WEBVTT - THROWBACK: Will Smith & Martin Lawrence Talk ‘Bad Boys’ Trilogy, Growth, Regrets + More 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:05.240 Wait that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club Morning. 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:09.320 Everybody is DJ Envy Angela, Ye, Charlomagne the guy. We 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:11.520 are the Breakfast Club. And we got some legends in 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:17.360 the building, icons living wenute this time, we really he said, 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:22.840 special guests a lot. It's a little different icons, right. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.960 We have Will Smith and Martin Lawrence absolutely rock them 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:30.120 around him my glass and god damn it, they boys. 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:34.200 And we didn't Martin so dirty. No, we didn't do nothing. 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:39.680 Stuck in the elevator, I said, what's going on here? Now? 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:41.560 Did you check the way capacity? Martin? How many people 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.360 was on the elevator with you? It was a lot 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:45.839 of people. That's what I'm saying. I've never seen an 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.880 entourage like this from anybody. We have a lot of rappings, 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.199 but what you're talking about on the elevator, I just 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:58.320 told him, nobody don't find please, don't do that. That 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:00.000 the worst when you're an elevator with people you don't know, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.840 because you gotta make small talk and yeah, you know, 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:07.119 I'd be like, hey, how you doing? Yeah, yeah, oh 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.920 what's that? Oh no, you're just happy to see me. 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.840 So you guys are brothers. You've done movies, your friends. 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:16.520 I want to start. I just want to ask you 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.119 guys a question. What's the craziest gift that you guys 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.759 received from each other? If anything, craziest gift. And I'm 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.039 gonna tell you why in the second guy craziest gifts 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.839 because it's Martin. That's right, it's Martin inspired. Craziest gift 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.920 we got you give me just off golf clubs? Yeah 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:36.559 you never you didn't swing on one time? He not 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:38.399 not really, I don't go out there, no, I golf. 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:40.080 But I was like trying to get him because like 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.000 if you played any sport in your life, once you 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.240 get to a certain age, you know you're not gonna 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.680 be running ball. You know, got you so, But like golf, 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.240 you get to you know, set your friends and you 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:52.800 get to do you know, you get all of the 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.760 same kind of energy from golf, except you can do 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.520 it till you eighty. Got you. I was trying to 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.200 have Marty mar but yeah, yeah, he ain't take to it. 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:11.040 Still at least I have the club yet. So it's 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:14.600 this disrespectful right, So this is what Charlotta maagne my brother, 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.320 I guess you can call him that got me for Christmas. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:25.720 It's right behind you, right, I mean, listen, Oh, Gina 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:29.240 got Martin something like this, Wow, you know what I mean? 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:33.359 My wife is a little upset you got you know? 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.360 I mean, is that little disrespectful? The word I'm just asking. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:40.000 I mean, here's the deal you I don't I don't judge, 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.959 but by the cover. But what was the thinking? What 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.560 would you he always going for? He called me his 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:51.920 favorite asshole of time. Oh got it from yes, have 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.120 it at home to be reminded of the level of 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:59.679 antsholdness that he has to deal with. So yeah, that's 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.720 not like, yeah, we don't. We don't send each other 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:11.120 that kind everything that the whole boy. Let people smack 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.320 it when they walk in. That's so bad boys. Now, 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.320 why did it take so long to put this out 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:20.200 and get this done? This? No, it had to be 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:25.320 right man, it's um you know what the first bad Boys? Uh? 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.799 What it meant for the culture? You know what I mean? 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.920 It was like it was at a time, you know, 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.239 the height of Martin and the height of Fresh Prince 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.080 and we came together and made this movie and it 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:41.280 was like it was an important moment, you know, for 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.000 for the culture at that point. It was Eddie, you know, 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.680 Eddie was the black dude that was holding it down, 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.400 and then we came together and created something. And then 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.560 we got to the second and I just didn't want 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.200 to mess it up. You know, It's like, I don't 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.680 want to do a cash grab. You know, everybody's doing sequels, 0:03:57.720 --> 0:03:59.480 Let's do one. I was like, no, if we're gonna 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.880 make a Bad Boys a third one, it has to 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:06.320 be deservant. There has to be messages and ideas. We 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.000 got to be talking about something and it's not just 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.960 you know, blowing some stuff up and and you know, 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:16.039 getting paid. I'm not confronted. Was leary because the first 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.680 or second one, you guys are doing stunts, You're driving 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:27.839 through thres your breathing. Will just said they played golf 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.599 because and I'm gonna be running around. Yeah, yeah, trying 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.720 to switch it, to switch it up a little bit. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:38.320 But though in this one, yeah, we start we use them. