WEBVTT - Adam Silver Bringing World Cup Excitement to the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>You're tuned into Heat Check with Trystal Quick. On this

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<v Speaker 1>episode of the Heat Check, we talk about how Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Silver is trying to turn the NBA into sucker. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I explain the way it's going to change the

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<v Speaker 1>way the NBA works. Donovan Mitchell inside feature on why

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't like Rudy Gobert. He finally breaks his silence.

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<v Speaker 1>Good stuff there. Dallas Mavericks, we talk about them a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Is again how they have finally admitted that

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<v Speaker 1>it is time to pull the rip chord. That shit

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<v Speaker 1>is not okay and it's not gonna be okay. More

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<v Speaker 1>stuff coming out about that, and that's some really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>news about the Golden State Warriors and how they might

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<v Speaker 1>not be just punting on this season, but maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>entire idea of two timelines as a whole. Lots to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. Nick. Happy holidays to you guys. Do me

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<v Speaker 1>a favor and drop that generic ass. But so we

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<v Speaker 1>talked last episode about how I'm riveted. I am riveted

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<v Speaker 1>by soccer today. Actually, I spent fifteen maybe longer actually

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<v Speaker 1>probably thirty minutes of my life deciding what EPL team

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<v Speaker 1>I want to follow. I still don't know. It's still

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<v Speaker 1>very tough. There's not enough stars that I like. I

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<v Speaker 1>just am. I got a root for Harry Kane, like

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<v Speaker 1>I can't like. I love Himbope, but he's on PSG.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't find one that I like. You got

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<v Speaker 1>some issues with Chelsea and their age, and they're starting

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the decline because you know the whole

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<v Speaker 1>Russian oligarch thing. Anyways, I'm in. I'm gonna try to

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<v Speaker 1>find a team. I'm gonna follow said team. I might

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<v Speaker 1>just wait in the wings for Mbope to choose where

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<v Speaker 1>he goes in the EPL and just follow him wherever

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<v Speaker 1>he goes. I follow wherever Memphis Depey goes, I follow.

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<v Speaker 1>I like these swaggy strikers, which is why I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really like Christian polistic much. Anyway. Well, last Yesterday's final,

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<v Speaker 1>well Sunday's final because it's coming out on Tuesday, between

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<v Speaker 1>France and Argentina was like, if every game was like that,

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<v Speaker 1>there might not be another sport on Earth. They might

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<v Speaker 1>have just they might usurp everything if games all were

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Goodness, greatest people people tell me, soccer fans

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<v Speaker 1>tell me this is the greatest soccer game they've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>It was incredible, so much drama and star players doing

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<v Speaker 1>star player things and Bope balling out, taking the team,

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<v Speaker 1>throwing the whole entire squad on his back, messy showing

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<v Speaker 1>the world why he's the greatest, playing with the kids

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<v Speaker 1>after the game on hell de Maria, the fading star balling,

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<v Speaker 1>killing them, benching my man, Olivier Jeru for what reason?

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows. If you're an NBA fan, you don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know these names. So I'm just gonna keep going. It

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<v Speaker 1>was fun, though, it was really fun. NBA fans of course,

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<v Speaker 1>they know what this is like, right, They know it's

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<v Speaker 1>Steph and Braun going at it back and forth, Tatum

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<v Speaker 1>and Steph. Right, and you might, and I might emphasize

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<v Speaker 1>might be able to steal a title though without a

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<v Speaker 1>real superstar, but having a guy like Embappe who can

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<v Speaker 1>steal it in a blink of an eye. The things

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<v Speaker 1>that he did on Sunday, I just couldn't even believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what separates though true contenders from pretenders, right. And

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing that Adam Silver's trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>is how to replicate some of that excitement. He's known

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<v Speaker 1>as a huge soccer fan right. Adam Silver in particular

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<v Speaker 1>loves the EPL and we talked about this before on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. But Adam Silver is dying to add elements

