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Speaker 2: Crushed it.

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Speaker 1: It's good without further ado.

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Speaker 3: That's what the game's all about.

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Speaker 3: If you try that again, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast NBA edition for this week.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. I'm your host, Matt Morgan, f

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Speaker 1: me on Twitter at HP Basketball, joined as always by

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Speaker 1: Brandon Anderson and Raheem Palmer. On today's show, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: draft Finals matchups Curtsey of our partner bet MGM, the

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Speaker 1: official OS provider for the Action Network Podcast. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: run down our back to the future, and I have

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Speaker 1: a team that definitely goes in the thanks for Nothing category.

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Speaker 1: We'll do all that this week. Hope you guys are

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Speaker 1: enjoying your week getting set for an exciting MLB Opening Day.

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Speaker 1: But enough about baseball. It's the last time I will

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Speaker 1: ever talk about baseball. Let's talk about NBA On this

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Speaker 1: week's edition of The Marquee The Marquee.

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Speaker 3: If you hear the shutter from La.

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Speaker 1: Crow and this week's Marquee, we are going to do

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Speaker 1: a draft of the best NBA Finals matchup odds I

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Speaker 1: love these bets because if I started thinking about it

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Speaker 1: from the perspective fellas of if we know who's going

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Speaker 1: to be in the finals, pretty much at least one

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Speaker 1: know that the NBA is largely like it's way too predictable,

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Speaker 1: we should be able to use that to our advantage

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Speaker 1: in some degree. And even with the uncertainty, the numbers

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Speaker 1: for like just to win the conference are not all

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Speaker 1: to build some pretty juicy numbers. So I've been betting

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Speaker 1: these since preseason. I've bet them continuously. I've added on

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Speaker 1: to my positions. I have a couple that I'll talk

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Speaker 1: When you guys were approaching this, we're doing best value,

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Speaker 1: not like what you think is gonna happen or most fun,

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Speaker 1: but this is like what the best value is? Cursey,

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Speaker 1: I bet MGM, our official odds provider for the action

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Speaker 1: that we're podcast. Rahim. When you were looking at this,

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Speaker 4: I wanted to, you know, I wanted to look at

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Speaker 4: the you know, what matchups a team might have to play,

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Speaker 4: Like if you look at the Eastern Conference, right the

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Speaker 2: You have the Nets, the Sixers in the Bucks.

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Speaker 4: So if the Sixers fall to the two seed, they

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Speaker 4: Western Conference. Obviously you don't want a team like I

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Speaker 2: So I kind of I knocked the Nuggets out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I tried to kind of start from scratch

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Speaker 5: And I came away with one in each conference, one

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Speaker 1: Nice I like it. I like it very much. You

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Speaker 4: I'm going to brook the nets Los Angeles Clippers plus

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Speaker 4: six hundred. Really yeah, I mean for me, I mean

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Speaker 4: so I definitely want the Nets. I think the Nets

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Speaker 4: I look at the West, we spoke about this before,

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Speaker 4: and the Lakers are vulnerable this year. A d has

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Speaker 4: I think they upgraded it. Just just getting rid of

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Speaker 1: But the third time you've said it for something that

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Speaker 2: I struggled with it because I partied with Lou.

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Speaker 4: We had some great times in Philadelphia, but as a

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Speaker 4: I think you know Lou was. Tyron lewis a to

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Speaker 2: I'm high on him.

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Speaker 1: Six to one, still pretty good number. I like the

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Speaker 1: value there I have. I have an ad Clippers position.

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Speaker 1: I am onto it. When I bet at All Star Break,

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Speaker 1: I bet Clippers to win the division, and I bet

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Speaker 1: me from when he knows bets, I'm just taking an

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Speaker 1: I'm still getting plus three seventy five for NETS Lakers,

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Speaker 1: so I will go ahead and grab the Lakers. Look,

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Speaker 1: I understand all the reasons for concern, but how many

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Speaker 1: thing that we all knew was gonna happen anyway before

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Speaker 1: Barkley all the time. I'll steal it again.

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Speaker 3: Bet.

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Speaker 1: The narrative and the narrative in the NBA is that

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving form a super team and reached

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Speaker 1: the finals. Lebron James and Anthony Davis form a super

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Speaker 1: Pet I agree. There's a lot of reasons. I can

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Speaker 1: throughout the course of this podcast, don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 1: One of them is that the Lakers have really never

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Speaker 1: been in a high pressure playoff moment, not once like

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Speaker 1: last year, it was five's all the way down until

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Speaker 1: the Heat Game Heat Series, and they were never danger

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Speaker 1: of losing that. There's a lot of ways I think

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Speaker 1: that the Lakers can fall apart, but plus three seventy

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Speaker 1: that I'm gonna have like really good value here, when

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Speaker 1: by the second round this is probably gonna be what

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Speaker 1: even to a minus number by the second round, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna grab plus three seventy five. I'll take Nuts Lakers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah that I mean that has to be the number

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Speaker 5: I wanted to pick last just because I didn't want

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Speaker 5: I didn't want Nuts. Clippers were the two picks that

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Speaker 5: I would put it more like plus five hundred. You're

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Speaker 3: Still should be.

