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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale LOLLI he is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: This is our final show Matt, before the Steelers play

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Speaker 3: their initial football game of the twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 2: It is finally, finally.

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Speaker 4: Here upon us. Yeah, one more drive and then we're

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Speaker 4: gonna be watching live Steelers Niners. Great opponent two at

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Speaker 4: home home opener, great situation. Saw a game last night,

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Speaker 4: back here on Monday to break it all down. I'm

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Speaker 4: pretty psyched.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, okay, we're there, We're you know, we're

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Speaker 3: at the finish line.

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Speaker 2: It's it's here finally. I mean, if I.

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Speaker 3: Feel like this offseason lasted, well, it felt like it

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Speaker 3: was I don't know, twelve months.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was it was just really long.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the super Bowl seems like a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: It really does like we've done away the shows and

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Speaker 2: we've done it, you know.

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Speaker 3: And maybe it's because we did more shows this offseason

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Speaker 3: than ever before.

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Speaker 2: True, true, But I mean I just you.

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Speaker 3: Know, you keep grinding, grinding, grinding, and now we finally

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Speaker 3: get here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I want to react to something as opposed to, oh,

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Speaker 4: this free agent addition.

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Speaker 2: Should we're not guessing anymore, right, I like that pick up.

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Speaker 4: It should do this. I hope it does that, you know,

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Speaker 4: or maybe the draft will go this way or preseason

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Speaker 4: looks good, but it's not quite the same, you know.

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Speaker 4: So No, I am very excited about it. And it's

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Speaker 4: a great opponent. It's a it's a great game to

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Speaker 4: talk about, and you know, the whole week's pretty pretty

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Speaker 4: exciting speaking of.

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Speaker 2: That butt stuff.

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Speaker 3: So Mike Tarico last night after that, as the as

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Speaker 3: the game ends, the Detroit Lions beat the San Francisco

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers.

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Speaker 4: That wasn't the forty nine ers though the.

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Speaker 2: Chief I'm sorry, correct forty or on the brain, I

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Speaker 2: got it, he says.

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Speaker 3: As there as they're signing off, you know, this victory

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Speaker 3: will have an asterix on it for the for the

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Speaker 4: No, it won't, No, it won't. It means exactly the same.

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Speaker 3: It's no different than if you beat them in week

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Speaker 3: twelve with and guys are hurt.

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Speaker 2: There's no difference.

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Speaker 4: Was there an asterix when the I think it was

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Speaker 4: the Saints went to Denver during COVID and they didn't

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Speaker 4: have a quarterback and nobody cares one bit. No one

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Speaker 4: looks back at that game. You like that, one doesn't quite.

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Speaker 3: That's like the people who say that the Steelers' Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl championships in two thousand and five, in two thousand

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Speaker 3: and eight, they have an asterix on them because they

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Speaker 3: didn't have to go through.

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Speaker 2: New England to get to those to win those.

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Speaker 4: That's great.

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Speaker 2: I don't care who you beat.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't make one bit of difference. I mean, did

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Speaker 4: anyone hold it against the Eagles. And in terms of

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Speaker 4: the Niners running out of quarterbacks in the NFC Championship game,

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's not an asterix. No, it's a rough game.

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Speaker 4: You deal with a lot of stuff, and Kansas City

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Speaker 4: was down to superstars, and hey, nobody cares. Nobody has

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Speaker 4: sympathy for you in that.

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin said, you know, nobody wants to hear about

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Speaker 3: your problems. And half of the people out half the

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Speaker 3: people don't want.

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Speaker 2: To hear a bunch of problems. The other half are

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Speaker 4: Have the exactly exactly. I mean, if Nick Bosa was

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Speaker 4: still unsigned, we all be like.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's yeah, they win, but Bosa wasn't there,

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Speaker 4: so it doesn't really it's not the same happy he's there.

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Speaker 4: You know. It's just it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I don't get that mentality.

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Speaker 4: Like you've never watched this game.

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Speaker 2: You plays seventeen of these things.

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Speaker 3: Over the course of those seventeen games, it's the same

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Speaker 3: thing like a few years ago, and the Steelers, well

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Speaker 3: they every.

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Speaker 2: You know, they played a bunch of backup quarterbacks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's kind of the way this game goes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people played a lot of backup

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks last year. You know. Yeah, it's it's one of

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Speaker 4: the beauties of the NFL because there are so few

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Speaker 4: games no one goes. Boy, the Astros beat the Dodgers,

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Speaker 4: but their star left fielder took the day off was

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Speaker 4: most important. Well who cares, you know, it's the way

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Speaker 4: it goes. Nobody plays every snap, every game whatever. So

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Speaker 4: good win for the Lions.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I mean that it's a great way for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, long week now too. You know, I never give

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Speaker 2: And it's really difficult to win that game.

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Speaker 3: It is that being said, people that say that the

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Speaker 3: Kansas City you can't go into.

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Speaker 2: You have to go into Kansas City and just outscore Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: No you don't, No, you don't.

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Speaker 2: Now would they have scored more if they had Kelsey,

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Speaker 2: Yeah they would, of course, They'd probably at least had

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Speaker 2: an extra touchdown in that game. Probably, But the rest

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Speaker 2: of those guys are just guys.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Chiefs d played really well. That was

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Speaker 4: the underreported story is they kept that thing closer than

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Speaker 4: it could have been. Even Chiefs had a lot of

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Speaker 4: issues on that given day. I mean, I thought their

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Speaker 4: wide receivers were horrendous.

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Speaker 2: And they didn't run the ball.

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Speaker 4: They didn't run the ball particularly well. Mahomes was fine.

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Speaker 2: Their offensive lines in issue.

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Speaker 4: Tackles were struggling, to say the least.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so if if the officials in that game

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Speaker 2: Mon Taylor and the right not just him, but if

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Speaker 2: you they had a flying v out, yeah, yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: not supposed to be able to do that. The tackle's

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Speaker 2: They were both lined up two yards behind that like.