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:43.240 Yeah yeah, and it's different. Also, there's different technologies and 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.880 stuff like that, so you can do stunts up to 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.200 a certain point. What we didn't have in the first 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:52.920 movie was face replacement. They do face replacement, so you 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:56.720 can I can do a stunt, right, and then they 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.599 have the stunt man do the exact stunt that I 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.960 did it, and they can match it and they can 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.039 replace my face on the stunt man. Wow. Right, So 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.480 they can just do it, so they can hold a 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.680 single shot, but they can use the actual face of 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.640 the actor and you can't tell the difference in the stunt. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.480 So you get to do as much as you or 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:19.760 as little as you want. You know, you didn't used 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:24.240 to be able to do that. Yeah, no, no, that's yeah, 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.919 that's speaking of budgets. How does money work in a 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.680 situation like this? Yeah, y'all get equal pay or you know, 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:33.440 because there was a rumor that you was making like 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:37.800 ten million dollars more than Martin Nole. Okay, well we've 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.279 been we've been talking for four minutes. You don't go 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:48.480 to that ship interview, you know, as we finished your 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:55.120 we done. As we get ready for this movie. Though, 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.360 you do research on how Bad Boys started, and I 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.719 was reading that it was originally intended for John Lovitt 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.440 and Dana Carvey. Yeah, yeah, they were the original Bad Boys. 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:10.000 So how did you guys end up? Script came to me. Um, 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:13.080 they presented it to me first, and then they wanted 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:14.960 me to pick somebody to co star with me in 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:19.920 the movie. And my sister Ray brought Will's uh attention 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.919 to me, and so won't you do it? Well? And 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:24.640 I thought about it, so I called it was like 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:28.120 a fresh prince. I thought about it. I called, well, 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.040 I said, let's set up a dinner, and Will came 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.160 to my house and we had a dinner, and after 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.200 five minutes of talking to him, the rest is history. Man. 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.840 You know, I couldn't say no, Yeah, now we had 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.520 we literally it's one of those things you know, and 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.479 you know, you know how important it is in a 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.320 situation like this. Staff chemistry, right, you know, somebody picks 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.640 up right when you you know, you go in and 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:52.159 you you create a chemistry. The second we sat down, 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.800 it was there, and you know it was it was 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:59.080 so perfect that we knew that we wanted to work together. 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:02.160 We yeah, man, we had met, but we didn't we 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.360 didn't really know each other. Like The Bad Boys was 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.560 the first time we actually uh you know, sat down 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:11.520 and chopped it up. And you know it's you can't 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.800 you can't fake and you can't buy chemistry. You can't 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.640 buy chemistry. It's like you either got it with somebody 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.320 or you don't, and you know me and this one 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.200 right here, it's like there's so much love and so 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:27.800 much respect for each other that and it's just fun 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:31.200 to watch, you know, with people that really vibe like that. 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.000 He never looked at it like you watched the Early 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:35.440 Fresh Prince and he was used to I don't know 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.000 if you remember, I used to say his lines right 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.120 before you, never looking none of that stuff, be like, 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:44.680 you know what, I don't know about this. I Will 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.800 does great work, you know. And I thought he was 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:51.120 great on the Fresh Prints and his energy, the energy brings. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.400 So I just was excited to work with m. I 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:57.280 was jealous as hell. I was jealous as hell of Martin. Really, yeah, 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.680 being honest, who got who had the better sit It's 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:05.160 I think that's a matter of as hell. That's a 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.520 tough one. We had the best. Yeah, we're gonna call it. 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.680 We donna call at a time. We don't call at 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:15.480 any time. You know. I just figured out what I'm 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:21.800 gonna get you for, figured out what I'm It's something 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:30.360 that you are. Now let me ask you guys, you 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.200 watch your sitcoms like because they come out all the time. 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.880 So I'll be home watching I was watching Biggie Martin 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:37.880 the other day. I was watching Queen Latifa I'm the 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.960 First Prince the other day and you look back at 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.680 and you're like, damn, these people are like became so 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.720 huge even after that. The great thing about a TV 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.200 show when you do something every week, you get a 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:53.360 real chance to like try people out and put people on. Um, 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.720 you know. So you know, we Queen Latifa, you know, 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.400 we've been friends for forever, but on The Fresh Prince 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.360 she was like, Yo, I think I'm gonna try acting. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.480 So we were able to set it up on The 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:06.959 Fresh Prince for her to make her acting debut on 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.160 the show. So it's like when you when you have 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.440 something like that, it's like a gym. You know, you 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.040 get to train and you get to work out and 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.920 you get to have you know, people come through. So 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.319 it was you know, for me, that was one of 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.560 the best parts of it to be able to meet 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.160 people and you know, you have a week to work 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.760 stuff out and and you know, did you find the 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:29.440 same Yeah. I love putting all the hip hop artists on, 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.240 you know, because that's what I represented, hip hop. So 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.080 I had a lot of fun with it, and uh 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.280 just everybody that came on. We had a lot of fun. Well, 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.320 you know, we'll always thought about the scene with you 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.040 and uh, the late great James Avery. Yeah, when your 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.960 your father left. Yeah, man, what did you dig into 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:48.640 to get that kind of emotion out of that thing? 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.440 Because even now if you watch that your eyes watching, 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:55.120 I'm still yeah, and it's like, um, James Avery. Man, 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.520 it was like so every everybody on The Fresh Prince 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.440 was stage trained acting, you know. So it was like 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:08.720 Alfonso starting the show had fifteen years of experience coming in, 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:12.120 so I was the least experience. The tap dance kid, yeah, 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.079 you know, moon walking into Michael Jackson. You know. So 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.600 when when I when I came on to the show, Um, 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:20.920 James Avery was one of the first people that pulled 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:22.840 me up, and he was like, hey, you know you 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.280 got you you have real talent, don't squander it, right, 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:30.200 And so he never liked nothing. You didn't like nothing 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.120 I did, right, And I was always trying to get 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:37.640 his approval. You know, Shakespearean trained, big command of his voice, 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.600 he you know, his body as an instrument as a performer, 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.480 and you know, so in that scene, it was like 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.040 the first time that I took a real dramatic shot 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.360 and h James Avery in that scene and we're doing 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.439 it and I'm and I'm I'm trying to get there 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.120 and I want to impress him so bad and the 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:56.760 first time in front of the audience, I missed it 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.559 and I messed the scene up, and I'm like, fuck, 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.000 and I'm losing it in front of the audience, you know, 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:07.559 And he looks it. Hey, I snapped in and he's 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.360 look was pointed. He's like, use me, use me in 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.839 this scene. And we get and he said get it together, 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.240 and I settled down. He said action, and we get 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.559 and then ultimately we did the scene and we had 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.160 the scene that was there and I'm holding him and 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.679 when I'm holding him, he whispers in my ear. Now 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:30.640 that's fucking acting, right, And I was like, but you 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.719 had to tell you tapped into disappointment, right, Yeah, you 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.079 disappointed him, yes, and no, But that's what he was 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:39.160 telling me about how to use the actor in the scene. 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.360 He was like, use me, don't try to find it 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.280 in you. So then when I tapped into the idea 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.080 of how bad I wanted to impress him and how 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.640 I'm I'm getting in I'm I'm feeling it now. It's 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:53.160 like when when you have those um emotional tool boxes, 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:57.200 sometimes you slip into them. I can feel um that 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.360 that emotion right now. And it was like, um, it 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:05.280 was he was the father figure that Uh, Will felt like. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:08.480 Will me personally felt like I was disappointing him in 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.280 that scene. So I tapped into that and I used 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:15.440 my relationship with James Avery to find that emotion. But 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.320 you know, for me, it's been it's been a massive 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:23.760 uh acting journey, hugely on the back of his teachings 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.840 and his his urging of me to always go deeper. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.040 How did you guys both get those shows? You know? 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.240 And Will? Did you feel like I'm a rapper from Philly? 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:37.480 If I crossover, I might destroy my career? And how 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.480 did you get into How did they give you that show? 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.640 How did that that show come together? Well? For me, 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.720 my manager at the time was his name was Top 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.679 of carew. He took me into HBO Hip and they 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.800 had it was called hip at the time. It was 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:57.000 a what did they parent company? And Uh he took 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.480 me in to meet Chris Albreak and he was like, Yo, 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.600 you know this guy's funny and what you think about 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.760 giving them as his own show. So Chris was like, 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.520 all right, we'll try it out. So I was like, 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:12.280 just like that. He's like, yeah, I tried it out, 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:16.360 and I was like, oh shit, rests history. Wow, that 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.200 was big back then, especially for a black man. What 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:20.960 a kind of show it was. Yeah, for you to 