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Speaker 1: origion poet, Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered. And then the snow

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Speaker 1: at which point they found somebody face down in their

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Speaker 1: so in common. This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered is Tuesday here at

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Speaker 1: Gilette Stadium and the gangs all back in the studio.

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Speaker 1: It's Deuce, it's Evan, Deuson, Evan back from the combine, Paul, myself,

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Speaker 1: Matt and the booth and uh, like I said, uh,

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Speaker 1: Deuce and Evan are back from the combine, so they'll

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Speaker 1: have their war stories, their breakdowns of what their takeaways

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot to talk about in terms

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Speaker 1: of the quarterback movement. Franchise tag is coming up today

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Speaker 1: at four o'clock. The uh Tony Poler is getting getting

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Speaker 1: a lot going on, um thick, it should be a

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Speaker 1: good show. But off the top, Deuson Evan, you know, um,

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Speaker 1: have to because they put the quarterbacks, the wide receivers

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Speaker 1: But they moved the quarterbacks, the wide receivers and head

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Speaker 1: ends to Friday, so then they worked out Saturday. So

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Speaker 1: when we were leaving Saturday, you were just seeing all

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Speaker 1: some guys hate it and can be pissed they don't

423
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Speaker 1: like it. Why they don't like it, But for a quarterback,

424
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Speaker 1: I would be a little bit more open minded about it.

425
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Speaker 1: As a player. The other positions I would need money,

426
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Speaker 1: all the other positions, I would hate it, so probably

427
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Speaker 1: like Kickers. So so in your mind, do you think

428
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Speaker 1: Jackson's really kind of out of the conversation about movement.

429
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Speaker 1: I think so, I think so until you start to

430
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Speaker 1: hear it going south. I mean, he's in it. All

431
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Speaker 1: of those teams would be interested in here. Oh yeah, yeah,

432
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Speaker 1: that's why you. I mean, I just wonder if there

433
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Speaker 1: are any teams maybe purposely dragging their feet just to

434
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Speaker 1: see a little bit. And I guess, I guess rich

435
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 1: Eisen kind of, you know, broached the idea of Brady

436
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Speaker 1: not being done and going to Miami. I don't know

437
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Speaker 1: where that's one. I think that to Evans, I don't

438
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Speaker 1: know where he's I don't know where he's getting there.

439
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 1: But he brought it up on his show yesterday. I

440
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Speaker 1: believe is it three o'clock, that's what I could see

441
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Speaker 1: Evans scenario. I'm just saying, a bunch of guys hanging out,

442
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I saw Brady. He looks

443
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: like he's in shade, he secause you just kind of

444
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: a brand. Like imagine, I'm running TV twelve and he's

445
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 1: got like this big gun. You know what I can

446
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Speaker 1: see that scenario unfolding, and Rich Eyes was a guy

447
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Speaker 1: who's dan. He's talking, man, but nobody's saying specifically, you

448
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Speaker 1: know what I'm hearing Brady's coming back. I'm not. I

449
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 1: don't dismiss anything. Yeah, but that one, to me was

450
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Speaker 1: so vague. One of the things, one of my number

451
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Speaker 1: one takeaways from the combine was I don't think Brady's

452
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Speaker 1: necessarily done. Okay, is there anything to that? Like any reason?

453
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Speaker 1: Why did anyone see the report that he was considering

454
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Speaker 1: a career in stand up comedy like a week and

455
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Speaker 1: a half now, so that that was he was doing

456
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Speaker 1: a promo. He's doing all right, and that's going to

457
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: be brutal. Yeah, are they roasting him? I think it's

458
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,239
Speaker 1: like a roast series type thing. I don't know if

459
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: he's definitely involved. I don't know if. I mean, he's

460
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Speaker 1: a great roast, but roaster, yeah, I don't know about that.

461
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'd be a great roast. I

462
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 1: get to just get pissed, get up, just like you are,

463
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: pull the tablecloth off off the day the dais and

464
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: run out like Brian Moore. You imagine if you're roasted

465
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Speaker 1: Brian Moore I'm not mad, but I'm gonna get you right. Oh,

466
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: it'll never end, It'll never end. But but I don't

467
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Speaker 1: think anybody truly ruled up. I mean I didn't completely

468
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Speaker 1: ever rule him out. And until he goes to season

469
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Speaker 1: without I think he should retired. And I thought it

470
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Speaker 1: was different this time than last time. But I don't

471
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Speaker 1: I don't rule it up. No, he's too competitive. I

472
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Speaker 1: just I think he's the classic example of a guy

473
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Speaker 1: who's going to get out of the league and be like,

474
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Speaker 1: I have no outlet for this crazy hyper competitive drive

475
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Speaker 1: that I have and you know, beating my kids in

476
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Speaker 1: like game Xbox or it's not gonna do it, Like

477
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: I need something else. And don't you think Miami is

478
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Speaker 1: in the back of his mind like it has been

479
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Speaker 1: for a couple of years. And now if they get

480
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Speaker 1: to the point where to a situation is untenable, then

481
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: they say say, hey, listen, you're a free agent. You're

482
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: not taking anyone's job. Even this guy looks like he

483
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. Offensively, McDaniel, look what you have

484
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: to throw to Yeah, right, and I can stick it

485
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Speaker 1: to Giselle. And by the way, we're gonna give you

486
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Speaker 1: two percent of the team. Well they could, they can't

487
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Speaker 1: do that and have him play. Now, well, they'd have

488
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Speaker 1: to factor it into the cap as a compensation. But

489
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Speaker 1: but then you then you can make it a ten

490
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Speaker 1: year term and we have to and I see that's

491
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Speaker 1: I mean, but but like that sucks as a Patriots fan,

492
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady's gonna have an ownership interest in the Dogs. Listen,

493
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Speaker 1: even if it's even without the ownership. I was thrilled

494
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Speaker 1: that he was gonna keep playing with Tampa Bay. I

495
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: would be pissed if he went and played for Miami.

496
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Speaker 1: He's like just because it's a division team. Yeah, yeah,

497
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Speaker 1: that makes sense. He's like in the ownership box and

498
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: like a teal in white suit every game. You not

499
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: all of frist is irrational, that's rational. I hate Miami too. Yeah, yeah,

500
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Speaker 1: I love the fit. I don't oh no, not not

501
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Speaker 1: his type of offense. Like they'd have to completely change

502
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Speaker 1: a lot of their their fundamental concepts. Like he's not

503
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Speaker 1: gonna run bootlegs. No, but can those guys get open fast?

504
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Speaker 1: I think so. Definitely. It's a completely different system. I

505
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Speaker 1: mean you're acting like it's, you know, built it out

506
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Speaker 1: of concrete. I mean I'm actually I just don't. I

507
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Speaker 1: don't do they have I don't know if McDaniel can

508
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Speaker 1: do it. Do they give me, give me Brady take

509
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Speaker 1: the system? Do they have guys that can get open fast? Yes?

510
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Speaker 1: And can Brady get them the ball? Yes? I think

511
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Speaker 1: I think you wouldjust the system. I don't think McDaniel's

512
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Speaker 1: up for it. No, I think he'd be just fine. Like,

513
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Speaker 1: you don't have to have him run bootlegs and everything

514
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Speaker 1: like that would be stupid to have him trying to

515
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Speaker 1: throw the ball on the move. You definitely have to

516
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Speaker 1: scrap those pages to the playbook. But I think I

517
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: could come up with something with you know, Hill and

518
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Speaker 1: Wattle and who's the tight end? Gasecki he's oh he's

519
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Speaker 1: a free agent, but is two now we have to

520
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: make it? Are they trying to make a decision on

521
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Speaker 1: five fifth year for two US now? Yeah? Until May? Yeah? Interesting? Yeah, Yeah,

522
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Speaker 1: that's one that I could definitely see going the other way. Yeah,

523
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Speaker 1: what are we looking at? No socks? It's funny. We're

524
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Speaker 1: getting off the plane and Evan we had a wonderful

525
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: week in India, wonderful week and like date or something

526
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Speaker 1: that's no socks, right, doesn't wear socks. Well, no, no,

527
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Speaker 1: The thing with Matt is when he wears shoes, he

528
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: doesn't wear socks. When he wears sneakers, he does the

529
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Speaker 1: thumbs up from behind the producer, right, Craft Sports and Entertainment.

530
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Speaker 1: That's good stuff, all right. Yeah, so I'm so the

531
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Speaker 1: foot So the quarterback movement is still out there. I

532
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Speaker 1: just love that part of it. Yeah, this is like

533
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: five years in a row. It just changes an entire

534
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,239
Speaker 1: dynamic of a team instantly and just makes you rethink, well,

535
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: it's used to have, like the other sports have this

536
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: like enormous hot stove, and now the NFL is dominating

537
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: in that that way, it was the one thing the

538
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: NFL didn't have, and now even that is dominated by

539
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: the NFL. Like, what do you think is going through

540
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: the mind of Jordan Love right now? Oh God, I'll

541
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Speaker 1: give you my take. This is one that I have

542
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: absolutely no fact to make it. Back it up. I

543
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: think he knows he's the starting quarterback. Yeah, because that's

544
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Speaker 1: what I think. Like going to McCarthy or whoever's the

545
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Speaker 1: head of that team, I don't know that the floor. No, no,

546
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Speaker 1: not the head coach. I mean the the guy that's

547
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Speaker 1: in charge of the good and Coush tout and cooush. Yeah,

548
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: but saying, listen, you know I'm through waiting, you know, like,

549
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Speaker 1: make me the starting quarterback, get rid of him, and

550
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Speaker 1: let's go. I'm Jordan's freaking Love here. I'm dying. I

551
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: mean in the game, I like out, but like me,

552
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: you trade me, you know, trade me right now. I

553
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: think they have already made the decision in their minds.

554
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: They're just waiting for Aaron Rodgers to get on board

555
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: and figure out where he wants to go. That's what

556
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: I think. But what if he want to stay? He's

557
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: playing Footsie's with the Jets? Yeah, what if? What if

558
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers says, now, you know what, I want to stay.

559
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't think the Packers to sit over there and

560
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: watch Jordan Love play. Yeah, that's what I if. I

561
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: agree with Evan. I don't think the Packers wanted to stay.

562
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: And that's how you get rid of them. Yeah, yeah,

563
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: you can stay, we'll pay you, but you're not gonna play.

564
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Speaker 1: What a situation? What are bay again? Yeah? I think

565
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Speaker 1: I really think, like maybe Jordan Love is going to

566
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: be good. But if he isn't, I think that the

567
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: Packers could really it could be a sinking ship. It

568
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: could be the same thing as the Patriots the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't even think they'll be like

570
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Speaker 1: middle middle link like the Patres have been. I think

571
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: they'd be like a four win team. I think they'd

572
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: be like the Cam Newton Patriots terrible. Even even the

573
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Speaker 1: Cam Newton Patriots weren't a four win team, all right,

574
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: they won seven? Okay, Yeah, so that really I like

575
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Speaker 1: with Shawn Garry, it isn't the draft order. Yeah, it's

576
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Speaker 1: a great quarterback class next start or two. I mean,

577
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Speaker 1: I think that um, Green Bay is I'm with Evan.

578
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: I think Green Bay has decided they want to move

579
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Speaker 1: on now. If it turns out that Rogers can still

580
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: play right and at Love can't, it's gonna be just

581
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: like the Patriots situation, and they're gonna get a lot

582
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: of criticism for intentionally pulling the plug before they had to.

583
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: But I think I think, just like the Patriots, they're

584
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, if Rogers leaves and Love isn't the guy,

585
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna find out, like a lot of teams do,

586
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Speaker 1: how much that quarterback actually meant to win. And the

587
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: only thing I would say, in Green Bay's defense over

588
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: in New England's at least they had a plan. They

589
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: had they had a guy on like on the team

590
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: that they drafted in the first round. They developed for

591
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: a couple of years, and they're ready to put you know,

592
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: hand the range. So now there's no guarantees that he

593
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: can play, right, But the Patriots had nothing right, no,

594
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: I know, and then eight years later they pulled the

595
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: plug on Brady. Brady screwed it up by keep staying good.

596
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but we winning, yeah, you know, didn't care

597
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: for it, you know, yeah, I wanted to start over.

598
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 1: So all right, all that's on the table. Eight five

599
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: five Pats five hundred is the A sticket hot line,

600
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: web radio at Patriots dot com is the email address. Yeah. So,

601
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, locally, like the Bruins and the Celtics have

602
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: been dominating the headlines, it's a little bit the Red Sox,

603
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 1: you know, because they're starting to play exhibition ball. But uh,

604
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: I got a feeling like Patriots are you know, in football,

605
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: are going to start becoming front and center really quickly. Again.