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Speaker 4: Andy's moving a little before the SNA and he was

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Speaker 4: moving a little before the snap. That being said, everyone

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Speaker 4: of a tell. I mean, whole run passing, he's basically

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Speaker 4: just giving it away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they just didn't run the ball.

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Speaker 4: They didn't run the ball.

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Speaker 3: I mean they had eight carries from from Pacheco and

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Speaker 4: And that was it. And I think mahone they put

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Speaker 2: The homes without any receivers.

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Speaker 4: And he played fine. I mean he's a really good

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Speaker 4: I mean the drops were obvious, but I thought the

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Speaker 4: I don't know their playbook like the back of my hand.

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Speaker 4: And you never see this. They had a dozen guys

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Speaker 4: they're just searching, you know, like I hope one of

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Speaker 4: you guys steps up, and no one really did. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and no one, and no one's crying for the chiefs, folks.

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Speaker 3: Well this also it also reminded me Met of the

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Speaker 3: People a couple of years ago and Ben Roethlisberger missed

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Speaker 3: a game and the Steelers didn't find out.

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Speaker 2: Until Saturday night. Oh yeah, against the Lions.

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Speaker 3: It happened to be the same team that he was

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Speaker 3: then you have to put you know, Mason Rudolph in there.

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Speaker 3: Rudolph finds out less than twenty four hours before the

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Speaker 3: and people were killing Mason.

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Speaker 2: Well they they tied the Lions in that game.

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Speaker 4: This is what happens when when your game plan gets

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Speaker 4: You're adjusting on the fly. You got to be light

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Speaker 4: least they had a day or two of Kelsey's probably

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Speaker 2: They knew one way or the other. I mean he

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Speaker 4: What if we don't have Travis, especially for week one too.

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Speaker 4: I mean Andy Reid's been thinking about that opponent for

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Speaker 4: three months. Yeah, I mean, boy, I can get Kelsey

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Speaker 4: on this crosser and attack those linebackers. But whatever it is,

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Speaker 4: you know, like, oh, that's all that whole part of

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Speaker 4: the playbook ripped out. Throw at the fire, you know,

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Speaker 4: and that's what happens. I mean, it's even worse to

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Speaker 2: Yep. And that's the way it goes in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: And again, if you if you don't play your best,

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Speaker 3: I don't care what team you are, you're going to lose.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you are, well, you're gonna have a.

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Speaker 2: Good chance to learn in trouble. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Brings me to depth though, you know. I mean I

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Speaker 4: think the Steeler depth as it stands right now, we

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Speaker 4: think looks really, really good. And for two reasons though,

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Speaker 4: is it's a long season. Everyone's gonna deal with such things.

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Speaker 4: I mean we all know that. But just even watching

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Speaker 4: that game, and I promise you, if people pay attention

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Speaker 4: in Week one, there's be a lot of tired football

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Speaker 4: players in the fourth quarters. You know, there was a

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Speaker 3: That's why I thought Detroit did a good job of

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Speaker 3: wasn't it wasn't you know, ten yards at a time

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Speaker 3: yards and then he had that touchdown running guys are

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Speaker 3: he's running through it like that's what happens.

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Speaker 4: That's what happens. And made me think of Steelers niners too,

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Speaker 4: like you keep bringing nausey and Warren, but mostly nausey

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Speaker 4: over and over and over. It might not look sexy

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Speaker 4: more on pickets plate these early games, man, that that

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Speaker 4: goes a long way. Plus, I think on the other

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Speaker 4: five more plays in the second quarter than you usually do.

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Speaker 4: You know, get a lot of bodies out there on.

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Speaker 3: Sunday speaking in which the Steelers injury report and the

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Speaker 3: thirty nine Ers injury are both out well, their practice

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Speaker 3: reporters out there. They haven't made designations yet, gotcha. But

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Speaker 3: Cam Hayward a full go today, missed yesterday's practice Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: it was it was a veteran's day off.

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Speaker 3: They listened as stomach. Now, some people took stomach to

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Speaker 3: But he was back as a full participant today. Concern Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, two real key players. So if Kittle goes, of

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Speaker 4: But if he's not doing a get stuff.

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Speaker 3: How much that turns into being ready to go? You know,

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Speaker 4: I guess he practiced to the side. He wasn't like

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Speaker 4: and I bet he plays a lot.

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Speaker 4: Like I bet he plays the first snap of the

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Speaker 4: That exactly what I said to Yeah, I thought like

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Speaker 3: So, I mean the Steelers are gonna have to deal

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you just can't worry again. You don't

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Speaker 3: You just plan for the opponents and deal with that.

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Speaker 3: It is, it is what it is in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's got good guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and if he gets gassed and he's not in there,

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Speaker 2: With the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: They you know, they've worked on one of the big

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Speaker 4: they probably they don't allow big runs period, at least

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Speaker 3: And you want to you want to grind, you want

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Speaker 4: Those fighting Washington or friarmooth and then run game. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Right, that's that's what you know.

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Speaker 4: So like, I don't think Hardgrave played hardly any snaps

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to make this a battle of attrition

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's what I mean. Just keep rotating guys in,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think people overlook that in terms of you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I want the big guy who's a grinder.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, because they're the physicality That stuff matters.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: You know, you always falling forward, don't get knocked backwards.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's certainly a nausey trade.

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Speaker 3: If it's a one yard game, get two because you

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's not block rate, but fight for that extra

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Speaker 2: Yeah, punishment is the key there.

