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All right, welcome to hoops 37 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: to night here at the volume Havy Sunday. Everybody, hope 38 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: all of you guys are having a great weekend as 39 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: promised our third mail bag today. On Friday, we hit 40 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: the Western Conference Finals and all the fallout, some stuff 41 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: big picture with Luca and the MAVs, and then also 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: just looking forward for the Timberwolves. You can find that 43 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: on the feeds. Earlier Saturday, we did an NBA Finals 44 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: mail bag, just some kind of preliminary stuff before we 45 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: get into our real prep starting next week on Monday. Today, 46 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: all the mail bag questions that surrounded anything else, stuff 47 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: about the non basketball stuff, stuff about the rest of 48 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: the league. We're fitting that into today's mail bag. You 49 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: guys are the job. Before we get started, subscribe to 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: the Hoops to Night YouTube channels. You don't miss any 51 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: more of our videos. Follow me on Twitter at underscore 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: Jason lt so you guys don't miss youw announcement sont 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: forget about our podcast feed wherever you get your podcast 54 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: under Hoops Tonight, and then keep dropping mail bag questions 55 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: in those YouTube comments. We can keep hitting them throughout 56 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: the rest of the postseason. All right, let's talk some basketball. So, 57 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: first question, there has been a lot of talk about 58 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: who the best player in the world is. After this series. 59 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: It seems like most people would consider that to be 60 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: Luka or Jokic. What is your criteria for judging what 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: makes one player greater in a vacuum than another? Do 62 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: you compare basic stats like points per game, rebounds per game, 63 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: assist per game, etc. Do you look at any advanced stats, 64 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: team success a combination of them all. I'd love to 65 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: hear about what your measuring stick is for comparing one 66 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: player to another. Thanks for all the fantastic content and 67 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: for making the playoff watching experience greater for me this year. 68 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for supporting the show and for the kind words. 69 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: It means a lot to me. Again, all throughout the 70 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: mail diag, so many of you guys drop so many 71 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: kind words, and I really truly appreciate it and all 72 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: the support, and obviously the performance of the show has 73 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: helped me realize just how much you guys support me, 74 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: and it's something that I greatly appreciate. Best player in 75 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: the world stuff. Everybody has different criteria, and so don't 76 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: confuse me to talking about who I think the best 77 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: player in the world is. As like the end all 78 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: be all, you might have different criteria than me. I 79 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: keep two separate lists. I keep two separate lists for 80 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: my all time players as well. I separate permitter players 81 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: in BIGS because I don't really feel comfortable saying Tim 82 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: Duncan's better than Kobe or vice versa, when the two 83 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: of them played such profoundly different positions in the NBA, 84 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: their jobs just were not the same, right, And that's 85 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: kind of how I feel about this particular type of discussion. 86 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: To me, there's the in a vacuum, who's the best player? If, 87 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: like I had a franchise with a number one pick 88 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: and every single player in the league was a free agent, 89 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: who would be the first guy I'd pick to build 90 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: a team around for that season from the start of 91 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: training camp hopefully through the end of June. Who am 92 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: I picking? Right? That's one debate. Then there's like the 93 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: bragging rights debate that to me, has nothing to do 94 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: with any sort of specific traits of a basketball player. 95 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: It has everything to do with the the importance of winning. 96 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: For instance, we play these games for a reason. We 97 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: play to win. We don't play for Instagram highlights. We 98 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: play to see who's going to get the Larry O'Brien Trophy. 99 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: And to me, that Larry O'Brien trophy is sacred. When 100 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: I grew up as a kid and I'd turn on 101 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals and they'd have that long, you know, 102 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: minute long kind of intro that they'd air with all 103 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: the footage of like Magic Johnson yelling back to back 104 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: and like Bill Russell in the locker room and Red 105 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: Hour back smoking a cigar, and you know, Lebron hunched 106 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: over crying in the later years, Lebron hunched over crying 107 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: after winning in twenty sixteen, like all of the example, 108 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: Anything's possible, Kevin Garnett screaming to the rooftops like that 109 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: real to me is a representation of why we do this. 110 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: We do this for Thearry O'Brien Trophy. It's all that matters. 111 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: There's other stuff that matters, but this is the ultimate 112 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: thing that matters. And so for me, like I believe 113 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: in referencing the best player in the league in these 114 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: two different lists so that we can properly account for 115 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: those two things. For instance, in a vacuum, I think 116 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: Lebron James was the best player in the world from 117 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: about twenty twelve to twenty twenty. If I was picking 118 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: a franch I was picking a player to start a 119 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: franchise with He's the guy I'm picking every single time. 120 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: From twenty twelve to twenty twenty, I thought he was 121 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: the best. I didn't think I thought a couple players 122 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: got close, but I never thought a player actually surpassed him. Right, 123 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: But in terms of bragging rights, it's different, Right, Like, 124 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: I totally understand why some Warriors fans would be like, Hey, 125 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: what about Steph or KD or even Kawhi Leonard in 126 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, Right like that, I understand why some fan 127 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: bases feel like their dude had the bragging rights for 128 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: that season, And that makes sense to me. So that's 129 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: what the purpose of the two lists are. How do 130 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: we account for Lebron obviously being the best player in 131 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: the world in twenty nineteen, because like what happened in 132 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and what happened in twenty twenty twenty eighteen, 133 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: Lebron was by far the best player in the world, 134 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: kicked ass through the entire playoff run, had like eight 135 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: forty point playoff games, had a fifty point playoff game, 136 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: and then ran into the KD Steph Warriors when he 137 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: didn't have another top fifteen player on his team, and 138 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: he lost right, but he was clearly the best player 139 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: in the world twenty nineteen, sprains is growing, the strains 140 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: is growing and misses the playoffs, right because he got hurt. 141 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty, he comes back best player in the league 142 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: start to finish. Should have one MVP team started twenty 143 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: four and three dominated the playoff Run had a crazy