Speaker 1: You asked, you demanded, and we sometimes.
Speaker 2: Listen sometimes sometimes Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey and you
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Speaker 2: Okay, so now for the first time, you can see
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you see it.
Speaker 2: We've got it up right now on our YouTube page.
Speaker 2: It is one from last week. Yes, it took us
Speaker 2: a little while to edit the video to go with
Speaker 2: the audio, and you know, we're working on it.
Speaker 1: It's a process.
Speaker 2: It's a process with us through the process. So if
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Speaker 2: today on our YouTube page.
Speaker 1: Just go to again Brook and Jeffrey. So there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be curious to see what people think in
Speaker 2: the comments of it.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll have this one two weeks from now. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, we'll get there. You'll have to keep checking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll get there.
Speaker 2: And you know, if your comments are only about how
Speaker 2: disappointed in what we look like you yeah you are,
Speaker 2: then that's okay too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we expect it exactly.
Speaker 2: But for now, let's get to a brand new awkward
Speaker 2: Tuesday phone call. Uh, it's gonna start here.
Speaker 1: We go.
Speaker 3: Some things take every ounce of willpower not to do Oh, yes,
Speaker 3: don't make a joke while you're in the middle of
Speaker 3: an adult circumcision.
Speaker 4: Don't make him laugh. Don't do it.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. You don't want anyone's shaken.
Speaker 4: Did it again.
Speaker 3: Too, We'll try again next Wednesday. But maybe even harder
Speaker 3: than that is finding the willpower to not text your
Speaker 3: X back after a messy breakup.
Speaker 4: Don't do it well.
Speaker 3: One of our listeners was able to hold off for
Speaker 3: a long long time, but today he doesn't want to
Speaker 3: text her. He wants to call her, and you're gonna
Speaker 3: find out why. What changed his mind in your brand
Speaker 3: new awkward Tuesday phone call?
Speaker 1: Next, It's awkward, It's Tuesday.
Speaker 5: It's awkward Tuesday phone call.
Speaker 4: You know what phrase you never hear?
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 3: Jeff I just had a great breakup with my girlfriend.
Speaker 4: It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 3: No, Usually those are pretty messy, pretty complicated, little sexy
Speaker 3: you maybe one last hurrah, but for the most part
Speaker 3: not great. Yeah, but one of our listeners, Cash says
Speaker 3: he achieved it, maybe not right when it first happened,
Speaker 3: but shortly afterwards with the help of his friends.
Speaker 4: Oh and somehow that has led to a whole nother
Speaker 4: issue and he needs our help. We're gonna find out
Speaker 4: about it right now.
Speaker 1: Why are we going to mess with a good thing?
Speaker 1: Just leave it alone.
Speaker 3: It ended well, Apparently it's not so well anymore.
Speaker 4: Cash, Welcome to the show man.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Oh you're getting messy for you, bro.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you could say that we are.
Speaker 2: We blaming the friends at this point?
Speaker 1: Or where are we at?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: What happened with you in your ex girlfriend?
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was dating a girl for a long time, and.
Speaker 1: Define long time for us.
Speaker 5: Sorry, you know, over the course of like a year
Speaker 5: or two they broke up.
Speaker 1: Or it's one of those we were on that we're off.
Speaker 4: Off you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like that type of thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, So that was it was on again, off again
Speaker 3: for you said a year or two.
Speaker 5: Yeah, mostly multiple years, I think, on and off again,
Speaker 5: you know. And about four months ago, she got really
Speaker 5: mad one night and just dumped me.
Speaker 4: That's the spicy side of her. But you like that.
Speaker 2: It sounds like that's a rollercoaster. You definitely knew you
Speaker 2: were on She.
Speaker 5: Got spicy for sure. A couple of weeks later, she
Speaker 5: texted me again.
Speaker 6: I think she's sorry. Coming up and talk back.
Speaker 7: To the sweet side didn't work out.
Speaker 1: So did you guys get back together?
Speaker 5: Well, my friends were like, dude, you can't fall back
Speaker 5: into it. You gotta just ignore her cold turkey, don't
Speaker 5: text back, you know. And it was tough, but I didn't.
Speaker 5: I stayed strong and well you.
Speaker 1: Just left her on red.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: I mean it's honestly probably the healthiest thing. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: those up and down relationships are we've all been in
Speaker 2: them before about.
Speaker 3: And if anything, it's only going to make her think
Speaker 3: that you're even sexier watch you more.
Speaker 5: Right. But over the next few months, you know, she
Speaker 5: texted me every so often, like saying nice things, trying
Speaker 5: to lure me in, and my friends would kind of
Speaker 5: remind me, like, don't respond, don't do it. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 5: sometimes they take my phone for the night just to
Speaker 5: make sure I didn't text her back.
