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Speaker 2: Harrison dies for the up zone.

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Speaker 3: He's in Touchdown What a pick at the thirty five

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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 1: the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Trey McBride.

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Speaker 3: Heck of a play by the all world tight end

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Speaker 3: Tray McBride.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that was nasty right there right swam to the

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Speaker 4: ground by Budda Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul calvic.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: Well, if a picture says it all, I think this

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Speaker 3: picture right here says what we've already known for a

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Speaker 3: long time, that yours truly has been left behind in

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Speaker 3: more ways than one. Tempier Arizona, as we say, Welcome

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Speaker 3: to the Combine. Twenty twenty six, Indianapolis, Darren Urban, Danny

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Speaker 3: Sirek on the Road leaving yours truly behind to mine

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Speaker 3: the store, which, by the way, has a double entendre.

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Speaker 3: There's a little foreshadowing what I just said. But first

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Speaker 3: greetings out to Indianapolis and the Combine.

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Speaker 2: How are we doing?

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Speaker 4: Does it make you feel any better Paul that it

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Speaker 4: was a high of twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Degrees A little bit, actually, yes, a little bit. I

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Speaker 3: do take a little bit of glory in that, Yes,

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 4: Well, then there you go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was pretty chilly last night walking around.

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Speaker 6: Although some of us walked around, some of us insisted

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Speaker 6: on taking an uber for five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, wow, Well it took less than five

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Speaker 2: minutes for someone.

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Speaker 4: To better about yourself.

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Speaker 5: No, not really.

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Speaker 3: Okay, do you look like the typical Arizona residents who

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Speaker 3: are caught in the Midwest in February during a cold snap?

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Speaker 3: I mean, are you ill prepared?

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Speaker 4: I'm not input pared, which is actually what makes me

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Speaker 4: look like someone from Arizona because the coat I was

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Speaker 4: wearing Monday night when we got here to go outside,

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Speaker 4: Paul probably weighs ten pounds and it almost goes down

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Speaker 4: to my angle. It's very long and it's very thick,

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Speaker 4: but it kept me warm. Even in my quick uber.

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Speaker 5: Ride, Danny brought two different heavy coats.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was two, No, two winter coats, two

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Speaker 4: winter coats. I wouldn't say too heavy coats. So there's

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Speaker 4: there's a difference. And if you must understand, one is

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Speaker 4: actually a pretty light coat. The material is meant to

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Speaker 4: be good against wind, and it has a hood in

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Speaker 4: case there was any sort of precipitation. And my long

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Speaker 4: thick coat does not have a hood. And I was

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Speaker 4: already checking a bag, Paul, So why does it matter.

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Speaker 6: Well, you already are supposed to we are supposed to

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Speaker 6: get some snow later in the week.

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Speaker 3: You're an expense report. Check as many bags as you want.

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Speaker 3: It's break what's necessary. You're it for the job.

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Speaker 2: That's how that works over there.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, look, until the last twenty four hours,

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Speaker 3: yours truly actually had something in common with the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: brand new head coach Michae Lafleur. Neither one of us

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Speaker 3: had ever been to the combine. But now he has arrived.

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Speaker 3: According to Monti Austin for it, that's a job, that

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Speaker 3: Because there's something MANI said within the press conference, said

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Speaker 3: I want to get to momentarily, but first you guys

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Speaker 3: were there on the front line some big picture takeaways

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Speaker 5: Well, I would start with Monty, and let's be fair, Paul.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's I think Monty always plays his cards

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Speaker 6: pretty close to the chest, and today was no different.

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Speaker 6: He actually came out and had a opening statement about

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Speaker 6: and he basically said everything he said before. Our options

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Speaker 6: feels like at this point when it comes to the

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Speaker 6: if that makes any sense.

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Speaker 4: And Paul I actually was not able to be at

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Speaker 4: Awesome for it's podium press conference because I was teaser.

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Speaker 4: I was actually conducting an interview with the head coach

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Speaker 4: here very soon. But I was there for Laflor's podium

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Speaker 4: I've reached out, I've heard back from the quarterback, and

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Speaker 4: I'm going to leave the conversations at that. Somebody did

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Speaker 4: is considering, Well, yes, he wasn't coaching defense. The floor

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Speaker 4: has been in the NFC West for all of Murray's

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Speaker 4: tough of a week it is when prepping for Murray

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Speaker 4: how good of a player he is. Really kind of

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Speaker 4: left it at that, though, so long story short, not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at his quote right here. I went

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Speaker 3: back and listened to it. Mike Lafleur on the QB

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Speaker 3: situation quote, I'm open to embracing the best QB possible

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Speaker 3: and that's not just media speak. I mean, correct me

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Speaker 3: if I'm wrong. There are a lot of conversations happening

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Speaker 3: How do you know that someone isn't going to come

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Speaker 3: must seriously consider. I mean, this is where a lot

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Speaker 2: Am I wrong on that, Darren?

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Speaker 3: I mean that's one of the big benefits of attending

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Speaker 6: No, I think you're absolutely right, Paul. I think at

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Speaker 6: this point it's one of those situations. Look, I'm not

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Speaker 6: I think this is where things heat up. The agents

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Speaker 6: maybe with some other situations, is that oftentimes when we

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Speaker 6: Whereas in this case, because of that contractual trigger that

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Speaker 3: All right, So, Manias import let me get to what

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Speaker 3: I was referring to earlier. As you guys mentioned, he

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Speaker 3: had the opening statement all options on the table anticipating

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Speaker 3: the quarterback question. He got at least two or three

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Speaker 3: different ways, including a little bit later Malik Willis, Hey,

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Speaker 3: MANI you were with Malik Willison Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But not long after, just under the sixth minute mark,

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Speaker 3: Maniasivord Cardinals GM through out there, and I quote, who

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Speaker 3: knows if we're even going to be picking number three.