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Speaker 5: The number one pick because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I wouldn't take Nuts Lakers against the field

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Speaker 2: Can't take that.

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 4: I can't take nets Lakers as the number one pick

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Speaker 4: when both star players are hurting and I don't.

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Speaker 1: Come on what Well, let's just be clear here, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Ady did not hurt his achilles. He's made this clear.

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Speaker 1: He hurt the surrounding muscle around the achilles. He is

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Speaker 1: also supposed to likely be back next Wednesday, giving him

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Speaker 1: a full month and a half to submarine Brandon's James

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Speaker 1: Harden MVP ticket. Like he is going to be back. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: like you've got you've got Davis, right, You've got Davis

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Speaker 1: with like the supporting injury. It's not the achilles like

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Speaker 4: I mean they before, before KD got hurt, they told

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Speaker 4: us it wasn't the achilles. I mean the first initial

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Speaker 1: It's like way longer, like he's been out this whole time,

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Speaker 1: and and like.

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Speaker 2: Why you know what they say, here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: The thing they said about the achilles is that at

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Speaker 4: some point he's gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Rest doesn't like help it.

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Speaker 4: So if it's gonna go, it's gonna go, and I

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Speaker 4: don't want to risk plus three seventy five that now

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Speaker 4: I think as.

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Speaker 1: Do bad things like that happen to the Lakers.

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Speaker 4: No, what I'll say is the Wills fall off of

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Speaker 4: things at some point.

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Speaker 2: And Lebron has been going for a long time and.

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Speaker 1: He's gotten ankle. Man, he's got a sprained ankle. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a knee injury, doesn't have a foot, doesn't.

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Speaker 2: But I just if both star players are hurt right now,

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Speaker 2: I can't do.

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Speaker 1: It, all right, Brandon, I I gotta know what's this

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Speaker 5: So I mean I honestly I didn't want to. I

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Speaker 1: They genuinely feel like they should have been in that series,

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Speaker 1: I think the Clippers are maybe motivated, but the Clippers,

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Speaker 4: I was gonna take the Nets Nuggets. But I think

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Speaker 4: Variants, and I think the Jazz have that same thing,

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Speaker 4: Home court of vantage throughout the playoffs at this point,

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Speaker 4: so you know, you give me, you know, the Jazz

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Speaker 1: What's your number on this This is plus eight hundred.

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Speaker 5: So so I had Nets Jazz is actually my most likely,

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Speaker 5: not Nets Lakers finals on my board. That does not

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Speaker 5: gonna take them with my first pick. It's not my

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Speaker 5: about right. I had a plus nine hundred for me,

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Speaker 5: I have a slightly more likely than Nets Nuggets. My

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Speaker 1: You have to give me ten. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're a team that, I mean, we spoke

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Speaker 1: No, it's maybe that's like the play, right is like

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Speaker 1: the Jazz and the in the series by series to hedge, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: still probably wind up profiting taking that strategy, right because

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Speaker 1: that's where I want to go. So like, I think

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Speaker 1: you could probably build a pretty good model there, especially because,

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Speaker 1: like you know, the because the Jazz are so good,

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Speaker 1: a good question though. Let's say that that scenario I

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Speaker 1: What do you put the series line at? Like, if

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Speaker 1: if you give if you give plus money to the

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Speaker 1: what do you put a Jazz Lakers second round series

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Speaker 2: And also you have to, like I like to I

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Speaker 4: People don't talk about enough is the war of attrition

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Speaker 1: But as if you're the book and you've got all

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Speaker 6: One eight hundred gambler in New Jersey, Pennsylvania and West Virginia.

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Speaker 6: One eight hundred and nine with it in Indiana. One

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Speaker 6: eight hundred and two seven zero seven to one to

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Speaker 6: one seven in Michigan. One eight hundred and eight nine

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Speaker 6: nine seven eight nine in Tennessee, one eight hundred bets

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Speaker 6: off at Iowa or one eight eight five three to

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Speaker 6: two thirty five hundred in Virginia. Betsink not available in

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Speaker 6: the data. Thanks for listening. Now back to the show.

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Speaker 1: All right, I have to go next. Uh, this is

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Speaker 1: very difficult. After after Brandon took the best pick on

444
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Speaker 1: the board. All right, I'm gonna do it. Yeah, I'm

445
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Speaker 1: taking Bucks Lakers at plus one thousand, I'm getting ten

446
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Speaker 1: to one. I'm getting ten to one. Look, we need

447
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Speaker 1: to be very precise about how we talk about the Bucks. Okay,

448
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 1: there's let's leave the they're not built for the playoffs they

449
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Speaker 1: always show. Let's leave that for the casuals. Okay, let's

450
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 1: drop that on over to cable TV and they can

451
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Speaker 1: do that. Nonsense. Let's talk about what we know. Okay,

452
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 1: the Bucks have been dominant the last three seasons. The

453
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: Bucks have rolled in series where they have not had

454
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Speaker 1: specific Fike disadvantages. They have lost to the Heat and Raptors.