Speaker 4: I started drinking a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to change your name and your phone
Speaker 1: to do not reply.
Speaker 3: You're right, so clearly the temptation was still there for
Speaker 3: you and you needed some help with like an intervention
Speaker 3: to make sure it was stopped.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was hard not to fall back in the
Speaker 5: same kind of toxic pattern. And about a month ago,
Speaker 5: she texted me telling me that her grandmother just died.
Speaker 5: And I had met her grandmother a few times. I
Speaker 5: knew she wasn't in great health. But my friends were saying,
Speaker 5: you know, don't fall for it.
Speaker 6: She's baiting you. Don't take back.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's hard man. Yeah, I could or could
Speaker 1: not be Yeah, totally Brook.
Speaker 3: How would you feel if you texted one of your
Speaker 3: exes that knew your grandma and they never responded back.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One time an ex texted me after a family thing,
Speaker 2: and it felt so good to write who's this, I
Speaker 2: don't have your number, saying.
Speaker 1: I really didn't have his number, saying you were I
Speaker 1: didn't really know who it was. And then when he
Speaker 1: went back, I went, oh, well that was still doesn't
Speaker 1: ring up.
Speaker 3: So after that message about her grandma, how many more
Speaker 3: did she send you?
Speaker 5: Yeah, she didn't send me anymore after that. That was
Speaker 5: the last time I heard from her.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think that means that she may really have needed
Speaker 2: somebody in that moment.
Speaker 1: Are you sure she actually passed away that?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: Did you stop her socials?
Speaker 2: Like you checked the newspaper obituary.
Speaker 5: I didn't, but I mean, I'm pretty sure it happened,
Speaker 5: Like I don't think she would lie about it, And
Speaker 5: like I said, she wasn't like really bad help.
Speaker 2: So are you feeling like regret that you didn't support
Speaker 2: her when.
Speaker 4: She needed it?
Speaker 6: Absolutely?
Speaker 5: I felt bad in the moment, like it was really hard,
Speaker 5: But even like three or four weeks later, I feel
Speaker 5: even worse because that I was with her for two years.
Speaker 5: You know, we were really close.
Speaker 2: Yes, So what are you needing our help with in
Speaker 2: that situation?
Speaker 5: Well, I feel like now I've had enough time where
Speaker 5: I'm ready to talk to her and maybe we can
Speaker 5: be friends.
Speaker 4: That's really good.
Speaker 3: Right after you cold shouldered her about her grandma passing,
Speaker 3: now you're in a good spot to be friends.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, like you know, after a certain amount
Speaker 5: of time, it becomes healthier to kind of talk again.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's just awkward.
Speaker 5: It's just like finding the way to break the ice
Speaker 5: is the problem, right.
Speaker 2: Because you want to go back and still have those
Speaker 2: boundaries that you're not going to get back together, but
Speaker 2: you also want to be there for her as someone
Speaker 2: who cares for her.
Speaker 5: I mean kind of you know, I do really, I
Speaker 5: do really want to bear friend and it's been a
Speaker 5: while and you know I do miss her.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we may be getting back on the ride.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think that's our challenge.
Speaker 3: Just how do we have this conversation without getting him
Speaker 3: back onto the ride?
Speaker 1: Bro do sound like he's totally off every sure he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to back on the ride?
Speaker 3: He's saying he doesn't kind of, Well, the brain is
Speaker 3: saying no, who knows what his heart is saying.
Speaker 4: Kiss his friends, right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Well, let's see what advice we can come up with
Speaker 3: for you when we come back. Give you our advice
Speaker 3: and let you call your ex girlfriend to say sorry
Speaker 3: I didn't respond when your grandma passed away.
Speaker 4: But we cool now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but when you say it, it's going to be flawless.
Speaker 3: Absolutely During your awkward Tuesday phone call right after this,
Speaker 3: it's awkward.
Speaker 4: It's Tuesday.
Speaker 6: It's awkward Tuesday phone call.
Speaker 3: Let me try to quickly recap this so we can
Speaker 3: get to your awkward Tuesday phone call.
Speaker 4: It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 3: But a listener of ours named Cash reached out to us,
Speaker 3: and I don't think we've ever done a call quite
Speaker 3: like this before, because he dated a young woman named
Speaker 3: Amber for a few years on and off. She dumped him,
Speaker 3: and his buddy suggested that he go cold turkey. Yeah,
Speaker 3: doesn't respond to her texts, no calling her at night,
Speaker 3: zero contact.
Speaker 2: They'd been in that up and down cycle of breaking
Speaker 2: up getting back together.
Speaker 1: For a long time.
