WEBVTT - 4. Bananas in Tucson

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<v Speaker 1>From my Heart Media. This is Missing in Alaska, the

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<v Speaker 1>story of two congressmen who vanished in nineteen two and

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<v Speaker 1>my quest to figure out what happened to them. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host, John Wallzac, March fourth, ninet, Tucson, Arizona. The

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<v Speaker 1>sun is setting. The temperature sinks below sixty. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>light breeze. It's early in the evening. At the El

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<v Speaker 1>Dorado Lodge, a luxurious desert resort. A gorgeous tree line

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<v Speaker 1>road leads up to a complex of old stone clad buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>Tranquil mountains lurk in the distance. Sitting at a bar

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<v Speaker 1>is Tom Davis, a detective with the Arizona Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Public Safety. He's joined by a supervisor and a reporter.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all undercover. And that's say you shaped bar, and

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<v Speaker 1>on one side is the public side. On the other

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<v Speaker 1>side is a room and it's just you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just an alcove. Well, if you set on the public side,

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<v Speaker 1>you could see what was going on in the alcove.

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<v Speaker 1>Lo and behold, here comes this party and it's Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>and his wife and his one of the people that

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<v Speaker 1>he had gone to Anchorage with. And you know it

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<v Speaker 1>for me being a brand new guy. This was fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry is Jerome Jerry Max Paisley, a thirty three year

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<v Speaker 1>old murderer and bomber with close ties to two prominent

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<v Speaker 1>mafia families. So we sat there and we just kept

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<v Speaker 1>making notes and watching all the activities and the pictures

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<v Speaker 1>being taken, and boom, it's noted that Jerry married Peggy.

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<v Speaker 1>Peggy is Peggy begat the widow of Congressman Nick beget

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<v Speaker 1>at the time of the wedding. Did you know who

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<v Speaker 1>Peggy was? I probably did, but I probably didn't put

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<v Speaker 1>any significance to it. Were you aware at the time

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<v Speaker 1>of the wedding that Peggy was the widow of a

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<v Speaker 1>missing congressman? Uh? Yeah, but it didn't take it seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because it was it was an accident plane crack

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<v Speaker 1>pause for a minute. Let this sink. In. Sixteen months

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<v Speaker 1>and sixteen days after her husband, a U S congressman,

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<v Speaker 1>disappeared in Alaska, Peggy Begett married Jerry Paisley, a mobster,

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<v Speaker 1>at a wedding in Arizona. It sounds sensational, It is sensational,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to be clear it's true. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>some baseless conspiracy. It did happen. I have a copy

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<v Speaker 1>of the marriage license and photos of the reception. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I have the original photos. Tom Davis gave them to me.

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<v Speaker 1>The pictures I gave you with Jerry. That's the last

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<v Speaker 1>I have unless I resurrect. Uh. Those are the originals

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<v Speaker 1>I took and sent to you. But you can look

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<v Speaker 1>at the paper and tell that that came out of

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<v Speaker 1>the book, out of the Bible. This is from your bible. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the last existing piece. Davis, who had to distinguished

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six year career in law enforcement, worked on a

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<v Speaker 1>small team that battled organized climb in Arizona. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a secret book, a so called bible, which listed about

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred local mobsters and their associates. In the bible

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<v Speaker 1>was Jerry Paisley. Man Paisley, Where to start? He's so

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<v Speaker 1>important to this story. I need to tell you about him,

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<v Speaker 1>his history, his personality, his shocking laims. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to glorify him. He was a murderer and a bomber,

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<v Speaker 1>an abusive, violent man. He doesn't deserve glory. Paisley was

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<v Speaker 1>born in Detroit in nineteen forty one. He grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in a bad neighborhood. As a teen, he enlisted in

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<v Speaker 1>the Navy. I don't know much about his early years,

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<v Speaker 1>just bits and pieces I picked up along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can share with you an incident that occurred

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<v Speaker 1>when he was nineteen, a violent attack that illustrates the rough,

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<v Speaker 1>jagged nature of his life from birth to death. On

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<v Speaker 1>May three, nineteen sixty, Paisley was hitchhiking in California when

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<v Speaker 1>four men accosted him using either a razor or a

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<v Speaker 1>sharp piece of glass. Paisley wasn't sure which. They carved

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<v Speaker 1>a four inch cross and two letters ZS into his arm. Thankfully,

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<v Speaker 1>the wounds were superficial he didn't need stitches. Two years later,

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<v Speaker 1>after the Navy discharged him, Paisley returned to Detroit. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where he started working for the lick of Oli Family,

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<v Speaker 1>an organized crime syndicate led by Pete Horseface lika Oli Senior.

