1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy You Tips podcast because 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Rod didn't caring. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Are hot. 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 3: The feedback stuff you can leave it in the show notes. Okay, 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 3: that's the easiest way to see how to get in 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: touch with us so you can be heard and get 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: your opinion out there. Okay, we give our opinions. We 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 3: are fielding your opinions. Also, today's a big day, you know, 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: because official Weabinar show is Okay you got got Good 10 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 3: and the unofficial sport what about at Bulletbard Extreme. But 11 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: today's a big day because it's an anniversary of the podcast. 12 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 4: It's our pot adversary. 13 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: Yes, it's fourteen years Yeah. 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: Fourteen years ago we sat down for the first time 15 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: and recorded this thing three times. 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Is that it felt like ten Yeah, it felt like 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: forty five trips to best Buy. 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: Bought two new computers from best Buy that day because 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 3: we had to buy one, return it and get another 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 3: one because the sound card was broke, and we recorded 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: it with Mike we I literally learned how to like 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: to podcast that day and how to hook something up 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 3: to put it on an RSS feed. I learned everything 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: pretty much trialing there that day so that you got 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: our first ever episode in twenty fourteen called the love Cast. 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a whole lot simpler now, like all the 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: tunes and all the all you got to do is 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: record straight for your phone. None of that shit existed 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: like you was out there, like the people, like the 30 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: people who had to learn how the code for their 31 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: MySpace pages. 32 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, the number one, the love Cast. 33 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: It's forty minutes and fifty nine seconds and it sounds 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: totally different than what you're hearing out it does. 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: We had no sound boy. We did have music, oh 36 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: in the background, but like we. 37 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: Started, we used to start with music. We play a 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: song before the you could get like the this is 39 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: before we knew anything about copyright launch ship. That's that's 40 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: to play a whole song, nobody, dude. 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: And when when I met music, I'm like soundboard. Yeah, 42 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: we have a soundboard. 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: We put the microphone on our desktop with desktop speakers 44 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: and we would play music through the speaker. We played 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: voice and that's how you heard us. That's how you 46 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: heard voicemails. We would have guests. 47 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 4: We would play them a bitch like a. 48 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 2: Captfire. 49 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: Well, we had online guess, we had online guests. We 50 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 3: would play skyte through our speakers. On our desktop next 51 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: to the microphone and we would sit there and record 52 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 3: with some fish. 53 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 4: There's all kinds of girls in there. 54 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know what you call it. 55 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 4: That thing comes out the river and it starts killing killing. 56 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: Gosh, some people had some nasty deaths in this movie. 57 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, they ripping off arms. They're like just bike par 58 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 4: schwanting everywhere. It's awesome. 59 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 3: And it doesn't look like straight to DVD, a low 60 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: budget like you would think, so, who who are these people? 61 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: That was when we did movie reviews and stuff on 62 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 3: the show. We did our first episode we do a 63 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: movie review for Avatar the Host. 64 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: The first one, yeah, the Host. 65 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: Which was what we were talking about here, which was 66 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: a dope ass movie Exiled and Deliverance TV. 67 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 4: Like we just we were just out here doing whatever. 68 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: We were just out here and on top of ass. 69 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: One of those days too, when you sit back and think, 70 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: what's hilarious now because of what everything has kind of 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: morphed into. I remember the first episode we had, we 72 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: had like a list of shit we would not talk about. 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: It's what we tell people. I was like, you don't 74 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: never know what your show or girl way too. It 75 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: was like we ain't talked about politics. 76 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: We were like we learned how a whole and not 77 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: be like fuck Donald Trump. 78 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 79 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, happy potversary to us. Have priversary, baby, and. 80 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be here. If there's any. 81 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: Fans that have, if there's any fans that are Day 82 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: ones that like, there's there's a few of y'all that 83 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: are Day ones that's still listen. You know, if you're 84 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: out there, we appreciate you. I know, Shirley Wong was 85 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 3: a day one, like yeah, always writing then always like 86 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: I'm here if it ain't nothing but ten of us 87 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: and what are the tea yep? So you know, people 88 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: always say, you know, anyway, I'm listen. The people loved 89 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: us and. 90 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: With I mean go ahead and talk. 91 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: I mean no, no, I don't feel like talking all 92 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 3: day just to be talking. 93 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 4: But uh what I was I was gonna say. 94 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: People always say that thing about like if you ain't gotten, 95 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: if so and so got any haters, then I'm one. 96 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: If they only got one haters me, and if I'm dead, 97 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: if they got no haters, it me and I died. 98 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 4: I got there's people. 99 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: I'm saying, there's people that give us the opposite energy, 100 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 3: and I just want to thank them for that. 101 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: But you know, we got to get into the show. 102 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the people that went to our website 103 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: and gave us money, that donated. 104 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: Man, we're now listening to Charlton Rod and Karen. 105 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 5: We welcome the good folks who tied to the tips. 106 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 3: That's right, new, uh potniversary new, I don't know monetary 107 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 3: get on Zach from the Living Corporate Podcast, Lawrence C. 108 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Preston, Team dro aka Slang of 109 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: Agents podcast, dotstry j T, Nicia G. So let's bond 110 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 3: be Mariano uh, Adam S, Jason F. 111 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 4: And lastly Tyrone M call them. Uh. 112 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: Thank you everybody that took the time out to donate 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 3: to the show. It keeps us a flow that makes 114 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 3: it work. It shows you appreciate us, and we thank you. 115 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 6: All right. 116 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 3: Five star reviews we got I think a couple of 117 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: new ones. If not, I'm reading one again because I 118 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: just don't remember reading it. 119 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 4: But here we oh, no, no, it is new, it 120 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 4: is new. 121 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: Okay, well it's the new year, so I forget what 122 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: the date was last Saturday, so anyway, don't worry about that. 123 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: The best show around from Survey says, who says this 124 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: show is hilarious, riding, carrying out down to earth people 125 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: who keep it real and have grown a great community 126 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: through their podcast, live shows and mailing Christmas cards to fans. 127 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: That's right, you know you want some, but then else 128 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: in your mailbox besides regretting scams. 129 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: Regretting scams, right. 130 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: When you like, when you like some other than a 131 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: flyer that you that you that just says when you 132 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: like some mail that's actually addressed tea you for a change. 133 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: It's not to the current resident, the cabo, to the 134 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: last person that lived there, got scam and it ain't 135 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 3: a bill. Listen to this show so you can learn, 136 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: laugh and grow with this awesome show. Don't forget the tip. 137 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: Thank you, sir, says thank you for the United States 138 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: of America. Also from the United States of America is 139 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: Koreani B who says, need to laugh listen now. For 140 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: over ten years this podcast has had me cracking up. 141 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: Not only does this married couple show the black community 142 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: Love twenty four to seven, they also bring humor and 143 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: inclusion to their discussion, start provoking, dynamic and fun. 144 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 4: Listen now with Love and admiration. Koreani or it's koreyanzi 145 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: okay kore yanzi quait koreanis okay, koranis uh uh oh kooranis. 146 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 4: We have some art that you made for us. 147 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: It's it's still sitting in the other room and like 148 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: our little art COVID cold. 149 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: We've been having like a cove and so we've had 150 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: stuff that people have sent us over the years. Yeah, 151 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: like hang it up in there, and so we have 152 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: some beautiful stuff, and yeah, i'd be bragging. 153 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: On y'all, like y'all my keys. I'm like, yes, I 154 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: fan sid this. 155 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was. 156 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: I was framing you know that print that we got 157 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: like last week or so I gotta get another frame 158 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: because the frame I got, I don't know how to 159 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: hang it. But uh but yeah I was framing some 160 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: aren't And I was just looking around at some of 161 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: the stuff people have sent us over the years that 162 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: we have hanging up in the house. Beautiful and uh yeah, 163 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: that's what a serendipitous uh moment. But yeah, kranis art 164 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: inspires keeping your life together consulting. Uh so you know, 165 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: google that if y'all need to get y'all life together okay, 166 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: And so that's it for the reviews and for the donations. 167 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: Let's get into the people and the comments that they 168 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: left on the website. Uh, let me play a little 169 00:08:54,720 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: a little diddy for him, though, Psycho. 170 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 6: Like, I'm gonna sucker for some horns. 171 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: I love a good horn, don't matter what is on 172 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: a horn. Come in the background. I'm hooked. All right. 173 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the comments that you left on our website, 174 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 3: starting of course, with our first with our feedback episode 175 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 3: twenty eight, twenty nine. 176 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 4: Soul of a Printer one of the worst things you 177 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 4: can ever call anybody. 178 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: Come on, it ain't it down. 179 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: This is sultine, Apia says, I'm so glad that you 180 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: appreciate the meanness of the insult soul of a printer. 181 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 3: I was very happy when I came up with it. 182 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: We have more successful women now and people are not 183 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: sure who they supposed to date. In my opinion, whoever 184 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 3: they want, But somehow they should find a similarly successful man. 185 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 4: And this is hard. 186 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 3: When this woman is so high on the top, she 187 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: so should she stay alone and pay for the price 188 00:09:59,360 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: for her success. 189 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: That's it. I'm against this. 190 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 3: And somehow when a woman is successful in something, she 191 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: should also be super hoigh and put as much time 192 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: to her appearance as in her other work, or as 193 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 3: much as an Instagram model does whose job is being 194 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: hot and nothing else. I respect this, but it takes 195 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 3: time you can only spend once. I'm not even given 196 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 3: specific examples, because I think Simona is very pretty, as 197 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: is her husband. 198 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 4: It should be okay for a woman who. 199 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: Is super successful, who's a super successful athlete, for example, 200 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: or scientists or a businesswoman to look okay and dat 201 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 3: a man who is very hot if that is what 202 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: she wants and who has it, and who has such 203 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 3: a great career as she does, if he is also 204 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 3: into the arrangement, why not. 205 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: It's fine when men do it. 206 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: When we were teenagers, a friend of mine I'm still 207 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: friends with her today said I'm happy with the level 208 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 3: of beauty I'm at. I wouldn't wish for more. This 209 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: would only create more attention for the wrong reasons. At 210 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: that time, I didn't get it, but this was pretty smart. 211 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: It's good to have developed other skills. And then she 212 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: said we both today and as a link to Instagram, 213 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 3: oh with her and her friend. Okay, all right, so 214 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: we'll show the world you and your friends, says you 215 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: send it. I imagine, I imagine you're okay with us 216 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: showing everybody, But that's her and her friends still cool 217 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: to this day day once. You love to see it, Okay, 218 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: shout out to it. Yeah, I mean, so, this is 219 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: the problem with all these conversations. People are mixing macro 220 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 3: and micro and and it just kicks everybody's ass. The 221 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: dating stuff is at once extremely personal and subjective and 222 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: at the same time extremely The way that the world 223 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: is set up with patriarchy and all these different things, 224 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: misogyny and whatnot, is extremely you know, impersonal. So then 225 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: we look at people's interpersonal, singular relationships and go, why 226 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: doesn't that check the boxes of all the macro causes 227 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: I'm a part of? And if it doesn't, we try 228 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: to eviscerate it. The real problem is no relationship checks 229 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: all those boxes. They do period, period. It doesn't matter 230 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 3: how well you think the relationship is whatever. If you 231 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 3: were to know every single moment in detail of somebody's relationship, 232 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: you're gonna find something because and the reason I know 233 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: this is because all of y'all's relationships is the same way. 234 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 4: People be into now. 235 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: But a big part of this whole conversation about Simona 236 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 3: has been about people fronting in the first place. 237 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 4: Yes, it's been about people being triggered and people wanting 238 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 4: this perfect thing. 239 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: Any time when these celebrities comes out and exposes any 240 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: level of I don't fit every stereotype, we don't actually 241 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: know how to handle it. We say we want to 242 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 3: normalize certain stuff, but we actually do not. And so 243 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 3: this is why I say I don't feel like I 244 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 3: know these celebrities. I try not to project too much 245 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 3: onto them because I think people deserve freedom and autonomy, 246 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: and most of the people talking no off, no one 247 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 3: gives a fuck about them, right, So they get to 248 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: have their picture with their. 249 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 4: Man who's not perfect. 250 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: We not going on his page to see that he's 251 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: saying a perfect thing all the time. We never sat 252 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: in their house and had dinner with them and he 253 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 3: made some joke that we were like, oh, that doesn't 254 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: fit the feminist agenda. We've never seen her and watched 255 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: her laugh and roll her eyes and go oh, Jonathan 256 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: or whatever the fuck. We don't have those moments. But 257 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: what those people are telling you is that they've had 258 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 3: that Triggers are saying I've had some type of moment 259 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: with somebody and I've decided that Jonathan Owens and Simon 260 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: Bows are those people. And I won't even get into 261 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: like what I consider to be kind of a blatant 262 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: disrespect of Simon Boughs at this point, because she chose 263 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: this man. She telling people it's not what y'all think 264 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: it is, and people that have seen snippets do not 265 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 3: know her life like that at all, are like, it 266 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 3: is what we say it is, and he's a narcissist 267 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: and you're a fucking bird and if you defend him, 268 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: you just like I hope your relationship sours and fucks 269 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: up and he's gonna cheat on you and bring a 270 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: baby home and shit, and it's such projection. I've low 271 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: key just been like like muting people and just like 272 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: let me stay away, because like, if you're on this 273 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: a month later, it's you. It's you, it's not them, 274 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: you know, because they really ain't really giving us much 275 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: to think about how much content it was created off 276 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: of a lot of these people that one saw a 277 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 3: couple minute snippet or like saw her response or something. 278 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: And it's been weeks that says a lot. 279 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: So that's what I'm looking at, and I don't like 280 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: everything you said is cool, but also everything you said 281 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: could apply a different way to a different person, and 282 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: it hits different people differently in all this shit. And 283 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: the last thing I'll say is there's also something that 284 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: we have to examine. I think, or should people should 285 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: self examine. There's this thing that we want. People want 286 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: the patriarchy and the chivalry when they want it how 287 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: they want it, but not the rest of it. And unfortunately, 288 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: patriarchy is not that much of an ala carte thing 289 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: as far as society is concerned. 290 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 4: The macro, not the micro, and the micro we do 291 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 4: it all the time. 292 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: So I don't know why people are trying to make 293 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: Simone and her relationship out to be like this. 294 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 4: This un we've never seen nothing. This is such abuse. 295 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: This is the I don't even know why we get 296 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: going to hyperbole with it because we know that this 297 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: is this is something Everyone has to choose their battles 298 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: and how they deal with it in their lives period. 299 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: So you know, you may want the door open for you, 300 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 3: and you may want them filling up your gas tank 301 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: and paying for the meals and cutting the grass and 302 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: da da da da. But you also may be like, 303 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: I don't want to be the one to cook you 304 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying As a woman, that's not something 305 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: I believe in. 306 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: But I do believe in this nigga paying the rent. 307 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 6: Or whatever, you know what. 308 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: And if that's your choice, that's your choice. Not everyone 309 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: needs to live up to like what the bell Hook's 310 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: doctrine is or what the right like. I think people 311 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: pick and choose. That choice is the real freedom. And 312 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: as long as it's consensual and not like abusive, I 313 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: don't really know what the problem is, and I'm not 314 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: gonna just assume abuse and stuff like that off of 315 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: some clip. 316 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 4: I need more than that. 317 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: And also, these people are alive and well and speak 318 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: for themselves. So if that person says it's abusive, I'm 319 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 3: much more likely to be like, Okay, I hear what 320 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: you're saying, as opposed to some people on the internet 321 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: deciding that for that person, I can't treat y'all stuff 322 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: as facts because I've seen how often you're wrong. 323 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of times, particularly with the Internet, 324 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: it goes whatever the rivers and the flows take them. 325 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: So you're praising her when. 326 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: She's out there flipping with the twisties and having a 327 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: hard time and winning all the gold medals. 328 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: It's black girl magic as we love you. 329 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: It's a girl beat through white women asses have a 330 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: people feel, you know, I'm not I'm just saying what 331 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: I see on the internet, and then. 332 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: When it comes to this, it's like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 333 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: no no no. 334 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 3: You know. 335 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: So it's like. 336 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: A lot of people are projecting off of past relationships 337 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: and things that they've been through, and like you say, 338 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: relationships are complicated, and nobody won't admit that shit is complicated. 339 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: It's gray, it's messy. Nobody's relationship, No one's relationship lives 340 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: up to these ridiculous standards. 341 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 3: I think also a lot of these people can't relate 342 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: to some mom's mentality because they losers, you know, Like 343 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: she's a winner, she's the best in the world. I 344 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: don't think she's She does not see any threat in 345 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: her man thinking he's the shit, right, she just doesn't. 346 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 3: And I don't like other people have seen men that 347 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: think they're the shit and they're just you know, and 348 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: they think about like how ego maniaco they were, or 349 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 3: how much of a narcissist, they were, or like, I 350 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: don't care if you have to lie to the world, 351 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 3: which is how I think most people. This is the 352 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 3: part of it that I'm like, this is what really 353 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: triggered y'all. He didn't lie to the world about how 354 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 3: they got together, right, You needed him to lie, But 355 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: because he told his truth, now it has to be 356 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: a lie because you don't want to live in this 357 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: world where like she was the one that pursued him 358 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 3: and he really didn't know how big a deal she 359 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 3: was and until they got together, and you don't want 360 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: to believe that. You need it to be a different 361 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 3: way because your reality on the internet is more important 362 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 3: than real their truth, and especially without him doing like 363 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 3: you know, the thing that almost all the wife guys do, 364 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: Like my wife is the greatest thing, you know, if anything. 365 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: I put her through so much to even be with me, 366 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: and I'm so thankful every day. It's like there's no 367 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: I remember some one on Twitter a long time ago. 368 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 3: It's like twenty ten asked this. 369 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: Thing like how come men don't know how to compliment women? 370 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 4: And blah blah blah. 371 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 3: Right, and so all these different men took the bait 372 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: and start quote tweeting this thing or replying to it 373 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 3: with their version of like, this is how you compliment 374 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 3: your woman. And I watched every single one be dissected 375 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: by people in bad faith who eventually there was not 376 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: the right way. And then, and for the record, there 377 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: was no woman who suggested something that was like and 378 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 3: this is the right way. There was always something wrong 379 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 3: because a lot of it's projection, a lot of it's 380 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: based on trust and history with each other. And so 381 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 3: if you don't have that with a person, it really 382 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: doesn't matter what they say. If they say I love 383 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: her because I wake up every morning, I choose her 384 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 3: every morning to be with her and to stay with her, 385 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: and blah blah blah, there'll be somebody else that'll be like, 386 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 3: you don't sound thanks, so you choose her, she don't 387 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 3: choose you. You know, like there's a way you know, Oh, 388 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 3: I love her so much because she's so pretty. Oh, 389 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: because she's pretty. That's so, it's all physical, It's all okay, 390 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: I love her because she's oh. So it's not because 391 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 3: of how she looks, it's because so you like you 392 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: attracted to you. If it's bad faith, it's bad faith 393 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: and bad faith is pretty much what gender wars are about. Yes, 394 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: it is pretty much what the issues between men and women, 395 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 3: especially within the black community, are based on. 396 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 4: It's that there is no trust there. 397 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: So when you see a relationship that has trust, you'll 398 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 3: never know how to take it because you're not ever 399 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: gonna give them a benefit of the doubt that they 400 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 3: trust each other and that they are okay with that. 401 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: It's like I said, it's me and Karen making jokes 402 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: with each other that I would never make in front 403 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: of y'all because y'all don't know about the trust we 404 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 3: have in here. It's stuff that we say to each 405 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: other where we're like because that would never ever happen 406 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: in a million years. 407 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 4: That's hilarious, you know, it's funny to us. 408 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, But like the one night something was happening here 409 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh no, Karen want to play 410 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 3: a video game in the bedroom. 411 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 4: And I was like, fine, and I'll leave. 412 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: I'm going up to streak the club Onyx, you know 413 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 3: or whatever, which is a strip club. And I can 414 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 3: make that joke because I'm gonna go in the living 415 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: room and watch TV. I've always done that and I'm 416 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: never gone to club on it, And I'm not mad 417 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 3: and all that shit, but if there was, if her 418 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 3: life was informed by some other dude that did do 419 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: weird shit like that, not I don't want to say 420 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: whatever they did manipulative shit like that or whatever, that 421 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 3: might be a trigger. 422 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 6: In a way. 423 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 4: It's like, man, fuck Rod. 424 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: And if y'all saw just that snippet or I told 425 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 3: y'all that story out of context and y'all didn't listening 426 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 3: to hundreds of hours of us on this podcast, there's 427 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 3: people that would have been like, man, fuck Ride, He's 428 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: a piece of shit. What kind of joke is that 429 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 3: he gonna go to the strip club just because she 430 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: want to play video games. It's a trust thing that 431 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 3: and I think people can't possibly understand that because they've 432 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 3: had their trust violated and and and their triggers are different. 433 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 3: And I'm coming from a place of security, meaning that 434 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: you know, the relationships of my life for the most part, 435 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: have been pretty solid. So I'm filling in the gaps 436 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 3: with security on my on my projection of like, yeah, 437 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 3: they seem fine to me unless they tell me otherwise. 438 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 3: So That's how I've been approaching it. But I think 439 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 3: a lot of people need to figure out why they 440 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: need to lie to kick it. You know, y'all people 441 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: that do rollouts of they man, how many people got 442 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 3: a man? But you can't even put his picture on 443 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 3: the ground yet. 444 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, we seeing show the blades, we see ham bows, 445 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: we seeing feet. 446 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 4: You know, or you just you on vacation. 447 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: Somebody holding the camera says, but like, that's the world 448 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: we live in, one of projection and insecurity, and no 449 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 3: one wants to show us the process. 