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Speaker 3: We've got a long way to go between now and then. Now,

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Speaker 3: you know my want to perhaps one plus one equals

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Speaker 3: three guys. But was he not saying we're open for business?

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Speaker 3: Was Manti Assafort not putting the open sign in the

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Speaker 4: You didn't need to hear Austome for it say that

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Speaker 4: That that, to me is I don't know if it's

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Speaker 4: is true. Right, the phone lines are going to be open. Now.

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Speaker 4: Considering this as a non quarterback heavy draft, do I

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Speaker 4: expect to see a lot of draft trades? No, I don't,

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Speaker 4: because I think this is going to be a lot

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Speaker 3: You know, when I go to start of this old car,

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Speaker 3: I just think Manias of Ort maybe was stoking the

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Speaker 3: my phone's been a little quiet, maybe enough people haven't

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Speaker 5: I may.

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Speaker 3: I just want to reinforce the fact that you know what,

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Speaker 3: I'll talk to you if you want to talk about

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Speaker 4: Sure. I also think part of saying that is what's

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Speaker 4: happening right here right is it's trying to get that

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Speaker 4: stay at three or they going to trade?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: Things that are going to happen, regardless of whether or

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Speaker 2: Talking and at dawns on me.

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Speaker 3: You guys don't have the benefit of seeing down the

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Speaker 3: line my fantastic open for business sign that I generated on.

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Speaker 4: Oh I can envision it off the printer.

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Speaker 2: All about three minutes ago, so you know that was

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Speaker 2: well done. There.

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Speaker 3: A little extra prop right there, Malik willis that I mean,

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Speaker 3: other than AJ Brown and all the talk nationally of

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Speaker 3: another diva receiver. By the way, there'd be no mention

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Speaker 3: of more mentions of AJ Brown during this podcast other

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Speaker 3: than that stealing headlines of the combine Malik Willis in

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Speaker 3: regards to his availability, And it's not just the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: Oregan he mentioned in these national stories, Dan right, you're

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Speaker 3: hearing about, oh, maybe the Dolphins because Jeff Hafley, the

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Speaker 3: obviously need a quarterback. And I mean there's dang near

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Speaker 3: a half dozen teams that potentially are being linked to

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Speaker 3: Malik Willis, just because other than Fernando Mendoza, what's your

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's that's the whole thing, right there, Paul,

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Speaker 6: is the fact that he's probably the best available quarterback

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Speaker 4: And that's and that's a good point. Look, we're obviously

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Speaker 4: It's a really interesting discussion online around Malik Willis in particular, and.

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Speaker 3: For everything I get it, I get it. Next year

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Speaker 3: Now they're willing to come off Malik Willis. They're going

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna say this about the very first point

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Speaker 6: I also think this is a unique situation. Malik Willis

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Speaker 6: you're not you can't really do anything with him. It's

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Speaker 6: of events with what Malik Willis is. Now I'll agree

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Speaker 5: Every year you're going to have a handful.

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Speaker 6: Of teams that are trying to improve or straighten out

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Speaker 5: This year is no different.

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Speaker 6: The difference is you don't have a big quarterback class

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Speaker 6: part because of what you just said, teams don't let

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Speaker 3: Is there much of a buzz about Malik Willis just

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Speaker 4: I haven't heard. It's cold, it is, you know, we

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Speaker 2: Not when you have two winter jackets. It isn't you,

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Speaker 4: Paul can probably feel the wrath from thousands of miles

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Speaker 2: It's amazing how much more bold I am from two

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Speaker 5: Away.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no kidding. I haven't heard specifically around Malik Willis

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Speaker 4: a lot of question marks about what the Cardinals are

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Speaker 4: It's it's a situation where you have to wait for

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Speaker 4: Malik Willis's name has come up, but I wouldn't say

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 6: It's funny you asked that because I just think generally

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Speaker 6: I mean, we've only been here about a day. But like,

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Speaker 5: And I don't see that.

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Speaker 6: It was expected, and it's and it's Kirk Cousins at

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Speaker 5: It's there. He's probably top of the board right now.

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Speaker 6: I think NFL dot Com had him as their number

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Speaker 5: It's just not gonna be that way.

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Speaker 3: Although there was an interesting comment from Michael Lafleur about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I have that quote here he said, Wow,

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Speaker 3: That was Mike Lafleur's comment, his reaction to when he

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Speaker 4: They tap out more work for less money.

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Speaker 5: Paul.

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Speaker 3: ninety percent of your time as a player during the

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Speaker 3: week is spent with your position coach. It's critical, it's vital.

441
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Speaker 3: So to Michael Lafleur's way of thinking, if you can

442
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Speaker 3: identify teachers, which would be in line with the mandate

443
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Speaker 3: from Anniosiford and Michael Bidwell when they made the change

444
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Speaker 3: to start the offseason player development. Right, So if you're

445
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Speaker 3: just looking for great teachers of the game, you know

446
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,959
Speaker 3: the position itself. If you can specialize in that position,

447
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 3: whether it's college or pro, and that can translate to

448
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Speaker 3: the player and translate to the field, I get it. So,

449
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Speaker 3: Matt shaub will see I shared this earlier. I said,

450
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Speaker 3: I don't think people realize how much time the starting

451
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Speaker 3: quarterback spends on the bench during a game while the

452
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Speaker 3: defense out on the field. With the quarterback coach, that

453
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Speaker 3: relationship is vital, It is critical. He's sort of your

454
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Speaker 3: mental health coach, right, You're sort of your your you

455
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Speaker 3: know the guys there, you know, with trying to let

456
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Speaker 3: you vent, and he'll absorb any frustration. You're going through

457
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Speaker 3: the tablet together. So regardless of who the quarterback is,

458
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Speaker 3: I think that's one of the more interesting hires on

459
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Speaker 3: this Cardinals list of new assistant coaches. I also thought

460
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Speaker 3: it was interesting, you guys tell me MANI Austin Ford

461
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Speaker 3: talking about how they're still formulating the new training staff,

462
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Speaker 3: the new strength and conditioning staff, and he said, and

463
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Speaker 3: I have it right here.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna look at.

