Speaker 1: This is the Sean Hannity Show podcast. All right, you know,
Speaker 1: so much on the Republican side now depends on math
Speaker 1: delegate counts, and we've been focusing on that now and
Speaker 1: then in in light of what happened on Tuesday, the
Speaker 1: five states sweep by Trump, I want to focus on
Speaker 1: something today. Now, maybe if you if you begin to
Speaker 1: point out that on Tuesday, Trump won every county in
Speaker 1: every state, all five of them that had an election Maryland, Connecticut,
Speaker 1: Rhode Island, Delaware, Pennsylvania, mid Atlantic Northeastern states. Now, his
Speaker 1: victory was that dominant, that complete, So that helped his
Speaker 1: math out a lot. Now, everyone expected Trump to win
Speaker 1: those five states, but it was the margins of victory
Speaker 1: that that stood out. Here he outperformed expectations that were
Speaker 1: already high. And the mostly untold story is what we
Speaker 1: have focused in on even before the race began, which
Speaker 1: was Pennsylvania, which has one of the most confusing ballots
Speaker 1: in the country. And you folks in Pennsylvania need to
Speaker 1: fix this. It's a mess anyway. So how well he
Speaker 1: did among the fifty four previously uncommitted delegates. Now there's
Speaker 1: an analyst, Philip Kurpin, who was on our program a
Speaker 1: while back among the first to point out that among
Speaker 1: the fifty four district delegates, well, he pointed out the
Speaker 1: twenty eight or now publicly committed to Trump, only three
Speaker 1: committed to Cruise. And when you look at those leaning
Speaker 1: of those committed to supporting the winner of the district um,
Speaker 1: the total increases to probably closer to thirty eight for Trump,
Speaker 1: four for Cruise, four for case like eight others uncommitted.
Speaker 1: I have it a little higher than that, which means
Speaker 1: that Trump is right at a thousand delegates at this
Speaker 1: particular point in time. Remember the magic number one, two
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty seven, that's that's the number that matters.
Speaker 1: That is the so called magic number this year. So
Speaker 1: this was the first state I think you can say
Speaker 1: that on the ground game side, the Trump actually dominated
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania like he had not before. So those delegates
Speaker 1: are not factored into the delegate total you may have Trump.
Speaker 1: As of yesterday, using Rose Tenants numbers, we had one
Speaker 1: thousand and one delegates for Trump, all right, So that's
Speaker 1: a pretty big number. So Trump is in better shape
Speaker 1: than what you're reading in the papers because these people
Speaker 1: are committed now to this people have been saying, and
Speaker 1: I've been saying, Indiana, which holds its primary on Tuesday's
Speaker 1: key because they've got fifty seven delegates. It is key.
Speaker 1: But because Trump did so well in Pennsylvania among the
Speaker 1: uncommitted delegates, remember saying, you get seventeen delegates in Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: for winning the state, fifty four were uncommitted on bound
Speaker 1: and then remember on the back you didn't vote for
Speaker 1: the actual candidate Trump cruise case that you've voted for
Speaker 1: a delegate by name. And we went through the effort
Speaker 1: of finding out who the delegates were going to support,
Speaker 1: and then people ended up and some people said they
Speaker 1: would just support who the winner was and represent the
Speaker 1: will of the district at least on the first ballot.
Speaker 1: So that's how we not now get there. So because
Speaker 1: Trump did so well in Pennsylvania, the uncommitted delegates he has,
Speaker 1: he has given himself some cushion here should he lose Indiana.
Speaker 1: Although the polls there are three polls out one it
Speaker 1: has Trump plus five, one has plunged Trump plus eight,
Speaker 1: one was Trump plus six. So a lot of scenarios
Speaker 1: being discussed for understandable reasons. Nate Cone of the New
Speaker 1: York Times sees things this way. In the remaining ten states,
Speaker 1: this is now objective analysis. This is just I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm just giving you. I'm sort of like calling the
Speaker 1: game here. Um, Trump is safe, pretty safe bet in
Speaker 1: New Jersey and West Virginia. So he'll probably win about
Speaker 1: seventy of those contests and perhaps many is as many
Speaker 1: as eighty five. Uh, he'll win all of New Jersey.
Speaker 1: West Virginia has their own funky system. So that's that's
Speaker 1: in play a little bit more than you might think.
