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Speaker 1: And we are underway. What is up? Everybody?

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Speaker 3: And welcome to the Action Network NFL Player Projections podcast

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Speaker 3: for Week six, presented by Fan Duel. I am your

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Speaker 3: host Chris Raybond, joined as always by one of the

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Speaker 3: top fantacy football rankers and odds makers in the game,

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Speaker 3: the odds maker Sean Kerner Shahan.

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Speaker 1: What is going on?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Had a pretty good week five, ended up

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Speaker 2: winning a couple of units, even though it seemed like

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Speaker 2: a frustrating week, ended up on top, did good in DFS,

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Speaker 2: and I saw that our lineups cash this week, so

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Speaker 2: that's always nice to see that we didn't have any

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Speaker 2: injuries or anything mess them up. But yeah, overall a

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Speaker 2: good week. Looking forward to week six and we finally

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Speaker 2: get bye weeks, and I think bye weeks kind of

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Speaker 2: help us spend a little bit more time on each matchup,

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Speaker 2: so I always love him by week except but how

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Speaker 2: was your? Week? Five?

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Speaker 1: Came out like a calfe a unit on top.

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Speaker 3: Thank I killed, I killed in primetime, but I had

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Speaker 3: my I think I was my first losing Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I went like four and five or four and six

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Speaker 3: But the Raiders came through for us, shouting out, hell, yeah,

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Speaker 3: got out to your luck rankings. I gave them a

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Speaker 3: shout in my right up. But it played out exactly

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Speaker 3: how we kind of, you know, thought it would with

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Speaker 3: you know, the Raiders finally got some luck go there,

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Speaker 3: even though it seems like they didn't.

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Speaker 1: If you're a Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Fan, Yeah, when you hit a fifty eight yard touchdown

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Speaker 3: on fourth and one, I consider that pretty lucky. And

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Speaker 3: then and then the Chiefs going for two and missing

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Speaker 3: it also helpful, even though it didn't end up mattering.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it was. It was a pretty solid week,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: Taysom Hill Taysom Hill ball, I know we both liked

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Speaker 3: him this week.

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Speaker 1: So let's get to it.

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Speaker 3: For week six and we have We're gonna run through

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Speaker 3: our top five at each skill position. We'll discuss the

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Speaker 3: players were high and low on in our projections and

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Speaker 3: we'll throw out a prop for each position as well.

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Speaker 3: Let's started up at quarterback week six. Who are your

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Speaker 3: top five?

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Speaker 2: So I have Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, Kyler

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Speaker 2: Murray in the top five and Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: Yep, exact same one for me, and I was I

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Speaker 3: was interested to see if you were gonna have I

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Speaker 3: know a lot of people have Mahomes like third or

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Speaker 3: And I think that's just because you know, number one

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Speaker 3: You know, I have his touchdown projection I think around two,

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Speaker 3: which is high for a quarterback, but uh, you know

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Speaker 1: A little lower on him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I saw the Bills are up to minus

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's the Gave Davis effect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a year early on that game. Yeah, a plus

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Speaker 1: I mean is that It's kind of like a Chiefs

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Speaker 1: The totals I think up to fifty four. So for fantasy,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, uh who you high on? I'm actually high

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Speaker 2: on Justin Fields this week. I have him as my qubist. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: You know, this is what happens when you don't put

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Speaker 2: so he's my QB sixteen. Now it looks like the

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Speaker 2: after being more of a QB two to three fringe

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Speaker 3: I mean, he said it very well because I had to.

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Speaker 3: I literally have them also at QB sixteen and I

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Speaker 1: He's actually down a QB.

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Speaker 3: Twenty one in consensus as we record this on Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, he had his best game of the week

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Speaker 3: good when you're getting a real game. All Right, I'm

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Speaker 3: I got him to be nineteen. He's a consensus QB

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Speaker 3: twelve for some reason. Listen, love Trevor, but I want

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Speaker 3: I would always love to watch the lowest scoring games first.

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Speaker 3: My rewatch's just because they came on red zone the least,

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Speaker 1: But first of all, Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much you got to see him,

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Speaker 3: I'm seeing it. Out of the accuracy, he's averaging just

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Speaker 3: two hundred and forty six passing yards and twelve rushing

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Speaker 3: Obviously, they baited Russell Wilson into a horrible game. A

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm right there with you with Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: But he's my QB fifteen. Obviously, QB twelve is a

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Speaker 2: he had a pretty rough outing last week against the Texans,

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Speaker 2: eventually I think he will be a QB one in fantasy.

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Speaker 2: But just right now we got to back off a bit.

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Speaker 2: It was encouraging to see him run a bit more.

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Speaker 2: Although this isn't too bad of a matchup. You know,

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Speaker 2: so he could come through, but I'm not ranking him

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Coast defense like they are, they're

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Speaker 3: just a pretty good defense. I think, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: tougher to pass the ball. So yeah, Lawrence, it's just

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Speaker 3: like that's like atic down grade. All right, I I'm

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Speaker 3: up for the quarterback prop. Let's go with you gotta

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Speaker 3: go with Russell Wilson here, he's uh, he's consensus.

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Speaker 1: He's consensus QB thirteen.

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Speaker 3: So some people, it seems, may still have to consider

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Speaker 3: starting him this week's we're gonna go with his passing.

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Speaker 1: Yards, bump shoulder and all.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's just an excuse who knows, but uh, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna go with two thirty seven and a half.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, hell, I'm at two forty. I don't like it,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, I don't really know what's up the shoulder. Uh,

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Speaker 2: so let's just go at the under. But I don't

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Speaker 2: Right now, I'm just leaning under. It's a strained lat

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Speaker 2: out exactly what's going on there. But you know, ego, yeah,

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Speaker 2: straight exactly, That's what I'm thinking. But something's something's definitely

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Speaker 1: He fell off the horse. He's off the horse.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, here we go. Okay, number one, Ramadre Stevenson.

