1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm happy to take questions if you haven't. He gave 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: me a list on how to recognize is Alex ap 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 1: out there? Yes, I'm sorry. Who was I supposed to 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: go to the next name? Anybody? I got to make 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: sure I get the the Wilmington newspaper here before I 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: make sure I'll be dead. Last question, real quick. Some 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: have speculator sign that you are subject to some degree 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: of cognitive decline. I'm sixty five. I don't have a 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: word recollection that I used to have. I forget my 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: train of thought from time to time. You got twelve 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: years on me, sir art. Have you been tested for 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: some degree of cognitive decline? I've been testing one constantly. 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Test Look all you. All I gotta do is watch me, 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: and I can hardly wait to compare my cognitive capability 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: to the cognitive capabilly of the man I'm running against. 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: Unchain Wall Street. You're gonna put y'all back in chain. 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: It's a long way into November. We got more questions. 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: You got more questions by Joey. And if you have 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: a problem figuring out whether you're fremire Trump and you 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: ain't black, okay, that's Joe Biden. Then we got the 21 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: whole segregation, integrations, bussing issues, support of Robert k KK 22 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: bird issue. By the way, none of those questions came up. 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm glad to know that we now 24 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: have a message from Joe, and that is Joe gets 25 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: the ever week forgetful Joe, he gets a cognitive test regularly. 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: That is so reassuring to me. All Right, So we've 27 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: been hearing from the mob the media all about the polls, 28 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: the polls, the polls. There was another poll that came 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: out yesterday that I don't think anybody reported that had 30 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: the president winning in Wisconsin over Joe Biden by one point, 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: certainly within the margin of error. But that poll is 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: out there too. I've seen other polls by people I 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: respect that are not quite matching up to the polls 34 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: of some of the quote news organizations, and you know, 35 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: I find a lot of problems with those polls. But 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: being one hundred and twenty five days away from election day, 37 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: when you become the ultimate jury, what do these polls 38 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: mean if anything? John McLaughlin Poster strategist, Matt Towery, syndicated columnist, 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 1: attorney poster. We dragged him out of retirement. He tried 40 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: to retire. We dragged him right back in. He's never 41 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: going to retire. Welcome back, both of you. Okay, Matt 42 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: will start with you. You've been very cued into, as 43 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: John has been, the flawed methodology of polling. But with 44 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: that said, in my mind, I always like to think 45 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: that we're down by six. It's the two minute drill. 46 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: A Republicans always got to run the table and win Florida, Ohio, Georgia, 47 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: North Carolina, pick off Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin and 48 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: hopefully Minnesota, told Arizona. Maybe he'd take Nevada, New Mexico, 49 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: and don't forget about New Hampshire and the congressional district 50 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: number two in Maine. So that's where my mind is 51 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: right now. Well, you covered it. I mean, you got 52 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: the states that you know. My thought is this, we 53 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: talked last time. I'm not going to pretend that the polling, 54 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: it's relatively speaking, has shifted in a more precarious direction 55 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: for the president. I'm not going to say that it 56 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: means he would lose. What I will say is that 57 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: I usually give Donald Trump on average three points for 58 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: any poll, no matter how flawed or rate. The poell 59 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: Is said, three points to him means three points from 60 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: the other candidates, So that's a six point spread. Because 61 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: I happen to believe they are very few undecided in 62 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: this country. We see undecided, but that I think you 63 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: really just have a shift from one side to another. 64 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: That's that I think. I think the President is I 65 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: want to make this point because I'm preaching this over 66 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: and over again. The President is not running against Biden. 67 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: That's very clear. If you're running against Biden this or 68 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: a regular year, we'd have headlines today say Biden says 69 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: he's tested constantly for his cognitive abilities. We have none 70 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: of those. He's running, as you point out over and 71 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: over again, against the media in this country. And I 72 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: think the one thing that has to happen is the 73 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: paid advertising from dampaign and all the groups to support 74 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: him need to be pointing out the reality of the 75 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: world that Donald Trump's lives in, because they're not getting 76 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: it from most of these media sources. And the point 77 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: being exactly what you said played earlier about the cognitive testing. 78 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: He made that statement that would have been a huge 79 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: issue at Donald Trump said it, and Eric Trump said 80 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: that last night on your show. But it's not an 81 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: issue at all for this media. So if someone else 82 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: is going to have to educate the public as we 83 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: go to the last quarter of this battle to finish 84 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: my analogy, you know, for the Republican to win the 85 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: two minute drill, no time outs, that means you got 86 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: across the plane. Linda does not know what that means, 87 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: and then kick the extra point to win. John McLaughlin 88 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: and I think Matt is right. The single biggest contributor 89 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: is going to be the mob. The media. They're all in. 90 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they want more than anything to defeat Donald Trump. Yes, 91 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: and four years ago, remember we were the only ones 92 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: saying he could win. We said it on your show. 93 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean all the polls. This is like deja vu 94 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: all over again. If you go back to the Real 95 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: Clear Politics website, there's one hundred and seventy three polls 96 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: from May of twenty sixteen to election day national polls. 