Speaker 1: I'll get to that when the time comes. But Trump
Speaker 1: could then win a further forty delegates or more from
Speaker 1: three states that award delegates proportionally, the two West coast
Speaker 1: states of Washington, Oregon, and well also West coast New Mexico,
Speaker 1: and he's likely to garner a pretty healthy share of
Speaker 1: delegates in those states whether he wins or not their
Speaker 1: proportional distribution of delegates now. Also, Trump is an underdog
Speaker 1: in three winner take all states in the West and
Speaker 1: in the plains areas Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska. So that
Speaker 1: leaves Indiana California as the most competitive remaining contests and
Speaker 1: the ones with the most delegates at stakes, so neither
Speaker 1: state is thought to be as strong for Trump as
Speaker 1: the Five States war on Tuesday. But Trump has led
Speaker 1: in every poll conducted in the two states since March,
Speaker 1: and they have a combined two nine pledged delegates, and
Speaker 1: they've awarded winner take all statewide and congressional district. For example,
Speaker 1: Indiana winner you get thirty. If you win the state,
Speaker 1: then it's by congressional district. I know this gets confusing
Speaker 1: and a little annoying, but it is the system that
Speaker 1: politicians have designed. What can you expect? And as for California,
Speaker 1: Real Clear Politics average poles, Trump is leading by almost
Speaker 1: eighteen points forty five point seven and twenty eight point
Speaker 1: three for cruise eighteen KIK California. The big prize big
Speaker 1: delegate prize of a hundred and seventy two at stake
Speaker 1: is winner take all by district. One blogger on hot
Speaker 1: air dot Com put it it's not implausible that Trump
Speaker 1: would take a hundred and thirty three or a hundred
Speaker 1: forty eight delegates from California alone and clinch the nomination
Speaker 1: even if he gets nothing from Indiana. And if Trump
Speaker 1: wins Indiana, which would let him a minimum of thirty delegates,
Speaker 1: he'd barely need to break a hundred in californ Warnia
Speaker 1: to clinch the nomination before the GOP convention in July.
Speaker 1: Uh The the pundit Alipundan summarizes things this way. Before yesterday,
Speaker 1: next week's voting, Indiana was set to be a decisive
Speaker 1: moment on the way to a broker convention. If CRUs
Speaker 1: won the state, the conventional wisdom went that Trump wouldn't
Speaker 1: realistically get to twelve thirty seven with the delegates left
Speaker 1: on the board, and we'd be set for a floor fight. Now,
Speaker 1: what's at stake in Indiana is simply just makes it
Speaker 1: harder for Trump, And if Cruise wins, he gets another
Speaker 1: shot at stopping Trump somewhere in California on June seven.
Speaker 1: If Cruiz loses, um at least these people from their
Speaker 1: math standpoint, I again, I'm giving you analysis here. It's
Speaker 1: it's next to impossible at that point probably to stop it,
Speaker 1: uh stop stop Trump getting from twelve thirty seven to
Speaker 1: twelve thirty seven. So that explains the Cruise caseing non
Speaker 1: aggression packed which appears to be falling apart. It probably
Speaker 1: explains why Senator Cruz picked Carle Fierina to be Cruzes
Speaker 1: running mate if he wins the nomination, and it probably
Speaker 1: explains why Cruz left for Indiana before last Tuesday's vote.