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Speaker 2: But you know, Remandre should take over all that early

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Speaker 3: Mean there's a real possibility that he gets like one

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Speaker 2: Still scare me having Stevenson as everyone you know, Belichie

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding him who season, But yeah, this is.

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Speaker 2: The week to invest in him because you know, he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm you know, I think he's a he's interesting guy.

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Speaker 3: Rahie Moster. I have him RB sixteen. He's RB twenty

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Speaker 3: He looks like Gasking got one. He must have gotten

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Speaker 3: Then he's forty three at the moment, six six carries

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's always been a true handcuff where you

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00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 2: can't play him in Delpha. Cook is healthy obviously, but

435
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 2: when Cook is out, he's like a top five running back.

436
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 2: But if Madison were to ever carve out a role,

437
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 2: we're you know, he's inside our top thirty five, let's say,

438
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 2: and he's you know, kind of a sneaky flex play,

439
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,679
Speaker 2: then he would shoot up. Like then I would really

440
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 2: you know, value him. But for now, he's still on

441
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 2: my top forty. But that's sort of the threshold when

442
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: it comes to my RB upside rankings. Is the guy

443
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 2: like him that has a ton of upside. If he

444
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 2: could ever sneak into the flex discussion, it makes him

445
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 2: even more valuable. Yeah, but we're not there yet obviously.

446
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see what he does this week.

447
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 3: And like you said, it's it is that Miami heat,

448
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 3: So maybe he gets a few more snaps than he's

449
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 3: even been getting. I am low on James Robinson, which

450
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 3: makes sense because I'm high on Etn. This is obviously,

451
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 3: this is why I think the matchup hurts more because

452
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 3: he's a more traditional between the tackles runner. But his

453
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 3: snap's the last four games sixty three percent, fifty eight percent,

454
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 3: forty seven percent and bottoming out of forty percent last game.

455
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 1: His touches have gone twenty.

456
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 3: Five twenty eight twelve, so from averaging over twenty touches

457
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 3: to averaging about ten over the last two weeks, Indianapolis

458
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 3: allowing the fourth through his rushing yards per game the

459
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 3: third lowest yard per carry average at three point four

460
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 3: and as as mentioned, Etn is just looking like the

461
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 3: more explosive player right now. So low on Robinson at

462
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 3: RB twenty nine. The consensus is still at RB twenty

463
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 3: and Naji Harris. I mean, it's it's just going downhill.

464
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 3: Another tough matchup against Tampa Bay. His snaps the last

465
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 3: three games have gone eighty percent seventy nine percent. And

466
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 3: I know it was a blowout last week, but Mike

467
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 3: Tomlin said he was quoted as saying we've been playing

468
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 3: Jalen Warren Moore and will continue to do so. That's

469
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 3: via a Duali on Twitter, one of the Steelers beat reporters.

470
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 3: So I don't think we should have much confidence in

471
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 3: Najie Harris right now. He's outside of my top twenty

472
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: forties RB twenty five. The consensus still has him inside

473
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 3: the top twenty at RB nineteen, So I just don't

474
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 3: see it for him this week.

475
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Just Harris is brutal because kind of the only

476
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 2: thing we banked on with him was volume, and with

477
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: Warren emerging, we can't even bank on that anymore. So

478
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: I wonder what you can get in the trade market

479
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: for him. I'm sure he's still valuable, valued as sort

480
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: of a mid range RB two, So if I have him,

481
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm trying to sell, well you can.

482
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: Oh, so you think he's only going downhill from here?

483
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, unfortunately, I just don't say any upside with

484
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: him going forward because the offensive line stinks and Warren

485
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: has looked legitimately good both as a runner and a

486
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: pass catcher. I'm just very worried about the quote you

487
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 2: just gave from Tomlin especially, But yeah, just Warren cutting

488
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 2: into his workload at all is concerning, because that's again,

489
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: that's the reason we liked Harris is we can give him,

490
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: you know, eighty five percent of the carries and all

491
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: the receiving work and with horrible efficiency. But if if

492
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: he's not getting the touches, then what else are we

493
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: banking on here? So I'm very concerned with nauje Hers's

494
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: value going forward.

495
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Warren actually led the Steelers and the rushing yards

496
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 3: last week, right with twenty four, So that tells you what.

497
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 2: Less than half the attempts?

498
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, where are you going with the problem?

499
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 2: Gotta go through Roger Stevenson total rushing okay, and receiving yards.

500
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: I am setting the line at one and three and

501
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: a half.

502
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: I will go over. I have him at I.

503
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 3: Have the average at one eighteen, so yeah, the medium

504
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: would still be higher than one oh three.

505
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I was hoping I would have you over here.

506
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 2: But I thought I said a pretty high line, but

507
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: you still took it.

508
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: I have it a nineteen.

509
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: I have twenty carries for ninety five yards and three

510
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: and a half catches for twenty three.

511
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: What the hell are you projecting Barkley out if he's

512
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 2: number two?

513
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: Markley?

514
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 3: I got nineteen for eighty five and four point two

515
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 3: for thirty.

516
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: But his touchdown projection is high.

517
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 3: His touchdown about point eight, where Stevenson's is zero point

518
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 3: seven to six.

519
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah they're pretty close.

520
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah they're pretty yeah, fair enough, all right, Dann, I

521
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 2: was hoping I would have you over there.

522
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: Wide restever tough five Cooper.

523
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: Cup, Dustin, Jeffersons, Stefon Diggs, Deebo Samuel and Jamar Chase.

524
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: I have cut Jefferson, Diggs, Chase number four and debo fifth.

525
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: Oh okay, how many? How many carries are backing debo

526
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: for this week? That's been interesting?

