1 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Ah beat force. If it doesn't work, you're just not 2 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to Software Radio, Special Operations, military 3 00:00:25,560 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: news and straight talk with the guys and the community. 4 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: There we go Software dot Com on time on target. 5 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: Ian Scott. Oh, here, I'm here with the very sophisticated 6 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: looking Sean Spots today. How are you doing? Because I 7 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: know you're in town basically helping out Brandon with his 8 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: upcoming buck with some things like that. I readed this 9 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: suit there's a place just up the street and switch 10 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: out of shorts and T shirts hot in New York today, 11 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah, absolutely, but great to see you. 12 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: I so just to give some background before Sean explains 13 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: his background, which I feel like if you've been with 14 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: the site for a long time, have been reading the article, 15 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: as you're already familiar with Scott and what he does. Um, Scott, 16 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: I just said, Scott when I say I'm losing my 17 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: mind here Sean Sean Spots, Why am I saying Scott? 18 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: It'll help him, it'll help them be familiar with me 19 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: if they don't my name. Yeah, and and also I've 20 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: known you for such a long time. But anyway, um, 21 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: before where we getting into your background. Um, yeah, you're 22 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: you're in town promoting what is going to be an 23 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: upcoming book from Brandon's new book, Mastering Fear Navy Seals Guide, 24 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: breaks out on August seven. I'm excited for it. Yeah, 25 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: it's a great read, by the way, and if you 26 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: if you're a parent with children, this is a book 27 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: that I think resonates a lot. I was a father 28 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: of three myself. Kids are always worried about going forward 29 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: in life, the fear of failure and how to master 30 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: their own fears to do a lot of avoiding behaviors, 31 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: and Brendan's books about an entirely in a different way 32 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: of dealing with fear. And I think if you're a 33 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: parent with kids at high school age, there's a lot 34 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: of stuff in here that beuseful to your kids. Yeah. Absolutely, 35 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: so be on lookout that off the top of yod 36 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: do you remember the release date or be August seventh? 37 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: August seventh, But you could pre order now right everything 38 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: every place you would normally go in buy a book 39 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: Mastering Fear Navy Seal God's available. It's a Target and 40 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: Walmart and Books a million, Barnes and Noble. I'm sure 41 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: I'm forgetting like three or four. Um. It's also of 42 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: course available on Amazon form and if you pre order. 43 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: If you pre order, there's some stuff that comes from 44 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: the publisher that's really nice and including a mastering, fear window, decale, 45 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: a patch, and athletics shire And I believe you know, 46 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: if you give improof purchase, he said that he'll sign it. 47 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: He's done that before, so I I believe that that's 48 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: the case. Still. Yeah, he's always been great about that. 49 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: If somebody sends a book to him with a proof 50 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: of purchase, he'll he'll personalize and mail it back to 51 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: be fair. I even remember someone sending it way past 52 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: the day they were supposed to and he was like, alright, 53 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: fine sign this um. But so basically, UM, before we 54 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: get into Shawn's background, as I was saying, a few 55 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: weeks back, Sean hit me up and was like, you know, 56 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember the the article that 57 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: I wrote on the Malaysian flight, and which was of 58 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: course Malaysian Flight three seventy. And from what you were 59 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: telling me, there's going to be a government released by 60 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: the Malaysian government on July a new report on that, 61 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: and I I figured, yeah, when Jack is away, which 62 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: is going to be for the you know, next month 63 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: and a half. I was like, let's revisit this in 64 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: what better time than now to talk about that. It's 65 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: been three years and hard to believe the government's going 66 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: to throw out the report on the thirtieth. This is 67 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: a very strange actually been four years before. It's been 68 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: that long. And there's a really kind of a strange 69 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: incidence because there's so many countries involved in it. Because 70 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: the passengers were American and Chinese and Australian and Malaysian, 71 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: and they were from all over the world, so everybody's 72 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: government I wanted to get involved in this thing. And uh, 73 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: it's almost been a mess from the start. If anybody can, 74 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: if you go back and refresh your memory on how 75 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: the Malaysian government handled this. At the beginning, they would 76 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: they would release a piece of information and the next 77 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: day release a new piece of information that contradicted the 78 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: one they released yesterday. And they did this for like 79 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: two weeks, and it was one of the most confusing 80 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: things you've ever seen in your our life, and trying 81 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: to keep up with things and they've got nowhere, you 82 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: got nowhere closer to where they were four years ago 83 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: in terms of figuring out what what the hell happened 84 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: to the airplane? So yeah, and I want to get 85 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: into every single one of these theories. Um, and I 86 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: know that you were extremely well researched on your indestructible laptop. 87 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: We're trying to keep it to the top twenty conspiracy 88 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: theories what actually happened. But um, before we do, I'd 89 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: love for you to tell everybody your background. As I said, 90 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: I feel like if people have been with the site 91 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: for a while, you were really reading Brandon's work before 92 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: you started, you know, doing things with us prior to 93 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: before myself even coming on board, and your former navy 94 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: as while that you're talking, yeah, I'm I. I started 95 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: reading Brandon's work way way back on another military website, 96 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: and uh, he had put out something saying, look, I'm 97 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: gonna start my own thing. If anybody would like to 98 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: be a part of, you know, initial readership, you know, 99 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: send an email. So I did a bunch of a 100 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: bunch of other people. So I was there one software 101 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: launched on the first day first post, and that was 102 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: in the Dodge City saloon, days before there was a paywall. 103 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: So when software would do a story that involves c. 104 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: Jesse Ventre or Alex Jones or something like that would 105 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: get mobbed by all these troll fans that would then 106 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: you know, go after the site and you know, go 107 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: back to Brandon Jack Murphy and just kind of like 108 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: the Internet villages with the pitchforks and the torches starting 109 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: to burn the place down. So I was a part 110 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: of those early days of trying to suppress that nonsense 111 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: and things just went from my military experiences. You know, 112 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: it's not legendary um compared to the guys that are 113 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: my my friends and acquaintances and peers. But I was 114 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: aviation any submering warfare operators, search to rescue crewmen on 115 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: the old s H two f C spiked platforms with 116 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: a just L thirty six in Mayport. And you're still, 117 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: you know, going back so battling these people on the site. 118 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: You're still like the guy who combats the trolls. That's 119 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: good thing, you know, since the paywall's I'm really out 120 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: of that job. Even on Twitter, I think on Twitter, yeah, 121 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: some of that I do have like a small clientele 122 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: that I mean says hey I need some help. You know, 123 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what you would call that like being 124 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: a tweet slinger or something like that. But that's a 125 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: tactic on Twitter is is somebody will say something you 126 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: don't like, and instead of actually addressing what they actually say, 127 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: you go after them personally. And there's you know, there's 128 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: always a And what I find with mostly people is 129 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,559 Speaker 1: always the same group. It's not like people like Brending 130 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: webber Jack if you have all new enemies. It's the 131 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: same old guys doing the same old thing that they 132 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: have been doing for years. And all they need is 133 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: an opportunity, a tweet, a word, an event for them 134 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: to just jump out of the woodwork again into the 135 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: whole thing. They're Jack and Brandon and other guys live 136 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: rent free in these people's heads um seven seven days 137 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: a week. So that's that's just the witness. Yeah, I 138 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: would agree as someone who's been here for like quite 139 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: a decent amount of time, I see the exact same 140 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: thing you do. So you know, occasionally you will write 141 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: something as you did with this Malaysia flight article, but 142 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: you want to just explain, like in what capacity that 143 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: are a part of it? Yeah, Well, four years ago, 144 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: when the when the original conspiracy theory started to come out. 145 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: They were bordering on the complete ridiculous. General mcinnerney was 146 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: at the one. Yeah, you know what, I but but 147 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: I just mean, like your capacity with hurricane and you know, 148 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: working with everybody. I don't know if you want to 149 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: explain it. Yeah, it's it's yeah today, that's not that's 150 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: not the main thing. Yeah, you know, but but we all, 151 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, work together on certain projects here and there, 152 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: and um, you've helped this out a lot actually with 153 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: some charitable events recently and things. Yeah. Yeah, we actually 154 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: responded if if you're out there listening, go to software website. 155 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: We're trying to raise some money to help the Michael 156 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: Murphy Memorial Scholarship Foundation. What happened on Long Island. You know, 157 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: the outpouring of that was tremendous. I mean I called 158 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: the I called ABC two right after this thing happened 159 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: and said, look, you know, we'd like to help, and 160 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: they said we've we've already got the repairs covered ten 161 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: minutes after the broadcast, and then the governor steps up 162 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: and says, oh, we're gonna you know, we're gonna spend 163 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: state state money to fix that thing. So we still 164 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: want to do something for I mean outside just the 165 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: destruction on that memorial, which was done by a kid. 166 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: It's it's not a fourteen year old kid. Yeah, you 167 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: know people online saying oh this is you know, politically 168 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: motivates like, you know what, just hold on for a 169 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: second week because this may not be that. This may 170 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: just be somebody doing something dumb. Sure enough, it's some 171 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: fourteen year old kid who just did something really stupid, 172 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: brought the hate of the world down on them. All 173 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: the things you could bust up. But the Memorial Scholarship 174 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: Foundation really does some great work and we're working with 175 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: them on a raffle. We've got some great gear that's 176 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: been donated by our Great Club subsidiary, about worth of stuff. 177 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: Memorial Foundation kicked in a couple of things. Do they 178 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: wanted to give us everything? Like no, no, no, we'll 179 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: just take a couple of matches. We want to do 180 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: the rest of this for you. So if you're if 181 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: you can check out the site look for the raffle. 182 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: There's a discount on on tickets by volume, and we're 183 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: trying to raise about five thousand dollars for him. Um. 184 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: They handed out sixteen scholarships last year. Full scholarships to college. 185 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: So it's a great organ say sens a great cause, 186 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: and we really like to try and help the small charities. 187 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: It means the big ones they don't need our help 188 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: multimagnan daughter fundraising operations, but for some of these small charmys, 189 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: we'd like to try and highlight their work and hopefully 190 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: send some help to them. I think the family even 191 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: responded with all these like you know, send this kid 192 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: to prison for life or something. What they responded, from 193 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: what I saw, is pretty responsible. Where they were like, 194 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: maybe you should volunteer to be a And if he 195 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: did have to volunteer to be a for a long 196 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: period of time, I think he'd really regret doing what 197 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: he did. And I think that actually Marcus Latrell's had 198 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: given to me for the summer, I think that's where 199 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: regret would really start. You know, a kid would come 200 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: back with callus is on his nose, you know he'd 201 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: worked to death. But I'm still kind of the families 202 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: actually apparently very forgiving of the kids. Sounds fourteen, you know, 203 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: so that's not that's not the age where you really 204 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: know your stuff. As far as I know, the kid 205 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: isn't like a permanent. Ne're do well with a lengthy 206 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: criminal record, But I you do think, like, you know, 207 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: maybe the parents didn't raise this kid the right way, 208 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: because if you were, you would know that, you know, 209 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: you don't deface a memorial like that, and that you 210 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: should have respect for our military, especially gold star families. Well, yeah, absolutely. 