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<v Speaker 1>That's also where he befriended pete seniors sons, especially Pete Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the two men got close enough that in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy four, Pete Locooli Jr. Attended Paisley's wedding to

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<v Speaker 1>Peggy Begat Pete Jr. And his wife Cathy even traveled

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<v Speaker 1>with Peggy and Paisley on their honeymoon in Mexico. The

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<v Speaker 1>lick of OLiS were a mid tier mob family, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>special mid century. They moved from Detroit to Tucson. Paisley

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<v Speaker 1>went with them. Soon thereafter, another much more famous mafia

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<v Speaker 1>family also moved to Tucson, The Bananas. Remember Vito cor Leoni.

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<v Speaker 1>Marlon Brando's character from the Godfather. Cor Leoni was based

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<v Speaker 1>in part on famed mafia don Joe Bonano Senior. During

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<v Speaker 1>the sixties in Tucson, Paisley befriended Banano's sons Bill and

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Jr. He was captivated by the family's flashy infamy

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<v Speaker 1>and gritty glamour ine. He even made a brief cameo

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<v Speaker 1>and honor thy father. A best seller on the Bananas

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<v Speaker 1>written by legendary author Gay Talise. I asked Talise, who's

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight, if he remembers Paisley. He said he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a long time ago. The Bananas were not

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<v Speaker 1>only celebrities in Tucson, they were well known throughout the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Sr. Was quite literally the Big Cheese, a nickname

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<v Speaker 1>he got by sinking his teeth into the dairy industry. Laugh,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, but there was a lot of money to

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<v Speaker 1>be made in the cheese trade, counterfeit, mazzarella, money laundering,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Bonano was a big deal, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most important mafioso's in American history, the patriarch of

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<v Speaker 1>one of the so called Five families which dominated organized

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<v Speaker 1>crime in New York City during the early twentieth century.

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<v Speaker 1>Bonano saw himself as a gentleman. He liked to say

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<v Speaker 1>that he lived by old school values. Booze but not narcotics. Murder, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but only if you deserved it. But he distorted reality.

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<v Speaker 1>The Banano family was brutal. They were violent gangsters. They

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<v Speaker 1>maimed and murdered, and bombed and extorted and kidnapped and

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<v Speaker 1>committed fraud. Later, they tried to rehabilitate their image, But

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Banano didn't become Joe Banano by being a polite

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<v Speaker 1>man who just dabbled in bootlegging. For three decades from

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen thirties to nineteen sixties, Banano held an iron

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<v Speaker 1>grip on his family. His stranglehold began to unravel in

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<v Speaker 1>the mid sixties when he got greedy and tried to

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<v Speaker 1>assassinate rival mob bosses. The plot failed, igniting a bloody

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<v Speaker 1>mob war called the Banana War, or, as the press

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<v Speaker 1>sarcastically dubbed it, the Banana Split. See. One of Banano's nicknames,

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<v Speaker 1>which he absolutely hated, was Joe Bananas, hence the name

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<v Speaker 1>of his signature war. At one point during the war,

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<v Speaker 1>Banana was kidnapped and for while he disappeared. It's thought, though,

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<v Speaker 1>that he staged the kidnapping in order to avoid testifying

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<v Speaker 1>before a grand jury. When he eventually resurfaced, he decided

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<v Speaker 1>to make a strategic retreat to Tucson, where he quote retired.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was bullshit. He was diminished, but not dead,

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<v Speaker 1>and he certainly wasn't retired. I know, I'm throwing a

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<v Speaker 1>million names at you, so let's recap. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Paisley, who married Peggy Beget, the widow of Congressman

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Beget, in nineteen four b The Lick of OLiS,

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<v Speaker 1>a mid tier mob family from Paisley's hometown of Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>who relocated to Tucson and for whom Paisley worked. And

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<v Speaker 1>see the Bananas, a famous mob family from New York

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<v Speaker 1>who also relocated to Tucson and for whom Paisley also worked,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Paisley, the Lick of Olies, the bananas, They're all

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<v Speaker 1>tied together. But why Tucson. It seems random, right, an

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<v Speaker 1>odd place for the mob to me. Not really, It's sunny,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty removed from the violence of Chicago and New York.