527
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: I have debo at three carries?

528
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: Okay, same for you.

529
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's been trending down.

530
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: It's in trending down, but it's been leading to more receptions.

531
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: So that's that's the trade off.

532
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: Okay, who a high on?

533
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: I am high on Rondelle Moore this week. He has

534
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: a great matchup against the Seahawks, so I have him

535
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 2: as my wide receiver thirty six compared to the consensus

536
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: of wide receiver forty five. And he's been seeing a

537
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: ton of playing time, you know, ninety four percent routes

538
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 2: run in his debut last you know, week four, ninety

539
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: one percent last week. And he should command you know,

540
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 2: an eighteen to twenty percent target rate as long as

541
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins is out for at least one more game,

542
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: and you know, he's good for one or two rush

543
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: attempts per game, So I think he has a really

544
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 2: high floor for you know, a low end wide receiver

545
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: three flex option this week, so love and based on

546
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: this matchup, I think that against the Seahawks is the

547
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: perfect setup for him and this this will be the

548
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: week to play because like I said, Hopkins is returning

549
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: next game, so that if you ever on a more

550
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: use him this week and then I gotta stick with

551
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: Adam Felin. He's my wide receiver twenty one. The consensus

552
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: is still just wide receiver twenty nine right now, but

553
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 2: I like this matchup against the Dolphins. You know, despite

554
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: having a good secondary, they rank dead last and DVO

555
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: against the pass and feeling he's established himself as a

556
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 2: solid floor sort of wide receiver or two right now

557
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: with his underlying usage. Last week ran around on one

558
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: hundred percent of Kirk Cousins dropbacks, So right now, I

559
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: think we can pencil him in for four point five

560
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 2: to five receptions a game with this underlying usage. And

561
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: he's only scored one touchdown so far, so again he's

562
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: due for some positive touchdown aggression. We have yet to

563
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: really see his ceiling yet, so I'm still treating him

564
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 2: as a low end wide receiver too.

565
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you.

566
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: And it's been a struggle because I have him I

567
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: think wide receiver twenty two as well, but it's just

568
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: he hasn't had like a blow up game.

569
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: But the underline usage, as you mentioned, is coming. Yeah,

570
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: it's there.

571
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: I actually have Vandol Moore as wide receiver twenty four,

572
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: so I am a plus ten on your plus nine.

573
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: Wow.

574
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: But like so, the thing about Rondo Moore, the narrative

575
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: coming into the air was He's gonna be used more

576
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: downfield right Well, hasn't happened. His average up to target

577
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: is five point four, but what does that do? When

578
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 3: you have an average up to target that low, it

579
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: means you're gonna catch a very high percentage of your passes.

580
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 3: And he's also, like you said, running aroun over ninety

581
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: percent of the time and getting targeted a decent amount,

582
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: you know, eighteen percent. So you know, I haven't projected

583
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: for five catches, you know, with over five catches, only

584
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: just around fifty yard. But you know we're talking half

585
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: PPR full PPR here in a game where the Cardinals

586
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 3: you know, the second highest total, yeah, the second highest total,

587
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: and the Cardinals have the second highest implied total on

588
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: the sway at twenty six zero point seventy five points.

589
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 3: So this is a game where his touchdown projection is

590
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 3: going to be higher than usual.

591
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: And uh yeah projected him for about five scores.

592
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: And who knows, maybe Marquis Brown runs into Tarik Wouhlan,

593
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: who's just been balling out for the Seahawks this year.

594
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, I like everything about Rondo.

595
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: And besides, you can usually bank on a rush attempt

596
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: from Rondale as well. He's got one in both of

597
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: his active games so far, so I have him only

598
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: projected for a half a rush attempt, But yeah, have

599
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 3: him for five and a half catches, fifty yards and

600
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: point three six touchdown.

601
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: I haven't I haven't thought about it yet, but with

602
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: James Connor and Darryl Williams, very iffy to shoot up

603
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: this week if they're both out, Uh, you know, we

604
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: might end up projecting Rondell for a few carries, right,

605
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: You could definitely use him as more of a debo role.

606
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: We'll see if Cliff Kingsbury can figure that out. But

607
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: I think I didn't even think of that. If those

608
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: running backs are out, his projection will definitely go up.

609
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ronde Moore, Devin Duvern like the poor man Deebo

610
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 3: Samuel Yep, if only it was Elijah Moore.

611
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: All right for me? Yeah, so Rondo Moore was one.

612
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: And then gotta go with my.

613
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: Dude, Dave Davis. I'm our guy. I mean, how you

614
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: know two of the most amazing plays. I mean one

615
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: of them was all Josh Allen, but the first one, like,

616
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: how about a third and ten?

617
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: Was it?

618
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: Third and nine? Third and ten from the two yard line?

619
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 3: Josh Allen just lets it gave David just beats double

620
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: coverage off the ball.

621
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: Is wide open, twenty yards on the field, yeah, game, screw.

622
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 3: That right, just but like, how do you eat people

623
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: off the ball on a third and end from the

624
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 3: two like he just ran he just split the double

625
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: ran right by one over this past the corner, past

626
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 3: the safety ninety eight yards and then gets to like

627
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,239
Speaker 3: a what a sixty yard where he catches it with

628
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 3: one hands.

629
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: Are you giving one, Josh Allen? No?

630
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 3: No, no, the first one I give it to. I

631
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: give both of them, actually to Davis, but I said

632
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: the first one was a great.

633
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: Allen throw too.

634
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: The second one was just like Davis one hands the

635
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: defender had like almost every receiver gets that ripped away.