606
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm really feeling the week that they pushed the Super

607
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: Bowl back right now because it just feels like we

608
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: were just at the combine and now it's like free

609
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 1: agency is right on the doorstep, and next week's going

610
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: to be crazy with all the movements. I mean starting

611
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean probably over the weekend, right, Like we'll probably

612
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: start to hear like, yeah, rumblings over the weekend and

613
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: then you'll really start to get reports on Monday. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just really kind of condensed and

615
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: packed in between, you know, especially for US Shrine Bowl,

616
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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, Combine, free agency, and you know then you're

617
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: gonna hit this dead period for for a month and

618
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: a half until the draft. So it's just it's just interesting.

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Speaker 1: New schedule just feels a little bit more dense to

620
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Speaker 1: me than than before. I mean a difference. I think

621
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Speaker 1: there's people in the league that feel that way, really,

622
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: and they would prefer to push free agency back a

623
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks and push the draft back maybe into

624
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Speaker 1: early May and give some more time because I think

625
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Speaker 1: a big reason why the Patriots coaching staff wasn't really

626
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: front and center in Indianapolis is because of how condensed

627
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: everything is. So it's do you go to the combine

628
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Speaker 1: and waste your time, not waste your time, but spend

629
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Speaker 1: your time on meetings and why guys run a forty

630
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: yard dash? Or do you stay here and watch film

631
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Speaker 1: of free agents? Right? Like, that's it's a difficult decision

632
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: to make, I think for a lot of teams and

633
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: focus on your in person one on one workouts and

634
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: interviews and all. And I wonder if because there's a

635
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: lot of different things that have been thrown out there,

636
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: and I think there's probably some truth to all of them.

637
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: And they've talked about the changes to the Combine schedule itself,

638
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: like having all the you know this now it's completely

639
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: geared to NFL network at night, and that doesn't really

640
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: that's not really conducive for the teams, so it sort

641
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: of cuts into their time their productivity, And like Evan said,

642
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: why not just stay back and do the work here

643
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: as opposed to sitting in your hotel and doing the work.

644
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: You can watch the workouts at night, you know, on TV.

645
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: And then I just think that's it's sort of a

646
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: growing d emphasis of the entire process. Which was funny

647
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: because I thought the hype of the players this year

648
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: was through the roof more so maybe it's because I

649
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: wasn't there and maybe I was more like seeing more

650
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: of it as opposed to just sort of being there

651
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: and then someone, you know, Mike will say like, hey,

652
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: do you see what they said about Scarronsky And they're like, no,

653
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. Now you're sort of seeing

654
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: everything they said about Scarronsky as it happens. So maybe

655
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: I feel like it's more hype and it isn't. But

656
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean that that Anthony Richardson stuff about him jumping,

657
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, what are we doing here? Like what

658
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: does that have to do with being a quarterback? Like, yeah,

659
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: it happens every year. But the over emphasis on the testing,

660
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: I know, doesn't really line up with a d emphasis

661
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: on the amount of coaches there. And I also think

662
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots presence at the Shrine Bowl into a lesser

663
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: extent the Senior Bowl. At some point, something's got to

664
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: go that we have to prepare. We like, Toaven's point,

665
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: we got to watch some of these free agents and

666
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: figure out what direction and figure out our pro day schedule.

667
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: Do you think that reaction though the testing is kind

668
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: of more a fan blogger kind of thing than teams,

669
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: like you know, like I think teams That's a great

670
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: question because I don't know all the names of the people.

671
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: You know, you guys do because you're more in that world,

672
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: Like is that what it is the guys that are

673
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: tweeting about this stuff more though this is a fan

674
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: blogger types. This is a media driven event at this point.

675
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: Is it a television show? Yes, it has nothing to

676
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: do with the teams. It's just And that's why I

677
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: love it is because it gives us something to cover

678
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: in the middle of the offseason that we wouldn't normally

679
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: have anything to make fun of it. Like listen, I

680
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: was there Rover like twenty I was twenty years in

681
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: a row doing that thing, and I listen, it's it

682
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: was monotonous. There's a plaque on the webber grill, no doubt.

683
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: There's definitely a middle like Bradley were sitting spent about

684
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: eight hours watching the combine at the bar another like

685
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to come off like literally I'm above that. No,

686
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: And like no, I did it and I got something

687
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: out of it every year. I went every year. But

688
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: it's a content driven driving machine. And I would also

689
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: say that teams now have access to all this like

690
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: Zebra technology or next gen where they can actually track

691
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: how fast guys are moving in game, and so they

692
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: don't need the forty because they can sit there and say,

693
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: the game, you know they're getting JSN ran a top

694
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: speed of twenty miles an hour on this catch and run.

695
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: You know that's what he can open up to in

696
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: a game. So you know, I'm right while I was

697
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: getting chased by the defense, So why do we need

698
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: the forty yard dash? But for somebody like me that

699
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: doesn't have access to that type of stuff, the combine

700
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: can confirm a lot of priors, like this guy's not

701
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: very fast. This guy is very fast, and I see

702
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: him put up a good forty time, and then I

703
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: can sit there and say, okay, well that they translated

704
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: he's got legit speed, and I get used to back

705
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: in the day before all this technology came up, I

706
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: was laughing, who was the guard? I don't know if

707
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: it was even defensive offense. He ran like a four

708
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: seven like he was trucking? Was it osiris torres? I forget?

709
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: But they're like, oh my god, look at this guy,

710
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, like, okay, when's he going to run

711
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: a forty yard Yeah? Well what about the poor offensive

712
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: lineman that torres. So offensive line's all about the ten

713
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: yards split. Yeah, right, so that first ten yards is

714
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: like it measures your explosiveness out of your stance and

715
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: like off the line of scrimmage, so that that ten

716
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: yards split is more important. So I've always thought, why

717
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: attack on the extra like make them let them run

718
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: a flying twenty, right, because like, why why run a

719
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: full forty? They're not going to run a full forty,

720
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: And all it does is get guys hurt. Like every

721
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: year somebody gets hurt running a three hundred ten pound

722
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: lineman running forty yards as fast as he can pulls

723
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: a hamstring or something like that. So the lineman can

724
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: run twenty yards, let's see what they are in the

725
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: first ten yards. I really think that they should tailor

726
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: the drills to the position. Yeah, I mean the like

727
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: on field stuff other than the running and jumping stuff.

728
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: I mean they do. And I think that's you know,

729
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: some of the fun of just seeing how athletic these

730
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: guys are, at least for like you know, Roderick Jones

731
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: and Paris Johnson, the two top tackles, Like you just

732
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: see how athletic I really need to know how many

733
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: like kicksteps and you know, doing their thing, But how

734
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: many bench presses a quarterback do? Man? You know, no,

735
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: but that you know, But I think those things too

736
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: for some of the other positions show what guys a

737
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: lot of them don't do that hit the way Brady Quinn.

738
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: There are some certain thresholds though that still hold up.

739
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: Like and it's more specific, I would say, than it is.

740
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: You know, ten yards split for offensive linemen or agility

741
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: drills for receivers and corners like that type of stuff.

742
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: You know, three cone short shuttle like those things still produced,

743
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, explosive in the jumps, Like if you have

744
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: a great vertical then you're probably a pretty explosive guy

745
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: in your lower half. Like that stuff does I think translate.

746
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: But I think it more educates us, like the media

747
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: and people like me that cover the draft than it does.

748
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: I think the teams already know all this stuff going

749
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: into the combine. They don't need to combine. It's into it.

750
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: But but that sends that's said. I think you know,

751
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: Bryce Young was listed at six foot in Alabama and

752
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: he came in at five ten, right, you know, the

753
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: measurements are big. I stood next to him, and I'm tall.

754
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm officially five eleven and a half and

755
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: I was like, i'mgger than yeah, like I did five

756
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: ten and three quarters or something like that, an eighth.

757
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: He's small, he's like fun, He's like Kyler Yeah, he's

758
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: he's really small. And he doesn't run like Kyla Murray

759
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: no either. I feel like he's an Aaron Rodgers type

760
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: athlete though, like that kind of just natural oh athletic skill.

761
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: He's great off platform. I think he does have a

762
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: little bit of Mahomes to his ability to extend plays

763
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: and make plays outside the pocket. I don't think he's

764
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: got the arm that Mahomes has, but he has that

765
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: ability to just like that magician, you know, slip out

766
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: of a sack and get on the outside. I mean

767
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: it's a great example though. We were watching it, I

768
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: think at the airport, and they did you know. I

769
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: love when they do the forties and they match up

770
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: like guys from all time, you know, like that like

771
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: the technology. I just think that's so cool. You can

772
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: see guys from the past run And they showed Anthony Richardson,

773
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: but then they showed like Patrick Holmes would even like

774
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: a four eight yeah, and you're like, oh, man, like

775
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, Like it doesn't matter. The guy can play,

776
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: he can run. And where did you ever see Patrick

777
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: Mahomes running for a first down and get chased down

778
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: from behind? Nope, nope, he's not. He's not overly fast, right,

779
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: but he's got the same forty speed as Mac Jones.

780
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: He has football speed. Yeah, yeah, he does all right.

781
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: Eight five five past five hundred is the as Ticket

782
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: Hotline web radio at Patrice dot com. Let's get to

783
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 1: our listeners see what's on their mind. Patty's an agawam

784
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: on the as Ticket Hotline. What's up, Patty? Hey, it's

785
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: up everyone. Hey Batty, I wanted to throw a couple

786
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: of questions at you. With Orlando Brown not being franchised,

787
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: I've been I've been on this guy's wagon for I

788
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: think like a couple of seasons. Now. I'd love to

789
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: see the Patriots draft him, I mean find him a

790
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: free agency. I wanted to get your opinion on whether

791
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: you guys would want to draft a younger tackle or

792
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: to possibly sign this blocked back by yup? Do both

793
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: prove and he can play? Do both? And yeah, I

794
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't mind getting the right tackle two later on.

795
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, any any Himians two one, possibly Rashad Bateman

796
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: who seems to be disgruntled. Oh um, I mean, I'll

797
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: just go at the top. I'm not really in love

798
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: with any of the free agent stuff, but I would

799
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: be okay investing in a tackle. I don't love Orlando Brown,

800
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: but in free agency, I don't just throw that out there.

801
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: Tell me why. I don't know, not not only my

802
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: kind of guy. I didn't like coming out big. I

803
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: just prefer big. Um. I just I got a hard

804
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: time with the tackles in this class. I don't think.

805
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: I don't think that the top two guys are gonna

806
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: get there. I'm off Skeronsky now I think Evan's still

807
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: on him. Um. You know, I think you're gonna have

808
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: to look at your at your second pick potentially for that,

809
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate. I'd love to have those top two guys.

810
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: So I I just I think I'm pulling back on

811
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: the whole tackle thing. I definitely still want to draft one.

812
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: I think there's some good depth in there, but i'd

813
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: be okay going free agency. I know, I know the

814
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: knock on Scarronsky is his arm length, But can he

815
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: make up for that with foot? You know, quick feet,

816
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, great, great feet. Yeah, great, So

817
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: this would be probably a good little thing that me

818
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: and Evan could probably argue about. My thing was to

819
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: be great because I'm gonna throw Kerosene on the fire. No,

820
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: I think killed. He'll agree me, though. My thing with

821
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: Scaranty is, you took a guard in the first round

822
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: last year. You can't miss again. All right now. I

823
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: know he'll probably be okay, but you cannot miss on

824
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: this pick and end up with guard Peter Scronsky. Yeah,

825
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a death sentence for this office.

826
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: You can't do it. If you want him to play

827
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: tackle and he can't play tackle. I agree, right, But

828
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: I also agree when Rashawn Slater same school a couple

829
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: of years ago, a lot of people said the same thing,

830
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: and he's been a really good tack That's fine. You

831
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: can take you took your you took your swing on

832
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: offensive line last year. But they're gonna take a swing

833
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: on Cole Strange as a tackle. No, they took a

834
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: swing on an offensive line. So if they don't think

835
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: that your guy can play tackle, then I would wholeheartedly

836
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: be on team Deuce. I don't want to take a

837
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: guard at fourteen. But for me, it's too much of

838
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: a risk. I think you I just I don't. I

839
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: don't want to do it. I'd rather I think there

840
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: are other needs. I think there are other players, and

841
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: I like the kid, but I just think you need talent.