Speaker 1: While he's kind of camped out in the Hoosier state,
Speaker 1: we will be with him and Carley tomorrow. There So
Speaker 1: Indiana's door died for Cruz specifically and the anti Trump
Speaker 1: forces generally. So it's no longer mandatory for Trump to
Speaker 1: win that state. But let me say a word about
Speaker 1: this that's making the rounds today. Last night, David Kennedy,
Speaker 1: there's a guy at Stanford University. He had a conversation
Speaker 1: with John Bayner, Professor. Kennedy asked Bayner to be frank,
Speaker 1: and the former speaker responded in kind when specifically asked
Speaker 1: his opinions on Ted Cruz. Bayner made a face and
Speaker 1: he drew laughter from the crowd, and then he said,
Speaker 1: lucifer in the flesh about Senator Ted Cruz quote. I
Speaker 1: have Democratic friends, I have Republican friends. I get along
Speaker 1: with almost everyone, But I have never worked with a
Speaker 1: more miserable s ob in my life. Now this is
Speaker 1: what really pisces me off. I just got done spending
Speaker 1: a half hour in this program talking about that if
Speaker 1: you look at the seventeen candidates, and you look beyond
Speaker 1: the seventeen candidates, and I don't count John Bayner in
Speaker 1: this group, talking more like people like Rudy Giuliani and
Speaker 1: New King Rich and some others that are not in
Speaker 1: politics currently. We have such a deep bench of intellectual
Speaker 1: firepower that if we were to unite at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you add in Rubio with Trump, and
Speaker 1: and Cruise with Trump, and and k Sik and Cruise
Speaker 1: and Trump and Rubio and Rick Perry, and you add
Speaker 1: him to the mix, and Bobby Gendle to the mix,
Speaker 1: and Nicki Halley to the mix, and Scott Walker to
Speaker 1: the mix, and Paul Ryan to the mix. And you know,
Speaker 1: maybe not there's no universal out here. But if they
Speaker 1: came together, and if Paul Ryan, who I had spoken
Speaker 1: to some time ago on the program, follows through on
Speaker 1: a positive Contract with America style agenda that deals with
Speaker 1: basically the Conservative solution Caucus that I built, there is
Speaker 1: a chance we could actually unite for the purpose of
Speaker 1: saving the country. I know that might sound absolutely pollyannish,
Speaker 1: pie in the sky like thinking to you, but one
Speaker 1: has got to hope. We've got to try, don't we.
Speaker 1: So many other people have sacrificed so much for us
Speaker 1: to give us this opportunity, and so many people are
Speaker 1: underwater and suffering and one paycheck away from absolute misery
Speaker 1: and poverty and unhappiness. It's just horrible. So you know,
Speaker 1: New Gingridge had, it's it's going to be the job
Speaker 1: of whoever gets this nomination to bring the party together.
Speaker 1: That's what's gonna happen. Some programming notes tonight Live Hannity
Speaker 1: ten o'clock. There is a big Trump speech out in California,
Speaker 1: will probably end up carrying a lot of that, and
Speaker 1: then tomorrow we'll have we'll do an Indiana town hall
Speaker 1: with Cruz and Carly. Details are on my website Hannity
Speaker 1: dot com. All right, let's go to Michael Is in
Speaker 1: Minneapolis and Minnesota up first today this Thursday edition of
Speaker 1: The Shawan Hannity Show. How are you good? Thank you,
Speaker 1: Mr Hannity. It is crucial your way of thinking, it's
Speaker 1: not pine in this guy. It is crucial the American
Speaker 1: people unite because I tell you, our neighborhood in Rochester, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: has already been taken over by refugees from Somali over
Speaker 1: the last six years. My wife and I got our
Speaker 1: concealed carry permits. She's a doctor at the number one
Speaker 1: hospital in the world. I can't mention the name. Uh,
Speaker 1: your your co your employee told me, but it's Obama's
Speaker 1: favorite hospital and they don't accept Obamacare. But she works there.
Speaker 1: And it's frightening where concealing where concealed carry carriers. We
Speaker 1: don't feel like our government wants to protect us. We've
Speaker 1: moved neighborhoods because of all the government housing that stopped
Speaker 1: up in the area. Our kids are twenty kids behind
Speaker 1: in the school bus now, and let me tell you,
Speaker 1: they're not Americans. They're standing behind and it's shameful. It's embarrassing,
Speaker 1: and we must unite as American people, I hope. So
Speaker 1: this may be our last shot, you know, maybe we'll
Speaker 1: have to really maybe we'll have to really appreciate. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate you taking my call a longtime fans. Thank
Speaker 1: you there and I both love and a doy yourself
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thank you so much, Michael. It means a lot. Uh.
Speaker 1: Lisa is in Fisher's, Indiana, will be in Indiana tomorrow.
Speaker 1: How are you? What's up, Lisa? Hi? Sean's going on? Darling,
Speaker 1: how are you great? Great? By the way, if I
Speaker 1: was in the workforce and I said, thank you, darling,
Speaker 1: come on all over here. But you know that's probably
Speaker 1: a suitable offense. But go ahead soon, heartbeat there. Hey,
Speaker 1: I just want to say I attended Grettis town all yesterday. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was good, wasn't it? Oh it was? It was electric. Um.