97 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: Trump was only winning in thirteen out of one hundred 98 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: and seventy three polls. At this point in time, The 99 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: Washington Post had us down ten points nationally. They gave 100 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: us on the Real Clear Politics say only one hundred 101 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: and sixty four electro votes. Guess what in October they 102 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: didn't get any better because they're doing the same polls 103 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: of adults, registered voters, not likely voters. They're not using 104 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: voter lists, they just randomly calling people. And guess what 105 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: they had four years ago. In October thirteenth, NBC had 106 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: Clinton up eleven. October fourteenth, Boston College Who Should Stick 107 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: to Football had Clinton up ten. Momoth College had Clinton 108 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: up This is October sixteen, up twelve. ABC. On October 109 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: twenty third, twelve October twenty fourth, the AP had Clinton 110 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: up fourteen, and on election Day The New York Times 111 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: five thirty eight gave Hillary eighty five percent. She was 112 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: gonna win. The exit polls came out wrong. You had 113 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: You had Frank once on your show saying on election 114 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: Day we were going to lose or he was in 115 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: Times Square and it was about I think a little 116 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: after six pm on election day, Yes, sir, he said 117 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: it was over and Trump lost, right, and we're on 118 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: your show saying, no, we get the vote out, like 119 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: you said, We sent him to five or six cities 120 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: a day. He campaigned from six am to midnight, and 121 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: the President left no vote unturned. And we won a 122 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: very close election, seventy eight thousand votes out of one 123 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: hundred thirty nine million, a record turnout. And we won 124 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: forty four thousand or forty six thousand in Pennsylvania, twenty 125 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: two thousand in Wisconsin, ten thousand in Michigan. And we 126 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: won four years ago. They didn't think we could win, 127 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: so they were believing their own bad propaganda. This time, 128 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: they are afraid Donald Trump can win and they are 129 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: trying to suppress our votes so that we give up. 130 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: It's the same bad poles. It's deja rule over again. 131 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: The only differences the media is doubling down and they're 132 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: working like the press campaign or the press secretaries for 133 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Right now. It's never been this bad. And 134 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, the question is, as I said, and you've 135 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: got to thread a needle if you're a Republican to 136 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: win the presidency, because you start out, you start without 137 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: the what fifty four or five electoral votes in California, 138 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna win Washington State or Oregon, and 139 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: you're not gonna win Illinois and New Jersey and New York. 140 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: That's a lot of electoral votes right there. And you've 141 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: got a lot of states. You got to hold Matt Towery. 142 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: It is never going to be easy. And at this 143 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: point one question you said, it's not going to be 144 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: about Joe Biden. But the country is already saying in 145 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: the Zogby poll, and I believe it was the rescue 146 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: of some pole that came out yesterday. It was in 147 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: the Washington Examiner that they believe the Joe Biden has dementia. 148 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: That's what the pole is asking. Well, that's interesting because said, 149 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: let me just say this. So I constantly people say, oh, 150 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: why did Trump say this? Why did you say that? 151 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: Let me make it clear, this is the best presidential 152 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: candidate that I in my life's time, certainly in my 153 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: adult lifetime when I've dealt with them in the past 154 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: or whatever. He is the best I have ever seen. 155 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: The important thing is that his message has to be 156 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: broadcast beyond just Donald Trump, and people have to understand 157 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: the context from which he is reacting because they're not 158 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: getting the real word and the real news. But to 159 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: the point that John made, elections are about turnout, and 160 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: that's why John and I were predicting Trump would when 161 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: that day when no one else was, and it's why 162 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: you used, Sean believe that what we were saying was right, 163 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: because you know, they're a function of turnout. I think 164 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: there's a certain percentage of people who will not tell 165 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: posters they're going to vote for Donald Trump, and certainly 166 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: in this environment, they are probably saying the complete opposite 167 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: because talking to a live interviewer, it's on a cell phone, 168 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: they don't know who, they don't know what the context is, 169 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: and they're quite frankly, you're free. You know, I understand, 170 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: and I believe all of that. But I think when 171 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, when you think of all that they've done 172 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: to bloody up this president and the lies, the smear, slander, besmirchment, 173 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: character assassination, the conspiracy theory, the hoax, the impeachment, it's 174 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: been an awful lot to deal with. And then add 175 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: the worst pandemics in nineteen eighteen John McLaughlin, and you know, 176 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: he will never get credit for saving New York and 177 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and because none of those states 178 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: did anything except put old people in harm's way. It's 179 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: frustrating on a lot of levels. I cannot, and I 180 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: don't think anybody can say with any certainty, although it'd 181 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: be great to see the media choke on the words. 182 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: We can now project that Donald J. Trump has been 183 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: reelected the forty fifth president of the United States. That 184 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: would be worth the price of admission. Absolutely. And by 185 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: the way, when I repeated a similar lettany to the 186 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: President and told him his base was still rock solid, 187 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: with over ninety percent of the Republicans voting for him 188 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: a forty six percent likely voter national approval, he said 189 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: to me one thing he said, and you left out. 190 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: They tried to impeach me for two years. So considering everything, 191 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: I hate to say, I hate to correct the president, 192 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: but it's really been a four year campaign. Yes, absolutely, absolutely, 193 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: But when you think about it, by the way, the 194 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: issues are he's got courage and the issues are turning 195 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: his way in that national Paul I just mentioned to 196 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: you we did a pull for Secure America Now, and 197 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: we asked him, do you think defunding a local police 198 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: is a good idea or a bad idea? The majority 199 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: of Americans said bad idea fifty seven thirty and guests 200 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: with the New York City Council decided to do yesterday, 201 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: and that included, by the way, forty three percent Democrats 202 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: thirty four African Americans, forty eight percent of Hispanics bad idea. 203 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: And the key is, do you think defunding local police 204 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: would cause crime to increase? Sixty eight percent said yes. 205 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: And that went across the board by every political party, 206 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: every ideology, including fifty three percent of liberals and forty 207 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: seven percent of African Americans, sixty nine percent of Hispanics. 