned around
Speaker 1: and he ran. Probably it is like he didn't want
Speaker 1: to get a call. He didn't want to here from
Speaker 1: our bosses. All right, let me take a break. I
Speaker 1: gotta get to phone calls. Jeff and Detroit is going
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Speaker 1: Here is the Lion's head coach Dan Campbell after the win. Well,
Speaker 1: of course, I'm happy. We're all happy. I'm happy for
Speaker 1: the coaches, I'm happy for everybody. But it's like, you
Speaker 1: want this so bad for the players, man, because they're
Speaker 1: the ones who put in all the hard work and
Speaker 1: the sweat and the tears. And yeah, we all do,
Speaker 1: and so do the coaches man, And but it's also
Speaker 1: that's what makes us great, you know. And it it
Speaker 1: looks when you lose, it hurts, it's hard, it's hard.
Speaker 1: But it's also why winning is so great in this
Speaker 1: leag because it's not easy to do and when you
Speaker 1: get them, man, it's special. So I'm just man, I'm
Speaker 1: proud of those guys, rightfully. So yeah, still keeping that enthusiasm.
Speaker 1: Jeff and Detroit leads us off on this Monday Jeff
Speaker 1: best and words to the weekend. What up? Though? One
Speaker 1: time a chat roll. Good morning, dere fellas. Listen. First
Speaker 1: of all, I like to give a shout out to
Speaker 1: the Big Ten as well as the NFL at the
Speaker 1: beginning of both games. Unfortunately, here in Michigan, we've had
Speaker 1: to wrap our arms around the Oxford community due to
Speaker 1: the tragic school shooting and all of the families were
Speaker 1: represented in both games. And the one thing that I
Speaker 1: can tell you, Michigan comes together as a communities. They
Speaker 1: definitely do. And what I saw with the Detroit lines yesterday,
Speaker 1: I mean, they just really really pulled it out. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. Then the seat again
Speaker 1: because it's like the girl getting murdered at the end
Speaker 1: of the show, and it's like I can't, I really
Speaker 1: can't get to the point where I will just watch
Speaker 1: them again. Man, I can't watch them go down the draint.
Speaker 1: And they pulled it out. They just pulled it out.
Speaker 1: And then Michigan turns around and does the same thing.
Speaker 1: Michigan turns around and pulls it out. So here in Michigan,
Speaker 1: the sun is shining. We are happy. And I tell
Speaker 1: you I haven't been able to call your show since
Speaker 1: December the sixth and say at the Detroit Lions won
Speaker 1: again and I can finally do that. The horses off
Speaker 1: my back, down my passion bucket, run us over my brother.
Speaker 1: It really and truly does. All right. Well, congratulations, Jeff.
Speaker 1: It's been a long time. Don't know when the next
Speaker 1: one's coming, but they got one. Man, that's all that
Speaker 1: matters right now. Let's settle on the poll question. By
Speaker 1: the way, I got a stat of the day for you, Seeton.
Speaker 1: You want to fire up some music. Two NFL teams
Speaker 1: have outscored their opponents by more than one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty points this season. Only two. They happen to play tonight.
Speaker 1: Buffalo plus one forty four, New England plus one forty six.
Speaker 1: Do you have the worst point differential for a good team? Poon?
Speaker 1: For a good team? Oh? Wow? Okay, the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: Would you consider them a good team? Eight and four? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've outscored their opponents by a total fourteen points on
Speaker 1: the season. Enambulis Colts are seven and six, but they've
Speaker 1: outscored the opponents by eighty eight points. The Ravens are
Speaker 1: eight and four. They've only outscored their opponents by twenty two.
Speaker 1: Let's see hot another one. The Washington football team is
Speaker 1: six and six but has been outscored by fifty one points. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised at that. The Green Bay Packers have
Speaker 1: outscored their opponents by forty one points. The Buccaneers have
Speaker 1: outscored their opponents by one hundred and seven points. The
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks are four and eight. They've been outscored by
Speaker 1: a total of ten points on the season, but they've
Speaker 1: four and eight. Yeah. Watching that game and when rushed
Speaker 1: through the ricochet interception, I thought, oh no, they can't
Speaker 1: drop just three and nine. Now, there's still a little
Speaker 1: bit of hope there, but not much in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: That was one of those where you can't really say
Speaker 1: to Jimmy Garoppolo, go out there and win a game
Speaker 1: and didn't have didn't have a great game. Let's put
Speaker 1: it that way. They had like an option run on
Speaker 1: fourth and one, and I went, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: And Garoppolo kept it and I think the announcers said, well, no,
Speaker 1: maybe it was the surprise that nobody thought it was
Speaker 1: going to happen. I went, okay, this isn't Trey Lance.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, mclovin. Do you get a sense that
Speaker 1: if they don't make the playoffs, then Garoppolo has definitely
Speaker 1: gone well? In fairness to him, this was a bad game.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's played okay. But you know, if
Speaker 1: you're fine with just he's our quarterback and he's doing
Speaker 1: well or he's fine. Then then fine, But you spent
Speaker 1: you spent a lot to go get Trey Lance, and
Speaker 1: there's gonna be open here. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what happens in Pittsburgh or Carolina. Is Miami satisfied? What
Speaker 1: happens with the Texans? I mean, there's probably going to
Speaker 1: be seven or eight of these jobs. Then you look
Speaker 1: at the draft, I don't know if you have a
Speaker 1: franchise maker coming in. Where you go? Man, We're lucky
Speaker 1: to have that high of a draft pick. Here. The
Speaker 1: Notre Dame head coach Marcus Freeman will join us, coming up,
Speaker 1: and Carson Palmer will join us as well. I gotta
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