636
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: You catch it with one hand and the defender is

637
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: using two hands. Somehow manages to rip it away. So

638
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: now he's up to two catches for one sixty and

639
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: two touchdowns on the day. And let's remember last game

640
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: against the Chiefs eight catches, two hundred and one yards,

641
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: four touchdowns on ten targets. So I have him wide

642
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: receiver fifteen, he's wire receiver nineteen and consensus I might

643
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: end up even higher depending on what happens, you know,

644
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: throughout the week, But.

645
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I really love gave Davis this.

646
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: You got to wear that shirt on k this week.

647
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: I did order some new ones, so hope no, but

648
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: that's the OG one.

649
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, right there, I'm right there with you. I

650
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: can't let you be on an island with gay Davis

651
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: being over consensus. I'm right there with you. At wide

652
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: receiver fifteen, yeah, just massive, massive ceiling and yeah, menka Fitzpatrick.

653
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: If that's any other receiver probably gets an interception there. Yep,

654
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: So that was all Gay Davis on that catch in

655
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: my opinions.

656
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's and he's healthy because I remember like

657
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: the rest of the year he was, he was kind

658
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: of banged up, and he's He's still fourteenth in receiving

659
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: yards per game and despite playing it like probably half

660
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: of his games banged up.

661
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: So love me. That was a question I got on Twitter.

662
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: My apologies if I didn't get to answer, but somebody asked, like,

663
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: are you concerned about that slow stretch he just had?

664
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: But he was hurt, right, he came back from the

665
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: ankle injury, maybe a little bit too soon, but we

666
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: like I gave him some cut him some slack for

667
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: the past couple of weeks, but the underlying usage is there.

668
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: And Josh Allen just loves allowing it to gave Davis.

669
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: That's exactly what we wanted with him. You know. He's

670
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: a downfield threat, sort of a red zone weapon, so

671
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: that's why we drafted him where we did. He just

672
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: has a massive, massive ceiling, so I forgave him those

673
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: couple of rough games in Week three and Week four.

674
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's out here in Awson. Dude, who you low on?

675
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: I am low on unfortunately. Drake London again my favorite

676
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: rookie receiver this year, but this is a tough, tough

677
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: spot facing this Niners defense. So he's my wide receiver

678
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: thirty two to open the week versus the consensus has

679
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: some wide receiver twenty five plus. It looks like he

680
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: picked up a knee injury last week. I don't know

681
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: if it's serious, but obviously something we have to monitor.

682
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: He might not be one hundred percent, which would be

683
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: absolutely necessary to you know, be able to put up

684
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: a good game against this stingy Niners defense. So I'm

685
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: low on Drake London and I'm also low on Tyler Boyd.

686
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 2: I have him as my receiver forty five, but consensus

687
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: is still treating him, you know, as a low end

688
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: wide receiver three. They have him wide receiver thirty eight

689
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: right now, but he was fairly quiet last week, cut

690
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: three balls for thirty yards even though t Higgins was

691
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: essentially out that game. And it looks like, you know,

692
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: I think Hayden Hurst is really starting to eat into

693
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: what you know, Tyler Boyd's role. So I think we're

694
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: gonna have to minre that going forward. But as of now,

695
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: I'm pretty low on boy and I consider more you know,

696
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: wide receiver fifty option than the sneaky low end wide

697
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: receiver three were used to. Just because of Hayden Hurst's emergence.

698
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if if people must be maybe they're

699
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: expecting Tee Higgins to miss the game. I mean, you know,

700
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: I kind of adjusted it for that, and yeah, I

701
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 3: have ving on wide receiver forty five as well, three

702
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: and a half catches.

703
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: For forty five for Boyd with point twenty seven touchdowns.

704
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: And I think the reason we're probably both low on

705
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: Boyd is his targets per route is eleven percent. That

706
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: is not good like you want to get you know,

707
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: at least to like eighteen is around a week. At

708
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: eighteen point eighteen and a half, you want to get

709
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: at least to you know there if you're talking about

710
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 3: a top you know, forty to fifty guy, and then

711
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 3: Hayden Hurst to your point, not great, but it's sixteen,

712
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 3: so it's like and then Mixon's is twenty. So it's like,

713
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: Boyd is literally the fifth option unless Higgins is out,

714
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: but he's still the fourth option.

715
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: And you know that's just.

716
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: Not going to cut it at this point, especially for

717
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: a guy who's a slot receiver. So it's like his average,

718
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: it's a target, is not going to be massively high,

719
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: like I think it's so see what it is this year? Yeah,

720
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: ten point seven, which is pretty average. So yeah, not

721
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: loving board either.

722
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: I am low on. I feel like I'm saying this

723
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: every week.

724
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: But Elijah Moore, Elijah Moore is my wide receiver fifty eight,

725
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 3: and he's still the consensus wide receiver thirty nine. It's

726
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: so people are still kind of viewing him as like

727
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: on that fringe. Start sit in deeper leagues and you know,

728
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 3: twelve teen leagues where you start three receivers in a flex.

729
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: I don't think you should start to dude at this

730
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: point with Zack Wilson, Actually, no, let's do it the

731
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 3: other way without Zack Wilson. Here's Elijah Moore's career receiving

732
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: numbers without Zach Wilson, every other quarterback, Flaco White, all

733
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 3: of them combined sixty four percent completions, eight and a

734
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 3: half yards per target, thirteen point two yards per reception,

735
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 3: and a seven point one percent touchdown rate, which is

736
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: touchdowns into targets.

737
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: And then with Zack.

738
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 3: Wilson forty six percent completion rate, five point three yards

739
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: per target, eleven point six yards per catch, and a

740
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 3: touchdown rate of two percent. So he's dropping eighteen percent

741
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: in catch rate, he's dropping over three yards and yards

742
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: for target, he's dropping over a yard and a half

743
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: in yards per reception, and he's dropping over five percent

744
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: in touchdowns per target. I mean, and he has the

745
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 3: biggest sample with Zack Wilson. So it's it's very concerning.