efficient, 144 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: high volume scoring, and a playmaking and rebounding Playoff Run 145 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: was also an elite defender that year one finals MVP 146 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: was clearly the best player in the world, right, Like, 147 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: he was the best player for that entire stretch. He 148 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: just got hurt in the middle and was on a 149 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: different team that didn't have enough talent after he went 150 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles before the Anthony Davis trade, Right, But, 151 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: like I understand why Kawhi would have the bragging rights 152 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: that year. But if you were an NBAGM and you 153 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: didn't know that Lebron was gonna get hurt and he 154 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: had just had that twenty eighteen playoff run, you bet 155 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: your ass you're drafting Lebron James over Kawhi Leonard to 156 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: start the twenty nineteen season. That's kind of why I 157 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: keep those two lists separate. Now, the question is if 158 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: the bragging rights one is more focused on team results 159 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: and just and again, just because you win doesn't mean 160 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: you get that in my opinion. In my opinion, it's 161 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: like who played the best basketball that specific year, combination 162 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: of all those things you just mentioned, production in statistics, 163 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: team success, degree of difficulty, all of that, to me 164 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: gets factored in on the bragging right side of things. 165 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: When it comes to the inn of vacuum side, I'm 166 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: actually less concerned about some of the statistical stuff. It's 167 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: more like actually analyzing what that player is good and 168 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: bad at, because so much the statistical output has a 169 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: lot to do with what the team construct is. It's 170 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: no different than Jokic being a better scorer in the 171 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two seasons when he 172 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: didn't have Jamal Murray, but then when Jamal Murray came back, 173 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: his scoring took a little dip as he offloaded some 174 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: of those responsibilities. Like, that doesn't mean Yokic became a 175 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: worst scorer. It's just a difference in the way the 176 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: team was constructed, Right, So like that's kind of the 177 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: way I look at the in a vacuum piece. I'm 178 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: more looking at traits. Now, I wanted to rank the 179 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: traits for the purpose of this question. I wanted to 180 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: rank what I think are the most important traits in 181 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: a vacuum for a basketball player. Number one, no question 182 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: for me, half court shot creation. And the reason behind 183 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: this is very simple. Defensively, you can scheme an elite defense. 184 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: Just look at Luca this year or Jokic last year. 185 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: Both of those guys are doing a good job defensively, 186 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: but they're not elite defensive players. But both of those 187 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: defenses were elite. Why Because they were able to construct 188 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: through coaching and a few pieces of good defensive personnel 189 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: and effort, execution, intention to detail for an entire season, 190 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: those two teams built elite defenses. It's a lot easier 191 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: to do that than the opposite. If you've got it 192 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: is really, really difficult to replicate what Luka doncicch does 193 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: in half court. You can't just scheme like Eric Spolser 194 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: can't turn Tyler Harrow into Lukadancic. Sorry, right. So like 195 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: for me, the ability in the slow down half court 196 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: environment to consistently generate quality shots for yourself and your teammates. 197 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: That to me is the number one trade, I look 198 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: at one of the valuating basketball players in a vacuum, 199 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: specifically versatility. What that means is different types of matchups 200 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: require different forms of offensive attack. So Anthony Edwards, for instance, 201 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: through the first two rounds, looked like one of the 202 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: best offensive players in the world. The Dallas Denver started 203 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: doubling him. Towards the end of that series, he kind 204 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: of crumbled a bit. Then Dallas presents some rim protection 205 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: and perimeter athleticism issues, he completely crumbles, right, So I 206 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: shouldn't say completely crumbles. He was pretty good in the 207 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: last couple of games, but like he was pretty bad 208 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: overall in the series, right. So to me, the versatility 209 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: element says, regardless of which type of opponent I play against, 210 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: can I consistently generate quality shots for myself and my teammates? 211 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: And that to me comes down to like, can you 212 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: attack in different ways? Can you function both as a 213 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: playmaker and as a score if you need to? Can 214 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: you deal with hyper aggressive defensive schemes? Can you attack 215 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: as an individual in different ways, like out of the post, 216 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: out of ISO, out of pick and roll. Can you 217 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: beat small guys and big guys? Can you beat strong 218 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: guys and long guys. Right, those are all the different 219 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: types of versatility elements offensively that I factor in there. 220 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: But half court shot creation is unquestionably the number one 221 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: thing the list. Number two I put size, strength, and athleticism. 222 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you get into these 223 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: playoff environments, it gets super damn physical and being bigger, 224 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: stronger and faster than people matters last year or this year. Looks, 225 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: Look at Luca He's bigger and stronger than the vast 226 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: majority of the perimeter players in the league. Right, Nicole 227 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: Jokicic bigger and stronger than the vast majority of big 228 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: guys in the league. Steph Curry Again, every time you 229 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: look at Steph Curry, he is the exception that proves 230 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: the rule, both in NBA history and in a recent context. 231 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: Anything Steph does, it just doesn't make sense in the 232 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: big picture. So you just kind of have to pick 233 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: Steph up and put him off to the side and 234 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: discuss him separately. Right, We've been consistent about that on 235 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: this show. Giannis bigger, stronger and faster than every forward 236 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: in the league. Right, Lebron James in twenty twenty, bigger, faster, 237 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: stronger than most forwards in the league except for Giannis 238 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: right twenty nineteen, Kawhi Leonard bigger and stronger than most 239 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: forwards in the league. Right eighteen and twenty seventeen, Kevin 240 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: Durant seven foot shooter, He's just taller than everybody. Right. 241 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: And then obviously the Steph piece, which is weird. Twenty 242 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: sixteen Lebron twenty fifteen, Steph again, twenty fourteen Finals MVP 243 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: was Kawhi. That's also a weird team. They're like the 244 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: team version of Steph. You just pulled them out and 245 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: remove them from the equation, right, Lebron. The years before that, 246 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: Dirk was seven feet tall. Kobe Bryant was one of 247 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: the freaky athletic two guards in the league. Right. So like, again, 248 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: you have to have real physical tools unless you're Steph 249 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: Curry to win an NBA history. That's the second piece. 