450 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 4: They want to show us the before and the after. Pick. 451 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: They don't want to show us the struggle. They don't 452 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 3: want to show us the falls. They want to show 453 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: us the success. And so a lot of people aren't 454 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 3: ready for that. We haven't normalized that. But that is 455 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 3: the real reality that we're supposed to be trying to 456 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 3: live in and where this all this internet shit is 457 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: fake in that way, and that very few people show 458 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 3: the process and the guts of it and the imperfections 459 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 3: of it. And that's what Simon and Jonathan did. That's 460 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: the true violation of every everything is they showed us 461 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 3: the guts. They showed us something real, They showed us 462 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 3: something that wasn't just for show. And they feel comfortable 463 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: doing that, probably possibly partially because they are public athletes, 464 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 3: and I don't know if y'all know how to act 465 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 3: their skill set. 466 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: Some jobs work. 467 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 3: There's nothing more brutally honest than their professions, right, because 468 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: you don't get that. 469 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 4: There's no lie to kick it, there's no we all 470 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: saw the camera. 471 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 3: If you got burned on that pass play, we all 472 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 3: saw Jonathan Owens get burned. If Simone falls on one 473 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 3: of her flips, we all see it. If it's not tight, 474 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: the judges are right there when she's practicing. There's probably 475 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 3: no one in the world harder on herself than her. 476 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 3: So like them living in like an honesty that to 477 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 3: me did not seem mean, but did seem openly honest. Right, 478 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: I think that's just the way I life for them, 479 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 3: So unless I hear or see otherwise, I don't need 480 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: to project onto it. And I'm not neither one of them, 481 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: so it's not my problem, right, Shoe Boody says, Yo, 482 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: This reminds me I haven't had chicken paprikash in a 483 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: long time, so good the good paprika comes into ten 484 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: usually some Hungarian brand. I agree, most of the paprika 485 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 3: seen bland and are just the color. Yeah, the smoky 486 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 3: thing do taste like something. I gotta give them that. 487 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 3: And now I have to look into this chicken paprikash 488 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: episode at a recipe. I don't know how to make it, 489 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 3: but I can find one. Tanya W forty two says 490 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 3: I did vote yes on the New Year's Eve po 491 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: but I have to quantify. I'm uptown away from the 492 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 3: Mayhem and went out to dinner at five pm at 493 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: a place and walking distance they went, then went back 494 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: home for champagne. A great music documentary immediate family warning 495 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: is mostly white except for Steve Jordan, who is the 496 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 3: current drummer for the Rolling Stones, and then went to 497 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 3: sleep before midnight. 498 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 4: Perfect. Yeah. 499 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: I don't really watch most a lot of music documentary, 500 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 3: so I haven't seen that woman probably won't, but I 501 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: appreciate the suggestion that it sounds like a pretty dope 502 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: New Year's Eve. 503 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 2: For people out there that want to love documentaries, don't 504 00:24:59,440 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 2: check up out. 505 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: Ms Barne says, I voted yes and the poe, but 506 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 4: I do a five K. 507 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 3: At the top of the year. The run walk starts 508 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: at midnight when the ball drops. This year, it was 509 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: a little tough, however it was done. It's a nice 510 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 3: start to my new year to do this. 511 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 4: Five K. Also, are you coming over to the arby side? 512 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 6: Rod? 513 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 4: Did I hear that right? And the replay praise eve 514 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 4: e A, I'm in Yeah, man, I'm done. Y'all got it? Okay? 515 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 3: I never said the food was nasty roast beef for 516 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: us over, but yeah, that's my new year's resolution. I'm 517 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: gonna try to stay off of shitting on Arby's, even 518 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 3: though you know, nothing has changed in my opinion about 519 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 3: you know how they're obviously grifting. I never said that 520 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: the food was bad or the commercials were bad or 521 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: anything like that. Just you know, they give ninety six 522 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 3: percent of their money to the Republicans. You give a 523 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 3: dollar to Arby's, basically all of it go to Republicans. 524 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 3: There you go, hustle. 525 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: No. 526 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 3: Flow says voted yes in the poll because I went 527 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 3: to watch Night Service saying. Agne says, twenty twenty four 528 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: is gonna be another stellar year for the blackout to 529 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 3: his bread had more. I wanted to say, as y'all 530 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: brought up some good stuff on rights and black art, 531 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: but I have to save that for another time. I'm 532 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 3: just happy to be here and glad y'all wrapped the blackness. 533 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 4: The way y'all do. Love y'all, Thank you, thank you. 534 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 3: Let's see if there's any comments on YouTube for this 535 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: episode there too. Jay full says HP print is extortion. 536 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 6: I agree. 537 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 3: Swaveyp says maybe it's just me, but didn't nobody else 538 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 3: seem to catch the sarcasm from Simone's husband when he 539 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 3: was saying he was the catch and the Pivot house 540 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 3: playing it up as well. I thought it was sarcasm, 541 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: which is why Simona everyone else was laughing, but maybe 542 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 3: on tripping. But even if he was being cheeky, it 543 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 3: really isn't that serious gender wars as a stop. 544 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it could be sarcasm. 545 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna front because when I saw the clip 546 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: and it was how they started the question was comedic 547 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: with the guys like. 548 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 4: How sexy red? 549 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 7: You know? 550 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: He was like they start talking the two light skin, well, 551 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 3: the light skin dude, that's the co host start talking 552 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: to Jonathan Owens like we both light skinned brothers, and 553 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: how did you pull small vows? But even as a joke, 554 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 3: they to me, it's like banter and talk because when 555 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: he said, you know, I mean she pulled me. Everybody's like, whoa, 556 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: hold on now, Like it was a funny vibe in 557 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: the room. It's just once you go into the internet, 558 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 3: motherfuckers really want to take it the worst way. And 559 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: the clip they put out from the pivot kind of 560 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: like I saw how that clip was meant to promote 561 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 3: the show in a way of like whoa, whoa, whoa, 562 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: he wow for this's I just don't think that Ryan 563 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: Clark and them took the next step in thought, oh yeah, 564 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 3: the internet will fucking destroy this clip because motherfuckers are miserable. 565 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: I think they really thought everyone would look at it 566 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: the way they did in the room, which is roll 567 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 3: your eyes, laugh a little bit, and then you hear 568 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: the story how they got together and isn't that wild? 569 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 4: And then you move on. 570 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: Because got stuck and some of the biggings still stuck, 571 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: still stall later. 572 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 4: Shout out to see thirty days. 573 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 3: But okay, I've been my best friend. Okay, it's getting 574 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 3: the workout plan, all right, let's look at the pole and. 575 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 4: That stuff. So the poll, did you go out on 576 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 4: New Year's Eve? Yes or no? Twenty three percent of 577 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 4: people did. Seventy six percent of people did not. We 578 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 4: stayed there. 579 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: And I don't know, not for everybody, but once you 580 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: cross a certain age, you like, uh nigga, no, like 581 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,239 Speaker 1: you know, for a lot of people, once they get 582 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: to a certain age, it's like, yeah, let me go 583 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: ahead and put this at the house. 584 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: I've never been to go out on New Year's Eve person, 585 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: no matter what age I was, I can't even say yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 586 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 3: you've never been like that. 587 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's just not my thing. 588 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 3: But uh, for Spotify, nineteen percent said yes, eighty percent 589 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 3: said no. So seemed like most of our artients stayed inside. 590 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: And yeah, I think, like you said, age and all 591 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: that stuff too. 592 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: Kids. 593 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: A lot of times people had kids and shit like 594 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: we can't be in COVID. Yes, they like, I don't 595 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: want to get sick, right, A lot of. 596 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 4: Reasons stay and just listen to people shoot guns. 597 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: She five works half to night, keep you up, and 598 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: then it was just happy New Year was a Q 599 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: and a happy New Year's you and Karen says. 600 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 7: MS. 601 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: Barnes Ara says, regarding someone Bounce discourse, I got accepted 602 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: in the rio from my friend who also got an invite, 603 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: and we're just regular degular people with nine to five 604 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: jobs and a bunch of debt. 605 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 4: It's not just for the celebrities. 606 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, you know, That's all I was trying 607 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 3: to explain, you know, But I think once shit gets 608 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: to conspiratorial levels on the. 609 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 4: Internet, they need certain things to be true in their argument. 610 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 4: So all of a sudden, it was how could he 611 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 4: not know who she was? 612 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: They were on Rio and you're like, because regular motherfuckers 613 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 3: are on Riot too, don't Just because the app is 614 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: using that as advertising doesn't make it true. 615 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: Right. 616 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 3: It's like saying everybody on Christian mingos Christian and like that. 617 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: There's no way they can verify that. But what it 618 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 3: really means you will verify your identity. 619 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: Yep. 620 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: M Nicole says, Happy New Year, Rael Lafayette, I mean 621 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 3: laye if. Harry says, Happy New Year from your multiversal nexus, 622 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: Hustler cousin, wishing the black outest nation of great twenty 623 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 3: twenty four. Now make sure to support my brand new 624 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 3: code now that we made peace with Arby's Gang. Love 625 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 3: you all, hahah, Alamney says, being sworn in on the 626 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: first of the month. 627 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 4: I missed my uncle Charles y'all see y'all at the 628 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 4: council row. Congratulations. 629 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 3: Kisher says, Happy New Year, homies, and Michelle's hays Happy 630 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 3: New Year's to y'all. All right, let's go to the 631 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: next episode, which is Social Justice Death Penalty. We had 632 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 3: jail Covi in on this episode and we got six comments. 633 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 3: Appia says, thank you for doing the show in this 634 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 3: time where most other podcasters are giving us a reva 635 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 3: and at best I don't need revas. 636 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: I could download the old episode on my own or nothing. 637 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, they need to re so they can get to 638 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: still get the ads and the clicks and the download 639 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 3: numbers because I know when we take a break, our 640 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: downloads like they a lot of the stuff on the 641 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff on your podcast host works and like, 642 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: oh what was your average last week? That's your new 643 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 3: such and such. So they just trying to keep y' 644 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: all clicking on shit. That's all eleven out of ten 645 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: stars for the work ethic. 646 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 6: Thank you. 647 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 3: I don't watch any sports ever because I don't care 648 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 3: now will turn into a turning into a moral issue. 649 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: I would so much love me some sports, but I'm 650 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 3: afraid to support some abusers, so I made this heavy 651 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: sacrifice and don't do it much like a gay Catholic 652 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: priest who says he's unfortunately can't marry a woman because 653 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 3: of God. 654 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 4: Perfect. Yeah, I like to call that a focot. 655 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a focut because jam, most of everybody in life, 656 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: if you dig get this, they gonna be they're gonna 657 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: do some type of thing that you ain't go like. 658 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I love a focost. 659 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 8: I love. 660 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 3: I love when I'm already not fucking with something for 661 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 3: whatever reasons, but normally no political reason, no, just I'm 662 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 3: not into it, and then something bad happened. 663 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: I'll be like, see I was already, I was already 664 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: on it. I wouldn't support no way. 665 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 4: I been told y'all that such and such was whack 666 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 4: or whatever. 667 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 3: And then it'd be like, we'll walk come you didn't really, 668 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I just don't watch uh you know. 669 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 3: It's like it's like when when if the Real Housewives 670 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 3: did something fucked up and I just don't generally watch 671 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 3: reality TV, but they do something real fucked up, and 672 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 3: then I'll be like, see that's why I don't watch it, 673 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 3: and I'm like, that ain't why I don't watch it, 674 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: but I'm gonna cake the folcott you know, Trump women 675 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: wearing the shirt he could grab my pussy is disgusting 676 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: but also progress. Even if they are making fun of 677 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 3: consent culture, they are perfectly executing it here. 678 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 7: Now. 679 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: If the grabbers could please only grab those who consent 680 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 3: to it with a T shirt, thank you. 681 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 4: Problem solved. Yeah, that's the problem. They don't They don't 682 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 4: want the ones that want it. 683 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 2: They was the ones that don't want it, right. 684 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: Ms Cabarr says, thanks for the stellar fucking with black people, 685 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 3: completely not fucked with outstanding. Thank you access as I 686 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 3: am typing this so I don't forget, but carrying your 687 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 3: point on how regular people can cha can change around 688 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 3: the hour and twenty five minute marketing episode can be 689 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 3: complicated and welcome back into society versus celebrities can't be 690 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: allowed to change. 691 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 4: I was not and while listening cause nigga, you was 692 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 4: spitting you are. 693 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 2: Yeah that's a and maybe that's a big thing or 694 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: so I'm not above it. 695 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: I have my flaws and you know, I'm intimator just 696 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: like everybody else, trying to navigate it the best I can. 697 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: But at the same time, me personally, I don't put 698 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: celebrities on pedestals, like I see a lot of people do. 699 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: They claim they they claim they don't, but your actions 700 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: show otherwise, because if you didn't, why we so upset 701 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: about some bowels? Why like like that shit that happens, 702 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's this personal connection and 703 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: all this projection, like that you're family members because technically 704 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: you put them on a pedestal, and then when they 705 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: do something wrong that you don't like, all of a sudden, 706 00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: these feelings and these emotions connected to them based off 707 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: of the music or the entertaining or whatever it jumps out. 708 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: And I know I probably can get caught up in 709 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: it too, but because I when it comes to celebrities like, okay, 710 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: they're people too, and I've always looked at them as 711 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: AA people too. So for me, you know, everybody has 712 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: their their line on certain things. But to me, that's 713 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: why I was like, Okay, yeah, they fucked up, They've 714 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: done fucked up shit, but I still enjoy their music. 715 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: Like like I can specifically draw a line. I don't 716 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: want to be like. 717 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: You fucked up. 718 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: I cannot support nothing you do, never never, never again 719 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: in life fuck you, you must die. 720 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: I don't have that hard line for me personally. 721 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: And truth be told, most things that you listen to 722 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 1: consume eat by if you dig down to it, somebody 723 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: someone's did something fucked up. So are you gonna sit 724 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: somewhere and just not consume anything? No, you just pick 725 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: and choose what you're going to deal with with these people. 726 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: There are people They could do miraculous and marvelous and 727 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: great things in this world and still are fucked up 728 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: human beings. 729 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the reason that we allow regularly 730 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 3: people to do it is because people aren't jealous of 731 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 3: regular people, correct. And that's the hard part about discussing 732 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 3: these things. When it comes to sports, celebrity and stuff, 733 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 3: a huge amount of what people carry in them is 734 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 3: jealousy and envy of the fame and the money, and 735 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 3: it can't be divorced really from their point of view, 736 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 3: because it colors that point of view. And so a 737 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 3: lot of times people couch righteousness in those petty jealous 738 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 3: emotions and it's you know, it's something that honestly, Thank 739 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 3: God for Twitter and the Internet. They that's what woke 740 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 3: me up to it, because I still know to this 741 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 3: day so many people that were activists and ended up 742 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 3: stopped being activists, but their activism was mostly about self promotion, envy, 743 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 3: and jealousy of the people that already were making a 744 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 3: difference or whatever, who they felt were gatekeepers and stuff. 745 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 3: And then it kind of goes away at a time 746 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 3: when they realized like, one is not what it is 747 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 3: cracked up to be, and two they it might not 748 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 3: be achievable, but the jealousy doesn't go away. It's something 749 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 3: that I had to examine in myself. I remember we 750 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: would spending a lot of this podcast, and sometimes we 751 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 3: be talking about these shows that I don't even really 752 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 3: fucking listen to, you know. So it's like a viral 753 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 3: clip of some fucked up thing from the Breakfast Club 754 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 3: goes viral and I'm on the show talking about it. 755 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 4: And it's not because I truly thought like. 756 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 3: It's not and it's not because I was like, well, 757 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 3: actually I'm not offended, but I'm just jealous. I really 758 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 3: did go I disagree with this, But at some point 759 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 3: I was like, why am I giving them another segment 760 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 3: and platform to get their views out there and telling 761 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 3: people about this shit? And why do I give a fuck? 762 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 3: How many people listen to it or don't. It really 763 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 3: isn't my goddamn business. If people want to listen to 764 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 3: us and then go listen to that, that's their right. 765 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 3: If I think they're doing bad work over there, that 766 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 3: is my right to. 767 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 4: Think they don't do good work. 768 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, hey, it's not 769 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 3: so important that I need to like constantly uplift their 770 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 3: point to show you why I disagree with it. We 771 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 3: can just talk about something on our show and we 772 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 3: don't need to put what they said first. We just 773 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 3: want to talk about how we feel about it. And 774 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 3: that was a big moment for me. 775 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 4: And I'm not, like I said, you pick and choose 776 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 4: like there's other times, but I wanted to make sure 777 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 4: that anytime we are discussing somebody or something on this 778 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 4: show that is not, at least for me, coming from 779 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 4: a place of like envy or jealousy, because I actually 780 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 4: find that to be very misleading. 781 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 3: I think it's it feels like power, it feels like 782 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,439 Speaker 3: like whatever, but like righteousness. But a lot of times 783 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 3: if some part of you deep down is like because 784 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 3: I should have that, then I think that that's what 785 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 3: fucks it all up, and so I think definitely with 786 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 3: athletes and celebrities, we end up there most of the 787 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 3: time because most people will be like, this is about 788 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 3: my righteousness. It's like, is it your righteousness? And you 789 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 3: think if I had that money, if I had that platform, 790 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 3: I here's how I would do it, and I deserve it. 791 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 3: I'm better than them. 792 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 4: I don't have. 793 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 3: The reason I don't have what they have is because 794 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 3: I'm better than them. It's one of the reason that 795 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 3: Cat Williams interview resonated with so many people, because there's 796 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 3: a big part of that Cat Williams interview that's mostly 797 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 3: him saying, I just have too much integrity to be 798 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 3: as big as these guys that y'all see is bigger 799 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 3: than me. 800 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 4: But if I had no integrity, of course i'd be 801 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 4: where they are. 802 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 3: If I was willing to suck dicks and wear dresses, 803 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 3: I would be the That's what they did, They must 804 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 3: have done that. 805 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 4: They're less of a man than me. 806 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 3: They're letting you know, like there's a lot of that imply, 807 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 3: and that's why a lot of people relate to it, 808 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 3: because a lot of people feel that way about life. 809 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 3: Everyone ahead of them cheated or they did something or 810 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 3: they have less integrity and that's why they're the manager 811 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 3: at the job. That's why they're the owner of the business. 812 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 3: It's because they're less moral than you are. And I 813 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 3: don't know anybody that's ever worked directly with the public 814 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 3: like you know I have and caring hass I don't 815 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 3: have that high opinion of the general y'all. So I'm 816 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 3: like most people, just most people are pretty opportunistic and 817 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 3: can be shitty if they get the right opportunity. Agree, 818 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 3: I'm not saying everyone, but enough of people are like 819 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 3: that that I don't think it's like only rich people 820 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 3: and celebrities and athletes do that. 821 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, that's pretty much the general tenor of America, right. 822 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,959 Speaker 1: And also to kind of pigyback on what you're talking about. 823 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: For a lot of these people who feel this way, 824 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: and we've because of the Internet and people put so 825 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: much of their life on there. 826 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 2: I've seen people who. 827 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: You can see the things that they do and how 828 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 1: a lot of their things are self centered and then 829 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: when they quote unquote catch the car across the finish 830 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: line and quote unquote get on the other side of it. 831 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: For a lot of people, and I've seen it happen 832 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: multiple times. Their attitude changes. All of a sudden, the 833 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: perspective is different. All of a sudden, They're not the 834 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: one harassing in the justice of whatever their cause is, 835 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: They're being harassed. And so all of a sudden, being 836 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: harassed is different than the harassing to get there. And 837 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: so all of a sudden is compassion and understanding and empathy, 838 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know, their perspective change. 839 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 2: You can get in a room with some of these people, 840 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 2: you can see these people like your view quote unquote changes. 841 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 2: I've seen that happen a lot too. 842 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And like. 843 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 3: I always say, some of my favorite podcasts that I've 844 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 3: ever listened to are podcasts that. 845 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 4: People from people that have been like canceled for lack 846 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 4: of a better term. 847 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 3: I love that because those people have seen both sides 848 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 3: of it, Because especially people that used to be very 849 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 3: active in the like cancelation of other folks and stuff. 850 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 3: I love that ship because it's like, yes, that is 851 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 3: real truth, that is something that is actually real and happening. Uh, 852 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 3: this this thing where you you isn't it wasn't no 853 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 3: fun when the rabbit got the gun, and uh, I 854 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 3: think I know a lot of people will you know, 855 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 3: don't Oh, I don't even know what I just I 856 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,959 Speaker 3: just think a lot of people will tune out people 857 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 3: that got canceled and be like, yeah, that's what you get, 858 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 3: and I'm always like, no, man, I kind of want. 859 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 2: To know because their perspective is different. 860 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of want to see this. 861 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 3: I want to I want to know and see, like 862 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 3: what the fuck is happening with that, because you know, 863 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 3: I remember after like, uh, what was that ship. 864 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 4: Called Universal Fan Con? 865 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 3: Black Girl Nerves podcast eventually came back, and when it 866 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 3: came back, Jamie was on there kind of talking about 867 00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 3: that experience and that platform, uh used to be heavy 868 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 3: on the like kind of canceling other people shit. 869 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 4: You know, like they were. 870 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 3: Pretty heavy on the like, you know, everybody's a bad 871 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 3: person and just listening to us kind of shit. And 872 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 3: so seeing that like unfold to where it's like, oh, 873 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 3: now that I've been on one of these campaigns where 874 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 3: people like target you and they say yeah, they make 875 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 3: stuff up and they say you did stuff that you 876 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 3: didn't do, or they say something that you did in 877 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 3: the most like unkind possible definition of bad faith. Yes, 878 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 3: And to see like that come forward circle and somebody 879 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 3: go that did not feel good. And I gotta like, 880 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 3: look at how I think talk about celebrities and directors 881 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 3: and shit because I don't necessarily know what's happening. I've 882 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 3: been going out here acting like that. I love that 883 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 3: kind of shit, So that's what I'm into. But yeah, Karen, 884 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 3: like you said, hit the nail on the head because 885 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 3: we just's here's a sad part. We don't do that 886 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 3: to each other in person, but I would argue we 887 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 3: do that all the time to regular people now that 888 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 3: we have social media. 889 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,760 Speaker 1: Now, will I one hundred percent agree with that? Because 890 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,919 Speaker 1: and my thing is this, and like you say, maybe 891 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: because of my generation, we don't do that. 892 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 2: The people in they face because they can put. 893 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: Their motherfucking hands on you if you get the talking 894 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: froggy and crazy and shit to them. 895 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,919 Speaker 2: That but a nigga, what the fuck did you say? 896 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: And people don't want to deal with real life interaction 897 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: where they have to be responsible and accountable for the 898 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: worst that come out. 899 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 2: They motherfucking mouse. 900 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 3: All right, Let's get to Sean, who says, once I 901 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 3: have time, I'm going to work have to work on 902 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 3: a drawing concept that I've been thinking about through for 903 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 3: a while. This episode solidified in the style of my 904 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 3: hero Academia. Conceptualized image of Jail COVID with the face 905 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 3: that is half black and half white, clutching the microphone 906 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 3: while being dragged down by tentacle chains labeled the Jail Curse. 