455
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Speaker 1: Let's examine those teams in particular. They had primary shooters

456
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Speaker 1: that you had to worry about, but they also had

457
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Speaker 1: secondary shooters that you had to worry about. If you

458
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 1: go back to that Bucks, Heat series last year and

459
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: you go like, well the heat killed them from three.

460
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 1: You go, oh, well, Duncan Robinson went wild. Nope, Duncan

461
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 1: Robinson wasn't what did him in? Jay Crowder is what

462
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: did him in. You go back and you look at

463
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: the numbers. Jake Crowder put up all a huge amount

464
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: of three point numbers and once it started sliding after

465
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: everything that went on with the Bucks and like everything

466
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Speaker 1: from like the like in the bubble, all the emotion

467
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: going on, like George Hill did not want to be

468
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: there for understandable reasons, all that stuff, like they did

469
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Speaker 1: not have it. This year's team is mostly different. It's

470
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Speaker 1: new guys. There's a lot of new guys on this roster,

471
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Speaker 1: but they're mostly veterans. You've got Drew that adds another playmaker.

472
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Speaker 1: Everybody's well, they need a guy in the Premier they

473
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 1: can create shots. Like last night, I thought he was

474
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Speaker 1: really good versus La. It's a good example of this.

475
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: If the Bucks get and like, we don't have to

476
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Speaker 1: worry about fourth through we we agree, right, we don't

477
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: have to worry about fourth through eight in the Eastern Conference, right, like,

478
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: like if they run into Miami, maybe we're gonna hedge

479
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Speaker 1: against this position if I take, if I take against

480
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: Miami is terrible this year, okay, but like just that,

481
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: like they don't do like another Oh we're magically Coran

482
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: Dragic is back to twenty fifteen form like that nonsense again, right, yeah,

483
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: but if the Bucks face the Sixers, the Sixers have

484
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: more shooting this year. But if you stay home on

485
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: Seth Curry, who is going to kill you from three?

486
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: Like maybe Tobias, right, maybe that's it, Like you stay

487
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: on one Tobias and then Seth Curry kills you. That

488
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: might be the model. They might be able to build

489
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Speaker 1: the transition wall. The teams do versus Jannis, that might

490
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Speaker 1: be possible, But the Sixers have to be able to

491
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Speaker 1: score enough or is a very good Bucks defense in

492
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: order for that to matter. I would at least have

493
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Speaker 1: the Bucks favored in that series, even if it's one,

494
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: if it's a one to three Western Conference Finals or

495
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals, I still probably have Bucks favored. I

496
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: would I would grab Bucks at plus money there if

497
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: it's Bucks nets right, it's just like, oh, forget about it.

498
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: You know they're done, okay, but look who's building the

499
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Speaker 1: wall on Brook Blake Griffin is Blake is LaMarcus Aldridge

500
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: and Blake Griffin gonna build the wall versus Giannis that

501
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: that's not happening, right, And then so that then it

502
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: becomes if the nets are all based off of isolation

503
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Speaker 1: scorers with Katie Kyrie Harden, Okay, you have the defenders

504
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,959
Speaker 1: and the back line defense to make that difficult, and like,

505
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 1: they'll score for sure, but if you're not able to

506
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Speaker 1: put up a good defensive effort versus Milwaukee, they'll put

507
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Speaker 1: up points too. They have the weapons to put up

508
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Speaker 1: a put up a big number. So like, would I

509
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Speaker 1: rather have the Nets? Yeah, that's why I got Nets Lakers, right,

510
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: But I'll take Lakers Bucks for the most obvious Western

511
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Speaker 1: Conference team and a Milwaukee team At this point, I

512
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: think we have to say is a little undervalued because

513
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Speaker 1: teams are because everybody is so reactive to those specific

514
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: two playoff losses. Agreed.

515
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Speaker 5: Yeah, what you're saying, Bucks Lakers to me is my

516
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Speaker 5: most likely finals not involving the Nets. So I think

517
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Speaker 5: that to me, you have built a solid draft that

518
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Speaker 5: gives you a very high chance of having the finals

519
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 5: a matchup, and you also just made the entire case

520
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Speaker 5: for my next pick, which is I agree the Bucks

521
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Speaker 5: have value. We all agree the Nuggets have value. I'm

522
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Speaker 5: taking Box Nuggets. Who oh, five thousand in the executives,

523
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 5: eat your heart out fifty the lowest rated finals Milwaukee, Denver.

524
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Speaker 5: We're excited. But listen, I said before, I think the

525
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Speaker 5: Nets are the heavy favorites in the East. I don't

526
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 5: like the Sixers. I don't want the Sixers. And if

527
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 5: this is a three team conference and I don't want

528
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 5: one of them, that leaves the other two and that

529
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 5: makes the second one valuable too, which is the Bucks.

530
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Speaker 5: I have the Nuggets about even with anyone but the Lakers,

531
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Speaker 5: and I think Bucks Lakers clearly is more likely.

532
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Speaker 3: Duh, it's the Lakers. It's Lebron. We know this is happening.

533
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Speaker 3: I think it's.

534
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Speaker 5: About twice as likely. But at plus one ten to

535
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 5: one versus fifty to one, I don't hate the odds here.

536
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 5: I had this around twenty eight hundred instead of five thousand.