250 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: Third piece I put defensive versatility. There are a lot 251 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: of problems that get presented in playoff series that only 252 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: superstar defensive talents can handle, right, Like, we've seen this 253 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: a lot over the years. But like when you have 254 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: a superstar like Giannis that could show on a Devin 255 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: Booker floater bait him into a pass and then recover 256 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: an erace eight and at the rim. That is a 257 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: play that Giannis and maybe two other guys in the 258 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: world can make, and it won them the finals game. 259 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: Like that is the type of defensive versatility that can 260 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: shine through in a big way. Lebron James is a 261 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: guy like this. Kawhi Leonard is a guy like this. 262 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is a guy like this. Right. To me, 263 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: defensive versatility the ability to impact the game defensively in 264 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: multiple ways. Lebron James in twenty twenty switched on to 265 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray in the tail end of the series and 266 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: shut him down, Like he can't do that anymore. But 267 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: when he was thirty five he could do that, right. 268 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: That was a huge piece of his defensive versatility in 269 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: his way to impact the game. He could be a 270 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: backline guy, he could be an on ball guy, right, 271 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: you know like that? That, to me is an important 272 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: piece of that in a vacuum evaluation of players, But 273 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: it ranks lower than the other two pieces because it's 274 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: easier as a front office to get a Yokich and 275 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: get an Aaron Gordon than it is, in my opinion 276 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: to get a Yannis and then to get a high 277 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: level offensive player to compliment him. And so for me, 278 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: that's why I I ranked that half court shot creation 279 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: piece number one. I think it's just the hardest thing 280 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: to replicate on a team wide basis. Whereas defensive versatility 281 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: can be a roster strength and it can be like elite, 282 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: half court shock creation has only been a roster strength 283 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: with the twenty fourteen Spurs. Like generally speaking, you need 284 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: a superstar offensive player that can do that to address 285 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: that problem. So again, hopefully that answers that question for 286 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: you guys. Those are the rankings of the three things 287 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: I look at in a vacuum in a in bragging 288 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: rights and primary looking at production and team success and 289 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: who just gets to brag for that particular season. Why 290 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: does everyone just cut Giannis out of the best player 291 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: in the world chat? Now, he's still on part with 292 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: these guys. To me, I think he's in that tier, 293 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: but I think he's firmly below Luca and Nicole Jokic 294 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: for the exact same reasons I just explained. I don't 295 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: think he's I think he's a good half court shot creator, 296 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: but he's not in the same stratosphere as a half 297 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: court shock creator as Jokic and Luca some solid analysis 298 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: as usual, but the man which you jumped off Jokich 299 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: as the best player in the world is a bit 300 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: prisoner of the moment. Joker's shooting performance the decline, as 301 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: you put it, against the Wolves was because they were 302 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: built to defeat him and have the favorable matchups to 303 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: wear him down. Conversely, the MAVs have matchup advantages over 304 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: the Wolves, and the truth of that out. You don't 305 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: lose the title a best player in the league because 306 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: your team loses in the playoffs in seven games, while 307 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: you still perform very well. A larger sample size is 308 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: needed otherwise the moniker becomes whoever plays best and wins 309 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: in their title run. If next year Luca dominates and 310 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: is better than Nicola, then I think it's fair to 311 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: then hand him the belt, as Bill Simmons would put it, 312 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: as the best player in the world. But right now 313 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: it's a bit premature. One of your great strengths as 314 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: a basketball analysts is that you generally are not reactionary. 315 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: Don't get caught up in this one. Let's see if 316 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: Luca can win the title and MVP how can the 317 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: best player in the league not have at least one 318 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: MVP and dominate once more in the playoffs before we 319 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: declare him the best player over Nicole Jokic, who has 320 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: had years of sustained excellence. A couple of things. What 321 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: I said right off the top, your criteria for best 322 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: player in the world is probably different. It's clearly different 323 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: than mine. That's okay. It's okay that I have different criteria. So, like, 324 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: I don't care that Luca doesn't have an MVP. Regular 325 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: season MVP to me is like, for me personally, is 326 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: an achievement that I almost just don't care about. Like, 327 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: it's just the problem with regular season MVP is it's 328 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: so much based on media narratives, and like I believe 329 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: Jokic deserves the MVPs he has, I'm not trying to 330 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: undercut the accomplishment. Just regular season MVP. It just doesn't 331 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: matter to me. There's too many examples like Russell Westbrook 332 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: winning it, like James Harden winning it. There's just too 333 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: many Joel Embiid winning it. There's just so many examples 334 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: of a guy that's clearly not the best player in 335 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: the world winning MVP, and that to me, just makes 336 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: it really difficult to tot to tie much success to 337 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: that accomplishment. Even when Yannis won MVP in twenty twenty, 338 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: I didn't think he was better than Lebron. So like 339 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: to me, regular season MVP doesn't factor in. If you 340 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: factor in regular season MVP, more power to you. I 341 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: don't care about that. Joker's shooting performance. The decline, as 342 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: you put it against the Wolves, was because they were 343 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: built to defeat him. That's not true. He shot poorly 344 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: all season. Last year. In the regular season, he was 345 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: one point one to seven points per jump shot. This 346 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: year he was one point zero one. That's a what 347 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: sixteen percent decline, So a substantial decline in Yokic's jump 348 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: shooting from last season to this year. In the regular season, 349 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: last year, in the postseason, for the entire postseason, he 350 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: averaged one point two to one points per jump shot. 351 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: In this postseason he was below zero point nine, so 352 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: massive sample from start of training camp through to what 353 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: he got eliminated in the second round. He wasn't as 354 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: good as a jump shooter. That's just a fact. He 355 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: did decline on that front. He also was not as 356 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: good defensively as he was last year. That is a fact. 357 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: All you have to do is look at the fact 358 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: that they couldn't get stops against Minnesota, a mediocre offense 359 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: when it mattered in big games, had a one sixteen 360 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: defensive rating against Minnesota in those four losses. So like 361 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: he just won as good and I think that has 362 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: to be factored in there as far as like the 363 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: he needs to have sustained success for multiple years in 364 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: the postseason. By that logic, Jokic doesn't deserve it because 365 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: he only did it for one year in the postseason. 