1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Hey, discos. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: Need a little more Disgraceland in your life, just to 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: touch to get you through. 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, need too. 5 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast Welcome 6 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: to Disgraceland after Bertie. 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: Hey, what's up everybody? 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: On this week's after party episode, We've got a special 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: episode for you this week. A couple weeks ago here 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: in Boston, I had the opportunity to sit down with 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: a bona fide rock star and talk to him about 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 2: not being a rock star, because you can get that 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: sort of thing anywhere these days, but instead about his 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 2: new podcast, because that's our side of the street here 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: in Disgraceland. The rock star is, of course Chris Shifflet, 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: guitarist and the Foo Fighters. And you know Chris. If 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: you know Chris, you know he's a serious guitar player. 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: He eats and sleeps guitar and can shred with the 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: best to them. And shredding is what is new podcast 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: is all about. It's called Shred with Shifty And I 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: won't get into it too much here because we cover 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: it pretty extensively in the interview. But if you're a 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: fan of the guitar, if you're a guitarist or whether 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: or not you're a pro, or you're a hack like me, 25 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: or an aspiring guitarist, or maybe you've got kids that 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: are taking lessons. Whatever the case, if you have any 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: interesting guitar or any interesting guitar gods, then you're going 28 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: to want to subscribe to Chris's podcast, Shred with Shifty. 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: Subscribe to Shred with Shifty wherever you get your podcasts. 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: Did I mention that it's produced by us here at 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: Double Elvis? I probably should have it? Is all right anyway, 32 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: without further hulabaloo, here is my interview with Chris Shifflett 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: of the Foo Fighters, recorded live in front of an 34 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: audience at the Boston Calling Music Festival a couple of 35 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: weeks ago. I'll be back with your voicemails and texts 36 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: and recommendations. 37 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: And next week's after party. All right, let's get into it. 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: Boston Calling. 39 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: How is everybody doing? All right? 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: Another round of applause for Chris shiftlets. 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: Thank you. 42 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: So, I have a list of questions. I'm gonna try 43 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: hard not to look at it once. 44 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: We'll see as a as an aging podcaster, I feel 45 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 4: your feel your pain, I feel your goals. 46 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: So Chris has a podcast, everybody. It's coming very soon. 47 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: Chris tomin An of it is. 48 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 4: It's gonna be called Shred with Shifty, And it's a 49 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 4: little bit of a departure from from. 50 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: What I've been doing all these years on walking the floor. 51 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: Uh. 52 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 4: It's very specifically guitar focused and even more specifically lead 53 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 4: guitar focused. 54 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: So I heard about this idea. 55 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: We talked I don't know, a year and a half 56 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: ago or something like that, and you know, I make podcasts, 57 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: I produce them, So we were chatting about this idea 58 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: and it was one of those things that just hit 59 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: me immediately as a fan of music, as like, shit, man, 60 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: I want this in my life. I want to see 61 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: this podcast. Has to want to hear this podcast. 62 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Me too. 63 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: There's a video component. 64 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: Let's get specific, tell everybody what it is, because it's 65 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: really fucking exciting. 66 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: Well, it's you know, sometimes you have like the most 67 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: obvious idea and you're like, wait, why doesn't that exist? 68 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: And that's kind of what this show is. And you 69 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: mentioned the video component. The video component is kind of 70 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 4: the most important because their most important part because it's 71 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 4: it's a it's like guitar instructional, you know, because As 72 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: a guitar player, I watch a lot of videos of 73 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 4: people explaining things like pretty. 74 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: Close to right, but there it's always a little bit wrong. 75 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: So I thought I could exhaust my rolodex here and 76 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 4: reach out to some of these people who I'm trying 77 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 4: to learn, you know, how to play their their widdy 78 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: widy parts, and see if I can get the actual 79 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 4: people to explain it to me and teach it to me, 80 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 4: and by extension, teach it to you the people. 