537
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 5: That I'm actually getting Bucks Nuggets. Boy, the referees in

538
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 5: the conference finals are gonna be rooting for the other teams,

539
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 5: so I'm gonna actually need some buckets here. I'm not

540
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 5: betting the narrative, not at all. I'm just taking the

541
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Speaker 5: teams and I think are good and have a shot.

542
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Speaker 1: Imagine an NBA where we get Bucks Nuggets finals. It

543
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: will be amazing. It would be so much fun, could

544
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: be so good for the sports, could be so terrible

545
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Speaker 1: for the ratings. I love it, Brandon. I love it

546
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Speaker 1: at fifty one. I think that you, like there's a

547
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: big case for it. It's not gonna happen. But if

548
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: you're building around this, like by the way, like basically,

549
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: here's the difference between our drafts. Raheem and I are

550
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: more likely to make money, Like we're pretty likely to

551
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: make money. You were very likely to not make any money.

552
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: But if you make money, you were making all the

553
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: money in all the world, like you were bank rolling

554
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: yourself for the next two years.

555
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 3: Welcome that.

556
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Speaker 5: I'm Brandon Anderson. That's what I do. I'm gonna take

557
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 5: a great victory lapp somewhere in the playoffs, and now

558
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be a broke afterward.

559
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Speaker 1: It's plusant. All right, Raheem, you're back up with you.

560
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 2: All right, I'm going back to the well.

561
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 4: I'm going Brooklyn Nets, Phoenix Suns.

562
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: I mean the.

563
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: Sons, zero respect for the Sexers and Bucks, like just

564
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: zero respect for them, and I love it.

565
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 2: I mean, the sun they have a top five offense,

566
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: top five defense. Yeah, CP three.

567
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's about time that he finally gets

568
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 4: to Western Conference finals, and I think this might be

569
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 4: the year that he might be able to pull it off.

570
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 4: So if I think he can get to the Western

571
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: Conference finals, anything can happen. At that point, I'm gonna

572
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 4: roll with them plus plus twenty two hundred. I wish

573
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 4: it was a little bit higher, but I mean the

574
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 4: Suns team has just been really good this year.

575
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I think twenty two to

576
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: one is pretty good though, right, I mean, you're still

577
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: getting a massive return on this. That's why I like these

578
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: mashup things, Right, It's like you're just you're gonna get

579
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: such a good return on these bets. You can take

580
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: a you can take multiple positions here and come out

581
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: pretty good versus betting the conferences. It's your your numbers

582
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: are so much shorter, man. I see, I would I

583
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: encircled that one. I was like, ah, but take Raheem's

584
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: sons like that, all right, fine, and then I'll do it.

585
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: I will take, don't make me do it. I want

586
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: to take a long shot. You guys took all the

587
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: fun long shots and I don't get and that sucks.

588
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: I want Sixers nuggets, but I'm not gonna let myself

589
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: do it. I think Embiid versus Jokic would be absolutely incredible.

590
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: That would be such a fun finals. I'll take Sixers Clippers.

591
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: I think, look, we're if anything, I think this podcast

592
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: is underrated. The Sixers number one in the Eastern Conference, right,

593
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: gonna get in beid back. They're already saying he's gonna

594
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: be back about a week. I'm gonna have another month

595
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: of him getting ready. I think that there's a really

596
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: good chance that he winds up. He's gonna be in

597
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: the MP conversation. You got Ben Simmons, the second defenders.

598
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: They do like if the Bucks like run into a Miami, right,

599
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: and it's net Sixers. I still keep wondering, as much

600
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: as I like the Nets, is are you gonna try

601
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: LaMarcus Aldridge defending Joel Embiid? Are you putting DeAndre Jordan

602
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: on Joel? Is this the thing that you're really gonna do?

603
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: You're really gonna try those guys like they don't have

604
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: anybody to stop embid. That guy will absolutely feast in

605
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: that series. They have the shooter this year, they have

606
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: better coaching. So I'll take the Sixers there. I don't

607
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: want the Clippers because I need to I need to

608
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: not just have the Lakers all in all three, I

609
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: need the Clippers in one of my positions here. So

610
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Speaker 1: I'm taking the Sixers. Clippers getting really good value. I

611
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: think at twenty to one, like, that's awesome. I get

612
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, I get a team. Let's put this way.

613
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: I get the number one team in the Eastern Conference

614
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: right now, and I get last year's preseason favorite to

615
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: win the title in the Clippers. Like I'm in a

616
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: really good spot right now. It was Clippers. So, like

617
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Speaker 1: I said, I'm likely to make money even if it's

618
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: not as fun. Brandon, what's your wild ass third pick

619
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Speaker 1: that I know you're gonna take?