907 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 3: Conceptualized images of Ride Transformer as concept and Karen and 908 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 3: Rose with a third eye black in the chain screaming 909 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 3: the blackout tips bump and Jail on the mount of 910 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 3: pig uh. Some Japanese symbols center top, and my hero 911 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 3: ask logo that reads my comedian academia. Now I just 912 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 3: had the sad part is jail and never get the 913 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 3: reference because he don't watch anime. Now I just have 914 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 3: to finish the semester to get time to put this 915 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 3: picture together. I hope I could at least paint a 916 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,240 Speaker 3: mental image. Hopefully I can do justice to that image 917 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 3: and put it together for y'all sometime by the end 918 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 3: of January early February. 919 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 4: I didn't know you did art man, that's dope. 920 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 3: Unless one of my professional artists that listen to you, 921 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 3: one of these professional artists listen to you want. 922 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 4: To put it together. 923 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 3: That's that's dope art. And yeah, we'll see man, I 924 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,479 Speaker 3: can't wait to see it. Eve says, I hope twenty 925 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,919 Speaker 3: twenty four is conder to Jail. 926 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 4: He deserves a big win. I don't even know what 927 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 4: cond of jail looks like. Okay, I don't think jail does. Yeah, 928 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 4: like is it no gigs? And he can finally quit. 929 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: Like actually just quit and just on head and uh 930 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: put the tombstone up and just walk away forever, like 931 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: like the end of a movie, you know how they 932 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: have the trinergy and at the end of it, like 933 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: Batman's dead, we can find us just say, Jail's career 934 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,760 Speaker 1: is dead. He could just walk away into the sunset. 935 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: But knowing Jail, somebody gonna go dig it up and 936 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: we'll have jail again. 937 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 4: So I don't know what. 938 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,800 Speaker 3: I don't know what's happy for Jail, what needs it? 939 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 3: The sweet sweet release and relief of death coming to 940 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 3: his comedy career. And then he goes and moves to 941 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 3: Cleveland and there's a lawyer and just has a dog 942 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 3: and the righteous GF and and moves on or is 943 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 3: it you know, somehow his career blows up. You know, 944 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 3: some somebody sees had black face and goes, goddamn, we've 945 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 3: been sleeping on this man's whole life. 946 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. 947 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 3: And the thing is, because Jail generally trends towards misery, 948 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 3: I don't know that they'll ever I don't. 949 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 4: I don't. 950 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 3: The way I root for Jail is not a and 951 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 3: then his issues will be solved and he'll see the 952 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 3: world in a bright, happy, sunny place positively. 953 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 4: No, I think that's impossible. 954 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 3: So even when things are going great for Jail, they're 955 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 3: never gonna quite be great enough because there's always something 956 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 3: and that's how his brain works. 957 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 4: It's also where a lot of comedy comes from. 958 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: Agreed, the name of the rain on your Parade, it's 959 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: always raining in Jail's life. 960 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 3: Right, So I don't see it as like I think 961 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 3: one of the issues a lot of people have where 962 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 3: either like being his friend or just talking to him 963 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 3: about comedy, or you know, fans of his show that 964 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 3: write in and say stuff. Sometimes one of the issues 965 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 3: I think a lot of them are so over current 966 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 3: issue I've seen over the years is that there's this 967 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 3: like pension to give like platitudes and it's gonna be 968 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 3: okay and it's gonna get better, and da da da dah, 969 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 3: and it's just a waste of time because one it's 970 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 3: not even when it gets better, there's always something. And 971 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 3: then two, Jail needs to get that outlet to be 972 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,399 Speaker 3: able to be like this is how I really feel 973 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 3: about whatever I'm going through, right, And so you know, 974 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 3: I know his. 975 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 2: Brain picks and that's why it works and that's why 976 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 2: I'm here. 977 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 3: So I remember I was talking to Justin one time, 978 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 3: just in real life, hanging out outside, and he told 979 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 3: me what he really appreciated about my friendship is that 980 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 3: you don't have to fake it around me. And when 981 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 3: he was talking, you know, because he was just talking 982 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 3: about something that was going on that he just wasn't 983 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 3: satisfied with. And I think that's something that, you know, 984 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 3: for me, I feel like that's my default. But I 985 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 3: understand why that's rare, because people are so filled with 986 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 3: just like bullshit and platitudes, and we want things to 987 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 3: be better, so we smooth things over and we just 988 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 3: kind of if we don't talk about this is not happening. 989 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 3: And I kind of, you know, as y'all can tell 990 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 3: from the podcast, kind of fight hard to live in 991 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 3: sometimes of simbilance of reality even even when it's not 992 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 3: you know, gonna make me always feel the best. 993 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 4: And so you know, that's that's how I deal with it. 994 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is, even if it's kind of jail, 995 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 3: he'll find a way to tell you why it's not 996 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 3: cond like it's you know, it was always kinder two 997 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,240 Speaker 3: years ago, you know what I'm saying, Like I remember, 998 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 3: like one of the things he'll say now. 999 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 4: Is like, you know, I was trimming down. 1000 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 3: I was doing this, but my shoulders worked da da, 1001 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, but at the time when you 1002 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 3: were talking about that, you were like, not a real 1003 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 3: problem is so that just TikTok bullshit. 1004 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 4: It's fucking up my life. And why the rhythm ain't funny? Yeah, 1005 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 4: So like jail, so you know. 1006 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 3: It always I'm sure if you go all the way 1007 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 3: back to what he feel was his peak days of 1008 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 3: either college or right out of college, and you know, 1009 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 3: late night show, he'll he'll there, if I had. 1010 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,439 Speaker 4: A time machine, I could see jail back, then there'd 1011 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 4: be some way that he's like and this is what's 1012 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 4: fucking wrong, Like it's just it's where it's comedy comes from. 1013 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 2: It's like a Larry David or something. It's super streng It's. 1014 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 3: Like watching Curb and hoping there's like a happy ending 1015 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 3: where it figured it out. It was like, you don't 1016 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 3: get the show anyway, you do not. 1017 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 2: Get the show. 1018 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 4: Sean says, just a thought. 1019 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 3: If Jail can names can get someone named Zack Snyder 1020 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 3: spelled differently to direct quote unquote the original shaky cam footage. 1021 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 3: People may think that it's an artistic choice, leak a 1022 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 3: little bit of the footage and get an online campaign 1023 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 3: to release the Snyder. 1024 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 2: Couldn't make it out dark and shit. 1025 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 4: That's a great point, Sean. 1026 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 3: I personally, I mean I was joking on the show, 1027 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 3: but I mean I definitely thought about like that could. 1028 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:43,919 Speaker 4: Have been the hook. 1029 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 3: Now, look, it probably would not have worked, let's be honest, 1030 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 3: but at this point beggars can't be choosing. Nothing's working 1031 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 3: for jail, So I think they should have put out 1032 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 3: the shaky cam version. 1033 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,839 Speaker 4: Act like it was the gimmick and it's live. 1034 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 3: Be like, guys are taking with this is groundbreaking standing 1035 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 3: This is groundbreaking stand up cinematography. 1036 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,320 Speaker 4: We are going to bring you into the four d 1037 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 4: X real real life experience. 1038 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 3: Experience where when the crowd laughs, you at home will 1039 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 3: see shaking on the camera to let you know how 1040 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 3: fucking funny this guy is. 1041 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 4: The it's the real bravery. 1042 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 3: We're putting out a special that you think doesn't look professional, 1043 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 3: but it is actually light years ahead. And then you 1044 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 3: know years later when other comedians still the concept and 1045 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 3: it's dry Carmichael, but it only shakes a little bit 1046 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 3: because it's more like a. 1047 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 4: Type of laugh as opposed to a roorious laughter. 1048 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I would have did that because that 1049 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have wanted to get let go of the 1050 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 3: first special. 1051 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 4: But that's just me, all right. 1052 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,800 Speaker 3: The poll, I'm sorry, let me check comments on YouTube. 1053 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 3: See I we got any none for this one. But 1054 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 3: let's check the poll. The poll on uh social Justice 1055 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 3: death Penalty was. 1056 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,359 Speaker 4: Have you ever gotten into a physical fight at work? 1057 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 9: Uh? 1058 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 3: Cause we talked about that reverend coming in and whooping 1059 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 3: some ass at McDonald's ninety seven percent no, uh, but 1060 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,359 Speaker 3: two point six percent aka one person yes, And if 1061 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 3: you check the polls on Spotify, ooh, ooh, ooh, fifteen 1062 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 3: percent of y'all have gotten into a physical fight at work. 1063 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 3: Eighty four percent have not fifteen percent seemed high. 1064 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,359 Speaker 4: But wow, oh my god, oh my god, I should 1065 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 4: have asked you'all what the fuck happened? Right? 1066 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 7: Uh. 1067 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 1: I've never got into a a uh physical altercation at work. 1068 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 1: I've had uh times where people have got upset with 1069 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: me and you know, did things that I thought that 1070 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: was inappropriate and shit like this. And I am older 1071 00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,439 Speaker 1: now and so now I just look at you, blake 1072 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 1: my eyes and the mediate leave and go to HR 1073 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 1: like fuck that. Uh, Nope, we're gonna the fuck you 1074 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: think you doing. When I was younger, didn't know no better, 1075 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 1: didn't know how h I worked, it's a little different 1076 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,439 Speaker 1: the funk. I'm gonna lose my job for a fuck 1077 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 1: you bitch, I'm going to report on your ass. Uh. 1078 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never been a physical altercation at work. I've 1079 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 3: worked with some assholes before, but just it never got 1080 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 3: to the point that it was gonna get physical. But 1081 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 3: also it was just kind of it's just ingrained in 1082 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 3: me to be like, you're at work, they're paying you 1083 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 3: not to do shit, right, something that might have got 1084 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 3: somebody's ass for free, uh for you know, ten dollars 1085 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,359 Speaker 3: an hour, Mike, get them a pass cause I got 1086 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 3: on this fucking apron and this goddamn name tag, and 1087 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 3: so you know you you might can say something a 1088 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 3: little rude to me, and I'm like some. 1089 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 4: Mother forgot attitude. I roll my eyes. But if it 1090 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 4: was like, you know, walking down the street, I'd be like, 1091 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 4: who the fuck you think. 1092 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 6: You talking to? 1093 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 2: I agreed? 1094 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 3: Agreed, Yeah, not a cooking oil anointing. Langston says, the 1095 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 3: first fucking with black people still worry. I'm giving it 1096 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 3: it a zero. 1097 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 4: That guy just a kid who made a mistake and 1098 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 4: the shit ruin his bright future. 1099 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 1: Uh. 1100 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,359 Speaker 4: I think he's talking about the folding chair man. MS. 1101 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 3: Barr says, some three three six Piedmont Triad shit. I 1102 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 3: think she's talking about the dude with the chicken blessing 1103 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 3: the I mean the fried grease blessing. Alimney says, want 1104 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 3: to bless this chicken, old Lord of the Lord, Bless 1105 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 3: the chicken of the Lord. Que says, or Key says, 1106 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 3: I'm screaming at y'all talking about Cornell West Patreon because 1107 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 3: he definitely hit me up on Twitter while a while 1108 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 3: back asking for money to support an orphanage or something 1109 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 3: like that. 1110 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, orphan his kids? 1111 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 3: Is that what he's calling should support Sean King senior 1112 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,720 Speaker 3: face ass Damn. 1113 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 4: All right, Uh, let's get to the next episode. 1114 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 3: But first, let me play a little music so we 1115 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 3: could put some uh you know, put a little, pull 1116 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 3: a little, put a little something in the collection. Play 1117 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 3: all right, Episode twenty eight thirty one seven Black People 1118 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 3: Back in twenty twenty three, we got six comments. Shoe 1119 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 3: Booty says, I always thought Dojakat was some weird long 1120 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 3: form performance art piece that Andy Kaufman of female rappers. 1121 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 4: Maybe she'll turn out to be that. I don't know. 1122 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 3: She's pretty talented at rapping on a just an objective level, 1123 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 3: so I think a lot of people are drawn in 1124 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:49,880 Speaker 3: by that. 1125 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 4: But I don't know. 1126 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,800 Speaker 3: I don't know what's up with that woman. I'm not 1127 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 3: much of a fan. I don't really listen to her 1128 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 3: shit like that. 1129 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 4: I don't really. 1130 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 3: Understand like one hundred percent of why she keeps getting passes. 1131 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 3: But my whole life, all my favorite artists and all 1132 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 3: my least favorite artists been getting a pass in hip. 1133 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 4: Hop, So I don't find it to be so like, 1134 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 4: oh my god, how is it possible. 1135 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 2: I don't find no difference. 1136 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 4: I don't I don't. Yeah, so anyway, I don't find 1137 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 4: it to be like a how is it possible? Situation? 1138 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,439 Speaker 3: She just getting hers and she won't be the last 1139 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,359 Speaker 3: to kind of be like, I'm the artist that does 1140 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,720 Speaker 3: a bunch of fucked up regressive shit and whatever. 1141 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 2: And also people pick back back to that shit. People 1142 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:33,879 Speaker 2: pick and choose. 1143 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 1: If it's your favorite Tupac Biggie like some of them, 1144 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 1: everybody get a pass. But if it's this' quote unquote 1145 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 1: new generation, yeah, you don't have no compassion because you 1146 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 1: don't listen to that shit. 1147 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and all these and yeah, it's yeah, they're all 1148 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 4: kind of getting a pass on shit. It's whatever. 1149 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 3: Swabi p says, just wanted to come here and say, 1150 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 3: y'all wrong for that. Jonathan Major's drawn for the show 1151 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 3: art pick shaking my damn head, Happy New Years. I've 1152 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 3: just said I love that completely natural video. Jonathan Major's 1153 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 3: helping those girls make peace. Now do Israel and Palestine. 1154 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 3: Joathan Majors, I believe in you. Maybe he can figure 1155 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,799 Speaker 3: it out. Gina Gates says Tam Scott's girlfriend is right 1156 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,360 Speaker 3: up there with the lizard man in Bigfoot. 1157 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 4: They're still ah ah. 1158 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 3: There will be some grainy blurry footage of her and 1159 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 3: claimed sightings. I think she was AI generated. Did that 1160 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 3: white lady robot that talks ever up here again after 1161 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 3: Tam Scott's girlfriend came on the scene. 1162 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 4: No, that's a good point. Yeah, what happened to that 1163 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 4: white lady robout that talks? 1164 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 2: In turn? And we'll never see her again? 1165 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 3: Even He says, I really hope this becomes an annual 1166 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 3: tradition again. 1167 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:32,800 Speaker 4: I laughed and laughed. 1168 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 3: We may have taken some l's in twenty twenty three, 1169 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 3: but our victories were sweet as well. I think the 1170 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 3: Montgomery Brod set us up for a decade that will 1171 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,439 Speaker 3: forever be a great moment in black history. For real 1172 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 3: hustle no'flow says a garden traditional food pole question. I 1173 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 3: usually eat it on New Year's Day eat not New 1174 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 3: Year's Eve, but definitely had some greens and black eyed 1175 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 3: peas and with the other stuff. Let's see if there's 1176 00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 3: any comments on YouTube for this one. One comment, Travis 1177 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,879 Speaker 3: Kelcey and Chris Evans need the beer to be great 1178 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 3: white men of color. Without the beer, they just cool 1179 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 3: white boys shruga mode, he says, as Carter right, they 1180 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,359 Speaker 3: did lose something with them beers. 1181 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 4: Getting cut off, right, it ain't the same. 1182 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 3: The pole for this episode was did you eat the 1183 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 3: traditional New Year's Eve dinner? 1184 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 8: Yes? 1185 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 10: No? 1186 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 4: Or I don't know what that is? So eight percent 1187 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 4: of the audience does not know what that is. 1188 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 2: I can see that. 1189 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, sixty eight percent did not eat it, and twenty 1190 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 3: four percent did eat that traditional like superstitious meal. 1191 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 2: You know, And I personally think it's just me. 1192 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 1: A lot of it has to go with a lot 1193 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 1: of that tradition is being broke because you know, big 1194 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 1: my great auntie whoever used to have everybody come over 1195 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: their house. A lot of them have passed, you know, 1196 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, truldren. We kind of don't 1197 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 1: keep a lot of those traditions. And you know, for 1198 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 1: a lot of us, it's not that quot unquot important 1199 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 1: to us. So I could see why the number has 1200 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: kind of went down over the years. 1201 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 3: Well, we don't know that it went down. We don't 1202 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 3: know what the number used to be. It might always 1203 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:07,920 Speaker 3: been this percentage. 1204 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, I mean being in the South, more 1205 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: people have a tendency to do it being in South, 1206 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 1: being black. 1207 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 3: Right, But you also were younger, so somebody was doing it. Yes, 1208 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 3: So like if you are, if you're in the extended 1209 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 3: family of my aunt sharing all those kids that would 1210 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 3: be your age back then, you know there now they 1211 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 3: would be like, yeah, we had a traditional dinner. 1212 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying. 1213 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 3: So like we as adults that have choices about what 1214 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 3: we eat because it was never a choice for me. 1215 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 3: It was always always going down somebody's house. But now 1216 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 3: that I'm grown, I'm like, I don't want to eat that. 1217 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that goes back to my whole point. 1218 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 4: No, you said, I think you're missing my point. You 1219 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 4: said the number has lowered. 1220 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 3: I'm saying, did it lower or did we get older 1221 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 3: when we were kids or when we were younger and 1222 00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 3: your mama was making that were was every aunt eating 1223 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 3: that was there? 1224 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 4: Cousins that were grown or siblings that were grown. I 1225 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 4: was like, I'm not eating that shit. And we just 1226 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,600 Speaker 4: never got to poll them. 1227 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm with you now, I'm with you now. 1228 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 1: I was thinking the number was dropping because people like you, 1229 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 1: and it's kind of we're on the same basicak like, yeah, 1230 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 1: people get old. 1231 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 2: People go, I'm not doing that. 1232 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 4: It's dropping. 1233 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 3: You're saying it's dropping if you just look at like 1234 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 3: when I was fourteen to when I'm forty five, I. 1235 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 4: Eat it a lot less. Now I don't eat it. 1236 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm saying, I'm saying the fourteen year olds, now, 1237 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 3: I wonder if they I don't know the answer. I'm 1238 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 3: just wondering if like a function of that was someone 1239 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 3: else cooking dinner anyway, what were they cooking? 1240 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 4: Probably this shit. 1241 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 3: So that's why you eat this on New Year's Eve 1242 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 3: or New Year's Day is because that's who made it. 1243 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 4: You didn't make the shit. 1244 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you didn't have a choice. 1245 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, as people get older, like you say, 1246 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: that choice allows that, in my mind, allows that number 1247 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 1: to drop. 1248 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, as you get older, the number drops. But 1249 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 4: I just yeah, anyway, I'm repeating myself, all right, So 1250 00:59:59,240 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 4: but I do it. 1251 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 2: I do understand what you're saying. 1252 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 3: I'm just wondering if, like our demographic, of course, the 1253 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 3: pole numbers gonna look like that. 1254 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, but you're not doing every quote unquote everyone 1255 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 1: like like this is a poll that their numbers could 1256 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: be going up or down. 1257 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 2: We don't know because we didn't pull. 1258 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 3: I wonder if we polled kids what it would look like, yeah, 1259 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 3: and what and what do kids can consider a traditional? 1260 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 4: No, the traditional not what they consider black, the pento beans, 1261 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 4: the greens, you know, don't care one. 1262 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 3: I also think you're right about region, you know. I 1263 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 3: think you know, if you're from the South, that is 1264 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 3: definitely the tradition. I can't speak for other places, like. 1265 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 1: The most older people houses, the most people houses for Thanksgiving, Eve, 1266 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 1: for New Year's even New Year's Day, this is gonna 1267 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 1: be the meal. 1268 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1269 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 3: So anyway, it's just something interesting to talk about, to 1270 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 3: think about. But all right, so did you eat it? 1271 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 3: Like I said, twenty four percent dead, sixty eight percent 1272 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 3: did not, eight percent don't even know what it is. 1273 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 4: And then for Spotify twenty six. 1274 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 3: Percent, forty eight percent did not, twenty six percent did, 1275 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 3: but twenty five percent of them don't know where it is. 1276 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,440 Speaker 3: So I get So, I guess that's where our non 1277 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 3: traditional listeners are at. 1278 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 1: Non traditional people they just wouldn't raised up like that, 1279 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. Your They family just didn't. 1280 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 1: That wasn't the thing in their household. 1281 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 4: That's what I mean by tradition. Okay, it's all good, 1282 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 4: it's all good. Remember this list was scientifically proving it's. 1283 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 2: The Q and a brain over here, y'all. 1284 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 4: I'm good. 1285 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make it make sense to me. 1286 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 4: It's all good. 1287 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 3: Ms Barn says, full circle moment from last week when 1288 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 3: I said, you and kring on my research. 1289 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 4: My point is proven. Roger PJ. 1290 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,400 Speaker 3: William says in fact check by me, Doctor PJ. 1291 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 4: Pre PhD. 1292 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 3: Keisher says, of course it was. Lisa says, I appreciate 1293 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 3: y'all so much. Thanks for sharing so much of the 1294 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 3: time with us over holladays. Doctor Uzzo says, we have 1295 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 3: the dinner but on New Year's Day, and Coach ma 1296 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 3: Leak says, setting Black people back. 1297 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 4: I definitely missed this, so thank you. Glad y'all enjoyed that. 1298 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 4: We'll try. If we remember and everybody's here and everything's good, 1299 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 4: we'll be trying to make sure we do that next year. 1300 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 2: You know, like that was fun. 1301 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 4: Keep it up. 1302 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 3: Let's go to the next episode, which of course would 1303 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 3: be setting white people back in twenty twenty three, because 1304 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 3: you know, we got to follow it up. The uh 1305 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 3: the we got seven comments on the website. Appa says, 1306 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 3: this is an episode I don't want to be number 1307 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 3: one on quick check. I can't call the police on anyone. 1308 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 3: The maximum amount of braids I ever wore were two. 1309 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 3: I mostly listened to music with no lyrics, so no 1310 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 3: accidents possible here. Instead of slurs, I invent new insults 1311 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 3: that can only be used on any race. I should 1312 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 3: be fine. Oh oh, that's what all the bad people say. Well, 1313 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I think you'd have to do something pretty 1314 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 3: egregious to outdo all white people to be number one 1315 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 3: on the list, like some pretty heavy hitters on that. 1316 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 4: I don't think you're an EF. 1317 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not asking you to 1318 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 3: test it, but I don't think you have the range. 1319 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't don't shoot for the top one hundred. 1320 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 3: Please don't shoe Booty says I need to rage out 1321 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 3: on baking soda and vinegar combo real quick. The boiling 1322 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,400 Speaker 3: bacon soda works because of heat and abrasion. Everyone thinks 1323 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 3: that the bubbling action of combining baking soda and vinegar 1324 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 3: is some sort of magic cleaner element, but it's not. 1325 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 3: This might make it look like it lifts out the grind, 1326 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 3: but it's really just shoving and already loosen particles up 1327 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 3: to the surface and not doing any magic bubbling cleaning. 1328 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 3: Combining vinegar and baking soda neutralize each other and effectively 1329 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:40,919 Speaker 3: what you get is fancy salt water. 1330 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 4: When all the said and done, that's it. 1331 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 3: Baking soda is good for cleaning because it deodorizes and 1332 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 3: it's abrasive without being too scratchy. Vinegar is good for 1333 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,800 Speaker 3: cleaning because of the cidic. They're great separately. They look 1334 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 3: effective together with the foemen, but it's not really doing anything. 1335 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 4: Well. 1336 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,440 Speaker 3: That sounds very scientific, and I'm sure you know how 1337 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 3: it works more than I do. All I know is 1338 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 3: that shit clean my pan and nothing else did. And 1339 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 3: I had tried other shit. I tried boiling just water 1340 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 3: in that motherfucker. I tried scrubbing it. I tried sponges. 1341 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 3: The only thing that worked was that shit. So they 1342 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 3: won for one over in this crib shoe, Buody says, 1343 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 3: going forward to for comment on this one. Something about 1344 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 3: sports that makes me uncomfortable as a racial aspect, especially 1345 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 3: with like boxing and football. We know how a lot 1346 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 3: of white sports fans feel about black people, so it's 1347 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,360 Speaker 3: always struck me as fucked up. The Dell place bets 1348 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,600 Speaker 3: and cheer on two black men fighting in the ring, 1349 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 3: for example, but at the same time not see them 1350 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 3: as actual people. I'm not sure if I'm articulating it right. 