81 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: So it's you, yes, a guitar god in your own right, Well, 82 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: let's not get care with other guitar gods. Yeah, going 83 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: through their riffs and getting the real true lesson on 84 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: how to play them. 85 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 86 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: And you know what's funny, And this really should come 87 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: as no surprise. It didn't surprise me at all, but 88 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: it is funny because that's sort of the idea, is like, 89 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: how did they really really play it? And then you 90 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 4: go and interview people and nobody. 91 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: Knows how they fucking played it, you know what I mean. 92 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: Everybody's like, I don't know that's how I played it 93 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 4: that day. I didn't. I don't play it that that 94 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: was twenty years ago. I don't play it that way now. 95 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 4: So that's been super fun too. It's sort of going 96 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: through it and watching the with the actual people, you know, 97 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 4: kind of stumble through it and have to figure it 98 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: out too. It's an interesting thing because unlike a normal 99 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 4: podcast where it requires nothing of your guest except to 100 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: show up and answer questions. Yeah, that has been an 101 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 4: interesting part of this whole process getting people to do it. 102 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: And initially people are like, oh, interview, sure, and then 103 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, well. 104 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. You have to go back and relearn 105 00:04:59,120 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: your guitar song. 106 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 4: People like, oh, wait a minute, but I've gotten a really, 107 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 4: really good there's gonna be sixteen full interviews for this 108 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 4: first season and we've already banked eleven of them, and the. 109 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Lineup so far as is just like exceeds. 110 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 4: My initial expectations. So you know, you want me to 111 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 4: tell them who's Oh yeah, you know, with with any 112 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: of these things, you have like your your master dream 113 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: list of the people that you want to interview. 114 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: But as I'm sure you. 115 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 4: Know, it's not that easy. You got to get them 116 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 4: to agree to do it. 117 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: Right, right right, and learn their solo again. 118 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 119 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 4: So I have a really big, long list of people 120 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 4: that I want to get to, But let me read 121 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 4: you the names that I've got so far. In the 122 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: can I've got Alex Lifson from Rush explaining Limelight, which 123 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 4: just beautiful, Rivers Cuomo from Weezer, Charlie Starr from BlackBerry Smoke, 124 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 4: My good buddy, Charlie Lindsey l who's like a rat 125 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: shredder down in Nashville by way of Canada. Ritchie sam Bora, Yeah, 126 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 4: does want of Dead or Alive? That was fun. Nile 127 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 4: Rogers wo and Nile Rodgers was an interesting one because 128 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 4: Nile's not really known for his lead guitar work, so 129 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: we didn't really we got into that a little bit, 130 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 4: but it's more him sort of explaining because you know, 131 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 4: he's known as like writing these anthems that we all 132 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 4: a producing and and and as as far as his 133 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 4: guitar playing, it's like really cool. 134 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: Did he go get versions of stuff? 135 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: Did he go through a specific song? 136 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did. 137 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: I'm coming out Diana Ross Yeah, which has the guitar 138 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: playing is great, and he was just he was the 139 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 4: coolest man. 140 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: He was amazing. 141 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: Blake Schwarzenbach from Jawbreaker, also not a traditional lead guitar player, 142 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 4: which was fun because I didn't want it to just 143 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 4: be I don't want the show to be pigeonholed in 144 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 4: any one genre or even anyone, you know, specific guitar 145 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 4: style or anything. And I wanted to look at some 146 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 4: folks like Blake Schwarzenbach, who who. 147 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: Played kind of unorthodox. 148 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 4: You know, there's like, you know, you could kind of 149 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: think of them as guitar solo sections, but it's not 150 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: really that, you know, it's almost like an additional part. 151 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: But then we get back to the rippage with Mike 152 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: McCready from Pearl Jam. Yeah, oh yeah, John Osborne from 153 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 4: the Brothers Osborne, who if you don't know The Brothers Osborne, 154 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: John Osborne is about the best guitar player out there 155 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 4: in the world today. 156 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: I just love the way he plays. 157 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: He plays with you with some of your solo stuff too. 158 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: Well. 159 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: We wrote a song together for many a solo record, 160 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 4: the first one that we put out called black Top 161 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: White Lines. 