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<v Speaker 1>In Detroit, it makes sense, and Arizona had lacks laws

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<v Speaker 1>which allowed the mob to easily launder money. Arizona was

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<v Speaker 1>Switzerland in the United States. Arizona had a blind trust

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<v Speaker 1>system in his banking system that allows people to hide

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<v Speaker 1>moneys here just as effectively as they could in Switzerland.

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<v Speaker 1>And the blind trust accounts that could be set up

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<v Speaker 1>with laundered money the bank accounts themsels could also own

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<v Speaker 1>real estate. And when I first began working over here

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<v Speaker 1>in nearly seventies, Peccati was owned by number and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>knew who owned anything. It was all through blind trust

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<v Speaker 1>accounts at a bank. That's Don Devereaux a seasoned investigative

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<v Speaker 1>reporter in Arizona who covered organized crime for decades. He's

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<v Speaker 1>best known for his never ending investigation into the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six assassination of reporter Don Bowles, who was killed

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<v Speaker 1>in Phoenix by a car bomb. Something will cover later.

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<v Speaker 1>Devereaux also dug into both the Banano and Locavoli families.

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<v Speaker 1>With two major mob families in Tucson, you'd figure there

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<v Speaker 1>would be some bitter rivalry, so many angry egos crammed

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<v Speaker 1>into a small desert city, but that wasn't the case.

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<v Speaker 1>We're looking Holy moved out here from Detroit, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was a friend of Joe's and and and writed The

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<v Speaker 1>Look of Religion. Lots of rolling people from around the

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<v Speaker 1>country to move to Tucson and the Phoenix to retire.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at really largely came to the Tucson area to retire.

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<v Speaker 1>But Ana was still active when he was at me too,

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<v Speaker 1>so but look a Holy largely had left Detroit behind.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a retired bob guy living comfortably in Tucson,

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<v Speaker 1>um on a place called the Grace Ranches they called

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<v Speaker 1>with his family. Uh and close friends and close enough

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<v Speaker 1>they know they shared the same accountant um they were.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there were secrets between those guys. They were

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<v Speaker 1>both friends and not competitors, and you know, happily you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seeing each other as good friends. Yeah, even though the

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<v Speaker 1>Bananas and Look of OLiS maintained peace between their respective families,

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<v Speaker 1>their presidence was detrimental to Tucson as a whole. In

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<v Speaker 1>the late sixties, the city became a hot spot for

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<v Speaker 1>mob violence, most notably a series of high profile bombings.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of these bombings were tied to extortion attempts, insurance scams,

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<v Speaker 1>and vigilante payback. The motivation behind some, though, was more complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>In July, the homes of both Joe Banano Senior and

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Lacavoli Senior were bombed. There was a war started

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<v Speaker 1>between Banana and Lukavoli by a rogue FDIH named David Hale.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the day, Hale began planning bombs on most

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<v Speaker 1>of Banana and the look of Holy people as if

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<v Speaker 1>they were fighting back and forth between themselves, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>start some sort of an internet scene mob war between

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<v Speaker 1>Lukaolian and It obviously didn't work, and David Hale got

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<v Speaker 1>exposed as having you know, done this himself as an

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<v Speaker 1>FBI agent. David Hale denied that he was behind the bombings.

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<v Speaker 1>Hale was never convicted of any crime tied to the bombings.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't respond to interview requests in night, someone also

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<v Speaker 1>bombed the house of a prominent judge named Evo Diconcini.

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<v Speaker 1>DeConcini had been friends with Joe Banano, but later, when

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<v Speaker 1>his son Dennis was elected to the U. S. Senate,

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<v Speaker 1>he distanced himself from the mob boss. I just said

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<v Speaker 1>someone bombed Judge Deconcini's home. But guess who that someone was.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Paisley, the same Jerry Paisley who only six years

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<v Speaker 1>later would marry Peggy Baggage. Several sources told me Paisley

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<v Speaker 1>was behind the DeConcini bombing. Paisley was something of a fixer,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, a wanna be gangster. He was technically a mobster,

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<v Speaker 1>but low and seniority, more the guy you turn to

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<v Speaker 1>to break some legs or chuck some dynamite over a

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<v Speaker 1>fence than the mastermind of any operation. To my knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>he was responsible for at least three bombings, including the

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<v Speaker 1>DeConcini bombing. So how on earth did Jerry Paisley, a

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<v Speaker 1>mobster who bombed to judge's house, end up marrying Peggy Begett,

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<v Speaker 1>the widow of a missing congressman. How did they meet?

