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Speaker 1: M Hey everybody, I'm Robert Evans, and this is Behind

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Speaker 1: the Bastards, the show where we tell you everything you

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Speaker 1: don't know about the very worst people in all of history.

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Speaker 1: And this is part two of our epic three part

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Speaker 1: podcast on Alex Jones. He's an innovator, he's an inventor.

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Speaker 1: He's the Steve Jobs of selling supplements to crazy people

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Speaker 1: through the Internet. And today we're actually going to talk

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Speaker 1: about his business selling supplements to people through the Internet.

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Speaker 1: The working title of this episode is how Alex Jones

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Speaker 1: Got rich at the low low cost of People's lives.

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Speaker 1: My guests on part two are the same as my

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Speaker 1: guests on part one. Noelan Benjamin from Stuff They Don't

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Speaker 1: Want You to Know in Ridiculous History. Guys, great to

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Speaker 1: have you back. Thanks for having us back. Man, we're thrilled. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm a little downtrodden more than thrilled.

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Speaker 1: But let's just let's roll the dice, man, Let's see

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Speaker 1: where this goes. It's crazy train kind of but that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm really sort of like. It's like I would

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Speaker 1: it's just not worth it to me. It seems like

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Speaker 1: he has he has taken the wrong he tick, He

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Speaker 1: took the blue pill, and he has down the rabbit hole.

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Speaker 1: And the tale is still untold because I get the

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Speaker 1: feeling they're gonna be some twists and turns in this episode.

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Speaker 1: There will be, and there's gonna be a lot more

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Speaker 1: in the third episode. But for right now, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about two thousand seventeen. That's when Info Wars Life started

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Speaker 1: selling a new product, Caveman, which is a powdered bone

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Speaker 1: broth protein drink supplement. It was billed as I'll let

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Speaker 1: I'll let Alex Jones explain what it was billed as.

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Speaker 1: That is undoubted. With the jewel and the crown of

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Speaker 1: Inful Wars Life Products, Kaith, we lost our vitality because

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Speaker 1: we just ignored the ancient traditions. You use the meat

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Speaker 1: for sessenance, the fat for cooking, but you use the

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Speaker 1: bones for strength. We are now introducing cave Man by

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Speaker 1: nutrition with bone broth to marrick roots, Chaga, mushroom and

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Speaker 1: seven total primal superfoods in a single great tasting formula.

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Speaker 1: The bone is so amazing, the outside structure chagas. It's evocative, right.

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Speaker 1: It also, isn't this the stuff that he seemed to

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Speaker 1: have a tough time drinking on his own show? He

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Speaker 1: shared dead They've pulled most of those videos, but he's

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Speaker 1: clearly barely able to get it past. Is going? But no?

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Speaker 1: I mean now, it seems like a really great product,

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Speaker 1: so great that scientists from the Center for Environmental Health

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Speaker 1: one of the things that's neat about the Center for

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Speaker 1: Environmental Health is that Alex Jones and info Wars had

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Speaker 1: actually used them as a source on the dangers of

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Speaker 1: a group that Alex viewses legitimate and respects. That's why

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Speaker 1: it's so funny that they when they were viewed Caveman

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Speaker 1: and another product, mico z x, which is a blend

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Speaker 1: When they were viewed those they found quote people who

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Speaker 1: Now Caveman did better. It only included twice the recommended

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Speaker 1: know that exposure to lead impairs cognitive function. Is there

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Speaker 1: study UM in South Africa studying people who are competitive

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Speaker 1: conspiracy that Alex Jones is giving people lead poisoning to

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Speaker 1: Alex Jones selling people poisoned bone broth. Any casualties from

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Speaker 1: that scheme will just be more bodies on the pile. Though.

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Speaker 1: Alex Jones has made himself a very wealthy man, but

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Speaker 1: he's done it by trading in the health of his

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Speaker 1: listeners and the health of the nation for sweet, sweet

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Speaker 1: fear dollars see the Info War Store. As I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: the first podcast, launched in two thousand six, at first

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Speaker 1: You could buy T shirts, bumper stickers. I'm sure everyone

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Speaker 1: About nine eleven was an inside job back in the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've seen Info Wars stickers on everything. Uh. They would

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Speaker 1: sell his documentaries there and he had a handful of

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Speaker 1: Between subscriptions, ads, DVD and T shirt sales, Info Wars

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Speaker 1: was making an estimated ten million per year in the

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Speaker 1: mid OTTs. Now that's gross, not net, So what Alex

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Speaker 1: But that was the gross profit around ten million by

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Speaker 1: that poison bone broth. He now sold over price nutrition

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Speaker 1: he also sold fourteen dollar tubes of toothpaste. Are you

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing it doesn't have fluoride in No, no fluoride.

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Speaker 1: You're you're really right about that. I happen to have

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Speaker 1: He repeatedly says, I need your help, Frank. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: I need your help, Frank repressed needs your help, Frank

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Speaker 1: support good oral help with our one of a kind

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Speaker 1: super blue floral. Fuck. So, this is what they call

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Speaker 1: the bona fides there. So so that ad should give

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Speaker 1: inful Wars ad, according to a BuzzFeed interview with a

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Speaker 1: infull Wars a send cated by Genesis Communications Network, a

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Speaker 1: So Alex Jones doesn't get any money from his show

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Speaker 1: When I asked him why, he explained that Jones uses

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Speaker 1: all about selling his dietary supplements. So yeah, he figured

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Speaker 1: to market things. Shilling supplements has been outrageously profitable for Alex.