162 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, although yeah, I. 163 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 4: Should have had him play on it. 164 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: It's just me. 165 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: Brent Mason, who is again a Nashville legend session player 166 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 4: who you may not know his name, but you definitely 167 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 4: if you listen to country music, especially country music from 168 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 4: like nineties and two thousands. You've heard him all over 169 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: the place, you know, he's he's a huge influence to 170 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 4: a lot of other folks. And then just the other 171 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: day of the day before we left for tour, I 172 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: interviewed Brad Paisley, which is absolutely incredible too. 173 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: So that's that's who we have in the can right now. 174 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: We have. 175 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: To do. That's like eleven people we have to do 176 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: find another five, and we've already got confirmations from like 177 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 4: another ten, so you know, probably have to wait until 178 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 4: the second season or whatever to get them all done. 179 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: But I mean, there's just like a never ending list 180 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: of guitar rippers out there to get you. 181 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: I love that. So this is like a utility as well. 182 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: It's like a tool that I imagine you wish you 183 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: had when you were a kid. 184 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's funny because grown up, I took 185 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 4: a lot of guitar lessons, you know, early on, but 186 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 4: I never was one of those players that really learned. 187 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: Stuff exactly like the record. 188 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 4: I wouldn't even have known how or what you know 189 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: what I mean, you didn't have YouTube and all that stuff. 190 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 4: You didn't have things to slow down the track but 191 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 4: keeping in pitch and all that sort of thing. So 192 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 4: I really started kind of getting into that more later, 193 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: like much later, Like when I started playing, I saw 194 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 4: somebody at a Chevy Metal shirt or hat or something 195 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 4: out there. Yeah, when I started playing with Chevy Metal, 196 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 4: and I had to and I had to sit down 197 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 4: and really try to figure out, like, well, how does. 198 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: Eddie van Halen play that? 199 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 4: You know? And then that's when I kind of got 200 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 4: turned on to like there's eight million people explaining how 201 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 4: to do the guitar solo from Panama online, but none 202 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 4: of them are actually right, you know, so you just 203 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 4: kind of like take a bit from here and a 204 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: bit from there. 205 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: And yeah, well that's the nature of how these solos 206 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: are done in the studio too. 207 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: A lot of times they're comped. 208 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: It's like you run through the solo five or six 209 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: times and then it's actually edited together and that goes 210 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: back that's what I do. Thing with technology that's sort 211 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 2: of since they've been splitting tape big time. So as 212 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: a kid, you never sat down in your room with 213 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: your headphones and dropped the needle and learned smoke on 214 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: the water, Like like, what was the first song you 215 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: actually learned how to play on guitar. 216 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 1: There wasn't yours. There was the well right, yeah, No. 217 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 4: The first thing I ever learned on guitar, I mean 218 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: my first good our teacher when I was eleven, and 219 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 4: I'm so lucky I had a great guitar teacher starting out, 220 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 4: because he taught me all the cowboy chords, you know, 221 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,119 Speaker 4: and he taught me like a you know, pentatonic scale. 222 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 4: And once I got through those couple of lessons, he 223 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 4: got me a Beatles songbook Beatles and I still haven't 224 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 4: it's called like Beatles Songbook for Beginners or something like that, 225 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: so it's all really kind of like simplified. 226 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: Versions of Beatles songs. 227 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 4: And the first one I ever learned was Hey Judeo, 228 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 4: which I still pretty much know the chorse and you 229 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: don't realize that when you're learning Beatles songs, but you're 230 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 4: you're just accidentally learning theories, yeah, and how chords flow 231 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 4: into each other and all that stuff. 232 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's amazing. 233 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 4: I remember when I joined New Us for an Am, 234 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: which is the band I was in before before Food Fighters, 235 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 4: the singer Tony was also played guitar and he goes 236 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 4: like man no one and our band's ever played like 237 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 4: full chords like that, because I was like, not just 238 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: playing the power chord, play all the you know, the 239 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: real shapes. 