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Speaker 1: You were listening to Ruthie's Table four in partnership with Montclair.

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Speaker 1: What recipe did you choose?

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Speaker 2: This is the spaghetti a la putinesca. Oh, that's nice

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Speaker 2: in your cookbook and it's I think putin esca means

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Speaker 2: it's a sort of salty woman or a working woman.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure it's it's a recipe that was put

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Speaker 2: to people. He's working girls, you know, put together what

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Speaker 2: they could get. And I was in Mini's, this restaurant

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Speaker 2: in Naples recently and I ordered it. It's where Fellini

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Speaker 2: and lots of people ate, and it's it's just I

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Speaker 2: recommend that if you there's a Michueli is ninety two,

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Speaker 2: his son, I think it's Flabittori something like that. He's brilliant.

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Speaker 2: But here is here's from the River Cafe, classic Italian cookbook.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you can read it in anybody you want. The

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Speaker 1: other day I did a podcast with Benedict Coma Batch

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Speaker 1: and he he does impersonations, so he did an impersonation

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Speaker 1: of me reading the recipe.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's really good. I wouldn't dare do such a thing.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'll do it. You can say

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Speaker 2: it I'll do an impersonation of you're and my great

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Speaker 2: friend Paddy mckillnon reading, because he had it with me.

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Speaker 2: He had the spaghetti Ali putnesca right for sex, extra

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Speaker 2: virgin olive oil, four garlic cloves, peeled and finally sliced,

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Speaker 2: six anchovy phillips roughly chopped, two tablespoons dried organ or

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Speaker 2: two dried red chilies, actually kind of. If it's me,

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Speaker 2: it's six dried red chilies.

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Speaker 1: You like it hot?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it hot. It's three tablespoons salted capers

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Speaker 2: rinsed in a sieve under a cold running tap, chopped,

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Speaker 2: four tablespoons small black olives, stoned and toWin in a half,

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Speaker 2: five tablespoons finally chopped fresh flat leaf parsley, seven and

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Speaker 2: fifty grams of ripe plum tomatoes, peeled cord and finally

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Speaker 2: chopped sea salt and freshly ground black pepper. If my

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Speaker 2: mates could hear me doing this, they give me such

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Speaker 2: a slaging. Five undergrams of spaghetti and one lemon a lemon.

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Speaker 2: Do you like some lemon cello?

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Speaker 1: We do your lemon cello. That's fairing, Neapalitan. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to read out the method. We can just read

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Speaker 1: out the ingredients. Do you want to read the method

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Speaker 1: or not?

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Speaker 2: How about I do it really fast? I'll do it.

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Speaker 2: Heat three tablespoons of olive oil in a wide, thick

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Speaker 2: bottomed pan and add the garlic and reduce the heat.

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Speaker 2: When the garlic begins to brown and the fees, organ

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Speaker 2: and chili, stirring them into the oil, cook briefly, just

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Speaker 2: to melt the edge ofvies. Add half the capers, half

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Speaker 2: the olives, and half the parsley, stir well to combine.

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Speaker 2: Then add the tomatoes. Bring the sauce back to the boil,

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Speaker 2: then reduce the heat in summer until all the tomatoes

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Speaker 2: become thick, stirring from time to time to prevent sticking.

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Speaker 2: This should take about twenty to thirty minutes. Season with

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Speaker 2: sea salt and black pepper. Bringing a large pan of

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Speaker 2: salted water to the boil, Add the spaghetti and cook

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Speaker 2: until aldente. Drain and add to the sauce. Then stir

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Speaker 2: in the remaining olives, capers and parsley. Finish with a

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Speaker 2: drizzle of extra virgin olive oil and a squeeze of lemone.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of puts and esca and being in Naples. At

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Speaker 2: the end of the Stories of Surrender film, I carried

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Speaker 2: out this fantasy of my father's, or that I presumed

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Speaker 2: was my father's fantasy, which was to sing to Suriento

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Speaker 2: and in the oldest opera house in the world, because

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Speaker 2: my dad was a tenor and a really good one,

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Speaker 2: and I had to sing this is sacred grant and

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Speaker 2: the Italian's God Bless them was so generous to me

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Speaker 2: that they allowed me sing that song, and I sang

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Speaker 2: it in the theater of San Carlo.

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Speaker 1: Did you feel the presence of your father? Did you

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Speaker 1: feel him there?

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Speaker 2: You know I did, and I you know, I always

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Speaker 2: loved my father, but playing him every night on that

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Speaker 2: what the band used to call the Quarterman Show. But

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Speaker 2: on the one and Show, I would play my father

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Speaker 2: just by turning my head, you know, left or right.

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Speaker 2: And I really started to like him, and I really

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Speaker 2: started to just to get the humor of him. And

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Speaker 2: maybe I just didn't get it when I was younger,

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Speaker 2: how funny he was. And then yes, singing that was

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Speaker 2: very hard. I can't even think about it too much now,

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Speaker 2: but it's you know, it's the opera. Think about this.

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Speaker 2: You're from the inner city. As such, Oxman'stown's where they

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Speaker 2: came from. Booth my mother and my father. But my

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Speaker 2: father Catholic, taken out of school, very bright, but taking

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Speaker 2: at school when he's fifteen, goes to work with the

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Speaker 2: post office and is interested in stuff like cricket. You know.

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Speaker 2: His mother would listen to the cricket scores on the

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Speaker 2: BBC opera. He read, you know, Shakespeare, he painted, it's

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Speaker 2: a wild thing. And Irish people are very, i think,

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Speaker 2: very intellectually curious. And my father just would just go

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Speaker 2: to those places where you're not supposed to go because

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Speaker 2: you're you know, you're from you're from there. And and

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Speaker 2: I have a bit of that. I've realized that a

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Speaker 2: lot of my ideas about social justice, or rather the

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Speaker 2: lack of it, came from my father too. And that

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Speaker 2: kitchen table that we talked about earlier, rather than a

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Speaker 2: kitchen sink drama, our kitchen table drama. As well as

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Speaker 2: us sort of arguing with each other, there was some

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Speaker 2: brilliant arguments about the right things health, housing, fundamental rights, education.

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Speaker 2: After that, he'd say people can go, he say people

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't, I don't. I couldn't care less.

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Speaker 2: But if people have to have health, housing, and educations

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Speaker 2: drilled into me. And his values and of course whether

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Speaker 2: it's one or or read injustice can I can describe

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Speaker 2: itself in various different ways, but but that I got

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Speaker 2: that from him. Thank you for listening to Ruthie's Table

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Speaker 2: four in partnership with Montclair