465
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Speaker 3: How we structure practice, how we train, win players train,

466
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Speaker 3: and when everyone comes back in April, it's gonna be

467
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Speaker 3: a huge point emphasis. And that was in regard sort

468
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Speaker 3: of a long explanation the you know, the catalyst for

469
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Speaker 3: that conversation was injuries, player health. But it sounds like

470
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Speaker 3: changes are afoot on that front.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sorry, I was gonna say.

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Speaker 4: Something to notice is changes happen every year. I mean

473
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Speaker 4: the previous coaching staff, right, there was a change of

474
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Speaker 4: East Coast strips going from two days to one day.

475
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Speaker 4: So that's something that every staff is going to look

476
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Speaker 4: at after every season. And then when you have a

477
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Speaker 4: three win season, you're probably going to go through it

478
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Speaker 4: with a more of a fine tooth comb. And so

479
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Speaker 4: that makes sense especially well, yes, there's a certain degree

480
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Speaker 4: that luck comes into play when it comes to injuries.

481
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Speaker 4: I do think that is valid to look into, especially

482
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Speaker 4: a handful of players that have been acquired the last

483
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Speaker 4: couple of years who haven't dealt with injuries, who have

484
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Speaker 4: dealt with significant injuries, multiple injuries in Arizona. Is what

485
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Speaker 4: can you correlate in the sense of not blaming someone

486
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Speaker 4: or position, but what can you correlate the sense of

487
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Speaker 4: learning from it and preventing that and actually protecting players

488
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Speaker 4: in their safety.

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Speaker 6: I'm disappointed Paul, because, yeah, he had a longer answer

490
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Speaker 6: about the injuries, but you missed the best part of that, oh,

491
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Speaker 6: which was there are two things that suck about life

492
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Speaker 6: in the NFL, and that's injuries and losing. Unfortunately, we

493
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Speaker 6: suffered a lot of both last year. That might have

494
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Speaker 6: been the most bare bones.

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Speaker 4: You appreciate the self awareness.

496
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Speaker 5: It's so true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tooche, I buried the lead on that one. You're

498
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Speaker 2: absolutely right.

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Speaker 5: I do think I think there's gonna be some changes.

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Speaker 5: I don't. I don't.

501
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Speaker 6: I do anticipate some of this of the strength and

502
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Speaker 6: conditioning staff being retained who they are yet I'm not sure.

503
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Speaker 5: I think they're in the process of that. I don't.

504
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Speaker 6: I don't think there's gonna be a complete makeover, but

505
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Speaker 6: I do think there's going to be a makeover in

506
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Speaker 6: people and in in how they structure things.

507
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Speaker 3: Anything else, any other topics jump out, either Mike Lafleur

508
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Speaker 3: or Mantias support with the media. I mean, the quarterback

509
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Speaker 3: they question got a lot, but beyond that, what else.

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Speaker 6: The only other thing that kind of stuck in my

511
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Speaker 6: head was they asked. The questions were asked about contract

512
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Speaker 6: extensions for Paris Johnson.

513
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Speaker 5: And Michael Wilson.

514
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Speaker 6: Not surprisingly, Monty was not willing to say, yoh, yeah,

515
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Speaker 6: that's absolutely gonna happen, but he basically said that they

516
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Speaker 6: want both those guys around long term and gave them

517
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Speaker 6: flowery praise and if you last year, one of the

518
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Speaker 6: actually the biggest topic on this day because of where

519
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Speaker 6: the Cardinals were with everything, was a Trey McBride extension,

520
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Speaker 6: and they were kind of they basically said the same

521
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Speaker 6: kind of thing, and then on April third, Trey McBride

522
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Speaker 6: has an extension, So we'll see what happens. Michael Wilson

523
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Speaker 6: is more in the McBride area, whereas he's going to

524
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Speaker 6: be a free agent after this year. Paris Johnson, they

525
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Speaker 6: can still use the fifty year option and that would

526
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Speaker 6: boost his twenty twenty seven salaried over twenty million dollars

527
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Speaker 6: if they played on it. I'm sure they'd like to

528
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Speaker 6: get both of them done. I would expect Wilson to

529
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Speaker 6: be a little bit more pressing because the timing is

530
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Speaker 6: a little bit more in there. But judging by what

531
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Speaker 6: he said today, whether it's in April or in June

532
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Speaker 6: or whatever.

533
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Speaker 5: August.

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Speaker 6: I do think that those are coming for both those

535
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Speaker 6: guys at some point.

536
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Speaker 3: So Danny, You and Craig Griolou in particular, had a

537
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Speaker 3: chance to talk with a bunch of the luminaries in

538
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Speaker 3: the draft world, right the draft analysts, those who put

539
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Speaker 3: up the mock drafts. Daniel Jeremiah, You had, Dane Brugler,

540
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 3: Charles Davis. I'm probably forgetting three.

541
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Speaker 4: Or four met Boradan Reid with ESPN.

542
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Speaker 3: What stood out in terms of maybe strengths of this draft.

543
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Speaker 3: If the Cardinals aren't going quarterback, then where could or

544
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Speaker 3: would they go?

545
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 4: Edge rushers? Seems to be the unanimous answer of where

546
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 4: this draft class is pretty deep, and there's three names

547
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Speaker 4: that are getting brought up amongst every analyst for the

548
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Speaker 4: top of those groups of David Bailey, Reuben Bain and

549
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Speaker 4: Rvel Reese and being having those three described essentially as

550
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Speaker 4: whatever kind of ice cream flavor you would prefer, of

551
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 4: having different traits, Reese being more of an off ball

552
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 4: player and teams deciding if they want him lined up

553
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 4: on the defensive line more as an outside linebacker, and

554
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 4: having their strengths there of what makes sense for a defense.