240 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: You know, sacrilegs and punk rock, and I totally. 241 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: I was in like, you know, like power chord land, 242 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: trying to play like you know, seven chords and all 243 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 4: that kind of stuff, which I think might have been 244 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: his way of saying, like, can you stop doing that? 245 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: So let's talk about that. 246 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: We're on the Tivoli Local stage here at Boston Calling, 247 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: and you and I both come from different scenes, but 248 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: both the sort of punk and hardcore DIY scenes here 249 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: on the West coast. I'm on the East coast. What 250 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: did you learn from your local scene growing up? What 251 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 2: are some of those lessons that you still carry today. 252 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 4: My local scene in Santa Barbara, California, when I grew 253 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 4: up was fantastic. And but at that time, you know, 254 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 4: at that age when I first started really playing in 255 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: bands a lot, I thought it was like Nowheresville, you know. 256 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: What I mean, I just like, oh God, I hate 257 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: this place. 258 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 4: I just want to get down to La where there's 259 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 4: like poison and guns and Roses are playing and it's cool. 260 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: And blah and all that sort of thing. 261 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: And but what I didn't realize was the beauty of 262 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 4: where I lived was was like just far enough away 263 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: from any kind of major metropolitan area that it was 264 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: all just sort. 265 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: Of homespun, home cooked version of other stuff. Plus we 266 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,479 Speaker 1: had a big college. Yeah, so there was always. 267 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 4: An influx of you know, students out there with their 268 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 4: weird records and stuff that you'd go to parties and 269 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 4: get turned onto all kinds of like weird indie rock 270 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: and punk rock and stuff that there wasn't really you know, 271 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 4: it wasn't in my record collection at home. But but yeah, 272 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing was we all just played 273 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 4: all the time. 274 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean it was all the time. 275 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 4: You were in two, three, four bands at any given 276 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 4: time and just gigging every weekend and playing keg parties and. 277 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: Amazing and uh and doing that whole thing. Yeah, it 278 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: was the greatest. 279 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 3: You started. You said you were eleven, Is that right? 280 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 281 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: Eleven? 282 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: So are you You know? I played guitar. I've grown 283 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: up with guitar players. Has been around in my whole life, 284 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: and there's I'm not the type of guitar player that 285 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: I in many ways that you are, But I want 286 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: to get specific. I know guys who when they're on 287 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: the road, that guitar goes with them everywhere. 288 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: Are you that guy? Do you play? How much do 289 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: you play off of stage? 290 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: Do you bring a guitar like I read that Kirk 291 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: Hammett brings that Peter Green less Paul with him, like 292 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: into every bed that he sleeps in on the road. 293 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: You know, are you that level of obsessed or do 294 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: you put it down and come back to it? 295 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm that level of obsessed in a sense. 296 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 4: I don't bring a nineteen fifty nine, you know, vintage 297 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: Less Paul that once belonged to Peter Green. I bring 298 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 4: my brand new, you know, made out of like plywood, 299 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 4: Fender Acousta Sonic, which is the best, you know, hotel 300 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 4: room guitar of all time. 301 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: But no, I always bring a guitar with me and 302 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: pretty much always have. 303 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 4: And yeah, like you know, we spend so much time 304 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 4: on the road, and you spend a lot of time 305 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: in hotel rooms just wood shedding and noodling around. And 306 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: that's where I wound up writing a lot of songs 307 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 4: and working on stuff. And then especially when you're like 308 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 4: where we are, right now now, like at the front 309 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: end of going out on the road and with a 310 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 4: new album and a bunch of new songs and all 311 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 4: this stuff, I'll be sitting in my room just trying 312 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 4: to remember parts, keeping it in my hands. 313 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 314 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's almost like an athlete. You have 315 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: to keep your body and your muscle memory. 