Speaker 1: But my point is that the question if Gretta, if
Speaker 1: if Trump would hire Gretta to work in his administration,
Speaker 1: that was pretty funny. She's she's phenomenal. She's just phenomenal.
Speaker 1: And I couldn't believe how tiny she is. But anyway,
Speaker 1: you know what people say about it that I look
Speaker 1: that I look younger, skinnier, um, and taller in person.
Speaker 1: So all my answers, I look like an old, fat
Speaker 1: short guy on TV. Well they say TV does it
Speaker 1: at about fifty pounds at least. I'm telling you all right,
Speaker 1: But anyway, I want to interrupt you. Go ahead, but hey,
Speaker 1: I just want to say, um, you know, after the
Speaker 1: media is a narrative that Trump doesn't have the female vote.
Speaker 1: Is cruck. More than half the audience yesterday, and half
Speaker 1: the people waiting in line around to city blocks to
Speaker 1: get into the town hall consisted of females. We just
Speaker 1: Donald just has a respect to women, and even in
Speaker 1: talking to women who even women from Chicago who came down,
Speaker 1: women who came from northern Indiana. It's it's just amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's so straightforward and he speaks from the heart,
Speaker 1: and women love them. I love them. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: very interesting. I I this campaign general election campaign has
Speaker 1: not begun yet. We've got to get through this process.
Speaker 1: Somebody's got to get the nomination. When that happens, I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that a lot of this hostility eventually falls off.
Speaker 1: If not, then we'll probably pay a price in November,
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe I'll just turn this into the
Speaker 1: Howard Stern Show. We'll talk about sex and strippers. I
Speaker 1: don't know, because it won't be worth talking about saving
Speaker 1: the country for a while if if she as elected president.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Lisa. Melenda is in North Carolina.
Speaker 1: We have a minute. Melinda, how are you glad you called? Um?
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call. I think that what Ted
Speaker 1: Cruz needs to do is just right this minute stepped
Speaker 1: down instead of continuing on. I think that he could
Speaker 1: unite the party by stepping down now telling his delegates
Speaker 1: to go support Trump, and then he looks like a
Speaker 1: big hero, unites the party, he becomes a big hero,
Speaker 1: he gives the Republican's time to get ready for the
Speaker 1: fight in November. Instead what he probably will be if
Speaker 1: he continues on, he'll be a SoundBite and of Clinton
Speaker 1: commercial and then he looks like a villain and couldn't
Speaker 1: be elected. Dogs. If if Senator Cruz, um, I respect
Speaker 1: him like a lot, doesn't win Indiana, I would actually
Speaker 1: say the responsibility of uniting the party is going to
Speaker 1: be at that point, it would be Donald Trump's. And
Speaker 1: if I was Donald Trump, I'd say that Senator Cruz,
Speaker 1: I want you in my administration or you would be
Speaker 1: my first Supreme Court justice pick. That's what I would say. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm only saying that again if he doesn't win Indiana.
Speaker 1: If he wins Indiana, the game goes on. I think
Speaker 1: without Indiana he has a very tough time, so it's
Speaker 1: a big, big focus for his campaign. Um, but I
Speaker 1: think I think new it was right last night. Whoever wins,
Speaker 1: it's their responsibility to unite people, and then mentioned you
Speaker 1: know Rick Perry and Bobby Jendall and Marco Rubio and
Speaker 1: Scott Walker and all these other great people that you
Speaker 1: can bring in and make a team. I kind of
Speaker 1: like the team concept. But anyway, Melinda, great, thanks for
Speaker 1: the call. Appreciate. By the way, I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: Sherry's Bury's you there, and I really love your TV
Speaker 1: show in your radio Thank you. Former presidential candidate himself,
Speaker 1: well presidential candidate Mr. Nine nine nine. That would be
Speaker 1: Herman Kane. By the way, do you know my name?
Speaker 1: Do you know your name is Herman Kane? Do you
Speaker 1: know my name? N Okay told me Shane. You call
Speaker 1: me Chap, you called me Neil, you called me everybody
Speaker 1: on my show, but my own name. Do you even
Speaker 1: know when you're on my show? I do now, I practice.