208 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: I mean, what are they thinking? And they're handing Donald 209 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: Trump this issue and he's putting out on it today 210 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: because he's gonna stand behind law enforcement and he's gonna 211 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: make us feel safe. Joe Biden won't. Joe Biden won't 212 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: stand up. He hasn't that press conference you we're talking 213 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: about the travel band in China. They never asked him 214 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: about it. He's criticizing the president for coronavirus and never 215 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: mentions that he was against banning travel from China. They 216 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: don't ask him where he stands on defunding the police. 217 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: And guess what when he said he goes through testing 218 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: all the time. They didn't ask him to release any 219 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: cognitive tests because he you know, if it's that testing 220 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: or other testing he's got, but he doesn't probably remember either. 221 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: Stay right, there are posters Matt Towery, John McLaughlin eight 222 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: hundred nine, eight hundred nine four one sewn you want 223 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. And as we continue, 224 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: our posters Matt Towery and John mclaglin are with us. 225 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: All right. So Americans are deeply unhappy with the state 226 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: of the nation. You know, we're struggling with a pandemic, 227 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: economic recession, anarchy. We saw what happened to the Chop 228 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: Chaz Summer of Love, spaghetti potluck, dinner zone. I guess 229 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: the mayor didn't like it when all of these anarchists 230 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: showed up at her house. Oh now, all of a sudden, 231 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: she has shifted her tone. And look what happened today. 232 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: Those issues, there's such a distinction between them, John McLaughlin, 233 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: This is the biggest choice election in our lifetime, absolutely, 234 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: and it's probably the biggest sense of civil war. And 235 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: when you think about it, what happened in Seattle was 236 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: tragic because the mayor acted because a sixteen year old 237 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: boy was shot. Happened to be an African American boy 238 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: was shot by these guards in this chat zone and 239 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: no one is out there riding or looting or anything 240 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: like that. This poor boy died, and no one is 241 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: calling for a civil rights investigation, but the Department of 242 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: Justice or to send their people and to make sure 243 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: that's done. And in the meantime, they're out there still 244 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: wanting to take Boston wants to take down a statue 245 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: of Abraham Lincoln. I mean Abraham Lincoln. If they can 246 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: change the values in history of this country, I mean, 247 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: they're trying to destroy it. And President Trump is standing 248 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: up to make sure we have a country left. It's 249 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: very important. Yeah that your take on it. My take 250 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: is this, you know, everything John is saying is true, 251 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: and we find how ironic it is, how out of 252 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: step it is. I think the one point that I 253 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: continue to make is is that most Americans who look 254 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: at scan amounts of news media that they get off 255 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: on social media. Some watch the network, some watch some 256 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: read some papers, but not a lot. If they're looking 257 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: at everything to the prison of the biased media that 258 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: we all discussed at the beginning of this, a lot 259 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: of this they're never going to hear. So one of 260 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: the things I advocate for for the President people who 261 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: support it is that they become the news media. Someone 262 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: in this country has to counterbalance what these people are seeing, 263 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: whether it's the packs or the campaign or whatever, so 264 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: that they see the news of what the reality that's happening. 265 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: I think once they're in the reality of Donald Trump, 266 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: they'll certainly understand why the president's taking the positions he is, 267 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: the law and order and the like. It's so necessary, 268 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: but it's necessary we educate the public. And we got 269 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: about one hundred and thirty something days, one hundred forty 270 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: days to do it. Actually it's one hundred and twenty five, 271 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: but I don't who's counting. What's you know, a few 272 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: days among friends. You know, if you're a Democrat, it's 273 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty, if you're a Republican, it's one 274 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five. Test kidding, Hannity suppresses vote. I 275 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: can see the articles now, all right, Matt Towery, John McLaughlin, 276 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: thank you. Both people say all the time, Oh, we 277 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: got to get the vice president of the basement. He's 278 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: fine in the baseball two people see him a day, 279 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: his two bodied people. That's it. And let Trump keep 280 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: doing what Trump's doing. It's hard for the vice president 281 00:14:54,280 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: to break through, you know, the rapidly rising in with 282 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: I don't know I'm beginning to get bored by my 283 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: own talk here. I came back from law school and 284 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: doctor King was assassinated, and when he came I came back. 285 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: My city's the only city in America occupied by the 286 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: National Guards since reconstruction because of significant portion was burned 287 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: to the ground. I came back out a job with 288 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: a good law firm, and I quit became a public defender. 289 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: But even doctor King's assassination did not have the worldwide 290 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: impact that George Floyd's death. All right, hour two Sean 291 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: Hannity show those comments made by Biden, even doctor King's 292 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: assassination did not have the worldwide impact of George that 293 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: George Floyd's death did. Um and then him saying I'm 294 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: bored by my own talking, and of course Terry mcculloff 295 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: saying he's just fine being in the basement only these 296 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: two people a day. It's perfect. This is the perfect candidate, 297 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: especially Joe to forgetful, one who puts his foot in 298 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: his mouth every five seconds. Now, may sound a little 299 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: hypocritical here by saying, well, I don't believe polls at 300 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: this point, and I don't even know if we know 301 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: exactly what the actual issues are that will propel people 302 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: to the polls in one hundred and forty five days. 303 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody can accurately, in any way shape, 304 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: manner of form, predict all of that. But I will 305 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: tell you that, you know, the anecdotal evidence that I 306 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: shared with you from news Week in the last hour 307 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: about how many people showed up in Georgia to vote 308 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: for him versus the polls, the last eight of them 309 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: just having Trump up by forty five to forty four 310 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: over Biden, and then you see, you know, records shattering 311 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: people going to the polls. He gets more people in 312 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: a primary vote uncontested than all the Democratic candidates combine, anecdotally. 