620
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Speaker 5: So I was all ready here. I honestly I thought

621
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Speaker 5: you were gonna take Sixers the Lakers. It's just staring

622
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 5: at us out there. I thought that could possibly be

623
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Speaker 5: a first round pick in our draft. I think on

624
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 5: another podcast it maybe would be. I was getting ready

625
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 5: to just take a wild swing out of the blue

626
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Speaker 5: on four hundred to one, not plus four hundred, four

627
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 5: hundred to one heat MAVs. I was getting ready. I

628
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 5: was getting ready to cue it out. I'm just saying,

629
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Speaker 5: you scroll down the list, you just looking, you're looking

630
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 5: for gold down there. Couldn't you see a scenario where

631
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 5: Luca goes wild and makes the finals. Couldn't you see

632
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 5: a scenario we saw it last year where the heat

633
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 5: did it again, just same plus four hundred to one.

634
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 5: I think you could do four hundred to one, but

635
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna take it. I get out to you listeners,

636
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 5: put ten dollars on it. You make four thousand. Later

637
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,239
Speaker 5: when it doesn't happen, you'll feel really great about it,

638
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 5: Like two days out of the next two months. I'll

639
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 5: take Sixers Lakers. You're my version of bet. The narrative

640
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 5: is bet the worst thing that could happen to me,

641
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 5: the NBA fan, not Sixers Lakers. I don't want to

642
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 5: see Sixers in the finals. I don't want to see

643
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 5: Lebron in the finals. I want to see Lebron building

644
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 5: his goat case when we already know who the greatest is.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to see any of it, Joel Embiid

646
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Speaker 5: Anthony Davis. The argument here is, look, we know that

647
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Speaker 5: these teams aren't healthy bye, while everyone else is completely

648
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 5: run down from this pandemic season, and everyone is sitting

649
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 5: out left and right and whatever whatever, they're resting.

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Speaker 3: So there's the flip side.

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Speaker 5: Of the argument is Embiid and Davis and Lebron they're

652
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 5: all just sitting at home right now, resting up. Everyone

653
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 5: else is getting more and more tired by the day.

654
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 5: Maybe it flips the other way, maybe the worst. Like

655
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Speaker 5: I just I don't want to watch that finals. I

656
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 5: don't want any part of it. At least make me

657
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 5: some money off of it. It's my one position on

658
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 5: the board that I might actually win money on six

659
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 5: Ers Lakers. I had at nineteen hundred. It's only fourteen

660
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 5: hundred and actual odds, and that's what the tax built

661
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Speaker 5: in on the Lakers. I think it's actually a pretty

662
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 5: solid number on it. The books really aren't giving the

663
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Speaker 5: Sixers much respect less than we are, I think, so

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Speaker 5: I think that's the obvious pick here. I'll make the

665
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 5: obvious pick for once.

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Speaker 4: I'm see I'm a fan of both teams, so that

667
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: would be a dream come true for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why we're not the same.

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Speaker 1: That's why you're not the same. All right, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna all right. That was awesome. Love that. That

671
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Speaker 1: was a great bit. Let us know your finals matchup.

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Speaker 1: Hiss up on Twitter at Action Network HQ and tell

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Speaker 1: us what you found on this podcast that was so

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Speaker 1: great that you were like, I got the finals matchup

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Speaker 1: in the number that I want to get. Let us

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Speaker 1: know in the comments. You know, it's opening day. Brandon's

677
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Speaker 1: got his Cubs gear on ready for another year. And

678
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Speaker 1: I used to be able to make fun of the

679
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Speaker 1: Cubs and can't anymore. And I missed that because my

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00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: wife's Cubs fan and just being able to make fun

681
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Speaker 1: of her for that. But it's a great time for

682
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Speaker 1: you to be outdoors watching games as fans get back

683
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: into the into the stadiums and you can bet live.

684
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm excited to do that for Rockies games this year.

685
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686
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Speaker 1: Moving on here on the Action Network NBA podcast, time

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Speaker 1: for Back to the Future. Back to the Future. On

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Speaker 1: this segment, we talk about bets that we wish that

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Speaker 1: we had made it in the bet in the past,

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Speaker 1: and Brandon talks about things that he plans on still

711
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Speaker 1: doing now, as if he's just taken the Dolorean and

712
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: going forward in time, or if he's been told by

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Speaker 1: his future self what he's going to be doing as

714
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: he takes constant victory laps my back to the future

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Speaker 1: for this week, I guess it's Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 1: I guess we should have just bet Charlotte to win

718
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Speaker 1: the division. I don't understand. I don't get it. There's

719
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Speaker 1: seven up on the eleven seed. Guys, there's seventh up

720
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Speaker 1: on the eleven seed. They're gonna make at least a

721
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: playing like. There's almost no chance they don't make the

722
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Speaker 1: playing game. How how how is this team doing this?

723
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Speaker 2: Someone plays?

724
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Speaker 1: Explain to me how the Hornets are. I don't know

725
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: if they're good, but they win games. But I guess

726
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: I guess instead of believing in Orlando with a better

727
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: coach and a pretty good roster and all this stuff,

728
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: and their season absolutely fell apart, I should have just

729
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Speaker 1: bet Charlotte. Charlotte, of all teams, is suddenly just really awesome.

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Speaker 1: I guess we should just should have bet Charlotte.

731
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Speaker 5: Thoughts, I have no thoughts that Charlotte turns into Dame

732
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Speaker 5: Lillard at all five positions in clutch time, and I

733
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Speaker 5: don't understand it, and it's stupid and you shouldn't bet them.