316 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, speed right. I went. 317 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 4: I went on a spring break vacation trip with my 318 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 4: family recently. Where we went we were down in Costa 319 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: Rica for about a week, just surfing and hanging around, 320 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: and it was weird not having a guitar. Yeah, you know, 321 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: I never I pretty much played just all the time. Well, 322 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 4: I'm sitting home and watching TV. I'm annoying my wife 323 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 4: around on guitar. 324 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: You know. 325 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: I knew that. 326 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: I knew that was you staring at the TV. I 327 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: heard that's how John Bryan learned how to write songs. 328 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: He just as a kid played in front of the 329 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: television all the time, and it all kind of seeps 330 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: in that. 331 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: That'd be another good guy for the new show. 332 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: Who were the sort of like dream interviews for you? 333 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 4: Oh god, there's so many, I mean, all of any 334 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 4: classic rock you know, A chief Blackmore. 335 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: Would be amazing. Jimmy Page would be amazing. 336 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: Brian May you know all the folks that I listened 337 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 4: to grown up, especially in that in that you know, 338 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: who is thus far completely underrepresented is like eighties heavy 339 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 4: metal guitar player. 340 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: I haven't. 341 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 4: I've reached out to a bunch of those dudes, but 342 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 4: I haven't landed one yet. 343 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: It's a little weird. I thought, like, I thought that 344 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: that would be the easiest. You know, there's just that's 345 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: that's like the guitar hero era. I thought that would 346 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: be like pretty simple to lamb. But I haven't haven't 347 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: landed any of them yet. 348 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: Eddie's dead. Who's the guy? Well, I mean, we'll tweet 349 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: at him, we'll get a pet. 350 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: You can't get Eddie Van and you can't get Randy Rose. 351 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: And those were probably my top two. But you know, 352 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: Inbay Mountainstein would be great. Jakie Lee would be great, 353 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: Warren d. Martini, John Sykes, you get a little later. 354 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: Slash I would really like it. And you know I'm 355 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 4: bugging his Believe you me, I'm bugging Slash as publicist. 356 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: It seems like every other week. 357 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a bunch of them. I mean, you know, 358 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 4: any of those folks that I grew up listening to, 359 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 4: I would love And you know, although I'm trying to 360 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 4: not get pigeonholed in anyone genre, and we certainly like 361 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 4: rock and country music are the ones that I know 362 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 4: the most, and country music has always embraced ripping guitar playing. 363 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of those folks that I want 364 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 4: to get to. And then people that I just don't know. 365 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 4: I don't know who like the go to pop guitar 366 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 4: player is, maybe you do, Maybe send somebody mine, I 367 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 4: don't know. 368 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: You know, who do you guys want to hear? Yeah? 369 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: Who do you guys want to hear? 370 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: You want to hear? Who do you want to hear? 371 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: Chris interview for guitar players. 372 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: Who I pitched her pitch? 373 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: Well, not her herself, but her publicist. Yeah, they are 374 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 4: aware of it. John Mayer, I think we pitched him too. Yeah, 375 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: that'd be great. Tom Morello, that'd be great. The Edge, 376 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 4: I think we pitched the Edge, not And again when 377 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: I say pitched that person, that person doesn't know who 378 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: the fuck I am and has never heard of my show. 379 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: So it's not like that. But you know, it's their 380 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 4: their representatives. That's the biz kids. You got to go 381 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 4: through the representatives. And so I think, honestly, the majority 382 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 4: of people that I've interviewed for this thing are people 383 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 4: whose phone number I have, because I could bypass that 384 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: whole like. 385 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: The publicists going, so, how when's this coming out? It's 386 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: a pod what's a podcast? 387 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: It's a what is it a podcaster? Or video show? 388 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 4: Can you send me a link? Like it doesn't exist yet? 389 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: Well, fuck you. That has been honestly, that has been 390 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: one of. 391 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 4: The funnest parts of this because when I started walking 392 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 4: the floor, you know, I'd never interviewed anybody. 393 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: Podcasting was pretty new. 394 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 4: I didn't know anybody who's mostly focused on like Americana 395 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 4: and country music, and I didn't know anybody in that world, 396 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 4: so I didn't have any context. So it took me 397 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: a couple of years to get to know, you know, 398 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 4: the publicists that work a lot, and eventually I developed 399 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 4: relationships and then. 400 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: It got a lot easier to book people. 