211 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if I can respect dead people, you're not 212 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna much respect for life people either. And you know, 213 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: Michael Murphy was a legitimate American hero. So then again, 214 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: this is a kid, So he's got his whole life 215 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: in front of him, and I'm sure he's going to 216 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: be living with us for the rest of his life. 217 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: But it's not the same thing as somebody who's a 218 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, a hater of our veterans or hater of 219 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: Lieutenan Murphy in person doing something like this. This was 220 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: a kid who did and kids do impulsive things. So 221 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: I hope his parents get straight get him straightened out. Um. Actually, 222 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: if I was, if I was the father, he'd be, 223 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: he'd be at Marcus Lattrell's ranch right now. So you're 224 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: going with him for the summer, you know, Yeah, I 225 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: don't want to look at you for a couple of 226 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: months yether, I get it. Man. Well, all right, So 227 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: getting into the topic at hand, here Malaysia flight at 228 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: three seventy, which took place in March. You wrote an article. 229 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: When did you? I'm just I had it up when 230 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: you wrote your actual article was because I want to 231 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: make sure I have the dates right. You wrote an 232 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: article in March twenty yea. So a few days after that, 233 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: and it seemed like from what you told me, you 234 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: got a little bit of backwash, and it turned out 235 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: that everything you were saying was really debunking these cookie 236 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories. Frankly that came in. Some of them were nuts. 237 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: I mean, some of the major networks were putting people 238 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: on television saying that this airplane disappeared in a black 239 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: hole before it had been seized by aliens, or uh, 240 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: let's see what was the what was the other one? 241 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: There was another one about remote hijacking, that somebody was 242 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: able to hack the airplane by by remote control and 243 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: fly it to some secret base somewhere. So this is 244 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: what the news coverage was like on this for for 245 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: three or four days afterwards. None of it was useful. 246 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it was wishcraft kind of stuff. On national television. 247 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: So I reached out some people I know, one of 248 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: whom was an airline pilot, what was a flight engineer 249 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: on seven seven and there had been a senior master's 250 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: charge in the Air Force on one forty one. Starlifters 251 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: A guy, I know what NASA. That's a that's a math? 252 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: Was that actually literally as a NASA rocket scientist works 253 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: on works on rocket fuel formulas and things like that. 254 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: And in talking to them about this, where like, none 255 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: of this, none of this makes sense. Actually, the entire 256 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: scenario of the plane disappearing didn't make any sense. So 257 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: we looked at the airplane and what it did from 258 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: the system standpoint. So when an airplane experiences an emergency, 259 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: there are systems on the aircraft that do certain things 260 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,599 Speaker 1: that give off indications. That ended up debunking most of 261 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: these conspiracy theories almost on their own. It was General 262 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: McInerney I think that was saying that the plane had 263 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: gone to Pakistan. Yeah, and that's, by the way, so 264 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: that's General McInnerny um, former United States Air Force General 265 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: It If you guys remember who are fans of the site. 266 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: Jack Murphy wrote an article about McInnerny a while back, 267 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: kind of exposure. And this guy is um pretty uh 268 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: pretty much known for getting very conspiratorial about things, and 269 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: this was a prime example. Right, Oh absolutely, but no 270 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: no information, just a complete concocted idea that this plane 271 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: was in package and that's it. Yeah, that it was 272 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: going to be flown to Pakistan, passengers offloaded, presumably all 273 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: taken and shot without anybody you know, objecting or getting upset, 274 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: and then the airplane was going to be loaded with 275 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: explosives and then come back and hit something, which was great, 276 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: it would be a fun novel, but there's no basis 277 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: in fact in that. So our piece basically looked at 278 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: these theories and then said, look, you know, this is impossible. 279 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: It's not just unlikely, it's impossible because, like with mcinnerni's theory, 280 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: two things. In order for the plane to make it 281 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: to Pakistan, it had to have uh so it had 282 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: to be used all of it's fuel. In order for 283 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: it to get there on the fuel that carried it 284 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: had to fly a cruising altitude and speed. Well, the 285 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: cruising altitude and speed it would have been visible on radar, 286 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: and yet we know that it wasn't on radar. Nobody 287 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: tracked that airplane into Pakistan. And the other thing is 288 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: that airplanes and runways have to match. Runways have a 289 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: pavement classification writing and the aircraft has a weight rating. 290 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: So you can't just land a triple seven, which is 291 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: like a seven forties and jumbo jet size airplane on 292 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: any runway in the country. It has to be especially 293 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: built runway to handle those kind of weightloads. Or you 294 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: set down, leave the landing gear basically where you put 295 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: down on the runaway and the rest of the airplane 296 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: keeps going. It just digs in and rips the gear 297 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: off and you have a ten seconds from disaster, fire 298 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: or reel. So that was my contention about the Pakistan thing. Well, okay, 299 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: if they went to Pakistan, which one way to the 300 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: land on, there's only a couple in Pakistan that can 301 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: take that, and there's civilian runways. So who landed this 302 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: Malaysian airline and everybody's looking for on a civil you 303 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: know pack in Karachi without anybody seeing it, and what 304 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: did they do with it? And we have satellite heart 305 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: over Pakistan, they're not orbiting their part looking down Because 306 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: the borders between Indian Pakistan and China are a little 307 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: contentious and there are always you know, pointing rockets in 308 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: artillery one another. So we're watching what's going on there 309 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: all the time. That airliner would be visible. You're not 310 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: going to miss that airplane sitting on a runway somewhere. 311 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: And the hangars to stick them in they're not they're 312 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: not widely available. You put an air plane a hanger 313 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: to fix it, you wall back out again. You don't 314 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: store airplanes and hangars. They sit outside. The same things 315 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: from the same planes were made about the airplane being 316 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: stowed in dar You go see it, and again I said, fine, 317 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: where did they put it? There's no hangar big enough 318 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: for that on the island. And that island is a 319 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: jointly administered military base by the Nonstates, Great Britain, New 320 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: Zealand and Australia. It's all military personals and civilians. So 321 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: nobody talks this. Malaysian airliners just lands there and you 322 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: should take all the passagers and shoot them. Everybody's just 323 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: gonna keep the mouth shut right now. It doesn't work 324 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: that way. If you want to conspire s, you know, 325 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: work the fewer people involved in the better. Once you 326 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: get past three or four people, somebody gets somebody starts 327 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: to talk. So all these things that we're out there 328 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: were failed to take into account what the actual airplane 329 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: probably did. Our theory, which was done by eliminating the 330 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: things that just could not have happened to the airplane, 331 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: like like being abducted by space alien things like that. 332 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: As far as we know, the space ailings don't have 333 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: that technology yet to abdoct air line and plane. They 334 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: haven't done it before. But um, looking at the thing, 335 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: we we saw some things that we're glaing. One we 336 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: believe that the pilot of the copilot probably acted together because, um, 337 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: while the airplane was flying, the co pilot was on 338 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 1: the radios with the upbranding talking to the tower. Now 339 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: while he was talking to the town. Generally an airline 340 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: is the non flying pilot is the one that operates 341 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: the radios. He's talking to the to the towers and 342 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: handing in our traffic control. And while he was doing that, 343 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: we know that the plane was changing course and taking 344 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: on a new flight plan, which means the pilot had 345 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: to program that in and a co pilot would have said, skipper, 346 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Well, he didn't. He just proceeded. 347 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: Everything was normal and the pilot would have The copilot 348 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: would have noticed when he turned off the A car systems, 349 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: and he would have noticed when he turned off the radios. 350 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: Anyone who knows when he turned everything that would have 351 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: helped on locate the plane. All those things would have 352 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: been done out of the normal outside checklist, and a 353 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: copilot would have said, hey, what are you doing? Stop now. 354 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: We thought about whether he might have locked the co 355 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: pilot out of the aircraft, but you know, there is 356 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: a fire axe on that plane, so it's not as 357 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: if you couldn't get past that door again if you 358 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: had to do. Plus, there's also VHF radio that's down 359 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: in the stewardess sort of kitchen compartment. There is another radio. 360 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: You could have gone down there, turned that thing on 361 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: and squawked that they were in trouble. You know that 362 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: the pilot had taken over the plane. So we we believe. 363 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: We also believe looking at some of the stuff that 364 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: they claimed the airplane did, it was impossible. At the 365 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: very edge of the radar track of Kalum Poorly airplane 366 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: was said have made this crazy turn on this descent 367 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: of like twelve thousand feet in a few seconds. We 368 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: don't believe that's that's what actually happened. What we believe 369 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: is that that was at the very edge of the 370 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: radar range. It's a radar anomaly where the return signal 371 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: is weak because it's at the very outside edge of 372 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: the radar detection range, and that can give you a 373 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: strange signal. Planes can look into stranger things. We do 374 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: believe the plane did descend. We don't think it couldn't 375 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: descend twelve thou feet in a few seconds. It just 376 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: could not. It's not capable of doing it. Uh. Do 377 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: we think the plane turned north into the into the 378 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: Gulf of Siam and then crossed across the narrow isthmus 379 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: of Malaysian and a Mayan mar thing. They actually did 380 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: detect the plane doing that a low altitude and low speed, 381 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: but they didn't know it was an airliner because the 382 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: radar they're using just gave them a target, but didn't 383 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: give them a size of the aircraft. It's not a 384 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: skin painting radar that looks at the whole shape. It 385 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: can tell you, Okay, that's an airliner. Uh. And then 386 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: we think it flew out. It flew out into the 387 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: Indian Ocean between a pair of lanes that are incoming 388 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: and outbound airline lanes several hundred miles between them, and 389 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: this is inbound and outbound aircraft, air traffic for the 390 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: Middle East from Europe, Madagascar, all that that flies into Asia. 391 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: And we think he was sitting out there in between those, 392 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: flying circling low at a low altitude. Nobody would even 393 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: notice him out there. He wouldn't be invisible on radar, 394 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: and nobody's going to see him because nobody flies between 395 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: those two lanes. Typically, nobody flies cross traffic between that. 396 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: It's all the north south stuff and you they don't 397 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: want you crossing between those lines. And there's nobody else. 398 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: There's no reason really for anybody else to be out 399 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: there for any other reason. The Australians didn't see it. 400 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: They should have. They had a tremendous early warning airborne radar, 401 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: early warning ground and airborne radar system that was in place, 402 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: but apparently they had been turned off that night. They 403 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: were doing some maintenance on on the system on Christmas Island. 404 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: That should have seen the airplane and it didn't. So 405 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: we think what his plans were was and this is 406 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: all about onwards, This is all about politics. In Malaysia, 407 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: You've had a Islamist fundamentalist government known to be significantly corrupt, 408 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: a lot of opposition to that government by the more 409 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: secular Rise forces. The opposition leader had just been sentenced 410 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: and trumped up charges on like child ball station. They 411 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: were going to throw him in prison for the rest 412 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: of his life. And the pilot, Mohammed, was not a Muslim, 413 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: even though they were trying to portray originally as a 414 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: as a terrorist. And the name Mohammed typically think much, well, 415 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: it's the most common name, apparently in the world as 416 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: Mohammed Um. I guess it doesn't always mean what we think. 