Speaker 3: Up and guess what, she reached out to him more
Speaker 3: than once. Yeah, and he stayed strong until one night
Speaker 3: when she sent a text saying, Hey, my grandma just passed.
Speaker 1: Away, a grandma that he knew too.
Speaker 4: And what did Cash do? Nothing like he was supposed to.
Speaker 4: And that was a.
Speaker 3: Month ago, and now he's looking back pretty regretful about
Speaker 3: not being there for her in her time of need
Speaker 3: and cash it definitely sounds like you do miss her
Speaker 3: and you want to mend this friendship while still leaving
Speaker 3: the door open to the possibility of maybe more.
Speaker 4: Is that right?
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess never say never, which is exactly
Speaker 2: what your friends don't want you to say.
Speaker 3: But okay, but justin Bieber wants you to say that,
Speaker 3: So that's good, Brook. How do you recommend he accomplished
Speaker 3: that through this phone call?
Speaker 1: What do you think think I have.
Speaker 2: I think you need to realize, Cash, is that you
Speaker 2: left her.
Speaker 1: On read after she texted you when she needed you.
Speaker 4: Like you were supposed to good so we knew.
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, this call is going to come off
Speaker 2: like you're the one calling for a booty call. Oh
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like you only call her
Speaker 2: when you need something, not when she needs something.
Speaker 6: I didn't think of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So to save you from looking like a terrible person,
Speaker 2: I think you need to maybe say, hey, did you
Speaker 2: get the flowers?
Speaker 1: Well he never says I sent him, but like, did
Speaker 1: you get the flowers? Like, maybe let her just assume.
Speaker 3: What do you think about that, Cash? Imply that flowers
Speaker 3: were setting implied.
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess that's one way to do it.
Speaker 4: It's not the worst idea I've ever heard, Jose What
Speaker 4: do you think?
Speaker 7: Well, it does look bad that you didn't respond to
Speaker 7: her for thirty days, all right, So that's why I
Speaker 7: think you need to say something along the lines of
Speaker 7: I've been so broken up over this, over your grandma
Speaker 7: passing away. Oh, you're now finally emotionally available to make
Speaker 7: this phone.
Speaker 1: It was harder on you that it wasn't her grandma right,
Speaker 1: won't make her mad at all.
Speaker 3: Come on, so you've got two pieces of advice to
Speaker 3: mediocre lies that you can toss her away. I mean,
Speaker 3: you're the one who dug this hole for yourself, so
Speaker 3: we're giving you a ladder to maybe climb out.
Speaker 5: You're right, that's what you mean.
Speaker 1: I'm ready.
Speaker 4: He doesn't sound very mentally athletic. Let's get ready to
Speaker 4: lie to your ex girlfriend. I'm doing your number right now.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 6: Hello, Hey, Cash.
Speaker 8: Why are you calling?
Speaker 6: WHOA? It's oh, I know how long it's been, right,
Speaker 6: So I just I guess I kind of felt bad
Speaker 6: about how things ended.
Speaker 5: And okay it wasn't in a really great face, but
Speaker 5: I just feel like neither was I.
Speaker 8: So that's not an excuse. But okay, you can keep
Speaker 8: talking at any time. I had nothing to say.
Speaker 6: I mean, you seem angry, so I'm trying. I'm doing
Speaker 6: my best.
Speaker 8: Okay, if you have nothing to say, then I'll ask
Speaker 8: a question. How come I haven't heard from you for months?
Speaker 8: And I was texting you and you never responded ever?
Speaker 5: Because I what in a good place, I didn't Yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Said that already.
Speaker 8: Neither would I come up with a better excuse.
Speaker 5: You can listen, I can explain it to you.
Speaker 8: You're talking, Well.
Speaker 6: That's not the first time you said that to me.
Speaker 5: I am aware.
Speaker 8: I also have a memory of our relationship, no matter
Speaker 8: how long.
Speaker 5: If you have a memory, then you know that it was. Basically,
Speaker 5: we're in a toxic cycle of the same both over
Speaker 5: and over again. So me not responding to you was
Speaker 5: an effort to break that.
Speaker 8: Why are you calling me now?
Speaker 6: What's the point? Why are you calling me now? Because
Speaker 6: I feel bad.
Speaker 5: About the way things. I feel bad about not responding
Speaker 5: when your grandmother died, I just felt like I couldn't
Speaker 5: at that point, and it took me along the process
Speaker 5: thirty days.
Speaker 8: It took you a while to process my grandmother.
Speaker 6: Okay, So how is this funeral.
Speaker 8: Funny? Thing about the whole situation?
Speaker 6: There's something funny about that situation?
Speaker 8: Well, I mean you're asking how the funeral is was,
Speaker 8: and I'm telling you that when I sent that text,
Speaker 8: I thought she was gonna die.