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Speaker 3: You know, we saw the Steelers down the stretch last

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Speaker 4: So they did it and it was successful. I mean,

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Speaker 2: That goes back to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that goes back to the conversation and I have

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Speaker 2: Who we are. Yes, what we want edy is a

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Speaker 4: And that's what the Niners are like the best in

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Speaker 2: You gotta have the bread and butter. And that was

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Speaker 4: Now they do, and I don't think it's gone away.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's a different year, it's different people. Times change,

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Speaker 4: But I don't think they're going to rip off eighty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if we're sitting here on Monday, the Steelers, let's

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Speaker 3: I think he's Yeah, Yeah, I mean I wrote my

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Speaker 4: Might play the most porter, might play the most snaps.

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Speaker 3: He's familiar with that defense.

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Speaker 4: Great slot corner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't and go a little too.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you're running again, if if the running

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they's moving the change he may have if it's

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Speaker 3: he might have five catches for thirty seven yards, but

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Speaker 3: if four of them are for first downs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's huge. The success rate will be high. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that type of thing. I can see his season going

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Speaker 4: that way too, Like, yeah, you know, I'm on your

448
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Speaker 4: fantasy team. He's not going to light it up. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't know that it'll be highlight reel after highlight reel,

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Speaker 4: but effective professional move the chains has a real role.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially in a game like this where I expect

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Speaker 3: Friarmouth to be a little more quiet against that those players,

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Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, because he's kind of that guy to

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Speaker 3: move the chain type guy. Well, now you have two

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Speaker 3: of those guys in the middle of the field, that

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Speaker 3: safe option, just keep moving.

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Speaker 4: The child and big body. Yeah, I could see that too.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that Washington is yet that receiver. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you gonna establish yourself, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: But I do think this, his physicality and size is

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Speaker 4: why I brought him up, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's gonna definitely play a factor here.

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Speaker 3: Guys that side, he's just they're they're freaking. He's just

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Speaker 3: he's a unicorn.

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Speaker 4: He's just different. I mean, yeah, even these freaks on

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Speaker 4: the other side or in the league don't play against

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Speaker 4: many people like him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean as good as Bosa is, how many

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Speaker 3: times does he line up with a tight end on

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Speaker 3: his size who's actually bigger than him?

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Speaker 4: Good point, they're mostly they're friar moose sort of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're a two hundred and fifty pound guy, that

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Speaker 3: better receiver. He can use his strength and toss him

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Speaker 3: out of way. He's not gonna toss darn On Washington

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Speaker 3: out of the way.

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Speaker 4: It's just pure strength. Yeah, right, I think Washington's an

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Speaker 4: interesting guy to watch. I bet He's on Bosa's side

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Speaker 4: a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think. So we're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 3: He has Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 3: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be

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Speaker 3: back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and GOLDNR.

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson and Matt We've talked about maybe

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Speaker 3: an unsung hero in the previous segment for the Steelers offense. Defensively,

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Speaker 3: I'm looking right now at the forty nine Ers game

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs last year against Dallas, and I bring

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Speaker 3: that one up because if you look at it, when

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Speaker 3: party began starting, he faces Tampa Bay, Seattle, Washington, Las Vegas, Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Not a murderer's row of defensive front. Seattle's defensive front

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Speaker 3: not great.

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Speaker 4: Not great, no, not at all.

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Speaker 2: But then he played a full game against the Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: who've got some pre they have.

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Speaker 4: Some premium pass rush. Yeah, they get after it, and

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Speaker 4: I would say they're comparable to the Steelers front.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sorr.

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Speaker 4: They got step right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I look at that game.

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Speaker 3: Party was nineteen of twenty nine for two hundred and

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Speaker 3: fourteen yards, no touchdowns, no interceptions, the difference being in

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Speaker 3: that game A Dallas turned the ball over twice. The

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers won that game nineteen to twelve.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember the game. You said that was the

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Speaker 4: first playoff game.

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Speaker 2: That was their second playoff, second playoffeah, Okay, nineteen to twelve.

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Speaker 2: They were able to get it was thirty two carries

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Speaker 2: for one hundred and thirteen yards in a touchdown. N

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Speaker 2: That's what the Niners rushed for in that game against

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Speaker 2: the good defense, against a good defense. But that's I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's turning out less than three.

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Speaker 4: Yards or lessan four yards percure, winning football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, to the difference. They ended up kicking

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Speaker 2: one to three.

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Speaker 3: They had four field goals and a touchdown that was

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Speaker 3: a McCaffrey two yard rush.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if you can do something like that against yeah.

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Speaker 4: If you make it hard, make it yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: They're not a grind type of team.

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Speaker 2: They want the big plays, they want the big catcher,

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Speaker 2: big plays.

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Speaker 4: And I don't want to say they're a finesse offense.

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Speaker 4: That's not fair. I mean, like Bill Walsh used to

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Speaker 4: hate that, the West Coast is a finesse offense. We're

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Speaker 4: scoring all over you, you know. I mean, and they

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Speaker 4: are physical at the point of attack and breaking tackles

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Speaker 4: and those type of things, but they're not four yards

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Speaker 4: in a cloud of dust. Beat your face, Derek.

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Speaker 3: Henry McCaffrey's not that kind of runner. No, and really,

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Speaker 3: you know, neither is Elijah Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: Mitchell's fast. He's smaller and we don't talk about him much,

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Speaker 4: but he'll play a fair amount too.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: We talked about their other skill five guys, but he's

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Speaker 4: a very typical Shanahan put your foot in the ground

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Speaker 4: zone runner, runs really fast off and into things, and

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Speaker 4: they stay healthy. Ringe mostert's that way. You know, a

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Speaker 4: lot of those guys are speed first, get your your

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Speaker 4: shoulders parallel to the line of scrimmage, get down in

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Speaker 4: the hole, and if there's something in your way, run

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Speaker 4: into it. You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One thing I really like about this Steelers defense is

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Speaker 3: their speed up the middle.