366 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: Luca's doing it for his first year in the postseason. 367 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: To me, I'm giving it to Luca because in this 368 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: particular postseason run, Luka Doncic played better basketball and achieved more, 369 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: and so for this season he gets the bragging rights. 370 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: In a vacuum, I still lean Jokic a little bit, 371 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: and we'll see how I feel about that when we 372 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: get into the summer. But for me, in a vacuum, 373 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: if I was GM of the Charlotte Hornets and I 374 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: had the number one pick going into a full NBA 375 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: wide four hundred and fifty player draft, I'm probably taking 376 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: Nikola Jokic first. That to me is separate from the 377 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: bragging rights title, which to me, Luca has at this 378 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: point because he just took the team that beat didn't 379 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: just beat Denver, but shut down their offense, which is 380 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: Jokic's strength. Luca eviscerated them. He averaged twelve additional points 381 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: per one hundred possessions against that Minnesota defense than Jokic did. 382 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: He deserves it for now in terms of bragging rights. 383 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: That hopefully will kind of explain where I stand on 384 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: those things. And you're right, like kicking me kicking a 385 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: player off of the vacuum list, that's gonna take a 386 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: lot more sample size for me. But the bragging rights 387 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: list is very much a year to year thing. I 388 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: had Luka Dancic tenth in my bragging rights list last year. Tenth. 389 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: Do I think lucas the tenth best player in the world. No, 390 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: But he missed the playoffs last year, and Jimmy Butler 391 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: took his team to the finals, Jason Tatum took his 392 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: team in the Eastern Conference finals. Lebron James took his 393 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: team to the Eastern Conference Final. Like, all those guys 394 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: accomplished more last year, so they just were higher in 395 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: their back in the bragging rights list. For me, I 396 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: don't have a question. I just want to say I'm 397 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: a real hoophead. And when I found you a few 398 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: years back, when you were just getting this thing going, 399 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: I was super excited to hear someone talk about the 400 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: game in a way that I had been waiting for 401 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: and to see how far you've come. It's just great 402 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: to see. I tell everyone about you, Bro. Thanks, thanks man, 403 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: keep doing you, Bro. This comment meant a lot to me. 404 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: When I started this show, I had this, you know, 405 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: I had this like belief system in place where, like 406 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about the game the way I 407 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about it. But I was worried that 408 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: it might not perform super well because it's a little 409 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: more niche, right, It's a little bit more in the weeds. 410 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: And I wasn't willing to do the stuff that so 411 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: many other shows out there do in terms of like 412 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: just countless lebron MJ debates and who's under more pressure 413 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: and like all those like classic first takey type of headlines. Right, 414 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that, and I was really 415 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: nervous that I had to have a hard time getting 416 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: the show off the ground because of that and to 417 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: see me start this show and to not compromise on 418 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: any of that stuff, Like does my behind the scenes 419 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: package and make thumbnails and titles that are a little clickbait? Yeah, 420 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: but that's just smart business. I've never built a show 421 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: like that. That's just smart business that they do that. 422 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: But like, to me, the actual show, I've never compromised on. 423 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: I've only talked about the game that I want about 424 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: the I've only talked about the game the way that 425 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: I want to talk about it, and to get to 426 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: see it have success and to see where we've gotten 427 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: to is has just like literally been everything to me 428 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: because that means that my vision for what the show 429 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: should be like was actually capable of being a real 430 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: show that actually had a little bit of a following. 431 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: And so what it means to me is that there's 432 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: a lot of you guys out there that love basketball 433 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: as much as I do, and that is that's that 434 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: that to me is incredible because I love the game 435 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: so much it's literally gone everything that I have came 436 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: from basketball, Like I got my school paid for by basketball. 437 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: A lot of my travel over my life has been 438 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: because of basketball and understanding of the game. Most of 439 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: it comes from playing basketball, right, Like every my love 440 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: of basketball has given me everything I have and so 441 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: like to see that get returned in the form of 442 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: the support of this show is just meant everything to me. 443 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: And to hear comments like that and to know that 444 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: you guys wanted to hear analysis like this, it makes 445 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: me feel vindicated for believing that this is the way 446 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: that the game should be talked about. So just thank 447 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: you all for supporting the show. And like again, I 448 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: just I can't put into words how much I appreciate 449 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: you guys for helping the show get to the point 450 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: where it's at right now. Hey, Jason, love watching your analysis. 451 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask, with all of these rumors the 452 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: Warriors trading Wiggins, do you think it's the right move 453 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: with all these elite guards looking in the west, to 454 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: give up on the only point of attack defender who 455 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: has been able to keep the force of Luca at 456 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: bay Or should they put him in the Jada McDaniels 457 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: lou Dort role, move him to two and add a 458 00:23:54,359 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: big who can shoot to add size. So I've seen 459 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: a lot of Warriors fans talk about potentially trading Andrew 460 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: Wiggins and I disagree in the sense that for two reasons. One, 461 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: I think Andrew Wiggins' ability to defend on the perimeter 462 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: is a profoundly valuable trade his athleticism in general is 463 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: profoundly valuable trade. And lastly, for all of his struggles, 464 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: his trade value is not very high. So it's not 465 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: likely that you can actually get much back for Andrew 466 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: Wiggins that would replace the things that he's pretty elite at. 467 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: So I would look for moves on the margins, and 468 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: I would try to not include Andrew Wiggins as far 469 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: as playing him at the two. I think that you 470 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: need another shot creator, and so if you moved him 471 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: at the two, it to me that would require you 472 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: to have a three out there that can really run offense. 