746
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: And Corey Davis actually led the Jets in routes run

747
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 3: last week, so more actually dipped under eighty percent for

748
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: the first time all year. So I still have them

749
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: all three of the Jets top receivers around eighty five

750
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: percent routes from But I just think we, you know,

751
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: we can't trust more until we see some kind of

752
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: chemistry with Zach Wilson. I actually have Davis ahead of

753
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: More this week as well.

754
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: I have More only projected for three catches for thirty

755
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: eight yards. So yeah, not gonna get it done.

756
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 2: It's been rough as a Elijah Moore Stan, I think

757
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: you are right though his stretch last year he was

758
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: the wide receiver two from weeks eight through thirteen that

759
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: allowed had to do with Flaco, Mike Kwhy even Josh Johnson. Yeah,

760
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: former XFL or usfl whichever league legend. But yeah, it's

761
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: more of a positive, Like I'm still high on Elijah Moore,

762
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: but certainly there's something off there with the chemistry between

763
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: he and Zach Wilson. So hate to see it. But

764
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: he's finally outside my top forty. I'm finally on the

765
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: same path as you, although I will say, fifty what

766
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 2: do you have met fifty eight? Yeah, I'm not quite

767
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 2: there yet, but you have been ahead of the curve there,

768
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: so I might have to, you know, ohm a bit more.

769
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 2: But yeah, this this is not good for Elijah Moore.

770
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's because it was like one

771
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: of the few things we were like we're usually not

772
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: way way off but I think I think I was

773
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: like thirty yards under your Zach Wilson passing line last

774
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 3: week or something like. I'd always said you had him

775
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 3: at like two fifty and I had twenty or something,

776
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: so that I'm having two twenty three for this week.

777
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: So that might be doing it.

778
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that brings me back to my

779
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 2: favorite Abraham Lincoln quote, never judge somebody by their Tuesday

780
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: morning Yeah, fire projections. Yeah, I was very high Zach

781
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 2: Wilson to beginning week, I had two fifty five passing yards,

782
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 2: but later in the week I had some sense knocked

783
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: into me and I was closer to two thirty. Okay,

784
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: but yeah, certainly, certainly earlier in the week, I was very,

785
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: very bullish on the Judge passing attack. But sanity has

786
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: prevailed since then.

787
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 3: Hey, give yourself some credit. You had some great calls

788
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: about early in the week lasting I think you had.

789
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: I think you wore is.

790
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 4: It Breese Hall Oh yeah, pre celebrat It was a

791
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: couple of dudes you like Remoner, I mean yeah, we both,

792
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 4: but yeah, like great calls like way, the only thing right.

793
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: Convinced me other than the Bengals plus three and a

794
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: half was Taysom Hill had the highest sell Yeah, of

795
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: any tight end. Everything else I got wrong, but yeah,

796
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: Taysom Hill. Well we'll get to him later.

797
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

798
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: Receiving prop though, we're going with Drake London here and yeah, no,

799
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: this is a tough one for me because I'm actually

800
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: lower than you in ranking to open the week. I

801
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 3: haven't wide receiver thirty seven. But remember the forty nine

802
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: Ers did lose top corner Emanuel Moseley to a torn

803
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: a cl and they also likely will be without Nick

804
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: Bosa and Jimmy Ward. So this is still a good defense,

805
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 3: but it's not the same defense that it's been, you know,

806
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: over the first five games of the year. However, that

807
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: being said, you know, for anyone that's not quite following

808
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: Drake London's routes, run or route participation get to sixty

809
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: eight percent last week. So that's why kind of you know,

810
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 3: need to nail down this projection. I'm going to set

811
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: the receiving line for yardage at forty six and a half.

812
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: I wrote down forty eight and a half. A damn it.

813
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: I will go with over on talent. There's two variables

814
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: that play here. The first one is we don't know

815
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: if Kyle Pitts is playing or not. The second is,

816
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: what the hell is your projection for Marcus Merit of

817
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: passing hours? I think that is the critical variable here

818
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: because I am pretty low, not quite justin fields low,

819
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: but I'm at one seventy right now.

820
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I got a I got a one ninety nine,

821
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: that one, that one, but so much I love Drake London. Yeah,

822
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: because I'm saying you, yeah, so you haven't projected from

823
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: a much larger percentage of the receiving.

824
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: What do you haven't projected for routes run?

825
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: That is a great question.

826
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: Let me I have him at eighty two point five.

827
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 3: That is a very particular I do I do I

828
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: do in two point two point Okay, yeah, so around

829
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: the same I do.

830
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: Love When what game was that where we were posting

831
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: on Twitter our routes run.

832
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,479
Speaker 1: There's the Broncos sob Yeah.

833
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: Somebody said I would love to learn how you guys

834
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: do these? Well we're talking about it right now. Yeah, right,

835
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: this is exactly what we're doing. So we're projecting the

836
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: routes run. You know how many targets we're gonna We're

837
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: expecting them to see on those routes run, Yeah, and

838
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: then a few other things, but that that is the

839
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: bare bones of what we're doing here.

840
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the reason I do in like two two

841
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 3: and a half percent intervals is because, uh, the average

842
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: team will have just about forty drop backs a little

843
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: under per game, and one into forty is about two

844
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 3: and a half percent. So it's like it's like like essentially,

845
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: anytime I increase it by two and a half, it's

846
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 3: like essentially me increasing it by one route.

847
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: So it's okay. Instead of doing it.

848
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: Like by like eighty four, eighty five or five is

849
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: a little much for me, because then it's like it

850
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 3: could get you know, it's a lot of it's a

851
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: little more barely.

852
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: I'd try to do it by two and a half

853
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: for the most part.