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Speaker 4: I do too. It's funny you were kind of talking

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Speaker 4: about unsung heroes. I was gonna dig deep. I think

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Speaker 4: you're gonna asked me on the defense. I was in

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Speaker 4: a scan of my brain. I was gonna say, maybe, Neil,

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Speaker 4: we're heading that way.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I.

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Speaker 4: Was gonna go deep. But some of them does not

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Speaker 4: play a lot but has speed and physicality in the

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Speaker 4: middle of the field that you might not see a

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Speaker 4: ton from snap after snap.

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Speaker 3: But a guy like Neil, yeah, in that In that game,

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Speaker 3: Mitchell had fourteen carries for fifty one yards. Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 3: had ten for thirty five. He only had he had

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Speaker 3: six catches, but for only twenty two yards. Tackle the catch,

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Speaker 3: tackle the catch. Steelers were a good tackling defense. I

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Speaker 3: mean that was that he was their leading receiver in

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Speaker 3: that game. Six for twenty two. Wow, was the leading receiver.

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Speaker 3: Course you would take that, of course, of course.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Kittle had five for ninety five with a thirty one yarder.

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Speaker 3: That's what you can't have, you know. But other than that,

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Speaker 3: when you look at the rest of their their cat

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Speaker 3: their their long catches. McCaffrey's long catch was eight yards, okay.

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Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel was seventeen one. Jennings had two catches for

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Speaker 3: twenty six yards.

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Speaker 2: He had a twenty one yarder.

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Speaker 4: And then Brandy's aren't backbreaker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brandon Ayuke had a seventeen yarder. So if you

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Speaker 3: if you keep, if you continue to tackle the catch

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Speaker 3: with these guys and control the running game, which I

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Speaker 3: think the Steelers can do.

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Speaker 4: I think, so you're gonna have it.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna make it tough for them to score.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean some state they're thinking, you know, Dallas

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Speaker 4: versus Steelers. Dallas has a very talented defense. They got

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Speaker 4: a lot of guys people haven't heard.

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Speaker 2: Where they're weak those in the is it defensive interior?

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Speaker 4: I agree. Their linebackers aren't tremendous either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm saying even their defensive linemen they drafted.

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Speaker 4: A nose tackles round, you know, but they're not super

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Speaker 4: complex on the either. Schematically, I mean, they're pretty I

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Speaker 4: would say vanilla, but they don't throw a ton at you.

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Speaker 4: They win with execution more than they do scheme, which

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Speaker 4: I think might be smart against these guys. You know,

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Speaker 4: just kind of hold your water, tackle, don't bite on

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Speaker 4: all the nonsense, you know. I mean there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of window dressing, you know. I mean, just hold your water,

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Speaker 4: do your job. Don't have to blow things up, but

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Speaker 4: make it make them sustain long drives again.

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Speaker 3: I think that's why, you know, the Steelers went out

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Speaker 3: and added veteran players. They didn't want to have to

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Speaker 3: rely on young guys who are perhaps maybe bite on

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Speaker 3: the window dressing.

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Speaker 4: A member of interviewing Cole Holcomb at Mini Caamp. You know,

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Speaker 4: we were talking about linebackers take a while, and he's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I've been on play action every snap was my first

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Speaker 4: few years in the league, or something along his lines.

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Speaker 4: He joked about it, but I mean it does take

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Speaker 4: a while. I don't need rookie linebackers out there dealing

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Speaker 4: with Shanahan. I mean, that's not a good formula.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, you're going to see a lot of pre

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Speaker 3: snap movements. You're going to see jet sweep motion. You're

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Speaker 3: going to see those kind.

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Speaker 4: Of things and small wrinkles. Just do your job, teacher said,

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Speaker 4: than done. We're sitting here in a chair, you know,

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Speaker 4: talking into a mike. You know, we're not trying to

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Speaker 4: tackle Christiy McCaffer or Deebo Samuel. But that is a

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Speaker 4: really good example, you know of Dallas containing the offense.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're not gonna shut them out they're a

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Speaker 4: really good group. But I mean, and if you can

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Speaker 4: contain the offense and don't give them any freebies, I

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Speaker 4: think that goes along way. It's also a three to

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Speaker 4: four right right right on their edge, Micah Parsons A

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Speaker 4: lot like there is, guys, you know, right very so.

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Speaker 3: You know that defense did slow them down a little bit,

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Speaker 3: you know, Ageain nineteen. But if the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 3: score nineteen or fewer in this game, I think Steelers win.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I think so too. I think the Steelers get

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Speaker 4: to twenty. I wish I remember exactly what it was,

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Speaker 4: but I was listening to a podcast this morning. I

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Speaker 4: sawd a lot of sentences with that, and they.

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Speaker 2: Were I wonder how Mad does anything else?

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Speaker 4: Frankly, I was in the shower podcast going and I'm listening.

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Speaker 4: I forget which one it was, and they were talking

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Speaker 4: about there's just a going through the league, Steelers Niners,

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Speaker 4: let's talk about it, And they talked about an interview

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Speaker 4: they did with Shanahan. Whoever this host was saying the

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Speaker 4: last time they played the Steelers three years ago? Was

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Speaker 4: it twenty twenty or whatever? It was nineteen that Shanahan

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Speaker 4: because the Steelers played their edge guys so wide it

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Speaker 4: gave him a lot of problems. He said it after

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Speaker 4: the game that I had to re examine our outside

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Speaker 4: zone because I know after that game people are going

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Speaker 4: to start to mimic the Steeler defense and play. And

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Speaker 4: that's why when you said three four their edge guys

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Speaker 4: are a little wider than some, they're not going to

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Speaker 4: be right, certainly.

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Speaker 2: Faster, slighter, smaller guys. Just looking.

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Speaker 4: I think speed on the field in this game is

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Speaker 4: really important. Like we've talked about this a lot, like

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Speaker 4: maybe you're going to see big nickel just so I

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Speaker 4: don't have slower, heavier bodies.