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Speaker 3: Stupid bet. They shouldn't keep going.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna lose all the rest of the games.

736
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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I think I spoke on Charlotte before.

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00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 4: This team can just shoot the three. And in a

738
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Speaker 4: league where you can make the three, I think they're

739
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 4: fifth and three point shooting this year, and they're taking

740
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Speaker 4: so many of them.

741
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Speaker 2: You got a shot, and then Scary Terry is just

742
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 2: out there.

743
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Speaker 1: You know.

744
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 2: It's just I like watching them. I like watching the team.

745
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: I would just wish LaMelo's.

746
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Speaker 1: Back, all right, anybody else watch in the future.

747
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: I have one.

748
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I hate this team. I love them,

749
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 4: but I hate them. The Toronto Raptors. They were plus

750
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Speaker 4: one seventy to miss the playoffs a week and a

751
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 4: half of Cup. This team is trash. Like this team

752
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 4: over the last two weeks. They're twenty ninth of defensive rating.

753
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Speaker 4: They give it up one hundred and six points for

754
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: one hundred possessions. Last night against Oklahoma City Thunder, I

755
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: mean they were missing Shotguldess, Alexander they missing Al Horford,

756
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 4: they were missing Mike Muscala, Darius Baisley, lou Dort. They

757
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 4: still gave up one hundred and seventeen points per one

758
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Speaker 4: hundred possessions. This team is done.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I love Massiu, Jerry, I just I

760
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 2: have no idea how.

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00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 4: He butched this thing so bad. He didn't trade Kyle

762
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 4: Lowry the dead line. You know, they put all their

763
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 4: eggs in this Joannice Ostakupo from free agency, and they

764
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 4: didn't bring back Marcasol and Sergea Baka. And the interior

765
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 4: defense is really bad. Bans is horrible. I have no idea.

766
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 4: Why didn't take them to minis the playoffs last week

767
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Speaker 4: plus one seventy Right now the no is minus.

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Speaker 2: Three twenty five. Oh man, the rest of the season.

769
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: Wow, that is a move. That is a move on

770
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Speaker 1: the board. Brandon, he got one this week.

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Speaker 3: I do so.

772
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 5: I hinted at this one a couple of weeks ago

773
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 5: we did our mid season check in, and one of

774
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Speaker 5: the bets that I put to you guys was if

775
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 5: only one of them wins it, who's more likely Jordan

776
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 5: Clarkson six man or LaMelo Ball rookie of the year. Sadly,

777
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 5: like a week later, LaMelo went out for the year.

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Speaker 5: Where did you know the answer to that one? I'm

779
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Speaker 5: going on the other side. I hinted at it then.

780
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Speaker 5: I honestly think Joe Ingles might still win six Man

781
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 5: of the Year. I think Ingles is the best bench

782
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 5: player on the Jazz. I need the nerds behind me

783
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 5: on this one. I know I need the nerds, but listen,

784
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 5: a few weeks ago, this was my back to the

785
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 5: Future pick. Then we didn't get to in the segment

786
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Speaker 5: because we were already doing it earlier. It was at

787
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Speaker 5: one hundred to one for Joe Ingles at the time.

788
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 5: Here's what Joe Ingles done this season. He's shooting seventy

789
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 5: three percent through shooting. That's the highest in NBA history.

790
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 5: He's forty nine percent on three pointers, one hundred and

791
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 5: thirty seven offensive rating. He is leading the Utah Jazz

792
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Speaker 5: in box plus minus and some of those other all

793
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Speaker 5: in one stats. That's the best player on the best

794
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 5: team in the NBA by some of the nerds stats. Meanwhile,

795
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 5: since the start of February, Jordan Clarkson is shooting thirty

796
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 5: nine percent from the field under thirty three percent on

797
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 5: nine three pointers a game. Ingle's only four points a

798
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 5: game lower, He's got four and a half assists a game.

799
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 5: I saw Kevin Pelton tweeting about this the other day.

800
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 5: Joe Ingles leads and the wins above replacement. The Nerds

801
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 5: are starting to come out. Joe Ingles is gaining some traction.

802
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 5: Here's the thing. I put this on the list for

803
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 5: today to lament how I did not get to give

804
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 5: this out to you at one hundred to one odds,

805
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 5: and I looked at it today. Back to the Future

806
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,479
Speaker 5: is back to the present. Ingles is still one hundred

807
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 5: to one. Only ut bet MGM. Check the other books.

808
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 5: Another book I looked at Ingles is three thousand. He's

809
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 5: the fourth favorite. He's behind only Clarkson, Harrold and Bouchet.

810
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 5: Ingles is getting some traction. The Jazz are playing well,

811
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 5: is fading. I think there's a real shot here. Joe

812
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Speaker 5: Ingles sixth Man of the Year.