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Speaker 1: In two thousand twelve and two thousand thirteen. Prior to

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Speaker 1: launching the info Wars life line of products, info Wars

429
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Speaker 1: made about five million dollars a year gross uh In

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Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen, the company made more than twenty million

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Speaker 1: dollars in gross revenue. Alex Jones went from being moderately

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Speaker 1: well off to well. I'm going to quote from a

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Speaker 1: New York Times article about his divorce, Mr Jones bought

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Speaker 1: four Rolex watches in one day in two thousand fourteen

435
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Speaker 1: and spent forty thousand dollars in a saltwater aquarium. The

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Speaker 1: couple's assets at the time included a seventy thousand dollar

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Speaker 1: Grand piano, fifty thousand dollars in firearms, and seven hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty two thousand and gold, silver, and precious metals

439
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Speaker 1: in the safe deposit box. So by two thousand and fourteen,

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Speaker 1: Alex Jones is definitely a rich man. And I can't

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Speaker 1: think of anyone I less want to have fifty thousand

442
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: dollars in firearms and Alex Jones. That is a concerning thing.

443
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: So yeah. That New York Times article also notes that quote.

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00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: Most of his revenue that year came from the sale

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Speaker 1: of products like supplements such as super Male Vitality, which

446
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: purports to boost testosterone or brainforce plus. And in case

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00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: you're curious, Jones claimed that his three seventeen thousand dollar

448
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: shopping spree was a post divorce necessity. It's a free

449
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: country and I had to restart my life, which is fair.

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00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: It is indeed a free country. No law forbids Alex

451
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 1: Jones from getting rich selling crap to whoever. Only here's

452
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: the thing. The entire info Wars business model relies on fear,

453
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: convincing people that an X file scale conspiracy is perpetually

454
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: moments away from tearing them away from everything and everyone

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Speaker 1: they love. Fear of radiation or terrorists or globalist poison

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Speaker 1: campaigns is what sells the radiation shields, supplements, body armor,

457
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Speaker 1: and water filtration systems that Alex Jones hills. And speaking

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Speaker 1: of water filtration systems, you guys want to check out

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Speaker 1: an info Wars life add for that, Yes, so very much.

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Speaker 1: Their filters are impregnated with chilvern, a natural animal. On

461
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: top of that, they're bigger, so they filter faster. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to prime these the first time you use them.

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00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Go to info wars dot com. And click

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Speaker 1: on the shopping cart link to see the entire family

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Speaker 1: of these babies. Now the floor ie, thead our water

466
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: is so timy that most filters can't cut it out,

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00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: but Propure has their system that will again reduce it

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Speaker 1: to non detectible levels almost get so. Again, the thing

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Speaker 1: that is important there is that he's he's not just

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Speaker 1: selling a water filter. He's seeing people are being poisoned.

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Speaker 1: Like he's saying you are being poisoned. They're sneaking fluoride

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Speaker 1: into your water to poison you, and this filter will

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Speaker 1: remove it and other things will not. No, they're not.

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Speaker 1: They're not sneaking it. Though. It's like a thing that

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Speaker 1: municipalities do. They put flight in the water. It's a

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Speaker 1: it's a known thing. Yeah, yeah, it's a known thing.

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Speaker 1: But he's telling people that this is part of a

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Speaker 1: conspiracy to damage you. The globalist You're trying to hurt

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Speaker 1: you with poison in your water, and only this filter

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Speaker 1: will help. But when you literally tell people that they're

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Speaker 1: being poisoned by a group and then name specific people

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Speaker 1: like Barack Obama or Democratic lawmakers as members of that group,

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Speaker 1: it's possible that you might just sort of inspire a

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Speaker 1: couple of shooting spreeze, which is what we're going to

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Speaker 1: get into next. I mean I think that's like episode

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Speaker 1: three material, right when like the whole idea of like,

487
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Speaker 1: how finally now everyone knows that this is hate speech.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it starts to weigh earlier than episode I

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Speaker 1: just want to say before we go on this video

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Speaker 1: clip with the with the water filters is uh, he's

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Speaker 1: like an evil Billy Mays. Evil Billy Mays is a

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Speaker 1: good way to look at it. And these things are

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Speaker 1: very menacing looking. They're very very large and very shiny

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Speaker 1: and metallic, and they look like something that would be

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Speaker 1: in like a meth lab or something. It's very strange. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that probably plays to like the people who

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Speaker 1: are gonna want to buy this want everything to look cool, right,

498
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Speaker 1: Like That's why he doesn't say these are just zinc supplements.

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Speaker 1: It's survival shield and these would go really well in

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Speaker 1: my you know, bomb shelter. It'll look cool next to

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00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: your wall of guns, like you know, and it will

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00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: look cool next to your wall of guns. Um so.

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Speaker 1: At four twelve am on January eight, two eleven, Jared

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Speaker 1: Lee Launer made an incoherent MySpace post that referenced the

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Speaker 1: nation's quote five percent literacy rate and the quote longest

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Speaker 1: war in United States history. He was not talking about Afghanistan.

507
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: He was talking about the info war. Attached to this

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00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: post was a picture of a handgun on top of

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Speaker 1: an American history book. Roughly three hours later, he traveled

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Speaker 1: to a Walmart and purchased ammunition. Then he took a

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Speaker 1: taxi to a safe way at cassas Adoba's, Arizona, where

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Speaker 1: Representative Gabrielle Gifford's was holding a meeting with her constituents.