854
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: I just I just round to the nearest whole number,

855
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: So I have eighty five percent for him, like the

856
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: keyst have sixty eight percent, So I'm getting particular. Yeah,

857
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: but just not down to the point five like you. Yeah,

858
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 2: but that makes sense to me to describe it that way.

859
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was the keyst at sixty. I like, I'm

860
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: just I'm just using them.

861
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: They're they're season one for like the other guys, because

862
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 3: like I it's like the giants out here.

863
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 2: It's like no, no, nobody is quite like the Giants.

864
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, tight end Top five, Top.

865
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: Five, Let's see Uh Travis Kelsey, Mark Andrews Uh and

866
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: then zach Ertz, Tyler Higby, Dallas Gotter. I feel like

867
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: those last three are all like kind of the Fantasy

868
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: flex favorites. Yeah, so it's fun to see them inside

869
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: the top five this week. I'm going Kelsey, Andrews, Kittle, Ertz, Higbee.

870
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: So you know, kidd was still coming out three for me,

871
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: it's like he's still running a route over eighty percent

872
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: of the time and so like he always played a

873
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: few games, so I'm still you know, using some of

874
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: his priors.

875
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: He's still hash that good.

876
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 3: But I feel like they got to get him going

877
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: like sooner than later. Like he had the fumble, he's

878
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: probably kicking himself. I think he also had a touchdown

879
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: that he like a near touchdown that he dropped or

880
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: or whatever. So it's just kind of a bet on

881
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: talent with me for kiddo. And because this is not

882
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: really a great tight end week like last week, I

883
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: was super high on Goddard, but this week against Dallas,

884
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: you know a lot of pressure not not quite a

885
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,479
Speaker 3: little more man coverage perhaps just not necessarily a great

886
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: Goddard week. And then Higbee it's like every catch he

887
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 3: gets is like a like a carry, It's like three yards.

888
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: Count. Yeah, yeah, beat your man.

889
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 3: No they dude, like I got, I got higgbye fifth.

890
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 3: I'm just who's the guy? I guess Gottard is my six?

891
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, just the Eagles this week, you know, this

892
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: is this I got a lot of respect for this

893
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: Dallas d So I'm projecting the Eagles, you know, one

894
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: of their lower point scoring totals of the year, kind

895
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 3: of in line with Vegas they're at. You know, Vegas

896
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: has them projected let's see about twenty under twenty four

897
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: points this week. So you know for Egle team that

898
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 3: has been kind of above that twenty six twenty seven

899
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: mark most weeks, just that's probably what's knocking them out.

900
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: But there's essentially tied. But I do like Ers this

901
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 3: week ERTs is he's going up against what is it

902
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: the uh that Seahawks defense, and they are but a

903
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 3: thirty second in DVO against tight end, I believe, so

904
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: they Yeah, that's a that's a third.

905
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: I think Alabama ahead of them. I think we're now

906
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 2: dipping into the you know here.

907
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 3: And you know it's crazy, you know it's crazy about

908
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: that right that that doesn't count anything from Taysom Hill.

909
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: Like if you look at their fantasy voice against tight ends,

910
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 3: it's even crazy.

911
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, taste them. Hill just at three threshold, play.

912
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: As many like whenever bat Siela or vers Seattle, just

913
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: play that person.

914
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and should have had a nut catch Kyler

915
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: murray Man just overthrew overthrow them with the game on

916
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: the line.

917
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: What a just a mistake field game for Kyler. But

918
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: who are you high on?

919
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: So I'm high on Taysom Hill. He's my tight end

920
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 2: nine right now versus the consensus of tight end eleven.

921
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: It might sound like I'm a week late to the party,

922
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 2: but I have been saying he has the whitest range

923
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 2: of outcomes of any tight end in fancy football history.

924
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: And back in week two I was saying, you know,

925
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 2: he's he's a good bench staff just to see what happens.

926
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: But in hindsight, he's the kind of guy that we

927
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: should have been playing as opposed to you know, a

928
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: guy like I don't know, Noah Fan or some you

929
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: know exactly, I'm trying to think it to somebody, you mean,

930
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: like like a Gerald Everett even where yeah, Robert Tunyan

931
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: perfect example, where yeah, he might be a better bet

932
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: to score you know, three to four points, congratulations. But

933
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: when it comes to the tight end position, everybody kind

934
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: of has the floor. So Taysom Hell has this godly ceiling,

935
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: and you know, we just saw last week. Unfortunately, it's

936
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: gonna be impossible to get him now on the waiver wire.

937
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: It's gon require you know, a shit ton of fab

938
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: or your number one waiver. But either way, like, he's

939
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: the kind of guy in this range, I'm all about

940
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 2: playing him. We're not going to see a game like

941
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: last week again, but I think that they have said

942
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: that going forward they're going to get him more involved

943
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: in the offense. So I just think he is the

944
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 2: cheat go play at tight end. And I have been

945
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 2: kind of saying that quietly in the past few weeks,

946
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: But now that the cats out of the bag, like

947
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: we just have to go all in with him. So

948
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: he is a top ten tight end going forward. Howhigh

949
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: did you have him last week? I had him we

950
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: can explain. We have different things in our spreadsheet where

951
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: I have like quarterback passing projections and rushing projections. All

952
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: that all told I was like tight End thirteen. I

953
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: believe you were a little bit higher than me.

954
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ended up Titan twelve. But yeah, no, I

955
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: mean that's that should like for fantasy pros. That should

956
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 3: be really good.

957
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: For both of us.

958
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, census, Yeah, I think that was

959
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: two top cases.

960
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and the census was tight End twenty nine.

961
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, so things like that is really.

962
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: What helps us shoot up into and stayed into the

963
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: top five. So I think both of us being high

964
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: on him last week is really good for that contest.