417 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: At me, he's automatically maybe they had I p I 418 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: hopes he would be a Muslim and he's disappointed to 419 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: his family. But if our read on it looking at 420 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: him personally, as we think he may have been an atheist, 421 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: he was certainly a secularist. I mean his Muslim family, 422 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: May I mean you hear the name Mohammed, Oh yeah, 423 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 1: no doubt. I'm sure. I'm sure his family was Muslim. 424 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: But you know he had Richard Dawkins videos on his 425 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: YouTube channel, was famous atheists and ideological atheist. Although then again, 426 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: look at what they found on Osama's laptop. Disney movies, Yeah, 427 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that you wouldn't typically think it fundamentalist. 428 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: Was a big fan of Twenty Links under the Sea 429 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: apparently so um, but Disney movies are pretty benign. I 430 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: think if you were, you know, a Muslim, you could 431 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 1: watch most Disney movies without getting to us. Yeah. I'm 432 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: just thinking, like, is it possible he was researching atheist theories? 433 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I get what you're saying, though this guy 434 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: was not an Islamic fundamentalists, Like that wasn't what the motivation. 435 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: We didn't find any evidence that he was. We didn't 436 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: find any screeds you know, denouncing America. Are you know, 437 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: denouncing his reel or Yeah, we didn't find anything like that. 438 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: But we did find was the guy that was, you know, 439 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: wearing Democracy is Dead shirts after the opposition party got 440 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: kind of jepped in an election. We know that the 441 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: guy was a big you know, love to coke. It 442 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: was a big footie. We know he built model airplanes 443 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 1: with I love deviation. He was a senior pilot from 444 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: Malaysian Airlines. There was nothing in his background to suggest 445 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: that he was you know, an Islamic fundamentalist. In fact, 446 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: everything kind of pointed away from that to us, especially 447 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: the stuff about atheism and pro democracy that just doesn't 448 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: generally lend itself towards Islamic extremism. So we think what 449 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: he did, and we think he acted, you know, with 450 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: in concept with this other guy in a patriotic sense 451 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: in the opposition party. But I don't think the opposition 452 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: party actually knew what about the people who were on 453 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: that plane, the passengers, Because there's been a lot of 454 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: theories about that. I think the one that makes the 455 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: most sense. I mean, I've heard some crazy stuff that 456 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, they were trying to cover up oregon harvesting 457 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: and some other nonsense like that. But I think the 458 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: real key and the passagers is that the Chinese, Chinese 459 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: passengers that were a board were not tourists. They were businessmen, 460 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: party members and China important people. They all vanished, with 461 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty six of them. I think that 462 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, we're on that plane vanished without choice. China 463 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: is a great, big country and business business interests and 464 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: ties in with Malaysian manufacturing, its cell phones and electronics, 465 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: all kinds of things. And the thing with Asia is 466 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: about face. You know, it's a real embarrassing thing to 467 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: have a hundred and twenty six Chinese nationals all just 468 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: die on an airline flight, and it's not like it's 469 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: not like the West, where we just step up and 470 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: go yeah and up and we're very sorry with them, 471 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: and there's a sort of avoidance of trying to maintain faces. 472 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: They're gone. So we think some of what Malaysia did 473 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: was animated by not wanting to look incompetent in front 474 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: of China who was asking some very very point of 475 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: questions about where did our people go, because it wasn't 476 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: tourists on vacation, it was business people. It was kiding exactly, 477 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: which is why people think there's some political motivation for crashing. Well, 478 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: I think if if I was shot, when I think 479 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: Sean did, I think Sean basically figured out somewhere to 480 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: communicate with the government after he took the plane, saying 481 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: I want to charge his vacated against against don Wire 482 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: or I'm going to take this plane crashing into the 483 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: ce Remember they didn't report the plane missing for four 484 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: hours after it was gone. Four hours a long time, 485 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: and why was it four hours? Why did they wait 486 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: that long. I mean within an hour they knew the 487 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: plane was missing. Of course, it was supposed to be 488 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: hidden for pe King. Now it's gone, nobody knows where 489 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: it is. I think in those four hours what you 490 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: had was the government Shaw negotiating, and I think they 491 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: tried to string Shaw out, maybe bluffing, and he didn't. 492 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: They didn't get away with it. He figured out he 493 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: was getting played and they were trying to find the 494 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: airplane while he was, you know, while he was negotiating 495 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: with him. And I actually don't think on War who 496 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: was the opposition who's now in charge of the country. 497 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: By the way, the Islamist compnanment was kicked out. I 498 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: don't think they knew anything about it because when they 499 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: asked on War about it. Do you know this guy? 500 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: Because I don't know. No, I've never heard of him. 501 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: You don't know Muhammed shup, Nope, you know, no, don't 502 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: he's like married to one year Elevans donated to your campaign. 503 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: There's pictures of you guys together. Oh that mommage right right, 504 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: the relative of my sister that donates to my campaign. 505 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: That I know him, sure, I know who he is. 506 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: I know who he is. So at first they did 507 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: not knowing. I mean that's why I think they didn't know. 508 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: It was like we didn't know um and abandoned the guy. 509 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: But I think what Shaw was gonna do if he 510 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: was successful, was fly the plane to Australia because there 511 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: was a there's a runway there, that's a joint Quantis 512 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: Royal Royal Australian Air Force base there that can take 513 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: that runway, can take that aircraft is weight and it 514 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: would have turned himself in for air piracy, but he 515 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: would have been in prison in Australia, not in Malaysia. 516 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: So if he was able to get those charges against 517 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: Shaw vacated, I mean a more vacated, then I think 518 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: that was the plane go to Australia, turned myself in, 519 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: liberate my country, beer hero. We still don't know this 520 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: for certain, but there were reports at the time that 521 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: Shaw Samiley left the country a week to ten days 522 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: before his flight and went to Australia. Very suspicious. Actually, 523 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: we have a hard time even lucking that down because 524 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: then it was low they didn't leave the country or 525 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: they didn't go to aust There was all these things 526 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: almost like the Malaysia government did not want to confirm 527 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: anything that made it look as if seaw did this 528 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: for a local reason. But we also don't believe the 529 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: plane ditched in the water because, uh, the evidence that 530 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: they found in the aircraft almost none, very much suggests 531 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: a high speed impact on the water versus versus a ditching. 532 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: That if they had ditched that airplane the water, they 533 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: would have found it floating. The plane would have been 534 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: out of fuel. It is full of water tight compartments, 535 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: your fuel tank, spaces, all that stuff, your fly control services, 536 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: most of it, a sealed passenger cabin that's closed up. 537 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: There's an awful of stuff and that I keep that 538 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: airplane floating. It would pieces that have broken up would 539 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: have broken off in the whole sections, wing tail, things 540 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: like that. A lot of that stuff would would not 541 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: have sunk. It would have stayed on the surface. You 542 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: would have had a wide debris field with bags and 543 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: seats and cushions and all kinds of stuff. They didn't 544 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: find any of that. Do you think the four hour 545 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: weight time is a big factor and why we've found nothing, 546 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: You know, because at a certain amount of time, pieces 547 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: are going to scatter about and sink, and it's very 548 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: possible you know, the Indian Ocean is unspeakably huge, exactly. 549 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: Australians called it the Great Western Sea, like they look 550 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: at it and they they don't even know what to 551 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: make it. But most of it is completely unexplored. It 552 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: is unbelievably deep water in most places, you know, mild 553 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: deep depths or nothing. Remember they originally thinking they were 554 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: looking in in an ocean of about five thousand feet 555 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: and saying, oh, we're gonna have a hard time. Well, 556 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: it's a hard time to get a submersible five thousand 557 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: feet down. I mean, that's that's a that's a lot 558 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: of technology to get a camera that can look stay 559 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: together at five thousand feet while up being crushed by 560 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: by the pressure deaths. So uh, it's very difficult to 561 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: find anything that far out there in the middle of 562 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: the ocean. There's a lot of there's a lot of 563 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: ocean out there, and they will fly in at five 564 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: thousand feet doing their air search. And I've done air searches, 565 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: and you do those in a helicopter under a thousand 566 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: feet because at five thousand feet, a man from a 567 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: mile away is a speck on the water. Just look 568 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 1: line aside a mile away and see if you can 569 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: see human being. I mean, that's very hard to make. 570 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: And if you're talking about water with whitecaps and all that, 571 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: you're not going to see. You have to have very 572 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: big degree. That's why they were flying at that altitude, 573 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: believing the complainted dish. They thought they were going to 574 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: see whole wing section stale sections, with the entire airplane 575 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 1: still floating in the water, mostly sung, but still float. 576 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: I didn't find anything. And all these years later, Yeah, well, 577 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: and this goes back to what I was saying before 578 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: about the ments size. I mean, we knew where the 579 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: Titanic sung, they had the coordinates. It still took seventy 580 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: years to find the ship. Seventy years and they just 581 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 1: found an airplane in the woods in Michigan that's been 582 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: missing twenty years. It's seventeen miles away from the airport 583 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: it was trying to land at and it had been 584 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: missing for twenty years and nobody could find it. This 585 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: is in Michigan. This isn't the Yukon territory. This is 586 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, vast trackless, trackless lands. This is in Michigan. 587 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: And this plane was gone for twenty years and nobody 588 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: knew what happened to the husband and wife that we're 589 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: flying it so we can lose an airplane just about anywhere. 590 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: Part of what you were saying to me prior to 591 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: us recording was that the reason we don't know anything 592 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: from the government end is they don't want us to 593 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: do anything. You know that if you look at this 594 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: like I have, there's this sort of pattern of the 595 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: Malaysian government literally getting in their own way, literally getting 596 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: in their own way, and as far as they're concerned, 597 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: right now, the investigation is over. And then why why 598 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: is there going to be a new report released on 599 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: the Then? Whoa do you suspect it's going to be nothing. 600 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: I think the report's going to be we can't find 601 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: the plan. We have nowhere idea where to look, and 602 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: I think it just makes them look. But we're trying, 603 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: like and we're done looking. You know, the Malaysians spent 604 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: about a hundred million dollars on a search of custom 605 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: about a hundred eighty million dollars in the Chinese and 606 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: Australians in the US. We all kind of chipped in 607 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: to try and help here. None of it is work. 608 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you could keep looking for the plane, but 609 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: how much money do you spend because you're looking forward 610 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: on something that growthly the size of the Atlantic Ocean. 611 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: You have no idea where the thing went down, and 612 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't think they're ever going to find the airplane intact, 613 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: if that's what they're looking for. We think the plane 614 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: was all but vaporized on impact. What they have found 615 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: so far that their claiming belongs to the airplane is 616 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: very consistent with a high speed impact on the water. 