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Speaker 1: A little after ten am, Louner opened fire on Gifford's,

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Speaker 1: grievously wounding her, killing six people and wounding thirteen. Unlike

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Speaker 1: most mass shooters, Launer was stopped before he could kill

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Speaker 1: himself and was arrested on the scene. Now, a number

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Speaker 1: of things were very wrong with Jared Lawner uh. Some

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Speaker 1: of his friends have stated that he hated Gifford's in

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Speaker 1: part because he hated the idea of women holding positions

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Speaker 1: of power. He also hated George W. Bush, probably because

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Speaker 1: he believed nine eleven was an inside job, and he

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Speaker 1: believed that, among many other things. Because Jared Lowner was

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Speaker 1: a gigantic fan of Alex Jones. In the immediate aftermath

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Speaker 1: of the shooting, investigations in the Lowner's life revealed that

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Speaker 1: he was a huge fan of the Jones produced film

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Speaker 1: Loose Change. This led to a storm of condemnation of

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Speaker 1: Alex Jones and info Wars. The writer of that Rolling

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Speaker 1: Stone article I keep quoting interviewed Jones five days after

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Speaker 1: this shooting. Jones compared the condemnation of him in his

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Speaker 1: you know, infull Wars to McCarthy ism, which, oddly enough,

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Speaker 1: he's also said was a good thing at other times,

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Speaker 1: so he's not a consistent guy. Um. But Jones accepted

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Speaker 1: no responsibility for inciting Lowner quote. During these societal upheavals,

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00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: it's messy. A lot of bad things happen, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have paranoid schizophrenics that gets set off by

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Speaker 1: the crazy things corporations and governments are doing and by

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00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: those who are exposing it to them. But we can't

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Speaker 1: allow ourselves to become paralyzed. If it's schizophrenic takes three

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00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: hits of acid in the forest and sees demons in

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Speaker 1: the trees and snaps, do you cut on the trees,

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Speaker 1: which you don't. But I would argue that if you

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Speaker 1: find someone who's only sells acid to schizophrenics, you probably

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00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: stop that guy. So at that point, Alex Jones wasn't

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Speaker 1: even willing to accept that the shooting was entirely legitimate. Quote.

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Speaker 1: The whole thing stinks to high heaven. This kid lowner

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Speaker 1: disappeared for days at a time before the shooting. My

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Speaker 1: gut tells me this was a staged mind control operation.

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00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: The government employees geometric psychological warfare experts that know exactly

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Speaker 1: how to indirectly manipulate unstable people through the media. They

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00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: implanted the idea in his head by repeatedly asking is

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Speaker 1: Gifford's in danger? So every account I found makes it

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00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: clear that Alex Jones was not Louner's only rode into

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Speaker 1: the world of insane anti government conspiracy theories. Jared had

554
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: a voracious appetite for that stuff. Alex Jones and info wars,

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Speaker 1: though we're clearly part of his intellectual development. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: leave it up to you guys and to the listener

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Speaker 1: to decide how much blame, if any, you think Mr

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Speaker 1: Jones deserves. So right now, I don't know how you

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Speaker 1: guys are feeling in terms of is he at all

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00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: responsible for this? Is his rhetoric responsible for this? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: it is. I think to a degree that's it's inarguable

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Speaker 1: that there's not some responsibility. It's not as if he's

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00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: only saying vague things, and many times, in many situations,

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Speaker 1: there are specific what we would call calls to action,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and targets sign these specific

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Speaker 1: people and playing on this this primal vim or us mentality,

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00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: it makes people feel as if the only choice they

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Speaker 1: might have, especially if they're already unstable, is to take

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Speaker 1: some sort of violent action. So he is, he's not

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00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: going out and shooting people himself, but people are being

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Speaker 1: shot to some degree because of his actions. It's like

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00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: dog whissel racism or something, but like literally kind of

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Speaker 1: implanting subliminal messages in the minds of unstable potential shooters,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think it's inarguable that he

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Speaker 1: is to blame, which makes it ironic that he's talking

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Speaker 1: about people being programmed by specific phrases in terms you know,

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00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: it's it's at the very least cartoonishly ignorant and perhaps hypocritical. Yeah,

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00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: willfully hypocritical. And it's interesting to me too. You say,

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Speaker 1: like he puts calls to action, and I think, what's

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00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: what's so upsetting about Alex Jones. I think it would

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00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: be less upsetting if he had inspired all of these

582
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: attacks and legitimately wanted to because he believes that there's

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Speaker 1: a real globalist conspiracy to poison everybody. But I think

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00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: he gets people amped up and feeling that they're under attack,

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00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: and some people interpret that as a call to action

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00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: to do violence, but he's just trying to sell them

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00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: stuff like that. They call it what they call it

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00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: in marketing scripts. The end of of ad copy is

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Speaker 1: called the call to action. It's like when you tell

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Speaker 1: people the thing they need to buy. I think that's

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Speaker 1: literally what he's doing. But it's it's it's got this

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00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: weird dual effect. It's it's man, it's painful, it's terrifying. Um.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you the listener, aren't quite on

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Speaker 1: board with sort of our theory of Atlex Jones being

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00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: culpable and a lot of killings, let's hear from a

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Speaker 1: more few more info wars fans. Um. Does the name

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Speaker 1: Richard Andrew Papulowski mean anything to you'll, it didn't mean

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Speaker 1: anything to me before I started research. I don't recall.

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Speaker 1: This is not one of the most famous shootings that

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Speaker 1: we've had, but we've had a lot lately. He was

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Speaker 1: a former marine who in two thousand nine got into

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Speaker 1: a spat with his mother. Someone called the police, and

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Speaker 1: Richard greeted them. Wearing a bulletproof vest and wielding an

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Speaker 1: a K forty seven. He opened fire and killed three

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Speaker 1: police officers. Papulowski's friends and family knew that he regularly

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00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: talked about the growing police state, which who doesn't these days.