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Speaker 2: Yes, one of the guys visiting the mall, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: If you look back at that game, now, San Francisco

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Speaker 3: won that game twenty four to twenty.

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Speaker 2: But San Francisco, the forty nine ers only had in

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Speaker 2: that game two and thirty nine yards. I'm sorry, I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at the wrong team there. They had four hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty six yards of total offense in that game,

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Speaker 2: but two sixty eight of it was it was passing.

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Speaker 4: So they did a decent job against a good run game.

662
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 4: And McCaffrey wasn't there. Party wasn't there. But it's the

663
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 4: same scheme.

664
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that was with the Steelers playing with

665
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph at quarterback basically, I mean he had two

666
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 3: interceptions in that game. The Steelers got Jimmy Garoppolo twice

667
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 3: intercepted him twice in that game, but it was mostered

668
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: in Matt Breida doing most of the running. Kittle had

669
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: six for fifty seven. If you come out of this

670
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: game with Kittle having six for fifty seven.

671
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Speaker 4: You'd take that, oh, without a question.

672
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel three for forty four, again, you'd take that.

673
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. So tackle just can't let those guys free, right,

674
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 4: and Shanahan does a good job. And sometimes it's a

675
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 4: fraction of a step, you know, leaning one way or

676
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: taken one false step, and that's all they need to

677
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 4: get free. So you have to be really assignment sound.

678
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 4: But again, I want a lot of Keanu Neil type

679
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: bodies in the middle of the field. Yeah, you know,

680
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 4: the guys that can hit and tackle but aren't two

681
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty pounds.

682
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Speaker 2: You know, the tackling part is the key.

683
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: You can't you know, you can't try to arm tackle

684
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: these guys talked about that yesterday. You have to get

685
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: them on the ground, and you're right, a guy like

686
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: like I like Neil. I mean, the Steelers have good tacklers,

687
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: that's what they've really you know.

688
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: Have references tout the week, but they were one of

689
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 4: the better defenses after the catch. Yeah, the opposite limiting

690
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 4: after the catch, which is a monster thing here. And

691
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 4: still you've you've ruts up one hundred times this week too.

692
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 4: If you can get party looking elsewhere besides the middle

693
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 4: of the field, that's when I think bad things can

694
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 4: happen to that. That passing game. Yeah, I don't trust

695
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: him to execute that stuff. Well.

696
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: So Patrick Peterson said on his podcast that you mentioned yesterday,

697
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: he's seen these guys a lot. Yeah, he's seen him

698
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: a lot, and he said that you know, there's some

699
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: tells there and he's he's he'll say what they are

700
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Speaker 3: after he gets his interception in this game. Yeah, And

701
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: I guess Perdy was asked about that and said, you know,

702
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: we'll see. You know, he's a really good player, but

703
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: we'll see. I think you know now that teams have

704
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: had that entire offseason to study this kid.

705
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think that's a factor too, Like.

706
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: When you're going down the stretch last year, the final

707
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: five games, I mean, was anybody really breaking down?

708
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 4: No, you know, and maybe went into the playoffs, you

709
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: start to really study him and learn a tendency or two.

710
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: But that's one team or you know, the upcoming opponent.

711
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 4: But when he gets thrown into the action, you don't

712
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 4: know much about him except you call it a scouting

713
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 4: report and a little bit of preseason tape and you

714
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 4: know they're going to run their offense. Aren't going to

715
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: change the offense for them. But I do think I

716
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 4: think he's got a big test on his hands career wise,

717
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 4: is can he now beat the scouting reports that have

718
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 4: been designed to stop him right as opposed to Morgine.

719
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean some of the throws you know, just

720
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: watching those games last year were throws at quite frankly

721
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Speaker 3: any NFL quarterback.

722
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: No, they're not difficult throws. But if you look at

723
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: his heat map is all in the middle of the field.

724
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: The most passes he threw in a game last year

725
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 3: was thirty seven, that coming against Miami. That was after

726
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: that was after coming in for Garoppolo had been injured

727
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: in that game. His starts it was twenty one passes,

728
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 3: twenty six passes, twenty two passes, thirty five passes against

729
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: the Raiders that was an overtime game, that makes sense,

730
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: and then twenty passes against Arizona. Even in the playoffs,

731
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 3: thirty passes against Seattle, twenty nine against Dallas. I mean,

732
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: he wasn't asked to do a.

733
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Speaker 4: Lot, No, and he won't be I mean ideally, and

734
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 4: the playoffs are different, but they had a lot of

735
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 4: big leads, you know, sit on the leads, that type

736
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 4: of thing. He never had to bring them back.

737
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, So then you know, now we just ran the

738
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: ball five straight times. Now we're going to play action

739
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: off of that kittle running down the middle of the

740
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: field all by himself.

741
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: Pooh, look at that.

742
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and it's there's more to it than that,

743
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: of course. I mean, and he did play well, but again,

744
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 4: I do think this is a crossroads of his career.

745
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: And hey, pickets too, you know, I mean, like every

746
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 4: young quarterbacks. What do you think the Ravens and Bengals

747
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 4: and Browns defensive coordinators did all off season?

748
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

749
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 4: Of course, I'm like, boy, he has a towel and

750
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 4: hates the world, was right or whatever it is. But yeah,

751
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 4: you find these things out pretty quick.

752
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, we'll see, Uh, there's there's you know,

753
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: he is far from a completed Like there aren't going

754
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: to be many games this season that the Steelers have

755
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: where Kenny Pickett is the more experienced quarterback, No, of course,

756
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: but this is one of them.

757
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 4: This is one of them where there's more of a

758
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 4: book on him than the opponent.

759
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll obviously Houston will be that that situation in

760
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: the in the when they play, when they play them,

761
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: you gotta take advantage of.

