1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:03,519 Speaker 1: Get your hand us together and we're going to start 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: to party. 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 2: Start. 4 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 3: I'm ready to party. 5 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: See Elvis Duran after party. 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 4: So long ago, we were talking on the show about 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 4: these Japanese scientists that have figured something out that is 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 4: just mind blowing. 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: What remind everyone what it is? Gandhi? 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: So Japanese researchers developed a technique using blue light and 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: what they call optogenics to be able to go into 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: your brain and selectively weaken or erase completely very specific memories. 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 3: Okay. 14 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 4: So I have Gerald here who texted in when we 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 4: were talking about that. Hi, Jerald, how you doing. 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm doing good? How are you guys doing? 17 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: Okay? 18 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 4: And I know that this conversation may be a bit 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 4: touchy for you, but I'm so I'm glad that you're 20 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 4: on with us. 21 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: So if you could have one of. 22 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 4: These Japanese scientists go into your brain and somehow erase 23 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 4: a memory, would you do it? We had a back 24 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 4: and forth on it. Some of us thought, well, they'd 25 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 4: be great to erase a memory. Then some people said, no, 26 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 4: there's some memories, as awful as they are, we need 27 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 4: to hold on to because what makes us who we are. 28 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: Do you want to tell your story and your your 29 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: thoughts on this. 30 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, about five years ago, I had the 31 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: unpleasure experience of watching my wife pass away in my arms. 32 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: And it's not just me, it's my daughter, who was 33 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: ten at the time, and my son who was five 34 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: at the time. Those memories haunt us every single day. 35 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: I don't sleep at night until after I know the 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: ambulance took her body. Every night, I get up at two, 37 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: I stay up until three thirty, and I got to 38 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: be at work at four. Wow. 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: To this day, from still this is still gyrating through 40 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: your head and through your heart. And it's just it's 41 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: every day something something you just conquer. 42 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: And I know that if it's this hard for me 43 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: and I have to be strong for my kids, I 44 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: can't imagine what they go through. Sorry. If someone could 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: take that away from them, I would love it. 46 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 4: So you're thinking, as their father, you would want to 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 4: make a decision where they had some sort of whatever 48 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 4: this technique is to erase those moments from their their lives. 49 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: They know their mom passed away, but the things they 50 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: saw that night, I would take it away from him 51 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: in a heartbeat. 52 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: Wow, oh god, you know being a being a mom, Danielle, 53 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: do you is there anything you want to say about this? 54 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 5: I mean you, anything that your kids go through that 55 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 5: you know that they're going through in a bad way, 56 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 5: you would want to take away from them no matter 57 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 5: what and put it even put it on yourself, even 58 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 5: if it's a terrible thing you you'd rather you go 59 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 5: through it than they go through it. So this is 60 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 5: probably one of the worst things they ever have to 61 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 5: go through. So I can't even imagine how you feel 62 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 5: knowing that they're going through that constantly. 63 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: You know, I just and that's the issue. I would 64 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: take it all day long if I knew that I 65 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: could take it away from them. 66 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 5: Yeah. 67 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: Let me ask you a quick question. Gerald. Let's say 68 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: how old is your daughter. 69 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 4: Now, she's fifteen, Okay, Let's say one day she's twenty five, 70 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: and you to sit down and have a conversation about 71 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 4: what happened to her mom, your wife, and how you 72 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: had decided it would be best for her if you 73 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: just had this memory taken away, because it's you couldn't bear, 74 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: as their father to. 75 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: Know that she's going through that painful moment over and 76 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: over like you do. What if she looked at you 77 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: and said dad, Why did you do that? But I 78 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: don't understand. You took that memory away from me, and 79 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like I need to have it. 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: And look, how would you explain to her, like this 81 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: was for your good, this is for your own good. 82 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: I would sit her down. My daughter has she's not 83 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: the normal fifteen year old. She's gone through so much 84 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: that she's so mature and I'm so proud of her 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: every damn sorry, but I would sit her down and 86 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: I'd say I made that decision to take that away 87 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: from you so that you can enjoy the parts of 88 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: your childhood that you would have enjoyed if she were here. 89 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: Like she doesn't like now. She has issues with you know, 90 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: she has friends who have their parents and that makes 91 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: her sad. And I would tell her I took that 92 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: away from you to give you what I thought would 93 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: be a better life. And if you're mad at me 94 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: about it, I apologize, But it's the decision I had 95 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: to make because you're dad. 96 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: That's another thing about being parents, Gandhi. This is why 97 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 4: you and I have we need to have a kid, okay. 98 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: So we can make heavy decisions together. 