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00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: He also ranted about a coming collapse and seemed to

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Speaker 1: see himself as a sort of patriotic revolutionary. Here's the

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Speaker 1: Anti Defamation League's report on him. Quote. Pablowski visited the

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Speaker 1: site info Wars, frequently shared links to it with others,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes even posted to it. One of his frustrations

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00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: with the site, though, was that it didn't focus enough

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Speaker 1: on the nefarious roles played by Jews in all of

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Speaker 1: these conspiracies. Quote for being such a huge players in

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Speaker 1: the end game that he observed. In a March twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: two nine posting to for wars, too many info warriors

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00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: are surprisingly unfamiliar with the Zionists. Another time, he was

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Speaker 1: more hopeful, noting that quote racial awareness is on the

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Speaker 1: rise among the young white population. So Alex Jones has

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Speaker 1: had some allegations of anti Semitism leveled at him. He

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Speaker 1: of course denies any kind of prejudice or bias. Other

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Speaker 1: people have suggested that the term globalist as used by

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Speaker 1: Alec Jones, is basically a stand in for the word Jews.

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Speaker 1: There's no way to prove that, but I can prove

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Speaker 1: that some people interpret Alex Jones that way. I'm working

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Speaker 1: on another side project as in my career as a

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Speaker 1: freelance journalist, where I'm collecting the stories of seventy five

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Speaker 1: different fascist activists and how they came to be what

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Speaker 1: they call red pilled um. And in there in that community,

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Speaker 1: that term generally means came to believe that Jews controlled

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Speaker 1: the world. So I found a number of posts in

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Speaker 1: people talking about how they became red pilled on these

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Speaker 1: private fascist forums where people reference Alex Jones. So I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna read one of those quotes, um, and this

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Speaker 1: is from one of the chat rooms where the first

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Speaker 1: Unite the Right rally and Charlottesville was planned. Quote. Info

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Speaker 1: Wars actually did a good job of prepping me for

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Speaker 1: the j Q Jewish question, as much of their facts

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Speaker 1: are fairly true. They just changed the names. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of people interpret his stuff that way. Whether or

641
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: not that's Jones's intention, what is the Jewish question when

642
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: when they're using that term, it means the idea that

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Speaker 1: Jews are behind a global conspiracy to take over the

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00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: world and and dominate politics all of it. It's like

645
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: even sort of like during the Depression, there were a

646
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: lot of movements to eliminate you know, government um control

647
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: of you know, finance or or whatever, and they use

648
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: the term like bankers or financiers, and that was a

649
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: dog whistle term for Jews at the time as well. Absolutely,

650
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: and and even you know Hitler in his when he

651
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: was being more careful with his racism, he had a

652
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: lot of dog whistles, um and yeah, it's it's just

653
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: a common thing with these people and has been for

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00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: a while. And so Alex Jones will of course say

655
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: that that's not at all his intention, but it is

656
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: very clear the some people at least interpret him that way,

657
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: and he has to be aware of that. Right. I

658
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: can't believe he's ignorant of it, right, but I don't know. Also,

659
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: and again, Alex Jones would deny any allegations of anti Semitism,

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Speaker 1: and I have no evidence that he is secretly trying

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00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: to propagandize people in that particular way. UM. Alex Jones

662
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: obviously denied any responsibility for the Paplowski shooting. He said

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00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: this to the Pittsburgh Post Gazette quote, If anybody should

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Speaker 1: be blamed for this, it's the Marines. They're the ones

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00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: who trained him to kill. And it probably is true

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00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: that Papulowski was more dangerous with his a K forty

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00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: seven due to the fact that he had marine training. UM,

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00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: but Alex was the one who trained him to see

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Speaker 1: a gigantic government conspiracy lurking behind every failure and setback

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00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: in his life. It was Alex Jones who really started

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00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: the spread of the FEMA concentration camp conspiracy. And it

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00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: just so happens that shortly before his rampage, Papulowski posted

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Speaker 1: a YouTube clip of Glenn Beck ranting about FEMA concentration camps.

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Speaker 1: If you remember from the last episode, it was not

675
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Speaker 1: uncommon in the early odds for stories to start on

676
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: Alex jones site and then filter up to Glenn Beck's

677
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: primetime show. And one of the stories that started that

678
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: way was the FEMA concentration camp conspiracy. So that's where

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00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: we are right now. Um, it is time for some ads.

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00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: You can take this as a call to action, but

681
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: not a call to commit horrible crimes. Uh. Please don't

682
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: commit any horrible crimes. Just enjoy these products and services

683
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: and we're back. We just got finished talking about the

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Speaker 1: Paplawski shooting where he killed three police officers. Was a

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00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: huge fan of Alex Jones. We talked about Jared Lee

686
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: Lautner who killed six people, huge fan of Alex Jones.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit right now about

688
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: how info wars is a very well documented vector for

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Speaker 1: the spread of fake news. There's a scientific study that

690
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: was carried out by the University of Washington in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen where they looked at three different fake

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Speaker 1: news stories that had spread after the Boston marathon bombing

693
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: and studied how those myths had initially started spreading on

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Speaker 1: Twitter before they filtered out into the mainstream. And they

695
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: traced one of these myths that a group of Navy

696
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: seals had planted the bombs at the Boston Marathon. Back

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00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: to info Wars, links to the info wars website were

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00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: the first links to appear in any tweets related to

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00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 1: this rumor. Their precipitation to the first peak and misinformation

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00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: further demonstrates how external content can help Twitter rumors evolve

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00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: and spread. Now, Kate Starboard, one of the researchers on