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<v Speaker 1>The official story is this in late nine About a

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<v Speaker 1>year after Nick Beggetts vanished, Peggy was with a friend

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<v Speaker 1>at the holiday in an Anchorage when she ran into Paisley,

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<v Speaker 1>who was tending bar. They hit it off, and a

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<v Speaker 1>few months later, in March nineteen seventy four, they got

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<v Speaker 1>hitched in Tucson. I've already told you why the mob

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<v Speaker 1>was in Tucson. But why was the mob in Alaska

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventies. Why was Jerry Paisley in Alaska in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies? One word oil. After the discovery of oil

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty eight at Prudeo Bay, Alaska boomed. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>in modern Alaska history can be split into pre nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty eight and post nineteen Pre nineteen sixty eight, Alaska

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<v Speaker 1>was scenic and had timber and bears a stereotype, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but people in the lower forty eight didn't really care

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<v Speaker 1>about it except for its natural beauty, some of its resources,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the height of the Cold War, it's strategic

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<v Speaker 1>location near the Soviet Union. Post ninety eight, Alaska was

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<v Speaker 1>an oil state, a state with immense wealth waiting to

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<v Speaker 1>be tapped, a state with mounds of money just waiting

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<v Speaker 1>to be pumped into people's pockets. Pre nineteen sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>there was crime, but wasn't exorbitant. Post ninety eight, it boomed.

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<v Speaker 1>Pre ninety eight, you could still find affordable housing. Post

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<v Speaker 1>night with a crush of new workers, you couldn't. It

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<v Speaker 1>was during this boom atmosphere in nineteen seventy that Alaskin's

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<v Speaker 1>first elected, Nick Baggetts, to the u. S. House. Beggetts

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<v Speaker 1>had run a campaign promising to maximize oil prosperity, but importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>he also acknowledged the problems that stirred up. Here's an

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<v Speaker 1>ad he ran in nineteen seventy. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be an economist to know that we have a critical

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<v Speaker 1>housing shortage. All you have to do is try to

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<v Speaker 1>find a place to live. Five years ago, the typical

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<v Speaker 1>monthly payments for a twenty thousand dollar home would be

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<v Speaker 1>about one Now, a twenty thousand dollar home that's if

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<v Speaker 1>you can find one, would be well over two dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a month. America's leading housing official recently stated that less

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<v Speaker 1>than of Americans can really afford to buy a home.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the problem nationwide. The last situation is worse. There

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<v Speaker 1>are practical solutions. Nick Beggatch finds practical solutions as a

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<v Speaker 1>state senator. He's been doing it for eight years, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's been vocal about it. Nick begat has always wanted

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<v Speaker 1>you to know where he stood. He still does. Nick

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<v Speaker 1>beggat is Alaska's man for Congress. Beggatte went on to

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<v Speaker 1>help pass the Alaska Native Claim Settlement Act or ANKSA,

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<v Speaker 1>a monumental piece of legislation that removed a major obstacle

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<v Speaker 1>blocking construction of the Trans Alaska Pipeline, but the pipeline

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<v Speaker 1>still faced countless legal, political, and environmental hurdles. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>until March nine, two and a half years after Beggett's vanished,

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<v Speaker 1>that construction finally began. Poor morning. After years of planning,

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<v Speaker 1>court fights, and stockpiling of materials, construction of the Alaska

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<v Speaker 1>Oil Pipeline begins. It will run almost eight hundred miles

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<v Speaker 1>from the North supe of Alaska to the port of Valdes.

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<v Speaker 1>The pipeline is supposed to be finished in about two

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<v Speaker 1>years at a cost of at least six billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>The Big boom is already underway in Alaska. Asked the

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<v Speaker 1>people in the city of Fairbanks, for example, Jack Perkins did,

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<v Speaker 1>and here is his report. It used to be in

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<v Speaker 1>fair Banks that keeping the snow shoveled half the roof

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the main problems. But today, with the

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<v Speaker 1>coming of the pipe loving, Fairbanks is a boomtown and

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<v Speaker 1>there are new problems they never thought of here before.