813
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: Brandon, I love you for how much you bring this

814
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Speaker 1: stuff to the table, and like I want to I do,

815
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: I do want to give you credit for talking about

816
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: Harden for MVP. Next week We're doing a big thing

817
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: on Harden's MVP chances Sporiler killer, they're they're nothing. But

818
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: but if you had bet them when Brandon had suggested

819
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: the idea, you could cash out your ticket and get

820
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: a huge return, Like you could cash out now at

821
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: the peak of his value because he's about to plummet

822
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: and you get really great value. So like, I don't

823
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Speaker 1: I don't want to just dismiss this, but I have

824
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Speaker 1: to ask you, are the books that wrong at putting

825
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: Clarkson that they're willing to go minus six point fifty

826
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: on Clarkson, Like they're that they're that wrong.

827
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Speaker 5: Look, Clarkson was over minus one thousand a couple of weeks.

828
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Speaker 1: He's still minus fourteen fifty at another book I just

829
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: looked at.

830
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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, he's there's there's he's starting to slide

831
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: just a little bet. Look, LaMelo was nearly as high

832
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 5: as a minor, and I realized that LaMelo got hurt.

833
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: It's a different they were still winning.

834
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Speaker 5: Well, you should bet at then, because he is over

835
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Speaker 5: plus two hundred.

836
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Speaker 1: And everything I will be. But you said, I just

837
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: can't see. I can't see the books being having a

838
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: guy be that big a favorite and being wrong like

839
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: the voters can be unpredictable, but they're not that unpredictable,

840
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: Like the voters are unpredictable in subtle ways, not in

841
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: like big massive like.

842
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I mean, look, I think that Engles

843
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 5: should win the award. That's not what we're betting. We

844
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 5: don't get to bet who should win the award. We

845
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 5: have to bet on the actual voters actually looking past

846
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 5: points per game, which they haven't done in history of

847
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 5: all the six Man of the Year awards. So I

848
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 5: realize that's what we're going against here. It's not who

849
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 5: should win, who's the better player, It doesn't matter what

850
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 5: the percentages are. I'm looking for a nerd and analytics

851
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 5: movement to overtake the crowds and convince our media voters

852
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 5: that it's time for nerds to win out. That's the

853
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 5: argument here. It's one hundred doer one. That's the only

854
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 5: reason I'm willing to make it. It's a long shot.

855
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: This is what you're.

856
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 4: Gonna only you're gonna have to make a big bet

857
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 4: yourself and manipulate the market.

858
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: I have a story.

859
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 4: A couple of weeks ago, before Lebron got hurt, I

860
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Speaker 4: had some friends who put down big money on Lebron

861
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 4: James went Defensive Player of the Year, and then who's

862
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: the guy? Nick Wright started talking about it, and then

863
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 4: the odds drastically moved so and then you have this

864
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 4: big media push, so it's like you're gonna have to

865
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 4: manipulate the Martians yourself and then get somebody big to

866
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 4: talk about it, and then I think that's how it

867
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 4: becomes a thing.

868
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 5: But otherwise, what I'm doing right now, this is by

869
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 5: the way, I played Lebron Defensive Player of the Year

870
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 5: also five hundred one.

871
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: I like it.

872
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: I'm mad. I'll tell you this is a DPO. Why

873
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: I bet Simmons in preseason, I feel like I just

874
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: feel like he should be it Like I still like

875
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: I stand by that, and he's not gonna win, Like

876
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna win, and it's gonna make me mad.

877
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: Like this is when you're right, Like there's no way

878
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: to break the narrative that Rudy is like the God.

879
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: There's just no way.

880
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 5: I remember before the season you specifically said the best

881
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 5: defensive player will be Ben Simmons. But I'm usually a

882
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 5: year ahead on this, and I think that both of

883
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 5: those parts are right. He is the best defensive player.

884
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 5: I think that who's actually going to win your year

885
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 5: ahead on it, and like Simmons will end up winning

886
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 5: the next year or two when we catch up on it.

887
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 5: I think he's got a shot, but you know it

888
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 5: it requires the jazz like falling off or something, which

889
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 5: it doesn't look like it's gonna happen.

890
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: The crazy thing is like the Sixers defense has been better.

891
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna say that they're better without him,

892
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 4: b but since he's been out, they've been. Yeah, the

893
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 4: numbers are better, like since he's left, and it's just

894
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 4: like Ben Simmons has just been playing fantastic defensively and

895
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 4: it's just like I can't believe nobody's seen it.

896
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: Right, all right. Last segment here on the Action Network

897
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: NBA podcast is called thanks for Nothing, from which we

898
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: talk about teams that failed to both win and cover.

899
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: Good teams win and great teams cover, but some teams

900
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: do neither. This is thanks for Nothing.

901
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: It's too light, it's too late, So we really did.

902
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: Job so this season. My team for this week is

903
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: thanks for Nothing. San Antonio Spurs. So this season, the

904
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: Spurs have only guess how many times out of their

905
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: entire season, the Spurs have lost a second quarter?

906
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 2: How many times?