99 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: Because you and I without having kids, we we are 100 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: just walking to a life. It's a cakewalk for us, 101 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: being able to be forced to make these tough decisions 102 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 4: for your kids, you know, Gerald, Danielle, I just I 103 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 4: don't know how you do it, you know. 104 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: God bless you. 105 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: It's it's tough, but looking them in the eye and 106 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: getting to see her through them, and it makes everything 107 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: worth it. It makes me get up in the morning, 108 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 2: it makes me work hard. I do it for my 109 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: wife and I do it for my kids. 110 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: A gym, right, yeah, absolutely. 111 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 6: I'm listening to this and I'm thinking, what a hell 112 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 6: of a guy you are. 113 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: I'm coming I'm coming over. Gerald. If you're single, I'm 114 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 3: coming over. 115 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: I am single. I am single. Unfortunately, when you go 116 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: on a dating site and you say I'm widowed with 117 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: two children, and everyone just kind of runs away. 118 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, I guarantee we're gonna get 119 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: a ton of people reaching out, like, what's up with Gerald? 120 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: Do you want to your number? 121 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 5: Like, you know, just in case you want to pass it. 122 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: On for you. I'm in Madison, Wisconsin. 123 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 6: Isn't this how that movie started with Tom Hanks? 124 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: Sort of? 125 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: What was that movie? Yes, that's right, it is short. 126 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: It is yeah with Gerald, you know so, but you 127 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: said you would do that memory erasing for your kids. 128 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: You wouldn't do it for you. Though you didn't say that, 129 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: would you do it for you as well? 130 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 4: I wasn't you wouldn't you need to be like the 131 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 4: one person who still is aware of what happened. 132 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: So I think that I need to hold on to that. 133 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: But for them being so young and still going through 134 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: important parts of their life, they don't. They missed their 135 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 2: mom enough without the graphic thing that they've seen. 136 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: Go Erald, any of the thoughts in the room. 137 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 6: Well, I'll say this, Memories fade over time. We all 138 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 6: know this, but they also make us who we are. 139 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 6: So as much as you want to take that memory 140 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 6: away from your kids, I really feel like having experienced 141 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 6: what they've experienced, they're going to be that much stronger 142 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 6: in their futures because of it. 143 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: So I see it every day, and the part that 144 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: gets to me is when one of them comes to 145 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: me and they're just ball and crying, and then that moment, 146 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I wish I could take all of it away. 147 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: Wow, how many times did your mom and dad when 148 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: you're growing up say that to you? 149 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: I wish I could take that pain away from you. 150 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 4: I mean, something is trivial, is like closing your finger 151 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 4: in a door, you know, something like that. 152 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: More like a breakup when you're being so dramatic and 153 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: your parents are just like, I can't do anything to 154 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: help you, and I wish I could. 155 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, if my daughter, I tell you, generally, if my 156 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: daughter is like Daddy, I got my heart broken again again, 157 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what, Okay, I'll take the pain away. 158 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: Call the Japanese guy like speed dial. 159 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: My daughter has a boyfriend and I and I would go, oh, 160 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: I feel so bad for him. 161 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 4: Oh, Gerald, Well, Jerald, Look, it's an honor to speak 162 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: with you, and I know, I know it's even when 163 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 4: you're talking to us about it, it's you reliving it again. 164 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: And you know your show has meant so much to 165 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: me because when we moved to Wisconsin a couple of 166 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: years ago, I found your show and my therapy for 167 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: me is taking a ride in a car and listening 168 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: to music. And then I found you guys in the morning, 169 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: and it has so amazing. You make me laugh every morning, 170 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: You make me not think about those bad things, and 171 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 2: I can't tell you how much I appreciate you guys. Wow. 172 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: On the other side, other people listening to listening to 173 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: our show going, oh, this show is awful today. 174 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: Can I have this erased that that phone tap sucked? Goodbye? 175 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: All right, Gerald, Peace and love for you and your family. 176 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 4: And you're a great guy, and it's and it's a 177 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: pleasure to have you here. Thank you so much for 178 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: your time. 179 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: You guys, have a great day. Elvis ter Ran after 180 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: party