1351 01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 3: The feelings of discomfort here, but the same with the 1352 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 3: football point. You're making their cheer on the players on 1353 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 3: their team, seeing them as theirs, with a sense of 1354 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 3: pride that comes with some twisted ownership, and then not 1355 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 3: value them as people doing a skilled job who deserve 1356 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 3: pay or who deserve equal rights, even ip your replies 1357 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 3: and says. And that's why I'm happy that I don't 1358 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 3: assume any sports. I do it exclusively for ethical reasons 1359 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 3: and was never different. And it's definitely not because I 1360 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 3: don't care, not even fussball, and that unusual in Germany. 1361 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 4: That's unusual in Germany. 1362 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 3: I don't know what's happening in the sports unless a 1363 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,400 Speaker 3: pop spot star stars dating a sporty or something like that. 1364 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I think, Shoot, b y'all. I don't remember when, 1365 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 3: but we had an episode on this show many years ago. 1366 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 4: I can't even name the title. 1367 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 3: I don't remember, but it was an episode where I 1368 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 3: talked about this epiphany I had and I stopped watching 1369 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 3: college football because of it. 1370 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 4: And it wasn't a boycott. I just it just made 1371 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 4: me not feel good to watch it. So I just 1372 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 4: don't watch things that don't make me feel good. And 1373 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:53,920 Speaker 4: it was watching. 1374 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 3: People fans of the tar Hills, my own, you know, Fana, 1375 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 3: how they reacted to like a player that got injured 1376 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 3: or something, and it was just so like, I don't 1377 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:09,720 Speaker 3: know if it's because the player was on the other 1378 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 3: team or what, but I just remember at the time 1379 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 3: feeling so like, oh, we don't root for the same shit. 1380 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 4: I root like I'm rooting for the team, and and 1381 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 4: I want the Tarrios to win. 1382 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 3: I'm not like some I'm not fucking weird though, but 1383 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 3: there's a bunch of shit that's just above that. To me, 1384 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 3: that is life shit when you're talking and if you 1385 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,440 Speaker 3: except that these are real human beings and people, you 1386 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 3: don't react certain ways. So like, if a guy gets 1387 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 3: injured on the other team, I'm never gonna be happy 1388 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 3: about that or cheer that on, because I'm like, yo, 1389 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 3: that's that's real, his whatever's hurt in him, he got 1390 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 3: to rehab and all this stuff. It gives your team 1391 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,200 Speaker 3: a better chance of winning or whatever, but like I 1392 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 3: still see that person as a person, right, So I'm like, damn. 1393 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 3: You know, my cousin Anthony played for Georgia Tech. We 1394 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,840 Speaker 3: went to the you know, to Chapel Hill and we 1395 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 3: got to see them play there and it was fun 1396 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 3: and I enjoyed it and and you know, but in 1397 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 3: that day, I'm rooting for my cousin to do as 1398 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,760 Speaker 3: fucking good as he can. If if they would have 1399 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 3: whooped the Tarrios ass, I wouldn't have gave a damn 1400 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,160 Speaker 3: about that shit, cause it's like, that's my that's my 1401 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 3: flesh and blood, right, that's a real person to me. 1402 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 3: And I think a lot of times with blackness, I 1403 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 3: feel that way about a lot of players and a 1404 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 3: lot of stuff. So when I see their humanity disrespected, 1405 01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 3: it just reminds me that there's a there's an entitlement 1406 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 3: to whiteness that just is not able to consume sports 1407 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 3: in the way that I do and with empathy and 1408 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:51,920 Speaker 3: some you know, some level of like being able to 1409 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,920 Speaker 3: put it in context of like still life. They just 1410 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,920 Speaker 3: look at it as black people they don't respect playing 1411 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,800 Speaker 3: a game that they're that they were just too unlucky 1412 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 3: not to be able to play, and black people getting 1413 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,760 Speaker 3: money they don't deserve is how a lot of them 1414 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 3: view this stuff. And they don't even realize that it's 1415 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,960 Speaker 3: a race thing because they will go if you talk 1416 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,439 Speaker 3: to a must and be like, no, it's just athletes, 1417 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 3: but you can tell and the way they talk that 1418 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 3: it's different for white athletes. 1419 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,240 Speaker 4: It's just different. It's different for Tom. 1420 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,760 Speaker 1: Brady even they talk about them and things like that. 1421 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:31,360 Speaker 1: Like for me, this is one of the main reasons why, 1422 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,320 Speaker 1: and I stopped decades ago. I do not listen to 1423 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,439 Speaker 1: the top most traditional talk sports radio for that reason, 1424 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,040 Speaker 1: because I could hear the dog. 1425 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 2: Whistling and the phone calls and the holes and that 1426 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:41,920 Speaker 2: shit just drass me up the motherfucking wall. 1427 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:43,559 Speaker 1: Because I look at people, you know, I look at 1428 01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,439 Speaker 1: these I look at them as human beings. And this 1429 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 1: is one reason why I don't get all PC and upset. 1430 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,519 Speaker 1: And I know some black people, you know, we're mad too. 1431 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,600 Speaker 1: This is why I'm like when they when when a 1432 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,400 Speaker 1: lot of these players are like, hey, doll, I'm not 1433 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,040 Speaker 1: playing in the Major Bowl. I am not playing in 1434 01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:02,160 Speaker 1: the you know know, the motherfucking Bowt Janko Bowl, And 1435 01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,519 Speaker 1: it ain't gonna mean anything. I'm not gonna play in 1436 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 1: that bowl. I'm going to the pros and people get 1437 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 1: pissy like they're selfish when my thing is, hey dog, 1438 01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 1: they've been playing for fucking Mickey Mouse coins, Like, no, 1439 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 1: they gonna get some real money. I would sit out too, 1440 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 1: like because I look at them as human beings. 1441 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 2: I don't look them. 1442 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,680 Speaker 1: I don't look I don't look at the university and 1443 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,519 Speaker 1: the team larger than the individuals because I see them 1444 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 1: as people. 1445 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that's a huge part of it 1446 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 4: for folks. 1447 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 3: So you know, I once I realized we were rooting 1448 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,320 Speaker 3: for two different things like and and and this happened 1449 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 3: before Kaepernick and shit, it was just like y'all, like 1450 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,720 Speaker 3: you'll sit in the stands and be upset that Black 1451 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 3: Lives Matter is in the end zone. 1452 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,519 Speaker 4: You know that's because you don't see the people on 1453 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 4: the field as people, right It steelm is like things you. 1454 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 3: Bet on or something. And uh yeah, I was just 1455 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,720 Speaker 3: never a fucking fan of that shit. It's it's just 1456 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, and I can't unsee it now. Uh 1457 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,360 Speaker 3: so you no, but I don't boycott sports. I just 1458 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,600 Speaker 3: really just look at it like this is the this 1459 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:05,840 Speaker 3: is the real reality of it. 1460 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 6: Yep. 1461 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:07,920 Speaker 1: And It's one of those things when you're in or 1462 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:09,560 Speaker 1: you're out, and I don't judge you for being in, 1463 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,560 Speaker 1: nor do I judge you for being out, because, like 1464 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 1: I said, back to the fundamental thing, most of the 1465 01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 1: things we consume, particularly in america's fucked up. 1466 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:21,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think also people, there's a lot of you're 1467 01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 3: You're like, it's not to me, it's not an in 1468 01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 3: or out. It's one foot in, one foot out, because 1469 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,240 Speaker 3: it's just something in your life that can't hold up 1470 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 3: to these standards. 1471 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 4: It's right whatever whoever you are, it's just this is 1472 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,320 Speaker 4: the world. You can't be morally pure and clean all 1473 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:37,679 Speaker 4: the time. 1474 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,559 Speaker 3: There's always gonna be some bullshit that you holding back 1475 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 3: or dealing with just based off of just you know, 1476 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,000 Speaker 3: living in the world, in America or whatever. So you're 1477 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,559 Speaker 3: gonna have to deal with your I don't know, you're 1478 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:57,040 Speaker 3: let's say you okay, so you don't fuck with sports, 1479 01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,719 Speaker 3: but you listen to James Brown. 1480 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 4: Okay, you know what I mean? 1481 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 2: Like everybody got their lines. 1482 01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 4: That's what it is, you know, That's just what it 1483 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 4: is for you people. 1484 01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,040 Speaker 2: I'm messy, all right. 1485 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,360 Speaker 3: Ramsey DJINGA says, I love this recap Countdown five Stars 1486 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 3: Number one, Montgomery, Alabama, Sweet Tea Booklyn Shoe Base says, 1487 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,040 Speaker 3: you two have been on fire last two weeks. I've 1488 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 3: been loving your countdowns and wrap up. Setting black and 1489 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,040 Speaker 3: white people back are classics. I only joined the Blackout 1490 01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,719 Speaker 3: Tips around early twenty sixteen, so this was a pleasant 1491 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,200 Speaker 3: addiction to my ears. I'm not a gamer, but I 1492 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,519 Speaker 3: really enjoy your top games of twenty twenty three. It 1493 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,679 Speaker 3: keeps me somewhat relevant with the teens at work. 1494 01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,479 Speaker 4: Yayv. He says, what a great episode. 1495 01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,920 Speaker 3: Something I think that's setting white people back is the 1496 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,679 Speaker 3: Snyder Verse taking over and over again last year, particularly 1497 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,760 Speaker 3: since the Toxic fan Boy seemed to hold onto it 1498 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,760 Speaker 3: in such high regard The Flash in particular, that movie 1499 01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 3: was asked, I. 1500 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,639 Speaker 4: Hope it and Ezra Miller stays in twenty twenty three. 1501 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 4: That's an interesting addition. 1502 01:11:52,320 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 3: I think for me, I don't really consider uh, I 1503 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 3: guess I've never I shouldn't say I don't I've never 1504 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,680 Speaker 3: thought about Yeah, I've never really thought about. 1505 01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 2: The fact that. 1506 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,839 Speaker 4: This Snyder Verse stuff is kind of racially coded. 1507 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just never thought about it before, because I mean, 1508 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 3: it is those same gamer Gate types, so clearly you know, like. 1509 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,720 Speaker 4: There's there's no way it's not something you know what 1510 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:24,200 Speaker 4: I mean. 1511 01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,480 Speaker 3: This is a great point, but I just never associated 1512 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 3: with just like and that's white people's thing is Yeah, 1513 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,320 Speaker 3: all right, let's see what the poe was. Do you 1514 01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 3: like watching food videos on YouTube? Seventy three yes, twenty 1515 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:44,840 Speaker 3: seven percent no. And on Spotify sixty two percent yes, 1516 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:51,120 Speaker 3: thirty eight percent no. The comments on YouTube I forgot 1517 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,799 Speaker 3: to read, uh for this one is regarding the Sackler 1518 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 3: family money talks to bs walks as Paula, I hear you, Paula. Uh, 1519 01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,280 Speaker 3: just says Rod and Karen. Please make this these lists 1520 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,599 Speaker 3: of annual tradition. Both days of lifts have been hilarious 1521 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 3: and factual. Our surprise with the number one choice, but 1522 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 3: it was perfect. The Montgomery Riverboro was so great it 1523 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 3: made both days as it should. Thank you for doing 1524 01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,280 Speaker 3: to wrap up for us to twenty twenty three for us, 1525 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:19,720 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1526 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 6: Thank you. 1527 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,400 Speaker 2: We enjoyed putting that list. We had a ball put 1528 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 2: that list together. 1529 01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, the poll do you like watching foodvide oh? I 1530 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,679 Speaker 3: said the pol sorry Q and a vinegar and baking 1531 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:37,439 Speaker 3: soda is all you need? Okay, let's see we got yo. 1532 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,679 Speaker 3: This is this Kenny Keenan says, yo, this is where's 1533 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,559 Speaker 3: that clip of the dude saying I'm sorry people think 1534 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,679 Speaker 3: a white man can enjoy black history from. 1535 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 2: Yes, so it's my clip that's hilarious. 1536 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:54,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. So that clip is Darren Rovel. 1537 01:13:55,680 --> 01:14:00,640 Speaker 3: He's a sports reporter and he was in Twitter spaces 1538 01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:05,440 Speaker 3: discussing something and black people start asking him some questions 1539 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,599 Speaker 3: or whatever. And one of the things that he collects 1540 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:13,400 Speaker 3: MLK like membera billion stuff like you know, like he 1541 01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:18,240 Speaker 3: buys it and shit, you know. So, yeah, he does that, 1542 01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:25,320 Speaker 3: and he was questioned about it and he starts making 1543 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:31,680 Speaker 3: like a defense of himself, and people were using that 1544 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 3: speech to. 1545 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 4: It was just funny and so I saved the audio 1546 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 4: of it and I use it. I mostly only played 1547 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,320 Speaker 4: on Bosing Sports, but it's the four audios over a 1548 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 4: minute long, like I just think I played the eighteen 1549 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:46,479 Speaker 4: second lamp. 1550 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:47,639 Speaker 6: I'm sorry. 1551 01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 10: I'm sorry if people think that a white man can't 1552 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 10: enjoy black history. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I really am. 1553 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,559 Speaker 10: I'm sorry if people think that a white man uh 1554 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,880 Speaker 10: can't uh love Martin Luther King. 1555 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,840 Speaker 3: He was so indignant, Yes, he was like, what are 1556 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,880 Speaker 3: y'all talking about? He was so indignant and still so white. 1557 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,400 Speaker 2: It was so good, it was hilarious. 1558 01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,680 Speaker 3: Raphael says, it's science, and I believe in science is 1559 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:20,720 Speaker 3: a multiverse. FROTI universal Traveler Terrence Howard needs to be 1560 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,840 Speaker 3: introduced to this science because it makes sense and I 1561 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,760 Speaker 3: love it. Joyce says, I guess I'm the only black 1562 01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,839 Speaker 3: person that drinks charge lemonade from preanera. 1563 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,920 Speaker 4: I mean, it's always one of y'all. You know, we 1564 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:34,240 Speaker 4: found you, get supervalus. 1565 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 2: We'll know what happened. 1566 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,120 Speaker 3: Wasn't even looking for you, but we found you, Okay, 1567 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,240 Speaker 3: And this one is just all Number says been telling 1568 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:40,640 Speaker 3: people this. 1569 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,000 Speaker 4: For years, that vinegar and baker cell is all you need. 1570 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,439 Speaker 4: All right, Let's go to the last episode of the week, 1571 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:56,040 Speaker 4: which was Nate Sayer. Please. We got nine comments on 1572 01:15:56,200 --> 01:16:00,519 Speaker 4: they Sayer. Please, Let's see what. 1573 01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:01,040 Speaker 9: We got here. 1574 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,800 Speaker 4: We got ann who says, in. 1575 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,200 Speaker 3: Case you haven't already figured it out, I'll be that 1576 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,160 Speaker 3: person to explain the New yas New Ya's name and 1577 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,320 Speaker 3: Hispanic cultures. You take both your father's and mother's last 1578 01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:16,040 Speaker 3: name her maiden names, so that God's parents were both 1579 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:20,719 Speaker 3: nunyas the actress Sophia Vigara is actually Sylvia Vigar Vigara. 1580 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,559 Speaker 3: I also wanted to say that arby serves fresh and chicken. 1581 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,840 Speaker 3: Now that's called diverse firere customer base? 1582 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,519 Speaker 4: Are we being on? When I was a child, they 1583 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:30,719 Speaker 4: stuck to roast beef. 1584 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,600 Speaker 3: Where's my conservative congressman with a lot to prevent this abomination? 1585 01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,719 Speaker 3: And Oppia says, thank you for this, but uh yeah, listen. 1586 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:40,560 Speaker 4: It's not abomination. 1587 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,360 Speaker 3: And the conservative politicians aren't gonna do anything because they're 1588 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,519 Speaker 3: on the payroll of big artist because Arby's gives them 1589 01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:50,600 Speaker 3: ninety six percent of every dollar that they donate to politician. 1590 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,760 Speaker 2: And thank you for the background knowledge. I did not 1591 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:54,040 Speaker 2: know that. 1592 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,479 Speaker 1: That's new information. I did not know any did your 1593 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,080 Speaker 1: mother's and father's last name. 1594 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,439 Speaker 3: It says I had COVID for the second time now. 1595 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,960 Speaker 3: I was maximumly vaccinated both times. At both times it 1596 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,040 Speaker 3: was only three days. This time it was even milder. 1597 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,360 Speaker 3: I had a stuff nos and coughed one night. I 1598 01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,000 Speaker 3: wonder if something else will come up with like strong 1599 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,559 Speaker 3: tiredness for two weeks like last time. 1600 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:16,840 Speaker 4: But it's per the day. I'm fine. 1601 01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,720 Speaker 3: I hope now that I wrote it, it doesn't come back, 1602 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,880 Speaker 3: so I lost my fear about it. Now I think 1603 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,280 Speaker 3: maybe a new variant could hit me harder. Who knows, 1604 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 3: but I hope I'm done with it for this season. 1605 01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 2: Just keep getting vaccinated. 1606 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:31,599 Speaker 3: Michael sounds like Michael says, I totally agree with your 1607 01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:36,520 Speaker 3: point about people not doing their part staying boosted against. 1608 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:38,080 Speaker 4: COVID. 1609 01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,679 Speaker 3: My husband and I asked a lot of our friends 1610 01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,880 Speaker 3: and family about it lately, and basically all of them 1611 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 3: admitted to not having gotten the latest booster. Even my dentist, 1612 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,760 Speaker 3: who always wears a mask and has his staff through 1613 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,000 Speaker 3: the same recently admitted to me he hadn't gotten around 1614 01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 3: to getting the. 1615 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:52,400 Speaker 4: Latest COVID booster. 1616 01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,560 Speaker 3: All of these are people who can afford it and 1617 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,040 Speaker 3: who aren't anti VAXX. Is really baffling to me. But 1618 01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 3: the stat show I'm the weird one for actually getting shot. 1619 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,599 Speaker 2: Ye for a lot of people, not that funny. It's 1620 01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:02,880 Speaker 2: just a pure inconvenience. 1621 01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,640 Speaker 1: They go, I have to go to the doctor, I 1622 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,439 Speaker 1: have to go to the pharmacy. Like for a lot 1623 01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,880 Speaker 1: of people that are like this is literally disrupting my life. 1624 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,360 Speaker 1: I have to make an appointment, And so for a 1625 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,920 Speaker 1: lot of people that go, if it's not something that's 1626 01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:19,439 Speaker 1: quote unquote simple and something that doesn't quote unquote alter 1627 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,439 Speaker 1: my life or something I don't have to quote unquote think, 1628 01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna do it. 1629 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,200 Speaker 3: Well, what's interesting is that the last few years it 1630 01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:30,200 Speaker 3: has been simplified, uh, and it's just like the flu shot, 1631 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,920 Speaker 3: and people don't weren't really getting the shoot flu shot 1632 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,960 Speaker 3: that much back, you know. So I think it's for 1633 01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:39,519 Speaker 3: a lot of people that just treating it that way. 1634 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,679 Speaker 3: And unless it starts really killing people at the highest 1635 01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:49,679 Speaker 3: higher numbers enough to make people really fearful, which I don't. 1636 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:50,400 Speaker 4: Know what that number would be. 1637 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:51,400 Speaker 2: I don't either. 1638 01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,479 Speaker 4: It's not like no one's dying. But unless it starts 1639 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:55,240 Speaker 4: killing like. 1640 01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,840 Speaker 3: A lot of people very rapidly, again, I don't think 1641 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,479 Speaker 3: people are gonna or get vaccinated and stuff like that. 1642 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:03,759 Speaker 2: Again agreed. 1643 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,240 Speaker 3: Michael also goes on to say, as a trans person, 1644 01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:09,960 Speaker 3: one of the things that makes me so upset about 1645 01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,920 Speaker 3: the bands on gender firming care for children is that 1646 01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,599 Speaker 3: these kids who access to care who are getting screwed 1647 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,960 Speaker 3: over by the laws are the lucky ones who have 1648 01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,680 Speaker 3: affirming parents who take their knees seriously and get them 1649 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,439 Speaker 3: into gender care clinics. And these miserable bigot Republicans aren't 1650 01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,559 Speaker 3: content just scrowing over their own trans kids, so they 1651 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,120 Speaker 3: decide to have to fuck it up for the trans 1652 01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,599 Speaker 3: kids who actually have parents who care for them. These 1653 01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,320 Speaker 3: laws that ban gender affirming care for minors don't affect 1654 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,280 Speaker 3: Republican parents' kids since they are either in the closet 1655 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 3: at home or who get told they aren't really trans 1656 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,400 Speaker 3: or that they can't transition by their bigoted parents. The 1657 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,599 Speaker 3: laws are saying that even the parents who are doing 1658 01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:49,080 Speaker 3: what every major medical association says is medically necessary thing 1659 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,519 Speaker 3: for their kids, supporting them through social and if necessary, 1660 01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 3: physical transition, can't do these things right. 1661 01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,400 Speaker 4: And this is from the Party of Freedom. As someone 1662 01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,280 Speaker 4: who didn't win in the support. 1663 01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,560 Speaker 3: Their parent lottery, I came out as trans to my 1664 01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,760 Speaker 3: parents as an adult and was met with a death threat. 1665 01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,479 Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, it makes me so upset that the supportive 1666 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,760 Speaker 3: parents are being prevented from helping their transgender kids. 1667 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,000 Speaker 4: I agree with you totally. That's like, that's the thing. 1668 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:20,519 Speaker 3: Like they they call themselves a Party of Freedom, they 1669 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,920 Speaker 3: act like so many things of freedom of speech issues, 1670 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:26,360 Speaker 3: including guns, running up on the government to overthrow the 1671 01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:30,720 Speaker 3: election of violence towards people, hate speech, like all of 1672 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,200 Speaker 3: that's just freedom of speech, freedom, First Amendment rights, Second 1673 01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:34,880 Speaker 3: Amendment rights. 1674 01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,560 Speaker 4: But when people go, you know, this is what I 1675 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:38,880 Speaker 4: want to practice with my. 1676 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,559 Speaker 3: Own body, my own sexuality, this is what I want 1677 01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,880 Speaker 3: to support my own child through. All of a sudden, 1678 01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:49,559 Speaker 3: there's no freedom of speech, there's no right to your life, 1679 01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,040 Speaker 3: liberty and pursuit of happiness. All of a sudden, these 1680 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 3: motherfuckers just turned into the town from footloos. 1681 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:56,880 Speaker 2: Haha, no dancing in my town. 1682 01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,120 Speaker 3: Shoe Booty says, looks like the same tactics. Can we 1683 01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:04,599 Speaker 3: use the discredit Claudian Gaye's opposition as well. The wife 1684 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,240 Speaker 3: of one of Gay's main detractors has been accused of 1685 01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:11,160 Speaker 3: similar plagiarism on the technicality I've seen that Bill Ackman's 1686 01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,360 Speaker 3: wife and I saw his tweets about it, and it's 1687 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,320 Speaker 3: just ain't no fun. When the rabbit got a gun, 1688 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:21,280 Speaker 3: they've unleased some some bullshit, and I'm I want to 1689 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:25,679 Speaker 3: see if motherfuckers all just put they put their guns 1690 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,600 Speaker 3: down and go back to like business as usual, or 1691 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,400 Speaker 3: if this shit is gonna spawn out of control and 1692 01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:34,920 Speaker 3: just it's gonna just take take down anybody in academia 1693 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:39,200 Speaker 3: because of the definition of plagiarism that is being used 1694 01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:40,080 Speaker 3: is literally. 1695 01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,439 Speaker 4: Like not something that's ever been used before. 1696 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:47,360 Speaker 3: It's like, uh, this common phrase was used in your book, 1697 01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,599 Speaker 3: as it wasn't this book and other books and many books, 1698 01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,120 Speaker 3: because people say that all the time because that's just 1699 01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,840 Speaker 3: what to come common parlance, and they're like, plagiarism, Okay, 1700 01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,800 Speaker 3: can everyone stand up to the rigor of this, because 1701 01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,479 Speaker 3: if not, I hope they do target Like if if 1702 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 3: you're gonna keep playing games, then I hope the conservative 1703 01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,280 Speaker 3: people start losing people too, because it's fucking stupid. 1704 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,479 Speaker 1: Because if you're gonna burn the bunty some people like 1705 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,559 Speaker 1: let's burn the beach down, then everybody gonna get burned 1706 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:14,439 Speaker 1: you too. It ain't gonna be on one side fire. 1707 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,000 Speaker 3: And it's still weird because then like Claudine Gay is 1708 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,840 Speaker 3: still a professor there, right, Uh, the woman from Penn 1709 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,200 Speaker 3: still a professor there. This person that they're targeting is 1710 01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:26,280 Speaker 3: a professor already, so what will plagiarism do? She gonna 1711 01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,400 Speaker 3: get the MOI the teacher's assistant like what's the rules, man, 1712 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,920 Speaker 3: Drake says, as far as the Ivy League college presidents 1713 01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:34,519 Speaker 3: and got your questions if you look at the full 1714 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,440 Speaker 3: question of transcript. They set up the questions about genocide 1715 01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,800 Speaker 3: by prefacing them with ridiculous premises. They first said that 1716 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,960 Speaker 3: the definition of infan I think it is infant tita, 1717 01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,320 Speaker 3: but he put into faa or is it into fire? 1718 01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:47,760 Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe I got it right. I'm gonna 1719 01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:48,160 Speaker 4: got it wrong. 1720 01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 3: Into faa is the genocide of the Jewish people, which 1721 01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,400 Speaker 3: is not. Then they asked what Harvard is doing to 1722 01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,800 Speaker 3: deal with students at Harvard calling for the extermination to 1723 01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,720 Speaker 3: Jewish students at Harvard. So the question was never does 1724 01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,519 Speaker 3: just condemned calls for genocide, because the answer would have 1725 01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,479 Speaker 3: obviously been of course, But they pretended that Intifada is 1726 01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,559 Speaker 3: about genocide and that any support of Palestine is equated 1727 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,760 Speaker 3: with exterminating the Jewish people. Of course, the answers they 1728 01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,800 Speaker 3: gave were terrible and they should have answered differently. But 1729 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:17,559 Speaker 3: if you look at the preface and the build up 1730 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,479 Speaker 3: to the question that was asked, you can see why 1731 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,320 Speaker 3: the answer wasn't a clearly simple one. 1732 01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,599 Speaker 4: Yeah that, but see that was my point was right. 1733 01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,360 Speaker 4: I was like, the premise was a set up. 1734 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,160 Speaker 3: Yes, so that whatever answer they gave was gonna piss 1735 01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,479 Speaker 3: off a lot of people, and they just needed to 1736 01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,439 Speaker 3: get them in a situation that pissed off enough people 1737 01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,479 Speaker 3: for the conservative people to be like, we should get 1738 01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 3: this person fired. 1739 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,160 Speaker 4: That's why it was complete set up the whole time. 1740 01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:48,040 Speaker 2: It was a complete gotcha. 1741 01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:51,240 Speaker 1: No matter what their answer was, they was like, regardless 1742 01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:52,840 Speaker 1: of what you say, it is going to be the 1743 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,800 Speaker 1: wrong answer. And a lot of this boy was back 1744 01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,400 Speaker 1: to what we were saying before the good faith argument. 1745 01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,559 Speaker 1: They did not come in good faith period. They set 1746 01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,240 Speaker 1: some shit there wasn't real from the beginning, just so 1747 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,479 Speaker 1: anything you say it was just not going to be 1748 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,320 Speaker 1: enough and it was just going to cause a problem. 