473 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: What you can't do is go back into next season 474 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: where Steph's the only guy on the team that can 475 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 1: create his own shot. That to me would be a disaster. 476 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: How often do you attend live games and are you 477 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: planning to attend the finals? Somel across your vance's postseason. 478 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: Love the work you put into them, so not going 479 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: to the finals, but we are planning on trying to 480 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: do a ten more games next year. I think our 481 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: plan is to at least go to the Ncason Tournament 482 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: next year. My guess is in the long run we'll 483 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: go to more games, like when we talk about like 484 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: five ten years in the future. But so much of 485 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: it just has to do with like the volumes growing 486 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: really fast, and we're still kind of working through all that. 487 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: Like I'm still recording the show in my guest bedroom, 488 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: so like we'll see how that turns out in the 489 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: long run. Right, So, Like again I right now this 490 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: is kind of the format that works. We will go 491 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: to more events, not going to the finals this year, 492 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: but in the long run, we'll see if we end 493 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: up at more of that stuff. What did you think 494 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: of Sam Presci's comments on trading for Gordon Hayward. Do 495 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: you believe more gms? Do you believe more gms should 496 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: take accountability? Like this more great content, keep up the 497 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: great work. So the comment from Sam Presci basically just 498 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: said he missed on that Gordon Hayward trade. One of 499 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: the things that I appreciated about it, there's this I 500 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: didn't even really realize this until like started in this business. 501 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: There's this belief. I've seen it from fans and it's 502 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: like this, there's this expectation that basketball is just easy 503 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: to figure out and that the solution is just obviously 504 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: right in front of you, and that you should just 505 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, if you make a mistake, it's a sign 506 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: that you're incompetent. I could not disagree more Like sports 507 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: has such a variability element to it. Right as a 508 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: Lakers fan, I experience this personally all year long. Ruey 509 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: hatch Murrow is better than Torrian Prince, and I advocated 510 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: all year long to play Ruey more than Torrian Prince. 511 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: And it was the right decision all year long until 512 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: the Denver series when Rui was terrible and Torrian was good. Right, Like, 513 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: is that just the weirdness of basketball? Or am I incompetent? 514 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, that's where it gets 515 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: really tricky, right, Like, Sam pressI is regarded as one 516 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: of the best gms in the league, and he can 517 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: make a mistake. I think he was just looking at 518 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: a player that he could potentially slot in for Josh 519 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: Giddy in those lineups as kind of like a connective 520 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: piece that would just be a higher level offensive player, 521 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: and it turned out that it was better for him 522 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: to go with Isaiah Joe or Aaron Wiggins or even 523 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: maybe even some big looks with Jay will Right, it 524 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: just turned out it wasn't the right move, right, But 525 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: you got to take You gotta take chances, you got 526 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: to take shots, you got to take risks. And I 527 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: always will advocate for people doing that sort of thing, 528 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: and inherently there are mistakes that can be made in 529 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: those processes. Hey, Jason, what have we learned this playoffs? 530 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: About which types of defensive players are the most valuable 531 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: perimeter defenders, wings or rim protector centers. How does that 532 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: influence team building? Thanks so much for all that you do. Again, 533 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: for me, it's the versatility element. It's the guys like 534 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon that can guard on the back line, defensive 535 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: rebound and guard on the perimeter. Jason Tatum can do 536 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: that too, right. PJ. Washington has showed some of that. 537 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: It is the versatile defensive players. Derek Lively is a 538 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: great example. It is the versatile defensive players that can 539 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: do both that bring the most value. A big, strong 540 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: athlete that you can hang around inside and defend on 541 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: the perimeter is by far the most valuable type of 542 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: defender that you can have. Do you think that the 543 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: Bucks are still top tier contenders. I feel their entire 544 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: defensive system revolved around what Brook Lopez could do and drop, 545 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: which was only enabled by elite screen navigation by Drew. 546 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: Without that, Lopez's defensive flaws are magnified, and I don't 547 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: think they have the assets to fix the issue. I 548 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: know the offense has been poor, but all the pieces 549 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: are there. Giannis just needs to be more familiar without 550 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: a role with Dame. Agree with everything you said. I 551 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: agree that the point of attack defense was an issue 552 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: in terms of complimenting Lopez and drop coverage one hundred percent. 553 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: Agree about Giannis and Dame just kind of needing more 554 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: reps figuring out how to play together. I would use 555 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: Dallas as an example of optimism if I was a 556 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: Milwaukee fan. Dallas missed the playoffs last year. But they 557 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: have two superstars or two superstar and a star that 558 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: both compliment each other really well, and they made some 559 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: tweaks to the roster. Now they're in the finals. That's 560 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: what you got to look at. Look at if you're Milwaukee, 561 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: you have Giannis and Tenna Kombo, the third best player 562 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: in the world in a vacuum. In my opinion, and 563 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: you have Damian Lillard, a guy is in that like 564 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,239 Speaker 1: top twelve, top thirteen, right, so you are capable of 565 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: making a similar pivot. And all it is is you 566 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: got to hit on a veteran minimum signing or two. 567 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: You got to hit on some sort of other move 568 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: in the summer, whether it's a sign and trade or 569 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: it's a mid level exception deal, and you got to 570 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: hit on a trade or two between the offseason and 571 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: on the deadline. If you hit on those deals, you 572 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: have the top tier talent to build an elite team 573 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: around them. You just have to make the appropriate tweaks. 