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<v Speaker 1>Used to be in Fairbanks you can make a telephone

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<v Speaker 1>call right away without having to try for an hour

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<v Speaker 1>without getting buzzed off. But with the pipeline, the local

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<v Speaker 1>phone system is flooded with more calls than a year

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<v Speaker 1>ago and can't handle them. Used to be, you could

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<v Speaker 1>get an apartment, nothing fancy, but sheltered for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars. Now rents have doubled and tripled, one bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred a month and hardly anything available. Vacancy rate

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<v Speaker 1>in Fairbanks about zero. And consider crime rates. Always a

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<v Speaker 1>drinking town, but arrests for drunkenness now up a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty five percent, juvenile arrests up fifty robberies up

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and twenty three percent, and with all the

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<v Speaker 1>pipeline workers passing through town with their rolls of money,

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<v Speaker 1>prostitution arrests up seven percent. Many of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>moved to Alaska long before the oil boom were upset

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<v Speaker 1>to see the pristine home changing so rapidly. What you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting here, of course, is what is what they call progress,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it? Now that's one name for it. I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>other names for it which might not be arable. It

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<v Speaker 1>happens to sit. Is this bursting and straining toward what

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<v Speaker 1>is sometimes called progress? But maybe nowhere has it ever

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<v Speaker 1>happened so much and so fast. And it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>the people of Fairbanks weren't ready for it is there?

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<v Speaker 1>Many of them don't want it at all. Jack Perkins,

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<v Speaker 1>NBC News, Fairbanks, Alaska. Two years later, in June nine,

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<v Speaker 1>construction on the pipeline wrapped up. Oil Mania reached a

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<v Speaker 1>fever pitch. Now the richest could really flow. There's oil

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<v Speaker 1>in the pipeline, the Trans Alaska Pipeline. This evening pump

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<v Speaker 1>station number one at Prudeoe Bay, two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>miles north of the Arctic Circle today began pushing heated

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<v Speaker 1>crude oil into the pipe. Don Oliver was there here.

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<v Speaker 1>It is finally finished after eight years of planning and building.

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<v Speaker 1>The oil companies rattled off all sorts of superlative statistics

0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:58.400
<v Speaker 1>about it. Eight hundred miles long, built by a peak

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<v Speaker 1>workforce of more than tw thousands from one end to

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<v Speaker 1>the other, it will hold three hundred and eighty million

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<v Speaker 1>gallons of oil. The cost nearly eight billion dollars, the

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<v Speaker 1>largest most expensive project ever attempted by a private enterprise. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so again, by this point it should be blatantly obvious

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<v Speaker 1>why the Mob and Jerry Paisley specifically came to Alaska

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventies. Oil oil is what drew the Mob

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<v Speaker 1>to Alaska. Oil is what drew Paisley to Alaska. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a black gold rush. Here's Mike Grimes, a retired

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<v Speaker 1>cop who worked for the Anchorage Police Department. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the period when Alaska was just booming. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>a goal rush count because of oil pipeline being constructed,

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<v Speaker 1>so much money up there. They had such a dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>increase in population, and everybody coming from somewhere else, uh

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<v Speaker 1>to get rich in Alaska. And so it was a

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<v Speaker 1>very fascinating time to be working vice. And there was

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<v Speaker 1>only three of us on the vice squad at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, we had such an influx of prostitutional vainly

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<v Speaker 1>off the West coast. So the prostitution industry was just

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<v Speaker 1>booming up there on the gambling that we were having

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<v Speaker 1>people come from all over with organized crime behind them

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<v Speaker 1>from other states and set up underground gambling joints in

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<v Speaker 1>Anchorage and uh and then after hours clubs that were

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<v Speaker 1>illegally serving alcohol. So we were inundated for the three

0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:49.080
<v Speaker 1>man vice squad. It was a wild time and Paisley

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<v Speaker 1>and the mob wanted to cash in drugs, sex work,

0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you name it. Paisley moved to Alaska nineteen seventy three

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<v Speaker 1>with his close friend Sal Spinelli. Like Paisley, Spinelli was

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<v Speaker 1>a mobster with ties to both the lick of Oli

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<v Speaker 1>and Banano crime families. When Paisley wed Peggy beget in

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<v Speaker 1>March n Spinelli was his best man After the wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>When Peggy, Paisley, and Spinelli returned to Anchorage, Spinelli opened

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<v Speaker 1>a jewelry store with Peggy's oldest son, Nick Begett's Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>Multiple law enforcement sources told me the store was a

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<v Speaker 1>front for stolen jewelry, including turquoise traffic from Arizona to Alaska.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Begats Jr. Now a well known conspiracy theorist, was

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<v Speaker 1>only a teenager at the time. He declined interview requests.