1749 01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,479 Speaker 3: Man Drake says, as far as the Ivy League college 1750 01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,800 Speaker 3: presidents and gotcha question, if you look at the full 1751 01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,559 Speaker 3: question in the trend, oh wait I said this shit. 1752 01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:14,840 Speaker 4: The next one's eed. 1753 01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,479 Speaker 3: The most interesting thing about kat Williams interview is that 1754 01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,280 Speaker 3: everyone who has responded to him hasn't actually denied anything 1755 01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,639 Speaker 3: he said. Not one person that's threatening the sue. Yeah, 1756 01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,639 Speaker 3: I mean, but he also is not threatening the sue 1757 01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,120 Speaker 3: the people that he said lied. Also, there are people 1758 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:34,280 Speaker 3: that are saying things aren't true. Ice Q came out, 1759 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,320 Speaker 3: who isn't one of the people that Kat Williams went 1760 01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,360 Speaker 3: in on. But ice Q got interviewed yesterday and was like, 1761 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:45,320 Speaker 3: we dig offer Ricky Smiley that part as Santa and 1762 01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,080 Speaker 3: then we then later Kat came in an audition that 1763 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,840 Speaker 3: we thought Kat was better and so Kat got it well, 1764 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,519 Speaker 3: So right then Ricky Smiley wasn't lying. But that's not 1765 01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:59,160 Speaker 3: gonna take back anything because I don't I think we 1766 01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:00,519 Speaker 3: talked about this in pregame. 1767 01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,000 Speaker 4: On pregame and depth I kind of went more in 1768 01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:03,360 Speaker 4: on it. 1769 01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:08,360 Speaker 3: But I've really just looked at that two hours of 1770 01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,960 Speaker 3: forty seven minutes as a master class of crafting a 1771 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:15,080 Speaker 3: narrative and built constructing something almost like a stand up 1772 01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:20,439 Speaker 3: special or something where he blends truth and lie and 1773 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:26,120 Speaker 3: exaggeration and half truths in a way that feeds the 1774 01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,160 Speaker 3: red meat to a crowd of people that kind of 1775 01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,519 Speaker 3: want to believe all these things about these people anyway, 1776 01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,560 Speaker 3: and people are pretty simple, so I don't know that 1777 01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,680 Speaker 3: people really believe that deep down if you examine it 1778 01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,400 Speaker 3: and start asking him questions like, so you really think 1779 01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,280 Speaker 3: Sedi d entertainer was never funny or was it just 1780 01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,920 Speaker 3: that Kat Williams said, Sedgi the Entertainer's never funny while 1781 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:49,639 Speaker 3: he was talking about him, and the charisma and delivery 1782 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,479 Speaker 3: was so good it became the new truth. You know, 1783 01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:57,360 Speaker 3: Kevin Hart's parts are all just parts. Kat Williams turned down, 1784 01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,240 Speaker 3: Kevin Hart's never been funny. He just showed up. He's 1785 01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,559 Speaker 3: an industry plan You know, people only call industry plans 1786 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,599 Speaker 3: to people they don't fuck with. By the way, ever, 1787 01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,960 Speaker 3: no one's ever an industry planning the motherfucker We like, 1788 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,760 Speaker 3: it's just shit like that where you're like, I don't like, 1789 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,760 Speaker 3: and I just think whether it's true or not isn't 1790 01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:19,240 Speaker 3: really gonna be the point. So I've seen people deny 1791 01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,559 Speaker 3: Ludacris came out with a rap saying, you know, I'm 1792 01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:26,040 Speaker 3: never an Illuminati, it's the Ludinati. But like, also, what 1793 01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,560 Speaker 3: he was accused of was patently fucking ridiculous, So you know, 1794 01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:33,120 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, It just I would like to 1795 01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,719 Speaker 3: leave it in like this was a great two hours 1796 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,880 Speaker 3: and forty seven minutes of content, but I feel like 1797 01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,280 Speaker 3: people want to turn it into like a. 1798 01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,839 Speaker 4: Cause where I'm like, I don't think it's a cause, 1799 01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,120 Speaker 4: And I think Kat Williams is straight. Like he got 1800 01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:50,520 Speaker 4: he got his money, he has his fame, he's. 1801 01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,080 Speaker 2: Touring him and everybody he's talked about he helped. 1802 01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,639 Speaker 3: He helps a lot of people. People love him within, 1803 01:26:56,520 --> 01:27:00,360 Speaker 3: within and without the comedy community. Liberal people that tend 1804 01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,519 Speaker 3: to be very restrictive on other comedians and what they 1805 01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,920 Speaker 3: can and can't say, and they always getting offended. They 1806 01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,439 Speaker 3: don't feel that way about cat Cat cats up there 1807 01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:12,320 Speaker 3: kind of saying some fat, phobic, homophobic type of stuff. 1808 01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,240 Speaker 3: But people find a way to say it's not punching down, 1809 01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:19,280 Speaker 3: or it's okay, Like it's just when you like somebody 1810 01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,439 Speaker 3: and they're that good at their job. That's really the 1811 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:26,000 Speaker 3: power of charisma and humor is the ability to do that. 1812 01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:32,600 Speaker 3: I saw a comedian on Twitter being like, you know, 1813 01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 3: all the greats never punched down, and I said, that's 1814 01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:37,479 Speaker 3: a lie. 1815 01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:38,840 Speaker 2: I ain't that the truth. 1816 01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:40,760 Speaker 4: We like them, we. 1817 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,320 Speaker 3: Overlook the punchdowns. Eddie Murphy talking about gay people is 1818 01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:49,400 Speaker 3: definitely punching down. Even back then, it wasn't gays above blacks. 1819 01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,680 Speaker 3: It was no, you're calling people the F word and 1820 01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,639 Speaker 3: using it over and oh, yes, that is punching down. 1821 01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:01,360 Speaker 3: You know people, you know Carlin has a bit he 1822 01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,040 Speaker 3: says the N word in it. Yeah, that's never been 1823 01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:08,160 Speaker 3: like a oh thank god. He's punching up like when 1824 01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:11,880 Speaker 3: you're great and charismatic. And then the sacredness of either 1825 01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,759 Speaker 3: the stage or the content or whatever we give people past. 1826 01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,519 Speaker 3: That's it and that's what Kat is experiencing right now. 1827 01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,040 Speaker 3: And I think because we need to hold on the 1828 01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:25,040 Speaker 3: narrative so tightly, we need heroes and villains. We are 1829 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,640 Speaker 3: not gonna live in the complexity of the interview of 1830 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:29,840 Speaker 3: the moment. We want to simply walk around and go 1831 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,360 Speaker 3: everything he's said, he's pitting the truth and all these 1832 01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:34,559 Speaker 3: niggas ain't never been shit. 1833 01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,040 Speaker 4: And it's like they're probably complicated too. 1834 01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:40,280 Speaker 1: Yes, like I said, people are messy, Like that's a 1835 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:44,000 Speaker 1: fucking slogan. Most people are, including everybody, no matter who, 1836 01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:45,040 Speaker 1: and most people live in the gray. 1837 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,479 Speaker 2: But and in that sense black white the end. 1838 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so like I said, we'll see some people 1839 01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:56,599 Speaker 3: have you know, refuted the shit, and then some people 1840 01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,120 Speaker 3: just kind of acting like they above it. Every I 1841 01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,800 Speaker 3: think the brilliance of it really Also is that there's 1842 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:06,679 Speaker 3: no way people can really win. I think he set 1843 01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,600 Speaker 3: them in checkmate because I've seen multiple types of responses. 1844 01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,400 Speaker 4: You got Cedredary entertainer. 1845 01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:15,760 Speaker 3: Basically saying like it's all bullshit and that one joke 1846 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,519 Speaker 3: can't make me and if I if we see each 1847 01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,000 Speaker 3: other person, it's not you're not gonna beat me up 1848 01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,320 Speaker 3: or whatever fuck you said on that show, which was 1849 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:29,360 Speaker 3: another thing. So like, but people are like, look at 1850 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,360 Speaker 3: this whack ass response, whereas the joke's nigga makes them 1851 01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:37,160 Speaker 3: sooner enough, okay, cool Ludacris responds with a rap, so 1852 01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:39,479 Speaker 3: the whole like, do your art to respond to it. 1853 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,679 Speaker 4: Nigga just saying, zoon, Wayne, give a fuck about this rap? 1854 01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:43,559 Speaker 4: You think that's good? 1855 01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:48,479 Speaker 3: So now you're not supposed to do that. Steve Harvey's 1856 01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:52,519 Speaker 3: ignoring it. Now it must be true. He ain't say nothing, okay. 1857 01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:57,439 Speaker 3: Kevin Hart was on NBA, like a broadcast on ESPN 1858 01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:00,920 Speaker 3: where him and his boys do like a they sit around. 1859 01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,559 Speaker 4: And watch the NBA and they do their own commentary. 1860 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:05,439 Speaker 3: They did two minutes of like kind of riffing about 1861 01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:08,840 Speaker 3: Cat Williams and the amount of like stuff he said 1862 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,519 Speaker 3: that was clearly embellished or made up, and you know, 1863 01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:15,160 Speaker 3: and it wasn't like on a stage or whatever, but 1864 01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,680 Speaker 3: it was like, this is part of his job and 1865 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,519 Speaker 3: he's using this two minutes to be like, y'all really 1866 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:24,599 Speaker 3: believe this ridiculous shit, you know. And it was just like, oh, Cat, 1867 01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,639 Speaker 3: you know, Cats say he dropped so and so off 1868 01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:29,639 Speaker 3: at the at the court tonight. You know, Cats said 1869 01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:33,439 Speaker 3: he played ninety two games basketball and the only lost too. 1870 01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:35,240 Speaker 3: You know, he said he the one that dunked on 1871 01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:38,000 Speaker 3: Lebron James. So like they were just making jokes and 1872 01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:41,639 Speaker 3: I already saw like, lame whack. Oh that's your response. 1873 01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,240 Speaker 3: This ain't even funny. You've proven him right. Tiffany Hattish says, 1874 01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:47,400 Speaker 3: I'm not mad at him. 1875 01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:48,240 Speaker 6: He said what he. 1876 01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:51,599 Speaker 4: Said, although he does kind of look like Charleston White 1877 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:55,439 Speaker 4: in this interview. Lame never been funny. You just proved 1878 01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:55,880 Speaker 4: him right. 1879 01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,120 Speaker 3: The point being he set that shit up. There's no 1880 01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:02,400 Speaker 3: response that's gonna work. No, there's no response. People just 1881 01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,360 Speaker 3: want like apologies or some shit. And I don't know 1882 01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:09,439 Speaker 3: why they're expecting that because what he they won. It 1883 01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,080 Speaker 3: seems he has beef with these people. Two they have 1884 01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,880 Speaker 3: their own version of the story and not all that 1885 01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,160 Speaker 3: stuff was even proving wrong or right. 1886 01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:22,800 Speaker 4: So like Riggy Smalley has ice Cube, who fucking. 1887 01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,160 Speaker 3: Wrote the movie going, We did give him the part, 1888 01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,080 Speaker 3: So what's Riggy Smiley supposed to dode apologize Cat Williams 1889 01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:31,479 Speaker 3: who brought up him having a dead child. No, but 1890 01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,960 Speaker 3: you want that because you want heroes and villains. He 1891 01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,760 Speaker 3: needs to be the hero, meaning all these people have 1892 01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:38,479 Speaker 3: to be the villain. 1893 01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:40,080 Speaker 4: So it is what it is. 1894 01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:40,360 Speaker 6: Man. 1895 01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,479 Speaker 3: They all complicated people to me, and I just appreciate 1896 01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:47,240 Speaker 3: the dude for always giving fire ass interviews. But I 1897 01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,599 Speaker 3: have to be careful, or at least in my brain, 1898 01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:53,599 Speaker 3: I try to be careful because I feel like we've 1899 01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:57,280 Speaker 3: become prisoners of the moment. We lose focus on what's 1900 01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,719 Speaker 3: real and we start saying shit that we don't actually 1901 01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:04,320 Speaker 3: believe and can't keep up with. Right, So I don't 1902 01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,200 Speaker 3: want to lose that. It's fine for other folks to 1903 01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,720 Speaker 3: lose that. But this is why I normally don't talk 1904 01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,080 Speaker 3: to a lot of other folks, you know. That's why 1905 01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,800 Speaker 3: you don't see me interacting a lot on people's facebooks 1906 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:15,800 Speaker 3: and twitters and shit, because I think a lot of 1907 01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,840 Speaker 3: people are such prisoners of the moment that any level 1908 01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:21,479 Speaker 3: of like big picture shit that you bring to the 1909 01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,040 Speaker 3: table is very inconvenient in the hostile towards it. So, 1910 01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,840 Speaker 3: of course you know, I'm like, Okay, he told nothing 1911 01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:29,040 Speaker 3: much the truth and all these niggas should be ashamed 1912 01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:29,400 Speaker 3: of themselves. 1913 01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:31,000 Speaker 4: Cool, no problem, I'm staying out of it. 1914 01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,040 Speaker 3: Hustle o'flow says on a comment about Kat and the 1915 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,760 Speaker 3: local radio host Wanda. She actually is a comedian too, 1916 01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:39,920 Speaker 3: She just isn't as quick as Cat. She tried to 1917 01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,960 Speaker 3: hit some quick things at his expense. I remember we 1918 01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:45,680 Speaker 3: played it on the show We Ain't Forgotten, when he 1919 01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,200 Speaker 3: was only there to support Red Grant, a Red's local event. 1920 01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:52,120 Speaker 3: Actually side note, Red play flag football was sheddy, but 1921 01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,519 Speaker 3: Kat was spraying so fast that his connection point didn't 1922 01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,280 Speaker 3: come up in the conversation. And on the COVID boosters, 1923 01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,680 Speaker 3: I got mine before homecoming season. I've known folks that 1924 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:02,559 Speaker 3: caught COVID the last two years at homecoming. I've also 1925 01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:04,920 Speaker 3: started selectively masking again when I feel like the play 1926 01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:06,960 Speaker 3: is going to be packed. I work remotely, but in 1927 01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:08,960 Speaker 3: conference calls, a lot of my coworkers have been coming 1928 01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:10,880 Speaker 3: up sick lately. Yeah, a lot of people getting sick. 1929 01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:18,439 Speaker 3: Man and comments on YouTube for this one. No comments 1930 01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:23,960 Speaker 3: on this one. You could tell we did coronavirus news 1931 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:25,600 Speaker 3: segment though, because you two put a thing and it 1932 01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:31,200 Speaker 3: said for information about COVID nineteen. Yeah, the poll CARDI 1933 01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:34,720 Speaker 3: had sex well all set on New Year's are you okay, yes, no? 1934 01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:38,080 Speaker 3: Or I don't know I'm okay, Karen's okay, all right, 1935 01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:43,360 Speaker 3: most of y'all are okay, eighty percent are okay, three 1936 01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:47,639 Speaker 3: percent are not okay. I'll appreciate your honesty, and seventeen 1937 01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,880 Speaker 3: percent don't know if they're gonna be okay, and that's cool. 1938 01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:54,080 Speaker 3: And on Spotify, seventy percent basically say yes, ten percent 1939 01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:56,680 Speaker 3: say no, and like twenty percent say they don't know 1940 01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:57,439 Speaker 3: if they're okay. 1941 01:33:58,520 --> 01:33:59,600 Speaker 2: The Q and A was. 1942 01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:03,880 Speaker 3: Shame on the nay sayer who try to run game 1943 01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:09,440 Speaker 3: on any sayers. So Lord says okay. Spotify for podcasters 1944 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:10,639 Speaker 3: is a banger ad. 1945 01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:12,560 Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you. 1946 01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:13,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1947 01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:15,840 Speaker 3: We recorded that at the same time we did the 1948 01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,559 Speaker 3: list for setting black people and white people back. 1949 01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,559 Speaker 4: It was my dearest time. I was like, we should 1950 01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:23,680 Speaker 4: do a drug commercial. 1951 01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,599 Speaker 3: I don't know who hears the ads, and who don't 1952 01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,880 Speaker 3: I know, if you listen on Spotify, I think you're 1953 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,320 Speaker 3: to ask. I don't know if y'all hear the ads, 1954 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,800 Speaker 3: if you don't listen on Spotify. But we always try 1955 01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:38,040 Speaker 3: to have fun, make it a sketch, do something, and 1956 01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:41,720 Speaker 3: this one was like a drug commercial and we came 1957 01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:42,960 Speaker 3: up with like a jingle and everything. 1958 01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,320 Speaker 4: It was fun, Lisa says. 1959 01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:50,680 Speaker 1: My husband and I podcast. Lisa says, my husband and 1960 01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:51,960 Speaker 1: I are professors in college. 1961 01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:52,960 Speaker 4: Should I play for them? 1962 01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:54,680 Speaker 2: I mean, in case I don't know. 1963 01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,200 Speaker 4: Has everybody heard it in the chat? 1964 01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:56,920 Speaker 6: Do y'all hear it? 1965 01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:58,519 Speaker 2: Some people do, some people don't. 1966 01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,560 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, just in case I guess people don't hear it, 1967 01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,560 Speaker 3: I'll go ahead and play it for y'all, just so 1968 01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,360 Speaker 3: y'all can know what it sounds like. You're right, because 1969 01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,760 Speaker 3: I have no I didn't even think about that till 1970 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:12,080 Speaker 3: just now. There might be people that. 1971 01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,320 Speaker 4: Generally don't know what we're doing. So here we go. 1972 01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:16,040 Speaker 6: Here's the ad. 1973 01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:18,760 Speaker 1: My doctor says, I need to start a podcast, but 1974 01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:20,320 Speaker 1: it sounds super complicated. 1975 01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:22,560 Speaker 3: My doctor said I need to earn some money so 1976 01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:25,240 Speaker 3: I can pay him and put a podcast in a 1977 01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,519 Speaker 3: place where it could be distributed everywhere even earn money. 1978 01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:30,560 Speaker 1: People say I talk too much and I need a 1979 01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,920 Speaker 1: place to record my podcast straight from my computer or phone. 1980 01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:37,640 Speaker 3: And that's when I asked my doctor about video podcast 1981 01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,000 Speaker 3: and they said that's also available on Spotify five to 1982 01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:42,360 Speaker 3: five for podcasters. 1983 01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 1: Now that I'm doing Spotify for podcasters, I'm taking my 1984 01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:51,560 Speaker 1: podcasting game to a whole nother level with Q and 1985 01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:52,400 Speaker 1: A and Pole. 1986 01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,599 Speaker 4: Yeah. Son, I'm absolutely getting money out here in these 1987 01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:58,639 Speaker 4: streets now with a variety of ways, include to ads 1988 01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:00,559 Speaker 4: and podcasts riptions. 1989 01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:02,640 Speaker 2: Spotify for podcasters. 1990 01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:06,799 Speaker 3: Spotify for podcasts cannot guarantee that you will get listenership, 1991 01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:08,799 Speaker 3: fan interaction to make any money off of your podcast. 1992 01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:10,760 Speaker 3: They are already too many podcasts. And who needs another 1993 01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:12,559 Speaker 3: one about not going on dating the cheese Kake Factory, 1994 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:18,600 Speaker 3: High Value man or Marve fatigue Spotify for podcasters. So 1995 01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:23,320 Speaker 3: that was this month, and they bear from month for month. 1996 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,920 Speaker 3: Every month is different, Yeah, and depend on. 1997 01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,320 Speaker 1: When you listen to any things like that. I don't 1998 01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,880 Speaker 1: know if it upstates small because sometimes people that. 1999 01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:32,800 Speaker 2: I heard this one, oh that's the old one, so 2000 01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:33,120 Speaker 2: it just. 2001 01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:36,240 Speaker 3: Oh no, it's I think it's Oh, I see what 2002 01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:39,000 Speaker 3: you say, but I think you think I think it's 2003 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,160 Speaker 3: whenever we change it, that's what you hear updated. So 2004 01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:43,240 Speaker 3: whatever month you're listening is what you're here, because I 2005 01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,799 Speaker 3: don't think it's like embeds it in the old episode. 2006 01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:49,960 Speaker 4: Okay, so that's it changes every month. I forget what 2007 01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:50,840 Speaker 4: December was. 2008 01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:53,680 Speaker 6: What's going on? Little kid? 2009 01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:55,240 Speaker 4: What do you want from Senate this year? 2010 01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:55,920 Speaker 2: Santa? 2011 01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,519 Speaker 1: I want to do Spotify podcast That's what I want 2012 01:36:58,560 --> 01:36:59,400 Speaker 1: for Christmas this year? 2013 01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:00,920 Speaker 6: What you just a little kid? 2014 01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:02,559 Speaker 4: Don't nobody want to hear what you got to say? 2015 01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,439 Speaker 4: And plus you broke, you little. 2016 01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,560 Speaker 1: Kid, Santa, don't call me a broke. Don't call me 2017 01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:10,040 Speaker 1: broke now. But you know what, while we're talking about it, 2018 01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,000 Speaker 1: talk about I'm broke, you broke too? Why don't you 2019 01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:12,920 Speaker 1: got the technology? 2020 01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:13,679 Speaker 4: You and your els? 2021 01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:15,080 Speaker 2: But anyway, we're gonna. 2022 01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,000 Speaker 1: Talk about Spotify for podcasts because that's what I want 2023 01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,400 Speaker 1: for Christmas. And with Spotify for podcasts, I can put 2024 01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:23,200 Speaker 1: my podcast out there through my phone and computer and 2025 01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:25,320 Speaker 1: it could be anywhere that podcasts I heard. 2026 01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:27,160 Speaker 4: And how you gonna make money off of this? 2027 01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:31,439 Speaker 1: I can make money by inserting commercials and I make 2028 01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:32,560 Speaker 1: money from Spotify. 2029 01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,360 Speaker 3: Okay, so I guess maybe next year you buy your 2030 01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:38,000 Speaker 3: own presence. You're ungrateful, little child. 2031 01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:40,560 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, that's that's no. We're not doing that. 2032 01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:43,240 Speaker 2: And the thing is about gratefulness. 2033 01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:45,639 Speaker 1: My my audience is gonna be grateful for me because 2034 01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put polls out there and we're gonna entertain 2035 01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:49,960 Speaker 1: each other and have a good time to interact with 2036 01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:50,559 Speaker 1: one another. 2037 01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,600 Speaker 4: Well, maybe I need to start using Spotify for podcasters. 2038 01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,839 Speaker 1: You do, you and missus clouds can make some gwops 2039 01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,639 Speaker 1: Santa and I can finally find out what a whole 2040 01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:00,639 Speaker 1: hole at. 2041 01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:04,760 Speaker 4: So yeah, we did that every month. 2042 01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:06,479 Speaker 2: We do that every month. 2043 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:08,680 Speaker 1: Like I said, we don't know who listens and who 2044 01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,599 Speaker 1: doesn't listen to them. I'm trying to think which one has. 2045 01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:15,439 Speaker 2: Been my one of my favorite ones? Can you think 2046 01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:16,120 Speaker 2: of what you want to say? 2047 01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:18,080 Speaker 4: I mean, all of them are good. 2048 01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:19,880 Speaker 3: That was I think this last one was one of 2049 01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:22,240 Speaker 3: my favorite ones just because of the setup of it. 2050 01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:25,400 Speaker 3: But I mean, I don't I don't have a mark 2051 01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:27,720 Speaker 3: by what we talked about. I can randomly click on 2052 01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:30,720 Speaker 3: another one if you want, but I don't know that 2053 01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:32,479 Speaker 3: we were even doing sketches the whole time. 2054 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:37,920 Speaker 4: I know we started doing them there, uh, at least 2055 01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:38,880 Speaker 4: the last few times. 2056 01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:42,000 Speaker 6: Let me see, Hey, kids, you want to make a podcast. 2057 01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:45,519 Speaker 4: Spotify has got a platform to let you make one 2058 01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:50,080 Speaker 4: super easy, and then you could distribute it everywhere, everywhere, everywhere, 2059 01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:54,160 Speaker 4: and you can even make money, make money. That's right, 2060 01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:58,200 Speaker 4: all in one place. Foul free Spotify podcasts let you 2061 01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:02,120 Speaker 4: record and edit podcast right from your phone, wow on 2062 01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:04,000 Speaker 4: your computer, So no matter. 2063 01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:06,440 Speaker 6: What your setup is like, you can start creating. 2064 01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:09,719 Speaker 4: Today, even me, even you, little buddy. 2065 01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:13,439 Speaker 3: Video podcasts are also available on Spotify, And when you 2066 01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:16,000 Speaker 3: want to take the conversation your fans to the next level, 2067 01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:19,000 Speaker 3: you can do questions and answers and polls. 2068 01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:23,200 Speaker 4: Don't we all love post kids yay poles. Well, all 2069 01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:23,920 Speaker 4: you gotta do is. 2070 01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:27,479 Speaker 3: Go to Spotify for podcasters so you can start earning 2071 01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:29,160 Speaker 3: your money today. 2072 01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:34,000 Speaker 4: And guess what, best of all what it's all totally free. 2073 01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:38,840 Speaker 3: Free, no catch yay yay Spotify for podcasters. 2074 01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,479 Speaker 4: So yes, just being silly, All right, let's move on. 2075 01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:43,599 Speaker 4: I don't play them all. 2076 01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:50,519 Speaker 3: My husband and I are professors at Colorado, says Lisa 2077 01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:53,080 Speaker 3: at the academic witch hunt. We are seeing nation wide 2078 01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:55,560 Speaker 3: is terrifying and ominous. Anytime I teach, I feel like 2079 01:39:55,640 --> 01:40:00,080 Speaker 3: my neck is on the line. Not stopping though, Well 2080 01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:02,280 Speaker 3: they better hope y'all continue to not to stop, because 2081 01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:05,400 Speaker 3: I think you get to a point where a lot 2082 01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:08,400 Speaker 3: of talent would be lost in academia, the same way 2083 01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,439 Speaker 3: it's been lost in our public school system, where people 2084 01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:12,559 Speaker 3: are like, not worth the headache. I can go find 2085 01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:15,599 Speaker 3: some other job in the private sector or something, make 2086 01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,360 Speaker 3: better money, be taken care of, and don't have to 2087 01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:18,640 Speaker 3: deal with. 2088 01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:21,280 Speaker 4: These fucking nutbags trying to get me out of the paint. 2089 01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:21,639 Speaker 8: Yeah. 2090 01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:23,920 Speaker 1: And also depends on who you are and how big 2091 01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,920 Speaker 1: you are, and you know kind of what you've been doing. 2092 01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:28,960 Speaker 2: Some people like a lot of things. 2093 01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:32,120 Speaker 1: Guess what they particularly in this field, they can only 2094 01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,719 Speaker 1: be like, Oh, I would go make my own brand, 2095 01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:37,320 Speaker 1: make my own name, take the following that I've kind 2096 01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:40,280 Speaker 1: of collected on these multiple platforms, and do my own shit. 2097 01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:41,680 Speaker 2: I don't even have to worry about y'all. 2098 01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:46,080 Speaker 3: Nwa nay sayers with an attitude, says James, and ms 2099 01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:50,439 Speaker 3: Barr says, and they say, what, all right, that's it 2100 01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,920 Speaker 3: for all the comments and stuff on the episodes, on 2101 01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:56,080 Speaker 3: the website, YouTube, Spotify and everything. 2102 01:40:57,080 --> 01:41:31,200 Speaker 4: Let's get into the voicemails that was called mystic. 2103 01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:40,120 Speaker 3: All right, here's the first voicemail from uh d Ramsey Phday. 2104 01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:41,920 Speaker 9: In New Year to the Black Guy and Tips podcast. 2105 01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:47,880 Speaker 9: This is d Ramsey Ramsey, all them Ramseys there it is, y'all. 2106 01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:51,600 Speaker 9: Thank you for this UH top twenty shot list of 2107 01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:53,120 Speaker 9: what that let people back. 2108 01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:56,840 Speaker 5: I love y'all for real. I really really loved being 2109 01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,840 Speaker 5: in the chat. Of course, I caught this episode right 2110 01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:01,960 Speaker 5: towards the end, so I didn't get to hear all 2111 01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:04,599 Speaker 5: twenty five, but I will play it back on the replay. 2112 01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:08,559 Speaker 5: Wishing you all all the blessings, all the success, all 2113 01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:12,240 Speaker 5: the laughter, jokes and joy that your hearts can stand 2114 01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,880 Speaker 5: and y'all keep doing what you do. I've been a 2115 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:18,639 Speaker 5: listener off and on since twenty sixteen, so I'm glad 2116 01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:22,200 Speaker 5: for this twenty five things that said black folk back, 2117 01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:26,040 Speaker 5: because y'all I love us for real. All right, y'all 2118 01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:29,000 Speaker 5: have a blessed week of blessed twenty twenty four and 2119 01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:30,080 Speaker 5: which our guessing. 2120 01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:34,240 Speaker 4: Byeh, thank you man, very happy to year. 2121 01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:34,400 Speaker 3: Is you? 2122 01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:38,760 Speaker 4: Tiffany Rice in for the cars, in for the next one. 2123 01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:42,600 Speaker 7: Hey, Ron, I'm calling it Tiffany, sureis. I was just 2124 01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:46,120 Speaker 7: calling to stay a very very happy new year. I'm 2125 01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,800 Speaker 7: glad to be going into twenty twenty four with the 2126 01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:53,360 Speaker 7: two of you and the podcast. I've been around since 2127 01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:58,639 Speaker 7: twenty sixteen, so I have never heard your list, your 2128 01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:02,960 Speaker 7: seven Block Folks Acts list and moving Box West Forward. 2129 01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:04,240 Speaker 8: I love a list. 2130 01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:07,920 Speaker 7: So this was one of my favorite episodes and I 2131 01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:11,880 Speaker 7: really enjoyed it. I laughed the entire time, and I 2132 01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:16,240 Speaker 7: hope that you guys continued to be blessed and loved 2133 01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:20,760 Speaker 7: and Karen. I didn't think any episode was going to 2134 01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:26,520 Speaker 7: talk the moving pictures from last week, but I absolutely 2135 01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:28,760 Speaker 7: loved this episode is my favorite so. 2136 01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:29,559 Speaker 4: Far of the year. 2137 01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:32,840 Speaker 8: It's the only one of the year, But you know 2138 01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:36,400 Speaker 8: what I mean, You guys, take care and I hope 2139 01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:39,400 Speaker 8: you have a good rest of the week. All right, thanks, 2140 01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:40,560 Speaker 8: Oh thank you. 2141 01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:43,600 Speaker 3: I'm glad you all enjoyed that list, man, because like 2142 01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:46,280 Speaker 3: that's one of the things that I've a lot of 2143 01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:48,640 Speaker 3: times I just either don't have time for just go. 2144 01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:51,120 Speaker 3: That was a long time ago, but I don't know, 2145 01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:53,560 Speaker 3: I just felt Karen had the day off work and 2146 01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:54,880 Speaker 3: it was like, you know, what. 2147 01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:57,679 Speaker 4: I woke up feeling inspired. I said, I've been thinking 2148 01:43:57,680 --> 01:43:58,479 Speaker 4: about it for a few days. 2149 01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:00,240 Speaker 3: I was like, we should bring that back just because 2150 01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:02,880 Speaker 3: it's be fun, and man, I was fine, So yeah, 2151 01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:04,040 Speaker 3: I'll plan to do it again. 