Speaker 1: I told you I got it right, and you've been
Speaker 1: Carson last night. I don't say all right. Let's go
Speaker 1: to Ben Caane from Atlanta? I mean Dr Ben Caine.
Speaker 1: What is what are you doing to me? Good to
Speaker 1: be with you? Man? How are you my friend? I
Speaker 1: can't tell you? Uh? Shane? Ye? Look, I talked to
Speaker 1: Shane every day on my radio show. You gotta give
Speaker 1: me a little bit of slag. Oh man, I don't
Speaker 1: know about that. My friend. That clip that you paid
Speaker 1: played said it all. It is insanely ridiculous that these
Speaker 1: anti Trump people are digging in their heels. And like
Speaker 1: I said at the end of the clip, if Hillary
Speaker 1: Clinton gets elected president because Trump will did not the nomination,
Speaker 1: it's their fault. I'm putting them on notice. I feel
Speaker 1: that's strongly about it, and a few of the people
Speaker 1: do also. I think it's gonna be Look, it looks
Speaker 1: like it looks like now and Indiana is going to
Speaker 1: tell a very big story next week. It looks like
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has that he has the path and it's
Speaker 1: going to be up to the voters in Indiana and
Speaker 1: and subsequent states New Jersey, West, Virginia, and we all
Speaker 1: know the states Nebraska, and then of course going into California.
Speaker 1: So the question is, I I cannot for the life
Speaker 1: of me, and maybe you can explain it, because you're
Speaker 1: probably getting the same type of social media attacks that
Speaker 1: I am and emails that I'm getting. And I pay
Speaker 1: attention to people because I care about my audience and
Speaker 1: I know you care about yours. But I don't understand
Speaker 1: never Cruiz, I don't understand never Trump. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I'm staying home. I don't understand at all why people
Speaker 1: are creating the circuit a firing squad, because maybe they
Speaker 1: haven't realized yet the ramifications are the consequences of a
Speaker 1: Hillary presidency. During this primary, they're still focus on destroying
Speaker 1: each other, and that's unfortunate. You've got the Crew supporters
Speaker 1: trying to destroy Trump. You've got the Trump supporters trying
Speaker 1: to destroy Cruise and Casey, and on and on and on. Hopefully,
Speaker 1: once we get through this primary process, then they will
Speaker 1: understand the magnitude of trying to beat Hillary for the
Speaker 1: presidency in November. Only time will tell, all right, I
Speaker 1: want to know this. Look, I understand we started out
Speaker 1: with seventeen people, and I remember following you closely when
Speaker 1: you ran in and and and there was a period
Speaker 1: there where you were in the lead, and then I
Speaker 1: we all know now, as a matter of fact, it's
Speaker 1: not even it's incontrovertible that the attacks against you were vicious,
Speaker 1: false lies, narratives that were advanced. I'm sure that hurt
Speaker 1: you personally, but it also impacted your place in the race,
Speaker 1: and I thought it was extremely unfair you had I
Speaker 1: had a lot of momentum leading up to that, but
Speaker 1: then the process ends, and for a lot of people
Speaker 1: that support a candidate, they seemed to be having a
Speaker 1: tough time emotionally dealing with the fact that their guy lost.
Speaker 1: How did you deal with it? Because you're very magnanimous.
Speaker 1: One of the things I love about being around you.
Speaker 1: I can't be around you without hearing that that laugh
Speaker 1: of yours and and just having a great old time.
Speaker 1: I mean, You're just a lot of fun to be around.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure it was pretty painful for a while.
Speaker 1: It was the way I dealt with it was I
Speaker 1: explained to my supporters that my family and the lies
Speaker 1: and the hurt that it caused my family was more
Speaker 1: important than me continuing to stay in the race. Secondly,
Speaker 1: because some people in the media didn't do their job.
Speaker 1: If they had done their job, Sean, if they had
Speaker 1: done their job, they would have determined that one of
Speaker 1: the accusers was paid directly to read the statement against me.
Speaker 1: Another accuser, if they had done their job, was found
Speaker 1: guilty in a court of law in Georgia of lying
Speaker 1: against a business partner. They didn't want to go that far.