965
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, but we've been projecting him pretty high for

966
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: you know, the past few weeks now when he was there.

967
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: Of course he missed was a week three years something

968
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: like that, but yeah, yeah, when he's been healthy, we've

969
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: been projecting him like a top you know, sort of

970
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: fifteen tight end. Yeah.

971
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: I have him for like five carries for thirty one yards,

972
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 3: about three for steven yards, and then.

973
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: Let's see, wait, where do you rank him this week?

974
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: I have actually it's fourteen, So I'm a little low

975
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: I'm oh, yeah, so I'm a little further down. Last

976
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: week must have just been a bad tight end week,

977
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 3: But I mean he might. It's very close, So I

978
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: mean he's gonna be in that startable range either way.

979
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't, I wouldn't knock anyone from starting him.

980
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: It's just more, you know, just be prepared for the

981
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: low floor.

982
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 4: That's essentially Oh yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying.

983
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: But I would say there's only about eight ends I

984
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 2: would start over him, and even then, Like I think

985
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: when it comes to fantasy football and tight end positions, specifically,

986
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: if you don't have a top five tight end, you

987
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: should be shooting for the moon. Anyway. We kind of

988
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: talk about that when it comes to our draft strategy.

989
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: Once you have three wide receivers, start shooting for upside,

990
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 2: like if you're already kind of streaming tight ends or

991
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: don't have a top five guy like Taysom Hill is

992
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 2: your guy, and you have to expect a wide range

993
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 2: of outcomes. But I think it's it's warranted at this point.

994
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Irv Smith is the guy I'm high on final week.

995
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: After all that he had our season high sixty eight

996
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: percent route participation rate last week and Miami is twenty

997
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 3: ninth and DV away against tight ends. They're giving up

998
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: the fourth most catches per game to tight ends, the

999
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 3: seventh most receiving yards per game to tight ends at

1000
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: sixty one. So again, it's you know, it's bye weeks.

1001
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: Just Titan is all about routes, unless you're Taysom Hill.

1002
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: It's all about routes. It's all about routes.

1003
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, Er Smith is just you know,

1004
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 3: he's he's creeping up.

1005
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: There, so uh, you know, don't love it, but he

1006
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: is a guy.

1007
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: I am.

1008
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: I'm tied in eleven on him consensus tight end fifteen,

1009
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 3: so h take care of what it's worth.

1010
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: I guess would you would you start IRV Smith over

1011
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: Taysom Hill.

1012
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 3: At this point early in the week, Yes, but yeah,

1013
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, it could go either way. Okay,

1014
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: let's yeah, Yeah, I've IRV Smith Taysom Hill. I have

1015
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: him separated by point three points. So yeah, I'm.

1016
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: Just saying shoot for the moon. Man.

1017
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: Hey, Er Smith has got to have like a five catch,

1018
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 3: sixty eight yard, two touchdown game, so.

1019
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: What right, right? Right? He doesn't have a oh.

1020
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 2: He turns into the quarterback because Andy Dalton goes down

1021
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 2: in game. I'm just saying, yeah, no, I haven't.

1022
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 3: I have Hill projected for about just under ten percent

1023
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: of the quarterback.

1024
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 2: No, oh no, I know. I don't want to get

1025
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 2: ahead of ourselves because that is my prop that I'm

1026
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: off for you, So I don't get to reveal anything. Okay,

1027
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: but obviously you know we can only project him for

1028
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: one or two attempts. But if Jameis Winston is out

1029
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: this week and Andy Dalton gets banged up in game,

1030
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 2: Taysom Hill would be the quarterback for the rest of

1031
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: the game. That's kind of what I'm getting at. Yeah. No,

1032
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: when it comes to the ceiling, like think about that.

1033
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: But again, we'll discuss that more in depth when it

1034
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: comes to our player problem.

1035
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 1: I figured you were going to go, who are you lowing?

1036
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: Oh man, We're tired on this, so I will let

1037
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: you go first.

1038
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 3: Tyler Conky, I feel like every jet am I just

1039
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: lower on Zach Like listen, I like Zach rostood. I

1040
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: feel like he's been playing well, but like, you can't

1041
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: project this guy from one in like two hundred and

1042
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 3: thirty passing yards at least yet, like until he shows something.

1043
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, I Tyler conk is a consensus tight end twelve.

1044
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: I have him tight end twenty nine. And that's not

1045
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 3: just because of you know, being maybe low on Zach Wilson.

1046
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 3: It's because cj Uzoma ran fifty four percent of the

1047
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 3: route last week, Conklin ran twenty nine percent. So I

1048
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: don't know if that was a bench ching, a demotion

1049
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 3: and injury, Like we haven't seen the injury report for

1050
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: this week yet, but that's obviously concerning.

1051
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: That's just out.

1052
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 3: That's Albert Old levels of like going from like the

1053
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 3: starter to like a non factor. So uh yeah, right now,

1054
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: I mean he's barely he's not even like, what are

1055
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 3: their twenty eight teams playing this week?

1056
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not even in the top twenty eight.

1057
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: So uh And by the way, Green Bay allowing the

1058
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 3: third fewest catches per game to tight ends at three

1059
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: and the third fewest receiving yards per game to tight

1060
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: ends at twenty seven point two, So not a good matchup.

1061
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 3: And he was on the field for under the past

1062
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: plays last week.