2152 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:07,160 Speaker 4: Last one is from Gen. She left two voicemails. 2153 01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:13,800 Speaker 8: Hey, Rod and Karen, it's Jen calling y'all. It's been 2154 01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:17,960 Speaker 8: a minute since I called, and you know, I got 2155 01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,200 Speaker 8: a bone to pick with y'all, because you know, I 2156 01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:23,280 Speaker 8: got some things on my list here She've been covering, 2157 01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:28,760 Speaker 8: and number one is small violence because all I want 2158 01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:30,920 Speaker 8: to be able to do is grab my little popcorn 2159 01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:35,040 Speaker 8: and enjoy my gender wars and peace, you know what 2160 01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:36,600 Speaker 8: I'm saying. And then y'all have to come in with 2161 01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:41,040 Speaker 8: your little logic and reason, and I can't really enjoy 2162 01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:44,200 Speaker 8: the gender war the way I want to and be 2163 01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,720 Speaker 8: mad at this man. You know what I'm saying, y'all 2164 01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,360 Speaker 8: got to bring logic into the chat. So I'm mad 2165 01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:51,720 Speaker 8: because yeah, we just. 2166 01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:52,280 Speaker 7: Want to fight. 2167 01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:55,720 Speaker 4: I mean, your name is in gender war. 2168 01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,400 Speaker 3: You can't spell gender war without gin, so it makes 2169 01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:01,720 Speaker 3: sense people want to just like sip on some gin 2170 01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:02,720 Speaker 3: and fight with the man. 2171 01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:05,880 Speaker 4: I get it. I'm not mad at you, and it's funny. 2172 01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,280 Speaker 8: I know y'all don't give dating advice, but it is 2173 01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:15,840 Speaker 8: actually helpful to hear a logical argument for why we 2174 01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,800 Speaker 8: shouldn't hate Jonathan Owens. I think we're just meant to 2175 01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:23,040 Speaker 8: be so polarized, and that episode, I think I'll talk 2176 01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:25,040 Speaker 8: about it in a couple episodes. It's actually really helpful 2177 01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:28,519 Speaker 8: because I think, listen, I'm out here in La trying 2178 01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:31,160 Speaker 8: to date. It's treacherous, but I do be throwing people 2179 01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:34,080 Speaker 8: away for stupid shit, and it was helpful because I'm 2180 01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:36,360 Speaker 8: just like, oh, yeah, you can't just be throwing people 2181 01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:40,479 Speaker 8: away for anything. And you know, having y'all break it 2182 01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:42,479 Speaker 8: down the way you did made. 2183 01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:42,959 Speaker 1: Me think. 2184 01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:46,360 Speaker 8: That we just meant to be polarized. And it ain't 2185 01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:49,200 Speaker 8: really even that series most of the time. So I 2186 01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:52,760 Speaker 8: guess I thank you is in order. But I'm that 2187 01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:57,200 Speaker 8: because I really was just trying to grab my bulletpop worn. Yeah, 2188 01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,040 Speaker 8: I'm gonna call back, and I have a couple more 2189 01:45:59,080 --> 01:45:59,960 Speaker 8: things on my low list. 2190 01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:04,160 Speaker 3: All right, she did call back, but just real quick, 2191 01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:08,080 Speaker 3: I mean, to me, the true entertainment and most stuff 2192 01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:12,479 Speaker 3: is one step outside of just being like a rooting 2193 01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:15,920 Speaker 3: interest in the like the fund for the Cat William 2194 01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:16,839 Speaker 3: stuff isn't. 2195 01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:19,479 Speaker 4: Just him talking to shit. 2196 01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,840 Speaker 1: It's just like how good at it he was and 2197 01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:25,880 Speaker 1: how he was he literally doing a masterclass, like it 2198 01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:29,280 Speaker 1: was just amazing, And I think a lot of people 2199 01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,840 Speaker 1: failed to realize when he presented these things. It was 2200 01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:35,320 Speaker 1: the inflection of his voice, the way he was telling it, 2201 01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:40,080 Speaker 1: the slight of hand, how things were consistently moving. It 2202 01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:44,320 Speaker 1: was just beautiful just to watch, and he was saying 2203 01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,720 Speaker 1: it funny, and I think if they were having a 2204 01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:50,400 Speaker 1: serious conversation this would not have blown up the way 2205 01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:52,760 Speaker 1: it did. But because he was just allowed to just 2206 01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:57,479 Speaker 1: go and just be hisself, it made it beautiful to watch. 2207 01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:02,240 Speaker 3: But like in a distion that it's the like the 2208 01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,639 Speaker 3: craft and how no one's gonna be able to really 2209 01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:06,400 Speaker 3: respond to it. 2210 01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:07,760 Speaker 4: Everyone's gonna talk about it. 2211 01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:10,160 Speaker 3: There are at twenty two million views on that interview 2212 01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:15,400 Speaker 3: for YouTube, if not more. It like it completely changed 2213 01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:18,320 Speaker 3: the narrative on how people are gonna view those other guys' careers. 2214 01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:22,640 Speaker 3: It'll be because it's funny and truth truthful enough for 2215 01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:26,439 Speaker 3: truth ish, it'll stick to those people even if it's 2216 01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:29,800 Speaker 3: not true. So, like like I said, you literally have 2217 01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:32,600 Speaker 3: and it was what I thought it was. But you 2218 01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:35,000 Speaker 3: have Ice Cube come out and say, we did have 2219 01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:39,080 Speaker 3: Ricky Smiley audition for Mike first, and you know, but 2220 01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:41,960 Speaker 3: where we went with Kat and you're like, Okay, I 2221 01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:44,120 Speaker 3: can see how Ricky Smiley has a version of that 2222 01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,320 Speaker 3: where he was like, yeah, I was money Mike first, 2223 01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:50,200 Speaker 3: and I can see how Kat has a version of 2224 01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:53,040 Speaker 3: that where he's like, no, I was always gonna be 2225 01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:53,599 Speaker 3: money Mike. 2226 01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:54,280 Speaker 4: I'm better than you. 2227 01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:56,639 Speaker 3: And da da da Cat said he wrote the part, 2228 01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:58,719 Speaker 3: so how could anyone else play it? But Ice cues 2229 01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:01,000 Speaker 3: like that part was already written, it was already in there. 2230 01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:04,280 Speaker 3: And of course Kat is a comedian. He's doing stuff 2231 01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:07,360 Speaker 3: on the slide, he's rights, he's writing stuff on the spot. 2232 01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,200 Speaker 4: He's contributing, you know, to the writing. 2233 01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:12,280 Speaker 3: So like, yeah, he wrote it, but he didn't like 2234 01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:15,240 Speaker 3: invent it, and yes, it existed before him, and yes, 2235 01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:19,120 Speaker 3: so like truth didn't really matter because forever when you 2236 01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:22,120 Speaker 3: see Riggy smile, you're gonna be like the nigga that 2237 01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:25,639 Speaker 3: wears dresses because he's not funny and lied about having 2238 01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:28,599 Speaker 3: money Mike part. That's what's gonna and so he's great 2239 01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:30,040 Speaker 3: at that all right now that her. 2240 01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:35,280 Speaker 8: Next voicemail, it's Jen Agan. Yeah. I watched the whole 2241 01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,800 Speaker 8: Kat Williams interview. It was long, but it was really good, 2242 01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:41,600 Speaker 8: and I agree he's a great interviewer. I love his 2243 01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,880 Speaker 8: stand up, specifically the old stand up like y'all mentioned. 2244 01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:50,880 Speaker 8: But I was just laughing at Shannon's reactions, like when 2245 01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:54,639 Speaker 8: he said the Chris Tucker Jeffrey Epstein thing, and Channing 2246 01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:57,840 Speaker 8: was just like lo and of mercy laughing and his 2247 01:48:57,960 --> 01:48:59,920 Speaker 8: reactions and a lot of the comments are like Shannon's 2248 01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:03,080 Speaker 8: to get interviewer, he didn't really ask questions. But honestly, 2249 01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:06,240 Speaker 8: I think the pull that Shannon has to even get 2250 01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:08,679 Speaker 8: Kat on the show is really all that was needed, 2251 01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:11,240 Speaker 8: because Cat, you know, really stole the tea on his own. 2252 01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:15,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, and to Cat's credit, I don't even think Shannon's 2253 01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:16,800 Speaker 3: people got Cat on. 2254 01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:17,240 Speaker 8: Cat. 2255 01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:20,320 Speaker 3: Kat don't do a lot of interviews in press because 2256 01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:24,880 Speaker 3: he didn't have to. So Kat basically reached out to them, 2257 01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:29,000 Speaker 3: say you're not gonna say no, so do you have 2258 01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:31,160 Speaker 3: Amar for one of the few interviews he gives, and 2259 01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:35,800 Speaker 3: he gives you three hours of heat. And the more 2260 01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:38,040 Speaker 3: I thought about it, the more I'm like it's better 2261 01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:42,679 Speaker 3: for the content that Shan is not a rigorous interviewer 2262 01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:47,400 Speaker 3: and that he's mostly a sports personality trying to be 2263 01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:51,160 Speaker 3: like this weird kind of sitting in the influencer space, 2264 01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:55,559 Speaker 3: you know, where the host space not necessarily like I'm 2265 01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:59,879 Speaker 3: a rigid journalistic Like the point I made on pregame, 2266 01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:04,040 Speaker 3: if it was about journalism and fact checking, like if 2267 01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:08,640 Speaker 3: Kat Williams went on Real Sports with Brian Gumbel, that 2268 01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:10,640 Speaker 3: they would have cut that three hours down to like 2269 01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:13,840 Speaker 3: twenty minutes at best, and it would have. 2270 01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:16,479 Speaker 4: Been just what we can verify, just factual shit. 2271 01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:19,759 Speaker 3: They would have had to hit up some other sources 2272 01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,840 Speaker 3: ask the people he's talking about is this true? That 2273 01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:25,120 Speaker 3: would not have it would have made it a more 2274 01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:27,559 Speaker 3: factual interview. It wouldn't have made better content. 2275 01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:27,960 Speaker 4: Nope. 2276 01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:31,640 Speaker 3: And I just yeah, twenty two million views later or 2277 01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:34,639 Speaker 3: whatever the fucking number is, I think they were right, 2278 01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:38,240 Speaker 3: you know, like, maybe it's serendipity, maybe it's just luck. 2279 01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:40,160 Speaker 3: Maybe it would have happened to any of us, because 2280 01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:42,040 Speaker 3: that's the other thing. Kat was saying shit so fast 2281 01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:44,840 Speaker 3: and so many outlandish things mixed with jokes, no one 2282 01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:46,200 Speaker 3: would have been able to fact check him on the 2283 01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:48,439 Speaker 3: spot anyway, right, Like, the most you could do is 2284 01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:50,640 Speaker 3: ask a follow up question, and he's so good at 2285 01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:54,320 Speaker 3: deflecting follow up questions. I noticed that throughout the interview too, 2286 01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:56,880 Speaker 3: when Shannon did try to like be like, now, hold on, 2287 01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:59,160 Speaker 3: you can't mean that. Now, come on, now, Kat, you 2288 01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:02,200 Speaker 3: said you saying this, and then Kat would be like, 2289 01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:05,160 Speaker 3: is that not what I said, sir? Did I say 2290 01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:06,000 Speaker 3: it that? 2291 01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:08,400 Speaker 4: Then? What said? So then I don't know why we're 2292 01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:10,920 Speaker 4: asking questions, you know, and you're like, damn. 2293 01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:15,080 Speaker 3: He just really deflected all the like because now you 2294 01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:18,240 Speaker 3: stupid for continuing to be like, but don't we need 2295 01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:19,640 Speaker 3: some facts to back this part up? 2296 01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:20,679 Speaker 4: Now you're dumb. 2297 01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:23,360 Speaker 3: He already done told you and you let and then 2298 01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:26,160 Speaker 3: he kept alluding to you let these other motherfuckers come 2299 01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:30,200 Speaker 3: on here and lie. So this the platform of of 2300 01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:34,040 Speaker 3: liars apparently, so how you're gonna fact check me the 2301 01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:36,360 Speaker 3: truth teller, but not these liars. 2302 01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:38,120 Speaker 4: So it was it was brilliant, all right back to 2303 01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:39,080 Speaker 4: what you were saying though. 2304 01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:41,519 Speaker 8: So I loved it. I thought it was really interesting, 2305 01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:43,760 Speaker 8: and obviously, you know, some things went a little bit 2306 01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:45,600 Speaker 8: over the line, but I thought overall, it was a 2307 01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:48,759 Speaker 8: great interview. I also wanted to mention that I'm reading 2308 01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:54,560 Speaker 8: Complience Abuse. Had a bad day in a bookstore. But 2309 01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:56,599 Speaker 8: the good thing is I gotta I got that book 2310 01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:58,760 Speaker 8: I've been meaning to buy for a while. When you 2311 01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:01,360 Speaker 8: used to open the show with reading from a book, 2312 01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:03,599 Speaker 8: you will always mentioned that you've mentioned that a bunch. 2313 01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:07,679 Speaker 8: And it's funny because the intro to the book mentioned 2314 01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:11,679 Speaker 8: three conflicts up top right. It mentioned ray Rice, which 2315 01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:14,000 Speaker 8: is you've mentioned on the show just this past week. 2316 01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:18,120 Speaker 8: It mentions black lives matter, and it mentioned that it's 2317 01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:21,760 Speaker 8: really Palistinian conflict, which is so wild. Those things are 2318 01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:24,160 Speaker 8: just so relevant. And that book was written in like 2319 01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:29,800 Speaker 8: fourteen I believe, so shout out to you for keeping 2320 01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:33,760 Speaker 8: it relevant. And then last thing I was saying that 2321 01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,719 Speaker 8: cracked me ups when you said when is anybody who's 2322 01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:38,640 Speaker 8: burned books on the right side of history of That 2323 01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:42,080 Speaker 8: cracked me Anyway, I hope you'll have a good day. 2324 01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:43,280 Speaker 8: I love you both. Bye. 2325 01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:46,560 Speaker 3: It is wild, right, There's never been a movie with 2326 01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:50,519 Speaker 3: the good people burning books, right, and yet and yet 2327 01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:52,439 Speaker 3: there are people in real life like this. 2328 01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:54,080 Speaker 4: This is crazy. 2329 01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:58,960 Speaker 3: Oh man, I can't sometimes I can't believe we live 2330 01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:01,800 Speaker 3: through stuff like this. You know, in art, it's like 2331 01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:06,719 Speaker 3: the Nazis are always bad. There's the good Nazi movies. 2332 01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:09,320 Speaker 4: Was like, well, thank god for that the Nazi showed up. 2333 01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:13,479 Speaker 4: It's that we never have those movies, and yet there 2334 01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:15,719 Speaker 4: are people that are like, I want to be a Nazi. 2335 01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:18,200 Speaker 4: I want to get the tiki torch and tell people 2336 01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:22,760 Speaker 4: that's what I'm standing on. Wow. All right, let's get 2337 01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:25,479 Speaker 4: into the last thing, the emails that we had. 2338 01:53:25,600 --> 01:54:00,879 Speaker 3: We got some emails, y'all. All right, plenty of emails. 2339 01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:05,880 Speaker 3: Tanya w you right saying with the first one. It's 2340 01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:08,679 Speaker 3: taking me so long to comment on this year's live show. 2341 01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:10,840 Speaker 3: But it was amazing and so much fun. 2342 01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:13,200 Speaker 4: I had a ball. I was wondering, I was. 2343 01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:15,799 Speaker 3: It was wonderful me to miss Barnes and Doctor April 2344 01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,679 Speaker 3: and hoping to meet Lennard Brothers and his mom next time, 2345 01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:21,599 Speaker 3: and not just hear his voice from a row behind lol. 2346 01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:25,400 Speaker 3: And a shout out to the gentleman who I ran 2347 01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:28,960 Speaker 3: into later that evening, who also was at the show, 2348 01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:31,799 Speaker 3: had a great conversation with on the street. He mentioned 2349 01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:34,240 Speaker 3: his Twitter handle. But dang it, if I don't write 2350 01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:37,200 Speaker 3: these things down immediately, it's gone. Not trying to make 2351 01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:37,960 Speaker 3: a love connection. 2352 01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:38,560 Speaker 1: Lol. 2353 01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:41,040 Speaker 3: Me and my man are eighteen years in counting. But 2354 01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:43,040 Speaker 3: if he hears this, it wants to follow back. I 2355 01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:46,240 Speaker 3: am at Tanya Wyman, which is t A n W 2356 01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:50,280 Speaker 3: t A n y A w E I M A 2357 01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:54,200 Speaker 3: n so not a love connection thing. So you know, 2358 01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:57,560 Speaker 3: she's not, you know, trying to get no digits or nothing. 2359 01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:01,640 Speaker 3: She just you know, like you were cool and stuff. Okay, 2360 01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:03,640 Speaker 3: she got a man. Now, I know what you're thinking, 2361 01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:06,120 Speaker 3: what her man got to do with you? But she 2362 01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:06,840 Speaker 3: got a man. 2363 01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:09,600 Speaker 4: I know what you say. I'm not trying to hear that, dude, 2364 01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:13,440 Speaker 4: I know, but she got a man's But what a 2365 01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:17,760 Speaker 4: man got to do with Yeah, I get it. Okay. Oh, 2366 01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:21,880 Speaker 4: for some reason, my computer's acting up. Oh shit, now great, 2367 01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:27,240 Speaker 4: I still see okay, Yeah, I'm gonna have to go 2368 01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:30,760 Speaker 4: and chrome and open this or something. What what is happening? 2369 01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:34,880 Speaker 4: Why is it doing this? Son of a bitch. It's 2370 01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:36,440 Speaker 4: just like the whole thing, froze. 2371 01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:38,320 Speaker 6: I see my. 2372 01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:42,600 Speaker 3: Cameras working though it is Windows Explore. I gotta close 2373 01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:44,840 Speaker 3: this program. Guys, I don't have a choice. I'll be 2374 01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:46,240 Speaker 3: right back. I'm sorry everybody. 2375 01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:47,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna lose the sound. 2376 01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can't even like pause the recording right now. 2377 01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:55,840 Speaker 3: I just gotta try to vamp through it or something. Okay, 2378 01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:59,600 Speaker 3: all right, okay, let me pause it. All right, technical difficulties, 2379 01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:01,600 Speaker 3: but I think we worked it out. She goes on 2380 01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:04,080 Speaker 3: to say, you're black. I'm black. 2381 01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:07,240 Speaker 4: Well, I being black, Karen, Okay, I'm a black man 2382 01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:07,839 Speaker 4: in America. 2383 01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:08,920 Speaker 2: I mean your screen black. 2384 01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:13,360 Speaker 4: You look black to me. Okay, and I'm not colorists either, 2385 01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:14,680 Speaker 4: I just your screen is black. 2386 01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:17,320 Speaker 3: Guys, Can y'all sit here and see me in the 2387 01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:22,320 Speaker 3: chat because I see myself moving, So y'all let me 2388 01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:26,360 Speaker 3: know if something's technically going on on my end or 2389 01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:29,000 Speaker 3: his Karen's end even hear me. 2390 01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:29,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. 2391 01:56:31,120 --> 01:56:33,160 Speaker 3: I see Karen asking, can they see and hear me? 2392 01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:39,040 Speaker 3: And I'll see your screen as black? But I'm moving, no, no, okay, refreshing, 2393 01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:41,560 Speaker 3: all right, God damn it. 2394 01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:46,520 Speaker 4: Crowd cast. Everything was going fine, everything's going fine. 2395 01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:48,320 Speaker 3: I was like, maybe we won't have a three hour show, 2396 01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:50,840 Speaker 3: but guess what, guys, it's gonna be a fucking three 2397 01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:55,680 Speaker 3: hour show. Trying to power through it and my all 2398 01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:59,520 Speaker 3: screen moving yet. Okay, all right, so I must be back, 2399 01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:04,000 Speaker 3: all right, back to this. Also, for anyone who would 2400 01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:05,760 Speaker 3: like a little more join your life, please follow at 2401 01:57:05,800 --> 01:57:10,160 Speaker 3: Bloom and Plume aka Maurice Harris on Instagram. The World's 2402 01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:12,480 Speaker 3: Most Fabulous Floor is his post wonder for such a 2403 01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:15,960 Speaker 3: timeline clans. I first heard of him as a guest 2404 01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:19,200 Speaker 3: on Paul holding Grobbers the Quarantine Tapes podcast. 2405 01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:22,160 Speaker 4: All the Best, Tanya, Thanks Tanya. 2406 01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:24,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, Tanya. Tanya is one of my favorite people. 2407 01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:26,680 Speaker 1: When I get to branch out and try new foods, 2408 01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:29,840 Speaker 1: I always think about her. I cannot wait to one 2409 01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:32,560 Speaker 1: day get back up in New York. I talked to 2410 01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:37,120 Speaker 1: Rogerck's mom about you, Tanya, about all the great foods 2411 01:57:37,160 --> 01:57:37,480 Speaker 1: you have. 2412 01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:39,840 Speaker 2: You know, we ate that I couldn't pronounce. So we 2413 01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:40,960 Speaker 2: make our way back up there. 2414 01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:41,200 Speaker 6: Baby. 2415 01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:47,520 Speaker 3: It's a date, all right, Jeff says hay Rod and 2416 01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:49,720 Speaker 3: Karen Happy twenty twenty four, which you happen It's enjoyed 2417 01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:51,680 Speaker 3: this year. I hope to start off with the new 2418 01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:53,840 Speaker 3: year with a concern, but would love to hear your 2419 01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:54,720 Speaker 3: banter on this. 2420 01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:59,760 Speaker 4: And it's buying the Trump poll poll? What is this? 2421 01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:04,640 Speaker 3: A frank coalition Black Hispanic young voters abandoned Biden as 2422 01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:09,320 Speaker 3: election year begins. Uh, is it apathy misinformation on this 2423 01:58:09,480 --> 01:58:11,640 Speaker 3: case that y'all have no idea what you're in for 2424 01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:13,200 Speaker 3: by not supporting Biden? 2425 01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:15,160 Speaker 4: Always love and respect Jeff in Japan. 2426 01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:17,240 Speaker 3: Well, I feel like we talk about this stuff all 2427 01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:20,240 Speaker 3: the time on the show, and I don't have any 2428 01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:24,720 Speaker 3: new thoughts or anything to add. We've already talked about 2429 01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:27,920 Speaker 3: polls can be in misleading. Yes, that they may be 2430 01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:33,360 Speaker 3: causes for concern, but they also often are wrong both ways. 2431 01:58:33,400 --> 01:58:35,960 Speaker 3: By the way, you know, people didn't have Trump winning, 2432 01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:42,760 Speaker 3: people didn't have Biden winning. Uh, Biden was supposedly doing 2433 01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:46,160 Speaker 3: terrible in the polls before he ended up winning the 2434 01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:48,840 Speaker 3: election and having that youth vote and stuff. And at 2435 01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:52,080 Speaker 3: the same time, current events do affect things. Social media 2436 01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:57,800 Speaker 3: effects things, So he may be polling badly now, and 2437 01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:01,879 Speaker 3: whatever change things they try to do in the campaign 2438 01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:05,200 Speaker 3: may may. There will be adjustments made before November. But 2439 01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:07,320 Speaker 3: end of the day, we're gonna get the country we deserve. 2440 01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:10,200 Speaker 3: And I blame the voters. I don't blame the politicians. 2441 01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:12,680 Speaker 3: We know what's on the line. If people don't find 2442 01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:16,920 Speaker 3: that compelling enough, fine, we'll just go back through this bullshit, 2443 01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:19,120 Speaker 3: and we'll end up with Trump in office and it 2444 01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:21,000 Speaker 3: won't be better than it was the first time. So 2445 01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:24,520 Speaker 3: everything you claim to care about will probably end up 2446 01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:25,600 Speaker 3: worse off in his hands. 2447 01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:26,960 Speaker 6: And that's just the. 2448 01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:29,040 Speaker 4: Apathy that people live with or whatever. 2449 01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:32,760 Speaker 3: You know, Democrats have to be perfect and Republicans just 2450 01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:34,000 Speaker 3: get to be Republicans. 2451 01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:35,640 Speaker 4: That's just how it is in America. 2452 01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,720 Speaker 3: Linda says, Hey, y'all, email last week, but I'm actually 2453 01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:41,920 Speaker 3: been a long time listener, dropped off like a year 2454 01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:44,240 Speaker 3: or so ago, but just picked up the podcast again. 2455 01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:46,560 Speaker 3: To be honest, I missed you and thank you. Thanks 2456 01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:49,600 Speaker 3: for still working so hard at the podcast anyway, Kars, 2457 01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:51,960 Speaker 3: Mitch and Cozy grow and oh my goodness, I've been 2458 01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:53,040 Speaker 3: hooked on that game too. 2459 01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeay, I love that game. That game is a lot 2460 01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:57,520 Speaker 2: of fun. 2461 01:59:57,640 --> 02:00:00,760 Speaker 1: You don't need you like a cam, you own this 2462 02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:03,640 Speaker 1: island and it is so much fun. And as you're 2463 02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:07,480 Speaker 1: playing along, Okay, for those you like, what the hell 2464 02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:10,440 Speaker 1: care you talking about? This is can can't call Cozy Grove. 2465 02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:13,720 Speaker 1: So you like it's like a you know, kind of 2466 02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:15,280 Speaker 1: like the Girl Scout, but there on version of the 2467 02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Girl Scout and you get sent to this island and 2468 02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:20,680 Speaker 1: the whole purpose of while you're on the island, you're 2469 02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:23,440 Speaker 1: helping the spirits of the island, and you bring the 2470 02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:26,360 Speaker 1: As you help the spirits, they kind of expand the island. 2471 02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:28,560 Speaker 1: You can do certain things around Allen, you can finish 2472 02:00:28,640 --> 02:00:29,800 Speaker 1: oh so much fun. 2473 02:00:31,560 --> 02:00:35,000 Speaker 4: Well, they're enjoying it as well, they said. 2474 02:00:35,680 --> 02:00:38,040 Speaker 3: I play a lot of cozy games and simulators lately, 2475 02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:40,920 Speaker 3: mostly on Switch, but occasionally on PC. I currently have 2476 02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:43,480 Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty five hours in Cozy Grove because 2477 02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:45,240 Speaker 3: I got in the habit of playing it before bed 2478 02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:47,760 Speaker 3: and that finished almost all the achievement and collections. Some 2479 02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:49,720 Speaker 3: other games I've been playing lately that you might like 2480 02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:52,520 Speaker 3: is Cold of the Lamb Oxen play. I played that, 2481 02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:53,720 Speaker 3: Oxen Free. 2482 02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:56,240 Speaker 2: Let me right that down. I have an ox and Free. 2483 02:00:56,720 --> 02:00:58,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Cod to the Lamb, I can. 2484 02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:02,720 Speaker 3: I'll finish you tomorrow because we've played some of these already, okay, 2485 02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:05,280 Speaker 3: and I'll put it in the producer chat for you 2486 02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:06,240 Speaker 3: care since. 2487 02:01:06,040 --> 02:01:08,160 Speaker 2: You're you want to make a list right in case 2488 02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:09,520 Speaker 2: some of my Hatay, thank you. 2489 02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:15,400 Speaker 3: Cod of the Lamb Oxen Free, the Gardens between Spiritfair, 2490 02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:16,720 Speaker 3: which we loved. 2491 02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:19,920 Speaker 2: I beat that and I think the year it came out, 2492 02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:21,000 Speaker 2: was like my game of the year. 2493 02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:23,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, I don't even know if you ever 2494 02:01:23,560 --> 02:01:24,000 Speaker 4: finished it. 2495 02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:27,360 Speaker 1: I noticed for those of you who played this game, 2496 02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:30,240 Speaker 1: is why does it may sound I have not finished 2497 02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:33,160 Speaker 1: that game because in my mind, if I finished the game, 2498 02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:35,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like the end end. 2499 02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:38,120 Speaker 2: They're like, nope, They're gonna live forever in my mind. 2500 02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:40,560 Speaker 2: In my mind, so I say, nope, can a game? 2501 02:01:41,560 --> 02:01:50,480 Speaker 3: Uh Islanders, Moonlighter, Dredge, Kat Tomorrow, Katamari, Domicy Reroll Switch y'all. 2502 02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:52,240 Speaker 4: I played that one gives it a little bit of 2503 02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:53,480 Speaker 4: motion sickness for some reason. 2504 02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:58,640 Speaker 3: Wonder Song Yoshi's Crafted World untitled Goose game Don't Start. 2505 02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:02,480 Speaker 3: Sims for City sky Lines, Roller Coaster, Tycoons one, two, 2506 02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:04,520 Speaker 3: and three on Steam, So a lot some of these 2507 02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:08,040 Speaker 3: are PC games and Karen plays on console, and then 2508 02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:12,040 Speaker 3: some of these are like like City Skylines and roller 2509 02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:19,120 Speaker 3: Coaster Typecoon are definitely more like sim situations. But yeah, 2510 02:02:19,200 --> 02:02:22,400 Speaker 3: those are all like kind of cozy. Would love to 2511 02:02:22,440 --> 02:02:23,880 Speaker 3: hear of you to play any of those. 2512 02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:28,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Spoon Spiritfair was one you brought up for me. 2513 02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:33,000 Speaker 3: I also played Farm Together, which I loved, which is 2514 02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:34,160 Speaker 3: also a cool cozy game. 2515 02:02:34,280 --> 02:02:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I played not all of these. 2516 02:02:36,400 --> 02:02:39,680 Speaker 1: I played somebodyse well, but jory of these I have played, though, 2517 02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:41,600 Speaker 1: or at least attempted to play. 2518 02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:43,240 Speaker 6: If you think you like them. 2519 02:02:43,800 --> 02:02:46,040 Speaker 4: Some are very short, summer kind of spooky, because I 2520 02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:48,000 Speaker 4: like that. All have brought me joy. 2521 02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:50,360 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed the video your video game reviews as 2522 02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:52,520 Speaker 3: I get as that game a whole lot too. I'm 2523 02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:55,080 Speaker 3: working on finally building a PC now actually listening to 2524 02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:58,000 Speaker 3: you while I do so. I'm Frankenstein in some parts together. Secondhand, 2525 02:02:58,040 --> 02:03:02,680 Speaker 3: it's really fun. Keep on deeping on, Linda. Thank you, 2526 02:03:04,720 --> 02:03:09,240 Speaker 3: Tim right saying greetings. The Blackout tests called the title 2527 02:03:09,320 --> 02:03:11,880 Speaker 3: this is Worst x Mens Gift. Still a few episodes behind, 2528 02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:13,760 Speaker 3: but on listening to episode two eight seventeen, we y'all 2529 02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:15,040 Speaker 3: discussing the worst Christmas gifts. 2530 02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:16,040 Speaker 4: I have a couple examples. 2531 02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:19,280 Speaker 3: One year, when my siblings and I were kids, early nineties, 2532 02:03:19,320 --> 02:03:21,839 Speaker 3: we woke up what we thought was the best Christmas 2533 02:03:21,880 --> 02:03:22,280 Speaker 3: gift ever. 2534 02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:24,440 Speaker 4: So we're so were so many. 2535 02:03:24,520 --> 02:03:26,440 Speaker 3: There were so many gifts under the tree that the 2536 02:03:26,520 --> 02:03:29,400 Speaker 3: tree was lifted off the ground and reality our parents 2537 02:03:29,480 --> 02:03:32,160 Speaker 3: have rewrapped all of our old toys books, etc. And 2538 02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:34,000 Speaker 3: wanted to teach us a lesson to appreciate what we 2539 02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:38,240 Speaker 3: already have. What if you broke say that stop playing 2540 02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:39,120 Speaker 3: with my emotions? 