313 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: Is that something that we can look at. I think 314 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: it's I think it's absolutely something. If the June fifth 315 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: Rassmussen poll is true, and that being that the president 316 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: has a forty percent approval rating among African Americans, that 317 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: would be fairly dramatic. Also, anyway, we bring in our 318 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: posters or experts, John McLaughlin, Matt Towery, and Scott Rassmussen. Scott, 319 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: let me first, I mentioned your poll on June fifth. 320 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: Have you updated that particular demographic African Americans because you 321 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: had the president out of approval rating with them. Well, actually, 322 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: set that was my old company. I left there seven 323 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: years ago, so my my polling does not show the 324 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: President doing that well among African Americans. He's about fifteen 325 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: percent among African Americans in turn fifteen is almost doubled 326 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: what he got in twenty sixteen. And that's your most 327 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: recuy the way, how do you how do you sell 328 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: your company with your name on it and you still 329 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: have another polling company. It's a little odd. Well, you know, 330 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: there's a passage of time in between you sit out 331 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: for a non compete and you move on. It does 332 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: free a little bit of confusion. Sorry about that, but 333 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm very happy with the work I'm doing now. And uh, 334 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: you know it's it's something that I don't comment on 335 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: the polls by my old firm. I just comment on 336 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: the work I do. Okay, Now let me ask you, 337 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: John McLaughlin, because you had an interesting memo to the 338 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: President Trump skewed media polls, and then I'll get Matt 339 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: and Scott's take on him. Tell us to give us 340 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: a summary of that. Well, the summary it's on our 341 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: website at McLaughlin Online. Dot Com and the President tweetsha, 342 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: does anyone else in your name? And also another polling 343 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: company that can confuse us even further, but go ahead, No, 344 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: not right now, but they wouldn't pay as much for 345 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: my name as Scott Gosh. So I'm sure. But the 346 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: judging from the reaction of the liberals who have attacked 347 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 1: us for this memo, like given Chris Paulo attacking us 348 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: on CNN last night, But the media has got a 349 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: in here. They're trying. They see the same enthusiasm for 350 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: the president. They see the same kind of numbers that 351 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: we've had four years ago when they were all surprised 352 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: when he won. We predicted it on your show that 353 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: he was going to win, And now you've got the 354 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: media manufacturing polls to discourage us. On Sunday, NBC puts 355 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: out a poll twenty six percent Republicans, followed by CNN 356 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: in the next day twenty five percent Republicans. What's important 357 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: about that is on election day in twenty sixteen, when 358 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: the president won election, certainly there were four points more 359 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: Democrats out there Republicans, but Republicans with thirty three percent, 360 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: And when the president gets over ninety percent of support 361 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: from Republicans every point. You've taken the presidents down in 362 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: these polls where it's adults, they pull adults represent over 363 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: two and twenty million adults in the United States who 364 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: are voting age population, but only one hundred and thirty 365 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: nine million voters, or they pulled just registered voters. They 366 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: don't scream for likely voters. So they're taking them down 367 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: seven or eight points in their polls, and they're saying, oh, 368 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: you can't win, is what he's getting blown away. And 369 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: by the way, in that memo, actually pray, CBS the 370 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: only ones that did likely voter polls and they had 371 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: they had the election, are virtually dead heat in the 372 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: country right down. So the media is playing this game 373 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: to suppress the Republican vote, to suppress the Trump voter, 374 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: and it's transparent. They did it four years ago. Now 375 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: they're just trying to do it even more than they 376 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: did four years ago. Matt Towery, you agree with that 377 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: analysis and do you agree with me that we don't 378 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: really know what the issues are going to be in 379 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty five days. Have got to believe 380 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: you know what the recovery numbers look like in the 381 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: third quarter those numbers will come out in October, just 382 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: before the November third election. I gotta believe that's going 383 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: to impact the economy. Also, you know, I think some 384 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: other issues who are emerging. I mean, you have an 385 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: entire city city blocks taken over. You see eight hundred 386 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: cops now about that number have been injured around the 387 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: country and bottles and bricks and rocks and molotov cocktails 388 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: thrown at them. We've had over twenty people die, including 389 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: police officers, in the aftermath of George Floyd's tragic death, 390 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: unnecessary death, and the shocking of the nation's conscience. Well, 391 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: first of all, I totally agree. I totally agree with 392 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: John in his analysis of these polls. We've said this 393 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: many times on the air, but I want to say 394 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: this about this election. We're at a point right now 395 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: that's very critical for the Trump campaign. Whether you agree 396 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: with these polls or not. The president is in decline. 