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<v Speaker 1>He was never convicted of any crime pertaining to the

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<v Speaker 1>theft of jewelry, and again, he was only a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>a kid who lost his dad and ended up with

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<v Speaker 1>a violent new stepfather, Jerry Paisley. As Paisley settled into

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:17.359
<v Speaker 1>married life, Peggy Begett now Peggy Paisley, showered him with money.

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<v Speaker 1>After Nick, her first husband, disappeared, Peggy had received a

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<v Speaker 1>windfall of cash. According to documents I found archived at

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, there was a fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollar life insurance policy which had a double indemnity

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<v Speaker 1>clause for accidental death, so a hundred and ten thousand

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:37.879
<v Speaker 1>dollars from that, and there was a one time forty

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<v Speaker 1>five dollar benefit from Congress, plus the balance of Nick's

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 1>checking in retirement accounts. Altogether, Peggy got at least a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty eight thousand, four hundred and thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and seven cents, about a million dollars today when

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<v Speaker 1>adjusted for inflation. She inherited other things too, including apartment buildings.

0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Peggy spent much of that money on her new husband

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<v Speaker 1>and Paisley. The newlyweds honeymoon in Mexico. They were joined

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<v Speaker 1>on that trip, as I said earlier, by Pete Lacavol Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>And his wife Cathy. Peggy bought Paisley expensive jewelry and

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<v Speaker 1>fancy cars too, including a Cadillac El Dorado and a

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<v Speaker 1>Jaguar x K. She also bought him a bar. In

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<v Speaker 1>May nineteen seventy four, two months after Peggy and Paisley wed,

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<v Speaker 1>they started a business called Max Inc. I obtained the

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<v Speaker 1>company's records from the state of Alaska. Peggy was the president,

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Paisley was the secretary treasurer, and another man whom I'll

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<v Speaker 1>discussed later was the vice president. Max Inc. Operated a

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:41.440
<v Speaker 1>bar and anchorage called the Alaska Mining Company, the type

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<v Speaker 1>of watering hole that minted money during the oil boom.

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<v Speaker 1>It had previously been called the Green Dragon. Here again

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<v Speaker 1>is Mike Grimes, the retired Anchorage cop who worked vice

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventies. I heard Paisley was involved in the

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<v Speaker 1>it's called Laska Mining Company before it was a reading dragon,

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<v Speaker 1>that he was involved in that place with the Beggy

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<v Speaker 1>just and I said, God, what are they doing this scumback?

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, because uh, I mean, I was a lifelong

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Alaskan Nick Beggy towards my congress. Peggy and Paisley's marriage

0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't exactly common knowledge, at least to the general public,

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.679
<v Speaker 1>but a good number of politically connected folks and members

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 1>of law enforcement knew about it. Perhaps this is a

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<v Speaker 1>good time to pause to examine why the marriage is

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<v Speaker 1>even newsworthy at all, because I know what people will say.

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:37.360
<v Speaker 1>They'll say I'm reporting it because it's salacious. They'll say

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to sex up this story in order to

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>sell it. But that's not true. They don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>I know. At first glance, Peggy Begett seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>a sympathetic character, a woman whose husband vanished, a woman

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.879
<v Speaker 1>who became a single mother to six kids, a woman

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:58.120
<v Speaker 1>who's now a grandmother in her eighties. Typically her personal

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 1>life would be none of my business. Sure, she ran

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<v Speaker 1>for Congress several times after Nick disappeared, so she was

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 1>for a while a public figure. But that's not why

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm reporting this, So bear with me. We have a

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>ways to go. I also want to be clear about

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:17.120
<v Speaker 1>something else. I'm not reporting everything I know. I learned

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, but certain things, while salacious, aren't pertinent to

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>this story, and I'm purposely leaving them out. Also, one

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 1>more thing, Mark beget, Peggy's son, served for six years

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.440
<v Speaker 1>in the U. S. Senate. So let me say too

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that I have no political agenda here. In fact, I