702
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: that study, has become an activist and sort of informing

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Speaker 1: people of the fact that there is a concerted effort

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00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: to spread fake news throughout our culture right now. She noted,

705
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: at the time, we thought it was pretty insignificant, but

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00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: things look different in hindsight. But as far back as

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Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen, there was documentation that info Wars had

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Speaker 1: become a major vector for fake news that filtered out

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Speaker 1: and reached the mainstream. I find interesting because two thousand

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Speaker 1: fifteen I wasn't paying any attention to and Alex Jones

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00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: are info Wars. So yeah, it turns out info Wars

712
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: is very popular among the kind of people who wind

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Speaker 1: up in gun battles with the police. In two thousand ten,

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Speaker 1: Byron Williams got into a gunfight with several Oakland Police

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Speaker 1: Office sirs when they pulled him over for driving like

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Speaker 1: a nut. Williams was wearing body armor and armed with

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Speaker 1: both a handgun and a three oh eight rifle, which

718
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: is more firepower than most Oakland commuters tend to carry.

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Speaker 1: When Byron survived his gun battle and surrendered to the police,

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Speaker 1: they started asking him what was going on and why

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Speaker 1: he had body armor and weapons. He said that his

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00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: goal was to quote start a revolution by traveling to

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Speaker 1: San Francisco and killing people of importance at the Tides

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Speaker 1: Foundation and the A C. L U. As you may

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Speaker 1: have guessed, Williams was a gigantic fan of Alex Jones

726
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: who loved to rant about the Tides Foundation in the

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00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: A C l U. He actually found out about the

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Speaker 1: Tides Foundation because of Glenn Beck rant. But I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give you one guess as to where the Glenn Beck

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00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: story started. Here's what Alex Jones told Media Matters when

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Speaker 1: he was asked about this particular shooting. This goes to

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00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: a classic lie that has been retreaded that this fellow

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00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: follows Glenn Beck and Alex Jones. This is a classic

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00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: guilt by association tactic. It is just more of an

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00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: attempt to imply that anyone who criticizes corruption is contributing

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Speaker 1: to an atmosphere that will cause another Oklahoma City bombing. Yeah,

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00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: he's pretty consistent. Yeah, but not, I guess, pretty consistent

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Speaker 1: at practicing the convenience of association, right. He wants to

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00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: be associated with things when they have consequences or results

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00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: that will help his bottom line. But is I mean,

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00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: reading back over that quote, that's matrix level dodging, isn't it. Yeah?

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00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean this is guilt by association.

743
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: He's saying that I'm just criticizing corruption and they're trying

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00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: to tie me into terrorist attacks when the reality is like, no,

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00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: you're telling people that there is a secret war on

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00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: to destroy them and their lives. And then when they

747
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: take you seriously and fight back against the secret war,

748
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: you say, well, that's not what I meant. Like, yeah,

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00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: it's frustrating. You guys. Remember that dude who walked into

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Speaker 1: the Comet Ping Pong pizzeria with an air fifteen because

751
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: he thought children were chained up in there. Well, that

752
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: guy had liked Alex Jones and the Info Wars on

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00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: his Facebook page. He told the New York Times. He

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00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: listen to Alex Jones on the radio. Uh, this guy

755
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: said about Alex Jones quote, he's a bit eccentric. He

756
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: touches on some issues that are viable, but goes off

757
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: the deep end on some things, which I love that.

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00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: That's the guy who brought a rifle into a pizza

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00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: restaurant because he thought there was a secret child molestation campaign.

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00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: Was like, Alex Jones gets a little bit crazy sometimes

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Speaker 1: at least it's a bit of a cook. He's a

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00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: bit of a cook. You have to take it with

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Speaker 1: a grain of salt. I believe that was pizza Gate

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00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: where we're in that same guy was searching for children

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Speaker 1: who were held in a non existent basement. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: Alex Jones was a big proponent of pizza Gate and

767
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: also a big proponent in general of the idea that

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Speaker 1: there's a secret pedophile conspiracy running the entire government and

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00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: all Democrats are pedophiles trying to make the world into

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Speaker 1: a pedophilic empire of some sort. Him and what didn't

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Speaker 1: this have something to do with Hillary Clinton's emails or

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00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: they were like or some exchange between her and one

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00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: of her campaign people where they were like all these

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00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: like secret words, code words that meant, you know, this

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00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: is where we're keeping the children, the virgins, or just

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Speaker 1: terms for scheduling a time to get together and have pizza.

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00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: Run to the popular like place for lawmakers. This comment

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Speaker 1: Pizza Ria was like, yeah, it's a big DC place,

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00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: it's popular, it's it's right in the middle of things.

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00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's even easier when you decide that normal

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00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: words are code words for terrible things, like pizza is

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00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: a code word for child molestation. Well, then like anybody's

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00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: email is going to have references to child molestation in it.

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Speaker 1: Kids love pizza, pizza, Yeah, oh, cheese pizza because CP

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00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: is child something like that. Oh well now it's now,

786
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: it's rock solid. Now Benjamin's on board. I'm so on board.

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00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: So uh I love that quotation, though, Yea Jones goes

788
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: a little off the deep end, just a bit. She's

789
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: he's a little touched, says the guy. You should go on.

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00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: But I bet there's more. I bet there's a lot more.

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00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: You guys remember in two thousand eleven when Oscar Ortega

792
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: fired his rifle at the White House from the window

793
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: of his car. Yes, yeah, it was a big story.