Speaker 1: All they lashed onto was a frenzy to try and
Speaker 1: bring down Herman Kine. I didn't have the financial resources
Speaker 1: to fight lawsuits in three instances while I was running
Speaker 1: for president. That's why I had to drop out. The
Speaker 1: only candidate for president running for president in the Republican
Speaker 1: primary that talked to me before he declared this may
Speaker 1: not surprise as you well, Donald Trump. And when Donald
Speaker 1: Trump talked to me, he asked me what should I
Speaker 1: look out for? The only advice I keep Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: let me guess, look out for the attacks, looking out
Speaker 1: for the boom, and be prepared for multiple lawsuits. This
Speaker 1: is what I said to Donald Trump. Be and I said, Donald,
Speaker 1: you have the money to fight multiple lawsuits while do
Speaker 1: you run for president. I didn't have that kind of
Speaker 1: money to fight multiple lawsuits while I was running for president.
Speaker 1: That's all I told him. I didn't talk to him
Speaker 1: anything about domestic policy, foreign policy. It wasn't about that.
Speaker 1: It was about giving him a heads up of how
Speaker 1: he's going to be attacked. Now Here's what I didn't know, Sean.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that the Republican establishment was going to
Speaker 1: be one of those that came after him. That's what
Speaker 1: I am frustrated and disgusted about. What do you tell
Speaker 1: your audience because you're a conservative, I'm a concern pervative.
Speaker 1: I think you've taken the same position as me. You're
Speaker 1: not endorsing, is that correct? Correct? Okay? But you had
Speaker 1: your six favorites, you called them right, yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 1: So when people ask you, well, is Donald Trump a conservative?
Speaker 1: How do you answer that? It doesn't matter? Labels are
Speaker 1: the things that the media and the liberals used to
Speaker 1: try and pigeonhole candidates. Don't focus on the labels. Push
Speaker 1: the labels aside, and listen for what it is that
Speaker 1: you want to hear from that candidate. And you have
Speaker 1: you interviewed him a lot? I did. He's been on
Speaker 1: my radio show twice. Yes. And here's the thing. If
Speaker 1: you look at the results of just Tuesday alone in
Speaker 1: those five states, what that says to me, which is
Speaker 1: different from the message that you're getting from the liberal media,
Speaker 1: is that people look past the political noise. I said
Speaker 1: months ago. People are voting for a leader, a fighter,
Speaker 1: and a winner. That's what they're looking for. They are
Speaker 1: not focusing on all of the noise that's coming from
Speaker 1: some of the liberal media and from the other Canada,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at that. That's why he continues to surge.
Speaker 1: And I happen to believe, and I don't like to
Speaker 1: make predictions, he is going to surge in Indiana for
Speaker 1: the same reasons. What are your thoughts then, on Senator
Speaker 1: Cruz at this point? At this point, Senator Cruise was
Speaker 1: one of my original pick six. So if he were
Speaker 1: to get the nomination, which I don't think he's going
Speaker 1: to get it on the first ballot and maybe not
Speaker 1: on the second, I would still be able to support him.
Speaker 1: I happen to thing that he has been misguided on
Speaker 1: some of his strategy in terms of how to get
Speaker 1: the nomination. And here's what I mean, his strategy after today,
Speaker 1: I watched a couple of his interviews, watched a couple
Speaker 1: of the speeches given by Cardiff Arena has been all
Speaker 1: about stopping Trump. I think that's a flaw strategy. His
Speaker 1: strategy ought to be Here's why I'm the better candidate.
Speaker 1: But see that political consultants don't tell them that that.
Speaker 1: Political consultants always tell them go on the attack, go negative,
Speaker 1: that's how you win. I don't believe. So. Like when
Speaker 1: I call you in eight years from now and say
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run for president, what advice were you gonna
Speaker 1: give me? First of all, I'm gonna say, don't do it.
Speaker 1: If you determined to do it, here are a few
Speaker 1: thinks said I would get ready for the attack us.
Speaker 1: Remember Sean, I went through that same moment of insanity. Okay, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in eight years. I understand. But if
Speaker 1: you decide to run, what I'm gonna say is number one,
Speaker 1: make sure that you are clear on your message and
Speaker 1: stick to it. Number two, you gotta be care for
Speaker 1: who you surround yourself with. You can't trust everybody just
Speaker 1: because they have political experience on that resume. This is
Speaker 1: what's happening to John Kasick. In my opinion, John Kasick
Speaker 1: had some people who have been in politics for a
Speaker 1: long time. That's fine, But guess what John, All of
Speaker 1: his senior advisors worked for losers. Why did they lose?