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:36.959
<v Speaker 1>think Mark was a good senator, and he was just

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>a kid when all of this happened, a kid traumatized

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:43.120
<v Speaker 1>by the loss of his father. Peggy Beggett and Mark

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Beggett declined multiple interview requests. Living large on Peggy's money,

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:54.399
<v Speaker 1>Paisley spiraled out of control by nine six. He was

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<v Speaker 1>heavily into drugs, was married to Peggy. He just couldn't

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>leave a cocaine alone. And it's since the cocaine and

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>the women and this and that, and it just it

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>was terrible to to watch the deterioration of his and

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Peggy's relationship. I felt sorry for Peggy, you know, and

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>she got herself into something that she probably had no idea.

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you know if she knew of his background really

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.680
<v Speaker 1>when they got married. I would say she did not,

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>but I have no way of knowing for sure. That's

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:40.639
<v Speaker 1>Paisley's friend. George Schaefer. I've known Paisley since the early sixties.

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I probably knew him better than anybody in Alaska. Schaefer

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 1>met Paisley in Arizona sometime around nineteen. He owned a bar,

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 1>it was called the Cabaret Lounge in Tucson in Arizona,

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and at that time, there was a lot of things

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>going on with the well, there was all those bombings

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 1>in Tucson. They were there was a group of people

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>that were coming in and trying to get a protection

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>racket on with some of the local bar owners around

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>the town. And I was kind of brought in and

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:36.199
<v Speaker 1>used as a little bit of a muscle for them.

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Just they were coming in and intimidating the bar owners

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>themselves and just trying to get them to pay protection

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>money like they did back east. Who doesn't work that

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>well in the West. So that's how I originally met Paisley.

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>He was kind of on the other side, and we

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of became friends, but not not to any great extent.

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 1>When you say he was quite of on the other side,

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>what do you mean by that, Well, he was associated

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>with several of the so called mafia people, mainly the

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Nanos and and Lickabli. Paisley, Shafer said, was a quote

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>crazy person wherever he went because trouble as far as

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>the deal with Peggy she did by him that mining company,

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>which is the bar. I guess you don't. You're well

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>aware that I got shot there. I don't know the details.

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I do know that you were shot there. Okay, Well

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I was shot there by somebody. You know that no

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>one knew. I mean, it was just a an incident

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that I was in the wrong place the wrong time. Pasically,

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>he had a partner in the bar long you know,

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 1>his wife gave him that more or less as a

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>wedding gift. As far as the ownership in the bar,

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>his partner was a real straight ace guy, would never

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>break the law. In fact, when I went there to

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>go to work, the only reason he called me in

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>is because his regular bouncer from Phoenix, ron Moawyer was

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<v Speaker 1>his name, and he had cleaned the bar up as

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<v Speaker 1>far as riff raff and all that. Well, he he

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<v Speaker 1>worked two years, had to go on vacation. Jerry wanted

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<v Speaker 1>me to work there for the two weeks while he

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<v Speaker 1>was on vacation, and I originally said no, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he talked me into it anyway, So I was just

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be paid under the table for two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>and his partners, Oh, no, we can't do that. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to put him on the payroll. Yeah, we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>keep everything above board. And so I was lucky that

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<v Speaker 1>I was on work in the cop when I got shot.

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<v Speaker 1>But Danny Ziminich was the guy's name was partner's name,

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Max. Zevinich was the third person who had an

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<v Speaker 1>ownership steak in Max Inc. The business Peggy and Paisley

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<v Speaker 1>started after they got married. Sevenich was the company's vice president.

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<v Speaker 1>The company was called Max Inc. Because both Zivinich and

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<v Speaker 1>Paisley shared the same middle name. Max Zeveni is a

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<v Speaker 1>key figure in this story, someone you'll hear about in

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<v Speaker 1>later episodes. He's still alive. He owns a popular bar

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<v Speaker 1>in Anchorage. He declined multiple requests for an on the

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<v Speaker 1>record interview. In late nineteen Peggy and Paisley got divorced.