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<v Speaker 1>of European soccer into the NBA. Why because the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>loves money and nothing makes more money than a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of random tournaments involved in soccer. Just as past October,

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<v Speaker 1>Silver let it known that he had actually considered relegation

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<v Speaker 1>relegation to eliminate tanking, which I would personally love. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that it would work, but it would be funny, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>could you imagine the LA Lakers being relegated? I just

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<v Speaker 1>love that so much. I would love that so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to see G League Ignite take the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers spot in the Western Conference. He's also though, Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Silver is on records saying that he's very jealous of

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<v Speaker 1>the Champions League, the European soccer tournament that pits the

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<v Speaker 1>top finishers in respect of European domestic leagues in months

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<v Speaker 1>long competition to see what team is best. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what Silver said to the BBC, which is a very

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<v Speaker 1>funny place for him to do an interview. The Champions

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<v Speaker 1>League is a fantastic concept, one we're always looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much that happens in European soccer that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>jealous of. What would he be jealous of? You think

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the Champions League, probably the one point

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<v Speaker 1>five billion dollars that CBS paid to broadcast the Champions

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<v Speaker 1>League just here in America alone, let alone the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the world. That's just icing. On top of the

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<v Speaker 1>other regional broadcast rights, the other rights that go for

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA as a whole, it's just a ching, ching, ching, ching,

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<v Speaker 1>money making machine. It's a one way river into Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Silver's pocket. That's a Yellowstone quote. Silver just gave an

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<v Speaker 1>interview in twenty eighteen where he noted, as head of

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA Entertainment before he became Commissioner, that he intently

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<v Speaker 1>studied the EPO's relationship with gambling companies and this deeply

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<v Speaker 1>informed the way that he and the league have navigated

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<v Speaker 1>the boom in sports betting in the US, and not

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<v Speaker 1>just like straight up gambling, but in licensing data and

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<v Speaker 1>video to gambling companies, which means what gambling companies are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the premier broadcaster of NBA NBA games

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<v Speaker 1>Just wait, NBA way ahead of other leagues in relation

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<v Speaker 1>to Silver's love of soccer. Right, so, the biggest change

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<v Speaker 1>that Silver is going to make is the in season tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about that before, he's been on record. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems very destined to happen in the next year or two.

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<v Speaker 1>And less than three weeks ago, it was announced that

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA is planning the twenty twenty three twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four regular season that includes that regular season attorney, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's an eighty game regular season and then two flex

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<v Speaker 1>games to fill the gaps for the tournament winners. I'm confused,

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<v Speaker 1>Silver said, It's something I remain excited about. It will

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<v Speaker 1>create more meaningful games, games of consequence during an otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>long regular season, and I think fans might enjoy something

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<v Speaker 1>else significant to play for as an aside, All NBA

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<v Speaker 1>teams had to give the NBA Front officer available home

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<v Speaker 1>dates for next year, so the schedule is already being

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<v Speaker 1>worked out right now as we speak. Those home dates include, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what day is Lady Gaga coming to perform at the

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<v Speaker 1>Motor Center, What day is Sting coming to the Madison

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<v Speaker 1>Square Garden, what openings do you guys have, and the

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<v Speaker 1>latest on the nd season tournament is that the first

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<v Speaker 1>round play will begin early in the season, with the

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<v Speaker 1>final eight facing off at a quarter final in December,

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<v Speaker 1>which would be right now. No prizes yet determined, but

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of an extra first round pick has been

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<v Speaker 1>floated out to the winner, which would be amazing. Could

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine could you imagine a team that has no

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<v Speaker 1>I mean back to the Lakers, team that has no

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<v Speaker 1>first round picks could kind of need a first round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know what to think about the Ncason Tournament because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if people are gonna care. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if the money of it and the pageantry of

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<v Speaker 1>it is gonna get fans to really be excited. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the NBA is a marketing machine. They'll find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to hype it up. They'll find ways to

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<v Speaker 1>get first take to talk about it, They'll find ways

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<v Speaker 1>to get Adam Silver to make it feel like an event.