617 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: Now that the only good thing you can really say 618 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: about this is that the passengers board never suffered a bit. 619 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: They would have been snuffed out in an instant. They 620 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: would never have known even what happened to them, so 621 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: they didn't suffer. There's no reason in my mind that 622 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: Shaw really was bent on this, that he would ditch 623 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: the plane the water and let everybody drown, because that's 624 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: literally what you'll be talking. Well, you know what's the 625 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: cool thing about this piece, which, by the way, if 626 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: you guys want to read it, it's up. It's called 627 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: all right, good night? Does Belasia want to know what 628 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: happened to Flight MH three seventy which will be re 629 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: released um soon as well, But it's up on the site. 630 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: Right now. If you just want to google that, you'll 631 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: see it come up. Written by Sean of course in 632 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: um March. So you wrote this just a couple of 633 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: weeks after a few days, and then it went up 634 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit after that for the site. And 635 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: the two things that are remarkable. For one, this as 636 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: you were telling me, the piece was absolutely huge in 637 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: terms of the amount of hits that got. The only 638 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: thing that really overshadowed it was and you know, understandably 639 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: so Jack's piece about what happened to have been a 640 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: lot of incredible story. How did it have not been 641 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 1: for that this would have been by far the biggest 642 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: piece on the site. But the other thing that really 643 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: stands out is that it's one of those things where 644 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: almost like when Brandon and Jack wrote ben Ghazi the 645 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: Definitive Report, people were saying, it's a little bit earlier, 646 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: but it still holds up today. You wrote this piece 647 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: four years ago some people were a little skeptical of 648 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: of debunking these conspiracy theories, and four years later, everything 649 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: that you wrote holds up. So far, there's not hadn't 650 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: been much to contradict it. In fact, there's been some 651 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: things that kind of tangentially confirmed that there was a 652 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: story about two years after we wrote the piece that 653 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: was a former Malaysian minister, a member of their parliament, 654 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: who literally said that the government was covering the whole 655 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: thing up and that it was part of an attempted coup. 656 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: I was like, wow that I didn't know if that 657 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: meant he had read my piece, or of my or 658 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: of my piece had had been and it's possible. It's possible. Um, 659 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: And then the story disappeared, it went away. Um. But 660 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: I think if you, if you try to instead of 661 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: trying to come up with the theory of your own, 662 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: which was what all these other people did, we just 663 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: let what happened to the airplane create the theory for us. 664 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: For example, one of the reasons we believe the plane 665 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: crashed the hybrid of speed is because none of the 666 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: emergency locator transponders or emergency located beacons went off, and 667 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: if the plane had ditched in the water, those would 668 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: have activated. There's three of them. There's one in a 669 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: life raft, there's one in the fuselage up in the 670 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: upper section midway through the aircraft, and there's one up 671 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: high in the tail and the run by a battery 672 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: and they have to celerometers in them. So if the 673 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: airplane hits the water and slows down a rapid speed 674 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: like a like a water landing, would do those beacons 675 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: go off automatically boop boop boop boop, give a you know, 676 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: give a direction and you know lunched and latitude a 677 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: location to satellite. They only had one brief sickle a 678 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: signal from those from what we think was one of 679 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: those beacons. But they never told us what the frequency 680 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: was because that would have told us because there's two 681 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: frequencies that they've run on, and they wouldn't. They never 682 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: released the frequency that it was that they picked it 683 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: up on, which would have told us it's emergency locator beacon. 684 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping the report will contain some of this 685 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: information which would have probably confirmed what we said that 686 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: that it hit the water a high rate speed. The 687 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: debris was vaporized most of it. Anything that was big 688 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: enough not to be destroyed by the by the impact 689 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: with the water would have sank into the ocean and 690 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't have floated. But anything like you know, seats or 691 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,959 Speaker 1: bags or or chairs and it would have been just pulverized. 692 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: And the pieces they found on the plane are no 693 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: bigger than surfboard really, and you wouldn't have seen those 694 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: from five thousand feet. They're just too too high. But 695 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: that's also consistent with a high speed crash. The flap 696 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: Aaron that they were cut off the plane and really 697 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,479 Speaker 1: wanted to see good pictures of that flap around because 698 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: I could have told us whether that flap brond was 699 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: removed from the aircraft by ditching or by high speed impact. 700 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: Is we would have been able to look at the 701 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: fitting and tell whether it was stressed to the front 702 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: or to the rear. So if it had been stressed 703 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: to the front, it would suggest it had been pulled backwards, 704 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: which would suggest a ditching, And if it was stressed 705 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: to the rear, then I would tell us that that 706 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: flap bern was driven forward by an impact. But they 707 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: haven't released any information on the flappern. He's saying, so 708 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: there are some things that we could probably figure out 709 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: about this if they would just be more forthcoming with 710 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: some of the information. Instead, it's like a big mac 711 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: and they say they found a piece of debris, but 712 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,959 Speaker 1: then you know, you know, I'll have to see anything 713 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: about how it's been analyzed or or any good close 714 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: pictures of it or any other things. And it's been 715 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: very frustrating to to the other governments involved, the Chinese, 716 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: United States, the Australians. Um, you literally had a private 717 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: company out of Australia say look, we'll we'll look for 718 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: free and if we don't find anything, you don't pay us. 719 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: And they did. They looked, spent months, we couldn't find 720 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: a thing. Well, I think that's a function of the 721 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: exasperation trying to deal with this government. The Malaysians were like, 722 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: now we're not doing well, we'll do it for free 723 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 1: if we have to just pay us. If we find something, 724 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: we'll we'll go and do it. And you think the 725 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: Millagians be like, Okay, here's twenty million dollars, five million dollars, 726 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: go and do what you can. You can do And 727 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that because I don't think 728 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: they want to know. I think they already know, and 729 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: I think they just yeah, well, um, in the can 730 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: you know when you think about all the millions of 731 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: dollars in trade and tours and all that flows through 732 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: that region. Uh, this is a very bad thing. It's 733 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: a it's an ugly thing from Malaysia, which had has 734 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: had history of sectarian violence, to have this sort of 735 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: thing blow up again on them. The government in the 736 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: Islamist government and Alasia was widely known to be corrupt. 737 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys making a hundred thousand dollars and 738 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: their wives have these four hundred thousand dollar purses that 739 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: are you know, super expensive. I don't know, it's a 740 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: big thing over in Asia. I don't know if it's 741 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: caught on over here in New York yet, but it's 742 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: it's food. I think it's you know, it's like when 743 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: I see these women walking around with shoes that are 744 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 1: like a thousand dollars, like wow, that's insane with them 745 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: here that I'm like, all right, that's a whole new level. 746 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: The knockoff on this backs the hundred thousand dollars so 747 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: far inhouse and dollar back. And there's been several of 748 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: these Malagia official his wives were seen in public carrying them. 749 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: Were like, what these a little bit? And that was 750 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: one of the things that got the Islamist government kind 751 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: of pushed out of power and on war. In power. Now, 752 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: if you're on war, are you now going to go 753 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: out and you know, dig into this thing and and 754 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: blow this whole thing up. Now you've gotten these lama 755 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: Is out. Uh, you're the minority power, now in power? 756 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: Are you going to now jump in front of this 757 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: thing and say? Uh? The Islama's government screwed this whole 758 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: thing up and covered it up, and they're implicated as well. 759 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: Although I don't think knowingly, I honestly think the onwarted 760 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: his party, who had no idea this thing was going on, 761 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: and probably freaked out when they got to notice that, 762 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, Mohammad was going to fix this whole thing, like, 763 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: oh my god, there's gonna be a huge crackdown on 764 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: us now. So they dis owned the guy, totally disown 765 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: the guy, and they just wanted to go away. They 766 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: wanted to go away and then, and you know what, 767 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: in all honesty, it has on some level. I feel 768 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,439 Speaker 1: like the public's attention span is so short. That's why 769 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: when you told me you wanted to come on talk 770 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: about the Malaysian flight, I was like, yeah, it's cool 771 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: because no one is really talking about this and it's 772 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: such an important part of recent history. I feel like, 773 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: no matter what age of a listener you are, because 774 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: with this show, we have guys in high school who 775 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: are looking to join the military. We have veterans of 776 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: Vietnam and even previous wars who listened to the show 777 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: regular and write us. Everybody remembers this moment, no matter 778 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: what age and and it's gone pretty much like out 779 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: of the mainstream, and it's not something we talked about anymore. 780 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: Twenty years ago, Leonard Nimoy would have been narrating an 781 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: in Search of episode about this thing about been a 782 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: three part series. But I think and solve mysteries, right, 783 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: Robert sna I think you'd have the I think the 784 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: thing about the story that's really interesting is that most 785 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: airline crushes. Most airline crushes are mechanical or pilot error 786 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: that results in these in these crushes. In this case, though, 787 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: you have a situation where I think that the government 788 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: directly participated in the events that led up to the crash. 789 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: I think they tried to buff their way past Shaw 790 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: and he didn't go for it. They couldn't find the 791 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: airplane because he did a really good job hiding it. 792 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: Nobody knew where to look for it. And like I said, 793 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: the Australians should have seen the plane if they had 794 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: there their air search air defense radar on they would 795 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: have seen that airplane, that that radar could have picked 796 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 1: up a cruise missile inbound, which as a cross signature 797 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: like a you know, as a oncoming centual that much 798 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 1: bigger than a garbage camp. And you and you wonder, 799 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: you know what the relationship was to the pilot doing this, 800 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: because you know, what do you need to do? We 801 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: already know that like suicide missions and kama kaze stuff 802 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: back of course from World War Two, But then Islamic 803 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: rorists who do these suicide you know, bombings in places 804 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: like Israel. How do you convince the pilot to go 805 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 1: into suicide mission. I don't think that's what he intended 806 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: to do. I really don't. I think I think he 807 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: went out there and despaired after he realized he was, 808 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, getting jerked around, and they didn't buy it. 809 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: You know what made those guys make that last time 810 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: at the Alamo, But what made them do it at 811 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: Wake Island? What makes any of these leaves there? They're 812 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: never planned out from start to finish to say okay, 813 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: we're going to you know, stay here and die to 814 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: the last man. I don't think the Spartans expected all 815 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: to die at Themopolite. It just worked out that way. 816 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: Events kept pushing that that line further and further to 817 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: the point where your options are lesser. The last sun 818 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: um And like I said, I think Shaw kept enough 819 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: fuel to get himself to Australia. And then when he 820 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: realized that but the government was not going to clear 821 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: on war the charges and restore him to his position 822 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: as a minority leader, kept his promise. Which it's a 823 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 1: terrible thing, but I think I think he was dedicated. 824 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: I think he really meant it. We just can't find 825 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 1: anything else that makes sense. It certainly isn't alien abductions 826 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 1: or or Oregon harvest and cover ups or flying to packs. 