401 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 4: And then you know, you get into the thing where 402 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 4: you're getting pitched more than you can actually do, which 403 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 4: is great. With this, it's it's fricking starting over because 404 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 4: there is no link you can send them. There's no website, 405 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 4: there's no you know. It's just like, Hey, I've got 406 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 4: this kooky idea, and guess what. Your client has to 407 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: do a bunch of homework before they come on, and 408 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 4: it's gonna be on video, so they have to worry 409 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 4: about how they look, and they need an AMP and 410 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: a guitar and they need a digit of the audio 411 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 4: interface and blob blah blah. 412 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: You know. 413 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's that part of it has been super fun, 414 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 4: just starting over. 415 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: So who do we say the edge? Tom Morello, John 416 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: Mayer her that's the list. 417 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 4: But those are all people on my list. Come on, people, 418 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 4: let's come up with some folks. I'm not thinking of 419 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 4: Don Daniel Donado, who said that he's on the list. 420 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 4: I already talked to him, booked Mick marrs on the list, 421 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: pitched him. 422 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: Who who oh wow, that's a good one. John is 423 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: he a lead guitar player? 424 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, John Sante John for Schante is on 425 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 4: the list. 426 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: Haven't heard back. John. 427 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 4: If you're watch, if you're out there in the crowd, 428 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 4: if you're looking at this on Instagram, give me a ring, buddy. 429 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: Yes, there we go. 430 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes, uh yet. Actually I asked Pat 431 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 4: the other day for a new nose number. I haven't 432 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 4: pitched him yet, but for sure local guy. 433 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got Rivers. Rivers graduated from Harvard over here. 434 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: All right? 435 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, So okay, So you've played with a bunch of 436 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: You've met a bunch of these dudes, You've been on 437 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: stage with a bunch of these dudes. I gotta I 438 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 2: know you a little bit, and I know you're a 439 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: fucking guitar freak. 440 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: Like you're a fan, right you must. 441 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: How do you control the fan side of you and 442 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: just maintain the cool professional size. 443 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: It's really hard. 444 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if I always control it, man, 445 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 4: Sometimes it just gets the vast yea. 446 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: Anyone you can recall being on stage with where you've 447 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: just been, Like, I talked to a guy the other 448 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 2: night who told me he was on stage with Springsteen 449 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: once when he was a kid, a fluke thing, and 450 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: he literally went up to his zamp and he turned 451 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: it down so he could just listen to the b us. 452 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 453 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 4: Oh man, There's been so many over the years, it's 454 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 4: it's hard to even pick. When Mick Jagger was a 455 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 4: huge one, you know when we got to back him up. Yeah, 456 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 4: that was like just you know, it doesn't get much 457 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 4: better than that. 458 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: You find yourself just watching more than you're you're trying 459 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: to remember the Rift of Brown Sugar. 460 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 3: Would you remember what song you did? 461 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: Oh? We did? What did we did? 462 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: We did I think Mother's Little Helper and then we 463 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 4: did that, we did like part of that and then 464 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 4: it's only rock and roll. 465 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: Nice. 466 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, very cool, Yeah, which is great. 467 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 4: Very That would have the only way that would have 468 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 4: been cooler is if Keith was there. 469 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 470 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 4: Well yeah, I never met Keith Richard. He'd be he'd 471 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: be good for the show. Yeah, fantastic, as would Mick Taylor. 472 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: Or Ron Wood or any of those cats. 473 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 4: Man, I'm that Stones is kind of like for me, 474 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 4: that's the tippy top, that's the apex. 475 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll make it happen. We're gonna make it happen. 476 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: That's right. 477 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: We're trying to do that. 478 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 4: If any of you folks out there know Keith Richards, 479 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 4: give my number. 