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<v Speaker 1>But Adam Silver's love of soccer will continue to impact

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA and the World Cup. I think just underscored

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<v Speaker 1>how much these two sports could possibly maybe have in common.

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<v Speaker 1>Look Out for a Champions League type situation as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be something on the forefront also, Donovan Mitchell,

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<v Speaker 1>Rudy Gobert. That's the stuff that NBAT lovers can't get

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<v Speaker 1>enough of. So why did and does Donovan Mitchell hate

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<v Speaker 1>Rudy Gobert so much? Let's face it, Rudy Gobert is

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<v Speaker 1>a lightning rod. Rudy Gobert has been a lightning rod

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<v Speaker 1>for hate since he put his mouth on all those

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<v Speaker 1>microphones with COVID and shut the league down. Like we

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<v Speaker 1>know that, we know that that is something that got

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<v Speaker 1>Rudy Gobert to be the front and center poster boy

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<v Speaker 1>for COVID hate. It continues, though, it continues, which we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into in a second. But Donovan Mitchell didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>like Rudy or fuck with Rudy before everyone else did.

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<v Speaker 1>When asked recently whether Donovan Mitchell thinks his numbers should

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<v Speaker 1>be retired, Donovan Mitchell actually said no because he hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>accomplished enough in the time that he was with the

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<v Speaker 1>Utah Jazz in order for him to feel like his

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<v Speaker 1>jersey should be retired. I think that's true because Mark Spears,

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<v Speaker 1>who's been on a heater by the way as of late,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well you did you guys accomplished a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and Donald Mitchell was like, well, really did we? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>We accomplished like we gave up a bunch of three

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<v Speaker 1>one leads. We didn't really win anything of note. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even go to the Western Conference finals. We got

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<v Speaker 1>booted to inferior teams like Denver and Dallas. And they

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<v Speaker 1>asked them, well, okay, well why didn't you And Rudy like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't think the basketball worked and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you accomplished enough on the basketball floor, why do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that was? Is it your relationship with Rudy Gobert?

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, well, honestly, the basketball between me

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<v Speaker 1>and Rudy just didn't work. We live in a world

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<v Speaker 1>where it has to be just so negative, really negative.

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<v Speaker 1>Basketball just didn't work. We didn't see eye to eye.

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<v Speaker 1>We wanted to both win, but we wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>it in two different ways. It didn't work. Pause, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a fan of the Minnesota Timberwolves right now and

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<v Speaker 1>or your aunt Edwards, you gotta think to yourself, rot Row,

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<v Speaker 1>because if Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert couldn't work together

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<v Speaker 1>and they had two completely different visions about what it

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<v Speaker 1>would take to win, let me just say this. Donovan

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell and Aunt Edwards probably have closer ideas about what

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna take to win games. Then say I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know Aunt Edwards and Rudy Gobert do. That is very

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<v Speaker 1>very concerning. It on paper should work beautifully and it

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<v Speaker 1>has not unpaused as far as him and I go

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<v Speaker 1>as people. Donovan Mitchell later said, I don't hate him.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't hate me. I wouldn't say we're the best

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<v Speaker 1>of friends, but we're not at that point where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I can't stand him. Also pause, I've been in

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<v Speaker 1>situations where I say I don't hate this person, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't hate me. Are we friends? Are we close? Are

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<v Speaker 1>we buddies? No? As soon as you have to say

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<v Speaker 1>we're not friends either, you're you're nothing. At the very least,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not dapping each other up. If you see each

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<v Speaker 1>other at the bar, you're like, oh, yeah, there's Rudy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go this way. You don't like each other whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be honest, like there was no good feelings about it.