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<v Speaker 1>Newly single, Paisley moved back to Arizona. For the next

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<v Speaker 1>fifth teen years, he was in and out of prison

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<v Speaker 1>on a variety of charges, including aggravated assault. Sometime around

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<v Speaker 1>he was paroled and he got a job in Phoenix

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<v Speaker 1>selling cars. There was a deal or another guy got

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<v Speaker 1>out of prison that he was in with. After a

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<v Speaker 1>few months they got together and there was a gal

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<v Speaker 1>involved a little bit. I don't know. He's told me

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<v Speaker 1>the details and I have forgotten them, except that he

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<v Speaker 1>ended up killing that guy and was going to kill

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<v Speaker 1>He told me that he pointed the gun. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>he killed a couple of guys, two of them in

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<v Speaker 1>the front seat, and he pointed the gun at the

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<v Speaker 1>girl and it jammed and didn't go off. Uh so

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't kill her. But anyway, now he's wanted by

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<v Speaker 1>the law. And that's when he came to live with me,

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<v Speaker 1>just for a few weeks, and I got him a

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<v Speaker 1>job where they didn't even want to know his name

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<v Speaker 1>and it was cashing to the table. Well, he he

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed any anything, any kind of friendship we ever had

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<v Speaker 1>because he ended up robbin some people while he was there.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course he left left my truck at the

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle airport. I was on vacation, left my truck at

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<v Speaker 1>the Seattle Airport. I had to go get it and

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<v Speaker 1>then I had to explain to the sheriffs. But there

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<v Speaker 1>was that he was on the ten most wanted and

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>they called him jealous Jerry. Well, he got so mad

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<v Speaker 1>about that because that wasn't a story at all. He

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<v Speaker 1>had nothing to do with the girl or he he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have any affair with her or nothing. But so

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<v Speaker 1>that's motivated him to turn himself in. And that was in.

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<v Speaker 1>You just heard Schaefer say Heisley was on the ten

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<v Speaker 1>Most Wanted list, presumably the famous FBI list. Other people

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<v Speaker 1>told me Paisley was on America's Most Wanted. Neither is accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Paisley was on a show called Prime Suspect.

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<v Speaker 1>Think of it as a kind of rip off of

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<v Speaker 1>America's Most Wanted. We tried to dig up the segment

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<v Speaker 1>to share it with you, but we couldn't find it.

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<v Speaker 1>When it aired. Sometime in ninety three, Paisley was living

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<v Speaker 1>with George Schaefer, hiding out from the cops in Eagle Creek, Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>about thirty minutes southeast of Portland. By that point, he

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<v Speaker 1>had murdered at least five people, and he still had

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<v Speaker 1>murder on his mind. I'll tell you another interesting story

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<v Speaker 1>before we go, just like if you're interested in it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an obsession to Jerry Head. While he was

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<v Speaker 1>in Oregon. He was obsessed with wanting to kill a

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<v Speaker 1>dentist in Safford, Arizona, and evidently the dentist had done

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 1>something to him. Farley was in prison in Arizona. He

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 1>was sent down there to have a tooth pole or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and a guy wouldn't give him enough novacaine. And then

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>he told Jerry, I'm here to State to extract pain

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<v Speaker 1>on you. I make you feel good. So Jerry was

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with that, and he sware someday he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to kill a dentist. Paisley didn't end up killing the dentist. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>in March, he turned himself in. He was subsequently convicted

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<v Speaker 1>of murder and sentenced to life in prison. By late

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Paisley was fifty three. He had no chance of getting out,

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>no chance of leniency or reduced sentence. He was going

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<v Speaker 1>to die behind bars. That's when he figured, fuck it,

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:55.280
<v Speaker 1>what do I have to lose? And he started talking

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<v Speaker 1>next time on missing in Alaska. That blow him up.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that JB have him blown up. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I know I took a fucking package up

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<v Speaker 1>there and they said it was a bum. They might

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>have been bullshit me. Here are your three tasks for

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<v Speaker 1>the week. First, I'd really like to get a copy

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<v Speaker 1>of the episode of Prime Suspect that featured Jerry Paisley.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it aired sometime between June and March. Help

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<v Speaker 1>me find it. Second, I'd also like to get a

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<v Speaker 1>copy of a nineteen one special report produced by k

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<v Speaker 1>g u N, the Tucson ABC affiliate, called The Big

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<v Speaker 1>Cheese Joe Bonano's Notes. Finally, I mentioned earlier than an

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<v Speaker 1>undercover reporter witnessed Jerry Paisley's wedding to Peggy Baggage. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that reporter is still alive, possibly living in the UK,

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<v Speaker 1>but I haven't been able to find him. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is Alex Dressler d R E H S L e R.

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