480 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 3: I think it's parole officers somewhere. Figure that out. 481 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: So you have you have kids, one they play playing music, 482 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: but once once again re engaged in guitar playing yeah, 483 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 2: tell us, and he's a teenager. Tell us, tell us 484 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: what it's like from your perspective, as you know, you're 485 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: in the freaking Foo fighters watching your kid learn. 486 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 3: How to play guitar. What's he like? 487 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 4: It's been really fun because we made all our kids 488 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: take piano and guitar lessons when they were real young, 489 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 4: and none of them really dug it, and especially my. 490 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: Youngest like he was so he just I mean, he's 491 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: just me. 492 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 4: He hates taking like at that age, he hates taking 493 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 4: lessons and he hates he basically hates teachers. 494 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: Right of all stypes. 495 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 4: And we had this guy that was the sweetest dude, 496 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 4: this guy Nick, that would come to our house and 497 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 4: give my kids guitar lessons like in the in the 498 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 4: in the dining room and he would come over and 499 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 4: he's just the sweetest guy, always smiling, bringing his little 500 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 4: like gigbag acoustic guitar and be like a man. 501 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: It's time for your guitar lesson. And he'd be upstairs 502 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: and he'd be like, I hate that guy. I'm not 503 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: coming down, oh no. 504 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 4: And so that didn't last too long and he drifted 505 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 4: away from it, but he's recently picked it. 506 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: Back up on his own accord. 507 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, And honestly, that's kind of part of the inspiration 508 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 4: this whole thing. He he watches a bunch of people 509 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 4: on YouTube explain how to play things, and then he'll 510 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 4: learn it, and then he'll quiz me on it, and 511 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 4: then I'll have to go figure it out. But like, 512 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 4: you know, I interviewed Blake from Jawbreaker, and he explained 513 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 4: how to play accident Prone, which is, like, you know, 514 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 4: one of my favorite Jobreaker songs, and the reason I 515 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 4: wanted to do that song and part of the reason, 516 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I love Blake and I love Jobbreaker, but 517 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 4: part of the reasons because my son's obsessed with Jawbreaker 518 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 4: and he had asked me to figure out how to 519 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 4: play accident Prone and show him, and we had watched 520 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 4: somebody online explain it, you know, pretty close to right, 521 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 4: but I knew it wasn't quite right, So I was like, 522 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 4: and Blake's a lefty, and you know, it's it's just cool, 523 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 4: you know, So yeah, watching watching my son go down. 524 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: That road is fun. 525 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, And he doesn't have any of my cultural baggage 526 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: with anything, so he'll like listen to old records from 527 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 4: the wrong period like, I'm like, no, you don't listen 528 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 4: to tears are falling. 529 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: You listen to strutter, you. 530 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: Know, and some of that kind of about it. I 531 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 4: just keep my mouth shut, you know what I mean. 532 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 4: He'll get to it, He'll figure it. 533 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll get to it, all right. 534 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: Shred with Shifty videos on Volume dot com. 535 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 4: Yes, Volume dot com. Yes, I don't know if we 536 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 4: mentioned them yet. Video will live on Volume dot Com 537 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 4: and then there's gonna be a podcast version of it. 538 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: But really you're gonna want to and I interview. 539 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 4: The folks too a bit in there, and then we 540 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 4: get into the weeds with guitar stuff, and you're gonna 541 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 4: want to watch their hands. 542 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: People. It's the most important part. 543 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: This guy's bringing you a new utility. Everyone can be 544 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 2: a guitar player. Chris shiftlet everybody. 545 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, Boston, see you later a tonight. 546 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 3: All right, disc goes. 547 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: That was my conversation with food Fighters Chris Shifftlett. I 548 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: hope you dug it. You can search for Chris's new 549 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 2: podcasts wherever podcasts are available, search Shred with Shifty and 550 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 2: be sure to subscribe and follow. The trailer is available 551 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: now and the season launches on June twenty second. Video 552 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 2: versions of the pod will be available exclusively on Volume 553 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 2: dot com. All right, that's it for me. I've got 554 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 2: a traditional afterparty episode coming your way next Thursday, per usual, 555 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: with your voicemails and text. Looking forward to hearing from 556 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: you guys. Next up in Disgrace Slam Little Kim look out. 557 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: All right, rock Rolla, I'm out of here.