907
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, Ray fifteen, you are too lower? Heem right,

908
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: almost almost spot on? Fourteen times? Fourteen times? You know

909
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: how many times that they've won that quarter. It's way

910
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: more they've won. They are automatic in second quarter as

911
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: I bet them continuously and have been profitable. And I

912
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: don't mean to complain about it, given that they are

913
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: now twenty eight and fourteen for me, I get it,

914
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. However, however, I bet

915
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: them versus Charlotte the other night, and I know, I know,

916
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: I know I shouldn't do this. I know I shouldn't

917
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: it shouldn't bet Charlotte. I understand. I've told the group

918
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: I have to stop doing this. They caught me again,

919
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: and I just I just I just don't understand. I

920
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: just don't understand how this happens. And then having the

921
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: other night they reminded they ask for my fourteen points

922
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: the other night in the second quarter, and it's just like,

923
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: I just need you to be a little more consistent. First,

924
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: just like a little time. I know you're you've been

925
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: good to me. I'm appreciative. It's like a little bit better.

926
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: It's not fair.

927
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: It's not fair.

928
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: Brandon Wichard, thanks for nothing this week.

929
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 5: So look, I know this is an NBA podcast, but

930
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 5: I'm still drowning in brackets over here.

931
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 3: So here we go.

932
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 5: Thanks for nothing, Big ten basketball. Chigan State should have

933
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 5: knocked out UCLA in the freaking playing game before they

934
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 5: even made the real tournament. They were up late. They

935
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 5: couldn't do it. Michigan couldn't score fifty against UCLA and

936
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 5: make the final four, so we got a real game

937
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 5: against Gonzaga. Ohio State couldn't beat Oral Roberts, Oral Roberts.

938
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 5: Rutgers blued against Houston. Now we had to watch them

939
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 5: in the final four. Purdue lost the first round. I

940
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 5: alway gave up like three hundred to Oregon. They burned

941
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 5: down my bracket. They burned me in Survivor like multiple times.

942
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 5: They burned me everywhere. I didn't even believe in the

943
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 5: Big Ten and the still burned me. Thanks for nothing,

944
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 5: everything about you, Big Ten basketball.

945
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: But it's not fair.

946
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: Can't just say sorry and make it all go away.

947
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: It's too late.

948
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: It's not that easy. It's not fair for him much.

949
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: And thanks for nothing this week.

950
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 4: You know, you know I've been playing totals most of

951
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 4: the season. I'm hitting fifty five per cent of the season,

952
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 4: which is, you know, pretty good edge.

953
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 2: But last night was rough.

954
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 4: I was two and three on totals, probably should have

955
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: been four one, but the Nets and the Rockets total

956
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 4: died in the second half. They were on pace for

957
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 4: about two hundred and forty something points. They end up

958
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 4: scoring two twenty eight. The total was two thirty. And

959
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 4: then I had to over on the Spurs and the

960
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 4: Kings that was on pace for about two forty five

961
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 4: that died in the second half. They end up scoring

962
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 4: two twenty six. Over was two thirty. So I you know,

963
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 4: a four to one day turns into a two and

964
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 4: three day.

965
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny on that.

966
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: So I've got an app that it's called line Swings

967
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: and it's I read a really great Reddit post that

968
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: talked about it, did a breakdown of how often lining

969
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: versions in the second quarter, and to correlate, like if

970
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: the line swings from a dog to a favorite bet

971
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: that new favorite bet the team that was the dog

972
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: at the new number, at the lowest number you can

973
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: get it, and the rates pretty good. And I've been

974
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: doing that consistently and it's profitable. I stayed away from

975
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: Rockets nets specifically because I was like, this is a

976
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: hot start from an emotionally amp team playing their old

977
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: old teammate. This is good, Like I can't trust I

978
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: can't trust Houston, and I know the nets of the

979
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: ability to like ramp up on both sides of the

980
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: ball at any point. Like that was what I was

981
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: very proud of myself for staying away from Houston nets

982
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: last night. I was like, I bet I bet Rockets

983
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: first half because I figured there was gonna be a

984
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: push in the beginning, and Houston's been sneaky good in

985
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: the first half since Wood got back. Bet that and

986
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: just took my winnings and left it alone. I was

987
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: very proud to walk away from that one. So that's

988
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: a uh, that's a that's a thanks for something me.

989
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: That's what that is, you know, you know the thing

990
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: is for me with these Rockets totals.

991
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 4: I've been playing their unders all year, but I think

992
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 4: the addition of Kelly olennok, Avery Bradley, DJ Augusty and

993
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 4: then even getting Christian Will that they're actually competent now.

994
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 4: So it's just like they've gone over in two out

995
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 4: of their last three games. So it's just like I've been,

996
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 4: you know, kind of zagging after you know, zigging for

997
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 4: so long and playing all these unders. I've been kind

998
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 4: of jumping on their overs because I mean they can

999
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 4: act the score at this point.

1000
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just didn't work out for me last night.

1001
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: All right, that's going to wrap it up for the

1002
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: Action Network NBA Podcast. Thanks for joining us. We'll be

1003
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: back next week with another episode. Make sure stay tuned

1004
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: throughout the week as we get you set for the

1005
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: Final Four with Stucky in the crew, we'll get your

1006
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: set set for Opening Day, and baseball is back, we'll

1007
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: get your set for the NFL to draft, all of

1008
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: that stuff on the Action Network Podcast. Thanks for joining us.

1009
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Speaker 1: Our thanks to Matt Mitchell, our producer, and we'll off

1010
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: to you guys again next time on the Action Network

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00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: NBA Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We're finished talking