842
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: This is where you get talent. This is the highest

843
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: Peaky had and you're gonna take one on a guy

844
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: who can probably play tackle for you, all right? Was

845
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: that the biggest problem last year? Because we couldn't protect

846
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: mac Jones enough? That was the problem, Like everybody says,

847
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean they're right tackle situation was a problem. It was,

848
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: But you don't think mc dermott off the Jets practice

849
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: squad was the best right tackle that they had. And

850
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: you know, I know they resigned him and he'll be

851
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: great depth. But I hope we're not settled on him

852
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: at But I'm not interested in paying twenty plus million

853
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: for Orlando Brown annually and using a first round pick

854
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: on a tackle like that's a lot of no cats. No,

855
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: that's silly, that's silly. So you know there's value in

856
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: having the it's a premium position. Right, So there's value

857
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: in having it on a rookie contract just in itself. Now,

858
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: you have to have a good player, so you can't

859
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: just look at it just that way. But I think

860
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: the tackles in this draft, I do agree with Mike

861
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: on this. I we might disagree a little bit on Scronsky,

862
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: but I agree that they're kind of in the middle

863
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: right now of the tackle class where they're probably gonna

864
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: miss out on Broder Jones and Paris Johnson, but they're

865
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: probably a little bit you early for the next wave

866
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: of tackles as well. So this might be a vintage

867
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: Belichick trade down draft, right. It might be, And that's

868
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: fine if that's the way it unfolds, because and this

869
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: is part of like what makes it hard. Everybody just says, like,

870
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, let's take Scronsky in the first round, let's

871
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: take Jones in the first round. It that's great when

872
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: they're available. The part of the draft that's really hard

873
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: is identifying what everybody else is going to do. Right, Okay,

874
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: there are a lot of teams, I think, without knowing anything,

875
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: there are a lot of teams that need tackles in

876
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: front of them. Yep, Yeah, that's a problem. Yep, go ahead.

877
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: Why it's head. If you get the quarterbacks off the board,

878
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: maybe someone that needs to tackle takes go ahead, Daddy Richardson. Yeah,

879
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, let's not forget that out of Orlando

880
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: Brown senior in Cleveland too, so he's got you know,

881
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: probably got a little bit better insight on him, on

882
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: him than maybe most other teams. Yeah, yeah, I'm terrified

883
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: of giving Orlando Brown a big contra. I just like

884
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: big guy. Why why is he going on his third team? Yeah?

885
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: That Kansas City re ups him because they felt like

886
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: he fit in well with them. That makes sense to me.

887
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: They had him, but Baltimore and I know that Baltimore

888
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: had Ronnie Stanley before he got hurt. They kind of

889
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: when they let this all happen or you know, as

890
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: that was happening. But to me, three teams in what

891
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: six years? That to me is I just feel like

892
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: a guy with twenty plus million, that's it's gonna cost

893
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: you a lot of money. He got franchised. Yeah, so

894
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: it's not like you're gonna like get him, you know

895
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: in the favorite Patriot fan way. Can we get him

896
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: in on on a team friendly contract? Every single ASPFW

897
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: we get now has the term team friendly or a

898
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: one year prove it deal. Those phrases are in every question.

899
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: Why is that all we want? Right? I just feel

900
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: like when you are that size, if your foot speed

901
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: starts to decline, because you already don't have great foot speed,

902
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: and if your foot speed starts to decline at all,

903
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: then you get your whole game goes. And if you're

904
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: the team that's paying him for four or five years

905
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: at a high number, I just I like, I really

906
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: like the right tackles in free agency, though I think

907
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith a free agent now, No, I think mcglinchy

908
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: and uh and Caleb McGarry from Atlanta could come in

909
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: and play right tackle for the Patriots at a really

910
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: high level. So I like those two guys. McGarry's a

911
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: guy that I think would make some sense too, I

912
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: think but glinchy might be a little too expensive too.

913
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: But like I get, you know, and I wouldn't be

914
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be pissed off if they signed McGlinchey. I

915
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: think that feels a need. I mean, that would be

916
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: a good target. You know, a good player, give him

917
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: the money and he comes in. I look at mcglinchy too,

918
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: is feels your need. He was the ninth overall pick

919
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: in his draft. It's a Stefan Gilmour, right, Like you

920
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: loved him in the draft, but you weren't high enough

921
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: in the draft to take him, and now you get

922
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: him in free agency. That's the right I would go.

923
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I know Trump Brown has some

924
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: awarts and some question marks. Trump Brown, mcglinchy done. You know,

925
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: maybe grab a guy well done third round season and

926
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: then we'll go tap the Jets to practice. I know

927
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: I didn't Trump roun play the whole season last year. Yeah,

928
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: but how many games did he play but didn't play

929
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: half the season? How many games did he not come

930
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: out on the field for games? It's starting to snap

931
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: before it even started. It's a good point, though, but

932
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: about maybe you plug and play at right tackle and

933
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: then you use Trent somewhere as a stop gap either

934
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: on the left or the right side, and then you

935
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: draft like a Jaalen Duncan or a Tyler Steen or

936
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: something like that on Day two and that's more of

937
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: your long term, hopefully long term fit at tackle. Did

938
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: you take a receiver that's sexy Thompson Connecticut. What's up,

939
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: Tom's stay, guys, what you're doing good? Hey? Hey, So, um,

940
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: I just had a question for you guys. So, I know,

941
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: we picked up Time Montgomery last year and he's been injured. Um.

942
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: From what I remember, I thought he was like a

943
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: pretty outstanding player. I'm just kind of surprised that there's

944
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: more talk about him. I just wanted to hear your

945
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: opinion on that, to find pretty outstanding. He's a good player.

946
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: I mean, kind of a journeyman receiver, running back, multiple team. Yeah,

947
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: I mean we were all hoping that he would fill

948
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: that third down kind of role here and he never

949
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: got me like double injuries. It was like he got

950
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: hurt in preseason, you thought he was done and somehow

951
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: he didn't. And but then he came from Miami and

952
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: got hurt in Miami and was out. But like I thought,

953
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: he looked pretty good last summer. He looked one of

954
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: the only guys comfortable running wide zone with his team

955
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: and you know, consistently got to the sideline and went

956
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: to tell you what he could do. He played one

957
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: one half of one game the first training but like

958
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: we were definitely hoping for contract and training kids too. Yeah,

959
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: I didn't see the same guy when the regular game started.

960
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: You know, Montgomery was definitely on our all out radars

961
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: as you know, a possible contributed to the offense last year. Definitely. Yeah,

962
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, I'll do a lot of stuff. Good fit, Yeah,

963
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: good receiver a little bit. At this point, would you

964
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: recommend keeping him or just getting rid? Oh? Yeah, he's

965
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: a contract. He's on a contract. See where he's at.

966
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't. I wouldn't avoid drafting, though,

967
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: can I can I see what happens in the draft? First? Yeah, dud?

968
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: Say can I get my guy? Dud? There's only there

969
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: can be only one get him in the fourth or

970
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: fifth round. Take the last day at the combine, me

971
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: and Mike are just zombies, right and we're talking about

972
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: running backs and I look at him and I go

973
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: Deuce and he's like what I was Like? I was

974
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: talking about Duce Vaughan and he didn't get the joke.

975
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: And I interpreted, is I just missed something or screwed something?

976
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: Like Deuce? Like what are you doing? Like don't say that?

977
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: Like God, Like what what what I do? What I do? Uh?

978
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: Thanks Tom, Let's go to uh William and philam what's up, William?

979
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, yeah, you're right, You're in Philly, get hurt. Yeah,

980
00:47:54,760 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm just putting it. Okay, um guy, so can you

981
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: tell me, um, like, who was the Patriots looking at

982
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: specifically in terms of um for for my receiver and

983
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: and the corners? And then two do you think, I mean,

984
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: do y'all think, honestly will Bill do something to stop

985
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: in terms of pre adency and the drift? I mean,

986
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 1: pick the right players when he signed some some freemium players,

987
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: you know, but I know it. Yeah, I hear what

988
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: you're saying. Yeah, So in terms of who they're looking at,

989
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: they're looking at everybody who they really like? We have

990
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: no idea, No, we have no idea. But but I

991
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: think Evans should tell his story about talking to Quentin Johnson,

992
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: because I'm sure Eldred's out there somewhere listening and he's

993
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: gonna get all yeah we already. Yeah, so good though.

994
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: I wrote something about this on Patriots dot com and

995
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: I I was able to to have some one on

996
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: one time with Quentin Johnston after his podium at the Combine,

997
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: and I asked him if you met with the Patriots?

998
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: Said yes, and he said that he stopped and he goes. Actually,

999
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: I think that was my favorite meeting in Indy out

1000
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: of any of the teams I met with, probably twenty teams,

1001
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: because he's a you know, really highly touted guy, so

1002
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: he's very popular around the league. Met with like twenty teams.

1003
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 1: I thought, I vibe with the Patriots guys the absolute

1004
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 1: best out of anybody that I spoke with him. No,

1005
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: not on hiring on him as a player, higher on

1006
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: him as as a guy though, Like I think that,

1007
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: you know, he definitely came across as uh, humble, but

1008
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: alpha e right, which is what the kind of want

1009
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: in that receiver, Like William, I don't know what's going

1010
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: on there, I'm gonna but you can listen. Yeah, yeah,

1011
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, you don't want him to be cocky, but

1012
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: you want him to be I'm a dude, like I

1013
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: I'm in alpha right, and he was definitely like that.

1014
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: I like it. I asked him a little bit about

1015
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: his route running, and I still have a lot of

1016
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: concerns about that because the answers that he gave me,

1017
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: we're not uninformed. But he just was talking about how

1018
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: all of his routes were pretty much locked right. So

1019
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: like you run a hit, you run a hit, you

1020
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: run a vertical, you run an option. There's no options,

1021
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: there's no conversions or nothing like that. So that that

1022
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: gave me a little bit of pause. I was hoping

1023
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: he was going to tell me, well, yeah, like, if

1024
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, the corner was playing off of me, I

1025
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: had the option to sit it down in front of

1026
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: him or something like that. And he said no, My

1027
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: my routes were all locked at at TCU And I

1028
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: was like, uh, okay, is that a fault or is

1029
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: you know that's coaching or they didn't think it. But

1030
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: I think Evan's point is that that would require more development.

1031
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I just think that it would be

1032
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: would I that And you just look at you know

1033
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: the fact that he processes things quickly and like understands, Okay,

1034
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 1: this corner is bailing out or this corner is playing

1035
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: uh off of me, and so I'm gonna have have

1036
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: I come out of my stance hard on a vertical.

1037
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have that opportunity to hit hitch this down

1038
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: at like eight yards or something like that and make

1039
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: an easy catch. Uh. Those are the types of things

1040
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: that they asked them to do. You're those are the

1041
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: types of things that I think you do at the

1042
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: next level in general when it comes to route running.

1043
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: So so to you know, to Billy and Philly's other question,

1044
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: um about do you think Belichick this year will target

1045
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: premium free agents? You know, the top of the class.

1046
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: You know, who knows? I mean it's hard to tell.

1047
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: They money isn't an issue, right, I mean they have

1048
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: they even if you believe the cap isn't crap, they have.

1049
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: Space is not an issue, right, They've they've I don't

1050
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: know if money is. Yeah, they've got space to do it.

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Speaker 1: So that's not an issue. I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But going back to so the answer to the other

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00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: question is you know, not surprisingly who knows. But going

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Speaker 1: back to what you were talking about, Evan in terms

1055
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: of you know, wide receivers and who talked to the Patriots.

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00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: You talk to Matt grow as well as well as

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00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: our team, and and he said, if you want to

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00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: get the top player, the top receivers, you got to

1059
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: you gotta spend some money. Yeah, he definitely, he has

1060
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: the right eye, like he's he understands the market obviously,

1061
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: as he shouldn't given the position that he's in in

1062
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: the organization, and you know, some of the other things

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00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: that you hear about are mac being on a rookie

1064
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: contract and maximizing this window and making sure that you

1065
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: take advantage of the fact that you have a quarterback

1066
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: on a cheaper number, because eventually that might not be

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Speaker 1: the case, like if back plays well in year three,

1068
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: in year four, you might end up being in a

1069
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: situation where at the very least you're paying him Derek

1070
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: Carr Daniel Jones level money if you want to keep him.

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Speaker 1: So I think that that the things that you did

1072
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: hear though at the combine was that they would prefer

1073
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: not to use the fourteenth overall pick on a wide receiver.

1074
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: And maybe it's it's more of a trade like the

1075
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: forty sixth pick for a veteran or something like that

1076
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: that would be an enticing option for them, but he said,

1077
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Speaker 1: a point blank if you want premium talent at a

1078
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: playmaking position like wide receiver, it comes out of premium

1079
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: in today's NFL. And you know, for a long time

1080
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: on this team, and let's face it, you know, sort

1081
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 1: of the company line was, you know, it doesn't always

1082
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: work out when you know the teams have spent all

1083
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: that money don't always win, and which is true. But

1084
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: now that you don't have Tom Brady, you kind of

1085
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: have to rethink things a little bit, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think the trademarket is interesting, you know, And is

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Speaker 1: there somebody that nobody's even really thinking about that could

1088
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: possibly move the needle? I don't know. I need stay

1089
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Speaker 1: just generally, I don't have high expectations for next week.