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00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: One of his friends told The New York Times that

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Speaker 1: he had recently watched The Obama Deception. The Mask Comes Off,

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00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: a documentary written and produced by Alex Jones. I don't

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00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: think I remember the subtitle, the Mask Comes Off. Yeah,

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00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: that may have been a sequel. I don't even know

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00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: any He's made a lot of documentaries. Um, so that

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Speaker 1: may have been the sequel to The Obama Deception, The

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00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: Obama Deception, The Mask Comes Off. But I don't know

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00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: off the top of my head. It's there's a Born movies,

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00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: There's the Obama Deception, the Obama President, the Obama whatever.

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00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: I would watch an action movie series that actually started

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00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: Barack Obama as himself waking up with CIA training. That

806
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: would be fucking amazing. Joe Biden's Wheelman. Yeah, and and

807
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Biden's probably the one who says I'm

808
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: getting too old for this. Yeah. He's also like he's

809
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: kind of like the grizzled Michael Caine, you know, like

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00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: he'd be wielding the sawed off shotgun. You know, you know,

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00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: you know what guys, I mean, since we're since we're here,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to lose the flow. I'm just gonna

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00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: text them, Yeah, Michael Caine, I'll just group text Barack Obama,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, Michael kine O. Great. Yeah, the band's got

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Speaker 1: the context because now we've had a couple presidents who

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00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: started off in TV and movies and became president, but

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00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: we've never had a president who became a television star

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00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: after being president, and I really think we're overdue for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But so I I imagine then that Alex Jones probably

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Speaker 1: also denies any association or culpability. Yes, he denies any

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00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 1: So he's that that's going to be across the board.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a specific quote for that one, but yes,

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Speaker 1: he does not take any responsibility for ascar Otega shooting

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Speaker 1: at the White House. After watching a documentary about how

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00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: Obama wants to take our freedom, did you guys hear

826
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 1: about Jared and Amanda Miller's two thousand fourteen shooting spree

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Speaker 1: in Vegas. These were the two guys who left Clive

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Speaker 1: and Bundy's land, headed to Vegas and then ambushed and

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Speaker 1: murdered two police officers in order to spark a revolution.

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Speaker 1: Um They killed one other person outside of a walmart.

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Speaker 1: Five people in total, including the shooters died from all

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Speaker 1: of that. Jared and Amanda were both regular commenters on

833
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Speaker 1: invo Wars. At one point, Jared made a post on

834
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Speaker 1: info wars about killing police officers. Alex Jones declared the

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Speaker 1: shooting to be a false flag carried out by the

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Speaker 1: Obama administration to solely the good name of right wing extremists.

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately for Alex, randomly declaring murders breeze to be

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00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: false flags is a tactic that, after about a decade,

839
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: eventually came back to haunt him. On December fourteenth, two

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Speaker 1: thousand twelve, Adam Alonzo walked into Sandy Hook Elementary School

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Speaker 1: and shot twenty children and six adults dead. Uh Adam

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00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: Lanza was not a fan of Alex Jones, was not

843
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: connected to him in any way that I'm aware of.

844
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: But Alex Jones was a fan of insinuating and sometimes

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Speaker 1: outright claiming that mass shootings where government false flag attacks

846
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: carried out in order to justify a gunvan and that's

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00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: exactly what he did in the wake of the Sandy

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Speaker 1: Hook shootings. Lenny Posner, father of Noah Posner, this youngest

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Speaker 1: victim of the Sandy Hook massacre, says he probably listened

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Speaker 1: to an episode of the Info Wars podcast as he

851
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: was driving away from dropping off his son for what

852
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Speaker 1: would be the last time. Like millions of people like me,

853
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna guess like you guys, Lenny enjoyed conspiracy theories.

854
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: Uh now, he believed in some of them. He definitely

855
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: had some baddy beliefs at the time, but he wasn't

856
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: a blind crazy fan of Info Wars or Alex Jones.

857
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: He watched him because Alex is entertaining and funny to watch, right,

858
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: Like pretty much everyone who's listened to this podcast so far,

859
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: he thought Alex Jones was entertaining, but not anyone to

860
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: take too seriously, just like the comment Ping Pong guy.

861
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: That changed after Sandy Hook. I'm gonna play a compilation

862
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Speaker 1: of a few of the things Alex Jones said about

863
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Speaker 1: that mass shooting, as compiled by CNN. And we'll get

864
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Speaker 1: into why I have to use a CNN clip in

865
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Speaker 1: a little bit here, But here's Alex talking about Sandy Hook.

866
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Speaker 1: The official story of Sandy Hook has more holes in

867
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Speaker 1: it than Swiss cheese. Now, God tells me the Whitehouse,

868
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: people controlling the governments were involved in this, So don't

869
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: ever think the globalst that have hijacked this country wouldn't

870
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: stage something like this. They kill little kids all day,

871
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: every day, and it's not our government, it's the globalist

872
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they're doing it. They're doing it, they're staging it. Yeah,

873
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: so that can't even laugh at that. This crisis actor thing, Yeah,

874
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: this spread out of that. You know, he didn't start

875
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Speaker 1: out by saying that all of the deaths had been

876
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Speaker 1: but that's part of the Alex Jones thing is that

877
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Speaker 1: if other conspiracies crop up around a conspiracy he started,

878
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: then he'll entertain all of those theories. And he definitely will.