397 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: He has been in decline since he quit holding these 398 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: updates on the coronavirus back in the middle of May. Once. 399 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: Do you believe that's real. I believe it's I don't 400 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: mean that he's in decline in the sense that he's 401 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: sent points down, but he is simply he is certainly 402 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,239 Speaker 1: taking it right now from the media. And I think 403 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: it's time the Trump campaign fight back and point out 404 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: in their paid media the critical nature of every single 405 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: thing the media does. Right now, no one's going to 406 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: say this. You can't get enough TV shows that they'll 407 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: watch that can tell everyone. The tweets can't be interpreted 408 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: by anyone because there's no one there other than you 409 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: and a few others to interpret them. There's got to 410 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: be a story laid out about the hypocrisy of saying 411 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: you can't go to church. Oh, but at the same 412 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: time you can gather in the streets and protest, and 413 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: the president can't carry a bible to a church across 414 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: the street from the White House. Come on, the hypocrisy 415 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: is unbelievable and it's over and over and over again, 416 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 1: and I think the campaign needs to start taking that 417 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: to the public so the president can begin to get 418 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: back on the right footing and then show the actions 419 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: that he's brought and the deeds that he's done that 420 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: have brought tremendous economic growth of this country stability around 421 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: the world. None of that can be heard until we 422 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: get this thing righted and only the campaign can write it. 423 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: Then imagine they add to that, I love your thoughts 424 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: on a Scott rosbusum because you know Terry mccaullough. Oh, 425 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm just fine with him being in his basement, Punker 426 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: yours these two people a day. Oh, that's a pretty 427 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: unique way to go about campaigning your thoughts. Well, you know, 428 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: first I agree with Matt. I do the president's numbers 429 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: are in decline or they have been in decline in 430 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: my last polling showed him at a forty one percent 431 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: job approval rate. But importantly, and this is something you 432 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: know your comment about, nobody knows what it's going to 433 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: be like one hundred and forty five days from now, Well, 434 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: my last poll was conducted just before the Job's report 435 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: comes out. We're in the field again right now. We'll 436 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: see how much of an impact that had. What's really 437 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: going to affect this election is the way that the 438 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: US reopens, the way the economy recovers, the way that 439 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: society recovers. If the next Job's report is better than 440 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: the last one, and the one after that is even stronger, 441 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: and we appear to be surviving without another wave of 442 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: the pandemic hitting us, all of these numbers we're talking 443 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: about today will just be ancient history because the president 444 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: will be doing very well. As for Joe Biden, yeah, 445 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: I think it's been very effective for him to have 446 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: a low profile. I think the one thing that's really 447 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: hurting him is he's not getting a chance to debate 448 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: or practice debating with anybody. Would have been much easier 449 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: to warm up with Bernie Sanders than to come out 450 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: of the basement and have to debate Donald Trump, you know, 451 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: on a national stage. I think that's going to be 452 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: a problem for him as well. So let's look at 453 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: the crystal Ball period here. Let's say, Okay, what do 454 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: we anticipate the economy is going to be. Well, you know, 455 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: they were only off in their predictions, well every prediction 456 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: and every model on coronavirus, but they're off in their predictions. Certainly, 457 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: nobody saw by eleven million. I mean, they thought it 458 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: was going to be what ten million job loss had 459 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: ended up being a net gain of two point five 460 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: million from may John McLaughlin. That certainly gives me a 461 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: lot of hope the economy's coming back. What impact does 462 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: that have if true? Well, it's good, it's a positive impact. 463 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: Like like Scott said, all these media polls that they 464 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: were in decline don't have the effect of that. Plus, 465 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: the Trump campaign did put up ads on that instantly 466 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: on Friday that rain over the past week and they 467 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: have put up adsum Brad Parscal tweet today that saying 468 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: basically that you now have Biden saying he won't he 469 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: won't stop the Democrats from defunding the police or the 470 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: fact reminding them that too. The Biden voted from Most 471 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: Favored Nations status for China, and he really helped ship 472 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of American jobs overseas. So this is 473 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: this is now going to become a contrast election, and 474 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a when you're thinking of the economy 475 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: econ our recovery. You're gonna have Donald Trump, approven jobs 476 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: creator who's fighting to suspend the payroll tax and other 477 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: things to create jobs, versus Joe Biden wants to raise 478 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: taxes and abolish the energy industry in states like Pennsylvania 479 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: that are going to cost US millions of jobs. So 480 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: this this campaign is far from decided by any stretch 481 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: because Biden is now going to come out of the 482 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: focus when we're trying to reopen the economy. And your thoughts, 483 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: Matt Towery and what you know, watching Democrats not only 484 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: botch coronavirus New York, Pennsylvania, Michigan, in the New Jersey, 485 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: then you see that, you know, we have city blocks 486 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: taken over and they can't restore order in New York, 487 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: they can't do it in Washington, they can't do it 488 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: in any of these liberal cities. And maybe add in 489 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: or factor in the decades rule of Democrats and big 490 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: cities and their failure to restore safe to create safe 491 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: cities and educational opportunities for their kids. Does that factor in? 492 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: It does, But but we've got to remember one thing, 493 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: at least for now, we don't know one hundred and 494 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 1: something days from now what we're gonna be dealing with. 495 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: Right now, Donald Trump is running not against Joe Biden, 496 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: He's running against the media, a vicious media that it 497 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: has a great example, Sean. So, we had the civil 498 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: unrest and they covered it every day, and during that 499 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: time period, no one cared about coronavirus. We were told 500 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: it's better to be in the streets protesting than it 501 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: is to worry about coronavirus. We heard it from experts. 502 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: In fact, health experts signed a letter, a thousand of 503 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: them and say better to be in the streets in coronavirus. 504 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: As soon as mister Floyd was laid to rest, and 505 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: we had elections on Tuesday, so nobody wanted to go 506 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: to the streets and be accused of messing up the election. 