1063
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: Yep. I'm right there with you. I had him as

1064
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: my tight end in twenty seven, I believe, but you know,

1065
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: heading into the season, we thought it was gonna be

1066
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 2: a pretty even committee with Uzomah and Conklin. So Uzomo

1067
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: he was banged up in week two and week three,

1068
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 2: I believe, so now he's healthy and he ran more

1069
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 2: routes and Conchland last week. We just have to back

1070
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: off from the situation entirely. And like you said, I'm

1071
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm pretty low on all the Jets pass catchers. It

1072
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: really has to do with BRICEE. Hall, Like he is

1073
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 2: the offense right now. So the only guy I think

1074
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: is really startable is Brize Hall right now. So as

1075
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 2: a result, you know, a guy like Conklin, he is

1076
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: off the radar and I don't know why his consensus

1077
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: is tight ended twelve other than people just recycling. I

1078
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 2: don't know last week's rank to begin the week or something,

1079
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 2: but yeah, he is off the map right now. You

1080
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: should not be starting him. And you know, until we

1081
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 2: see him running route over seventy percent of Zauson's dropbacks,

1082
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: he is not startable.

1083
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think what people don't. I don't think it's

1084
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 3: just the recycling. I think it's because people are using

1085
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: the season long numbers. So it's like, you know, he's

1086
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 3: averaging four point two catches the game, which I'm sure

1087
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: is pretty high among tight ends. But yeah, like you

1088
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: got to take into account usage, you know, changing, and

1089
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 3: I haven't projected for I still haven't projected, So I'm

1090
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 3: using like half of last week's number and then half

1091
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 3: of his season long for the route projected to run

1092
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 3: exactly fifty percent of the routes, you know, just kind

1093
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 3: of witting it down the middle, and I have them

1094
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 3: at two point two catches for twenty yards.

1095
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, that makes a ton of sense. And again

1096
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not knocking consensus. That goes back to

1097
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: my Abraham Lincoln quote. I'm not judging consensus based on

1098
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: Tuesday morning projection, right right, right, obviously, but I think

1099
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: either way we're both going to be much lower than

1100
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: east Yard this week, would be my guess.

1101
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: All right, We're going with the prop.

1102
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: Taysom Hill total passing, rushing and receiving yards against the

1103
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: Bengals this week. Man, this is a tough line it set,

1104
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 2: but I'm going with fifty eight and a half.

1105
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one. Let's see I have them.

1106
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: And you can break down the three various I'm going under.

1107
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: I have it around fifty two.

1108
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 3: I have thirty one rushing, three receiving, and eighteen passing.

1109
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's hilarious. The one he's contributing to the

1110
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: least two is receiving yards. I tweeted yesterday that despite

1111
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey scoring you know, four touchdowns, Taysom Hill was

1112
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: still the top tight end of the week with zero receptions.

1113
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's Taysom Hill for you.

1114
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: That is nuts.

1115
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's he's the only running around about ten percent

1116
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 3: of the time. So you know, it comes down to

1117
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 3: his rushing. And yeah, I haven't projected he has spent

1118
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 3: about ten percent of his snaps at quarterback.

1119
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: He's he's just running on most of them.

1120
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 3: But I still have him for a couple of attempts

1121
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 3: because he did throw he did throw a touchdown last week.

1122
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 3: So you know, I haven't projected for about two and

1123
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 3: a half attempts this week because like you said, I think,

1124
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 3: you know, whether it's Jamis or Dalton, I think you know,

1125
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 3: they they want to get him a couple of those

1126
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 3: snaps at quarterback and they're continuing to do that. And

1127
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: like the more he has success running, the more they

1128
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: can kind of set up those pass plays so and

1129
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 3: they're gonna be big plays, like if he hits a

1130
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 3: pass pitch.

1131
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I haven't maybe it's agressive, but I have

1132
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 1: him for eighteen pass yards.

1133
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: So what was your total projection there?

1134
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: Fifty about fifty two two? Okay, yeah, about six yards.

1135
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: He's not going to end up anywhere near this. It'll

1136
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: be like twenty or eighty, right, yeah, right, I should

1137
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: have maybe next week or the next time I have

1138
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: a Taysom Hill prop for you, I'll do a range

1139
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: like I used to, like will he finish between and

1140
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 2: sixty five? You know, trying to get arranged because that's

1141
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 2: gonna be tough for him because he has a wide

1142
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 2: range of outcomes. But yeah, I think somewhere in that,

1143
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: I wonder have you been noticing books floading props on him?

1144
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything it gets.

1145
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean outside of obviously anytime touchdown.

1146
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would love.

1147
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 2: To see that.

1148
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, if the books gave me a fifteen

1149
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 3: and a half, I would bank under, to be honest with.

1150
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 4: You, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, Because you've got to have

1151
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 4: three median the three different mediums that you have to like.

1152
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 2: Man but yeah, would you actually you would bet on

1153
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: it though, I think that would yeah, yeah.

1154
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 3: Because like because like, all right, he just broke away

1155
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: on like three different runs. It's like those runs can

1156
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 3: easily get stabbed, Like if just one of them gets

1157
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 3: like stuffed in the backfield, then the others just go

1158
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: for normal yardage. Like he's not coming anywhere.

1159
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: Close to this.

1160
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: The Bengals are obviously going to scheme for that this

1161
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: week exactly.

1162
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 3: So these things kind of have ebbs and flows. It's like,

1163
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 3: you know, a guy like Taysom Hills, when he's a

1164
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 3: package specific guy. It's like, I'm sure they're gonna have

1165
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: ways to use them this week that are gonna be

1166
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 3: different from last week. And honestly, at the goal line,

1167
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 3: I think, you know, like for a touchdown, I think

1168
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 3: he's still a decent bet because like the defense knows

1169
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 3: what's coming and they still just at the goal line,

1170
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 3: they just run him in anyway.

1171
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, this if this prop is probably gonna just

1172
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 2: be passing in rushing yards I think, but it's in

1173
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 2: the sixties or something. I would definitely hammer the under.

1174
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: But we'll see what they do with this this week.

1175
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: But that should be exciting if they post.

1176
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: One, get it up, FanDuel.

1177
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,000
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1178
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,640
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