827 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: I mean the new one is is that there's some 828 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: guys that believe that the plane was taken into an 829 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: island off Madagascar. Yeah. I was gonna get into that 830 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 1: because that was another one you were saying, Peter McMahon, 831 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: if you want to talk about his background, Yeah, he's 832 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: a he's kind of like a civilian researcher and he 833 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: spends a lot of time pouring and these are people 834 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: actually looking for the airline. I think they're going to 835 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: see it in the water. So they're pouring over Google 836 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: Maps inch by inch, zooming and zooming out, trying to 837 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 1: find what they think is going to be the image 838 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: of this plane just below the surface, forgetting, of course 839 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: that in some places it's ten thousand feet And they 840 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: think because some of the wreckages washed washed up off 841 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: of Madagascar island not try remember the name of the 842 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: islet that they call it, but it's um, it's not 843 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: months right. What am I what's the what's the world 844 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: on the island I'm thinking of? I have to look. 845 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to pull it up anyway. 846 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm definitely not a geog it's an off Managascar because 847 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: this thing that that's where the debris is washed up, 848 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: and I think that's really just a function of the 849 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: ocean currents three or four years later of this debris 850 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 1: making its way. That this is based off Google Maps, 851 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really not the way. So they think 852 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: the plane went somewhere out there off off of Madagascar, 853 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: and that doesn't make any sense again, because you're going 854 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: out to the extreme range of the aircraft in a 855 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 1: plane to reach that range with a fuel it had 856 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 1: on board, because it wasn't carrying a foload. That airplane 857 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 1: would have carried what it needed to get to China 858 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 1: plus fifteen over that in case they had to hold 859 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 1: or in case they had a weather you know weather 860 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: necessitated a hold on landing or deferred or anything like that. 861 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: Um In order for that plane to get all the 862 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 1: way the Madagascar would have flown a cruising range and 863 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: cruising speed or cruising altitude and speed, which means it 864 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: would have been seen on radar by dear Garcia. We 865 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: had to go right past it. So we can't just 866 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: pretend like this. The airplane can go flying around and 867 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: nobody can No one's can see it. There's systems that 868 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: are out there, huge air search radar and dr Garcy 869 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: another one. Several stations in Australia watching the Indian Ocean 870 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: that should have seen the plane. The question is why 871 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: didn't they. Well, the only reason they wouldn't in the 872 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: case the strange is that the plane was or the 873 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: radar was off. They turned the thing off because they 874 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: were doing maintenance on it, and the fact that the 875 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: plane was very low and outside the radar range of 876 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 1: dar gar see it. Because you can have both ways, 877 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 1: you can't say, oh, yeah, it flew right across Deogarcy 878 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: and they magically didn't see it. No, they would have 879 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: seen it. Those guys, very sharp guys, military guys watching 880 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: that panel in that counsole, and any plane zooming around 881 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 1: out there without without being identified, would have a jet 882 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: said to go look at it. Now, Sean could have 883 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: disguised what his airplane was doing from from simple contact rater, 884 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: which is just going to give you the you know, 885 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: the kind of classic movie we see the screen, just 886 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: give a blip. If he flew low, and he flew low, 887 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 1: he would disguise himself as sort of like an inner 888 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: island transport plane's on two or knots. He's probably a 889 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, he's probably a Cherokee Arrow four plays going 890 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: from here to there. You could look like he was 891 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: a small passenger plane. Now, when you're talking about sophisticated 892 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: air defense search rators, those are called skin painters, so 893 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: they look at the tail and they can give a 894 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: shape in the software system in the radar tells the 895 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: operator this is an airliner. It's this kind of an airplane. 896 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: Even if you turn off your transponders and trying to 897 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: turn everything, you've got that skin penning right, it will 898 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: still classify the target and tell you what it is. 899 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: It's a cruise missile, it's a you know, it's a 900 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: fighter plane. Maybe I make twenty one because it's so 901 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: good that it can it can read the the image, 902 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: it can turn the radar return into an image that 903 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: software can then analyze and say that. And the Australians 904 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: bragged that their air defense radar was sophisticate enough to 905 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: see assessed on one seventy two taking off from a 906 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: runway and East Team arm on the ground. I could 907 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: see it taking off one their radar, so you should 908 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: have seen that plane that didn't see it, so that 909 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: was off. But these folks want to claim that the 910 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 1: flu off Guescar Island have to get around the confounders, 911 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: which is okay, Well, it had to fly through the 912 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: air search pattern of Digger, and it had to do 913 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: at high altitude and my speed. It would have been 914 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: seen and it wasn't. So that tends to make that 915 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: theory irrelevant because the things that have to it has 916 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 1: to pass in order to be relevant or incredible don't pass. 917 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: I also just think, you know, as practically looking at 918 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: it on Google Maps, anything could be anything like you're 919 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: zooming in on areas. It's really not sufficient evidence of 920 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: parts of a plane debris from four years ago, and 921 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: they have found almost nothing from the airplane except, as 922 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: you said, a couple of pieces that we know nothing about, 923 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: that we know very little about. So that's, like I said, 924 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 1: very consistent with a plane hitting the water or HYBRIDSK. 925 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: But why aren't these pieces being sent to a web 926 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: for now? It's like it's they are, but that we're 927 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: not in charge of the investigation. So we offered, you know, 928 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: we say, hey, we've got people who are experts on 929 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: the stuff. We'll send a whole team over the early No, 930 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: thank you, we have our own expert. And then another, Um, 931 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,439 Speaker 1: I mean there's many theories in this article. I said, 932 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: you asked you guys all check it out. It's all right, goodnight. 933 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: Does Malaysia want to know what happened to play an 934 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,760 Speaker 1: MH three seventy written by Sean Spens of course. Um, 935 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: but then you also mentioned Captain Lindbergh to me and 936 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: this theory of faulty oxygen bottles. Yeah, that Captain lindberghs 937 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,919 Speaker 1: as an airline pot. He's got seventeen thousand flight hours. 938 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a very competent pilot. I'm sure he's 939 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: an expert in not crashing. Appert great name for a pilot. Yes, 940 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: his expertise seems to be in not having a mishappen 941 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,879 Speaker 1: in aircraft. It's a it's a different kind of thing. 942 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: I think we were talking about this before. Yes, you know, 943 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 1: crash accident investigations are great if you actually have a 944 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: crash scene to look at. So what we don't have 945 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: right now is an actual crashing. So it's very difficult 946 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 1: for anyone to say accurately what happened when you have 947 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: so little physical evidence to actually go by. And we 948 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: know almost nothing about what happened to that air after 949 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: the Malaysian air for the Malaysian Air Force caught sight 950 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: of it for a few moments as it passed across 951 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: the peninsula in the Indian Ocean. But we all we 952 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: know almost nothing after that about what happened to the airplane. 953 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: So his theory is that the oxygen bottles failed spontaneously, 954 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: fixated the pilot, of the crew and the passengers, and 955 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: then the plane continued to fly on autopilot. I don't 956 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: think he really I don't know if he's specified where 957 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: the plane went down. But the problem with that is 958 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: that if you have a cabin depressurization without any oxygen, 959 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 1: the oxygen masks for the passengers dropped down automatically, and 960 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: I think they have fifteen minutes of air just just there, 961 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 1: and the pilots have bottles in the cabin that gives 962 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: them thirty minutes of air. Oxygen there mass dropped down automatically. 963 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: It's not can't be turned off. It can't be You 964 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: can't pull the plug on it or trip on it 965 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 1: while you're getting the coffee and unplugged the thing. It's 966 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: it's an automatic system. So fifteen minutes is plenty of 967 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: time for the pists to get that plane down under 968 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 1: ten thousand feet where passengers can send a brief cabin 969 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: air again, where the oxygen content is sufficient for them 970 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: to breathe. So if the if the if the oxygen 971 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: system failed on the aircraft, he'd get warning alarms. The 972 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: oxygen masks would drop automatically. It's not like he has 973 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,720 Speaker 1: to you know the old movies, everything is on manuel, 974 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: no poop. They come off automatically, and the pilot has 975 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: thirty minutes to get from twenty nine FET which was 976 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: cruising out to do three to get down under ten. 977 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: They can do that in a couple of minutes. They 978 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 1: don't need a half an hour to do it. So 979 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: again we get back to the thing where so many 980 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: proposes a third about what went wrong, But then we 981 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: have to look at what would the airplanes response be 982 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: to the catastrophic failure that that somebody is managing. I 983 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 1: mean I've heard stuff to say the entire electrical system 984 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: failed on the aircraft all at once. Okay, well, how 985 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: how does miles of wiring this airplay? How does it 986 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 1: all just stop all at one time? And their system 987 00:47:55,239 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 1: they're documented, Yeah, no evidence of this ever happening. Yeah, 988 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: that's and that's what you mean about wishcraft is is 989 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: that I've got to come up with a theory. So 990 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: here's my theory. Yeah, you know. And actually had a 991 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: conversation with somebody about this one time that askes me, 992 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: very sincerely, so what do you think actually happened? I 993 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 1: kind of read your thing. I will ask you a 994 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,280 Speaker 1: question like sure. So we talked about fifteen twenty minutes 995 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: and then he finally said that's all really good, But 996 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: I still think it was aliens. There are there any 997 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: other theories you want to go through, because this piece 998 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,399 Speaker 1: lays them all out, But there are any others that 999 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,879 Speaker 1: we haven't covered yet that you feel these are all? 1000 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: I mean, as you said, the cool thing about it 1001 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: are the theories that you mentioned here are from other 1002 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: than McInerney, you know who who does have a i'd 1003 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,359 Speaker 1: say a good military background. But is what he's doing 1004 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: now with the companies that he's working for is Jack 1005 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: has detailed before and his theories he's laid on Fox 1006 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: News and make me very skeptical of the guy. But 1007 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: the other people that you lay it out, these are 1008 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 1: not uh you know, this is not Alex Jones. No, 1009 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: these are what you would think are pretty reputable guys. 1010 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 1: But you kind of debunk these pretty logically. So yeah, well, 1011 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: and I think that's one of the things we have 1012 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: to remember about these guys of incidences is we have 1013 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: to kind of try and look at them reasonably and 1014 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: understand that almost everything is action and reaction, and most 1015 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 1: of these conspiracy theories are out there never taking into 1016 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: account the reaction of the claims that they're making. The 1017 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: airplanes like this have systems and subsystems and backup systems 1018 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: and you when I started looking at these things, and 1019 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 1: I didn't do this Alongeline Joe. I had three other 1020 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 1: people working with me on this, which is cool, that's 1021 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: the way to do it. Yeah, I would like, what 1022 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 1: do you think of this when here's what they're claiming, 1023 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: and what would happen if this happened? What would happen 1024 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 1: that we always talked about in terms of what the 1025 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: aircraft would do, what the aircraft's responsibly to this? And 1026 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, why do we have this radar anomaly? You know, 1027 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: why do we have this ridiculous altitude and turn thing 1028 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,399 Speaker 1: that showed, Well, that's at the end of the radar range. 1029 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 1: It's a it's an anomaly. It's not it's not what 1030 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 1: the plane did. It's just that's what the radar read 1031 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 1: from that extreme range. The return was weak and that's 1032 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: how it registered on the system. But the plane could 1033 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: not have possibly descended ten thousand feet in a couple 1034 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: of seconds in one piece. It couldn't fall from the 1035 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 1: sky that beast. We're talking like meteor speeds and for 1036 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 1: that to happen, so you have to kind of be skeptical. 1037 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: And then I'm a skeptic. I'm somebody always guys and 1038 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 1: let me look first. And this is such an unusual 1039 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,320 Speaker 1: incident because, like I said before, it involves a government 1040 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: I think that does not want anyone to know the truth. 