879
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: We'll play some clips later of what he said about

880
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: the parents, but he was open to the idea that

881
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: no children had died in Sandy Hook whatsoever. Um. So,

882
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: after you know this, partly as a result of Alex

883
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: jones broadcast about the Sandy Hook shootings, the Sandy Hook

884
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 1: Truth movement started to grow and spread. Nuts began traveling

885
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: to Sandy Hook to film the town and document evidence

886
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: that it was in on some bizarre government conspiracy. At

887
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: one point, when Lenny Posner was checking into a hotel,

888
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: the man behind the counter saw his hometown on his

889
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: I D and said, quote, oh, Sandy Hook, you know

890
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: the government did that, right, So yeah, it wasn't all

891
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: little incidents like that. People started to believe that the

892
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: families of the victims were in on the false flag shooting, because,

893
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: according to one variant of the theory, there were no victims.

894
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: Lenny and his at the time wife began to suffer

895
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: harassment and even threats from strangers who thought they had

896
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: faked the death of their six year old son from money.

897
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: The couple split up not long after Noah's death, but

898
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: the harassment caused them both to move out of Sandy Hook,

899
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: hundreds of miles away from their son's grave site, which

900
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: they couldn't visit anyway out of the fear that some

901
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: nut with a gun was camping out and waiting for them.

902
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: Lenny said this to The New York Times, quote, conspiracy

903
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: theorists erased the human aspect of history. My child, who lived,

904
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: who was a real person, is basically going to be erased. Yeah,

905
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: which is yeah, that's probably the best coda we could

906
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: possibly get for this episode. Um, conspiracy theorists erased the

907
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: human aspect. This is like when ship gets real. I mean,

908
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: obviously she has already gotten real with like you know,

909
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: poisoning his listeners and all this ship and just duping

910
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: people left and right. But this is when they start

911
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: to be real consequences and like real weight behind this

912
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: bullshit that he's spouting. Yeah, and it's just it's it's

913
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: like a boiling point where you can't deny it anymore.

914
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: Now he does experience some some serious fallout from this, right, Yeah,

915
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: And we'll be getting into the fallout in part three

916
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Speaker 1: of this episode. I do want to note that we

917
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Speaker 1: had to use the scene and super cut from all

918
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: those scenes of Alex Jones ranting about Sandy Hook because

919
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: none of the videos where Alex spread that theory are

920
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: still up on info Wars. He wondered why, Yeah, he

921
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: deleted them after a massive lawsuit threatened his livelihood. It

922
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: was possibly illegal that he did this, and in fact,

923
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: Mr Jones and his company were sanctioned for deleting quote

924
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: extensive social media materials and reportedly hundreds of hours of

925
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: video which give you when Trump deletes his tweets, only

926
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: you know different. So what does the base of info

927
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: Wars think about Jones and code deleting all this footage? Well,

928
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think any of them have said

929
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: anything about at least I haven't read any of that.

930
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's if if Trump deletes his wheets,

931
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: like his fans just don't sort of acknowledge the thing

932
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: that got deleted. Um, you know, Jones will usually portray

933
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: it as we're constantly under a check by the globalists.

934
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: They're always trying to shut us down, so we have

935
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: to do things to protect ourselves. I think that people

936
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: would be like, this is clear evidence that the conspiracy

937
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: is real because the government had to go after Alex

938
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: and make him take it all down in order to

939
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: because they're trying to keep a lid on it. You know.

940
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, though, I don't want to get

941
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: us too off topic, but if the globalist are that

942
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: powerful and that a moral, then why are they so ineffective?

943
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: Why is his show still on the air. There's a lot,

944
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: there's so many things that don't add up. Yeah, and

945
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: if you think about Alex's whole career, the line that

946
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: he believes about himself makes no sense. It's like how

947
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: he was back in the late nineteen nineties calling his

948
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: show the Final Edition, and here twenty some years later,

949
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: he is still saying all of this stuff. He's never

950
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: been stopped, nobody's come after him. It's like you said,

951
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: it behooves the doomsday profits for the doomsday never to

952
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: come because they they that way, they can keep cashing

953
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 1: in on these suckers that believe every word they say.

954
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: And it's it's just it's like gas lighting one oh one.

955
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: That's that's what he does, you know, I mean, yeah,

956
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: it's it's nuts well, and it's this is a common

957
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: thing for conspiracy theories, and it's also a common thing.

958
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: It's something they share because obviously not everyone who's a

959
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: fan and not i'm gonna say not most people who

960
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: are fans of info wars or anti Semitic or who

961
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: are fascists or whatever. But if you look at sort

962
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: of the anti Semitic conspiracy theories as spread by the fascists,

963
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: it's always this conspiracy is always all powerful but simultaneously

964
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: too dumb to stop them. That's the same thing with

965
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: Alex and stuff, like there's this conspiracy that's all powerful,

966
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: but also we're so smart and so woke that we

967
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: can defeat it by doing these things. So but it

968
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: needs to be both like it it does need to

969
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: be a constant threat because number one, that's how you

970
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: sell the supplements, but also that's how you keep people

971
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: amped up. But they also need to feel like they're

972
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: doing something to fight it by supporting info Wars and

973
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: sharing its stories on Twitter and Facebook and whatever. I

974
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: think it's no accident it's called info wars because warfare

975
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: works the same way, right like we you know, companies

976
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: make billions and billions of dollars by us being in

977
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: a constant state of terror and war, and it makes

978
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: people like need them and if you know, if we

979
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: had peace, it go out of business. That's no good,

980
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: you know. And it's also interesting to me that the

981
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: title info wars because Alex Jones is such a pioneer

982
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: in fake news and now we are all across the world,

983
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: everyone listening to this in the middle of a war

984
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: that is being fought in large degree via information. And

985
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm going back to like, if you talk about the

986
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: there's two thousand ten, the Russian invasion of Georgia started

987
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 1: with the fake news blitz. Uh, the Ukrainian Civil War.