507 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: The next day you get up and what's the headline, 508 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: coronavirus rising primarily in all the red states and all 509 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: the interpretation. And now we're going back into a second way. 510 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: If the Trump campaign has got to take on the 511 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: media that is not telling the truth and the Democrats 512 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: who are hypocritical one day and hypocritical the next in 513 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: different directions. Right as we continue our posters, we don't 514 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: have a lot of time in this segment, but we 515 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: have Greg Jarrett, John Solomon on the Deep State, breaking 516 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: news there, John McLaughlin, my Towery, Scott Restlan is all right, 517 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: same question, and we have two minutes real quick. So 518 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: how does this play out? Based on all the years 519 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: all of you I've been doing polling, and you are 520 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: the three guys that predicted that Donald Trump would win 521 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. That's it, Not many people got that right, Scott. 522 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: The way this plays out all depends on how successfully 523 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: we reopen. I expect there is going to be a 524 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: euphoria as people. It's more than the economy. When people 525 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: get to go out again and feel like they've been 526 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: let loose from house service. There's going to be you 527 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: Fouria sweeping the nation. And as long as that happens, 528 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: and without any you know, out recurrence of the coronavirus, 529 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: the president will be reelected, and in fact, if it 530 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: goes very well, he could win a majority of the 531 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: popular vote. Okay, Matt Towery, Okay, I've said Donald Trump 532 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: would win in twenty sixteen. I've been saying it on 533 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: your show for two years. Right now, I'm undecided. Does 534 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: that tell you something? I'm concerned. So I think what 535 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: we need to do is lay of predicate downs. The 536 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: average person doesn't watch television news. The average person just 537 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: sees a little bits and snippets these voters, and until 538 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: we can get them to understand the very hypocritical and 539 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: unfair world that Donald Trump himself is living in, and 540 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: they start to understand it, we're gonna have a hard 541 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: time crawling out of this hole. And you're to take 542 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: John McLaughlin right now, it's unbelievable with the president's face, 543 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: global pandemic, unemployments of the level that you haven't seen 544 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: since the depression, and now you get dis looting and rioting. 545 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: And you know what, Donald Trump, his basis rock solid 546 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: with him. He's still with him. We're running like with 547 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: the undergo we're behind. The media is biased and they're 548 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: just showing us. That's why people have to come to 549 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: your show to get the truth. But Donald Trump, as 550 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: Scott said, as the economy recovers, as the country reopens 551 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: and they see Donald Trump fighting for them personally once again, 552 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: we can get reelected. But we can't take it for granted. 553 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: Right now we've got I don't take any election for 554 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't take any election for granted. You got to 555 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: act like you're a touchdown down on two minute drill, 556 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: no timeouts, and you need the touchdown, cross the plane 557 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: and the extra point to win. That's how I feel. 558 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: All right, twenty five now until the top of the hour, 559 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy four day until election day, and 560 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: we have some fake news CNN polling that has come 561 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: out here and we see that well, according to them, 562 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: and they always over polled Democrats over Republicans. They say 563 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: Biden has a lead over Trump at five points. Trump 564 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: has an edge in the critical battleground states that could 565 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: decide the electoral College. For CNN to admit this is 566 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: a battle cry, and trust me, they did not want 567 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: to admit this. We know who they are, we know 568 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: that they're not to be trusted. But if it's fifty 569 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: one forty six, and the President's been going up in 570 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: every poll recently. I saw polls yesterday they were dead even. 571 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: But in the again, in the swing states, Trump has 572 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: the edge. And you got to remember during these elections, 573 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: what do I always say for a Republican to win, 574 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: You got to thread the needle. You gotta win Florida, 575 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: you gotta win Ohio. You got to pick up Georgia's demographics, 576 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: a change in North Carolina. Demographics are changing Texas, they're 577 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: trying to change who did I read. I guess it 578 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: was Mike Bloomberg spending millions to try and flip Texas blue. 579 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: Then you've got to pick up Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, 580 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: some combination therein. You got to make a play out 581 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: on the West coast for Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona is 582 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: always ziffy at times. New Hampshire the second district of 583 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: Congressional District Domain. Anyway, according to this, if you look at, 584 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: for example, where they are, if Trump's biggest advantage in 585 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: the poll comes over his handling of the economy, fifty 586 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: four percent trust the president to better handle the nation's economy. 587 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: Forty two prefer Biden. If you compare their records, which 588 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: will happen in the next one hundred and seventy four days, 589 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: it will be interesting to watch. This is a joke. 590 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: This question. Voters divide over the two which who has 591 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: the best sharpness and stamina to be president? From forty 592 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: ninety six. I'm not sure who the forty six percent is, 593 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: but that forty six percent scares me. If you look 594 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: at the swing states which matter the most, that's where 595 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: you see that the president has the bigger advantage. But 596 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if we can pull anything accurately at 597 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: this point in time. That's why we have our posters. 598 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: John McLaughlin, Matt Towery, Scott Rasmussen, Scott, I didn't see 599 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: your poll today. Where's your poll today? Well, right now, 600 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: we actually show the overall numbers very close to where 601 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: CNN's top line is. We have Joe Biden up by 602 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: six points among registered voters, but those who are most 603 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: interested in the election are more enthusiastic about the president. 