762
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 4: This, Yeah, I mean that is a real perk without

763
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 4: the question and just knowing what your quarter backs capable of,

764
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 4: what there's the opponents is. I mean quarterbacks don't face

765
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: quarterbacks of course, but they kind of do. You know,

766
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 4: like Andy Reid going forward on third and twenty five

767
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 4: last night, fourth and four and twenty five after it

768
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 4: was fourth and twenty and they took a penalty, you know, like,

769
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: does he do that with any other quarterback in the stable?

770
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: I mean it was a bad decision.

771
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: Even with horrible decision.

772
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: It made no sense to me, even with Mahomes and

773
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 4: if they gave him, if Tyreek and Kelsey jumped up

774
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 4: on the team too. Made no sense to me, But

775
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 4: he wouldn't do it with Alex Smith no ploying, you know,

776
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 4: So it's going to be interesting.

777
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: I just think that that matchup is going to be

778
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: interesting to that point. My my unsung hero, the guy

779
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: that I think we might be talking about here a

780
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: little bit is a Landon Roberts.

781
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Speaker 4: Hmmm. See, I almost used him as the opposite in

782
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 4: that I thought it might be more of a kwan

783
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 4: Neal game than a Robertson.

784
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: I think Roberts is going to be the primary play

785
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: caller for the whole team, for the right the whole team.

786
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: And I think him blitzing up the middle, Oh, I

787
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: think that's huge. I think he gets I think he

788
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: gets a couple, either he gets a sack and forces

789
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 3: something that turns into a turnover, or maybe he gets

790
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: a couple of sacks. I just think him coming up

791
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: the middle is going to be an issue for them

792
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: because if the center is going to go over and

793
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 3: try to help on Cam Heyward, but which he's going

794
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: to have to do, and it opens that hole. I

795
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: just keep thinking about to the delayed sack that Roberts

796
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: had against the Falcons where he timed that thing up

797
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: perfectly and then looked like he was shot out of

798
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: a cannon.

799
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, he closes well, and he has an array of

800
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 4: pass rush moves. It's not just I come clean, No,

801
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 4: I like him coming forward a lot, a lot, and

802
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: he does have a real good head for the game

803
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 4: of physicality to him. And frankly, they're O line. It

804
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 4: might be fine. They may be the smartest, best communicated

805
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 4: line in the league, but there are a bunch of

806
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 4: new pieces that haven't played a lot of football either. Yeah.

807
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 4: Picking that stuff up's not easy on the road loud,

808
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 4: you know.

809
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, So keep an eye on that. We're going to

810
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Speaker 2: take another break.

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Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

812
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: to the Drive on Steveer's Nation Radio. Let's take a

813
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 3: look at the games the other teams in the division

814
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: have to open the season. We'll do that when we

815
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 3: come back right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

817
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

818
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

819
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 2: Bat Isandale All. He is Williamson. This is the Drive

820
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Matt looking here at the other games in the AFC North.

822
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 4: Well, I'm looking forward to division games. Yeah, I mean

823
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 4: Steelers aside, and I think they're gonna be phenomenal games

824
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 4: between these four teams or those three teams even just

825
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 4: worth the price of admission.

826
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: Well, we get one right out of the gate because

827
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: the Bengals are at Cleveland.

828
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: That also being a one o'clock game.

829
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 3: Cincinnati's favored by two and they over under that game

830
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 3: is forty eight. The Bengals have not won in Cleveland

831
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: in five years.

832
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 4: Ye, say it's a thing. Now, it's gonna be a trend.

833
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 3: Burrow is one and three against I think it's one

834
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: and three or one and four, maybe a one in

835
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: four against the Browns in his career.

836
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 4: For no matter where they play.

837
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Browns won five straight home games against the Bengals,

838
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: which is tied for the longest home winning streak by

839
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: either team in.

840
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: The history of that rivalry. Brown team.

841
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 4: To say you would think that there's some bad streaks

842
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 4: from Brown's history, obviously, I mean there are against Steelers,

843
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 4: I can promise you that, But I guess the Bengals

844
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 4: were equally bad at some of those points too. Now

845
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: what think this game like. I can't help but think

846
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: of the Bengals in Week one last year not playing

847
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: any of their offensive players, Burrow hardly even participating to

848
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: any degree. And give all the Steelers all the credit

849
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 4: in the world. They took advantage of it, but that

850
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 4: was a shell of the Bengals offense of what it became.

851
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 4: The protection was awful, their timing was awful. Hey, term

852
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 4: they were rusty, but I mean they look like they

853
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 4: hadn't played hardly at all. Can the Browns do the

854
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 4: same thing? I mean, I think the Browns d line

855
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 4: is much better than it used to be. They can

856
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 4: get after Burrow and Burrow does like to hold the

857
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 4: ball and his timing has to be a little off.

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00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm kind of leaning towards the Browns

859
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: in this game.

860
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am too.

861
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: And last year Miles Garrett, if you remember this game

862
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: up in Cleveland against the Bengals, he had one and

863
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: a half sacks and four quarterback hits that game. Coming

864
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: off that that right side or the left side of

865
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: the offense. Now they've flip plopped. They got bring in

866
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 3: Orlando Brown to play to play left tackle, but they're

867
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: flip flops. I mean the problem is now moves over

868
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: to right.

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00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 4: Tackle exactly the same guys out there.

870
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't get rid of the problem. You still

871
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: have the problem.

872
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 4: You're asking him to do something he wasn't as good

873
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 4: at right. You know, like I want to be a

874
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 4: left tackle. Well you're not good enough to be a

875
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 4: left tackle. Go be a right tackle that you're not

876
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 4: as good.

877
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: A well, I don't like by I don't play right tackle.

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00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: Go very well, Well you're gonna be all right.

879
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: So you're still the best we got. Go block Miles.

880
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 4: You know, you know that's problematic.

881
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 3: So I'm looking here at ESPN and they have you know,

882
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: they have matchup X factor Bengals offensive tackle Orlando Brown Junior.