Speaker 6: That night, but she didn't wait what.
Speaker 8: She you know, pulled through, so there wasn't a funeral.
Speaker 6: She's still alive. Your grandmother dying, but.
Speaker 8: She looked like she was almost dead.
Speaker 5: Your grandmother always looked like she was almost dead.
Speaker 4: Amber, Amber, can you I'm so.
Speaker 6: Who is that?
Speaker 8: Who's on this call?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a radio show. We're called Brook and
Speaker 3: Jeffrey in the Morning. Yes, we're doing a segment here.
Speaker 3: It's called the Awkward Tuesday phone Call because you're.
Speaker 8: He called me on a radio show.
Speaker 2: Dude, it has been eating him up that he didn't
Speaker 2: respond after that.
Speaker 8: Grandma te Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure it has.
Speaker 1: Okay, do not believe that.
Speaker 5: No, I don't call your grandmother die. I didn't lie.
Speaker 8: I genuinely thought she was going to die, But then
Speaker 8: you never responded, So why would I update you?
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like there's good points on both sides.
Speaker 1: Why would you respond to your own text?
Speaker 5: So never mind, why would you produce somebody dead before
Speaker 5: they're dead?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 8: My mom told me she was about to die that night.
Speaker 6: And are you a prea?
Speaker 1: What does that have to do with anything?
Speaker 5: A pried?
Speaker 3: Okay, I understand that this situation wasn't handled the best way,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe on either side, But to me, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of history. There obviously a lot of fire in
Speaker 3: chemistry and we're trying to get back to before the
Speaker 3: break in communication.
Speaker 5: When we broke up something you don't know. My friends
Speaker 5: told me to go cold Turkey and not talk to you.
Speaker 8: What why would they even get involved?
Speaker 5: Well, because I think they saw the cycle that I
Speaker 5: was talking about.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but normally there's a conversation when a friendship ends,
Speaker 8: or anything ends, normally a conversationship.
Speaker 6: Remember, you broke up with me, right.
Speaker 8: But you could have responded.
Speaker 4: He wanted to respond, but his friends wouldn't let him.
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound good.
Speaker 8: Okay, so you only do what your friends tell you.
Speaker 4: What I just said, argument with each other.
Speaker 6: It wasn't just my friend, it was obvious.
Speaker 8: My god, So who else have you talked to about us?
Speaker 4: You know what? I think what you need to do,
Speaker 4: Cash is just tell her what you want.
Speaker 1: And moving forward?
Speaker 4: Going forward? What do you want to get in the future.
Speaker 5: Well, I was hoping despite all of this fake deaths,
Speaker 5: we should maybe go back to having some kind of
Speaker 5: friendship because I have missed you.
Speaker 4: The aw button My bad.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're running out of time for our segment here, Amber,
Speaker 3: so I don't want to rush you into this, But what.
Speaker 8: Do you think honestly, right now, I don't think I
Speaker 8: want to be your friend at the moment.
Speaker 6: I don't think I want it anymore, So.
Speaker 3: Boundary, Well, cash, call us back in two weeks and
Speaker 3: we can try this all over again.
Speaker 4: I'm sure it'll go better.
Speaker 5: Noah, let me know when your grandmother really has.
Speaker 6: That.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, brooking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 4: You know they're hooking up tonight, right, there's no way.
Speaker 3: That's the type of couple that can't stay together but
Speaker 3: can't stay away from each other.
Speaker 1: You know, I really heard in her voice that she
Speaker 1: wants nothing.
Speaker 2: To do with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, Jeff.
Speaker 3: I agree with jeff I heard the same thing in
Speaker 3: her voice, but in her body.
Speaker 4: That's a totally different story. I'm telling you, Bro's.
Speaker 1: On this one.
Speaker 3: That's the fue that I got during the call.
Speaker 4: A lot of fireworks. They are both good and bad.
Speaker 2: Clearly, see I got her just railroading him, just running
Speaker 2: a moment.
Speaker 4: He would love to be rail roaded, Gante.
Speaker 3: They definitely wanted to step back and process what just happened.
Speaker 3: My money is on them processing it together close off.
Speaker 1: No way.
Speaker 4: This makes me want to call him in like a
Speaker 4: week and be like, Okay, guys, let.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think we're ever going to get an
Speaker 2: update because I don't think they're ever going to talk again.
Speaker 1: That's my money. That's bad.
Speaker 4: That's too bad.
Speaker 3: But you know what, if you want to do some processing,
Speaker 3: you can go process the content on our podcast.
Speaker 4: A lot of good stuff on there. Good segue you
Speaker 4: find us at Brook and Jeffrey. Listen, close off if
Speaker 4: you want. We don't