988
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: I've talked to people have reported on that one. Like

989
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: from that war, when you talk to people who live

990
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: in the parts of eastern Ukraine that were first effective.

991
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, it's started with internet and television propaganda.

992
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: Um so in a weird way, by picking the name

993
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 1: info wars for his sight, he kind of did predict

994
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: and define what was going to be happening in the

995
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: next couple of decades. And he really was the first

996
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: person to weaponize the Internet in an effective way. I

997
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: don't think he intentionally did it, because he was just

998
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: trying to sell supplements, but like, there is definitely connection

999
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: between how Alex Jones has accidentally helped to spark so

1000
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: many shootings and how Isis will do stuff like put

1001
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: out propaganda to hundreds of thousands of people in the

1002
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: hopes that one person will drive a bus into a

1003
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: group of crowded people. Like it is, they're doing it intentionally,

1004
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: and he was not trying to get anyone killed. He

1005
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: just wanted to sell supplements. But it's the same tactic essentially.

1006
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: It's the same idea that if you fill people with

1007
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: propaganda and convince them that they are being targeted and

1008
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: attacked in the situation is dire, some of them will

1009
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: do crazy things and you can just let that happen.

1010
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 1: As a side effect of trying to sell bone broth,

1011
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: or you can a targeted attempt to make that happen,

1012
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: but either way it's the same tactic. Where does that

1013
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: leave us now, Robert at the point where it sounds

1014
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: like there was litigation that it was to some degree effective, right,

1015
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: it didn't um tamped down his base, but it did,

1016
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: I think show that he's not bulletproof. So so, where

1017
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: where are we now? Where does this go? Well? Where

1018
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: we are, at least in the podcast we're telling is

1019
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: Alex Jones has been sued by the families of the

1020
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: Sandy Hook victims that he uh sort of made into

1021
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: escape doubts for a lot of his listeners. Where we're

1022
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: going to be in the next episode is uh, I'm

1023
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: titling the third one the Fall of the House of Jones.

1024
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, the Sandy Hook families are not the only

1025
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: people who sued him, although it is very possible that

1026
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: that lawsuit will be the thing that finally brings his

1027
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: empire of bullshit crashing to the ground. It's a really

1028
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: tremendous story and I'm excited to bring it to you

1029
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: and to all of you listening right now. On on Thursday,

1030
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: when we we dropped part three of this Alex Jones podcast,

1031
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: and there will be a lot of shot in freude

1032
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: in that one. So if you've been frustrated with all

1033
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: of the death and lies and nonsense and racism and

1034
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 1: dirty gym socks on his ears, uh, you'll you'll get

1035
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: some Catharsis in this next episode before we get into that,

1036
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: you guys want to plug your plug doubles. Absolutely so.

1037
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Speaker 1: We are hosts of two different shows you can find

1038
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: Nola myself on stuff they don't want you to know,

1039
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: where conspiracy realists and skeptics alike apply critical thinking to

1040
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: the world of conspiracy theories. Yeah. I think we actually

1041
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: recently did an episode on the whole Alex Jones turning

1042
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: the frogs gay, that whole debacle. Um. But man, I

1043
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: just I'm learning more than I ever wanted to know

1044
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: thought I wanted to know about this absolute peach of

1045
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: a human Um. We also host a show together called

1046
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: Ridiculous History that kind of looks at some of the

1047
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: lesser known, more oddball, fun bizarro tales throughout human history.

1048
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: And it's a nice little snack able thirty five minute

1049
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: podcast and we have a lot of fun doing it.

1050
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: Why do British lawyers wear wigs perukes for it? It's

1051
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: a weird one. What do we do today? We did

1052
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: one today about how maybe some British people during the

1053
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: Napoleonic War hanged a monkey because they thought it was

1054
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: a French spy. So stuff like that. And you can

1055
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: find every episode of every podcast we have ever done

1056
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: on Ridiculous History Show, dot Com and stuff they Don't

1057
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 1: Want You to Know dot Com. If you didn't catch

1058
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: it in the first episode, we highly recommend checking out

1059
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Speaker 1: our ridiculous episode that features a cameo from How Stuff

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Speaker 1: Works own Robert this is true. This is true. That

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Speaker 1: was a lot of fun to do. And it's the

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Speaker 1: one where Robert coined the term chock full of Nazis,

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Speaker 1: which I have pitched super hard as being a behind

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Speaker 1: the Bastards t public dot Com T shirt. We shall

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Speaker 1: see if that comes to pass, or if any coffee

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Speaker 1: sponsors wanna wanna Behind the Bastard's branded coffee that's basically

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Speaker 1: your coffee. Um, I'm Robert Evans my Twitter as I right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've got a book on Amazon and brief history of Vice. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You can find this website on behind the Bastards dot

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Speaker 1: Com with all of the sources for today's episode. You

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Speaker 1: can also find us on Twitter and Instagram at at

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Speaker 1: Bastards pod and uh. I just want everyone to know

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Speaker 1: the globalists are trying to sap all of the iodine

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Speaker 1: out of your body. But if you give me forty dollars,

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Speaker 1: I have a pocket full of dirty iodine pills that

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Speaker 1: I will pour into an envelope and mail to you

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Speaker 1: at song. Yeah, pocket full of dirty pills. All right.

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Speaker 1: You can buy our t shirts on t public. They

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Speaker 1: will stop the globalists from pulling the iodine out of

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Speaker 1: your blood, especially the Nachos not Nazi shirt. That one

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Speaker 1: really helps you retain a lot of iodine. Umcau is

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Speaker 1: why I recommend that. Anyway, you can catch the conclusion

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Speaker 1: of our thrilling three part story on Alex Jones on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Until then, I love