Speaker 1: They lost because they use the typical political consultant advice
Speaker 1: of do negative and attack people. Now, to John Kasicks credit,
Speaker 1: he has said he was not going to get down
Speaker 1: in the go and no. But everybody but Herman, You
Speaker 1: and I both know. Everyone says, oh, they hate negative ads,
Speaker 1: but they work. Everyone says, oh, you can't go negative,
Speaker 1: but it works. It's just the reality of people don't
Speaker 1: want to spend the energy of trying to be creative
Speaker 1: enough to create positive ads. That's why they say that, Well,
Speaker 1: it is funny. I mean, after all those time, I mean,
Speaker 1: how many times a day to you here, it's not
Speaker 1: just me that says that, I'm sure right, And what
Speaker 1: I'm seeing is the reason that they'd say that it
Speaker 1: works is because sometimes it does. But they don't keep
Speaker 1: track of the times that it doesn't work. Sean, They
Speaker 1: don't ask you this question it doesn't work. Look at
Speaker 1: all Canadas that have lost because they went down that
Speaker 1: road and they stayed and lost. They only tell you
Speaker 1: that because of the few instances where the negative advertising works.
Speaker 1: I don't think negative advertising is going to get Cruise
Speaker 1: the nomination in this case, because let me ask this question.
Speaker 1: Let's just put aside, they're not They're not buying that
Speaker 1: stuff this time. I also think that people want an outsider,
Speaker 1: and that was evidenced on Tuesday night. That was one
Speaker 1: of the number one questions and indianimal way. And next,
Speaker 1: here's what I've been saying. No one person you were
Speaker 1: in what Godfather's Pizza? You are a top executive at PEPSI.
Speaker 1: What are the big companies that drive top executive that
Speaker 1: I was worked for? Coca Cola? I worked executive with
Speaker 1: the Pillsber Company, Bernstein Corporate. Yes, all right, so I
Speaker 1: got wrong. Boy, that's almost sacrilegious. If you work for
Speaker 1: Coke and I said Pepsi, geez, you had to of
Speaker 1: course you have to correct me. Sorry, I don't have
Speaker 1: your your your resume et. Okay, oh do you say something? Okay,
Speaker 1: not exactly. But here's my question. We have people like
Speaker 1: Herman Kane out there, and Ben Carson out there, and
Speaker 1: Rick Perry out there, and John Kasick out there, and
Speaker 1: Scott Walker and Nicky Haley and Bobby Jendal and and
Speaker 1: all of these great you know, New King Rich Rudy Juliani.
Speaker 1: Why do I think that you know, no one president
Speaker 1: can run the country. You need a team around you.
Speaker 1: You can't do a great radio show if you don't
Speaker 1: have Pete Spriggs and and all the people that worked
Speaker 1: for you. So and it's the same with me. And
Speaker 1: my radio and television show. Don't you think a united
Speaker 1: sort of like the united stars of the Republican Party
Speaker 1: and conservative movement, if they unite together, we could actually
Speaker 1: really save this country? Or am i or am I
Speaker 1: living in a fantasy world? Absolutely? Now you're not in
Speaker 1: a fantasy world. If you look at the seventeen people
Speaker 1: that started out in the Repolcan primary race, there is
Speaker 1: a lot of talent there that's been out there campaigning.
Speaker 1: If whoever the nominee is doesn't tap into that, I
Speaker 1: think it would be a mistake. Secondly, you have a
Speaker 1: lot of conservative, very talented people wanting to serve this country.
Speaker 1: They just have to be smart enough to surround themselves
Speaker 1: with some of those people, not necessarily political operatives, because
Speaker 1: that's been the problem. I think that we have a
Speaker 1: humongous opportunity. This is why I go back to my
Speaker 1: first point. Those people that are part of the never
Speaker 1: Trump or the anti Trump campaign, they're doing a disservice
Speaker 1: to the Republican Party, and they're doing it a disservice
Speaker 1: to the United States of America. Because this is critical,
Speaker 1: really is that's it's far more severe. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: have you seen our friends lately. I talked to him
Speaker 1: yesterday on AM. He is as onerous and chorus as ever.