555
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 4: When it comes to offensive lineman, which is a lot

556
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 4: of the discussions as well, it's two names, It's Spencer

557
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 4: Fono and it's Francis Mauiinoa to offensive tackles, and that's

558
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 4: an interesting discussion because the edge rushers are a lot deeper,

559
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 4: not so deep for an offensive line. But now they

560
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 4: have had praises for Day two or three of still

561
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 4: finding a player up at the top of those rounds

562
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Speaker 4: where the Cardinals are picking, but in terms of first round,

563
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 4: it really seems to be those are the two big

564
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 4: names that have everybody's eyes. And a position though that

565
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 4: has gotten a lot of excitement when looking past those

566
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Speaker 4: top first picks in the first round is DB's cornerbacks safeties.

567
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Speaker 4: While those might not be pressing needs at the front

568
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Speaker 4: of the mind for Cardinals fans, remember that Garrett Williams

569
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Speaker 4: suffered an achilles injury at the end of the season,

570
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Speaker 4: so the likelihood of him missing a significant amount of

571
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 4: time next season is pretty high. So the Cardinals could

572
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 4: very well be in the market for a nickel cornerback.

573
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there seems to be a shift in the mock drafts.

574
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: Everyone's coming out with two point zero and three point zero.

575
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Speaker 3: It seemed like one point zero across the board was

576
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Speaker 3: either fan Ou or Mauio the tackle. And now this

577
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 3: next wave of mock drafts is more prone or likely

578
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Speaker 3: to have the Cardinals going edge. The three names Danny

579
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: just mentioned mel Kiper two point zero came out earlier today.

580
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Speaker 3: For example, David Bailey, the Stamford transfer who went to

581
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 3: Texas Tech fourteen and a half sacks as ridiculous athleticism.

582
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Speaker 3: I heard one story he had twenty two miles per

583
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: hour in a game for Tech last year as an

584
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Speaker 3: edge six', THREE i mean a huge and so, okay that's.

585
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Speaker 3: Intriguing but there's two ways to think about, It. Darren

586
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: either a edge is the most loaded position in the,

587
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Speaker 3: draft and at number three overall you're taking the best.

588
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: Position or b there's so many edge players you wait

589
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: to the top around two because they do Believe Daniel.

590
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: Jeremiah danny Mentioned neil the common. Waves there's the three

591
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: names at the very top of the. Draft there's another

592
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Speaker 3: group or batch of edge rushers that would be late round,

593
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Speaker 3: one top round, two your edge guy there if you're The,

594
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: cardinals and if there's really only two franchise. Tackles, well

595
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Speaker 3: you have your choice at number.

596
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Speaker 5: Three well here's the, thing this is why the evaluation

597
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Speaker 5: is so. Important here's WHAT i don't believe.

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Speaker 6: In and that is, again when you say franchise, tackles

599
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 6: potential franchise, tackles you're, right just like these are potential edge.

600
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Speaker 6: Guys but if you come out and you, say And

601
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Speaker 6: i'm just throwing numbers out, HERE i don't know anything

602
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Speaker 6: AND i don't think.

603
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Speaker 5: They have grades.

604
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Speaker 6: Yet but let's say you have even the lowest of

605
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Speaker 6: those three edge rushers as like a ninety, one but

606
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Speaker 6: you have the two tackles at like eighty three and eighty.

607
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Speaker 6: Two that's an you take the edge. RUSHER i, mean,

608
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Speaker 6: yeah you could get the franchise, tackle because you, could

609
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Speaker 6: but you could also get another tackle in the second.

610
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Speaker 6: Round who, yeah he's not gonna be as good as

611
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Speaker 6: one of those first. Ones but the edge rusher you

612
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 6: get in the second round isn't going to be nearly

613
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Speaker 6: as good as that guy at the top of the draft,

614
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Speaker 6: Either and to, me that's where you can sometimes.

615
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 5: Get in your own. Way YOU.

616
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Speaker 6: I, know everybody kind of scoffs at the best player,

617
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Speaker 6: available but you gotta get good. PLAYERS i, Mean i've

618
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Speaker 6: heard more times from other teams of late of like

619
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Speaker 6: you have to get elite players to be a good.

620
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Speaker 6: Team and right, now with all due respect to The,

621
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Speaker 6: CARDINALS i think one of the things they're missing is elite.

622
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Speaker 6: Players when The cardinals were really good in twenty. Fifteen

623
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Speaker 6: AND i don't want it just to be about personalities or,

624
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 6: everything but you could probably tick off what seven eight

625
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 6: guys on that team that you could call an elite

626
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 6: player that like move the, meter whether it Was Tyron

627
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Speaker 6: matthew Or Patrick peterson Or Kalais campbell Or Larry fitzgerald

628
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Speaker 6: or And i'm they're other ones That i'm missing off

629
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Speaker 6: the top of my.

630
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Speaker 5: Head but like that was a star studded.

631
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Speaker 6: Team David, johnson like this team. Doesn't when you look

632
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 6: at this current, roster who is that?

633
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Speaker 4: Guy, well not to mention when you talk about best player,

634
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 4: available edge rusher are still in eat that's still an

635
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 4: area where outside Of Josh, sweat they're gonna need more

636
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: of an impact. There so that's that's the, blessing right

637
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: is if we're going to talk about an offensive lineman

638
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: or an edge, rusher good news for The cardinals is

639
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 4: they can use.

640
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Speaker 3: Both, well, yeah to your, point anybody remember what The

641
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: cardinals needs were in twenty twenty two when they Took

642
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: trey McBride, yep because supposedly they didn't need a tight

643
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: end in the middle of round two in twenty twenty.

644
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Speaker 3: Two anybody remember what The cardinals needs were in twenty

645
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: seventeen when they Drafted Buddha baker near the top around.

646
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: Two if you get those really good, players it's funny

647
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: how you forget what the needs and.

648
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Speaker 2: Wants To paul that.