574 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: To me, I would go in on athleticism. I think 575 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: this is a team that needs to be very, very 576 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: fast and long and athletic. I think that, especially since 577 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: brook Lopez like that was part of the issue last year. 578 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: We're just too slow everywhere. And I would pivot in 579 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: the direction towards length and athleticism, especially considering to get 580 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: out of the conference, You're gonna have to deal with 581 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: the Knicks team, which is gonna come at you with 582 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: overwhelming layers of physicality and size and length, and Boston's 583 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: gonna come at you with a ton of speed and 584 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: spread you out on the perimeter to survive that conference. 585 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: I think they need to get faster on the perimeter. 586 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: Do you believe that it would be better to include 587 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt into the trade package if you're getting a role 588 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: player like me, or if you're getting a player like 589 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: Mikhale Bridges rather than trading him for another guard like Dejonte. 590 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: I feel like he's the third most, third or fourth 591 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: most valuable player on the team. One hundred percent agree 592 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: in the sense that he feels a very specific need. 593 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 1: Jared Vanderbilt is the only elite perimeter defender that the 594 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Lakers have under roster control, So if you're 595 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: going to include him in a trade, you damn well 596 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: better get back a real perimeter defender. I personally would 597 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: like to have at least two. If you look through 598 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: the let's just look at the conference finalists. Minnesota had 599 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: two of them, right, They had Jada McDaniels Anthony Edwards 600 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: just in the starting lineup. Right. If you look at 601 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks, they had two of them, Derek Jones 602 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: Junior PJ. Washington. I even argue that Kyrie can guard 603 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: on the perimeter, right, you can say the same thing 604 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: about Mike Conley. For the record, Boston has four of 605 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: them in the starting lineup Indiana. Even if you look 606 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: at Andrew Nemhard and AARONI. Smith, those are two very 607 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: two very good perimeter defensive players. Siakam is a guy 608 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: who can guard on the perimeter as well, So like 609 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: you got to have multiple guys that can guard on 610 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: the perimeter. So like I would, I would if I 611 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: was the Lakers, I would not include Jared Vanderbilt unless 612 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: it was a team demanding including Jared Vanderbilt and you 613 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: were getting back a high level perimeter defender that I 614 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: prefer to keep him, and I'd prefer to use trade 615 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: chips like Ruya Chimura gave Vincent other mid level contracts 616 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: that do not involve including Vanderbilt, and then I but 617 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: I like the idea of going after Michel Bridges, a 618 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: Jeremy Grant, a de Jontey Murray, that sort of thing. 619 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: But I'd try to keep Vanderbilt if you can do 620 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: you eat before and or after you play a game 621 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: of basketball. So what do you go for from James? 622 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: I prefer to eat two to three hours before I 623 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: had a late night run that I played on Wednesday, 624 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: a private run here in Tucson, and I went to 625 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: dinner with my wife beforehand, and we had dinner at 626 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: like six point thirty and the run started at like eight, 627 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: and I didn't eat my food until like seven, and 628 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: it felt like I was playing with a cannonball in 629 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 1: my stomach and it was literally the worst. So like, 630 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: preferably a long time before, preferably lighter. I prefer to 631 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: have stuff like like usually just like some rice and 632 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: chicken like that. Chipotle is like the best pregame meal 633 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: of all time because it's just rice and chicken, right. 634 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: I just don't get beans in it for me personally, 635 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: But like again, like that, it's really just something light 636 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: two three hours before. I'm a big believer in loading 637 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: up the day before. I do a lot of like 638 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: heavy protein carbloating in the day before to try to 639 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: prepare for playing the next day. Hey, I'm wondering about 640 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: your perspective on the Star Wars franchise. I like some 641 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: of the shows that have come out, but I also 642 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: feel like some are getting away from what Star Wars 643 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: was originally about. I think they should release less content 644 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: and focus more on quality rather than spinning out a 645 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: new show every few months. What's your take on where 646 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: they should go. I don't think that there's a I 647 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: don't think that they're inundating us with content. It's not 648 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: like there's a ton of it. I actually think that, 649 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to dedicated teams, like, as long 650 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: as there's oversight, dedicated teams can do a quality job. 651 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: It's not like they're cutting corners there. To me, it's 652 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: more just focusing on the right kind of storytelling. To me, 653 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: Star Wars what makes it great is there's a very 654 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: basic good versus evil and then there's deep lore building. 655 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: It's the same thing that makes all those shows great, right, 656 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: Like what is Game of Throne? What makes Game of 657 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: Thrones great? You know who the villains are. You know 658 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: you're rooting against Sercy the whole time. You know you're 659 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 1: rooting against you know, uh Ramsey Snow, you know you're 660 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: rooting against the Night King, right Like, you have your 661 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: clear antagonists and there's an obvious like good versus evil 662 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: type of thing going on, and then there's deep lore building. 663 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: Everything is connected. And Disney has just gotten really sloppy 664 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: with the lore, like shitting all over the Skywalker Skywalker 665 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: storyline by making it about Palpatine at the end, Like 666 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: they literally destroyed the entire Skywalker storyline by reincarnating or 667 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: saving Palpatine and making it about Ray and Palpatine. Right 668 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: like that that was stupid. That was that was shitting 669 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: all over the lore. Right, they stupid things like for 670 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: cool special effects, they'll have the like the Millennium Falcon, 671 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: hyperspace jumping in between buildings like in Revenge of the 672 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: Sitty or in Rise of Skywalker when literally in a 673 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: New Hope. In the very first Star Wars movie in 674 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, there's a scene where Han Solo's talking 675 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: to Luke and Luke goes, why don't you just jump 676 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 1: the light speed? And Hank goes, if I don't calculate first, 677 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: there will be bits of us scattered all over the galaxy, 678 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: like because if you travel at the speed of light 679 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: and you run into something, something bad would happen. So like, 680 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: why is it that that was established in nineteen seventy seven, 681 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: And then it's like, oh, but it'd be cool for 682 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: CGI if the Millennium Falcon just appeared right in between 683 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: some buildings, flying around like that's the kind of stuff 684 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: that Disney's dropped the ball on. If they get back 685 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: into the deep story building and into the lore and 686 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: into the good versus evil, I think it could work. Which, 687 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: by the way I saw. I've seen some people dislike Ahsoka. 