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Speaker 1: twenty four as we welcome you to the Friday edition

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Speaker 1: of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast presented by PEPSI. My name

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Speaker 1: is Gabe Henderson, alongside Vikings dot com Tatum Everett and

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Speaker 1: producer Eric Davidson, and I am looking forward to tonight's

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Speaker 1: show as we will have Mike Smith, Vikings outside linebackers coach,

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Speaker 1: who would join us to discuss his thoughts heading into

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Speaker 1: fun show. Yeah, he is quite a character. He's a

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Speaker 1: be able to ask him a lot about this bromance

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Speaker 1: between Daniel Hunter and Zadarius Smith and then also his

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Speaker 1: ties back to Green Bay and how that will help

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Speaker 1: I feel like you already do. Know that does Darius

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Speaker 1: Smith played for the Green Bay Packers of the past

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Speaker 1: few years and Mike Smith was his coach there. Both

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Speaker 1: of those guys here in Minnesota and they're playing their

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Speaker 1: former team that were coming Sunday, and it should be

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Speaker 1: a fun show, to say the least for Minnesota Vikings fans,

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Speaker 1: but for our first time listeners. This season, we will

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Speaker 1: record two editions of this podcast, one that we will

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Speaker 1: record on Mondays which will recap the Vikings previous game,

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Speaker 1: and then on Fridays, including today, of course, we would

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Speaker 1: record another episode previewing the upcoming matchup that airs on

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Speaker 1: Vikings dot com and right here on Cafe n You

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Speaker 1: have no shortage of Vikings content this year, and you

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Speaker 1: will have no shortage of Tatum, Everett and I who

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Speaker 1: will be providing you updates until your face turns purple.

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Speaker 1: That might be convenient for Sunday's game, right, maybe we

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Speaker 1: should just keep talking, keep talking to the space stars purk. Well,

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Speaker 1: But one thing I want to talk to you about

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Speaker 1: And you kind of get tired of asking yourself that question.

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Speaker 1: look like, and it seems like it's a positive, uplifting,

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Speaker 1: My name is Gabe Henderson, alongside Vikings dot com s

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of coaches in this league have egos.

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Speaker 1: I want to break people's will when we rush. That's

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Speaker 1: We're gonna wear your ass. Out and then we'll start

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Speaker 1: working the edges and stuff like that. But um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've never been a guy about sacks and care about sacks.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the most overrated thing in this league

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Speaker 1: all that stuff's important, and so you know that's part

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit of text came in a little

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Speaker 1: bit of the lubbic Mike, appreciate your tom today. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing us go one to know on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: That's all that matters, is going to want to know

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Speaker 1: each weekend just so happens to be your former team

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Speaker 1: to Green Bay Packers. So looking forward to it, I know,

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Speaker 1: really fired up about it. I don't know who's more

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Speaker 1: excited me or Z, but we're excited to play them.

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Speaker 1: There a good football team and so were we, and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really good matchup. That's Vikings Outside

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Speaker 1: Linebackers coach Mike Smith. Always a pleasure of talking to

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Speaker 1: Vikings Outside Linebackers coach Mike Smith right here on the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings podcast, and always a pleasure having Tatum Everett

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Speaker 1: alongside with me each week, every single Friday, delivering you

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Speaker 1: this phenomenal podcast all season long. Vikings fans, thank you

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Speaker 1: for tuning in to another edition of the Minnesota Vikings podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Let's go get a win. This will coming Sunday in

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Speaker 1: Border Battle number one, twenty four