1090
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Speaker 1: I would like I said, I'd be all for investing

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Speaker 1: in the tackle spot. You talk about getting a new

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Speaker 1: offensive line coach in, you know, are you ready to

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Speaker 1: just throw a rookie to this? You know Adrian Climb,

1094
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: I know you like him, You've hired him reportedly, So

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Speaker 1: I think I'd prefer to go to the veteran route.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I just I wonder about how do

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Speaker 1: we feel a long term about Kyle Dugger, How do

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Speaker 1: we feel a long term about Josh Uchi? How do

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Speaker 1: we feel long term about Michael m When you know,

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Speaker 1: just a few guys who you know potentially in other

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Speaker 1: organizations might have earned second contracts and might be under

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Speaker 1: consideration for an extension, you know, those kind of things

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00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: I think might go a little bit farther from me

1104
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Speaker 1: that have thoughts are no more valuable. We'll get back

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00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: to it later, though. Let's go to Joaquin and Santa Rosa.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Good morning, fellows. Are you guys doing good? Good? Nice?

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Speaker 1: I hope you guys are doing well, excellent shows. Always

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Speaker 1: thank him. I got two questions for you. First one,

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Speaker 1: do you guys buy any of these rumors that the

1110
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: Raiders possibly want Mick Jones. I'm not buying it. I'm

1111
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: not buying it. You don't think the Raiders would have

1112
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: any interest? I think the Raiders would have interest. I don't.

1113
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Frank, Yeah, I'm not buying. Yeah, I'm not. No. No,

1114
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Speaker 1: I think I think McDaniels has pressure on him. I

1115
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: think they they either have to draft somebody to buy

1116
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: him time yep, or they need somebody who's established. Yeah,

1117
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: they can't middle it right, And I think mac Jones

1118
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: would be middling it. Maybe he's the guy that could

1119
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: get you where you want to go, but then if

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Speaker 1: it doesn't work, you're gone, You're out. Yeah, Like, I

1121
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Speaker 1: think if you had like, I think mac Jones and

1122
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: Garoppolo are probably not all that different, especially considering Garoppolo's

1123
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: injury history. But I think if you're Josh McDaniels, you

1124
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: I think you have to lean to Jimmy because I

1125
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: think he gives you a better chance to come in

1126
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: and win right away and get you where you need.

1127
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: I think he needs to win. Yeah. I think it

1128
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: was bad last year for him, not like Denver bad

1129
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: for him, but it wasn't much better. Yeah, And I

1130
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: think if they had money, I think he'd be gone.

1131
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean, the Patriots handed them a game, you know,

1132
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: well after they handed you the game, Yeah, when they

1133
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Speaker 1: blew a fourteen point lead like a in a blink

1134
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: of an eye. Yeah, So I don't know. Quick quick aside,

1135
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Speaker 1: really cool watching Dave Ziegler busting with the boys with

1136
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Speaker 1: Taylor Luan had some great stories because Taylor Luwan was

1137
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: actually in his high school. I didn't realize Dave Zigler

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Speaker 1: had been a high school guidance count slur before he

1139
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: got on the coach on the NFL coaching um. But

1140
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: like Taylor Lawan told the story of like he hadn't

1141
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: like terrible grades in Spanish and like you know, Dave

1142
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: was like helping him. But just a just a kind

1143
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: of cool story something I never knew about Dave Ziegler here,

1144
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: that he had had kind of a late journey in life,

1145
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: and you know, saying, oh, I was thirty two, and

1146
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: all the other kids scouting, you know, scouting assistants are

1147
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: all these kids, and I'm here as this, like thirty

1148
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: two year old guy who's already had a career speaking

1149
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,479
Speaker 1: to Dave Ziegler. Uh didn't did either of you, Evan

1150
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 1: or Mike c Elliott Wolf while you were there? Okay,

1151
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: I didn't see him. Where'd you see him? Good thought?

1152
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: Fred thought, Okay, in the tomb we had um if

1153
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: you guys caught this. And I forget the guy's name now,

1154
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: but we signed we we added a guy to the

1155
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: scouting department, ye who has been who's been here before?

1156
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: And Fred and I was sort of wondering if this

1157
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: is preparation for maybe Elliot Wolf leave, like he's been

1158
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: at a VP level in the league. Yeah, sounding like

1159
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: a few people after him too, like other kind of

1160
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: teams as well, And that was in the report, but

1161
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: other teams that had Patriots, you know, it's Monty Awesome Ford,

1162
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, Yepe, those those types. I just wonder if

1163
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: maybe the draft comes and Elliot Wolf leaves. Yeah, I

1164
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: just that's the timetable for personnel people. I think that's

1165
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: a totally reasonable read. And I mean I would just

1166
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: say generally, I just like, you know, adding adding some

1167
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Speaker 1: support staff, adding people, you know, to to to get

1168
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Speaker 1: more people in here, to get into the system, and

1169
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Speaker 1: you know, just have more of a buffer. So that

1170
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Speaker 1: does happen. You've got some guys there because I mean,

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00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, when we were there at the combine, it's

1172
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: it's like you said, it's all these former Patriots execs

1173
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: are now you know, running the show for a lot

1174
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: of these teams, and you just realize how many guys

1175
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: have departed. I think it's possible with with Elliot Wolf,

1176
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't roll it out, but he's been handling a

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Speaker 1: lot more of the pro personnel side of things. And

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1179
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Speaker 1: handling a lot more of the draft Stuf'm not saying

1180
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1181
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: been more of that. And I think when you look

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1183
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,520
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1184
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1186
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: a pro personnel guy for example, so it's possible. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like come, why's that? He's a hound dog man

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Speaker 1: What do you think does hips don't lie with Gonzalez? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that guy's smooth. The hips don't lie. I'll my hips

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Speaker 1: He's very kind of soft spoken, big smile. Um, you

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Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez, though, I think is the number one corner

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Speaker 1: Can play him in Zoe could play him in man

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Speaker 1: think he's going to go in the top five to

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Speaker 1: I need just Witherspoon. What about Well, Well, we didn't

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Speaker 1: he's he's the best coverage player in the draft, like

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Speaker 1: in terms of just you got this guy, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: taking Witherspoon over the rest of them. But for the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: what what we are all hoping for at that position,

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Speaker 1: probably about five Yeah. I mean I'm not saying it's

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect to be a top ten pick. But

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01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: somebody in the draft now at quarterback that I really

1462
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: loved and I knew I could get. That's the only

1463
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: way I would do it. Well, that's the only reason

1464
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: that would be the reason why you would do it. Yeah,

1465
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: what if Bill Belichick thinks that there's no difference between

1466
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: Mac Jones and Bailey's Appy, Then, um, I think then

1467
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: the end of Bill Belichick's tenure you come around to

1468
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: that way of thinking. You'd be distraught in the moment,

1469
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,560
Speaker 1: and then tomorrow when we do the show, you'd be like,

1470
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 1: I just think it was good value. I mean, I

1471
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: don't know what. I'm not going to go into the

1472
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: season thinking there's no hope, you know, But no, I

1473
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: don't want you to go into the season. Yeah, I

1474
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: don't want you to go into the season for I'm saying,

1475
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: what if Bill thinks there's not a whole lot to

1476
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: choose between those two quarterback question, I'm i gotta press record.

1477
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: Good day, sir. I have with Fred on this though,

1478
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: if you knew that, like, let's say they that's their

1479
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: line of thinking that Bailey's Appy and mac Jones are

1480
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: pretty much equal. But at fourteen, we're gonna take Anthony

1481
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: Richardson and we're gonna develop Anthony Richardson Bailey's Appy. That

1482
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: that scenario is fine, but you're not getting Anthony Richardson

1483
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: at fourteen. So like, what are you gonna do then?

1484
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: Now if you get a first round pick and now

1485
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: so now be packaging first round picks up to can

1486
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: move up into the top ten to get Anthony Richardson. Yes,

1487
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: that's what you do. You stockpile assets. I just don't

1488
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: where you want to go. I just don't see Bill

1489
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: doing something. But now I don't think now it's in

1490
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: my in my personal opinion, I think it's a moot

1491
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 1: point because I don't think Mac Jones is gonna garner

1492
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: you would enough to offer you the ability to get

1493
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: up where you want to go. I don't think you're

1494
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: getting a first round pick for mac Jones this year. Now,

1495
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: maybe if he plays really well and you still don't

1496
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: want to move on with him, then maybe next year,

1497
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 1: next off season, you could, But coming off that season,

1498
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 1: I don't think he's getting you a first round pick.

1499
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm just not selling low on Matt Jones, and I

1500
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 1: think that's probably the biggest reason. Evan. Yeah, well, I

1501
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: don't think there's much of a chance, if any at all,

1502
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: of him getting moved because of exactly what you just said.

1503
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 1: You don't sell low, I know. And this was felgrim

1504
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: as this thing. I caught a bit of them yesterday

1505
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: and they're just like they have him on a rookie deal, Mike,

1506
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 1: they are not doing anything with him on that contract

1507
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,799
Speaker 1: he is. I totally agree. I disagree with Mike's premise

1508
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: that he's here for two years. Oh yeah, Like Mike's

1509
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: pohole point is, even if he doesn't play much better

1510
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: this year than he did last year, you know, saying

1511
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 1: twenty three than he did in twenty, they're picking up

1512
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: the option no matter what. No, they'll just play it

1513
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: out right. And I was like, four years, No, he'll

1514
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: have to play better for them to want to play

1515
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: it up. They won't pick up the fifty year option.

1516
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't think under any circumstances unless he lights it

1517
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: up and that's a deal then and then therefore that

1518
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: seems like a deal, right Yeah. But if he if

1519
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: he plays like the same as he has like basically

1520
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: the first two years, they're not going to pick up

1521
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: the option, and I'm not sure they're gonna ride him

1522
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: through like the fourth year. Like what are we doing?

1523
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 1: Why do that? Um Nick and Kansas says, with the

1524
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: release of Brian Hoyer, would the Patriots use up a

1525
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 1: late round pick on a quarterback? If so, what are

1526
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: some guys that we could realistically target? Bennett and Duggan

1527
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: would be on my list, but I'm not sure where

1528
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: they're projected to. Stetson Bennett, Oh, I guess so, yeah,

1529
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't like his coach. Or there's two

1530
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: guys that played in the National Championship Game and I

1531
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: know who they are, and he's fifty. I think there's

1532
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 1: two easy ones. And that's when we've all been talking

1533
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: about dtr that you know from UCLA that they had

1534
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 1: at the Shrine Bowl. I mean, I kind of like

1535
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: the idea of how bad they've been against mobile quarterbacks

1536
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: of you know, maybe drafting a guy that's not necessarily

1537
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: a developmental gonna be our guy, but maybe at least

1538
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: a guy who can run a little bit and can

1539
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: provide some of those looks. Um. But dtr and And

1540
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: and Jake Hayner was a favorite um of of of ESPNC.

1541
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 1: Why can't I keep Jordan? There's too many Justin Reeds

1542
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: and Jordan reads in my life. But he was another

1543
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: one that you know, late round guy that that he

1544
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: thought kind of fit. What about um at Age to me,

1545
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: isn't like the thing for Bennett that I'm not interested

1546
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 1: in because if the guy could play, he could play.

1547
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: I know, I'm only kidum, but like hook, yeah yeah,

1548
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 1: what about Hind I really like it? I just I

1549
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: mean I I yeah, I mean that's probably the case.

1550
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: But I mean I would say, aside from I like

1551
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: him though, I like him, I mean I really love

1552
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: just listening to him. You know during the Senior Bowl, Um,

1553
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: you know, there was a a lot of him getting

1554
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: miked up watching practice, and you know, you just get

1555
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: a sense of these guys. I agree with Evan though,

1556
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: I think somebody's gonna probably take him in the first

1557
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: day or two. Um, did you think he's going in

1558
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: the first, think second round, second, third round. I bitch,

1559
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 1: is something in there? I wait missed that? Never mind? Men,

1560
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 1: if he's fully healthy, I think he'd be going in

1561
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: the first round. Oh yeah, but I'm going to be

1562
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 1: fully healthy. I think for you'd have to take him

1563
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: at forty six. Yeah, I'd be interested in that because,

1564
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: as you know, yeah, I think they need a quarter

1565
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: little um left turn here Kyle and rosalind Dale writes

1566
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: in while sitting around on Sunday after having a few

1567
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: too many of Paul's diet millers on Saturday night, my

1568
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: girlfriend and I suddenly got the craving for wings. Were

1569
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: you with my son? Is that where all my diet millers?