688 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: I enjoyed Ahsoka. It's a slow start. Season one was slow, 689 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: but it's no different than Game of Throne Season one 690 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: was really slow, right, give that story some time. Theron's 691 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: a really interesting character. They're gonna keep building him out. 692 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: There's all that interesting stuff going on with Balen Skull 693 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: and Ahsoka and all them in that other galaxy. Like Ahsoka, 694 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: Season two I think is gonna be more fast paced 695 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 1: and a little bit more interesting. Right. This Acolyte series 696 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 1: is something I'm super super excited for. It dives back 697 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: into the good versus evil thing I saw. I had 698 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: this theory that I put out on my other podcasts. 699 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: I have another podcast. It's called The Two Sun's Podcast. 700 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: You can see the link for it, or not the link, 701 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: but the logo for it right there. I do it 702 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: with my buddy Luke here in Tucson. We cover all 703 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: that stuff, TV series, movies, all that kind of thing. 704 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: Star Wars is a major like Star Wars is my 705 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: favorite bit of nonfiction, so that's what we spend a 706 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: good amount of our time on. But like, we're gonna 707 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: be covering every single episode of The Acolyte starting next week. 708 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna cover every single episode of House of the Dragon. 709 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: We're recording tomorrow an episode that's covering the end of 710 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: Bad Batch as well as we're doing We're gonna do it. 711 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: There's a book that we both just read called Revin, 712 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: so we're gonna do a like kind of a summary 713 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: action to the Revin book. That's obviously legends, but it's 714 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: another Star Wars, a bit of Star Wars content. So, like, 715 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: make sure you check out the Two Sons podcast hop 716 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: over there. If you guys would subscribe and support that show, 717 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: I'd really appreciate that. But I was talking about The 718 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: Acolyte with my buddy Luke, and in that show, I 719 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: was hoping for them to get into some of the 720 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: history of the Sith, which is by far my most 721 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: interesting element of the Star Wars universe. I'm really fascinated 722 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: by Palpatine's a grand plan to overthrow the Republic, right. 723 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: I find it super fascinating. It dates all the way 724 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: back to Darth Baine destroying the Sith, going into hiding 725 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: and trying to take over the galaxy with subterfuge rather 726 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: than through force of arms. Right, that's if you've ever 727 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: read the Darth Baine books, you know what I'm talking about. 728 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: But the Acolyte, I think is going to target that concept. 729 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: And I had a theory about that, and then I 730 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: saw an interview yesterday that the Star Wars Instagram feed 731 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: released where Dave Filoni was interviewing the director and he's like, so, 732 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: tell me about the Accolte, and she's like, I've always 733 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: been fascinated by the Sith and the idea of an 734 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: apprentice who crazy their master's power and needs to go 735 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: find a new apprentice so that they can do that. 736 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: And I was like, yes, Like this is exactly what 737 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: I want from a Star Wars show. So I'm very 738 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: very excited for the Acolyte. I most importantly now that 739 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: Dave Filoni is their creative director. Dave Filoni is someone 740 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: that I think has the appropriate amount of respect for 741 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: what makes Star Wars great, and so I think that 742 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: we can kind of take the twenty fifteen stretch to 743 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: now in all of the stuff that they botched with 744 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: the sequel trilogy and some of the weird stuff they've done. 745 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: I think we can kind of just put that to 746 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: the side. Now Dave Filoni has real authority to fix stuff. 747 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: Let's see if Dave Filoni can can write the ship here. 748 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 1: You said early in the season you would not change 749 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: the Nuggets starting five. After losing to the Wolves, do 750 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: you still believe it should be those five, and what 751 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: changes would you make overall to the team come back 752 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: better next season. I would try to run it back. 753 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: They were up twenty in Game seven, you win that game. 754 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: I think they beat Dallas and I think they're in 755 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,959 Speaker 1: the finals, and I think they would have beat Boston. 756 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: Don't overthink it. You got a bad matchup and you 757 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: still had him on the ropes. You just blew it. 758 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: And Jamal Murray didn't play well. He was also injured, 759 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: and Yokic had a bad shooting season and wasn't as 760 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: good defensively. I think both of those guys are gonna 761 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: come back way better next year. I think they're gonna 762 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: come back as the hungry team. So like I wouldn't 763 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: tweak anything that said, there's some of the realities of 764 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 1: the roster situation, It's very possible that Contavious called what Pope, 765 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: ends up being poached by another team. We'll see if 766 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: they do. Then obviously what you're sliding like a Christian 767 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: Brown into that spot. But I'll be curious to see 768 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: if they are able to kind of replace him with 769 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: a more of like a league average type of replacement player. 770 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: That said, in terms of who I should who I 771 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: think they should be looking to add, I think the 772 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: main piece that they need is they need another offensive 773 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: player that can compromise the defense through dribble penetration. One 774 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: of the issues for Denver was they initiate through two 775 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 1: man game and through Jokic's ability to impose himself physic 776 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: in the post Jaden McDaniels and Anthony Edwards erased Jamal 777 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: Murray from that series for the most part, and Nikole 778 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: Jokic was just getting overwhelmed by size on the inside. 779 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: Another way to compromise the defense is through dribble penetration. 780 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: Denver just didn't have a guy who can do that. 781 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: Last year they had Bruce Brown. They didn't have that 782 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: this year. So, like I would be looking for an 783 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: athletic guard that can beat somebody off the dribble, because 784 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: if you can beat somebody off the dribble, that's just 785 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 1: another way for them to have some more resilience on offense. 786 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: What's up with the sunglasses new style? So I've had 787 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: sunglasses on for a couple of these episodes, just holding 788 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: my hair back. To make a long story short, I've 789 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: never had hair this long, and I'm trying to figure 790 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: out how to do it. It's my hair super curly 791 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: thanks to my mom, and I have literally no idea 792 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: what to do with it. So I'm learning the sunglasses. 