1041 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: And they are actually going to be helped in that 1042 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 1: by the fact that if the plane did hit at 1043 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: highrey speed, there's almost no likelihood they're ever going to 1044 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: recover the black boxes or any significant piece of the airplane. Someday, 1045 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: some oil exploration company down there, uh you know, siting 1046 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 1: for a new drilling rig someplace, it's going to stumble 1047 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 1: across one of those Rolls Royce engines and say, holy corists, 1048 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,280 Speaker 1: look at us. We found an old Rolls Royce engine 1049 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: down here. And they're they're gonna send stuff in and 1050 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 1: find a much water to brief because you remember, if 1051 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 1: if you question airplane at a hire of speed in 1052 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: waters that are et, that debris is gonna come down 1053 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 1: from here and it's going to spread out like you 1054 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: almost like a t p acrost the bottom over miles 1055 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: and miles of the bottom of that ocean. And as 1056 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 1: you said, they have four hours for this thing to 1057 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 1: spread before anyone comes in to start searching. Yeah, well, 1058 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: I don't think the plane actually uh you know, crashed 1059 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: within an hour of taking off. I think the flight 1060 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: duration that we imagined on that plane was about not 1061 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 1: seven and a half to eight eight hours maxim MAXI 1062 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 1: and Derance could we think shot flew very low, very slow, 1063 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: which which was to play out his fuel to give 1064 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: them as much time in the air as he possibly 1065 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 1: couldn't conserve fuel, so he had to do that low 1066 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: and slow, or he can do it high and fast 1067 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: because you've got less wind. Resistance of the plane goes 1068 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,320 Speaker 1: really quick. Because you remember airlines are airliners are designed 1069 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 1: to function at an ideal speed and ideal altitude from 1070 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: maximum fuel efficiency, which is where the airline makes its money. 1071 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: He's not saving gas, so get up to the cell 1072 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 1: to get the speed dialed in exactly right, exactly a 1073 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: cell too, and then you're gonna save the company money 1074 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 1: while we deliver passengers to their destination. So when you 1075 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: bring it down low, you have to factor that in. 1076 00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 1: Say okay, well, if I'm gonna do this and I 1077 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: want fuel to hold out, how fast can I go 1078 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: instead of six D five hundred and eightyfive hundred fifty, 1079 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna have to be about to forty you don't 1080 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 1: have fifteen degree flaps, and you know, I'm gonna have 1081 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: to just be in this gentle circling turn uh and 1082 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: be under two thousand feet and just you know, see 1083 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 1: if i can just you know, run my fuel, have 1084 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: my fuel last at long. So he had seven or 1085 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 1: eight hours we think, in the air before he was 1086 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 1: out of gas and said out options and so well, 1087 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna keep my promise, which we think 1088 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: is the one he made put the plane into the sea. 1089 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 1: They believed that that Shaw attended the sensing hearing for 1090 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: a war the day of flight, and then there was 1091 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: a report that they put out and then they reeled 1092 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,240 Speaker 1: it back in that that he had taken a telephone 1093 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: call in the cockpit on a burner phone, and then no, 1094 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: not not where I have to happen. So this is 1095 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 1: the thing that the All Asia government did. They put information. 1096 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 1: Everybody go what that means this and they go next day, 1097 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,879 Speaker 1: oh no, that never happened. This happened. Instead, they kept 1098 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 1: teasing out things and contradicting themselves. It was if you 1099 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: if you follow the story from the beginning, it is ridiculous. 1100 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: But the crush is significant, we think because we think 1101 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,280 Speaker 1: it was a politically motivated crime. We think the government 1102 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: actually botched it. It's not your typical accident that's a 1103 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: that's a matter of air frame failure or pilot air 1104 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,800 Speaker 1: This is a this is this is a more political 1105 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: kind of thing. And it didn't involve terrorism. I mean 1106 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: it's an active air piracy. I don't I don't think. 1107 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,240 Speaker 1: You know, Shaw could have turned the thing back around 1108 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 1: and just flown it right into it is at the 1109 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:32,240 Speaker 1: Patronas Tower in in Singapore, the gigantic, the biggest building 1110 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 1: in the world, that's right there. If he was if 1111 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 1: he was a terrorist, he gonna turn the plan around, 1112 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,839 Speaker 1: come back and just clambered that giant, huge, enormous skyscraper. 1113 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 1: Or he could have come crashed on klal Import, float 1114 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 1: it to pe King and just you know, barrel it 1115 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: into the party headquarters. He could have he had an 1116 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 1: airplane full of fuel, full of passengers. He could have 1117 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: gone anywhere and done something with it. So it's safe 1118 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 1: to say, though, like July thirtieth, in this report, Hole 1119 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,320 Speaker 1: comes out, you're not holding your breath for any new information. 1120 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: Uh No, I'm actually gonna be insestant see the reaction 1121 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 1: of the other governments that were involved in this, the Chinese, 1122 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: the Americans, Australians, I'll be instancy what they think of 1123 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: the support our own investigators. But you know, you have 1124 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 1: a very hard time rebutting them. If they don't give 1125 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 1: you information. Yeah, ok, they won't let you see the 1126 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: parts of that have been recovered. You have a very 1127 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 1: hard time, you know, rebutting it. And it's almost like 1128 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 1: what they have done sort of leads the leads the 1129 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: theory that they don't want anyone to know what happened. 1130 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like to me. So as we're 1131 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,359 Speaker 1: wrapping up this whole discussion here, and this is great 1132 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: because I think that this is the first time I'm 1133 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 1: hearing about this in depth. I remember when I was 1134 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,919 Speaker 1: working over at Serious Exam at the time, they did 1135 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 1: have a show and a station I think that was 1136 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,479 Speaker 1: devoted to this crash. Yeah, for a really limited time 1137 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 1: because of the fact that it was just in the 1138 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 1: headlines and everything. But I remember General McNerney being one 1139 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 1: of the guests, and you know, if you're listening in, 1140 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, this guy's former general, former Air Force 1141 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: generally probably knows his stuff, and I'm glad that like 1142 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: there's someone like you came out here and said, like, 1143 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 1: not so quick, this doesn't really hold the water. Um, 1144 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: But I'm wondering what you know in particular got you 1145 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 1: so fascinated with this to really research it and come 1146 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: out with an article like this with people that you're 1147 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 1: working with. And by the way, did did you talk 1148 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: to Brandon at all? Because I mean he's a pilot. 1149 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 1: And yeah, I said, look, I'm actually gonna write I 1150 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: write a piece on this, and do you think it'd 1151 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 1: be something that's offer be interesting? Because absolutely, let me. 1152 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,800 Speaker 1: I want to read it first. He goes, but yeah, absolutely, 1153 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 1: He's who are you working on it with? And I said, well, 1154 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,800 Speaker 1: I've got a buddy. It's a pilot at Southwest And 1155 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: I got a buddy. It's a uh senior flight engineer 1156 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 1: for twenty years, a guy that's flown those routes and 1157 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 1: no zio traffic control procedures and all the other things. 1158 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: And I started, I'm working with a with a guy 1159 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: you and I both know is a is a National 1160 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,359 Speaker 1: Rocket Scientists. He's helping us with the math because we're 1161 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,280 Speaker 1: doing a bunch of math calculations on this, and he's like, yeah, absolutely, 1162 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 1: I want to see it. So I ran the piece 1163 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,439 Speaker 1: through him, and I think it was Jack I looked 1164 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,839 Speaker 1: at it as well, and they both said, yeah, let's 1165 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 1: do it. Um. I think the story Captiviason so many 1166 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,879 Speaker 1: people because they're hoping they'd find him alive. We were 1167 00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,919 Speaker 1: all hoping they would find all the passengers a lot, 1168 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: but I was I was almost convinced that get gun 1169 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 1: that they never would. I just I just didn't. I 1170 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 1: didn't feel like it. They were going to find them 1171 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 1: all out at sea somewhere, and that's because there were 1172 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 1: no more. The key to this thing, in very very 1173 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: large part to me, was the fact that they got 1174 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 1: nothing off the emergency locator, because that should have happened. 1175 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 1: Those located becans should have activated in a plane that 1176 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 1: dish in the water. It's almost impossible to unactivate them. 1177 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:25,839 Speaker 1: They don't run on the electrical system. They have their 1178 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,400 Speaker 1: own batteries, the highly placed in the aircraft and shielded 1179 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 1: positions so that they you know, they aren't destroyed easily 1180 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: or instantly in a ditching. So that was what they 1181 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: should have been hearing. And when I found out they 1182 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 1: were using the you know, the handshake kings from the 1183 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 1: A CAR system, which is almost like a cellular so settler. 1184 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 1: The a cars is like a satellite activated text messaging system. 1185 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 1: It's used by the airline to talk to its pilots 1186 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: and say, okay, listen when you get to you know, 1187 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,839 Speaker 1: call them poor or see the gate agent about your wife. 1188 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,840 Speaker 1: She has a message for you. It's you know, second 1189 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 1: of stuff. Um. They were used saying the handshake king 1190 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 1: from that to try and attrack this aircraft, which was 1191 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 1: almost impossible. So we knew that there were things going 1192 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 1: on on the airplane that we believe had involved both 1193 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 1: the pilot and the co pilot at the same time 1194 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: working together, not not in not to commit an act 1195 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: of terrorst against the Western nation. But we think it 1196 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 1: was political. We think the only answers left after we 1197 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 1: limited all the obvious nonsense was something more political about 1198 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 1: the push and pull of of Malaysian politics. But software, 1199 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 1: to its credit, has broken some tremendously big stories. Waden 1200 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 1: body is you know you said came out of around 1201 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 1: the same time, and what happened in ben Ghazi, and 1202 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 1: then what happened in what really happened in Benghazi? What 1203 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 1: really happened. Uh with the gate guards that were murdered 1204 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: in im On, Jordan. I'm trying to remember their names, 1205 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 1: just skipping because I'm sitting here fronto microphone. And of 1206 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 1: course they took their heat over what they did in Nigeria, 1207 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 1: but that that story, to me was absolutely needed to 1208 00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 1: be told. The governor did not tell the families the 1209 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 1: truth about what was going on. And and after the 1210 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 1: after software had stripped that all that nonsense that the 1211 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: dashed people that put on that Nigeria and Bush, we 1212 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 1: didn't put that out. The government stop them. We're not 1213 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: going to send a report that now we're gonna have 1214 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 1: to delay because they had to rewrite it. And yeah, 1215 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a look at that policy. If guys 1216 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't go pro cameras out in the field without arthoors, 1217 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a look at that. Yeah. So the 1218 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: government changed a bunch of things to try and try 1219 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 1: and minimize the chances of something like that happened in 1220 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,840 Speaker 1: the general, which is something that like I think people 1221 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: who aren't like you, who haven't been here from the 1222 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: very beginning or that really understand the site, don't get 1223 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 1: they want us to be like these other military sites 1224 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,520 Speaker 1: that it's a very you know, and all these guys 1225 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: are patriots, but a pro patriotic, pro America message. And 1226 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 1: you know, if there's anything that's negative, don't put it 1227 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 1: out there. But whether it's you know, rapes in the 1228 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: army and or the molestation going on at the v A, 1229 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 1: Jack's whole policy. And I feel like Brandon as well, 1230 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 1: is like we're to put it out there because it 1231 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: needs to be exposed. This needs to see the white 1232 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 1: because if we don't talk about it, the Army is 1233 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 1: certainly not going to talk about it. Institutions have a 1234 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 1: tendency to protect themselves. They just do. They have a 1235 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 1: tendency to protect themselves, um and and hide from you 1236 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 1: hide the truth from people if it serves to make 1237 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 1: the agency look bad at some manner capacity And I 1238 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 1: don't think you could have. Actually agencies are responsive and 1239 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 1: clean and functioning properly without the exposure of wrongdoing, especially 1240 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, so it doesn't carry like a cover d 1241 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 1: u I s. You know, they don't run around trying 1242 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: to find a guy who you know, stole a chicken 1243 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: from the grocery store. Nobody, that's not a story. But 1244 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: when you're talking about major, major kind of scandals that 1245 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 1: involved lying and stealing, a murder or drug running or 1246 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: you know, those are stories that we shall covered. And 1247 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 1: we said the v A molestation stuff, and and I've 1248 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 1: said it before on the show. I mean I could 1249 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 1: make it as vague as possible. The the guy that 1250 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 1: that happened to has been on with us before. He 1251 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: hasn't come out about it, um publicly, and maybe at 1252 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 1: some point he will. But like I've said, this is 1253 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: like a tough dude who's you know, um, Like I said, 1254 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to get into his background too much, 1255 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 1: but a former special operations guy. And I think the 1256 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 1: narrative is when you hear about a guy being molested 1257 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 1: at the VA or something like, oh, why don't you 1258 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 1: tell him to back off? It's not always the way 1259 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 1: that it works. And I'm glad that we cover this 1260 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,479 Speaker 1: type of stop because if it doesn't get out there, 1261 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: no one else is talking about it. There's no accountability. 