649
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Speaker 3: Year it's you, Know Dan brugeler told, You, DANNY i

650
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: MEAN i sort of nodded and, laughed but it's so.

651
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: True you, know it all boils down, to Like darren

652
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: sort of, said what other teams draft good? Players and

653
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: if that is a generational player for the most, part

654
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: regardless of the, position then you got to go grab

655
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: that that. Person and to, me especially what we've seen

656
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: last two years and the Two Super bowl, champions The

657
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: eagles And, seahawks how did they overcome how did they

658
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: get to That Lombardi?

659
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: Trophy, well guess? What they hit and harassed and affected the.

660
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 4: Quarterback Dame burglar's point on that is not to knock

661
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 4: this draft, class but the fact that it is not

662
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: a heavy quarterback draft. Class he, says there's not A

663
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 4: Miles garrett or A Mica person's right off the, bat

664
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 4: which is, okay that's going to happen as years, fluctuate

665
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 4: which is why you want to get a good, player

666
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 4: not just somebody with the skill set who can come

667
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 4: and make an impact right, away but the right kind

668
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 4: of player who you know is going to progress and

669
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 4: develop and long term still get you those great plays

670
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,239
Speaker 4: and make a difference, two, three four years down the.

671
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 6: Line and, also not only is there not A Miles,

672
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 6: garrett there's definitely not A Walter jones Or Jonathan ogden.

673
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 6: Either so like, again you want to be small art

674
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 6: with what you take and get the best players, available.

675
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 5: And we'll see where this.

676
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 6: Goes and it's it's just it's kind of funny because

677
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 6: given the situation The cardinals are in most any.

678
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 5: Other year we'd be talking all we to be talking

679
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 5: about is the.

680
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 4: Quarterbacks, well and we still have free agency to get

681
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 4: to you before the, draft which DO i think that

682
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: that will necessarily have a huge. Impact not, necessarily because

683
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 4: you're always going to want to beef up the. Trenches,

684
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: Right you're always going to want to have a, strong

685
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: stout offensive. Line you can always use great edge, rushers

686
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: and regardless of who the quarterback, is that quarterback is

687
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: going to need. Protection but we could be, surprised and

688
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 4: it was A Josh sweat splash, signing and it's. Possible

689
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: let's say maybe The cardinals are able to snag a

690
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: starting right tackle per se right in free. Agency that

691
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 4: could probably change what the priority is at number.

692
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: Three speaking of, TACKLE i was so happy to Hear

693
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 3: Daniel jeremiah express a little bit of dismay in your

694
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: review you And Craig griolu And Daniel JEREMIAH Andfl network

695
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: About Francis mauiinoa because he's listed at six six anywhere

696
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: from like.

697
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: Three h five to three.

698
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: Fifteen but there was an INTERVIEW i was looking at

699
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 3: to start last season With miami with THE u and

700
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: one of the coaches was saying he was three forty

701
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: five with a body fat percentage of less than twenty.

702
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 3: Percent and that's exactly What Daniel jeremiah. Said so Now i'm, Wondering,

703
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: okay this is the one MEASURABLE i want to see

704
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: how big is this? Guy what is he weigh because

705
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: to you, know to Deanrew jeremiah's, point there's a huge

706
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: difference in those two.

707
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: Measurements that's a huge.

708
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 4: Difference and to be that big and essentially be all

709
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 4: muscle this. Crazy it was.

710
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 6: FUNNY i was hearing The LIONS Gm Martin mayhew was

711
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 6: talking today and somebody asked him where he thought the

712
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 6: strengths of this draft, were and he was very, apologetic

713
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 6: but he, said he, goes you, know in previous, Years

714
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 6: i've always answered that. Question i've been pretty open to

715
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 6: HOW i feel about. It but he, said What i've

716
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 6: come to realize is WHAT i feel WHEN i talking

717
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 6: to you guys at the combine here at the beginning

718
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 6: of the week in Late, FEBRUARY i don't feel the

719
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 6: same in five weeks after. That so we kind of,

720
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 6: hesitated and who, knows maybe we get to three or

721
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 6: four weeks down the road and, yeah people are still

722
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 6: gonna like the edge, rushers but maybe these tackles people

723
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 6: are going to start doing a little bit more homework and, realizing,

724
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 6: okay you, know maybe maybe maybe things are a little bit.

725
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 6: Different so we'll we'll find out where that. Goes what

726
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 6: you don't, want obviously is that whole, like, well the

727
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 6: combine changed, everything and we watched all this film and

728
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 6: and but never mind because what we sough at the

729
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 6: combine because this dude has got five percent body fat

730
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 6: and his three hundred and forty five, pounds we'd rather

731
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 6: have them when you, know you know.

732
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 5: Who else had that kind of make?

733
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 6: Up Tony Manderich, Paul, oh oh, yeah that's that's an

734
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 6: all time poll right.

735
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 5: There, well, yeah thank, You yeah number. Two danny has

736
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 5: no idea What i'm talking.

737
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 4: About, yeah that's and then when they, really as is

738
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 4: the case most of the, time, well.

739
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: When they really started testing out as when, look.

740
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 5: And i'm not imploying that with any player right. Now

741
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 5: i'm just saying of.

742
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 4: Draft to your point, though is typically and an ideal,

743
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 4: world the combine doesn't necessarily drastically change anything for a. Player,

744
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: now there's, benefits, absolutely especially in those, meetings in those

745
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 4: one on one, settings the tape doesn't, lie and that

746
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 4: that's really where teams get an idea of the type

747
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 4: of player somebody. Is you have your scouting, department go

748
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: out and travel and get a better idea of the

749
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 4: type of personality that player is how coachable are? They

750
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: and that's what things like All Star, games A Senior

751
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 4: bowl is understanding having your own, coaches part of your

752
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 4: staff go and be involved in those is understanding how

753
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 4: coachable a player. Is the combine is one of those,

754
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 4: areas similar to a pro day or bringing a player

755
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: into the building for one of those final interviews is

756
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: really just the cherry on top of making sure this

757
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 4: is who we thought this player in person. Was it's

758
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: usually not something that's going to drastically change a team's

759
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: decision on.