1570
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 1: We We're currently in Rosalindale, and after scouring door Dash

1571
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: and Uber Eats to find the best wing near us,

1572
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: I had an epiphany. Suddenly I heard Fred's voice in

1573
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: my head talking about Buffs Pub prior to the Super

1574
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: Bowl and how the wings there can't miss. We ordered

1575
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: take out, and I have to say, only after a

1576
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: couple of bites in, I think Fred may have been

1577
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 1: underselling it. I went with the lemon pepper, garlic palm

1578
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 1: and my girlfriend peach bourbon barbecue and both were easily

1579
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: in the tier of the best wings I've ever had. Um,

1580
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:10,440
Speaker 1: that's that's great. But you didn't get Buffalo. That's hilarious

1581
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: because I just saw an ad on TV for Buff's

1582
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: Pub randomly, and I'm like, where do I know this from?

1583
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 1: And it was Fred. This is Fred's place. Look good,

1584
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: everybody's Just for the record, I think I brought up

1585
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: Buffs pus. Ben was in agreement with me on it.

1586
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: I gotta go where Newton right off right off the

1587
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 1: mass Pike, and we used to go after when I

1588
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: worked at the Herald. After we would play our Boston

1589
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: City corporate basketball games, I was just you know, messing

1590
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 1: around and getting triple doubles. Um, we would go to

1591
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: Buffs Pub. It was awesome. Buzz pubs really really legit

1592
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo wing. Evan thinks that the show started when he

1593
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: was I think we've talked about Buffs Pub before you exist.

1594
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: I was, thank you, I hear I hear that a lot.

1595
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: You know, things happened before, all right, Uh, and certainly

1596
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: I went to Buff's Pub before then too. I was

1597
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: arguing my friends as Tim and I wanted to get

1598
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Do you think the AFC East is now

1599
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 1: the best division in football, assuming the Jets get Aaron

1600
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: Rodgers and maybe the Ravens can't keep Lamar Jackson. Of

1601
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: course this is just hypothetical, but I thought this was interesting. Um,

1602
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 1: it's definitely not the NFC South. I mean, if the

1603
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: Jets get Aaron Rodgers, then you have two legitimate, like

1604
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: really legitimate teams. I don't know about Miami because of

1605
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 1: the Brady Oh, that would be still give Yeah, I'm

1606
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 1: not giving up on the AFC West either, because I

1607
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 1: still think there's there's enough talent there. And I maybe

1608
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm being foolish with Sean Payton, but I think Sean

1609
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 1: Payton will make that look better. Yeah. I think that

1610
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: guy was over his head. Yeah, I mean as a

1611
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: head coach, Nathaniel Hackett. I mean just even seeing this

1612
01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: on the TV screen here as we're sitting with like

1613
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers agrees to me, you know, with the Jets,

1614
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 1: like it's it's kind of scary. Even says they're playing

1615
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 1: foot see. I mean, it's kind of it's kind of

1616
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: scary because I think we all agree that that team

1617
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 1: has a lot of pieces in place, very scary and

1618
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,679
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, And you've been looking

1619
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 1: up at Miami and I know that they beat Miami

1620
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: last year at the end, you know, a bang gambler

1621
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: Miami squad not exactly what it was, but yeah, so

1622
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 1: you know they haven't been able to beat Buffalo. They've

1623
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 1: had a real hard time with Miami two. And now

1624
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: you're talking about the Jets are about to get a

1625
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 1: generational quarterback with Think about the games that you had

1626
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: with the Jets last and recently. Was the only reason

1627
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 1: you won that game last year at home was because

1628
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: of the kick return have nothing to do with your

1629
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: I think you may have lost both. If Mike White

1630
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: had played let alone Rogers, they couldn't score points. That's

1631
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: not going to be the case with Aaron Rodgers. Ye,

1632
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: and if Hall is you know healthy again? You know right, jeez,

1633
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: I didn't even that didn't even come to the top

1634
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 1: of my mind that that's a scary proposition. I I

1635
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: I have to do everything in my power and keep

1636
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers from going to the Jets. I really do.

1637
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to start making some phone calls because

1638
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: I mean for me, and I said it many times,

1639
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 1: like and I know Paul sometimes brings up like, you know, well,

1640
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: how do you feel about, like, you know, Wessel Wilson

1641
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 1: going to the Broncos. Do you feel like, you know,

1642
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: the AFC is getting tough and it's like I can't

1643
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: get past the AFC East and right now it's just

1644
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 1: like that is my my nightmare of well, what are

1645
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 1: the Patriots going to do? Because we know what's going

1646
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: on against Buffalo Miami and now that the Jets are

1647
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: going to enter into this mix, like you know, they

1648
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: need to, I feel like and I hate this kind

1649
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 1: of stuff, like you need to make a statement, But

1650
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: at the same time, I kind of feel like you

1651
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 1: got to make a statement and say, hey, what are

1652
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 1: we doing to try to like close the gap here

1653
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: because it feels like all these other teams are making

1654
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 1: strides each offseason away from us, and each year it

1655
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: gets a little bit farther away. Yeah, but I do

1656
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: think the the AFC East would would enter into that

1657
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: area of the best, if not the best divisions. There

1658
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: aren't really a ton of them. I still think the

1659
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:58,600
Speaker 1: North is pretty good, you know, with with Cincinnati, Cleveland

1660
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh, UM in Baltimore, they're all like they're all

1661
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: talented teams. They're all pretty tough teams. The big X

1662
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 1: factor there is is Watson. Can he be anything like

1663
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: what he was? Right? We didn't really see a lot

1664
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: of signs of that in the last handful of games

1665
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: he played. But what if the whole offseason he looks

1666
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 1: more like the Deshaun Watson that last played for the Texans.

1667
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: When when Mike decided, oh yeah, he's pretty good. Yeah,

1668
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean, he won't stop the storying

1669
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: the team. That's when you found out he was good.

1670
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 1: I mean not at Clemson. Wait, I mean, I mean,

1671
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: I tell I tell you about what Marvin Harrison's sons.

1672
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: That's a division where the Steelers are kind of in

1673
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: the situation of the Patriots where yeah, you know, right, yeah,

1674
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 1: and and and they I mean they are I think

1675
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 1: that if if Watson turns out to be what he

1676
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: was in Houston, then I think Pittsburgh is the worst

1677
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 1: team in that division. And they went nine and eight

1678
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: right last year. Yeah, so that's a pretty good division.

1679
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:06,719
Speaker 1: And Jackson's I don't think Jackson's going anywhere. Yeah, Jordan

1680
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 1: and London, I love Duson Evans reports from the combine,

1681
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: but we only heard good reviews of the player players

1682
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: and how they carried themselves. I missed Paul and Andy's

1683
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: a rational dislike of prospects those after walking past them

1684
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 1: in India, and in fairness to me and I don't

1685
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: often defend myself, that was more of an Andy thing.

1686
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: I just decided guys couldn't play based on appearances, based

1687
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 1: on X. That That was my like, what are we

1688
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,600
Speaker 1: doing here? Rub you the wrong way? Yeah? Did he

1689
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: say like he thought he should be the number one

1690
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: overall pickers? I mean, you know, he's just I don't know.

1691
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 1: Andy was completely out on Kyla Murray. Yeah, just look

1692
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: some little boy I wandered in. Oh yeah he was. Yeah,

1693
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 1: he was right way right. Um, Let's see, he knew

1694
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: that he didn't study and that's why he would never

1695
01:24:55,160 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: be as good as he should be. A gamer closet, Bryan,

1696
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 1: he's like sitting in one of those chairs, like gamer chairs. Like, hey, guys,

1697
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,799
Speaker 1: Brian in the bay airess as Paul as a fraud,

1698
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 1: Yes he is. Orlando Brown playing on three teams is

1699
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 1: a red flag. Brandon Cooks playing on four teams is

1700
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: the hall of fame. You know, I'm not interested in

1701
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 1: reacquiring Brandon Cooks and when the Patriots got him it

1702
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 1: was his second team. I'm not interested in straighten for

1703
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. Now, well, that's the Robbie Anderson thing too,

1704
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm less interested in that, right I no, And

1705
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 1: that just in these names get recycled over and over,

1706
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 1: which knows me to our our lunchtime discussion during the break,

1707
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 1: What do you think of Robbie Anderson on a cheap,

1708
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: cheap team? I mean, you get him, appreciate a No,

1709
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: why do we want that? We don't want that. No,

1710
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. When we go down the hall

1711
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 1: and ass because they've been When I say we, I'm

1712
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 1: not just talking about the fans. I'm saying that that's

1713
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: what they'll do. Yeah. Another guy, another guy that wrote

1714
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: in saying, you know cornerback, Like you know, I think

1715
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: cornerback is a is a big need. Totally agree. What

1716
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 1: do you think of Greedy Williams who hasn't really worked out?

1717
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: He's a second round pick who was supposed to be

1718
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: real and I missed on him, by the way. That

1719
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 1: was a guy that I really liked. Um, why do

1720
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 1: we need to find these like diamonds in the rough?

1721
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: Liked did Gilmore not work out? Will? So when I

1722
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,799
Speaker 1: when I posted my cornerback rankings going into the combine,

1723
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: and all the comments were if they can find J. C.

1724
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 1: Jackson as a UDFA, why waste the first round pick

1725
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: on a corner And it's like, because J. C. Jackson

1726
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: is good, not great, That's what they don't get in right.

1727
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: Fred and I had a discussion about this. I think

1728
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: in last Tuesday show, if I can win the lottery,

1729
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: why you know have a four one K. So the

1730
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: Patriots have done a very good job, and I'm not exaggerating,

1731
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: They've done a very good job of finding undrafted free

1732
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 1: agent cornerbacks that can play, that have made the turn

1733
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:51,600
Speaker 1: them into NFL players. Going back to Randall Gay and

1734
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: you know Malcolm Butler, I mean even Miles Bryant, John James,

1735
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones, third round pick, Ryan and U and JC Okay.

1736
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: But I think those guys were really good when you

1737
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 1: think of them as former undrafted free agents. Not when

1738
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: you think of them is we took him in the

1739
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: first round, right, Like Randall Gay was not a great

1740
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 1: player if he was a first round draft pick. That again,

1741
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: same point made on six Rings today. Just saying traded

1742
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: for Talib like had to go out and sign Rivers Browner.

1743
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 1: You know, I don't really, And I think that's a

1744
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 1: characteristic of all of their championship teams one to one

1745
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 1: High Law Sante, Samuel Stefan, Gilmour, Durell Revs. Like they've

1746
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: had that out to use your your turn, that alpha

1747
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,640
Speaker 1: corner that if you want to say, Steph Diggs is

1748
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: playing today, Okay, no problem, I got him. He's gonna

1749
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: get his three for thirty and that's all. That's what

1750
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: I loved. We talked to Cam Smith from South Carolina

1751
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 1: a little bit at the Combine and he played Jalen

1752
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: High this past season. He won the b and cough

1753
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 1: at Tennessee and he said they got into their meeting

1754
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 1: room on Sunday, first meeting room turned the page of Tennessee.

1755
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: He goes, walks into the meeting room, goes, I got

1756
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,640
Speaker 1: high at and leaves and I was like boom, Like

1757
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: that's what that's what we have, the mentality, and that's

1758
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 1: what I know that there's stories from ty Law doing

1759
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: similar things where you know they would play, uh, you know,

1760
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 1: the bills and he'd be like, I got molds and

1761
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: then he would just walk out of the room and

1762
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: then in the game he'd take molds and he'd take

1763
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: your guy too. Yeah. Yeah, right, So it's and I

1764
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 1: just I feel like that we sometimes and I heard

1765
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 1: my buddy Chris Gasper talking about this, like the page

1766
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: has done a great job of developing cornerbacks over the years,

1767
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: and I would push back against that a little bit.

1768
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 1: I think they've done a great job of like mining

1769
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 1: you know, these diamonds in the rough, yes, and turning

1770
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 1: him into you know, NFL players like Malcolm Butler to me,

1771
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: was good. J C. Jackson is good. I don't think

1772
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: there's stars, but I could give you a laundry list

1773
01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: of guys they've taken in the first three rounds of

1774
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 1: that position that all couldn't play tyrone les I love

1775
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 1: the point and and and I think when I look

1776
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 1: at this defense, I think that's what's missing, Like you

1777
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 1: need that number one cornerback. And it's not just about

1778
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 1: or you're gonna go lock a guy down. It's just

1779
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 1: about the trickle down. And you know, if you have

1780
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 1: that one guy, then all these other guys that you

1781
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: somehow found u DFA's late round developmental guys then there

1782
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 1: then that's okay. But when you're trying to go into

1783
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: battle with just all guys that you you know, the

1784
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: diamonds and the rough who aren't quite you know, they're

1785
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: the one bees of the world, I don't think it's enough.