2541 02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:39,720 Speaker 1: What. 2542 02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:43,440 Speaker 4: We grew up pretty poor, and we had already accepted that. 2543 02:03:44,040 --> 02:03:45,600 Speaker 4: I mean, we didn't know any difference. 2544 02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:48,520 Speaker 3: So not only was the lesson unnecessary, it only served 2545 02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:50,720 Speaker 3: the highlight just how poor we really were. 2546 02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:51,160 Speaker 9: Right. 2547 02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:53,640 Speaker 3: We all ended up getting some Dollar store socks or 2548 02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:55,480 Speaker 3: some such as the only new gift that year. 2549 02:03:55,640 --> 02:03:58,600 Speaker 4: Also, looking back, I'm realizing I don't think my dad 2550 02:03:58,840 --> 02:03:59,520 Speaker 4: liked me very much. 2551 02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:02,000 Speaker 3: By the time I was in junior high high school, 2552 02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:04,240 Speaker 3: all of the my gifts from him were either gad 2553 02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:06,760 Speaker 3: gifts or not really for me. He put books in 2554 02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:11,280 Speaker 3: gaming console boxes. Damn, that's evil, Kmar shoes and Nike 2555 02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:12,200 Speaker 3: Jordan boxes. 2556 02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:15,520 Speaker 4: What the fuck? That's abuse? This is this worse than 2557 02:04:15,600 --> 02:04:20,280 Speaker 4: some mo bios hus right and the Kudi gras. 2558 02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:24,280 Speaker 3: My junior year, my only gift was a play was 2559 02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:26,680 Speaker 3: a PlayStation the original and a couple of games, but 2560 02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:28,680 Speaker 3: I was never allowed to even look at it because 2561 02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:31,720 Speaker 3: I was busting my ass trying to secure scholarships for college. Yeah, 2562 02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:34,080 Speaker 3: that was the biggest That was the biggest trick the 2563 02:04:34,120 --> 02:04:36,600 Speaker 3: devil Lever pull was my parents get me video games, 2564 02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:41,400 Speaker 3: and then the video game controllers and plug spent ninety 2565 02:04:41,400 --> 02:04:43,320 Speaker 3: percent of their lifetime on top of the fridge because 2566 02:04:43,320 --> 02:04:45,560 Speaker 3: I was always in some kind of trouble because no 2567 02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:48,120 Speaker 3: kid is fucking perfect. I'm a kid, so it's like 2568 02:04:48,280 --> 02:04:50,720 Speaker 3: any one thing. It was like, give me the controllers. 2569 02:04:50,760 --> 02:04:52,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, God, damn, what's the point. 2570 02:04:53,040 --> 02:04:53,160 Speaker 1: Now? 2571 02:04:53,200 --> 02:04:56,000 Speaker 3: You wonder why I game so much? Now you wonder 2572 02:04:56,000 --> 02:04:58,400 Speaker 3: why I stay in the house and just play video games. 2573 02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:01,120 Speaker 1: Y'all can't come in here and take it from you. Can't, Yankee, 2574 02:05:01,160 --> 02:05:03,680 Speaker 1: can't nobody turn this motherfucker off. If I want to 2575 02:05:03,680 --> 02:05:06,360 Speaker 1: step up till three am, I can now because I'm ground. 2576 02:05:06,440 --> 02:05:08,440 Speaker 3: And that was back before you could save all the 2577 02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:11,840 Speaker 3: time and quick resents all that shit that had to 2578 02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:14,640 Speaker 3: memorize shit. They asked for the plug back. I gotta 2579 02:05:14,680 --> 02:05:17,360 Speaker 3: start vector man over at at fucking level one. 2580 02:05:18,160 --> 02:05:22,960 Speaker 4: Anyway, A uh So for two years I watched my 2581 02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:25,000 Speaker 4: dad and brothers play my games in my face. And 2582 02:05:25,040 --> 02:05:25,880 Speaker 4: when I finally. 2583 02:05:25,640 --> 02:05:28,040 Speaker 3: Graduated and actually got into college, I tried to take 2584 02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:29,960 Speaker 3: the console with me, and my dad said, Nigga, that's 2585 02:05:30,040 --> 02:05:33,000 Speaker 3: not yours. Wow, Damn, I thought I found something else 2586 02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:35,600 Speaker 3: to discuss in therapy writing this email, said Tim aka 2587 02:05:35,720 --> 02:05:42,240 Speaker 3: Blackgathist Pilot. Yeah, happy therapy, and Kimberly right saying. Kim 2588 02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:46,720 Speaker 3: B from Maryland, says Philosita Comedy regarding new Chavell and 2589 02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:51,480 Speaker 3: Jerrais specials. I haven't seen the Jerrace one yet, Hey, 2590 02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:53,560 Speaker 3: Rod and Careen, first time, long time. This is kim 2591 02:05:53,600 --> 02:05:55,960 Speaker 3: at Kim B musing on Instagram and Kim B for 2592 02:05:56,120 --> 02:05:58,520 Speaker 3: MD in the chat. I wanted to write in because 2593 02:05:58,520 --> 02:06:01,600 Speaker 3: I was reading an article about new Netflix comedy specials 2594 02:06:01,640 --> 02:06:04,920 Speaker 3: recently dropped by David Chappelle and Ricky Gervais, where they 2595 02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:07,240 Speaker 3: continue to rail against woke culture and act like punching 2596 02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:10,240 Speaker 3: down to somehow revolutionary. It reminds me, reminded me so 2597 02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:12,880 Speaker 3: much of what you would care frequently say about how 2598 02:06:12,920 --> 02:06:14,800 Speaker 3: you as audience members are happy to come along for 2599 02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:17,280 Speaker 3: the ride on some fucked up shit if they find 2600 02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:18,240 Speaker 3: a way to make it funny. 2601 02:06:18,600 --> 02:06:19,320 Speaker 4: From the article. 2602 02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:23,240 Speaker 3: Anthony Jeselnik told fellow comedian and podcaster Theovon earlier this 2603 02:06:23,400 --> 02:06:25,680 Speaker 3: year that too many stand ups would rather get into 2604 02:06:25,680 --> 02:06:27,680 Speaker 3: trouble while saying the wrong thing instead of focusing on 2605 02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:30,360 Speaker 3: their job and saying funny things. People think, oh, as 2606 02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:32,320 Speaker 3: a comic, your job is to get in trouble, but 2607 02:06:32,440 --> 02:06:34,480 Speaker 3: they don't want to get yelled at. It's like it's 2608 02:06:34,560 --> 02:06:37,440 Speaker 3: okay to make people mad, but they don't want any pushback. 2609 02:06:37,480 --> 02:06:39,720 Speaker 3: And I think that's wrong. Esin next said, as a comedian, 2610 02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:42,080 Speaker 3: you want to make people laugh. This is a quote 2611 02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:46,480 Speaker 3: contributed to Andy Warhol that I love art is getting 2612 02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:48,400 Speaker 3: away with it. You know, if you put out a 2613 02:06:48,440 --> 02:06:50,880 Speaker 3: special on everyone's piss like, you didn't get away with it. 2614 02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:53,800 Speaker 3: You know, you need to make everyone laugh that they're like, yeah, 2615 02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:56,040 Speaker 3: he talked about some fucked up stuff, but they are happy. 2616 02:06:56,120 --> 02:06:58,600 Speaker 4: That's art. Otherwise just the trolled. Yep. 2617 02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:02,400 Speaker 3: That's why people. It's what people don't realize that they 2618 02:07:02,480 --> 02:07:06,800 Speaker 3: worship about Patrise O'Neill. Like people think they love Patrise 2619 02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:07,640 Speaker 3: O'Neill because. 2620 02:07:07,400 --> 02:07:10,120 Speaker 4: They're like he always was saying, you know, Patrice would 2621 02:07:10,160 --> 02:07:12,760 Speaker 4: have said, But what they always forget is Patrice would 2622 02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:13,520 Speaker 4: have made it funny. 2623 02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:15,920 Speaker 2: Yes, And that's the biggest thing. 2624 02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:19,880 Speaker 1: And we've kind of and it's because of social media 2625 02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:23,480 Speaker 1: and influences being praised and all this this is just 2626 02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:25,320 Speaker 1: my I'm just thinking off top of don't why I'm 2627 02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:28,720 Speaker 1: saying this. Because of social media and influences being being 2628 02:07:29,400 --> 02:07:34,120 Speaker 1: praise and getting attention, you have comedians that kind of 2629 02:07:34,280 --> 02:07:39,320 Speaker 1: get into the influencer space and not trying to be funny. 2630 02:07:39,800 --> 02:07:43,400 Speaker 1: If I I go being about to go to comedy shows, 2631 02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:45,160 Speaker 1: I come for the motherfucking jokes. 2632 02:07:45,160 --> 02:07:46,880 Speaker 2: I didn't come for the goddamn ted talk. I didn't 2633 02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:49,680 Speaker 2: come to hear your fucking podcast. I came for the jokes. 2634 02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:54,240 Speaker 1: It's okay if your joke stout is storytelling that Like, 2635 02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:56,480 Speaker 1: I've heard all types of comedy. 2636 02:07:56,600 --> 02:07:57,680 Speaker 2: I am cool with that. 2637 02:07:58,320 --> 02:08:02,000 Speaker 1: But and I don't care if your jokes are political, Like, 2638 02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:05,240 Speaker 1: none of that shit bothers me. My thing is there 2639 02:08:05,240 --> 02:08:07,360 Speaker 1: are a lot of people that do things that are 2640 02:08:07,480 --> 02:08:09,640 Speaker 1: not funny and that like there's something wrong with the 2641 02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:13,080 Speaker 1: audience that says your shit ain't funny. Well the jokes 2642 02:08:13,480 --> 02:08:16,000 Speaker 1: instead of them saying I could have crafted it a 2643 02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:18,160 Speaker 1: better way blah blah blah blah blah blah, they turn 2644 02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:20,120 Speaker 1: around and they get angry at the audience, like it's 2645 02:08:20,120 --> 02:08:22,280 Speaker 1: the audience fault. But the audience is the ones that, 2646 02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:25,240 Speaker 1: particularly if you tour coming to your shows and they 2647 02:08:25,320 --> 02:08:26,480 Speaker 1: want to be entertained. 2648 02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:31,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I think, yeah, the artist is getting 2649 02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:34,680 Speaker 3: away with it. That is what makes it good, That's 2650 02:08:34,720 --> 02:08:39,640 Speaker 3: what makes it funny. I think, Uh Jervais, I haven't 2651 02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:42,320 Speaker 3: really been interested in his specials for a while, but 2652 02:08:42,440 --> 02:08:43,760 Speaker 3: he was never my cup of tea. 2653 02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:49,160 Speaker 4: Chappelle, I think is literally one of the greatest comedians 2654 02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:50,200 Speaker 4: of our lifetime. 2655 02:08:51,480 --> 02:08:54,840 Speaker 3: Used to go see this dude, drive seven hundreds of 2656 02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:58,320 Speaker 3: hours to go see him all the time, and I 2657 02:08:58,480 --> 02:09:01,440 Speaker 3: still think he's like, I think he's right in that 2658 02:09:02,640 --> 02:09:05,080 Speaker 3: he's too good at comedy, which he's been doing since 2659 02:09:05,120 --> 02:09:07,880 Speaker 3: he's like a teenager. He's too good at it to 2660 02:09:08,160 --> 02:09:11,880 Speaker 3: fail fail ever, right, And he's so good I think 2661 02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:14,400 Speaker 3: he can get people in a room to laugh at 2662 02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:15,880 Speaker 3: whatever the fuck he wants to talk about for the 2663 02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:20,280 Speaker 3: most part. So I've never really judged him on just 2664 02:09:20,640 --> 02:09:22,360 Speaker 3: is he getting people to laugh? And there's some people 2665 02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:24,680 Speaker 3: that are almost like sick of fans. They they root 2666 02:09:24,760 --> 02:09:27,160 Speaker 3: for people in the way they you know, like they're 2667 02:09:27,160 --> 02:09:29,960 Speaker 3: their friends, and so they don't want to hear that. 2668 02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:32,680 Speaker 4: You know, people don't like what Dave's doing. 2669 02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:37,040 Speaker 3: But I think we have to stick to reality and 2670 02:09:37,560 --> 02:09:42,240 Speaker 3: at some point in this Netflix resurgence, it's been more 2671 02:09:42,280 --> 02:09:45,360 Speaker 3: about the anger, and it's been more about people defending 2672 02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:49,560 Speaker 3: the Specials than enjoying the Specials. I listen to people 2673 02:09:49,640 --> 02:09:51,800 Speaker 3: that talk about the Specials every time they come out. 2674 02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:55,000 Speaker 3: I've never heard any of them really reiterate the jokes. 2675 02:09:55,040 --> 02:09:57,160 Speaker 3: And while they were funny, they always just go about 2676 02:09:57,520 --> 02:09:59,920 Speaker 3: people are mad, and here's why I fuck those people 2677 02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:02,360 Speaker 3: for being mad, And why are you trying to hold 2678 02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:05,320 Speaker 3: Dave to some standard that he doesn't really shouldn't even be. 2679 02:10:05,480 --> 02:10:06,880 Speaker 4: He doesn't even want to apply it to him. Blah 2680 02:10:06,920 --> 02:10:07,320 Speaker 4: blah blah. 2681 02:10:07,680 --> 02:10:09,640 Speaker 3: Not saying they're wrong for that, but I'm saying there 2682 02:10:09,720 --> 02:10:11,880 Speaker 3: was a time where and if I, if I bring 2683 02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:16,240 Speaker 3: up lines from killing me softly killing him softly, everyone 2684 02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:19,880 Speaker 3: will stop and go, yes, that's funny. I remember that, 2685 02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:23,480 Speaker 3: you know, I remember that whole fucking specially almost verbatim. 2686 02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:27,160 Speaker 3: You know, same thing with his thirty minute HBO joint. 2687 02:10:28,720 --> 02:10:31,960 Speaker 3: You know there's a the joint in San Francisco after that. 2688 02:10:33,160 --> 02:10:36,880 Speaker 3: But at some point he dug into the polarization that 2689 02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:42,000 Speaker 3: already exists and decided that it's not about necessarily if 2690 02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:45,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be funny, or not. I'm gonna lecture y'all, 2691 02:10:45,400 --> 02:10:48,839 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna be defiant and angry. 2692 02:10:49,400 --> 02:10:51,240 Speaker 4: This latest special, I don't think was that. I think 2693 02:10:51,280 --> 02:10:52,360 Speaker 4: it was a lot less. 2694 02:10:52,200 --> 02:10:57,840 Speaker 3: Angry, even though you know generally he is entrenched in 2695 02:10:57,960 --> 02:11:01,240 Speaker 3: this whole like I'm gonna find ways to poke fun 2696 02:11:01,320 --> 02:11:06,040 Speaker 3: of the LGBTQ people, especially trans people, in every special, 2697 02:11:06,200 --> 02:11:07,880 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna wedge the joke in there. And I 2698 02:11:07,960 --> 02:11:10,200 Speaker 3: think those are some of the most awkward moments is 2699 02:11:11,320 --> 02:11:14,520 Speaker 3: the because because it felt like such an agenda driven 2700 02:11:14,600 --> 02:11:18,080 Speaker 3: moment where it's like, this is just you being like, 2701 02:11:18,240 --> 02:11:20,640 Speaker 3: I need to keep making these people mad because I'm 2702 02:11:20,680 --> 02:11:23,320 Speaker 3: never gonna let them feel like they made me stop 2703 02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:25,520 Speaker 3: talking about this. And I know that's where it's coming from, 2704 02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:27,720 Speaker 3: or it feels like that's where it's coming from to me. 2705 02:11:29,240 --> 02:11:32,360 Speaker 3: But then there he was at least writing jokes like 2706 02:11:32,480 --> 02:11:35,440 Speaker 3: they were joke for him this time. The last few times, 2707 02:11:35,480 --> 02:11:38,760 Speaker 3: sometimes he's going a ten to twenty minute like thing 2708 02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:40,080 Speaker 3: that's just not funny. 2709 02:11:40,080 --> 02:11:42,920 Speaker 4: It's just a ted talk, as Karen said. 2710 02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:45,800 Speaker 3: So anyway back to this, when I read that, I 2711 02:11:45,880 --> 02:11:47,560 Speaker 3: was like, yes, exactly, that's what Rod of Karen be 2712 02:11:47,600 --> 02:11:50,480 Speaker 3: saying the comedian's firstponsibility to make us laugh. The best 2713 02:11:50,520 --> 02:11:52,800 Speaker 3: at the craft are able to reveal something insightful absurd 2714 02:11:52,800 --> 02:11:55,960 Speaker 3: about the human condition as a result, right, but bitterly 2715 02:11:56,080 --> 02:11:58,240 Speaker 3: demanding to get paid for being mean and contrayering with 2716 02:11:58,320 --> 02:12:00,320 Speaker 3: no consequences and more can to an adult less in 2717 02:12:00,360 --> 02:12:01,360 Speaker 3: tempertent than art. 2718 02:12:02,120 --> 02:12:06,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think also like we're the point where. 2719 02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:10,160 Speaker 3: The people that don't like him and don't fuck with 2720 02:12:10,240 --> 02:12:12,800 Speaker 3: a stand up are just as dependent on him for 2721 02:12:12,920 --> 02:12:14,919 Speaker 3: contents as Netflix. 2722 02:12:15,080 --> 02:12:15,800 Speaker 2: Like, yes they are. 2723 02:12:16,240 --> 02:12:18,920 Speaker 3: I'm watching people that I know didn't even want to 2724 02:12:19,000 --> 02:12:21,200 Speaker 3: hit play on that shit if they hit play, right, 2725 02:12:21,440 --> 02:12:23,120 Speaker 3: or people you know do the thing where they pack 2726 02:12:23,200 --> 02:12:25,080 Speaker 3: themselves on the back, Like I hit play, but I 2727 02:12:25,160 --> 02:12:27,600 Speaker 3: tapped out three minutes in because I'm such a great person. 2728 02:12:27,680 --> 02:12:30,120 Speaker 3: I could never And it's like, but if you hit 2729 02:12:30,200 --> 02:12:32,320 Speaker 3: play at all, which you know, that's the only thingy 2730 02:12:32,360 --> 02:12:34,280 Speaker 3: Netflix counts, by the way, even if you want to 2731 02:12:34,280 --> 02:12:36,200 Speaker 3: play thirty seconds, that's like it counts as a play. 2732 02:12:36,600 --> 02:12:41,160 Speaker 3: But if you hit play at all, I'm questioning your sanity, 2733 02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:45,920 Speaker 3: right because you're now four or five of these specials 2734 02:12:46,040 --> 02:12:49,080 Speaker 3: that have had the same either issue or you're out. 2735 02:12:49,800 --> 02:12:53,640 Speaker 3: You are now just as much depending on him for 2736 02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:57,200 Speaker 3: content as Netflix, because you clicked it for the content. 2737 02:12:57,360 --> 02:12:59,640 Speaker 3: Whether to say you can't stand it, well, let me 2738 02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:02,720 Speaker 3: let me yes, you're still a person that doesn't fuck 2739 02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:07,840 Speaker 3: with that. Congrats what here's here's your brownie, here's your 2740 02:13:07,880 --> 02:13:09,920 Speaker 3: fucking your aid on your score. 2741 02:13:10,840 --> 02:13:11,080 Speaker 6: Don't. 2742 02:13:11,480 --> 02:13:14,280 Speaker 4: I just don't give you any credit because why would 2743 02:13:14,280 --> 02:13:14,800 Speaker 4: you watch it? 2744 02:13:15,200 --> 02:13:15,360 Speaker 2: Right? 2745 02:13:15,760 --> 02:13:17,960 Speaker 4: I don't get what it is at this. 2746 02:13:18,080 --> 02:13:21,160 Speaker 3: Point, Like, I like, I respect the people that like 2747 02:13:21,200 --> 02:13:23,120 Speaker 3: I saw it Spando special came out, didn't watch it. 2748 02:13:23,200 --> 02:13:26,000 Speaker 4: Fuck him that I get more out of that. I'm like, shit, 2749 02:13:26,120 --> 02:13:28,160 Speaker 4: that mother forgot some integrity. They ain't watching that shit. 2750 02:13:28,720 --> 02:13:30,600 Speaker 4: Then the people that are like I ain't watched thirty 2751 02:13:30,680 --> 02:13:33,640 Speaker 4: seven seconds and I couldn't like, Okay, nigga, it's not 2752 02:13:33,760 --> 02:13:36,920 Speaker 4: the Holocaust. It's just a goddamn special on the platform 2753 02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:40,680 Speaker 4: you paid for. Just don't even play right, you know anyway? 2754 02:13:41,800 --> 02:13:43,560 Speaker 4: But yeah, this special. 2755 02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:45,640 Speaker 3: I thought he was back to trying to be bugs 2756 02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:49,800 Speaker 3: bunny and silly, and and I think also there's something 2757 02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:53,200 Speaker 3: inside of him that this is just our projection from me. 2758 02:13:53,720 --> 02:13:57,400 Speaker 3: There's something inside of him that is defiant and. 2759 02:13:59,080 --> 02:14:06,840 Speaker 4: He wants to his he wants to prove that he. 2760 02:14:07,040 --> 02:14:09,880 Speaker 3: Gets to be a clown when he wants to be 2761 02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:13,960 Speaker 3: a clown, and it will always strike people wrong. 2762 02:14:14,320 --> 02:14:16,720 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people wrong, not everybody. 2763 02:14:16,760 --> 02:14:20,640 Speaker 3: But it's always gonna strike people wrong because one the 2764 02:14:20,760 --> 02:14:24,000 Speaker 3: logic of his clown joke, like his the logic of 2765 02:14:24,080 --> 02:14:25,200 Speaker 3: his anti trans. 2766 02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:27,880 Speaker 4: Anti LGBTQ material, does not hold up to me. 2767 02:14:28,680 --> 02:14:34,200 Speaker 3: And it's mostly just because it's a sleight of hand, 2768 02:14:34,480 --> 02:14:37,680 Speaker 3: and it's an argument that if a white comedian used 2769 02:14:37,720 --> 02:14:42,160 Speaker 3: it about racism, all the black people that support Dave 2770 02:14:42,240 --> 02:14:44,120 Speaker 3: Chappelle would be on the opposite side of that. 2771 02:14:44,640 --> 02:14:45,800 Speaker 4: I know people to this day that. 2772 02:14:45,880 --> 02:14:49,120 Speaker 3: Won't move past Sarah Silverman doing blackface one tom or 2773 02:14:49,240 --> 02:14:52,320 Speaker 3: TV show that are like trans people need to get 2774 02:14:52,400 --> 02:14:55,160 Speaker 3: over Dave Chappelle making four or five specials and jokes 2775 02:14:55,200 --> 02:14:57,920 Speaker 3: about them and everyone needs to not be offended. And 2776 02:14:58,160 --> 02:15:01,600 Speaker 3: it's just comedy. What Jerar Suliman was doing just comedy 2777 02:15:01,640 --> 02:15:04,560 Speaker 3: with that blackface shit. You know, Amy Schumer is doing 2778 02:15:04,720 --> 02:15:08,440 Speaker 3: just comedy with her Mexican rape joke. A lot of 2779 02:15:08,480 --> 02:15:11,240 Speaker 3: people were doing just comedy. They were on the sacred 2780 02:15:11,240 --> 02:15:13,520 Speaker 3: space of the stage, and we ain't moved on and 2781 02:15:13,600 --> 02:15:17,080 Speaker 3: we're never moving on. So the idea that everyone has 2782 02:15:17,160 --> 02:15:19,960 Speaker 3: to be wrong because you laughed at these jokes is 2783 02:15:20,080 --> 02:15:23,760 Speaker 3: crazy to me, you know. But he's entrenched, and that's 2784 02:15:23,800 --> 02:15:24,480 Speaker 3: where we're stuck. 2785 02:15:24,600 --> 02:15:24,760 Speaker 1: You know. 2786 02:15:26,040 --> 02:15:30,520 Speaker 3: But he says, I mean, she says, Kimberly says, anyway, 2787 02:15:30,520 --> 02:15:32,480 Speaker 3: I just wanted to say, careenby Noan Robbers right. I've 2788 02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:34,440 Speaker 3: been listening for years, talk about the show constantly, and 2789 02:15:34,480 --> 02:15:36,720 Speaker 3: even have my kids eighteen and thirteen, play along with 2790 02:15:36,840 --> 02:15:39,440 Speaker 3: Guess the Raights to keep up the great workI too, Yeah, 2791 02:15:39,520 --> 02:15:42,200 Speaker 3: what I find the most interesting is people acting like 2792 02:15:42,320 --> 02:15:46,240 Speaker 3: Dave Chappelle has broken some sacred trust with the comedian 2793 02:15:46,880 --> 02:15:51,120 Speaker 3: versus audience shit. And as I've said, as a person, 2794 02:15:51,240 --> 02:15:53,760 Speaker 3: a student of comedy, a person that loves stand up, 2795 02:15:55,160 --> 02:15:58,920 Speaker 3: none of this, all these general rules are just not true, right. 2796 02:15:59,320 --> 02:16:04,480 Speaker 3: Richard Prior's some shit that was punching down, Eddie Murphy, 2797 02:16:05,560 --> 02:16:09,280 Speaker 3: Chris Rock, George Carlin. None of these people are perfect, 2798 02:16:09,320 --> 02:16:12,400 Speaker 3: little tiny put them in a box and put a 2799 02:16:12,440 --> 02:16:15,120 Speaker 3: bow on it. All of them paid it outside the 2800 02:16:15,160 --> 02:16:17,960 Speaker 3: box when they wanted to and inside, and David's carrying 2801 02:16:18,040 --> 02:16:22,720 Speaker 3: on that tradition. And even as I where I have 2802 02:16:22,880 --> 02:16:25,440 Speaker 3: an issue is not in the I'm not laughing because 2803 02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:29,440 Speaker 3: I'm offended. It's in I don't find the jokes that good. 2804 02:16:29,680 --> 02:16:31,360 Speaker 3: I get shock value jokes. 2805 02:16:31,400 --> 02:16:31,840 Speaker 4: I get it. 2806 02:16:31,920 --> 02:16:34,800 Speaker 3: And that's and I'm not saying I'm beyond above laughing 2807 02:16:34,840 --> 02:16:37,560 Speaker 3: at shock value jokes. You know, Like, I'm not, Like 2808 02:16:37,640 --> 02:16:39,960 Speaker 3: I said, I think I have a different issue than 2809 02:16:39,959 --> 02:16:42,160 Speaker 3: a lot of the people that are making content dissing 2810 02:16:42,840 --> 02:16:45,560 Speaker 3: his specials because I'm not one of these. 2811 02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:48,320 Speaker 4: I didn't even laugh once, so I'm like, no, I 2812 02:16:48,440 --> 02:16:48,840 Speaker 4: was laughing. 2813 02:16:48,959 --> 02:16:51,000 Speaker 3: It was some funny shit in there, and then he 2814 02:16:51,640 --> 02:16:55,920 Speaker 3: and then I think I'm chasing the high of watching 2815 02:16:56,920 --> 02:16:59,360 Speaker 3: an error where it felt to me like he just 2816 02:16:59,400 --> 02:17:00,840 Speaker 3: didn't miss right. 2817 02:17:01,080 --> 02:17:04,240 Speaker 4: And look, that's not fair. He's fucking fifty. 2818 02:17:04,280 --> 02:17:08,280 Speaker 3: Correct, you know, like he's he's making a special a year, 2819 02:17:08,320 --> 02:17:10,600 Speaker 3: which is ridiculous. No one's You don't even have new 2820 02:17:10,640 --> 02:17:12,560 Speaker 3: shit happened to you in a year. There's no time 2821 02:17:12,640 --> 02:17:15,600 Speaker 3: to change, to have new perspectives. This is all defending 2822 02:17:15,680 --> 02:17:16,920 Speaker 3: what the fuck you just we was saying. 2823 02:17:17,240 --> 02:17:20,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know, I don't I'm not as 2824 02:17:20,360 --> 02:17:25,360 Speaker 4: offended by him, and as I am just kind of like, oh. 2825 02:17:25,280 --> 02:17:27,680 Speaker 3: Man, he used to be better than this, But I 2826 02:17:27,760 --> 02:17:31,360 Speaker 3: guess he decided to. I don't almost give up, like 2827 02:17:31,480 --> 02:17:34,240 Speaker 3: I'm stuck in this place and I'm not moving on. 2828 02:17:35,080 --> 02:17:37,680 Speaker 3: I'm the audience and the people that hate me won't 2829 02:17:37,760 --> 02:17:39,840 Speaker 3: move on. So we're just gonna be doing this shit 2830 02:17:39,879 --> 02:17:42,360 Speaker 3: every year, And this year had the least him out 2831 02:17:42,400 --> 02:17:44,640 Speaker 3: of that tran stuff and all that in there. It 2832 02:17:44,800 --> 02:17:46,480 Speaker 3: just was still in there because I don't think he 2833 02:17:46,560 --> 02:17:50,240 Speaker 3: wants to look like he backed down. Gratitude. Eddrew says, Hello, 2834 02:17:50,360 --> 02:17:53,240 Speaker 3: Roddick Karen Hope, twenty twenty four. What has gotten off 2835 02:17:53,280 --> 02:17:55,840 Speaker 3: to a great start for both of y'all? Been listening 2836 02:17:55,879 --> 02:17:57,640 Speaker 3: since around twenty sixteen, but I haven't written it in 2837 02:17:57,760 --> 02:17:59,720 Speaker 3: a while. The recent illness of a couple close friends 2838 02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:01,760 Speaker 3: has really put it on my heart to express my 2839 02:18:01,879 --> 02:18:04,400 Speaker 3: appreciation and gratitude to the people who make my life better. 2840 02:18:04,760 --> 02:18:05,560 Speaker 4: This includes y'all. 2841 02:18:05,600 --> 02:18:07,720 Speaker 3: It's difficult for me to describe just how important you 2842 02:18:07,800 --> 02:18:10,240 Speaker 3: two are in my life. Simply state that I don't 2843 02:18:10,240 --> 02:18:11,960 Speaker 3: want to imagine the world without you too in it. 2844 02:18:12,400 --> 02:18:14,320 Speaker 3: When I turn on the podcast, it feels like I'm 2845 02:18:14,360 --> 02:18:16,920 Speaker 3: being comforted by two close friends on the back porch 2846 02:18:17,320 --> 02:18:19,360 Speaker 3: of one of those colonial style homes with a tall 2847 02:18:19,400 --> 02:18:23,360 Speaker 3: glass of country Line time lemonade. No matter what other 2848 02:18:23,400 --> 02:18:25,400 Speaker 3: concerns and issues I have at the moment, they all 2849 02:18:25,480 --> 02:18:29,040 Speaker 3: go on pausing the show begains. I'm continually expressed impressed 2850 02:18:29,080 --> 02:18:32,000 Speaker 3: by the dedication and effort you too put towards the shows, 2851 02:18:32,040 --> 02:18:34,320 Speaker 3: the freshness, the timeliness of your topics, the jingos, the 2852 02:18:34,360 --> 02:18:34,959 Speaker 3: new segments. 2853 02:18:35,200 --> 02:18:36,880 Speaker 4: It's cold to me that you are fulfilling your purpose 2854 02:18:36,920 --> 02:18:37,440 Speaker 4: here on earth. 2855 02:18:37,520 --> 02:18:39,400 Speaker 3: I can go on and on, but essentially I'll just 2856 02:18:39,520 --> 02:18:41,800 Speaker 3: be saying I love you in different ways, thank you 2857 02:18:41,920 --> 02:18:43,880 Speaker 3: both for all you due. I'm absolutely a fan for 2858 02:18:43,959 --> 02:18:46,480 Speaker 3: life ps. From time to time, my envision winning a 2859 02:18:46,520 --> 02:18:49,560 Speaker 3: lottery and I sweat for God. You too will be 2860 02:18:49,720 --> 02:18:53,279 Speaker 3: high on my list of gift recipients house cars, trips, 2861 02:18:53,320 --> 02:18:54,520 Speaker 3: the checkbook will be open. 2862 02:18:54,959 --> 02:18:55,840 Speaker 4: Oh thank you, Itri. 2863 02:18:55,879 --> 02:18:58,480 Speaker 3: Just that means a lot, man, and I appreciate you 2864 02:18:58,560 --> 02:19:00,400 Speaker 3: giving us our flowers while we still here. The man, 2865 02:19:00,640 --> 02:19:02,400 Speaker 3: you know, as we get older, I think you know, 2866 02:19:02,480 --> 02:19:05,720 Speaker 3: you see more people lose stuff, You see more you 2867 02:19:05,920 --> 02:19:10,879 Speaker 3: lose stuff. You just you know, you realize how temporary 2868 02:19:10,920 --> 02:19:13,480 Speaker 3: all this shit is, and you do you know. It's 2869 02:19:13,560 --> 02:19:16,000 Speaker 3: one of the reasons why I'm like the truth is important, 2870 02:19:16,080 --> 02:19:21,200 Speaker 3: but also like giving people the good truth is the 2871 02:19:21,320 --> 02:19:22,720 Speaker 3: good truth is as important as. 2872 02:19:22,640 --> 02:19:23,360 Speaker 4: The bad truths. 2873 02:19:24,160 --> 02:19:28,359 Speaker 3: So like, while we praise like you know, Cat Williams 2874 02:19:28,440 --> 02:19:31,320 Speaker 3: going on a podcast and talking shit about everybody and 2875 02:19:31,360 --> 02:19:35,400 Speaker 3: go eat telling the truth, you know, I think we 2876 02:19:35,440 --> 02:19:37,840 Speaker 3: should also praise the people that go on there and 2877 02:19:38,000 --> 02:19:42,039 Speaker 3: up the folks too, because those truths are just as valuable. Honestly, 2878 02:19:42,680 --> 02:19:44,959 Speaker 3: the best thing about the Cat Williams things actually been 2879 02:19:45,320 --> 02:19:47,160 Speaker 3: the amount of people in real life that are like, 2880 02:19:47,240 --> 02:19:50,240 Speaker 3: he blessed me by paying me more than I was 2881 02:19:50,280 --> 02:19:53,680 Speaker 3: supposed to supposed to get opening for him, no stuff 2882 02:19:53,800 --> 02:19:56,040 Speaker 3: like that. You know, he floated me money when I 2883 02:19:56,320 --> 02:19:58,600 Speaker 3: have no you know, I wasn't even able to eat 2884 02:19:58,640 --> 02:20:01,760 Speaker 3: as a communion. That's the that That's way more impressive 2885 02:20:01,800 --> 02:20:04,200 Speaker 3: than anything he said about any of those comedians y'all 2886 02:20:04,240 --> 02:20:08,280 Speaker 3: don't like agreed, Zoe says, Hey, Rod, you probably notice 2887 02:20:08,320 --> 02:20:11,600 Speaker 3: by now, but the reason Marvel hired James Gunn back 2888 02:20:11,640 --> 02:20:14,040 Speaker 3: after they fired him over his old tweets was because 2889 02:20:14,040 --> 02:20:17,400 Speaker 3: they realized they fucked up. They thought that by firing 2890 02:20:17,480 --> 02:20:20,359 Speaker 3: him they would get he would be blacklisted or untouchable, 2891 02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:22,280 Speaker 3: But right after he was fired, he was hired by 2892 02:20:22,440 --> 02:20:25,920 Speaker 3: WB to direct The Suicide Squad. Also, many of the cast, 2893 02:20:26,240 --> 02:20:28,880 Speaker 3: particularly Dea Bautista, suggest that they wouldn't return to the 2894 02:20:28,959 --> 02:20:32,000 Speaker 3: franchise without Gun. Marvel realized they were losing a multi 2895 02:20:32,080 --> 02:20:34,560 Speaker 3: million dollar asset over some dumb shit, so they rehired 2896 02:20:34,640 --> 02:20:37,520 Speaker 3: him to direct Guardians three and The Guardian's Christmas Special. 2897 02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:39,840 Speaker 4: But the damage had already been done. As you know, 2898 02:20:39,959 --> 02:20:41,160 Speaker 4: Gun is now the co head. 2899 02:20:41,040 --> 02:20:44,240 Speaker 3: Of the DCU films, and we'll direct the Superman reboot 2900 02:20:44,280 --> 02:20:46,680 Speaker 3: among other films. Given his track record, I'm sure those 2901 02:20:46,760 --> 02:20:49,640 Speaker 3: movies will be fired. Love the shoe A, love the show, 2902 02:20:50,480 --> 02:20:52,240 Speaker 3: keep up the good work in the New York piece, 2903 02:20:52,280 --> 02:20:54,720 Speaker 3: and my nay says, Zoe back look zibiting. 2904 02:20:55,040 --> 02:20:56,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we do know all this. 2905 02:20:57,360 --> 02:20:59,080 Speaker 3: But I think what I was trying to say is, 2906 02:20:59,120 --> 02:21:02,240 Speaker 3: at some point, there's just a guy in a suit 2907 02:21:02,400 --> 02:21:06,240 Speaker 3: in an office, whether it be Ike Pearl Motter, whether 2908 02:21:06,280 --> 02:21:12,840 Speaker 3: it be Kevin Faygey's someone said fuck that, we're getting. 2909 02:21:12,600 --> 02:21:14,360 Speaker 2: James gun back, somebody with power. 2910 02:21:14,760 --> 02:21:17,480 Speaker 3: And I'm saying we may have to see that in 2911 02:21:17,640 --> 02:21:21,480 Speaker 3: some other forms, like when we're talking about Claudian Gay, 2912 02:21:22,240 --> 02:21:24,959 Speaker 3: there's somebody that got the check book that's a booster 2913 02:21:25,080 --> 02:21:27,440 Speaker 3: or somebody for a school that's just gonna be like, man, 2914 02:21:27,560 --> 02:21:31,880 Speaker 3: fuck that we picked her, we wanted her tired this disruption. 2915 02:21:32,240 --> 02:21:34,480 Speaker 3: These motherfuckers don't just to come in and tell us 2916 02:21:34,520 --> 02:21:38,039 Speaker 3: what to do that. It's that simple sometimes and it's 2917 02:21:38,200 --> 02:21:40,840 Speaker 3: bad sometimes too. Like I think a lot of the 2918 02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:43,720 Speaker 3: like end of the Me Too movement was just like 2919 02:21:43,920 --> 02:21:47,520 Speaker 3: people going we were nice enough, Okay, y'all are getting 2920 02:21:47,560 --> 02:21:49,440 Speaker 3: down to like this guy put his hand on my 2921 02:21:49,520 --> 02:21:52,280 Speaker 3: back when we took a picture, and no, we're not 2922 02:21:52,480 --> 02:21:55,640 Speaker 3: firing this guy for that shit, Like you gotta you 2923 02:21:55,720 --> 02:21:58,600 Speaker 3: gotta fucking have something better than that, because y'all remember 2924 02:21:58,600 --> 02:22:01,120 Speaker 3: when the metwo started getting like a little more like 2925 02:22:01,840 --> 02:22:05,160 Speaker 3: in the grayish areas where you're like, I mean, I mean, 2926 02:22:05,200 --> 02:22:06,720 Speaker 3: I'm glad, I'm sorry you felt. 2927 02:22:06,600 --> 02:22:10,000 Speaker 4: Uncomfortable, but he shook your hand. 2928 02:22:10,160 --> 02:22:14,600 Speaker 3: Isn't necessarily the big joker that to get this, We're 2929 02:22:14,640 --> 02:22:16,600 Speaker 3: not gonna take away everything from this guy because he 2930 02:22:16,600 --> 02:22:18,960 Speaker 3: shook your hand or whatever, right or so and so 2931 02:22:19,080 --> 02:22:20,680 Speaker 3: asked you on a date or whatever, you know, because 2932 02:22:20,680 --> 02:22:22,920 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, everyone was trying to see 2933 02:22:23,000 --> 02:22:25,800 Speaker 3: what the boundaries were, right, But I really think at 2934 02:22:25,800 --> 02:22:27,640 Speaker 3: the end of the day, there were people in suit 2935 02:22:27,760 --> 02:22:32,320 Speaker 3: somewhere went yeah, that's enough, y'all, and sadly, like I said, 2936 02:22:32,320 --> 02:22:34,280 Speaker 3: it's not always good because I think with this one, 2937 02:22:34,280 --> 02:22:37,240 Speaker 3: it's like people now getting they you know, harassment and 2938 02:22:37,280 --> 02:22:40,200 Speaker 3: all this shit is still happening. But yeah, I think 2939 02:22:40,680 --> 02:22:44,880 Speaker 3: with James Gunn and whatever, that that happened, and we're 2940 02:22:44,879 --> 02:22:47,680 Speaker 3: gonna need to see that in academia because I this 2941 02:22:47,760 --> 02:22:50,119 Speaker 3: plagiarism shit that y'all can see is not gonna stop. 2942 02:22:50,040 --> 02:22:52,080 Speaker 2: You know, it is not somebody gotta step in, anybody 2943 02:22:52,120 --> 02:22:53,120 Speaker 2: stop the bullshit. 2944 02:22:53,640 --> 02:22:55,720 Speaker 3: Somebody's just gonna be like, we're not firing them, so 2945 02:22:55,959 --> 02:22:59,560 Speaker 3: be mad, right, and then we'll see what happens, Aaron 2946 02:22:59,640 --> 02:23:02,360 Speaker 3: said twenty eight thirty three. And they say, or please, 2947 02:23:02,680 --> 02:23:04,840 Speaker 3: I do agree about living in a bubble surrounded by 2948 02:23:04,879 --> 02:23:07,960 Speaker 3: biggest I do watch a lot of YouTube and popular 2949 02:23:08,040 --> 02:23:11,800 Speaker 3: channels published The channel published a video discussion between liberal 2950 02:23:11,920 --> 02:23:15,200 Speaker 3: lesbians and conservative lesbians. I thought that liberal lesbians made sense, 2951 02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:17,520 Speaker 3: it supported most of their ideas. The conservative lesbians, what 2952 02:23:17,640 --> 02:23:20,400 Speaker 3: in Ox and Moorn, were just loud and wrong most 2953 02:23:20,440 --> 02:23:23,200 Speaker 3: of the time. I thought that the YouTube comments would 2954 02:23:23,200 --> 02:23:26,040 Speaker 3: be on the liberal side but ninety five percent of 2955 02:23:26,080 --> 02:23:27,759 Speaker 3: the comments were on the conservative. 2956 02:23:27,360 --> 02:23:28,400 Speaker 4: Side, and I was a little shocked. 2957 02:23:28,800 --> 02:23:31,000 Speaker 3: I had an idea that they were probably a lot 2958 02:23:31,040 --> 02:23:34,320 Speaker 3: of conservative commentators who don't regularly watch this channel but 2959 02:23:34,560 --> 02:23:36,920 Speaker 3: did chime in the voice that concerns on this particular topic. 2960 02:23:37,040 --> 02:23:38,920 Speaker 3: But it was a little eye opening to me that 2961 02:23:39,200 --> 02:23:41,959 Speaker 3: it that it can be in my own world. 2962 02:23:42,800 --> 02:23:43,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 2963 02:23:43,160 --> 02:23:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, because the Internet and online and something for some 2964 02:23:48,400 --> 02:23:51,680 Speaker 1: people in real life has created a reality that's not real. 2965 02:23:52,320 --> 02:23:54,560 Speaker 1: And that's how you can have people saying all types 2966 02:23:54,560 --> 02:23:57,280 Speaker 1: of shit and when you go, oh, you hadn't talked 2967 02:23:57,320 --> 02:24:01,560 Speaker 1: to anybody outside your bubble, because every you believe, there's 2968 02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:04,440 Speaker 1: somebody that believes the complete opposite of that, and you 2969 02:24:04,680 --> 02:24:05,480 Speaker 1: have to remember that. 2970 02:24:05,920 --> 02:24:07,320 Speaker 2: And if you remember that, you will. 2971 02:24:07,240 --> 02:24:09,560 Speaker 1: Know what's a consistent fight, and you won't get to 2972 02:24:09,640 --> 02:24:11,520 Speaker 1: the point where you get this apathy and all this 2973 02:24:11,640 --> 02:24:15,120 Speaker 1: shit because you're surrounded by people who all think the same. No, 2974 02:24:15,879 --> 02:24:19,959 Speaker 1: everything that you consider freedom, everything you want to stand 2975 02:24:20,040 --> 02:24:22,360 Speaker 1: up for, there's somebody somewhere that was like, I wanna 2976 02:24:22,440 --> 02:24:25,440 Speaker 1: take that shit away from you, and I will do 2977 02:24:25,720 --> 02:24:28,640 Speaker 1: whatever I can to do that and accomplish that. 2978 02:24:30,360 --> 02:24:30,480 Speaker 6: Uh. 2979 02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:31,480 Speaker 4: Lending the Wright saying. 2980 02:24:31,520 --> 02:24:34,199 Speaker 3: In episode twenty eight thirty three, y'all talked about academic 2981 02:24:34,280 --> 02:24:37,040 Speaker 3: dishonesty being weaponized against people, and man, I wouldn't be 2982 02:24:37,120 --> 02:24:38,840 Speaker 3: surprised if that happened all over the place. 2983 02:24:39,160 --> 02:24:39,840 Speaker 4: I got a few. 2984 02:24:39,720 --> 02:24:41,800 Speaker 3: Degrees and briefly worked in academia, and one of the 2985 02:24:41,840 --> 02:24:44,160 Speaker 3: biggest things that pisses me off is how little universities 2986 02:24:44,200 --> 02:24:47,720 Speaker 3: care about things like sexism, racism, sexual harassment, abuse, etc. 2987 02:24:47,959 --> 02:24:50,199 Speaker 4: But they go hard on academic dishonesty. 2988 02:24:50,480 --> 02:24:52,240 Speaker 3: They threaten you about it a lot, and it is 2989 02:24:52,320 --> 02:24:55,039 Speaker 3: a policy they love to brag about how much they enforce. 2990 02:24:55,160 --> 02:24:58,000 Speaker 4: But man, I've never really understood why it mattered so much. 2991 02:24:58,080 --> 02:25:00,640 Speaker 3: To be honest, I've never really cared that much of 2992 02:25:00,680 --> 02:25:02,320 Speaker 3: my peers cheat and like honestly. 2993 02:25:03,360 --> 02:25:04,480 Speaker 4: But it's bad, I guess. 2994 02:25:04,959 --> 02:25:07,520 Speaker 3: But if universities put even a fraction as much effort 2995 02:25:07,560 --> 02:25:09,880 Speaker 3: into things that actually matter and that actually degrade the 2996 02:25:09,920 --> 02:25:13,760 Speaker 3: integrity in the institution, they be find a lot more professors. 2997 02:25:13,840 --> 02:25:15,840 Speaker 3: Let me tell you so, I guess it sort of 2998 02:25:15,879 --> 02:25:18,440 Speaker 3: makes sense that if they want to silence people to 2999 02:25:18,520 --> 02:25:21,640 Speaker 3: make sure someone look bad, academic dishonesty. 3000 02:25:21,640 --> 02:25:23,320 Speaker 4: Would be a useful tool to do that. 3001 02:25:23,600 --> 02:25:26,160 Speaker 3: Since they have more systems in place to make that 3002 02:25:26,280 --> 02:25:29,199 Speaker 3: ruin someone's career, then I wish they use on people 3003 02:25:29,200 --> 02:25:32,080 Speaker 3: who actually are doing more harm. And like, I don't 3004 02:25:32,200 --> 02:25:34,440 Speaker 3: know much about the situation at hand, but this story 3005 02:25:34,520 --> 02:25:36,640 Speaker 3: touched the nerve for me since I got a lot 3006 02:25:36,680 --> 02:25:37,879 Speaker 3: of feelings about academia. 