604 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: And so what that tells me is if the election 605 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: was held the day, we would be talking about three states, Pennsylvania, Michigan, 606 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: and Wisconsin. I'm skeptical of the CNN poll show the 607 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: president up by seven in those states, partly because it's 608 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 1: got to be a really small sample, you know, so 609 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: it's not worth paying a lot of attention to. But 610 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: the reality, you know, you outlined it. The president has 611 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: to win Florida, he has to win Ohio, and he 612 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: has to do well in a couple of these other states. Ultimately, 613 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: more than any of these particular polls about what the 614 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: race looks like today, it's how we reopen America that 615 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: will determine this presidential election. I've been saying, as Matt 616 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: Towery to friends now for a while, what likely, what 617 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: likely will be the driving force that ultimately determines victory. 618 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: That event probably has not happened yet, and I think 619 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: a lot of it. America is about to be shocked 620 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: to the core with second quarter numbers, and that would 621 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: be April May June numbers GDP numbers that are going 622 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: to be a disaster. We all know that the country 623 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: is shut down. I don't think the president gets the 624 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: credit he deserves for the largest and fastest medical mobilization 625 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: in the history of the world, where and he bailed 626 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: out states like New York because they were totally ill prepared. 627 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: Then I look at these main states that Scott's talking about, 628 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: and where do you where do you see it at 629 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: this point? Well, I see a couple of things. For 630 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: one thing, Sean, I think I don't have the actual 631 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: evidence right now, but I can tell you intuitively that 632 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: in states such as New York, California, some of the 633 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,959 Speaker 1: other states in the northeast where of course New York's 634 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: probably an exception because they had such a tough time, 635 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: but let's say Pennsylvania is a good example. The frustration 636 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: among these voters and these people who can't get back 637 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: out and can't start their businesses up again is growing 638 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: every single day. I'm in Florida. Florida has been a 639 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: great job. The people down here are the rest in 640 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: the country. It's it's been incredible, and quite frankly, he 641 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: gives them credit to Brian Kemp and Georgia. Georgia opened 642 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: early and they're doing well. Also, I'm falling on the sword. 643 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: I was very skeptical of how you can open up 644 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: Salon until I saw the plexiglass and the social distancing 645 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 1: and the masks worn and the gloves worn, and I said, wow, 646 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: that's going to work well. His problem was one of messaging. 647 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: He talked about tattoo parlers and so that was just 648 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: a mistake. But what has happened in these red states 649 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: is that they are opening, their infection rates are not 650 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: increasing substantially, unlike what we were told would happen. There 651 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: may be some hotspots, will wait and see, but there's 652 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: a big difference between the Red states that seemed to 653 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: be happily opening up and keeping the economy going and 654 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: these blue states where I believe their voters are becoming 655 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: increasingly frustrated, and you get a marginal state like of Pennsylvania, 656 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 1: this will blow in Trump's direction in the end. That's 657 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: my opinion. What do you think, John McLaughlin, I don't 658 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: think I think the media was exaggerating. They wanted to 659 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: hope that the President was in big trouble and they 660 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: were using the crisis against them. But the reality of 661 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: this is the President has been very steady and he's 662 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: and the polls that are out there that are reliable, 663 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: they've had a very close regardless and most Americans we're 664 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: watching what's going on as far as the economic recovery, 665 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: have the President keeps US open safely and reopens America. 666 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: And now by Joe Biden's emerging. So the idea that 667 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: Joe Biden might be coming out of the basement. I mean, 668 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: he's a very weak candidate for the Democrats and there's 669 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: no enthusiasm. Let's look at the results in elections that 670 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: many people didn't pay attention to, and that is the 671 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 1: California twenty fifth district, which I found very very interesting, 672 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: and the Wisconsin seventh victory by Republicans has all happened yesterday, 673 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: this guy Mike Garcia taking over Katie Hill's spot. It 674 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 1: looks like in Congress in that district, the twenty fifth district, 675 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: it's the first Republican in twenty two years to claw 676 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: back a seat from the Democrats in California. And it's 677 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 1: interesting because even Gavin Newsom tried to open up everything 678 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: else's clothes, but he opened up new polling places just 679 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: to help in democratic, more democratic parts of the district. 680 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: What do you make of those two victories, because my 681 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: interpretation is is that whatever momentum Democrats might have had 682 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen would be gone. Scott, you know, Sean, 683 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, when you talk about these things, I always 684 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: offer the caution that people attach too much excitement to 685 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: special elections. But these do cut against the narrative that 686 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: somehow this is all a disaster for the president and 687 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: for the Republicans. Something is going on out there. Matt 688 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: mentioned people who are anxious to get back out to work. 689 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: We did a poll the other day and found that 690 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: sixty percent of voters six out of ten believe that 691 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: all businesses should be allowed to reopen now as long 692 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: as they practice some safety protocols. Only twenty six percent 693 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: or opposed. This is not the narrative we're hearing. I 694 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: think that's feeding into some of these special election results, 695 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's a larger problem for the 696 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: Democrats in the sense that we are not able to 697 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: sustain these lockdowns. They are not a popular response, and 698 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: there is no plan in some of the debt. I 699 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: live in New York City. There's no plan here to 700 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 1: reopen the city anytime soon, and that is a problem 701 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: in creating increasing levels of frustration. So I think if 702 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: you begin to look at the dynamics of I think 703 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: we've passed the tipping point. Voters are saying, okay, a 704 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: week or two of a lockdown may have been okay 705 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: to get us past the initial surge of this. Certainly 706 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: in New York it was. It was well received. But 707 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: now let's get back to the business of making America work. 708 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: And I think people are looking to a different kind 709 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 1: of leadership for that. We have a couple of issues 710 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: from emerging on Biden. One is he's recruiting aoc Casio 711 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: Cortez to serve on a climate change panel, and he's 712 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: working with Bernie Sanders. He said John McLaughlin number two 713 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: on Monday with George Stephanopolos, Biden denied any knowledge of 714 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: the Flynn case. And then it turns out today that 715 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: he was one of the people that requested the unmasking 716 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: of General Flynn on eight days before he left office 717 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: as Vice president. That might be a problem for him. 718 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: His problems with China and his problems with you know, 719 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: promising illegal immigrants a pathway a citizenship and even suggesting 720 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: that Obama, you know, he regretted what they did in 721 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: the Obama years to illegal immigrants. Yeah, I mean, this 722 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: is what I mentioned before. Now Joe Biden is the Kennedy. 723 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: The Democrats are finding out about him, and there's there's 724 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: gonna be buyer's remorse among the Democrats because there's no 725 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: enthusiasm for him. And when you asked Folds, do you 726 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: want him to be the one to lead to help 727 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: the economy recover? No way. You want him to do 728 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: the one to help prevent the spread of coronavirus. No. 729 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: And the President Trump is getting the credit for what's 730 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: being done. And in California, which is a real election 731 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: and the first time in decades that we flipped the 732 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: seat from Democrat to a bubblagan in California, they basically 733 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: the mayor held up announcing that he was going to 734 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 1: shut the city of La down until August. He held 735 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,439 Speaker 1: that till right, you know, just when it's too late 736 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: that the voters are react. And as of today, the 737 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: last numbers I saw, Garcia was up by twelve points 738 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: it's not even called so Donald Trump is the way 739 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: to get elected in an He never Trump was. He 740 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: wanted to distance himself, making a big mistake. I don't 741 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: see that. I mean, Biden is sheltering him place Scott 742 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: and every time he goes on and does one of 743 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: his stupid virtual town halls, he looks dumber than the 744 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: last one. Even this week, another disaster my aunt and 745 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 1: he walks to the camera, takes off his aviator sunglasses. 746 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it just looks so contrived and fake and phony. 747 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: And this guy, he's not been pushed, he's not been 748 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: stretched at all or challenged in any way, and he 749 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: seems to do best when he's hiding. At some point, 750 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: doesn't he have to come out of his basement? Well, 751 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: at some point you will have to come out of 752 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: his basements. And the notion, I can't even imagine what 753 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: a debate between the two candidates will look like in 754 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 1: terms of energy level, in terms of focusing on issues 755 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: and everything else. You know, Look, there is John mentioned 756 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: Buyer's remorse. Thirty five percent of voters say it's still 757 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: at least somewhat likely Biden is going to be replaced 758 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 1: as the nominee and that includes twenty eight percent of Democrats. 759 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: That speaks to a tremendous lack of in caseinee. That 760 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: raises the question do you think he gets replaced? Do 761 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: you think there's a chance, Scott Rasmussen, then, Matt ben John, 762 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: it is a difficult thing to replace him for one reason. 763 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: That reason is Bernie Sanders, because a lot of Democrats say, oh, 764 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: we need somebody like or Cuomo or whoever else. If 765 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: you take the nomination away from Joe Biden and do 766 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: not give it to Bernie Sanders, the Bernie brothers are 767 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: just going to just leave and create a civil war 768 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: within the Democratic Party. So I don't think it's going 769 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: to happen, but I think it's going to be an 770 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 1: ongoing issue. Matt. What if Jill Biden's Jill, his wife 771 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: says well, you know, I just don't think my husband's 772 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: up to it. What happens, then I think it becomes 773 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: a shift show. Well, I think it would be a 774 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: method that you know, Scott makes a very good point 775 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: about the Bernie Sanders group, but probably the deft way 776 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: for them to do it would be for Biden to 777 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: get the nomination and after he gets the nomination at 778 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: some point there quickly there after have to bow out. 779 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 1: Then your vice presidential nominee would likely become your presidential nominee, 780 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,760 Speaker 1: and that person is going to be an Obama approved person. 781 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that. So that's probably the only 782 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: way they could pull it off. And I know there 783 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: are a lot of rules in DNC I don't know about. 784 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm not sure they could do it prior to that, 785 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 1: and maybe they can do it after that. I do 786 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: think this though, I think that Biden is going to 787 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: increasingly get right now. The public's not focused, Scott. We're 788 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: worried about a pandemic. We're worried about our own livelihood 789 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: and our safety. When we start focusing on these candidates 790 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: and they really see how weak Biden is, that's when 791 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: the Democrats are going to start to really panic. What 792 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: do you think John could have happen? I don't think so, because, 793 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: as Scott already mentioned, if they try to take it 794 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 1: away from Biden, he won't have the delegates to like 795 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,720 Speaker 1: June third, But if they try to take it away, 796 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,720 Speaker 1: Bernie's going to demand it. And the reason they replaced 797 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: Bernie with Biden was because they thought that Sanders would 798 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: lose to Trump, and now they're going to find themselves. 799 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's going to be Remember they put up yeah, well, 800 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: I mean if they pull that, I can imagine the 801 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: Bernie people losing their minds. Although you know what, I 802 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: think I was more upset at what had happened to 803 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders in twenty sixteen than Bernie was. But anyway, well, 804 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: thank you both, Thank you all. Matt Terry, John McLachlin, 805 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 1: Scott Rasmussen will continue to follow the polls as they 806 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: go