760
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: Somebody here's One Ruben Bain. Junior what is he gonna measure?

761
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: At because right Here i'm looking AT nfl dot, com

762
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: sixty three two seventy is his draft. Profile but when

763
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 3: you Watch Ruben Bain, junior does he look like he's sixty?

764
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 3: Three doesn't he look more Like James? Harrison and So

765
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: i'm curious about that one because that has been a

766
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: name that has been attached to The cardinals and number three.

767
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 4: Overall.

768
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: Uh he was really, dynamic especially In december And january

769
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: in the college football. Season he has a nasty edge to.

770
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: Him he's known as being a real dog and kin

771
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: to A James, harrison there's.

772
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: That is there anyone? Else is there one who's gonna

773
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: threaten you, know the four to two one all time forty.

774
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: Record is?

775
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 3: There is there any other player comeing in with a

776
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 3: certain buzz around him that people want to see the

777
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 3: workout or the.

778
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 6: Measurables i'm sure there's a lot of guys with the.

779
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 6: MEASURABLES i, mean you Mentioned, baine some of these these.

780
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 6: TACKLES i, mean until you know and, somebody AND i

781
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 6: can't remember which which it, was one coach was talking

782
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 6: about you don't the, underclassman you don't really have the

783
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 6: right measurables the seniors in some cases you've already scouted.

784
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 6: Them with the guys that declared early for the, draft

785
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 6: this is really the first chance you're getting to get

786
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 6: true measurables out of.

787
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 5: Them So i'm sure some of that will be looked.

788
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 6: At that the famous hand Size paul for. Quarterbacks, sure

789
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 6: my Buddy Darren gant's favorite. Topic but you, KNOW i

790
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 6: think ultimately it's going to be it'll be the measurables

791
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 6: that a lot of this comes out. To it was

792
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 6: really Funny Todd bowles was talking about our Former cardinals defensive. Coordinator,

793
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 6: now the head coach of The buccaneers was talking today

794
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 6: about coming to the combine and he was asked about

795
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 6: what's The is it a benefit to come to the

796
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 6: combine these days or? Not or you, know why do you?

797
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 6: Come and he basically, said it's good to be, here

798
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 6: but pretty much most things that you really want to

799
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 6: do at this point you could probably do Remind and

800
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 6: then somebody, said then why do you still come to the?

801
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 6: Combine and he goes to talk to you.

802
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 4: Guys so, nice, right he misses, You, darren clearly here it.

803
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: IS i JUST i just looked it. Up it Was

804
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: alabama Quarterback Jalen milroe who experienced the notable rapid change

805
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: in hand.

806
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: Size tell your buddy this.

807
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 3: One it was last year eight and three quarters at

808
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 3: The Senior bowl and then all of a, sudden magically

809
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: at The combine nine and three.

810
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: Eights so IF i.

811
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 6: IF i recall, correctly there was some issues AT i

812
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 6: think The Senior bowl were with the measurements of some

813
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 6: of that. Stuff but don't don't don't be bagging On Jalen.

814
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 6: Milroe he's got A Super bowl.

815
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 5: Ring now that's.

816
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: True you're, right and they didn't Use Jalen milroe nearly

817
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: as much AS i we. Forecasted uh, no don't, worry

818
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: He'll he'll be the next guy we.

819
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 4: Forecasting you, know you know WHAT i am thinking in

820
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 4: real time, Though, darren how? Excited you? Know all this

821
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 4: talk is reminding me how close we are to the,

822
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 4: draft which means we're that much closer To paul all

823
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 4: twenty three players to keep an eye on a training

824
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 4: camp to make the.

825
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 5: Team that's a good, point you, know.

826
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: Like, Maniacibor i'm open for business over. Here that's the

827
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 2: way the sign right, now trading down for more.

828
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 3: Picks it is amazing WHEN i get the rare, VICTORY

829
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: i trumpet. It but then when you know my numerous,

830
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 3: failures it's a wee. Problem it's.

831
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 4: Amazing your, wins, Though, paul they never. DIE i, Mean

832
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 4: i'm here In, indianapolis AND i know that the cocktail

833
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: At sante almost nineteen ninety. Five because you're a wise, guy.

834
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: Went that's, true all, Right so, yeah tell us about the,

835
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 3: nightlife tell us about what's been going, on you, know

836
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: what what's on the docket between because it's you know

837
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: now that the press conferences have gone down with the

838
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: head coach AND.

839
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: Gm guess, what there's more personal, time is there? Not

840
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: we still got a lot of work to out this.

841
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 4: Fall, TONIGHT i, Mean, Darren darren's going to the basketball.

842
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 5: Game i'm going after going to the basketball Game Pacers.

843
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 5: Sixers but, yeah we.

844
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 6: Still have Uh danny still has to sit downs one

845
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 6: on ones With monty And floor tomorrow that we have

846
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 6: to get. Done there's some interviews THAT i would like

847
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 6: to take part. In in, fact, TOMORROW i want to

848
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 6: be around For baine And bailey and see what they

849
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 6: have to say potentially about being An Arizona cardinal and

850
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 6: stuff like. That so there's still lots to, do and

851
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 6: it's not like we're looking to like hang out, outside

852
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 6: so we might as well stay inside and get workedne.

853
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 4: A lot More cardinals cover two, podcasts, interviews doing some

854
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 4: things for social AND tv shows and all that stuff this.

855
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 4: Week don't, worry, Though, paul we Will we will make

856
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 4: time to have some fun out In.

857
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: Indianapolis, Okay so it's been a business trip so, far

858
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: allegedly all, yeah so what temperatures in the? Twenties do

859
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: you appreciate The cardinals groundbreaking more than? Ever considering it

860
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: was like seventy two hours ago and you were standing

861
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: out there in the glorious.