1786
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 1: I think they need that talent. They need that guy

1787
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,679
Speaker 1: at the top. No. I mean we saw it, even

1788
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 1: guys that weren't in their prime but were good covers.

1789
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 1: When they added vas and the tall kid on the

1790
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 1: other side, Browner, uh that year, it made. It made

1791
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 1: a huge difference. It allowed you to do so many

1792
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 1: different things on defense that you weren't able to do before.

1793
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 1: You know it frees other guys. Like the mentality of

1794
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 1: how you view a guy right, Like, I think we'd

1795
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 1: all agree Jonathan Jones good solid player, Like I wouldn't

1796
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 1: tell you anything overly negative about Jonathan Jones, but I

1797
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: still think of him as scrappy, overachieving, undrafted free agent.

1798
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: Look what happened when you made him your number one corner?

1799
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 1: How did Digs do against him? How did Jefferson do

1800
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,600
Speaker 1: against them? And that's not Jonathan Jones's fault. This is

1801
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 1: not necessarily meant to be a shot at Jonathan Jones.

1802
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:27,759
Speaker 1: It's meant to show you the difference between the guys

1803
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 1: that Evan's talking about that come into the meeting room

1804
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 1: and tell you what they're going to do. And you're

1805
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent in year six or seven who's

1806
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 1: had hats off, great job getting yourself into a really

1807
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 1: really respectable NFL career, who's competitive, right, Yeah, and he is.

1808
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: He didn't have a terrible year as the number one corner, right,

1809
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 1: he was fine, Right, But I think if he's going

1810
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 1: to be your number one corner, you're probably gonna struggle

1811
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: against a good passing. And that's why, like you can tell,

1812
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 1: like you guys know this, like and I always look

1813
01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 1: at the teleide things like kind of the inflection point

1814
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 1: of like, hey, we can't just keep driving drafting five ten,

1815
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:04,600
Speaker 1: one eighty corners that play zone. We need to be

1816
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 1: able to man people up. So, like I think we

1817
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 1: were all surprised when they put that contract on Stefan Gilmore,

1818
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 1: you know, not in a bad way, but just those

1819
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 1: signs to me going to get Reevas. It showed to

1820
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 1: me they get it, they know they need that guy,

1821
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 1: and they just they haven't had that guy since Gilmore left.

1822
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 1: I think this this draft could be an opportunity to

1823
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 1: Gilmore was the I think the tenth overall pick in

1824
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 1: his draft, and so he's somebody that was a high

1825
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 1: end talent, like you know, really great tester all through

1826
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 1: the roof, all everything. And I just I come back

1827
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 1: to we were talking about this a lot at the

1828
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: combine because these corners just like blew us away. I mean,

1829
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 1: there's gonna be fifteen corners draft in the top one

1830
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 1: hundred of this draft. There's a great depth, great guys

1831
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 1: at the top at the top, excuse me, and we

1832
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: were why why were they? Why do they have such

1833
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 1: a good pass rush? But they were terrible on third down? Right?

1834
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 1: Like why like how do those two sixty sacks twenty

1835
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 1: second on third right? How do those two things line up?

1836
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 1: And I think at the end of the day, as

1837
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 1: much as I get into the x's and nose in

1838
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:01,679
Speaker 1: the scheme, and at some point it's our guys against

1839
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,639
Speaker 1: your guys, and on the outside at corner there guys

1840
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 1: were just not good enough. I mean I look at

1841
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 1: the Raiders game, like they just marched right down the

1842
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 1: field when they needed a drive at the end of

1843
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: the game. If you had one of those lockdown corners

1844
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,640
Speaker 1: and said, in Marcus Jones, you know, playing out a

1845
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 1: position and all these guys playing you know, in up

1846
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 1: up a peg in the order, did the Raiders march

1847
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: right down the field, like, I don't know. Maybe if

1848
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 1: you lose Jonathan Jones and you don't do it. Let's

1849
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 1: say you don't get that first or second round draft

1850
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 1: pick and you don't say, swing a trade for Jalen

1851
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:39,679
Speaker 1: Ramsey or someone you know, I don't know, Marcus Peters,

1852
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. Then you're going in with Jalen Mills,

1853
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 1: who you have no idea about because you missed half

1854
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 1: the year. And the Jones boys, like I mean even

1855
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 1: even Miles Bryants are restricted free agent. Yep, that's a

1856
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 1: complicated one where he's undrafted too, So it's like you're

1857
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: basically either choose him, We're gonna extend him, or we're

1858
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 1: gonna kind of let him walk. Well, you cannot gonna

1859
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: give an original Terren tender and then anybody could sign

1860
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 1: me to it, right, I mean most teams, if they

1861
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 1: had any if they had any interest in the player,

1862
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 1: would give him a second round tender, which would scare

1863
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 1: everybody off. Can't pay you think you're going to give him. No,

1864
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't think they will. Juan in Mexico, with the

1865
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:20,639
Speaker 1: report that teams believe Jacoby Myers is not getting fifteen

1866
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: plus million dollar contract, is there more of a chance

1867
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 1: they keep him or they start from scratch with drafting?

1868
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 1: Also with Bill not going into the combine, is that

1869
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 1: a sign he is leaving more GM duties to Matt

1870
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 1: grow and focusing more on the coaching part of his job.

1871
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 1: Or does it mean nothing? I mean, I mean, I

1872
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 1: think the way they divide it up is gross. Kind

1873
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: of the draft and Elliot Wolf was kind of free

1874
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 1: agency and pro I mean that's been Bill kind of

1875
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 1: overseeing at all. I think that last thing. Or does

1876
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 1: it mean nothing? Where I'm at fifteen plus million, I'm

1877
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 1: not sure that Jacoby Myers is going to get more

1878
01:33:56,160 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 1: than fifteen million. I think I think given the market,

1879
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 1: he's he's probably gonna walk. And I mean it's I'm

1880
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: excited for him to get to get paid. And but

1881
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 1: I also think that the Patriots can you know, I

1882
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: don't want to say upgrade, but I think they can

1883
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 1: change their dynamic a little bit, and you know, instead

1884
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 1: of having a lot of guys who maybe air more

1885
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 1: to the side of size and smarts. You can maybe

1886
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 1: the word I keep hammering quickness, you can, you know,

1887
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 1: try to try to get a little bit of speed

1888
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 1: and dynamic nature into the middle of the field. It's

1889
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 1: going to be unproven likely, but you know, I would

1890
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,759
Speaker 1: take you know, some flyers on, maybe some some veteran

1891
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 1: guys too, just to see how it works, just to

1892
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 1: be a fly on the wall down there. About how

1893
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 1: they're talking about approaching this offseason, you know, and are

1894
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 1: we gonna surround Mac? Is that priority number one? Like

1895
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 1: I just it would be so interesting to know. Yeah,

1896
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 1: you know, well to go back to the whole Aaron

1897
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 1: Rodgers saying, if that's not priority number one, then what is?

1898
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 1: Because if the Jets have Aaron Rodgers and that defense,

1899
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 1: and the Bills are the Bills, and the Dolphins are

1900
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 1: at least a team that can light up the scoreboard

1901
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 1: on any given sun day, you'd better be able to

1902
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 1: score some points in this division. And right now they

1903
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,560
Speaker 1: are not. They are on the bottom of that. And

1904
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 1: who knows what Garrett Wilson looks like. I mean, how

1905
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 1: far Garrett Wilson ascends when he has a quarterback like

1906
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 1: that throwing them the ball. You know, like you could

1907
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: be talking about the three of the top five receivers

1908
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 1: in the league or in the ACA with Zach Wilson

1909
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 1: throwing in the ball in the game in the mental lands.

1910
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 1: He ripped him up. Yeah right now, the second game

1911
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:27,760
Speaker 1: here and no one could do anything offensifully, quick, quick

1912
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 1: little story I did, right. I don't know if I

1913
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 1: wrote it today, write it. I don't know. Um, but

1914
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 1: talking to a guy from Houston and just brought up like, hey,

1915
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 1: what'd you think of Marcus Jones? Is um you know

1916
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 1: rookie year. I mean, just lit up like, oh my gosh,

1917
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 1: he said, you know, we're the whole team. We were

1918
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 1: watching it in the locker room that game against the Jets,

1919
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: and then you know we're all like, oh man, he

1920
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 1: could do it. He could do it. We all had

1921
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 1: our phones out. You know. He's just he was so

1922
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: excited for his former teammates and stuff. So, you know,

1923
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 1: just kind of cool, little little direction. I like those

1924
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 1: you talk to the teammates the year later. I just

1925
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 1: love when you ask questions and you see something igniting

1926
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 1: them that they're just excited to talk about. Because there

1927
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 1: were a couple guys. I talked to some of the

1928
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 1: Oregon guys, but there was one of the Oregon linemen

1929
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 1: where I was kind of silent up getting ready to

1930
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: ask a question, and I'm like, this is the most

1931
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:11,560
Speaker 1: nervous human being I think I've ever seen in my

1932
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 1: entire life, and like was just fumbling with like the

1933
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 1: most simplest questions. And I'm like, all right, I'm just

1934
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: gonna let this guy have a pass. I don't want

1935
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,679
Speaker 1: to stress them out anymore. No, No, Adrian growing, Nope,

1936
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 1: not on that. Why don't you pick up the backside

1937
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 1: blitz Alex in Somerset love the show. I've heard Evans

1938
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,600
Speaker 1: say multiple times how the Patriots cannot or do not

1939
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 1: develop big outside receivers. Quentin John said Metcalf types, I'm

1940
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 1: confused by this because coaches are constantly being shifted and updated.

1941
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 1: Belichick is a defensive coach. It doesn't seem to be

1942
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 1: part of the wide receiver development. Why is it just

1943
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 1: a known thing that the Patriots are unable to develop

1944
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 1: a big wide receiver? Saying this without going further almost

1945
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 1: makes it seem like the Patriots aren't able to do

1946
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 1: it for unknown reasons. Considering coaching changes happen constantly. Could

1947
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 1: you expand this? Just tell me the one big outside

1948
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: receiver that they developed into a good NFL player. I mean,

1949
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 1: how many coaches do we have to I don't care

1950
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 1: about the coaches, Like, just just tell me. I mean,

1951
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: it's never happened. Well, maybe he's just curious, Like why

1952
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 1: do you think that they've been unsuccessful doing it? Because

1953
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 1: I think in this system, and look, we can talk

1954
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 1: about the system and if it if it should be

1955
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 1: the system and not should be the system or whatever,

1956
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 1: but in this system, you have to be a high

1957
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 1: IQ player that knows how to run routes. And the

1958
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 1: guys that just are explosive, big size speed guys had

1959
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 1: to do that run in a straight line. Like that's

1960
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 1: just not you know, just I don't know, Like just

1961
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:43,719
Speaker 1: name a name. I know, I know Jackson. They didn't

1962
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 1: develop Davante Adams. But do you think it's an interesting

1963
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 1: just thing to discuss in terms of what Davanta Adams

1964
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 1: did with you know, with Mick Lombardi and Josh McDaniels.

1965
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 1: Who were those previous guys Like, I mean, again, you

1966
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 1: brought Randy mosson and there was no problem. There's no

1967
01:37:58,320 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: problem when you bring a guy in who's you know,

1968
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 1: that next kind of level. But I mean, I agree

1969
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 1: generally the point. I'm still kind of on the same

1970
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 1: thing with with Quentin Johnston in that regard. But yeah,

1971
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 1: I agree with the point because I think it's factual,

1972
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:11,640
Speaker 1: Like I don't. I think Evin just gave you a

1973
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 1: bunch of examples of guys. But I look at it

1974
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 1: more as it's it's not really it's not really what

1975
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 1: they want. It's not what they're looking for for whatever reason.

1976
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 1: And I disagree with it because I do think that

1977
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 1: when you have guys with that kind of ability, the

1978
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 1: offense changes, and I think it did change when when

1979
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 1: Moss came in. Now I get it, like to just

1980
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:37,240
Speaker 1: ask Chad Jackson to be Randy Moss. That's stupid. But

1981
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 1: you got to hit like, I don't like the idea

1982
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 1: of just saying those guys don't work in this offense,

1983
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to look at them. And this

1984
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 1: is not meant to be a shot at you, evn't.

1985
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 1: This is more of a shot at like the system. Yeah, yeah,

1986
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's unbending. I hear you, because look,

1987
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: I think just in terms of checking boxes. I think

1988
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 1: Quentin Johnson checks the most boxes out of any receiver

1989
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: in this class because he doesn't have the forty concern

1990
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 1: that JSN might have or the speed concern that he

1991
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 1: might have. So if you're just looking at boxes, I

1992
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 1: think in terms of the position he's going to play

1993
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,719
Speaker 1: in the league is that outside X receiver, he checks

1994
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 1: all of them. He's at everything. But the problem that

1995
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 1: you see with him as a linear athlete like this

1996
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 1: is not a guy that can sink his hips, make

1997
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 1: a cut at the top of the route and create separation.