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:26.439 be a hip hop dude doing the shows. Yeah, yeah, 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.560 And I did all them characters because I really want 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.240 to show to work, you know, and that I didn't 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.559 want it to fail. So I just started doing all 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.840 these characters to try to push it, to push it, 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:38.120 to push it. You know what. I want to ask 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:39.960 you why we live in this era of like pause 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.520 and you know rapper saying no homo when you was 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.240 doing and you was doing scenes like all upon kids, 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.240 did you ever get backlash back then from your people, 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.280 because now they for guy did that, he'd be like, pause, 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.040 you know what I mean? Back then? This funny it 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:57.120 does it's just funny. You just like, no, I just 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:58.800 want to make people laugh. I just want to make 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.720 people laugh. That was it was each character, that was it. 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.080 Martin did um well. Has he tried to get you 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:08.200 to be more active on social media? Yes, and yet 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:14.120 he gave me a camera. Use this. You have a 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:19.920 camera team everywhere? Are you considering get jumping into because 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.040 you see Will, it's been so effective for you, Like 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:24.920 we don't know as much about you now like as 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:26.640 we do about well, well we didn't used to know 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.960 as much, but it seems like you like it now. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:30.960 I love it? Right, So you think that would be 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.080 something I'm trying to do more things. You know, I'm 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.960 trying to be more creative. This guy has a creative mind, 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.480 so he's always on there. But I'm trying to find 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.200 things I could do and bring to the people. So 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.720 no jumping out the playing for you more? No, no 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:50.400 jumping out more swimming with shock? Why Will not? So 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.720 here's what happens. So here's what Here's what happened. Not weird? 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:57.960 Is this why it's family? Well? No, So what happened 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.520 was um and it's funny because it was. It was 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.240 something like you know, I've been watching you for a 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.120 while and it's something that I wanted to talk to 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:08.280 you about that Will dive into it offline. But the 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:13.800 idea for me is, um, I painted myself into a 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:19.200 corner with Will Smith, right, and I realized that you know, 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.400 we all we have our childhood traumas and we have 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.840 our experiences, and then we all create these characters that 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.280 are going to be our characters that defend us in 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.000 the world. There's certain things we can't do to, certain 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.520 things we say, can't say, certain ways we react. If 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:36.320 people do something something and we create a character that 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:40.640 we go out into the world with, then that character 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.680 wins some things for us. It's like, oh, we succeed 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:48.680 by behaving this way. Then what happens You get to 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.080 a point where it stops working as well, and the 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:56.240 reason that it stops working because it's not true, it's 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:59.760 not really who you are. And then you get back 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.800 to to a corner it stops working. Now the question 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.120 is are you gonna be courageous enough and are you 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:11.240 gonna be brave enough to kill essentially the character that 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.360 you've created, and are you gonna have the courage to 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.520 live as who you really are? And on my fiftieth 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:20.440 birthday when I jumped out of that that helicopter over 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:24.120 the Grand Canyon, that was kind of my moment for 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.680 myself where I was like, I'm gonna be who I 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:30.120 am even if it isn't in line with the Will 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.920 Smith that people think I'm supposed to be. I'm gonna 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.600 have the courage and I'm gonna have the the the 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:39.440 bravery to be who I am, you know. And it's like, 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.760 I've been watching you for a while, and that's what 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:43.280 I was. I was like, that was one of the 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.240 things I wanted to talk to you about. I can 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:51.320 see the the mechanism happening in your mind. You're seeing 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.840 Charlemagne the god as separate from you, absolutely, And I 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:56.320 was like, and I was like, I want to I 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.000 want I can see. I looked at a little bit 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.120 of your book too, and I was like, you know, 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.280 I want you to know who you really are is 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:08.520 enough that the character can die because always I never 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.200 wanted to be a character to your money, right, Yeah, 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:11.600 you know what I'm saying. And I just read us 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.399 reading this book called The Unapologetically The Unapologetic Guy in 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.720 the Black Mental Health and the woman readA Walker said 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.640 we have to be willing to let go of who 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.800 we want people to think. Yeah, exactly, And that's that 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.359 was the thing for me, um Me and Jay to 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.800 talk about that a lot, you know, even in the 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:31.920 the the idea of our marriage and how people want 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.840 us to be married versus how we're really married, you 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.840 know what I mean. It's like it's a really different thing. 