883
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 4: Don't taking Garrett.

884
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: I'm putting them on the right side. Hey, Jonah, here

885
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: I am again.

886
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 4: Look at this, and hey, he's a Darius Smith no

887
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 4: slouch either.

888
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 2: Or he's an incredible slouch.

889
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 4: Don't tell yourself short. So I mean, either way, even

890
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 4: if you left, I like your idea because Miles Garrett

891
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 4: has flip sides too. He's not exclusively right or left.

892
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 4: He can do either. Fine, I still don't like their

893
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 4: chance of blocking them with Orlando Brown. No, and if

894
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 4: they're helping Jonah, no matter what I mean either way,

895
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 4: I give that Brown's pass rush.

896
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: I don't get this idea that Orlando Brown Junior is

897
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: suddenly Trent.

898
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 4: Williams exactly exactly. I mean, I'm a good player. It's

899
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 4: a good player.

900
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, is he market like, yes, he's better

901
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: than uh than what's the face Smith that the.

902
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 4: Guys last night? Yeah, yeah, the dude from Tampa left

903
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 4: the left hat. Donovan Smith.

904
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 2: Donovan Smith. Donovan Smith's a bum.

905
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 4: He's a third tackle.

906
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he is a bum.

907
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 4: He sat out there for a while, nobody wanted it. Yeah.

908
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, So clearly, you know, Kansas City downgraded there, and

909
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: you know, obviously Orlando Brown Junior is an upgrade at

910
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: left tackle for the Cincinnati Bengals.

911
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 4: Yes, I might even say it's a terrible signing. It's expensive,

912
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 4: it was expensive. Left tackles don't grow.

913
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: But again, Joan Williams is still on the field.

914
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 4: He's still on the field. And again Brown's not Walter Jones. Yeah,

915
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 4: I mean he's a good player. He's fine.

916
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 3: You you know, you you replaced a below average tackle

917
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: left tackle or maybe even far below average left tackle

918
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 3: with an average with an average left tackle.

919
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 4: So that's better.

920
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, But now.

921
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: Your below average left tackle moves over and becomes a

922
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: below average right tackle.

923
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 4: I would assume.

924
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: I would assume until I see it, I get to

925
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: believe that.

926
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna need help. I do think a

927
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 4: big reason that Orlando has signed is, like the Steelers,

928
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 4: they had no explosive runs. You know, they kind of

929
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 4: had a bunch of you know, short, choppy. I think

930
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 4: mix it is close to me.

931
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: That might be because mix I.

932
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 4: Think it's more of a running back thing than blocking thing.

933
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 4: But either way, tough place to play. Brown's Nation or

934
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 4: whatever they call themselves, are going to be super wound up.

935
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: I wish I knew a little more about Watson, but

936
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 4: there could be a lot of sacks in that game.

937
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 4: In general, both those quarterbacks hold the ball and neither

938
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 4: one looks to be the sharpest day right now.

939
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett has played nine career games against the Cincinnati Bengals.

940
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 3: He has eleven sacks in those games, and Cleveland is

941
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 3: seven and two. It's Cincinnati in those nine games.

942
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 4: Sometimes you just have a team's number two.

943
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the way. You know, a lot

944
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: of divisions are like that.

945
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 4: No they are, Yeah, I mean Seattle versus the Rams

946
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: and Niners and.

947
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: Those type of mean Dallas has beaten the Giants like

948
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: nine straight times.

949
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: In a row.

950
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 4: I mean, certainly Kansas City versus They're whole thing, or

951
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: Brady Era versus East and things like that, or you know,

952
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 4: Steeler Ravens. It doesn't have to be a lopside of one,

953
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 4: but we know there's trends.

954
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 3: I think the Raiders in Denver is a thing like, yeah,

955
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: they never went in Denver.

956
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 4: They're playing there in Week one. I think get smashed.

957
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 4: And I'm not even high on Denver. But that's one

958
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: of my like locks of the week, and maybe some

959
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 4: of it is. What people don't think about though, is yes,

960
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 4: it's the Browns versus Bengals, but it's also their their

961
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator versus that defensive I mean, they coach against coaches.

962
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: I mean more so than the name, they're the Helmets necessarily.

963
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 4: Maybe the way they protect against Garrett is the way

964
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 4: he wants you to protect against, you know what I mean, Like, Okay,

965
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 4: you just don't understand his weaknesses as well.

966
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Ravens open up at home against the Texans.

967
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 4: It's like, this breaks my heart because I really wanted

968
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 4: to like bet against the Ravens early in the season and.

969
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: They're this, can't do it here.

970
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 4: I think this is a matchup for him.

971
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: Baltimore favored by ten the over runners just forty three

972
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: and a half in. They're favored by ten.

973
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if they win by ten,

974
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 4: but I don't think this game's close.

975
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Baltimore under John Harbaugh, Baltimore is fourteen and two

976
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: against rookie quarterbacks at M and T Bank Stadium. Now,

977
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: one of those losses was last year to Kenny Pickett

978
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: down there.

979
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: And before that, yeah, fourteen to one before that.

980
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're a tough team to play, if.

981
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 3: You think about what Houston didn't do well last year,

982
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 3: they couldn't stop anybody from running the football.

983
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: No, then defense was horrendous, horrendous.

984
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 4: I don't know if the Ravens need to go deep

985
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: into their new bag of tricks. Yeah, to accomplish this.

986
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: It may look exactly like last year's raven offense and

987
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: they just come out and bludgeon the Texans in the

988
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 3: run game.

989
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 4: And the thing I don't like in terms of you know,

990
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 4: Steelers and you know, wanting the Ravens to lose. Is

991
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 4: we've been talking a lot about Well, I think that

992
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 4: D line for the Ravens isn't great. But Houston, who

993
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: traded for Kendrick Green, They're O line is the most injured.