862
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 6: Sunshine, YES i do miss that, already although you know

863
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 6: again that first of, all that already feels like it

864
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 6: was about three weeks ago because that Was, thursday and

865
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 6: then we Had cardinals Climb. Saturday but the groundbreaking looks

866
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 6: it looks like it's gonna be a great, facility obviously

867
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 6: not opening until twenty twenty, eight but the wheels are

868
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 6: finally in motion in terms of getting that put, together

869
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 6: and it will benefit this team and it will benefit the.

870
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 5: Players now again we're gonna have what this will.

871
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 6: Be This we still have two combines after this to

872
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 6: go to before anybody moves into, that so.

873
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 5: We don't know what the roster is going to look.

874
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 5: Like but whoever's around in twenty twenty, eight it's gonna

875
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 5: be a great.

876
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 2: Thing, yeah us. Included what's it that's.

877
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: True what's intriguing is that the team had their eyes

878
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: on that piece of, property which is a premier location

879
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 3: AND i think will only get better with time for

880
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: the last ten. Years and then they also have a

881
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: ten year vision as to how the two hundred and

882
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: seventeen acres will be built out way beyond just, football the,

883
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: retail the, resididential the, restaurants everything. Else a lot of

884
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 3: state of the art, design you, know shaded, walkways everything

885
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: else that's going to. GO i, mean for, example the

886
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: one the one comp that was thrown out, there The,

887
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: star The cowboys training, Facility, danny you're very. Familiar you

888
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: can take the baton here in a second is ninety

889
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 3: something acres and this site is two hundred and seventeen.

890
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: Acres just to give a sense of the size and

891
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: potential of The cardinals.

892
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 4: New, headquarners not just the potential for the headquarters, opening

893
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 4: but for the long. Haul there's going to be a

894
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 4: lot more space as they decide to continue to grow that,

895
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: area WHICH i think is really. Cool AND i love

896
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 4: the fact that it's not just going to be for

897
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 4: football fans and it's going to have a little bit

898
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 4: of something for everybody and if businesses want to come

899
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 4: out and they want to host people that they have,

900
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 4: visiting and it's really going to have something for. Everybody

901
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 4: it's in a really beautiful part of. TOWN i mean

902
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 4: we're standing, there, yes on an open dirt, lot but

903
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 4: The Medowle mountains that were behind us in the frames of.

904
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 4: Everything we're just beautiful to look.

905
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 5: At.

906
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 3: Uh and then you Had cardinals Climb. Darren i'm really.

907
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: Intrigued did anyone give you a? Battle you know you

908
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: did the advance. Trail did Did burnsy come up and

909
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: maybe give, you you, know a run for your?

910
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: MONEY i know it.

911
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: Wasn't Wolf wolfe was totally host right out of the.

912
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: Gate anybody, else any any any unsuspecting combatant you had

913
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: to deal.

914
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 5: With first of, All i'm BUMMED i didn't get a

915
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 5: chance to see, You. PAUL i had heard that you

916
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 5: were out and. About i'm not sure where you, were

917
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 5: BUT i know you were, there so props to.

918
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: YOU i was in THE i was on the upper

919
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: deck somewhere When Darius robinson was crossing the finish, line and,

920
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: that you know. What it was great to see and

921
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: hear the names of a lot of different players who

922
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: participated as.

923
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: Well, yeah it.

924
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 5: Was it was a great.

925
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 6: Event HAVING i forget what it, was eight, nine ten

926
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 6: players out there was really. Cool trey McBride And Michael

927
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 6: wilson couldn't have been nicer when they were like interacting

928
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 6: with people and doing autographs and the selfies and.

929
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 5: Stuff so it. Was it was a great event to

930
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 5: raise money for special.

931
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 6: Needs it's the first of hopefully many many And i'm

932
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 6: sure we'll be re talking about it again next. Year

933
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 6: you could still actually donate all the way Through march

934
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 6: tenth if you just go. TOO i believe it's Asy

935
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 6: Cardinals Cardinals.

936
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 4: Climb cardinals climb dot.

937
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: Com, yeah that's what it, Is cardinalsclimb dot com at

938
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 3: your one stop shop right. There it was amazing how

939
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 3: much work was put into the. EVENT i Mean i'm

940
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: walking around.

941
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: Going this is no small. Thing this is no small term.

942
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 3: To pull this off with a level of, detail water,

943
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: STATIONS i mean they had fresh.

944
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 4: Fruit at the.

945
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: END i mean all these little DETAIL i do you

946
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: even think of a lot of this. Stuff it runs

947
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 2: to you By albertson's fresh rout By. Albertson's really well,

948
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: done especially for a first, time first year. Event, yes you,

949
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: know they did their.

950
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 3: Homework and then to go right from the stadium to

951
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 3: The Great lawn and they have two or three great

952
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 3: bands and just the after.

953
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 2: Party it was just really well. Executed the weather couldn't

954
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: have been. Better it was. Outstanding it really was well

955
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: and you.

956
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 5: Figure it's only going to get better as you go

957
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 5: year to year and you're able to build on.

958
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 4: It so that's your warm up For tilman.

959
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 5: Run there you, go.

960
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 3: So.

961
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: Okay so there's, that and then there's the.

962
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: News guys that came out not long After cardinals climb

963
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 3: couldn't have been more, shocking.

964
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 2: And it was the loss Of Rondelle.

965
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: Moore the authorities, say at least as of right, now

966
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: self inflicted gunshot wound and he was found in the

967
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: garage of his home In, indiana twenty five years of.

968
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: Age Rondeale, moore and based on the social media posts

969
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: from the likes Of Hollywood brown And Kyler, murray he'd

970
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 3: been interacting with some of his former teammates earlier that same.