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:41.760 And it's so hard to let go of the characters 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.440 people and what people want to see. And because also 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.919 those characters saved your life when you were young. Yes, 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.440 those ideas saved your life and made your money, and 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:55.160 they made you money, you know, so letting go of 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.800 that and having the courage to really be who you 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:02.080 are in the world. And it's it's like, it's terrified. 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:09.680 Will should be a motivational not One of your closest 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:11.520 friends called you, right and he's a close friend to 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.159 us as well. He called you and he asked you 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.040 for a couple million, and you gave it to him. No, 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:24.399 did not happen. Tyrese called millions like no, you know, 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.120 let me tell you something. Me and Tyrese, Uh, we've 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.800 been friends. He's out God, No, No, that's my dude. 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:33.840 Tyrese is my dude. It's like, uh, Tyrese calls me 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.400 when he don't he don't want the he don't want 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.919 it cut. He wanted raw and uncut. And you know, 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:44.360 the the the amount of talent that that dude has 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.240 in all the possibilities that Tyrese has is what I 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:52.720 keep drumming in with him. Tyrese is functioning at forty 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.840 percent of the capacity of what he really is, you know, 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.080 And that's another thing, being brave enough to be who 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:03.560 you really are versus you know, being Tyrese. Exactly right, 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:08.000 I'm about to say that ain't got to that left. Yeah, 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:10.119 you know, and we all do you know, they're still 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.560 it's like, well, Will Smith takes good care of me. 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.360 Will Smith takes good care of me. It's just he's 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.280 it's not all the way met you. You know, there's 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:22.440 a there, there's uh, there's a certain amount of of 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:25.639 of pretense and in authenticity that it takes to hold 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.000 up the character. That's so fucking interest because I think 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.080 about that with you and Martin. Martin, I'm sure that 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:31.439 it was a time where everybody wanted you to be 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:37.639 like my you know, but if that's not you, yeah, what, 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:40.119 it's not me all the time? Like people think that 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:41.800 I'm on all the time when they see me, to 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.639 think I'm all I'm always gonna be joking all that, 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.360 But I'm probably a lot more shy in person than 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:51.879 I am. You can't be shy, don't believe, believe not, 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:53.720 believe it or not. I don't. I don't joke all 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.639 the time. I don't talk all the time. I like 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.399 to listen a lot, and uh, just take things in that, 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.159 you know, I'm not wanted to think. This dude is 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:05.359 one of the most authentic people that I have ever met, 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.280 you know, and you know, with his life experiences and 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:11.879 with the thing, Martin is as close to one hundred 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.480 percent authentic as anybody I've ever met. It's no bullshit 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:22.960 than with this dude. You know, Thank you. I want 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.280 you to explain the you talked about it on Crown 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:26.880 South to Ellie Wilson. I want you to talk about 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:30.320 the Reggie scene and bad boys, right, because you know 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:32.320 I'm a fall the five, right, but growing up, I'm like, 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:33.880 if I have a dude I'm doing the same day, 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.960 explain that to people who haven't heard and how that 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:41.359 whole situation happened. So with Reggie, so he was he 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:43.280 was a young actor, he had never done anything, so 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.159 it was his first role. So Michael Bay was concerned 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.680 that he wouldn't be able to perform the level of 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.840 discomfort that we needed for the scene. So Michael Bay 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:54.959 was like, yo, don't don't talk to him. Talk to him, 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.879 he said, I want y'all to be like, pretend like 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:00.600 y'all are aren't argue and pretend like you're not getting on. 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:02.320 I just want to get him, get him riled up, 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:04.280 you know. So I go and I sit down with 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:07.080 the kids. So it's first meeting Well and Martin. So 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.680 I'm sitting down, I'm talking, I'm talking, and then Martin 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:12.040 comes up and uh he says, hey, will you know 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:14.760 you're stepping on my lines a little bit in the scene. 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:16.240 I need you to leave a little bit of room 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:18.760 so I can, you know, get my line in there. 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:20.720 And I was like, you need to get in where 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.919 you fit in. And the kid, a little kid is 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:25.800 sitting there. He's like, oh no. Martin was like, yo, 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:28.240 why why are you acting like that? Man? I'm like, 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.840 why I'm acting? Like what why I'm acting like And 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:34.080 me and Martin start arguing in front of the kid, 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:37.879 and this kid is sitting there like. Michael Bay is 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:39.760