994
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: It's a disaster.

995
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 4: They put all these resources into it looks like, boy,

996
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 4: they're gonna have a stable, decent O line. They're like

997
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 4: all beat up and it's a mess. Right, and Kendrick

998
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: Green might be starting for them.

999
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I expect that one to be a blow.

1000
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be bad.

1001
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's just it's not gonna be fun.

1002
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: Who'd you take in brown Spangles Browns?

1003
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 4: I think so too.

1004
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take the points.

1005
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think they've played their guys more.

1006
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 4: I didn't know that history was that strong in Cleveland

1007
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 4: between those two teams. So interesting. I expect Russ from Burrow.

1008
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 4: He signed a pretty nice contract.

1009
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: We didn't mention that he's getting fifty five million dollars

1010
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: a year. So it was only a five year deal too,

1011
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: So at some point, you know, they're the thing with

1012
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: the Mahomes deal was a ten year deal. Now, he

1013
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: could certainly go back at some say hey let's let's

1014
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 3: talk more money about with this whole thing, But you

1015
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: kind of have an eye allowed the Chiefs to build

1016
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 3: that contract a certain way.

1017
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the.

1018
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: Details of Burrow's contract yet, but I would assume the

1019
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: first couple of years are somewhat guarant somewhat team friendly,

1020
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: but then after that, those final three years get real

1021
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 3: expensive and you don't have anywhere to put that money.

1022
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 3: So the money's going to be the money because you're

1023
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 3: not going to cut him.

1024
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 4: No, right. I mean what's funny to me is the

1025
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: whole guaranteed thing, Like, I'm guaranteed you get the money

1026
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 4: if I'm on the team. I don't think he's getting

1027
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 4: cut in the next two three years. I mean, you'd

1028
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: have to have a disastrous turn of events for him

1029
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 4: to be salary cap casualty type guy that contract aside,

1030
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 4: but just seeing Bosa and Burrows signed for what they did,

1031
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 4: it makes me think ownerships know the CAP's going to

1032
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 4: keep going up and up and up and up. Like

1033
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 4: I think the league is very healthy. Yeah, I mean

1034
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 4: I think owners aren't. I must say I'm not worried

1035
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 4: about money, but I think their revenue stream is only

1036
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 4: getting better, is what why I take away from these contracts.

1037
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 4: How about this little Bosa was noticeably more than Donald Yeah,

1038
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: and I thought he'd get coming under way waymore.

1039
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: The Ravens are forty three and oh outright as double

1040
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: digit favorites in the regular season.

1041
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 4: Okay, you think you'd stumble once once twice.

1042
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 2: That's a big Belichick. Isn't forty three and oh wow as.

1043
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: A double I mean it's because he's been a double

1044
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: digit favored a lot.

1045
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: You lose some of those games, and sure they just haven't.

1046
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean your quarterback is hurting the first quarter

1047
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 4: or you know, whether it hits bad or something that's

1048
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 4: even not close to your fault, you know, just evens

1049
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: the playing field. That's amazing. So they do beat the

1050
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 4: bad teams.

1051
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: They beat up on the bad team.

1052
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: Yeah you said for that. Yeah, that's a tough place

1053
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 4: to play opening Day two for a rookie quarterback.

1054
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: So if that so, what we do know going into

1055
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 3: this weekend is that at least two teams in the

1056
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: AFC North are going to be want to know, at

1057
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: least one team is going to be oh on one

1058
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: and then we have what happens.

1059
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: With the Steelers.

1060
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, so again, I don't.

1061
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: Think we think that two teams are going to be

1062
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: two it.

1063
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think. You know, at least one is

1064
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 4: going to be we know one will be one to

1065
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 4: know you lost time in. But I'd be shocked if

1066
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 4: the Ravens don't end up with a win.

1067
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: I would.

1068
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 4: I mean, if I was into survivor polls or whatever,

1069
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 4: that would be pretty.

1070
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: High one that would be that would be a strong one. Yeah,

1071
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: I mean.

1072
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: Asking Stroud to go in there in a crazy environment

1073
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 4: would be tough.

1074
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, getting Les Lamar pulls a hamstring or something,

1075
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 3: you know, halfway through the first quarter.

1076
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 4: I said this earlier. I was without knowing their schedule.

1077
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 4: I was a little anxious to kind of bet against

1078
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 4: the Ravens just because they're making such a wholesale change

1079
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 4: on offense. You know, like that could be growing pains.

1080
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: I just don't know that they're going to need to

1081
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 2: do it.

1082
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 4: They'll just go out and.

1083
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: Run the ball.

1084
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 3: I get the Texas gave up twenty four hundred rushing

1085
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: yards last year. They were in twenty two touchdowns.

1086
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 4: Wow, on the ground seventeen games it's like one hundred

1087
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 4: feet game.

1088
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: Wow. I mean they were bad, bad, bad.

1089
00:46:59,320 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1090
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: They got better later in the year where they weren't

1091
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 3: giving up quite that much, but at one point early

1092
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 3: in the I mean they were almost a two hundred

1093
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 3: yards for a good, healthy portion of the season.

1094
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a long season, man. Yeah, you're just

1095
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 4: getting of course, you're losing late in the game and

1096
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Speaker 4: people are running on you, but you know it's coming too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're allowed to fload up and.

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Speaker 4: You can also try to stop. Yeah. Absolutely, And they

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Speaker 4: didn't add a ton of run defenders either. It was

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Speaker 4: more let's build around the quarterback right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Ellie.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna take a break when we come back, Matt.

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Speaker 3: One of our more popular features that we do each week,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna put together our.

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Speaker 2: DFS line about that.

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Speaker 3: People have been asking for clamoring for that on on

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Speaker 3: social media.

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Speaker 4: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: We will get to that when we come back. Right

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Speaker 2: after this