1262 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,000 Speaker 1: And um, We're not going to be a site that 1263 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 1: just portrays everything in the military and a positive light. 1264 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 1: And when there is something in a positive light, we 1265 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 1: of course report on that as well and talk about 1266 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 1: it here. On the podcast software doesn't chase the negative. 1267 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 1: But but I do believe if you think of these 1268 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: people in special operations forces in the military in general 1269 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 1: as heroes, then we owe it to the ones who 1270 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: are heroes, who who uphold the standards to report on 1271 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,800 Speaker 1: those who do not, because they should be weeded out 1272 01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 1: so that the ones you keep are the ones that 1273 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 1: are really meeting that standard of of of integrity and 1274 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: honesty and fidelity that we really want from our military. 1275 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 1: You have to have that in the military. You have 1276 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 1: to they have guns, weapons and honest power. You have 1277 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: to have responsible, sober, honest, you know, people with that 1278 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 1: kind of power out there, because if you've ever seen 1279 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: militaries that don't have that kind of ethosum, you've got 1280 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 1: people lined up against the wall and shot. So I 1281 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 1: guess my point is I'm glad my article is in 1282 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: the company of those other great pieces that have run 1283 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 1: uh and and I really admire the way, you know, 1284 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 1: softwap in Jack and and Brandon just sort of fearlessly 1285 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 1: say we're gonna report anyway, knowing that they're gonna get clawber, 1286 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 1: knowing that all of the usual clowns and trolls will 1287 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 1: jump out them. They don't care if it's the right 1288 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 1: thing to do, they're gonna do it. So I admire that. 1289 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 1: I admire that very much, and both of them, man 1290 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 1: and software itself. Yeah, I would agree with you. Um, 1291 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 1: So wrapping things up here before we get out, and 1292 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 1: um we just hold this up here, UM as a 1293 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 1: cab waiting downstairs, calves winning downstairs really a few minutes no, um, yeah, 1294 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: I just wanted to pull up our stuff here that 1295 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 1: we're working on because, as I always talked about every show, 1296 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 1: the clubs, what we have have just been absolutely awesome. 1297 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 1: You and I just saw admir who does great work 1298 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 1: with all of our clubs, whether it's Create Club or 1299 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 1: who we're working with COONa Dog. Um. And as I 1300 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 1: always say, there's only one club out there with gear 1301 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 1: hand picks by special operations military veterans from several branches, 1302 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,280 Speaker 1: and that of course is Create Club. The future collaboration 1303 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 1: with NFW watches, I've seen what that's gonna look like, 1304 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 1: and that's gonna be pretty awesome. So if you're a 1305 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 1: Premium tier member that will be in the near future. Um. 1306 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 1: We have different tiers of membership depending on how prepared 1307 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,439 Speaker 1: you want to be and I would always say you've 1308 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,960 Speaker 1: seen for really go with the premium. I know it's 1309 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 1: a bit price here, but when you see like these 1310 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 1: really cool item is that you haven't seen anywhere else, 1311 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 1: chances are that's not going to be in the Standard Create. 1312 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's great stuff in the Standard Create, but 1313 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 1: the premium has the stuff that you're like, where did 1314 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 1: they get No, you're right, and I've actually seen the 1315 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 1: process by which they've got that stuff, which is really 1316 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,960 Speaker 1: very intri going. I model it how much stuff they reject, 1317 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 1: by how much the guy we're not buying this. I mean, 1318 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 1: you can go online and you can find so you 1319 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 1: know what a k bar is now famous World War 1320 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 1: two Marine Corps fighting knife is the ste They're very 1321 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 1: still one of the greatest blades ever made in terms 1322 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 1: of utility. It's it's one of those beautiful design knives 1323 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 1: that um has been around for a long time because 1324 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 1: they just works so well. But you can go online 1325 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,160 Speaker 1: and you can find a k bar for twenty dollars 1326 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 1: with a leavice scavenge everything looks absolutely good. Or you 1327 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 1: can find a k bar for a hundreds or a 1328 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: hundred fifty dollars well what's the difference between the two. Well, 1329 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 1: if you're like most people, you don't know the difference 1330 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 1: between steak knife steel and D two tool steel. Creig 1331 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 1: Club they do. So they're piking at both and saying, Okay, 1332 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,440 Speaker 1: this one looks great, but it won't keep, it'll go 1333 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 1: dull cutting bananas. This one is made like a hammer. 1334 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,439 Speaker 1: This thing will last years. And that's why these guys 1335 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 1: pick stuff. They're like, we would deploy with this, and 1336 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 1: not everybody gets that. Everybody just you know, there's some 1337 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 1: people thinking I'm just gonna get a whole drunk full 1338 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 1: of stuff in my box, and that's not what you're getting. 1339 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 1: You're getting gear that's very, very specially selected and picked 1340 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 1: by people who really know what they're doing. Say, I'm 1341 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 1: bet my life on this. I'll take this in that 1342 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 1: the field with me were we get a great feedback, 1343 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 1: whether it's like the Emerson knives or you know, especially 1344 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 1: for the premium as I was saying, um, so you 1345 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,560 Speaker 1: can check that all out. It's at Craig Club dot us. 1346 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 1: Once again, that's Craig Club dot us for your dog owners. 1347 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna love this as well. We've just partnered with 1348 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 1: Kuna they have a team of trained canine handlers picking 1349 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 1: out a box for your dog every month of healthy 1350 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,160 Speaker 1: treats and training aids. It's the US source to all 1351 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 1: natural and it not only promotes a healthy diet, but 1352 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 1: also promotes being active with your dogs. So whether we're 1353 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,640 Speaker 1: talking to pitbull, chuow, whatever dog you have, UH, they're 1354 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 1: gonna love it. And you can see that all at 1355 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,760 Speaker 1: Kuna dot Dog. That's Kuna dot Doug. It's efficient for you. 1356 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 1: Your dog will appreciate it as well, of course, and 1357 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 1: that's spelled see you and a dot d o G. Also, 1358 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 1: as a reminder for those listening, for a limited time, 1359 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: you can receive a fifty percent discounted membership to the 1360 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 1: spec Ops channel. And I have to tell you, um, 1361 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,040 Speaker 1: the videos that we've been putting up if you're watching 1362 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 1: this on YouTube, have been getting great feedback. Someone commented 1363 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,240 Speaker 1: on the last episode they were like, love all the 1364 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,800 Speaker 1: new stuff, but why can't I find all the inside 1365 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 1: of the team rooms? That is all at the spec 1366 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 1: ops channel. So become a member you could rewatch all 1367 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 1: of those plus the um inside the team room intelligence 1368 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 1: that we just did that's going up there right now. 1369 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play. I'm gonna tease out some of the 1370 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 1: best of that soon and play some of that for 1371 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 1: you guys. UM. 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Check out the app, which was developed by 1382 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:39,439 Speaker 1: Chris who does an awesome job um wrapping things up here. 1383 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,160 Speaker 1: As I was saying, you could find Sean on Twitter 1384 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,400 Speaker 1: at Shawn Underscore, spoons s E A N Underscore s 1385 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 1: p O O N t S anything else that you're 1386 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,080 Speaker 1: plugging before you get out of your other than as 1387 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 1: you're saying the raffle people that, Yeah, I was gonna say, 1388 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 1: if anybody has any comments they want to addressed me 1389 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 1: to go to software and find the article there and 1390 01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, hit me up there if you if you 1391 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 1: think this is all nonsense. I don't live here and 1392 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 1: that but have something to replace it. At least has 1393 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,480 Speaker 1: anybody really and and had anything to back it up with? 1394 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 1: Uh No. I mean, like I said, the one person 1395 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:12,920 Speaker 1: I we were talking to for like half an hour 1396 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,680 Speaker 1: by when I got all done, I thought they really understood. 1397 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 1: They not I'd like to understood. Well, I still think 1398 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 1: Aliens did it, And I was like, okay, you know 1399 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 1: it was the Aliens and that's fine. So I really 1400 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 1: hope someday they find out what happened. But like I said, 1401 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: I've always thought the biggest part of the story was 1402 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 1: the way internal politics, whether the country can mark these 1403 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 1: kinds of investigations up. We don't. We don't have that 1404 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 1: here in this country. Now we lose an airline and 1405 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,920 Speaker 1: there isn't any consideration about government agencies arguing over who 1406 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: is jurisdiction or we don't want to know what happened 1407 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,400 Speaker 1: because you know, there were some Canadians on board. It 1408 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,959 Speaker 1: will make us look bad to Canada. You know, we've 1409 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,880 Speaker 1: we've don't really had anything like that. That's kind we 1410 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 1: kind of take for granted, the political stability we have 1411 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,919 Speaker 1: here in spite of all the stuff going on right now, 1412 01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 1: our politics are actually very moderate and stable. It's hard 1413 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 1: for a lot of people to believe, unfortunately, and a 1414 01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 1: lot of those people say, like, look at the things 1415 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 1: to Tara is saying over in the Philippines. It makes 1416 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 1: Trump look, yeah, look at what goes on in South 1417 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 1: America and think it goes well. It looks look at 1418 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,960 Speaker 1: what goes on almost anywhere in the world. And we 1419 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 1: we certainly have a contentious political field right now, and 1420 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm not gonna lay on it. And 1421 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 1: if people follow you on Twitter, they already know what 1422 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,320 Speaker 1: you're saying. You know, I end up more of the 1423 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,639 Speaker 1: defending against craziness that I actually defend Trump or anything else. 1424 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,559 Speaker 1: It just seems that way because you know, it's it's 1425 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,640 Speaker 1: like we go between what is he Hitler today or 1426 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,920 Speaker 1: is he is he Hitler literally Hitler or is he 1427 01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 1: Putin's stooge. I'm trying to remember, you have to it's 1428 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 1: alternating days between one of those evil genius are complete 1429 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,200 Speaker 1: more on which is it today? So it's it's like 1430 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,599 Speaker 1: every before you can even talk about a policy, first 1431 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,719 Speaker 1: you have to get past literally Hitler to talk about 1432 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,040 Speaker 1: the policy differentiation. I hear so much from you know, 1433 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,559 Speaker 1: actually the past few days unfortunately can get into this 1434 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:56,160 Speaker 1: off air. But like I've I've heard people that will say, 1435 01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, the political climate right now, it just it's 1436 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 1: so divided, we're so polarized, and then the same breath 1437 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,479 Speaker 1: they'll be like, anyone who voted for Trump is a 1438 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 1: complete moron. Yeah, so could you really complain about the 1439 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 1: polarization while saying that? Yeah? And the funny thing is 1440 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,120 Speaker 1: is that I don't know, I mean, is there's somebody 1441 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 1: who's really honest about conservative Uh. I don't find Trump 1442 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 1: to be all the conservative No, and we've just always 1443 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:25,920 Speaker 1: type stuff. Yeah, this is kind of like there's no 1444 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,479 Speaker 1: other road sort of it's almost like a libertarian stuff. 