971
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 4: Day IT i, mean it's it's such a tragy that

972
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 4: we don't ever or want to be talking. About And

973
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 4: rondale was someone who was very humble and kind and

974
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 4: When kyle and our, department one of our, PRODUCERS i

975
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 4: think put it really well when we were talking About

976
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 4: rondale's memory of he felt like you were just talking

977
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 4: to anybody else in the, building didn't necessarily feel like

978
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 4: you were talking to professional. Athletes someone who was drafted

979
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 4: in the second, round and he was really a joy

980
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: to be. Around AND i think this is a really

981
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 4: harring reminder that one you don't know what people are

982
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: dealing with behind closed, doors and to the rise of

983
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 4: sports gambling and fantasy, football and how easy it can

984
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 4: be for somebody from their couch to message players or

985
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 4: talk about them in such an awful manner that your

986
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 4: words do, matter and it's a really horrible tragedy for

987
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 4: somebody to feel that way and feel like there is

988
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 4: no way. Out AND i know that this is a football,

989
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 4: podcast but if there's one note or one person who

990
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 4: can take something away from, this it's that it's okay

991
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 4: to not always be, okay and that the weight can

992
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 4: be heavy to, bear but sometimes the hardest step is

993
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 4: simply asking for help and that there are. Resources and

994
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: hopefully this is, again well an unfortunate, tragedy hopefully something

995
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 4: that can continue that conversation and the importance of mental,

996
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 4: health men's mental health and mental health for.

997
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 3: Athletes, yeah and especially among. Men you, know to reach

998
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 3: out and ask for help is never a sign of.

999
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 3: Weakness it's a sign of being, wise being, smart doing

1000
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 3: the right, thing and it's just staggering the loss Of

1001
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 3: rondelle at age twenty. Five we all got to know

1002
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: him really. WELL i, Mean i'm sitting here And i'm

1003
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: recollecting a Big Red rage interview where he's sitting in

1004
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 3: this chair right here Where darren normally, sits and we

1005
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 3: talked about him and his famous squad of six hundred

1006
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: pounds that was captured on video when he was At,

1007
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: purdue and him recounting how he got six hundred pounds

1008
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: off the rack and it was on his back and he,

1009
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: said oh my, goodness this is weight Unlike i've ever felt.

1010
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: Before and he said it wasn't as much setting a

1011
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 3: record as it was like self, preservation just the adrenaline

1012
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 3: OF i better get this back up out of the

1013
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: squad position and onto the, rack even though he had

1014
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: about a dozen teammates around him who were ready to spot.

1015
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: Him but such an intelligent guy and so well, spoken and,

1016
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: yeah such a.

1017
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 5: LOSS i.

1018
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 6: Wrote this On saturday, Night BUT i just remember the

1019
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 6: whole story about him buying a house for his mother

1020
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 6: and he was gonna have it be a, surprise and

1021
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 6: it might have been to. Her but he had a

1022
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 6: training camp press conference and he was talking about, it

1023
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 6: and then we're all, like, wait you haven't presented it

1024
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 6: to your mom, yet and he goes, no and we're

1025
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 6: all kind of, like, well you're kind of putting it

1026
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 6: out to the world right, now and he kind of was, like,

1027
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 6: oops but, Uh.

1028
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 5: And that's the kind of THING i. REMEMBER i just.

1029
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 6: Given the, CIRCUMSTANCES i just want to, SAY i am

1030
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 6: somebody who has gone to therapy for a while, now

1031
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 6: and it was funny at. FIRST i didn't really want

1032
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 6: to let anybody know that until my therapy therapist finally

1033
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 6: said why and in a circumstance like, this like how

1034
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 6: you're saying about especially for, MEN i do think it's

1035
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 6: important for me to pass that along just because it's

1036
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 6: it's it's been.

1037
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 5: Really good for.

1038
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 6: ME i absolutely think it's made a difference in my,

1039
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 6: life AND i JUST i want to really encourage people

1040
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 6: that are in some sort of, way and even if you're,

1041
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 6: not you'd be amazed if you go to therapy what

1042
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 6: kinds of things you can kind of work, on even

1043
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 6: if you don't think you're that.

1044
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: Person AND i just want to say that it's well,

1045
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: done dark it really. Is it's and you know, what.

1046
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 3: Maybe in some way you, know it just continues to

1047
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 3: spark more conversation and hopefully we'll continue to see improvement

1048
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 3: on that. Front until, Then rest in, Peace Rondelle. MORE

1049
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 3: i don't know if you guys have any other closing

1050
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 3: thoughts statements Regards, rondale the, combine any all the.

1051
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: Above feel.

1052
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 6: FREE i don't want. TO i certainly don't want to

1053
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 6: have it be. Weird but you know, again we're we're

1054
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 6: we're all in a good place right. Now if you need,

1055
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 6: help get. Help but the combine does go, on and we.

1056
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 6: WILL i will see IF i can Get danny to

1057
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 6: have some shrimp cocktail onesday.

1058
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 4: Night is it on your?

1059
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 5: Card not on my, card but it'll be on a

1060
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 5: card as long as as not. Mine and, well and

1061
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 5: we'll figure this.

1062
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 6: Out from here because it will be interesting kind of

1063
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 6: where The cardinals kind of go in these next two,

1064
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 6: months both with draft and with.

1065
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 5: Quarterback someday we'll figure that.

1066
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 4: Out we miss, You, Paul not to speak For, darren

1067
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 4: but we miss, You.

1068
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: Paul, yeah there was a lot of.

1069
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 3: Tech if there was a loight, detector the buzzer would

1070
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 3: have gone off right there would have gone exactly.

1071
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 2: That's, right exactly what that would have.

1072
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: Done all, right, guys well, done good job as always once,

1073
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: again you, KNOW i think the graphic here says it.

1074
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: All the two people deployed to the front, line so the,

1075
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: combine and then the person left. Behind it says it.

1076
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 3: All AND i think we've had everything that we wanted

1077
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: to say here On cardinals on The, ground brought to

1078
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 3: you By Pacific Office automation