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<v Speaker 1>When you publicly say I don't hate someone, there's more

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<v Speaker 1>than just neutral feelings about it. You just don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to spend the energy explaining and then creating a beef,

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<v Speaker 1>and then people asking Rudy about why and whether he

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<v Speaker 1>dislikes you as much as you dislike him. So that's bullshit,

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<v Speaker 1>Donovan continued. I wished him the best. There's no hatred,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no ill will towards any of that. Basketball just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work out. It happens. Our relationship just happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little more out there than everybody else's. But honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it really started with COVID. He's like, listen, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>dislike him. I don't hate him. Everybody thinks that we did,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, there was all this publicity about how

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<v Speaker 1>I never gave him any passes and over lobbed in

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, sit together in the lunch room, I unfollowed

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<v Speaker 1>him on Instagram. All that stuff's kind of bullshit. But

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<v Speaker 1>really it happened and started with COVID. I disliked him.

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<v Speaker 1>I just liked him when he rubbed his fucking face

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<v Speaker 1>on the microphones and shut our league down and almost

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<v Speaker 1>gave me COVID when I thought I could still die

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<v Speaker 1>from COVID, and we had to sit in a fucking

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<v Speaker 1>locker room for twelve hours together and nobody could stay

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<v Speaker 1>in a hotel because all hotels were afraid of anyone

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<v Speaker 1>having COVID near their people, and we had to just

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<v Speaker 1>basically be on lockdown in Oklahoma City. So yeah, fuck

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<v Speaker 1>that guy. Then that was when it all started, the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he said, yeah, really, it started with COVID

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<v Speaker 1>tells you everything you need to do. People forget that

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<v Speaker 1>the world was so pissed at Rudigobert that his PR

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<v Speaker 1>team somehow convinced ESPN to do a complete documentary on

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<v Speaker 1>Rudy Goobert this offseason during the pandemic. I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>ran that we've had. The only central theme was that

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<v Speaker 1>Rudy Gobert wasn't as bad as you think he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that was the entire concept of the documentary, And

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<v Speaker 1>that was a lie, obviously, because Rudy Gobert, Truthfully, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've seen it, Rudy Gobert continues to

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<v Speaker 1>be exactly the asshole that we thought he was, because

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<v Speaker 1>just last week, Rudy Gobert liked a tweet from Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk VI said Elon Musk's preferred pronouns are prosecute fauci.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you fucking serious? Are you kidding me? Could you

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<v Speaker 1>put together homophobia, transphobia, and anti vax all in one

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen word tweet? Are you serious? Who comes after people

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<v Speaker 1>for their preferred pronouns and also says they want to

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<v Speaker 1>prosecute Fauci? And if you're an NBA player, you should

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<v Speaker 1>know these tweets that you like are public. They are

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<v Speaker 1>all public. And then you throw in the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Rudy Gobert, his teammate, lost seven members of his family,

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<v Speaker 1>which is almost inconceivable. Karl Anthony Towns lost seven family

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<v Speaker 1>members to COVID, including his mom who was not old whatsoever,

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<v Speaker 1>and he decides to like a tweet that says to

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<v Speaker 1>prosecute Fauci for what shutting our league down, shutting our

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<v Speaker 1>world down at a time where I don't know something

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<v Speaker 1>that has happened once in every three hundred years. He's

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<v Speaker 1>telling people to be careful and wear masks and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>stay inside, like you like that tweet, Rudy, when you

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<v Speaker 1>gave the world COVID? Are you serious? Along with my

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<v Speaker 1>desired pronouns? I wonder this and I'd like you guys

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<v Speaker 1>to give me your thoughts too. Is Rudy Gobert the

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<v Speaker 1>most unlikable player in the NBA. I think he is.

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<v Speaker 1>He is to me. I there is no one that

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<v Speaker 1>gets a more visceral reaction just by his name alone

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<v Speaker 1>than Rudie Gobert. If there's something redeeming to him, someone

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<v Speaker 1>tell me, but I can't see it.