1998
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean, even when he goes up against corners that

1999
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 1: he had their numbers, Like Julius Brentz is a guy

2000
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: I really like on Day two had a lot of

2001
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 1: problems covering Quentin Johnson down the field, but when Quentin

2002
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 1: Johnson ran a slant, Julius Brentz was in his hip pocket.

2003
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 1: Like so, you know, you just you look at these

2004
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 1: types of things and you worry. I don't want to

2005
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 1: fixate necessarily on a specific player. I'm gonna just start

2006
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 1: naming random players from the league like Mike Evans and A. J.

2007
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 1: Brown and DK Metcalf and you know, like all of

2008
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 1: these guys like, do we feel And I'm not talking

2009
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 1: to go right now, I don't because I think they're

2010
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 1: they're finished products. So I'm not I know, you don't.

2011
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 1: You don't think that they could get it out of them? No,

2012
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying that I think that if this Patriots tomorrow

2013
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 1: went out and traded for DK Metcalf, I think DK

2014
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 1: Metcalf would be a hell of a Patriot. Like I

2015
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 1: think he'd be a great player. I don't. My concern

2016
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 1: is is that you're if you had drafted DK Metcalf

2017
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:23,600
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, would DK Metcalf be the player that

2018
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 1: he is with Seattle today? Because I don't think that.

2019
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 1: You think it's more of a development thing. Yeah, I

2020
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 1: think it's more due to the system that they that

2021
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 1: there's I think it's I think, to me, I guess

2022
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 1: they go hand and yeah, I was just gonna say

2023
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: it feels like they go hand in hand, and like,

2024
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I don't have the answer. I'm not.

2025
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 1: This is not one of my snarky paulism, So I'm

2026
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:44,759
Speaker 1: just thinking out loud. I think that your offense is limited.

2027
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 1: I listen, when you have Tom Brady, I mean, and

2028
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: just that guy Mike Evans proves the point. So you

2029
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,679
Speaker 1: had it doing it like with the five yard passes

2030
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: to Wes Welker and Julian Edelman and then throwing seeing

2031
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 1: routes to Gronk and throwing bombs to my like he

2032
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 1: showed you you could do it. And then he went

2033
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 1: and entirely different cast of characters in Tampa Bay, really

2034
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 1: talented cast of character characters. But he's throwing bombs to

2035
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 1: Mike Evans and it looks the same. It just I mean,

2036
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the productions the same. It looked different, but

2037
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 1: the production was there. Like to me, it's about not

2038
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 1: about the system as much as the players. Where I'm

2039
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:24,600
Speaker 1: at right now is that I'm wondering last year's you know,

2040
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 1: changing the system, simplifying it to make it go faster.

2041
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 1: You know where did that end up? And was that

2042
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 1: part of trying to eliminate the kind of things we're

2043
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:37,719
Speaker 1: talking about. Second point, Bill O'Brien has had success developing

2044
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: a couple of wide receivers. DeAndre Hopkins obviously played well

2045
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 1: under him in Houston. What changes now when Bill O'Brien

2046
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 1: comes back, is this now building off of what Matt

2047
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:48,600
Speaker 1: Patricia did and in the simplicity. Are we blowing that

2048
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 1: up and we're just Bill brow'brian's offenses back now, you know.

2049
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 1: So that's an area where I wonder maybe that you know,

2050
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 1: maybe Bill O'Brien has something new and maybe, you know,

2051
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 1: maybe that this can change a little bit it. I

2052
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 1: don't know. He hasn't had success elsewhere though, when he's

2053
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 1: seen plenty of other guys, So that's a little bit

2054
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 1: intriguing to me. I think it's the old Billy O'Brien system.

2055
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be the same playbook that they had,

2056
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:17,720
Speaker 1: like the Patricia playbooks and that whole thing experience. Oh um.

2057
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:22,560
Speaker 1: Speaking of him, Yeah, Karen Greegid over the weekend indicated

2058
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 1: that he is in play for a job in Philadelphia. Yeah.

2059
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:31,680
Speaker 1: I saw a possible linebackers coach. Yeah, just that. I

2060
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 1: was just gonna say, you know, he's still there, be

2061
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: best friends forever. Yes, I still don't think you're in

2062
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't know why you think you should be hanging

2063
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 1: out with those guys. You haven't achieved anything that they have.

2064
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 1: Russell in Arkansas, speaking of Billy Oh, he wonders do

2065
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:48,280
Speaker 1: you guys think Billy Oh will have any say in

2066
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 1: the draft. If so, do you think they would be

2067
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:54,920
Speaker 1: more inclined to draft guys from the SEC? And last question,

2068
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:57,639
Speaker 1: any chance they go more defensive players in the draft?

2069
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 1: In free agency? Um and free agency route for offense.

2070
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 1: So defense in the draft free agency for offense. There

2071
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 1: is no offense in free agency besides a lineman. There's tackles. Uh, well,

2072
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 1: you tell him the thing that you that you heard

2073
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 1: right like? Yeah, no, Yeah, Macro told me that that

2074
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 1: Billy Oh was a huge I think it's he used

2075
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 1: two huges, huge, huge, huge resource for for the college side.

2076
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 1: I think is the phrasing that he used to pick

2077
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 1: his brain about players he coach at Alabama, players he

2078
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 1: coached against in the SEC College Football playoff Sugar Bowl,

2079
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 1: you know things like that. So yeah, I definitely think

2080
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:40,879
Speaker 1: that Bill O'Brien not only having an influence on scouting

2081
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 1: in the players that they go after, but also having

2082
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 1: an influence based off of the type of system that

2083
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:47,679
Speaker 1: he's going to implement here will be a big part

2084
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 1: of it. I'm not thinking it's the end, I'll be all.

2085
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 1: I think it'll be part of it, and I don't

2086
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 1: think that will lead them to draft more SEC guys,

2087
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 1: Like I think that's what you like. I mean, I

2088
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 1: think you, in general you're gonna draft SEC guys, so

2089
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 1: does everybody else. But I think he'll be a part

2090
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 1: of the draft, just like I think Josh was a

2091
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 1: part of the draft. And I would just say fred

2092
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 1: to the to the defensive side of the point. I

2093
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 1: feel like I came back from Indian If I had

2094
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:11,400
Speaker 1: to say, there's one area I just don't really feel

2095
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,720
Speaker 1: like I got a good beat on. It is the

2096
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 1: front seven, the linebackers, the edges, and I mean, I

2097
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:19,800
Speaker 1: do feel like there's some quality nose tackle, you know,

2098
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 1: day three feel you know, take the Carl Davis role

2099
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 1: and maybe hand it to a rookie. But you know,

2100
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 1: as far as like, oh, this looks like such one

2101
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:31,759
Speaker 1: of their guys as an edge that they might potentially

2102
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 1: take him at fourteen or even you know, in the

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01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 1: second round, I just I don't really those guys aren't

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01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 1: on the top of my mind right now. I need to.

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01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. Everybody don't feel it, but I know

2106
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 1: that I in listening to all those coaches and GM's talk,

2107
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:45,679
Speaker 1: a lot of them brought up pass rushing was pretty

2108
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 1: deep class and now I didn't like I don't know

2109
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 1: all of the individuals like I do with some of

2110
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 1: the wide receivers and in different spots, but I know

2111
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,760
Speaker 1: like Brandon Bean in particular, was talking about tight ended

2112
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 1: corner like everybody else has um and then he mentioned

2113
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 1: pass rushers. Yeah, I would say, I would say those

2114
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 1: are the three in order, tight end, corner, edge are

2115
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 1: the three best position groups in this draft. Edge is

2116
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 1: going to go I'd say maybe ten deep in the

2117
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 1: top fifty. And it's guy like Will Anderson's at the

2118
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 1: top of the draft, right, and then there's guys that

2119
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 1: trickle in behind that you mentioned josh Ucha on a

2120
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 1: contract year and if they're gonna end up paying him,

2121
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 1: like a guy like Nolan Smith at fourteen from Georgia

2122
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 1: after the combine he just had, it's not it's not

2123
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 1: totally out of the realm of possibility of just best

2124
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 1: player available on the board and that's who we're gonna take.

2125
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,680
Speaker 1: You know, maybe they end up that the positions and

2126
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 1: need aren't really there at fourteen and they don't love

2127
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:41,800
Speaker 1: a trade back and Nolan Smith is sitting there for

2128
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 1: them and they end up taking him. He's just one

2129
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:47,680
Speaker 1: of those freak athletes off the edge have to resign

2130
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 1: two out of the three. Dugger. Yeah, same the way

2131
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,799
Speaker 1: came on, though I don't know, I might say Ouche

2132
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 1: and Duggar. I would say Uche and Dugger two. Yeah,

2133
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 1: if you only had one Doug Dugger, that would be

2134
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 1: my picture. Yeah. But usche Man, he's rising, he's ris

2135
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 1: and I got to figure out a classic. Belichick realizes

2136
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 1: that it's not It was Arizona in the fourth quarter

2137
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 1: against the backup tackle. Yeah. Class, And and to Paul's point,

2138
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 1: I think too, it's like, on mind you I really

2139
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 1: like him? Do I love him? Like? Do I need

2140
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 1: him to stay here for ten years? At Rodar early

2141
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 1: in the show, I said, I want to get back

2142
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 1: to that, but I think A. When you's a rock

2143
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 1: solid offensive, now he's a he's a beast um. But

2144
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:42,560
Speaker 1: this is what you did. You know, let's rewind, I

2145
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:45,759
Speaker 1: don't know, six years and you re upped Shack Mason

2146
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 1: and Joe Tuney. You know, in Tuney's case, you franchised

2147
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 1: for big money. Yeah, and it doesn't make your team

2148
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 1: all that much better. I'm not saying that you're not

2149
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 1: better with Michael when you that you would be Chason Hines.

2150
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:00,639
Speaker 1: But how much better are you? Yeah? The whole cold,

2151
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 1: strange thing all over again, you know, And I would

2152
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:06,599
Speaker 1: say too like my comment was as much about can

2153
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 1: we retain some of our own players and build a

2154
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 1: core because it feels like, you know, as these free

2155
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 1: agent class from twenty twenty one starts to you know,

2156
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 1: expire and get out, I just I'm left wondering, where's

2157
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 1: our core? Who are the guys that we've drafted that

2158
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:21,680
Speaker 1: we really like that we're you know, we want to

2159
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 1: build around that. We want to make the Patriots franchise players.

2160
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 1: When we put guys up on billboard, who are those

2161
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 1: guys going to be? Fred touches mic? You can't touch

2162
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:34,559
Speaker 1: the mic, Fred, don't touch that. Yeah, I don't want

2163
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 1: that hand. Looking at that Mike Trove in the bathroom,

2164
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: can't I can't move my mic arm don't move. Let's

2165
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 1: go back to the Ace ticket outline, Boston Cream out

2166
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 1: of Edmonton's on the line. What's up? Oh boy, hey guys,

2167
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 1: thanks thanks for rolling off season content. I just want

2168
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 1: to say a couple of things. First off, evan massive

2169
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 1: upgrade over Eric. We've checked off a couple of years

2170
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 1: checked out, no disrespect, no, none taken. Yeah, don't take

2171
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 1: it personally. The truth is never mean. The question I

2172
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 1: have is if Belichick drafts another head scratcher this year,

2173
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 1: how do you think the fan base to reacts? And

2174
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:17,559
Speaker 1: do you think that possibly that's the next put out

2175
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 1: the door for Belichick? I think the fan base will

2176
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:21,680
Speaker 1: react the same way it does every year when he

2177
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:23,920
Speaker 1: does that. What is he doing? And he's a better coach,

2178
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:26,680
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think to the point and to

2179
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 1: the point of last year was undebatably not good and

2180
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 1: and and a bad year for Bill. You know, I

2181
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 1: just and compounded with the AFC stuff, with Aaron Rodgers

2182
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 1: and all that. I you know, I don't want to again.

2183
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't want the optics of it, but I just

2184
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 1: feel like you need something for the fan base to

2185
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 1: feel like, hey, we got some hope here that we're

2186
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 1: going to come And we've always said that, like the

2187
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 1: presence of Tom Brady and the AFCAS forced other teams

2188
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 1: to make bad decisions because they were always like, yeah,

2189
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:57,519
Speaker 1: we don't beat him in two years and you blow

2190
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:59,600
Speaker 1: it up. Could that happen to the Patriots, like, you know,

2191
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 1: like you're you're the way I'm I'm looking at you

2192
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 1: while you're talking to is it's like something I would

2193
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 1: say it already hasn't. Yeah, you know Aaron Rodgers and

2194
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, gosh out, we're gonna do something like could

2195
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 1: you make could could you see them making bad decision?