3007 02:25:38,160 --> 02:25:42,280 Speaker 4: Keep on keeping all, Linda, Thanks Linda. Yeah, I think, yeah, 3008 02:25:42,480 --> 02:25:42,840 Speaker 4: you're right. 3009 02:25:42,959 --> 02:25:49,000 Speaker 3: There's already systems in place for the academic dishonesty that 3010 02:25:49,120 --> 02:25:51,039 Speaker 3: can really get people out to pay. And I think 3011 02:25:51,160 --> 02:25:52,879 Speaker 3: one of the reasons that it's that way is because 3012 02:25:52,879 --> 02:25:56,920 Speaker 3: it's like the NCAA, because they can't catch everybody because 3013 02:25:56,920 --> 02:25:59,560 Speaker 3: it's too many people, it's too rampidt they make it 3014 02:25:59,680 --> 02:26:01,360 Speaker 3: so that if we do catch you, we throw the 3015 02:26:01,400 --> 02:26:04,359 Speaker 3: whole book at you, and that's supposed to scare everybody 3016 02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:07,200 Speaker 3: from into being honest. That's what they're hoping. I don't 3017 02:26:07,200 --> 02:26:10,000 Speaker 3: know if it's working, but that's what they're hoping, right about. 3018 02:26:10,080 --> 02:26:12,879 Speaker 3: Jonathan Owens this from Keith All to Homie Keith. 3019 02:26:12,920 --> 02:26:16,080 Speaker 4: I know him from Facebook. I'm a week behind on episodes. 3020 02:26:16,120 --> 02:26:18,040 Speaker 3: I still haven't caught up on the feedback episode for 3021 02:26:18,160 --> 02:26:20,640 Speaker 3: this episode, So my bad to everyone that this has 3022 02:26:20,640 --> 02:26:22,600 Speaker 3: already talked about it as a huge wave of feedback, 3023 02:26:22,640 --> 02:26:25,080 Speaker 3: and everyone's hearing or tired of hearing about it. 3024 02:26:25,600 --> 02:26:27,119 Speaker 4: It's just, throughout this thing being. 3025 02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:29,560 Speaker 3: A topic, I've had a consistent thought standing out in 3026 02:26:29,600 --> 02:26:31,560 Speaker 3: my head, and hearing your thoughts on the show reminded 3027 02:26:31,600 --> 02:26:33,840 Speaker 3: me of it. I'm not ashamed to admit that I 3028 02:26:33,920 --> 02:26:36,520 Speaker 3: initially did take debait of how it was framed and 3029 02:26:36,760 --> 02:26:38,760 Speaker 3: when I saw it on my feed since a lot 3030 02:26:38,840 --> 02:26:41,000 Speaker 3: of other people did too. And my first thought was 3031 02:26:41,360 --> 02:26:44,160 Speaker 3: I understand him refusing to shrink himself because everyone thinks 3032 02:26:44,200 --> 02:26:46,320 Speaker 3: his wife is dope, but it would have been pretty 3033 02:26:46,360 --> 02:26:48,560 Speaker 3: easy for him not to say that. When I saw 3034 02:26:48,600 --> 02:26:50,520 Speaker 3: it blow up on social media, it soon became clear 3035 02:26:50,600 --> 02:26:53,279 Speaker 3: this was another gender war that people were fighting by proxy, 3036 02:26:53,360 --> 02:26:56,039 Speaker 3: and I backed off, but not knowing the full context. 3037 02:26:56,120 --> 02:26:58,560 Speaker 3: I definitely don't think the second half of that sentence anymore, 3038 02:26:59,040 --> 02:27:01,760 Speaker 3: but the first part I believe even more. It's a 3039 02:27:01,879 --> 02:27:04,120 Speaker 3: major pet peeve of mine when people want to praise 3040 02:27:04,200 --> 02:27:06,200 Speaker 3: my wife and yes, by all means do that she's 3041 02:27:06,240 --> 02:27:09,080 Speaker 3: amazing and I'm married her for a reason, but feel 3042 02:27:09,160 --> 02:27:11,160 Speaker 3: like in order to do so, they can put me down. 3043 02:27:11,879 --> 02:27:13,240 Speaker 4: It's not that I'm insecure. 3044 02:27:13,360 --> 02:27:16,360 Speaker 3: I just find it disrespectful of obnoxious, and even when 3045 02:27:16,440 --> 02:27:18,720 Speaker 3: they intended as a lighthearted joke, I will tell them 3046 02:27:18,800 --> 02:27:21,400 Speaker 3: I didn't think it was funny, or make things awkward 3047 02:27:21,440 --> 02:27:22,800 Speaker 3: by asking them to explain. 3048 02:27:22,520 --> 02:27:23,080 Speaker 4: The joke to me. 3049 02:27:23,600 --> 02:27:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen Keith do this on Facebook before, and 3050 02:27:27,080 --> 02:27:30,840 Speaker 3: I thought it was a valid point where like, you know, 3051 02:27:31,000 --> 02:27:33,160 Speaker 3: like someone would like it's like he write a post 3052 02:27:33,200 --> 02:27:35,879 Speaker 3: praising his wife or something, and then you know it's 3053 02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:38,000 Speaker 3: just and this is part of patriarchy, by the way, 3054 02:27:38,120 --> 02:27:40,440 Speaker 3: this is the parts that people like, so they don't 3055 02:27:40,440 --> 02:27:44,000 Speaker 3: want to talk about it, right, But it's this thing 3056 02:27:44,120 --> 02:27:46,480 Speaker 3: of like down the man and it big. 3057 02:27:46,440 --> 02:27:48,480 Speaker 4: Ups the woman. So it's like if she dealing with 3058 02:27:48,560 --> 02:27:51,320 Speaker 4: her slub like you, how'd you do that? And so 3059 02:27:51,560 --> 02:27:52,560 Speaker 4: when someone goes. 3060 02:27:52,400 --> 02:27:55,920 Speaker 3: Against that narrative, to be honest, that's closer to equality 3061 02:27:56,000 --> 02:27:57,320 Speaker 3: and feminism. 3062 02:27:57,480 --> 02:28:00,120 Speaker 4: Yes, it is the person that is the partner of 3063 02:28:00,200 --> 02:28:03,840 Speaker 4: a woman being like she pulled me. It's closer to 3064 02:28:04,480 --> 02:28:06,960 Speaker 4: like an actual But it's like when people see a 3065 02:28:07,040 --> 02:28:10,280 Speaker 4: woman proposed to a man, it doesn't fucking matter what 3066 02:28:10,480 --> 02:28:13,800 Speaker 4: their ideals and things they stand to claim to stand 3067 02:28:13,840 --> 02:28:16,000 Speaker 4: for me, it goes out the window. 3068 02:28:16,080 --> 02:28:18,360 Speaker 3: It's like the fucking lizard brain takes over there, like, 3069 02:28:18,800 --> 02:28:22,360 Speaker 3: how dare this bitch? Why would you humble all women? Like, 3070 02:28:22,440 --> 02:28:24,400 Speaker 3: it's okay for that, Like a man should want to 3071 02:28:24,480 --> 02:28:25,879 Speaker 3: get you, not the other way. 3072 02:28:26,040 --> 02:28:28,800 Speaker 4: So you do believe that bullshit then, so you do 3073 02:28:29,000 --> 02:28:29,400 Speaker 4: believe it. 3074 02:28:29,640 --> 02:28:33,160 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's okay when you think it's benefiting you when 3075 02:28:33,200 --> 02:28:36,680 Speaker 3: you need to be chosen, because if you're being chosen, 3076 02:28:36,680 --> 02:28:38,160 Speaker 3: that means the man covets. 3077 02:28:37,840 --> 02:28:39,760 Speaker 4: You and supposedly he won't cheat on you, and he 3078 02:28:39,800 --> 02:28:41,680 Speaker 4: won't do this. Let me tell you something, a lot 3079 02:28:41,720 --> 02:28:44,039 Speaker 4: of women being proposed to and got cheated on. Yes 3080 02:28:44,080 --> 02:28:47,160 Speaker 4: they have period. So I ain't no fucking magic bullet 3081 02:28:47,160 --> 02:28:47,880 Speaker 4: with any of this shit. 3082 02:28:48,400 --> 02:28:50,880 Speaker 3: We like the way certain things look when we like 3083 02:28:50,959 --> 02:28:53,960 Speaker 3: the way they look, and that's it. There's no real 3084 02:28:54,120 --> 02:28:57,760 Speaker 3: logic to it. And these relationships are so individual. Nobody's 3085 02:28:57,800 --> 02:29:02,600 Speaker 3: relationship can really form yours completely, right, you're a different 3086 02:29:02,640 --> 02:29:04,240 Speaker 3: person as it's the people you're with or. 3087 02:29:04,240 --> 02:29:05,000 Speaker 4: Whatever the fuck. 3088 02:29:05,080 --> 02:29:08,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, but yeah, I've seen him say that before, 3089 02:29:08,520 --> 02:29:09,959 Speaker 3: and I'm like, Yo, that's a good point. 3090 02:29:10,000 --> 02:29:12,119 Speaker 4: I never thought about that. But yeah, people often will 3091 02:29:12,240 --> 02:29:14,640 Speaker 4: shit on the dude, and it's just like cause you 3092 02:29:14,720 --> 02:29:16,640 Speaker 4: should take it. You have male privilege. But like what 3093 02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:19,480 Speaker 4: if I'm just like fam, I feel like we're equal, 3094 02:29:20,240 --> 02:29:22,600 Speaker 4: and I think you can big up her and I'm 3095 02:29:22,640 --> 02:29:24,600 Speaker 4: not intimidating if you big up and. 3096 02:29:24,760 --> 02:29:26,600 Speaker 1: Right, I don't have a problem with that, but don't 3097 02:29:26,640 --> 02:29:30,200 Speaker 1: insult me like like I quote uncle ate shit and 3098 02:29:30,320 --> 02:29:30,959 Speaker 1: we and. 3099 02:29:31,040 --> 02:29:33,640 Speaker 3: We definitely would not ever do it the other way, right, 3100 02:29:34,520 --> 02:29:36,200 Speaker 3: So I definitely can see that, you know, and that's 3101 02:29:36,240 --> 02:29:39,520 Speaker 3: his personal preference. Some dudes will, they'll do it to themselves. 3102 02:29:39,879 --> 02:29:41,600 Speaker 3: You know, I'm a piece of shit. I can't believe 3103 02:29:41,680 --> 02:29:43,000 Speaker 3: I poored this beautiful woman. 3104 02:29:43,000 --> 02:29:45,000 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. But yeah, there's something to it. 3105 02:29:45,160 --> 02:29:47,360 Speaker 3: It also says something about her, which is your wife 3106 02:29:47,440 --> 02:29:50,199 Speaker 3: chose a piece of shit, which I think is weird. 3107 02:29:50,720 --> 02:29:52,480 Speaker 3: They know that I choose chose my wife, but she 3108 02:29:52,680 --> 02:29:54,960 Speaker 3: forgetting that she also chose me. So what does that 3109 02:29:55,040 --> 02:29:57,240 Speaker 3: say about what you think about her? I know that 3110 02:29:57,400 --> 02:29:59,520 Speaker 3: owns much sense that times a thousand, so I can 3111 02:29:59,560 --> 02:30:01,560 Speaker 3: relate to that heavy. Yes, my wife is the shit, 3112 02:30:01,840 --> 02:30:03,840 Speaker 3: but I'm not gonna pretend I'm some bump ass nigga 3113 02:30:03,840 --> 02:30:05,680 Speaker 3: because I'm at a presence and you think I'm not 3114 02:30:05,800 --> 02:30:07,959 Speaker 3: worthy of her as I'm supposed to hold my opinion of. 3115 02:30:08,040 --> 02:30:11,080 Speaker 4: Me and evil regard of hers, or even respected at all. 3116 02:30:11,560 --> 02:30:14,200 Speaker 3: People think they're defending or supporting someone, but what they're 3117 02:30:14,240 --> 02:30:19,440 Speaker 3: doing is an infant infantalizing her. Clearly he respects and 3118 02:30:19,520 --> 02:30:21,560 Speaker 3: honors her, and vice versa. That's the part for me, 3119 02:30:22,280 --> 02:30:24,760 Speaker 3: is like they say that protect they're doing this to 3120 02:30:25,080 --> 02:30:27,000 Speaker 3: have her back, as she is going, please don't do this, 3121 02:30:27,680 --> 02:30:30,960 Speaker 3: and they sound like, you know, like every other version 3122 02:30:31,000 --> 02:30:32,840 Speaker 3: of a weird though on the internet, and. 3123 02:30:32,920 --> 02:30:34,840 Speaker 1: Also some of those things where you're stripping her of 3124 02:30:34,879 --> 02:30:37,920 Speaker 1: her autonomy. And when you point that out, all of 3125 02:30:37,959 --> 02:30:39,600 Speaker 1: a sudden, you the party of people something wrong with you. 3126 02:30:40,080 --> 02:30:42,600 Speaker 1: But you are because she told you what she wanted, 3127 02:30:43,200 --> 02:30:47,119 Speaker 1: and a lot of the same people. You know women's rights, 3128 02:30:47,440 --> 02:30:51,280 Speaker 1: you know equality, you know choice. This is also part 3129 02:30:51,320 --> 02:30:53,760 Speaker 1: of that choice too, But this is the choice that 3130 02:30:53,840 --> 02:30:56,560 Speaker 1: people reject. You know what I'm saying like this is 3131 02:30:56,760 --> 02:30:59,320 Speaker 1: when you say choice, you mean all of the choices, 3132 02:30:59,720 --> 02:31:01,800 Speaker 1: not just the choices that me and mine would make. 3133 02:31:02,200 --> 02:31:04,680 Speaker 1: Choice means all of the choices, even if I don't 3134 02:31:04,680 --> 02:31:06,880 Speaker 1: agree with it, as long as it's not breaking the law, 3135 02:31:07,320 --> 02:31:10,600 Speaker 1: it's a choice. And so you should have the freedom 3136 02:31:10,640 --> 02:31:13,240 Speaker 1: and the right to make the choice if I agree 3137 02:31:13,240 --> 02:31:14,120 Speaker 1: with it or I don't matter. 3138 02:31:14,160 --> 02:31:14,880 Speaker 2: I'm not fucking you. 3139 02:31:15,480 --> 02:31:17,480 Speaker 1: But a lot of times people feel like if you 3140 02:31:17,640 --> 02:31:21,160 Speaker 1: put anything out in public, regardless of if you're famous 3141 02:31:21,280 --> 02:31:24,760 Speaker 1: or not, I have which is understandable. I have the 3142 02:31:24,840 --> 02:31:26,480 Speaker 1: right to interject and you just have to deal with 3143 02:31:26,600 --> 02:31:29,720 Speaker 1: whatever I say, and your pushback is the problem. But 3144 02:31:29,879 --> 02:31:31,880 Speaker 1: you go, well, that's not how I feel, and these 3145 02:31:31,920 --> 02:31:33,520 Speaker 1: are my facts and these are my truth, and people 3146 02:31:33,520 --> 02:31:35,600 Speaker 1: go for a fuck that this is how I feel 3147 02:31:35,600 --> 02:31:37,800 Speaker 1: about your relationship and you is more important than how 3148 02:31:37,840 --> 02:31:38,440 Speaker 1: you really feel. 3149 02:31:38,480 --> 02:31:40,000 Speaker 2: Like persons who's going through the situation. 3150 02:31:40,879 --> 02:31:43,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely everything you said I agree with. 3151 02:31:45,360 --> 02:31:47,400 Speaker 3: He goes on to say, of course, like you said 3152 02:31:47,760 --> 02:31:49,800 Speaker 3: on the show, maybe we're wrong, and he turns out 3153 02:31:49,800 --> 02:31:51,960 Speaker 3: to be an ain shit nigga this whole time. That 3154 02:31:52,120 --> 02:31:54,200 Speaker 3: sort of thing has happened before, but I sense no 3155 02:31:54,280 --> 02:31:57,039 Speaker 3: evidence of that from the podcast interview. Yeah, and that's 3156 02:31:57,040 --> 02:31:59,200 Speaker 3: the thing, like, I don't if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, 3157 02:31:59,280 --> 02:32:02,640 Speaker 3: I don't give a fun It's not like unlike these motherfuckers. 3158 02:32:02,720 --> 02:32:05,760 Speaker 4: I'm not pretending like I know them so well. 3159 02:32:06,680 --> 02:32:11,320 Speaker 3: I'm saying from my relationship and the relationships I've seen. 3160 02:32:11,959 --> 02:32:14,760 Speaker 3: I can see how that's not what people think. It is, 3161 02:32:15,720 --> 02:32:19,080 Speaker 3: like Jesus a narcissistic, abusive asshole trying to be let her. 3162 02:32:19,640 --> 02:32:21,920 Speaker 3: I can see how it could not be that way. 3163 02:32:22,520 --> 02:32:25,320 Speaker 3: And if that bothers people, who gives a fuck, I 3164 02:32:25,400 --> 02:32:28,560 Speaker 3: don't care. I think you're the crazy one. So now 3165 02:32:28,640 --> 02:32:31,640 Speaker 3: we're both crazy. The other part of this that I 3166 02:32:31,720 --> 02:32:36,080 Speaker 3: always thought was Hella interesting was how much stuff you 3167 02:32:36,160 --> 02:32:39,760 Speaker 3: have to ignore to make that work, because there's other 3168 02:32:39,920 --> 02:32:42,240 Speaker 3: things in the interview, you know. One of the things 3169 02:32:42,480 --> 02:32:46,880 Speaker 3: she said recently, someone as TMZ asked or something, she 3170 02:32:47,040 --> 02:32:50,240 Speaker 3: said that her and Jonathan don't argue, don't talk about 3171 02:32:50,360 --> 02:32:54,680 Speaker 3: who's the better athlete, because they both just end up 3172 02:32:54,760 --> 02:32:58,320 Speaker 3: arguing or whatever about it, right, And I saw so 3173 02:32:58,360 --> 02:33:00,280 Speaker 3: many people like, see, I told you I was right. 3174 02:33:01,360 --> 02:33:04,840 Speaker 4: He says he's a better athlete to her. Nobody even 3175 02:33:05,000 --> 02:33:07,720 Speaker 4: knows how good what you do in the NFL. 3176 02:33:08,040 --> 02:33:13,920 Speaker 3: She's simon bows and I'm like, okay, y'all, do know 3177 02:33:14,520 --> 02:33:19,400 Speaker 3: that better is subjective? Yes, they're both are athletes. Professionally, 3178 02:33:19,760 --> 02:33:23,720 Speaker 3: they competitive spirits. He could be like, can you dunk 3179 02:33:23,800 --> 02:33:27,880 Speaker 3: this basketball? And he who has the highest vertical who 3180 02:33:28,000 --> 02:33:31,240 Speaker 3: runs the fastest forty He could really be trying to 3181 02:33:31,320 --> 02:33:34,879 Speaker 3: be literal like that, and that's part of their dynamic, 3182 02:33:35,040 --> 02:33:39,000 Speaker 3: like they joke about it and Jen she does her. Motherfucker, 3183 02:33:39,040 --> 02:33:42,320 Speaker 3: I'm the best at in the world at flipping. I 3184 02:33:42,400 --> 02:33:43,440 Speaker 3: don't lose my only. 3185 02:33:43,320 --> 02:33:45,120 Speaker 4: Competition myself, you know. 3186 02:33:45,840 --> 02:33:47,959 Speaker 3: But I think what happens is we don't know them, 3187 02:33:48,360 --> 02:33:51,280 Speaker 3: so we're not imagining in a cute, funny way. Like 3188 02:33:51,360 --> 02:33:56,120 Speaker 3: when you saw that commercial with Dwayne Wade and Gabrielle Union. 3189 02:33:56,600 --> 02:33:58,800 Speaker 3: They did a Gatorade commercial together where they both were 3190 02:33:58,840 --> 02:34:01,720 Speaker 3: working out is anything you could do I could do better? 3191 02:34:01,760 --> 02:34:04,480 Speaker 3: And it was cute, right, people love that commercial. It's 3192 02:34:04,520 --> 02:34:07,879 Speaker 3: oh my god, look at black loves Right to fit people. 3193 02:34:07,959 --> 02:34:09,920 Speaker 3: But at no point where we were like, you know, 3194 02:34:11,240 --> 02:34:15,199 Speaker 3: because Gabrielle Union actually is better than Dwayne Wade. 3195 02:34:15,000 --> 02:34:16,320 Speaker 4: That athletic. 3196 02:34:16,440 --> 02:34:19,120 Speaker 3: We weren't like the commercial said anything you do I 3197 02:34:19,160 --> 02:34:21,760 Speaker 3: could do better, But we weren't like, well, she can 3198 02:34:21,879 --> 02:34:24,240 Speaker 3: go out and get twenty points in the finals on 3199 02:34:24,480 --> 02:34:25,480 Speaker 3: the Dallas Mavericks. 3200 02:34:25,520 --> 02:34:26,000 Speaker 4: We didn't say. 3201 02:34:26,240 --> 02:34:28,640 Speaker 2: Nobody was saying that, you know, he could out roll 3202 02:34:28,760 --> 02:34:29,360 Speaker 2: out her. 3203 02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:32,840 Speaker 3: Right, It's just cute, Yes, that's it, and you can 3204 02:34:32,959 --> 02:34:35,800 Speaker 3: have cute if your shit is secure or you feel 3205 02:34:35,879 --> 02:34:36,800 Speaker 3: in a secure place. 3206 02:34:37,000 --> 02:34:37,360 Speaker 2: Correct. 3207 02:34:37,760 --> 02:34:40,240 Speaker 3: So, I don't know what some people see is like this, 3208 02:34:40,480 --> 02:34:42,200 Speaker 3: It can only be one way. I don't see that way, 3209 02:34:42,800 --> 02:34:45,920 Speaker 3: but also not coming at it with a history that 3210 02:34:46,040 --> 02:34:49,560 Speaker 3: is informed by a lot of insecurity around that stuff. Anyway, 3211 02:34:49,879 --> 02:34:52,440 Speaker 3: Sorry about everyone for digging up this. Sorry to everyone 3212 02:34:52,520 --> 02:34:54,360 Speaker 3: for digging up this old shit on this topic that 3213 02:34:54,520 --> 02:34:57,039 Speaker 3: honestly had already been dragged on a couple weeks too long. 3214 02:34:57,080 --> 02:35:00,360 Speaker 4: But I felt strongly about that. Thanks Keith so Less, 3215 02:35:00,800 --> 02:35:02,640 Speaker 4: says hi Rod and Karen, Happy New Year. 3216 02:35:02,680 --> 02:35:05,080 Speaker 3: I really like closing out the year with JL episode 3217 02:35:05,120 --> 02:35:07,840 Speaker 3: that was perfect closed between twenty three episode two eight 3218 02:35:07,879 --> 02:35:10,080 Speaker 3: three three they say, please, I'm like Karen, that will 3219 02:35:10,120 --> 02:35:12,440 Speaker 3: be my new favorite phrase to us a mixed company. 3220 02:35:12,520 --> 02:35:16,440 Speaker 4: Lol. I want to touch on coronavirus news, so just 3221 02:35:16,520 --> 02:35:17,280 Speaker 4: to let you know. 3222 02:35:17,480 --> 02:35:20,120 Speaker 3: It's getting real in the streets, hospitals in this area 3223 02:35:20,160 --> 02:35:23,280 Speaker 3: started requiring masks for staff and visitors again. Even if 3224 02:35:23,280 --> 02:35:25,640 Speaker 3: it's only a few weeks, it is helpful. What is 3225 02:35:25,680 --> 02:35:28,640 Speaker 3: frustrating is the COVID Conscious COVID series social media crowd 3226 02:35:28,959 --> 02:35:33,320 Speaker 3: is is that they have black, white thinking and seeming 3227 02:35:33,400 --> 02:35:36,400 Speaker 3: capable of nuance and self reflection. For example, as you stated, 3228 02:35:36,440 --> 02:35:38,520 Speaker 3: they ell erase how the behavior of many people was 3229 02:35:38,600 --> 02:35:41,440 Speaker 3: to minimize, ignoring guidelines, masking distances, etc. 3230 02:35:41,959 --> 02:35:43,760 Speaker 4: To reject that COVID was a serious problem. 3231 02:35:43,840 --> 02:35:47,800 Speaker 3: From January February twenty twenty through the beginning of the 3232 02:35:47,840 --> 02:35:51,360 Speaker 3: Biden administration, they rejected everything, even when their god made 3233 02:35:51,400 --> 02:35:54,320 Speaker 3: the policy. When Biden Harris came in, they made some 3234 02:35:54,440 --> 02:35:56,880 Speaker 3: really good policies ensuring that anyone who want to access 3235 02:35:56,920 --> 02:35:58,080 Speaker 3: the vaccines, mask etc. 3236 02:35:58,320 --> 02:36:00,920 Speaker 4: Could have them. And after the initial rush, many people 3237 02:36:01,080 --> 02:36:01,440 Speaker 4: moved on. 3238 02:36:01,680 --> 02:36:05,120 Speaker 3: Forty five judges struck down mandates, companies mandated back in 3239 02:36:05,240 --> 02:36:08,720 Speaker 3: person work. Republicans in the government cut funding and undercut 3240 02:36:08,800 --> 02:36:12,800 Speaker 3: policies to help, like extend help that help, like extend 3241 02:36:12,840 --> 02:36:17,000 Speaker 3: the unemployment, extra food steps, child tax credit. Yeah, not 3242 02:36:17,120 --> 02:36:19,320 Speaker 3: to mention, a lot of them didn't even take the 3243 02:36:19,360 --> 02:36:22,920 Speaker 3: government money, just let us sit in coffers to just 3244 02:36:23,040 --> 02:36:25,720 Speaker 3: to be like so they could spite Biden in them 3245 02:36:25,760 --> 02:36:29,400 Speaker 3: and be like, guys, in my state, my citizens, don't 3246 02:36:29,480 --> 02:36:32,440 Speaker 3: y'all feel how terrible got Biden is, that there's no 3247 02:36:32,560 --> 02:36:35,280 Speaker 3: help coming and that COVID is not a real problem. 3248 02:36:35,320 --> 02:36:37,160 Speaker 3: We don't have to deal with it. Meanwhile, some of 3249 02:36:37,240 --> 02:36:39,480 Speaker 3: those some of that money for like infrastructure and shit. 3250 02:36:39,680 --> 02:36:42,040 Speaker 3: Then you have Republicans that would spend the money and 3251 02:36:42,160 --> 02:36:44,800 Speaker 3: then just act like fuck Biden and fucked that money. 3252 02:36:44,640 --> 02:36:46,800 Speaker 1: Though yes, and then buying it was like, hey, if 3253 02:36:46,879 --> 02:36:48,680 Speaker 1: y'all not spend this money, we want our money back. 3254 02:36:49,040 --> 02:36:49,800 Speaker 2: He was like, fuck that. 3255 02:36:50,000 --> 02:36:52,160 Speaker 1: If you're not gonna put the money where it was 3256 02:36:52,240 --> 02:36:55,200 Speaker 1: allocated to go, give us our money back. Then I 3257 02:36:55,200 --> 02:36:57,040 Speaker 1: al would say they about a hand hih flop, and 3258 02:36:57,080 --> 02:36:59,240 Speaker 1: he was like, well, the bitch, do what you're supposed. 3259 02:36:58,800 --> 02:36:59,680 Speaker 6: To do your job. 3260 02:37:00,160 --> 02:37:03,360 Speaker 4: The suffering is the point. Then fast forward to the 3261 02:37:03,920 --> 02:37:04,800 Speaker 4: SCM conversation. 3262 02:37:05,560 --> 02:37:08,240 Speaker 3: Since I would say summer twenty twenty two, the Progressives 3263 02:37:08,280 --> 02:37:11,000 Speaker 3: have faulted Biden Harris and never acknowledged any of the 3264 02:37:11,040 --> 02:37:13,320 Speaker 3: other factors that led to word we are, including themselves, 3265 02:37:13,560 --> 02:37:14,360 Speaker 3: their loved ones, etc. 3266 02:37:14,600 --> 02:37:15,400 Speaker 4: People are the factor. 3267 02:37:15,440 --> 02:37:18,880 Speaker 3: Basically, it's adopting healthy behaviors and minimizing risky behaviors was 3268 02:37:18,959 --> 02:37:20,119 Speaker 3: so easy across the board. 3269 02:37:20,200 --> 02:37:21,560 Speaker 4: So much in this world will be different. 3270 02:37:22,040 --> 02:37:26,000 Speaker 3: But not only are they sounding a constant alarm, which 3271 02:37:26,080 --> 02:37:29,000 Speaker 3: yesterdata now says we should be extra mindful they are 3272 02:37:29,000 --> 02:37:32,200 Speaker 3: ascribing malicious intent to Biden and Harris and no one else, 3273 02:37:32,320 --> 02:37:34,119 Speaker 3: mixing up, mixing it all. 3274 02:37:34,120 --> 02:37:35,320 Speaker 4: Up with the gods of conflict. 3275 02:37:35,760 --> 02:37:37,760 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you've seen this, even from so 3276 02:37:37,879 --> 02:37:41,400 Speaker 3: called reasonable people calling president genocide Joe, what the ever 3277 02:37:41,480 --> 02:37:44,760 Speaker 3: loving fuck? Honestly online feels like very twenty fifteen, twenty 3278 02:37:44,800 --> 02:37:48,199 Speaker 3: sixteenish again and seeing black brown and others far forward 3279 02:37:48,280 --> 02:37:49,160 Speaker 3: again is upsetting. 3280 02:37:50,160 --> 02:37:51,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I've seen it. 3281 02:37:51,840 --> 02:37:54,320 Speaker 3: I just like I said, I'm not participating in any 3282 02:37:54,360 --> 02:37:56,000 Speaker 3: of these back and forth on social media. 3283 02:37:57,560 --> 02:37:59,680 Speaker 4: I hear people, I've listened to people. 3284 02:38:00,000 --> 02:38:03,360 Speaker 3: I'd listen to a lot of long form, brilliant thinkers 3285 02:38:03,400 --> 02:38:07,920 Speaker 3: about stuff. But a lot of this stuff is also 3286 02:38:07,959 --> 02:38:11,000 Speaker 3: happened in the environment where we know Elon Musk as 3287 02:38:11,200 --> 02:38:15,720 Speaker 3: like and Zuckerberg too, those guys have actually started taking 3288 02:38:15,800 --> 02:38:19,040 Speaker 3: money again from Republicans that are saying that to make 3289 02:38:19,120 --> 02:38:21,160 Speaker 3: ads to say the election was stolen. So, like, we 3290 02:38:21,280 --> 02:38:23,680 Speaker 3: know what's happening in an environment that is not a 3291 02:38:24,840 --> 02:38:30,040 Speaker 3: healthy environment with vigorous fact checking and censorship on some 3292 02:38:30,160 --> 02:38:33,320 Speaker 3: of the more extreme hate language and stuff. So that's 3293 02:38:33,400 --> 02:38:36,280 Speaker 3: not a recipe to me for let's engage. And I 3294 02:38:36,360 --> 02:38:38,240 Speaker 3: think a lot of people are being taken in by 3295 02:38:38,320 --> 02:38:41,960 Speaker 3: this stuff because it's easy to slogan there, it's easy 3296 02:38:42,040 --> 02:38:45,720 Speaker 3: to tweet and retweet, and you don't need to have 3297 02:38:45,959 --> 02:38:48,520 Speaker 3: reason or context. Those things get in the way of 3298 02:38:48,600 --> 02:38:51,200 Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty characters or one hundred and forty characters. 3299 02:38:51,879 --> 02:38:55,120 Speaker 3: So let me just post this meme and just move 3300 02:38:55,200 --> 02:38:57,120 Speaker 3: on with my day, and everyone will think I'm a 3301 02:38:57,200 --> 02:38:59,960 Speaker 3: good person and I don't actually have to think about 3302 02:39:00,200 --> 02:39:01,840 Speaker 3: or come up with a solution for this problem. 3303 02:39:02,040 --> 02:39:02,920 Speaker 4: And uh, that's it. 3304 02:39:03,080 --> 02:39:06,280 Speaker 3: And those people will always there'll always be some people 3305 02:39:06,440 --> 02:39:09,800 Speaker 3: like that, and engaging them will never change their mind. 3306 02:39:10,040 --> 02:39:12,560 Speaker 3: But what I think people fail to realize is my 3307 02:39:12,680 --> 02:39:15,879 Speaker 3: mind is not changing either, So we're just at an impasse. 3308 02:39:17,200 --> 02:39:19,120 Speaker 3: I am, however, listening to you and Karen's for a reason, 3309 02:39:19,160 --> 02:39:20,920 Speaker 3: where a lot of people aren't on social media, many 3310 02:39:20,959 --> 02:39:24,199 Speaker 3: aren't arguing like before and knowing the algorithms pushing things 3311 02:39:24,240 --> 02:39:27,400 Speaker 3: that may not be true in real life. Yeah, we'll see, man, 3312 02:39:27,600 --> 02:39:29,320 Speaker 3: that's like, that's how I feel about a lot of 3313 02:39:29,320 --> 02:39:31,840 Speaker 3: this stuff. I'm not gonna run around like a chicken 3314 02:39:31,879 --> 02:39:34,560 Speaker 3: with my head cut off because how many fucking elections 3315 02:39:34,600 --> 02:39:36,800 Speaker 3: do I have to go through where the opposite of 3316 02:39:36,879 --> 02:39:39,760 Speaker 3: what social media told me happened. Uh, and that that 3317 02:39:39,959 --> 02:39:43,280 Speaker 3: counts even for the like the last election where they 3318 02:39:43,560 --> 02:39:46,080 Speaker 3: were like, uh, well you know Democrats is gonna be 3319 02:39:46,080 --> 02:39:47,920 Speaker 3: a blood bath. It's gonna be a red wave, and 3320 02:39:47,959 --> 02:39:50,640 Speaker 3: it was a fucking blue wave and everyone just act like, hum, 3321 02:39:50,720 --> 02:39:53,880 Speaker 3: what an interesting phenomenon. Oh well, back to back to 3322 02:39:54,000 --> 02:39:58,400 Speaker 3: panic again, back to panic and AnyWho are you looking 3323 02:39:58,640 --> 02:40:00,840 Speaker 3: to get trying to get back into redo twenty twenty four. 3324 02:40:01,160 --> 02:40:03,000 Speaker 3: I'm putting on my goal list if you start doing 3325 02:40:03,040 --> 02:40:05,200 Speaker 3: your reading rainbow segment again, I'll be all ears take 3326 02:40:05,240 --> 02:40:09,040 Speaker 3: care of And they say, please, celest I don't know 3327 02:40:09,160 --> 02:40:11,760 Speaker 3: that I'm making a concerted effort to get back into reading. 3328 02:40:11,879 --> 02:40:15,720 Speaker 3: That hasn't been like a New Year's resolution for me, really, 3329 02:40:15,959 --> 02:40:17,440 Speaker 3: but I don't think about it. 3330 02:40:18,160 --> 02:40:20,160 Speaker 4: I've been reading. I was reading a lot of comic books. 3331 02:40:20,600 --> 02:40:20,800 Speaker 2: Shit. 3332 02:40:20,879 --> 02:40:22,320 Speaker 3: That don't really make sense to come on here and 3333 02:40:22,360 --> 02:40:26,840 Speaker 3: talk about, Yeah, but I'm reading a lot of comic 3334 02:40:26,879 --> 02:40:27,560 Speaker 3: books and stuff. 3335 02:40:27,600 --> 02:40:29,440 Speaker 4: But yeah, I'll still read. 3336 02:40:30,840 --> 02:40:34,880 Speaker 3: This one is just we got a gift but we 3337 02:40:35,200 --> 02:40:38,360 Speaker 3: haven't gone to pick it up yet, so I guess 3338 02:40:38,400 --> 02:40:40,400 Speaker 3: we gotta go to pick it up from the post 3339 02:40:40,440 --> 02:40:41,080 Speaker 3: office or whatever. 3340 02:40:42,000 --> 02:40:43,360 Speaker 4: But do you want to know what it is? 3341 02:40:44,000 --> 02:40:44,840 Speaker 2: I guess so it is. 3342 02:40:45,560 --> 02:40:55,080 Speaker 4: It's for my girl, Pilani. And it is a mini 3343 02:40:55,160 --> 02:40:57,240 Speaker 4: fridge yay. 3344 02:40:59,120 --> 02:41:02,440 Speaker 3: And it looks like it's probably something that Care put 3345 02:41:02,520 --> 02:41:06,640 Speaker 3: on our wish list, which says you can use it 3346 02:41:06,720 --> 02:41:10,800 Speaker 3: for like drinks and skincare. Fridge for the bedroom, yes, 3347 02:41:11,240 --> 02:41:13,920 Speaker 3: electric thermore, electric cooler and all this stuff. 3348 02:41:14,040 --> 02:41:17,080 Speaker 1: So hey to keep the keep like you know how 3349 02:41:17,080 --> 02:41:20,879 Speaker 1: you have creams and stuff to keep them more cooler. 3350 02:41:21,240 --> 02:41:22,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's fine. 3351 02:41:22,360 --> 02:41:22,480 Speaker 8: Hey. 3352 02:41:22,720 --> 02:41:23,000 Speaker 9: Thanks. 3353 02:41:23,120 --> 02:41:26,160 Speaker 3: So she also left a note that says thank you 3354 02:41:26,280 --> 02:41:29,600 Speaker 3: for all the last I always refer folks who work 3355 02:41:29,720 --> 02:41:34,640 Speaker 3: INDI diversity Inclusion, equity inclusion to your podcast, especially white folks, 3356 02:41:34,680 --> 02:41:36,760 Speaker 3: wishing you do a very safe and healthy twin twenty 3357 02:41:36,840 --> 02:41:40,080 Speaker 3: four a lot. You know, man, that's so funny because 3358 02:41:40,360 --> 02:41:43,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I appreciate it, We appreciate our listen you, 3359 02:41:43,400 --> 02:41:46,240 Speaker 3: but man, we don't be thinking about them when we 3360 02:41:46,320 --> 02:41:47,080 Speaker 3: make these shows. 3361 02:41:48,000 --> 02:41:50,560 Speaker 2: Maybe be the furthest thing from my mind. I'm not 3362 02:41:50,640 --> 02:41:51,280 Speaker 2: even gonna lie. 3363 02:41:51,959 --> 02:41:54,280 Speaker 4: Maybe that's the Maybe that's the best way to learn. 3364 02:41:54,440 --> 02:41:56,840 Speaker 3: No, maybe that's the best way to learn the shows 3365 02:41:56,879 --> 02:41:59,000 Speaker 3: that be doing it for pay maybe they y'all need 3366 02:41:59,080 --> 02:42:01,160 Speaker 3: to listen to some people that like, man, this is 3367 02:42:01,200 --> 02:42:03,920 Speaker 3: how we really feel. Fuck with y'all, think this ain't 3368 02:42:03,959 --> 02:42:04,680 Speaker 3: about y'all. 3369 02:42:04,600 --> 02:42:07,640 Speaker 1: Right now, not even taking your feelings into consideration at 3370 02:42:07,680 --> 02:42:08,520 Speaker 1: this point in time. 3371 02:42:09,000 --> 02:42:11,520 Speaker 3: Oh man, John right saying Happy New Year, ride and 3372 02:42:11,560 --> 02:42:13,720 Speaker 3: carrying over the holiday break. I turned fifty, so now 3373 02:42:13,840 --> 02:42:17,960 Speaker 3: old enough for y'all to hate me. You across that 3374 02:42:18,080 --> 02:42:19,879 Speaker 3: age we travel. 3375 02:42:19,680 --> 02:42:21,440 Speaker 4: Stop using Gibson twenty twenty four. 3376 02:42:21,480 --> 02:42:24,760 Speaker 2: Old man. That was an argument on Twitter. I was like, 3377 02:42:24,840 --> 02:42:25,800 Speaker 2: if y'all don't get out. 3378 02:42:25,680 --> 02:42:27,960 Speaker 4: Of here, right, I guess I'm old. I decided to 3379 02:42:28,040 --> 02:42:30,279 Speaker 4: be old. Fuck it, I am old somebody. 3380 02:42:30,400 --> 02:42:30,520 Speaker 6: Uh. 3381 02:42:31,600 --> 02:42:32,160 Speaker 4: I was looking. 3382 02:42:32,280 --> 02:42:38,840 Speaker 3: I saw some shit about this Stanley Cup, and and 3383 02:42:39,600 --> 02:42:42,480 Speaker 3: I'm honest to God that I was like, it's not 3384 02:42:42,720 --> 02:42:47,080 Speaker 3: the hockey Stanley Cup. Okay, it's not okay. And then 3385 02:42:47,160 --> 02:42:49,800 Speaker 3: I chose, for the first time in a long time, 3386 02:42:49,920 --> 02:42:51,680 Speaker 3: I chose to not know. 3387 02:42:52,840 --> 02:42:53,800 Speaker 4: Welcome to the club. 3388 02:42:54,560 --> 02:42:54,840 Speaker 2: Child. 3389 02:42:54,959 --> 02:42:56,440 Speaker 6: It is a friend who I know. 3390 02:42:56,520 --> 02:42:58,480 Speaker 4: You love to not know, Yes, Chaw, that. 3391 02:42:58,600 --> 02:43:02,560 Speaker 1: Is my motherfucking jam liked what you're talking about. 3392 02:43:02,640 --> 02:43:04,480 Speaker 4: Everybody had a take, Everybody had a joke. 3393 02:43:04,560 --> 02:43:07,840 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't care it's a free ind feeling. 3394 02:43:07,920 --> 02:43:09,680 Speaker 2: It ain't always a good thing, but it's a free 3395 02:43:09,720 --> 02:43:10,120 Speaker 2: end feeling. 3396 02:43:10,120 --> 02:43:11,120 Speaker 6: It be like, I don't give a fuck. 3397 02:43:11,240 --> 02:43:14,040 Speaker 4: I know that's your your jam, so I'll jam with 3398 02:43:14,160 --> 02:43:14,560 Speaker 4: you today. 3399 02:43:14,680 --> 02:43:14,920 Speaker 2: Thank you. 3400 02:43:15,520 --> 02:43:17,240 Speaker 3: We traveled and man, let me tell you, people don't 3401 02:43:17,240 --> 02:43:19,080 Speaker 3: give a fuck about COVID anymore. On our flight we 3402 02:43:19,160 --> 02:43:21,680 Speaker 3: were the only couple wearing masks. Then when we got home, 3403 02:43:21,760 --> 02:43:24,800 Speaker 3: surprised Fries we both tested positive. We're both fully vaxx 3404 02:43:24,840 --> 02:43:27,040 Speaker 3: and boosted, and being over fifty does have its purpose. 3405 02:43:27,040 --> 02:43:29,440 Speaker 3: It allowed both of us to get packs Loavid, which 3406 02:43:29,480 --> 02:43:32,400 Speaker 3: helped moderate the symptoms significantly, but taste it like shit. 3407 02:43:32,760 --> 02:43:35,640 Speaker 3: But before pax Loavid kicked in, this thing was still 3408 02:43:35,720 --> 02:43:38,959 Speaker 3: pretty brutal. Even with the full vaccination body aggs, headaches, 3409 02:43:39,040 --> 02:43:41,480 Speaker 3: crazy sore throat, nice sweats, et cetera. It was the 3410 02:43:41,560 --> 02:43:43,720 Speaker 3: worse I felt since Swin flew back in two thousand 3411 02:43:43,720 --> 02:43:45,840 Speaker 3: and eight. All of which is to say, if anyone 3412 02:43:45,879 --> 02:43:47,960 Speaker 3: out there gets it, I definitely recommend you get on 3413 02:43:48,040 --> 02:43:49,240 Speaker 3: that pax load if they can't. 3414 02:43:49,920 --> 02:43:51,320 Speaker 4: I love the turn point of Sewer. 3415 02:43:51,480 --> 02:43:54,200 Speaker 3: I haven't gotten an official certification yet, but I like 3416 02:43:54,320 --> 02:43:57,560 Speaker 3: to think quality for a lifetime achievement or honorary or. 3417 02:43:57,600 --> 02:43:59,840 Speaker 3: I qualified for a lifetime achievement an honorary degree. 3418 02:44:00,240 --> 02:44:00,440 Speaker 4: Rod. 3419 02:44:00,480 --> 02:44:02,680 Speaker 3: You mentioned a porn podcast on three g O with 3420 02:44:02,760 --> 02:44:04,520 Speaker 3: black hosts that you do love. Do you happen to 3421 02:44:04,600 --> 02:44:07,360 Speaker 3: know the name of it? Oh, it's called the Hotspot Lounge, 3422 02:44:08,800 --> 02:44:12,000 Speaker 3: and I love it in that it is ridiculous, not 3423 02:44:12,160 --> 02:44:14,480 Speaker 3: any like, don't go listening to it because you like, 3424 02:44:14,600 --> 02:44:18,240 Speaker 3: these people take sex work seriously and it's and they're 3425 02:44:18,360 --> 02:44:19,800 Speaker 3: very positive liberal people. 3426 02:44:20,200 --> 02:44:22,640 Speaker 4: Now it's a lot of like, so, what what's it 3427 02:44:22,800 --> 02:44:24,360 Speaker 4: like having a big old ass, you know? And I'm 3428 02:44:24,440 --> 02:44:28,640 Speaker 4: just like, oh my god, you know, so ask question, 3429 02:44:28,680 --> 02:44:30,760 Speaker 4: are you more of a like you know, like fuck 3430 02:44:30,879 --> 02:44:33,120 Speaker 4: me like poort on fucking you like the you know, 3431 02:44:33,280 --> 02:44:35,640 Speaker 4: like you like when people like make love. It's very 3432 02:44:35,720 --> 02:44:36,240 Speaker 4: simple shit. 3433 02:44:36,320 --> 02:44:39,560 Speaker 3: But I was just I was more intrigued by the 3434 02:44:39,680 --> 02:44:44,520 Speaker 3: guests because, uh, Pornactree is very racial, racially segregated, and 3435 02:44:45,200 --> 02:44:48,440 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff at the top is just so white. 3436 02:44:48,720 --> 02:44:52,160 Speaker 4: It's about it's foreign by white people, right sir. And 3437 02:44:52,240 --> 02:44:54,360 Speaker 4: it just is what it is. This isn't It is 3438 02:44:54,440 --> 02:44:59,160 Speaker 4: what it is. But there's like a lot of porn 3439 02:44:59,200 --> 02:45:01,279 Speaker 4: stars that I like that aren't. 3440 02:45:01,160 --> 02:45:05,440 Speaker 3: Nearly as famous as like your mainstream like the Angela 3441 02:45:05,480 --> 02:45:08,480 Speaker 3: White or somebody that is like super huge, but they 3442 02:45:08,640 --> 02:45:12,080 Speaker 3: just kind of look like the same, Like, Okay, this 3443 02:45:12,240 --> 02:45:14,560 Speaker 3: is the new version of the old version of the 3444 02:45:14,600 --> 02:45:15,359 Speaker 3: white woman. 3445 02:45:15,200 --> 02:45:17,360 Speaker 4: That people are allowed to find attractive. 3446 02:45:18,840 --> 02:45:20,160 Speaker 3: So, like, one of the things I like about the 3447 02:45:20,200 --> 02:45:22,360 Speaker 3: high spot line is that they would talk to porn starts. Well, 3448 02:45:22,360 --> 02:45:24,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, I do know Queen Roague, you know, 3449 02:45:25,360 --> 02:45:29,520 Speaker 3: like like, oh, okay, somebody finally, oh fucking talking to her. 3450 02:45:29,680 --> 02:45:32,800 Speaker 4: Let's see what she talking about. But yeah, so that's 3451 02:45:32,920 --> 02:45:36,680 Speaker 4: that's what it reminds you of. He says, that sounds cool. 3452 02:45:36,720 --> 02:45:39,720 Speaker 3: I recently discovered a decent podcast called Girls Own Porn 3453 02:45:40,080 --> 02:45:41,000 Speaker 3: that's surprisingly good. 3454 02:45:41,040 --> 02:45:43,280 Speaker 4: It's a couple of white girls, actually Italian to my people. 3455 02:45:43,360 --> 02:45:45,560 Speaker 3: But they both seem like they've done a lot of 3456 02:45:45,600 --> 02:45:48,160 Speaker 3: work in feminism and even anti racism, so they're always 3457 02:45:48,200 --> 02:45:50,720 Speaker 3: quick to point out the racism, misogynistic trumps and porn 3458 02:45:51,040 --> 02:45:53,480 Speaker 3: and even connected to history. They also pick one search 3459 02:45:53,600 --> 02:45:56,240 Speaker 3: term like spit ros or milk or whatever, and they 3460 02:45:56,320 --> 02:45:59,160 Speaker 3: do a deep dive into the history of the term 3461 02:45:59,680 --> 02:46:01,120 Speaker 3: and it's representation in porn. 3462 02:46:01,480 --> 02:46:03,160 Speaker 4: Anyway, it's fun and very important. 3463 02:46:03,680 --> 02:46:06,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds like a much better podcast when it 3464 02:46:06,840 --> 02:46:09,560 Speaker 3: comes to like, you know, the right sensibilities and shit. 3465 02:46:09,920 --> 02:46:12,280 Speaker 3: But that's not what I'm in it for. I don't 3466 02:46:12,320 --> 02:46:14,280 Speaker 3: care if they be wrong. So I'm listening to the 3467 02:46:14,320 --> 02:46:16,560 Speaker 3: O Spot because I'm just like, I know they gonna 3468 02:46:16,560 --> 02:46:21,520 Speaker 3: say some wild shit to live Pray. Yeah it was 3469 02:46:22,080 --> 02:46:25,600 Speaker 3: Oh man, that podcast is so funny. I love that 3470 02:46:25,760 --> 02:46:28,800 Speaker 3: New York is trying to pass the law to force 3471 02:46:28,920 --> 02:46:32,000 Speaker 3: Chick fil A to stay open at rest stops on Sundays. 3472 02:46:32,000 --> 02:46:34,800 Speaker 3: There's nothing worse than driving on a holiday or weekend 3473 02:46:34,879 --> 02:46:38,160 Speaker 3: for hours on a freeway or toll bro will limited options, 3474 02:46:38,240 --> 02:46:40,720 Speaker 3: only to have everything be closed. This happened to us 3475 02:46:40,800 --> 02:46:45,800 Speaker 3: on Christmas Day, driving from Towels to Albuquerque and having 3476 02:46:46,000 --> 02:46:48,560 Speaker 3: no place to get anything to eat. But I'm guessing 3477 02:46:48,640 --> 02:46:52,240 Speaker 3: that if they do pass the law, our crystal Fastest 3478 02:46:52,720 --> 02:46:53,760 Speaker 3: Supreme Court will. 3479 02:46:53,680 --> 02:46:57,520 Speaker 4: Strike it down with some hobby lobby freedom of religious bullshit. Yeah, 3480 02:46:57,520 --> 02:46:57,920 Speaker 4: I'm sure. 3481 02:46:59,280 --> 02:47:01,160 Speaker 3: When I heard this worry about the movie poster, all 3482 02:47:01,160 --> 02:47:03,280 Speaker 3: I could think of was Michael Rappaport responding, I'm not 3483 02:47:03,440 --> 02:47:07,000 Speaker 3: like the rest of you negroes, right, absolutely, I want 3484 02:47:07,040 --> 02:47:07,960 Speaker 3: to hear it in his voice. 3485 02:47:09,040 --> 02:47:10,959 Speaker 4: I really enjoyed the episode of Jail COVID. 3486 02:47:11,080 --> 02:47:13,200 Speaker 3: As always, it seems to me there was a pretty 3487 02:47:13,240 --> 02:47:15,880 Speaker 3: obvious through line between the discussion of MAGA voters and 3488 02:47:15,959 --> 02:47:18,120 Speaker 3: a restorative justice crowd and Ray Rice as you know 3489 02:47:18,200 --> 02:47:21,000 Speaker 3: that both groups are singingarly, impervious to acknowledging reality and 3490 02:47:21,080 --> 02:47:24,120 Speaker 3: changing their views accordingly, they both operate primarily based on 3491 02:47:24,160 --> 02:47:26,520 Speaker 3: their own feelings. All evidence change and growth be damn, 3492 02:47:26,920 --> 02:47:29,640 Speaker 3: it really is all just vibes, cheers John. 3493 02:47:29,720 --> 02:47:30,240 Speaker 4: Thanks John. 3494 02:47:31,440 --> 02:47:33,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that stuff always sticks out to me. I know 3495 02:47:33,640 --> 02:47:38,760 Speaker 3: it's probably some type of I don't know, like I 3496 02:47:38,840 --> 02:47:42,480 Speaker 3: forget what it's called, but it's vigilance thing that that 3497 02:47:42,920 --> 02:47:47,120 Speaker 3: different people have where you just see hypocrisy or you 3498 02:47:47,160 --> 02:47:49,200 Speaker 3: see certain things that don't connect, and it's like, what 3499 02:47:49,360 --> 02:47:53,800 Speaker 3: the fuck. I definitely got that whatever that is. So 3500 02:47:53,920 --> 02:47:56,120 Speaker 3: I just always end up noticing, like, wait a minute, 3501 02:47:56,160 --> 02:47:57,640 Speaker 3: but if you say this, how the fuck you. 3502 02:47:57,720 --> 02:47:58,520 Speaker 4: Gonna live this out? 3503 02:47:58,560 --> 02:48:01,480 Speaker 3: And their ideals and I know the answers that people 3504 02:48:01,520 --> 02:48:03,560 Speaker 3: are human and we fall short and we say stuff 3505 02:48:03,640 --> 02:48:04,680 Speaker 3: and don't really mean it. 3506 02:48:04,800 --> 02:48:07,279 Speaker 4: But I don't know, it could be a little frustrated, 3507 02:48:07,800 --> 02:48:09,480 Speaker 4: all right, y'all, that's it. Thanks for listening. 3508 02:48:09,640 --> 02:48:14,400 Speaker 3: We'll be back throughout the week. We appreciate y'all. Hope 3509 02:48:14,400 --> 02:48:18,160 Speaker 3: you enjoyed this and thank you for leaving feedback. Pilani, 3510 02:48:18,240 --> 02:48:21,480 Speaker 3: thank you for the for the refrigerator. Care's gonna put 3511 02:48:22,040 --> 02:48:24,640 Speaker 3: all her beauty stuff in it. I'm gonna put some 3512 02:48:24,840 --> 02:48:25,600 Speaker 3: six packs of. 3513 02:48:25,680 --> 02:48:26,320 Speaker 6: Beer in there. 3514 02:48:28,200 --> 02:48:29,840 Speaker 4: All right, y'all, talk to you later till then. I 3515 02:48:29,920 --> 02:48:30,520 Speaker 4: love you, I love you.