1445 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 1: But he's took a mom at to everybody else. If 1446 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,920 Speaker 1: I'd call him a libertarian. But I mean because these 1447 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:37,400 Speaker 1: the tariff talk and stuff like that. He's for legalizing marijuana, 1448 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,120 Speaker 1: he was pro sane sex marriage. I mean, that's those 1449 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,439 Speaker 1: are both third rails in terms of traditional I just 1450 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,160 Speaker 1: want to think of the the economic end of the 1451 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,280 Speaker 1: tariff stuff. I get while libertarians are turned off by 1452 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 1: that libertarians all free traders or no trades, free trade, 1453 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,599 Speaker 1: I would say for the most part, I mean at 1454 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 1: the but at the cream spectrum you have the people 1455 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 1: that are, you know, as they call themselves, anarcho capitalists. Yeah, 1456 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. I think it's just 1457 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 1: capitalism with no oversight. I don't I'm not. I don't 1458 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:10,559 Speaker 1: know how that. I don't know how that would but 1459 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,600 Speaker 1: I don't have would work. If you want capitalism with 1460 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,200 Speaker 1: no words that go to China, that's how you end 1461 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,639 Speaker 1: up with like poisoned baby formulas and things like. Yes, 1462 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's interesting to say because you think communism, 1463 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 1: but yeah that China is really a communist country. If 1464 01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,120 Speaker 1: you look at China thirty or four years ago versus 1465 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,799 Speaker 1: what they are now, China is more of a chrony 1466 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 1: capitalist kind of authoritarian. Interesting because there's huge wealth in China. 1467 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,040 Speaker 1: There's some very very rich people in China that the 1468 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 1: government is not It is not taking their money away 1469 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,160 Speaker 1: and just bursting it to the peasants. It's corny capitalism. Now, 1470 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 1: that's where the government picks the businesses that do well, 1471 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,160 Speaker 1: that have favored It's a partnership between capitalism and the 1472 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,960 Speaker 1: government we move towards that a little bit ourselves. We 1473 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,439 Speaker 1: should really pull way back from that. The government should 1474 01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 1: not be is in depth in business in terms of 1475 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,719 Speaker 1: regulation and control as they are now, because then the 1476 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: corporations form lobby groups and the lobby the government to 1477 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:08,879 Speaker 1: get off their back or competitions where the government picks favorites, 1478 01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 1: as I always bring up for the people who um 1479 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 1: on the left will say, Oh, there's no corruption in 1480 01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:17,160 Speaker 1: the obomb administration, and you think of Cylindra, how hard 1481 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:22,879 Speaker 1: they look, how Celindra is a huge one million dollars 1482 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,120 Speaker 1: and no one even talks about it. And you know, 1483 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,479 Speaker 1: because people will make these really vague statements of like, oh, 1484 01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,880 Speaker 1: I think we should be funding alternative energy. Yeah, that's great, 1485 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,840 Speaker 1: but you know when the government starts picking companies and 1486 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,920 Speaker 1: then you choose a failing company, you've just wasted the 1487 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 1: taxpayers money on something that they'll never give back. If 1488 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 1: green energy is so great and really would do great, 1489 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,400 Speaker 1: you wouldn't be able to stop companies from investigating it, 1490 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 1: absolutely wouldn't. You couldn't keep them from developing those those 1491 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,599 Speaker 1: energies if they really worked, if they were really efficient 1492 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,559 Speaker 1: in terms of delivering kill lots to you at home. 1493 01:11:55,840 --> 01:12:00,360 Speaker 1: And we don't use petroleum because somebody's uncle owns oil. 1494 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,160 Speaker 1: We use it because the energy output per gallon is 1495 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,400 Speaker 1: like the highest of anything we could possibly come up with. 1496 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you could run cars on on chicken tears, 1497 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,000 Speaker 1: you just couldn't do it efficiently. Speaking of conspiracy theories, 1498 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,400 Speaker 1: you ever see that. It's like a meme that goes 1499 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 1: around Facebook. I've seen it so many times. Are the 1500 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,719 Speaker 1: video of the guy who was running a car purely 1501 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,240 Speaker 1: on H two O on water and then the people saying, 1502 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,280 Speaker 1: um that that he was killed by the government because 1503 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 1: they didn't want this getting out. And then you do 1504 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,240 Speaker 1: some research on the guy and it turns out that 1505 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,599 Speaker 1: he was he was taking in my opinion, he's pretty 1506 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,560 Speaker 1: stupid investors money and you know, stealing it because you 1507 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,479 Speaker 1: know it should just be basic knowledge. You can't run 1508 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 1: a car on water if it doesn't work. That fifty 1509 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,719 Speaker 1: years ago, the patent office just to get perpetual motion machines. 1510 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,320 Speaker 1: All the time, people are always trying to patent perpetual 1511 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 1: motion machines. So there's actually a thing if you go 1512 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,439 Speaker 1: to file for a patents actually disclaiming if you're filing 1513 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,559 Speaker 1: anything that's involved perpetual motion, you have to do this 1514 01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,519 Speaker 1: because that was like the favorite invention of everyone has 1515 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,639 Speaker 1: to come up with a machine that didn't use energy 1516 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,920 Speaker 1: and just produced energy, and then none of them work, 1517 01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,160 Speaker 1: but they can always find people willing to invest in them. 1518 01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,439 Speaker 1: You probably remember some of the little things that you 1519 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,440 Speaker 1: could put in your air filter that would turn supposedly 1520 01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 1: swirling the air and improving your field economy. There's lots 1521 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,080 Speaker 1: of stuff like that people tried to do that have 1522 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 1: no real harmful effect on your colm, but don't really 1523 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,479 Speaker 1: do anything to help you. Or one of my favorites 1524 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,559 Speaker 1: something Yeah, I think I've mentioned on the podcast before, 1525 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,960 Speaker 1: and I've gotten some people who try to push back 1526 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,720 Speaker 1: on me with this. But do the research homeopathic medicine. 1527 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Most of it does no harm, most of it does 1528 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 1: no good, It does nothing. I love that speech that 1529 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 1: um that guy James Randy who goes by the Amazing Randy. 1530 01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 1: He's done it on Ted Talk, I believe in others 1531 01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 1: where he takes those comms homeopathic sleeping pills, drinks the 1532 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,040 Speaker 1: whole bottle on stage, does this all the time, and 1533 01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,840 Speaker 1: he's like, why does this have no effect on me, 1534 01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,800 Speaker 1: And then he goes into what homeopathic medicine is, which 1535 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:58,360 Speaker 1: is basically a extremely tiny minute amount of an active 1536 01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,920 Speaker 1: ingredient and the rest is big your sugar pill that 1537 01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,040 Speaker 1: you're taking. And that's how it gets past the FDA. 1538 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,960 Speaker 1: It has no harmful side effects because it has no 1539 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:08,719 Speaker 1: it's mostly water. If it is, is it FDA regular, 1540 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 1: because I know that um like supplements that you'll buy 1541 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 1: in a vitamin store, like vitamin shot, it's not FDA regulated, 1542 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,840 Speaker 1: And what kind of claims you make about it? If yeah, 1543 01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 1: it heals anything, helps, anything, cures anything, you gotta run 1544 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,439 Speaker 1: to the FDA. So what they do is, you know 1545 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,880 Speaker 1: this is FDA c well basically that's you know, few 1546 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,599 Speaker 1: Food and Drug Administration. So they're presenting it almost as 1547 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,040 Speaker 1: something you eat. It's not going to poison you. It 1548 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:34,640 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's gonna do any good. But I just 1549 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 1: know something that's only that the multi vitamins are crap, 1550 01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:41,920 Speaker 1: that they don't do a thing for you. Stuff on. 1551 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,000 Speaker 1: I think that's one of those things where because I've 1552 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,680 Speaker 1: also seen people say, like Omega three, I take a 1553 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,519 Speaker 1: multi vitamin. So I don't want to I don't want 1554 01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,600 Speaker 1: to think that I've been wasting all the money. You 1555 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 1: pass it. Apparently you pass it. Most of what you 1556 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,599 Speaker 1: get vitamin was apparently you get from which you eat. 1557 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 1: The only place where you need to really supplement things 1558 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,160 Speaker 1: is in places where, for example, a few was but 1559 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:01,640 Speaker 1: you couldn't get any strus or anything like that. You 1560 01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,680 Speaker 1: want to probably take a C supplement or something like that. 1561 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,439 Speaker 1: But our diets enormously buried. In this country. People can 1562 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,120 Speaker 1: obtain almost everything they need vitaminalis from the food they 1563 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,240 Speaker 1: you don't need, although the problem is you have people, 1564 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people in this country. We were eating 1565 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 1: like three meals a day at McDonald's. Yeah, well, I 1566 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:21,719 Speaker 1: mean there's probably vitamin seen tomatoes, very switching to switch 1567 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,680 Speaker 1: it up to the big mctasty once in a while. 1568 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,080 Speaker 1: But you though this is coming from someone who had 1569 01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,760 Speaker 1: McDonald's list. But they do say that C, vitamin C 1570 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,800 Speaker 1: and vitamin B those are actually have some you know, 1571 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 1: as you take those those, actually you get something from those. 1572 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:34,760 Speaker 1: You can put the multi vitams I see you pass 1573 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,040 Speaker 1: most of it. Your body doesn't even end up using 1574 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 1: it because if you over do on vitamin your body 1575 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 1: excretes them. We don't need all this shovels it out. Um, 1576 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,639 Speaker 1: So when you were a kid, that was a panic. 1577 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,320 Speaker 1: You know, the diets weren't weren't as very thirty fourty 1578 01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 1: years ago when kids were little and there were kids 1579 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:53,800 Speaker 1: that were anemic. They weren't getting at whatever that is 1580 01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:58,520 Speaker 1: vitamin A end up anemic and they were giving kids supplements, 1581 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,720 Speaker 1: and you know they flooridated water or and you know 1582 01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,200 Speaker 1: all these other things. But they were always done for like, 1583 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,439 Speaker 1: not the majority of the population. That amost always done 1584 01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,759 Speaker 1: for a minority the population that's deficient in certain vitamins 1585 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,680 Speaker 1: and minerals or things like that. But if you just 1586 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 1: need a balanced diet, I mean, chances are you gonna 1587 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:15,360 Speaker 1: be fine with you know, you're not gonna be vitamin 1588 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 1: deficient and anything. If you just need a good mix 1589 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,000 Speaker 1: of you know, fruit and vegetables and meats and stuff 1590 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,120 Speaker 1: like that, yeah, you should be fine. I mean, you'll 1591 01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,640 Speaker 1: know if your vitamin deficient. Sure, well, I think if 1592 01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,760 Speaker 1: you get your blood tested regularly, because I actually did. 1593 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,160 Speaker 1: It was like low on vitamin D started supplementing with it. 1594 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,639 Speaker 1: Because these winters in New York, which is you are 1595 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 1: in sunny Florida, which you know, and then you come 1596 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,120 Speaker 1: here to like gloom and doom New York, you must 1597 01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,280 Speaker 1: be missing it. I'm this tan just walking to my 1598 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,400 Speaker 1: car from the house. That's why they get a tan 1599 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,120 Speaker 1: like this just going to your c I would love 1600 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,439 Speaker 1: to live in Florida, man, I I'm kind of jealous 1601 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,519 Speaker 1: of you being there. Um. You know, all all the 1602 01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,280 Speaker 1: different states have their trying to New York is a 1603 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 1: really great city. I always enjoy what I'm here. All 1604 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,519 Speaker 1: the things I thought you know about New York are 1605 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,679 Speaker 1: not true, except for the traffic to traff The traffic 1606 01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,799 Speaker 1: is true. To try think it's true. It is bumper 1607 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,879 Speaker 1: to bumper everywhere all the time constantly. But people are friendly, 1608 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:09,439 Speaker 1: services good. Um it's it's really It's about as expensive 1609 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,080 Speaker 1: from Miami originally, so you know, things are about as 1610 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,160 Speaker 1: costly as they are in any major city. It isn't 1611 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,640 Speaker 1: like special. Um. But yeah, I always enjoyed when I 1612 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,200 Speaker 1: coming here. But Florida is all about where you got. 1613 01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,200 Speaker 1: Florida is more than one thing. People think Florida's all 1614 01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,759 Speaker 1: the beach. Yeah. I recently, um took a short trip 1615 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,080 Speaker 1: to Florida, like a long weekend. The thing is with 1616 01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,360 Speaker 1: doing this, I have to be here every Tuesday and 1617 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,080 Speaker 1: Thursday and record, which you know, I'm certainly not complaining about. 1618 01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,240 Speaker 1: But I did a couple of days in Tampa, and 1619 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,120 Speaker 1: then he did a couple of days in like Boca, Ratona, 1620 01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:42,000 Speaker 1: Delry Beach, Dellerry Beach. I love because it almost feels 1621 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,200 Speaker 1: like New York. It is. All the East Coasters come 1622 01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,679 Speaker 1: to the east coast of Florida. All the Midwestern is Ohio, Michigan, Indiana. 1623 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,599 Speaker 1: That's all west coast of Florida. Um. Actually that's part 1624 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,679 Speaker 1: of Tampa something like that. If you go south into Brainton. 1625 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,920 Speaker 1: So so there's like Mennonite and Quaker communities on the 1626 01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 1: come down from Pennsylvania and stuff like that, which is 1627 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,720 Speaker 1: a real and uh in Florida with the clothes, that's 1628 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,439 Speaker 1: exactly what I was thinking in Florida. But but Miami heat. 1629 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,559 Speaker 1: But there's acidic Jews in Miami with the you know, 1630 01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,720 Speaker 1: with the big hats and the black wool coats and all. 1631 01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,080 Speaker 1: I might not where i'd want to live. I have 1632 01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 1: to wear that. Yeah that's hot. Yeah, that's a certain 1633 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 1: dedication to God right there, just to wear that in Miami. 1634 01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:23,320 Speaker 1: But and Palm Beach, all that's beautiful. I loved it. 1635 01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,479 Speaker 1: It was great. Um, well, hey, I appreciate you coming in. 1636 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,320 Speaker 1: This has been awesome. I'm I'm glad you brought it 1637 01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,200 Speaker 1: up to me that we we could do this. 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