793 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,919 Speaker 1: They just hold it back for right now. I don't 794 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 1: know if I'll end up. I'm not going to get 795 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 1: into the specifics, but I'll try a few more things. 796 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: But something that's like something about me. I am very 797 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: much a practically minded person. Practical like, I'm obsessed with practicality. 798 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: I want things to be convenient. I like things to 799 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: be easy, and my hair is irritating the shit out 800 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: of me. I've been growing it out for like nine months, though, 801 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: so I'm not about to cut it right away. I'm 802 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: gonna try to see if I can make it work. 803 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: But like if it's a few months from now and 804 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm still struggling, like I'm gonna cut it just because, 805 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 1: like I hate dealing with inconvenient shit like constantly having 806 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: to do stuff with my hair. But yeah, the sunglasses, 807 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm just putting them on my head to hold my 808 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 1: hair back. I'm aware that it's tacky. I'm trying to 809 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 1: figure it out. Just bear with me as I try 810 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: to work through this new phase of hair problems. You 811 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: touched on a couple of videos ago that every series 812 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: should be looked at in a vacuum. How do you 813 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: think the Lakers would have fared if they would have 814 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: been the eighth seed instead of the seventh. Would they 815 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: have dethroned okay See Dallas in Minnesota? I think they 816 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: would have beat I think they would have beat okay See. 817 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: I think that they presented similar challenges to Oklahoma City 818 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: that Dallas did, right. I think that specifically, one of 819 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: the things that the Lakers could have done to Okase's 820 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: front line that even Dallas couldn't do is Anthony Davis 821 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: can just bully his way around the basket against that 822 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,919 Speaker 1: front line, and I think that that would have caused 823 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: a lot of problems. I think the Lakers would have 824 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: beat Okay. See. By the way, I was consistent about 825 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: that all season. I thought the Lakers were the fifth 826 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: best team going into the postseason run, and I thought 827 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: that they should have. I thought that they would have 828 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: beat Oklahoma City. Dallas is tough. Dallas is a matchup 829 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: that the Lakers have struggled with pretty consistently over the 830 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: last two years. I would have picked the Lakers over 831 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: Dallas if Jared Vanderbilt was healthy, but he was not. 832 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: He wasn't healthy. So with Jared, because Jared Vanderbilt was 833 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: the one guy the Lakers had that could actually bother 834 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 1: Luca kind of fits into that big, strong forward type 835 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: that you need, like an Aaron Gordon, like a Jason 836 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: Tatum type of player. But Jared Vanderbilt was out, so 837 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: I think the Lakers would have just lost to Dallas. Now, 838 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: in a to see world where Jared Vanderbilt was healthy, 839 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: I think they would have beat OKAC. It would have 840 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: been roughly a coin flip to beat Dallas. I probably 841 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: would have picked the Lakers, but it would have been close. 842 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: And then Minnesota, I think the Lakers would have beat 843 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: Minnesota because I think Minnesota would have struggled against the 844 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: Laker defense for the exact same reasons that they struggled 845 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: against the Dallas defense. But the Dallas matchup is just 846 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: really tough. The Lakers have struggled with Luca pretty consistently, 847 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: and because Vanderbilt was injured, I think even if they 848 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: were the eight c they would have lost to Dallas. 849 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: A lot of Team USA players didn't go on a 850 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: deep run in the playoffs, for example Lebron, Steph kd, 851 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, Embiid. Will that rest help Team USA? Absolutely, 852 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: not just the rest, but also the competitive motivation. Not 853 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: being able to compete for a championship will make them 854 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: want to compete for this Olympic trophy. I have a 855 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: feeling that the Team USA is going to go on 856 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 1: a crazy run. I think that they're going to dominate, 857 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: and I think they're going to win the gold. I 858 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: think that this is going to be an opportunity for 859 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: the American basketball players to prove that even though the 860 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: world is catching up, that as a country individually, they 861 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: are still head and shoulders above the rest of the 862 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 1: teams individually. Now, if you I think if we combined 863 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 1: all the players of the world into a single world 864 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,479 Speaker 1: team against USA, that's where It gets tricky, right because 865 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: now we're talking about Luca Jokic gianness like that. That 866 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: could get really tough, really fast, shake shake Gilders. Alexander's 867 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: on that team, right, But like and that would get complicated. 868 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: But in terms of individual countries, no country in the 869 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: world can hold a candle to a Team USA, and 870 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: I think they're going to demonstrate that this year. Should 871 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards start over Jason Tatum and Team USA, No, 872 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: I think Jason Tatum should play the two. I would 873 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: go Steph Tatum, kd Lebron, Anthony Davis. That would be 874 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 1: the lineup that I'd use. And then in specific matchups 875 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 1: against really big front lines, guys that like Jokic in Serbia, 876 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: that's where I would play Embiid because I think matches 877 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: up better with Jokic. But I think alongside other stars, 878 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: AD is a better player, and I think Tatum is 879 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: better than Anthony Edwards in a vacuum, but especially within 880 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: the context of playing alongside the other stars, I think 881 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: Tatum would be their route to go. But I mean, 882 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: Steph Tatum, Katie Lebron, Ad, they should beat the shit 883 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: out of everybody. That's that's a legendary team. I'm very 884 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: lucky the Volume sending me out on Wednesday in July, 885 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: right before the right before the summer league, to see 886 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: a scrimmage for Team USA versus the Canadian national team. 887 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: Very very excited for that. I think that should be 888 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: a fun game, especially if Jamal Murray plays, because it'll 889 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: be Shay, Jamal Murray, Dylan Brooks like that. That should 890 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,919 Speaker 1: be a really fun game to watch. All right, guys, 891 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: that is all I have for today, and we're gonna 892 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: be back on Monday morning covering some the first side 893 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: of the ball for the NBA Finals. We're recovering Boston 894 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: on offense, film and everything. Then we'll get into Dallas 895 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: on offense on Tuesday, and then we'll get into some 896 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: interview stuff on Wednesday. As always, I sincerely appreciate you 897 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: guys for rocking with me and supporting the show. I'll 898 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:28,720 Speaker 1: see you on Monday. The Volume