2196
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 1: I think Buffalo and the Jets in the same situation

2197
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 1: that the Patriots have been the last three years, would

2198
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 1: have already been on a second regime. Yeah, I'm already

2199
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:24,519
Speaker 1: gone three years like that. I think last year is

2200
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 1: is it? That's it? Last year was a bad decision

2201
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 1: after bad decision. I mean there you know a couple

2202
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 1: doozies and ones that aren't just like well why didn't

2203
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,559
Speaker 1: he play marm but like they blew up the whole

2204
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 1: offense and they never found their way, like you know,

2205
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:42,679
Speaker 1: so they is that a result of feeling pressure blowing

2206
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 1: up the offense? And I don't think so. I think

2207
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 1: it was. I think it was the result. I think

2208
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 1: it was the opposite. I think it was money saving

2209
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 1: that too, But I think it was the opposite of

2210
01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, I think we can figure it out. I

2211
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 1: believe that one said it. I just I look at

2212
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 1: the dear raft and like just hit it down the fairway, please,

2213
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:06,760
Speaker 1: like stop taking cole Strangers in the first round, like

2214
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 1: you're not in that position anymore. And when I keep

2215
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:13,760
Speaker 1: on going back to that introductory on the field thing,

2216
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 1: or they march them out with mister Kraft and Jonathan

2217
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 1: and h and mister Kraft is sitting there saying, well,

2218
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 1: Bill says, it's it's like Logan Makons. It's like okay,

2219
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 1: but like when you drafted Logan Makons, like you had

2220
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, so like you could draft a guard in

2221
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:31,720
Speaker 1: the first round like this is not tom Brady would

2222
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 1: make the guard better, right, That's what he did to

2223
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:35,559
Speaker 1: all his life. But but you had a Super Bowl

2224
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 1: roster already and you were just looking to fill holes

2225
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 1: at that point in your lineup, and Logan Makons was

2226
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 1: was plugging play. Now you need Tom Brady like you

2227
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 1: need those you need the stars, you don't need Cole

2228
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:50,320
Speaker 1: Strangers of the world. Right. Well, it's like Buffalo taking

2229
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 1: Osiris Torrance, you know, at the end of the first

2230
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,160
Speaker 1: round this year, which is like there you are. That's

2231
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 1: what you're doing right now. You're drafting the best guard

2232
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 1: down there at the bottom because you can then you've

2233
01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 1: got the pieces. You have the fourteenth overall pick in

2234
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 1: the draft that there's no reason for that pick not

2235
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:06,600
Speaker 1: to be a consensus. Yes, like that guy was a

2236
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 1: top twenty talent in this draft. Four Is this the

2237
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 1: famous Boston Cream By the way, I was thinking the

2238
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:16,759
Speaker 1: same thing. Oh yeah, Oh wow, So you're the Boston

2239
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 1: Twitter Twitter. Oh boy, tip of the cap to you,

2240
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 1: my friend. You you you cracked me up quite frequently. Yes,

2241
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 1: you do. Thank you for your support over the years too,

2242
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:30,120
Speaker 1: chuckle guffaw hello, well even yeah, give him a follow.

2243
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:35,880
Speaker 1: How much time do you devote to your postings? Uh? Well,

2244
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 1: I work for the government, so probably quite a bit.

2245
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thanks for calling, and I appreciate your

2246
01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:46,599
Speaker 1: calling it. He is very funny. It's very funny Boston

2247
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:51,639
Speaker 1: Cream jacket and says big receivers don't fit in well

2248
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:54,559
Speaker 1: in New England because big receivers tend to be prima

2249
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:59,519
Speaker 1: donnas and Belichick has no tolerance big receivers don't fit

2250
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 1: in the Patriots culture. That's not a good well I

2251
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:05,479
Speaker 1: will say this though. I will say this though it

2252
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:08,559
Speaker 1: may not be true anymore, but I think there there

2253
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 1: is something to be said for that in the past

2254
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 1: where Bill didn't want to bring in those big individual

2255
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:20,280
Speaker 1: type personalities into the locker. You know, I just don't

2256
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 1: think look at the way they muzzled him when he

2257
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 1: got here. I don't think the draft that was why. Yeah,

2258
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 1: but when the guys that he has personal like the

2259
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 1: guys that like he's chummed up with Ocho Sinko's if

2260
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:33,280
Speaker 1: there was the reason why he wouldn't do something, there

2261
01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't be so many exceptions to that. Yeah, like Randy

2262
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 1: Moss and Chinko. Yeah, but he's not anti But yeah,

2263
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:47,320
Speaker 1: we're talking I'm talking about. I'm talking about when you're

2264
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 1: bringing in the top wide receiver in the draft, in

2265
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:53,280
Speaker 1: the free agent and paying him big money from the start,

2266
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 1: so he comes into the locker room being, if not

2267
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:59,679
Speaker 1: the highest paid guy, the second to Brady or Moving.

2268
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:02,560
Speaker 1: It's true, No, this is what I Everything you just

2269
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 1: said I agree with. It's it's it's I That's that's

2270
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:09,839
Speaker 1: not said I said. Or drafting that top wide receiver

2271
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 1: in the draft, who's gonna come in on Day one

2272
01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 1: and feel like I'm telling you I don't have any

2273
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 1: proof of this, but I know that that was something

2274
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:19,479
Speaker 1: that Bill was worried about. I don't have any proof

2275
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 1: of this either, but I I really wholeheartedly believe that

2276
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 1: a J. Brown instagram living himself from the parking lot

2277
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 1: after his Top thirty visit here in Foxborough was the

2278
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,640
Speaker 1: reason why they didn't draft him. I I this is

2279
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 1: because I can't look at it from an evaluation standpoint

2280
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:36,040
Speaker 1: and really think that they thought to kill Harry was

2281
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:38,240
Speaker 1: a better prospect than a J. Brown Like it Just

2282
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 1: that blows my mind that that a team is as

2283
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 1: smart as the draft. That's embarrassing. I mean, I hope not.

2284
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:50,719
Speaker 1: I think locker room culture isn't always has been important. Okay,

2285
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 1: and don't the two things, but I let me finish,

2286
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,720
Speaker 1: and I in culture, I include the pecking order of salaries.

2287
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:01,320
Speaker 1: That's always been important. Okay, So why is drafting a

2288
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:03,519
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the first round more of a threat

2289
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:06,640
Speaker 1: to your salary structure than drafting attacking that I make

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Speaker 1: the same No that again, I said salary is important,

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01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 1: but also that attitude of you know, the big guy

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01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:17,560
Speaker 1: on campus on day one and you know, I'm I

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01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 1: just hope that you're not right, because if we're closing

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01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 1: ourselves off to talented players because we don't like the

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01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 1: way they talk. Yeah, that's doing your team with just

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01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:28,880
Speaker 1: I think that's hope you're not. I think that's an

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01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 1: adjustment that Bill has had to make a post Brady.

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01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 1: But I think while Brady was here, that was a

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01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 1: big thing. I think it was if they don't Tandre

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01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 1: Hopkins because of that or I hope you're wrong there

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01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 1: JSN because of that. I think now, like I said,

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01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 1: now you might have to do that because you don't

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01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 1: have Tom Brady. But I think back then he had

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01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 1: the luxury of picking and choosing guys who he thinks

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01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 1: fit into whether it's the salary scheme or the culture scheme.

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01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:01,240
Speaker 1: He could be choosy. But I think we went back

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01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 1: to the system. I think he picks guys that fit

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01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 1: into the system. I agree, and I don't think that

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01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 1: he necessarily thinks that those guys are best fit. Now,

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01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 1: when you get a guy like Moss, he could play

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01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:13,920
Speaker 1: in any system. He could do. You know, Bill used

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01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 1: to say how football smart he was. Yeah, he was.

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01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 1: He was at a level intellectually higher than most. I mean,

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01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean, are you saying that any of the top

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01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 1: receives in the NFL right now couldn't fit into the

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01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 1: Patriot system. That's what they could. That's my point, Like that,

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01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,320
Speaker 1: don't tell me that he's not getting these guys because

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01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in Justin Jefferson or Stefan Diggs because

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01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 1: they're divas. Of course they're divas. But I'm saying now

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01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 1: he can't be choosy anymore. You know, now you can't.

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01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 1: You're staring down the barrel of fourth place in the AFC.

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01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I'm telling you this is freaking out

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01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:45,960
Speaker 1: over here. Yeah, those things were important in the past,

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01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 1: Well you know how they fit into And I don't

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01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 1: think you maximize your championships now I'm rethinking the whole thing.

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01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 1: I think you could. I think you left several titles

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01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 1: on the table now as some reason you couldn't have

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01:55:56,680 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 1: a guy who was confident in your locker. I judging

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01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 1: from you know, some of the callers on your station,

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01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 1: I would agree that I think you're not alone. That's

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01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:08,120
Speaker 1: how that moron thinks. He's he's his anti talent at

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01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 1: that position as anybody I've ever met, Mike Felger, I'm

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01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 1: talking about the callers, not Mike, and the callers to Mike.

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01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 1: Mike is anti talent. He hates receivers really, except for

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01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 1: a certain type. Okay, I'm sure he loved a pregnant

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01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure he loved DeVante Abbas when he was with

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01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 1: Green Bay. Uh no, well that's surprising. Probably said he

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01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 1: loves he loves Troy Brown, who loves West Welker They

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01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:44,280
Speaker 1: brandwashed him. He loves Julian Edelman rights for why Weekend?

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01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 1: Oh well, why don't they just wait until the day

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01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:49,320
Speaker 1: three and draft Charlie Jones from Purdue because he ran

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01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:52,480
Speaker 1: a greade forty? Why don't you stop? It didn't look

2343
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:54,840
Speaker 1: like you don't let the guy you're outside to take

2344
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 1: the top off the dude, No one's talking about the

2345
01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,080
Speaker 1: top off the defense. You need guys to make plays,

2346
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 1: right right. That's why I would more than one kind

2347
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:05,640
Speaker 1: of player. When you had Gronk, that was fine with

2348
01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 1: the slot guy. If it was just the slot guy,

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01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:11,600
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have worked. Though. I just get so jealous

2350
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 1: when I watched guys like Deebo Samuel and Justin Jefferson,

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01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 1: and you know, you know they you know now you

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01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:21,360
Speaker 1: tell me they'd help your team. Those guys aren't not diva's,

2353
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:25,240
Speaker 1: of course they are debo. Debo's like taking a video

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01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 1: of the stadium see you in a month, Bill, Like

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01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 1: that's the epitome of a diva. And if that's why

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01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 1: we didn't take them, well, like little Paul Parola wearing

2357
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 1: Patriot footy pajamas. Fanboy is really upset with that. If

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01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:43,120
Speaker 1: we didn't take the guy because he was too brash. Yeah,

2359
01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:47,600
Speaker 1: when Nickissario was talking at the Texans podium last week,

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01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 1: I was I really just wanted like, I just want

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01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 1: to know. I'm not even like I'm not even making

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01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:55,640
Speaker 1: fun of them or or attacking them about it. But

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01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:59,120
Speaker 1: what about Nikkil Harry in that draft made him a

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01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:03,160
Speaker 1: better player then Deebo, samuel A. J. Brown, DK Metcalf,

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01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 1: Terry mcclaure, Like, what was it in your evaluation? Because

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01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 1: if it's if it's Fred's thing that he was the

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01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 1: most humble of arguing with I'm not arguing with Fred's theory,

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01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm just mad about it. There's a

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01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 1: different right. If that was what it was, then I

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01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:22,080
Speaker 1: can't run an get Larry Fitzgerald because he's the like

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01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 1: the model human being at that position. I just like

2372
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:28,040
Speaker 1: not he just didn't Jerry Rice because he was, you know,

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01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 1: two into himself. I would love to just know what

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01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:35,360
Speaker 1: if it If it was a football reason, then what

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01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:38,600
Speaker 1: was the football reason? Because they were on an island

2376
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 1: with that opinion. Yeah, all right, no, no, Mike, Mike Lombardi,

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01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:45,280
Speaker 1: he was, he was with him. They were on an

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01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 1: island that opinion. All right. If you think the DK

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01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:51,120
Speaker 1: metcalf is better than Keneel Harry, you're an idiot. All right.

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Speaker 1: That's it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We finished

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01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:56,840
Speaker 1: on a high note. We'll be back Thursday with more

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01:58:57,160 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 1: Catch twenty two, also on Thursday. We'll see you then.

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