Speaker 1: I am telling you, he's like a teenager inside a
Speaker 1: seventy year old man's body. It's unbelievable. And listen, I
Speaker 1: kind of live vicariously through his madness. But it's it's fun,
Speaker 1: all right, Herman, We love you. I do have a
Speaker 1: message for all you feminists out there who applauded the
Speaker 1: Obama administration when they made women eligible for combat. You
Speaker 1: know Barney Rubble and what's his name, Fred Flintstone. That's
Speaker 1: a that's the whole gender card thing that Trump and
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton will get into if if it's those two candidates.
Speaker 1: But anyway, once they removed the restrictions against women serving
Speaker 1: in combat, well guess what, there's no longer any logistical
Speaker 1: basis now to exclude women from the draft. Now, look,
Speaker 1: I don't care if you call Barney Rubble. I don't
Speaker 1: care if you call me bam, bam. You can call
Speaker 1: me Fred Flintstone. Linda, why are you smiling? Because it's true.
Speaker 1: But if somebody breaks into my house, I view it
Speaker 1: as my job to say, you guys hide here, you
Speaker 1: guys call n one and I will deal with what's
Speaker 1: ever out there or down there. Oh, Hannity, that's because
Speaker 1: you're sexist. No it's not. I just you know what's
Speaker 1: wrong with acknowledging a simple truth. Look, unless you're Rhonda Rousey,
Speaker 1: who is an exceptionally strong woman, or any of the
Speaker 1: women of m M A uh, the reality is men
Speaker 1: are generally speaking, there are exceptions physically stronger than men.
Speaker 1: And if you're talking about combat or any type of
Speaker 1: physical confrontation, I don't think it's old fashioned for men
Speaker 1: to take on that role. Anyway. Under the new rules,
Speaker 1: eighteen year old women, uh could be yanked off the
Speaker 1: cheerleading squad and drafted into the infantry, whether or not
Speaker 1: your daughters like it or not. I wonder if this
Speaker 1: may raise issues for the campaign anyway. Political put out
Speaker 1: In a new twist in the debate over women in
Speaker 1: combat the combat, the House Arm Services Committee yesterday late
Speaker 1: last night adopted a proposal to require that women register
Speaker 1: for the selective Service in the event that we have
Speaker 1: a military draft. Now that's a proposal that it's GOP
Speaker 1: sponsor who actually voted against it, intended to make a
Speaker 1: point about, and that was women serving in the front lines.
Speaker 1: This is Duncan Hunter, by the way, who we like
Speaker 1: a lot on this program. It was a marathon session.
Speaker 1: They were crafting a new defense policy bill. The panel
Speaker 1: backed Duncan Hunter's amendment by a vote of thirty two
Speaker 1: to thirty and by his own admission, he doesn't not
Speaker 1: actually intend to include women and a draft and voted
Speaker 1: down his own amendment. And then he opposed the Pentagon's
Speaker 1: decision to open all bad jobs to women earlier this year,
Speaker 1: and has argued that his colleagues have failed to fully
Speaker 1: account for the implications of the shift. I've talked to
Speaker 1: coffee house liberals in San Francisco, conservative families who pray
Speaker 1: three times a day, he said, during the markup of
Speaker 1: the Defense Authorization Act, which set several overall policies for
Speaker 1: the armed forces, and neither of those groups wants their
Speaker 1: daughters to be drafted. And by the way, neither do I.
Speaker 1: I want to make a point about this. Let's go
Speaker 1: to World War two. America is hit by the Japanese
Speaker 1: of Pearl Harbor. Half our navy is taken out in
Speaker 1: that attack. We weren't prepared for it. Um America's entrance
Speaker 1: into World War two became a national effort. Yes, the
Speaker 1: men were on the front lines. The men were slamming
Speaker 1: the beaches of Normandy. The men were taking on the
Speaker 1: Nazis and Imperial Japan. The men were doing the fighting.
Speaker 1: But without the equipment in the arms and munitions and everything,
Speaker 1: the tanks and the planes that were being made and
Speaker 1: manufactured oftentimes by women back in America, they would not
Speaker 1: have been able to do their jobs. And when when
Speaker 1: this conflict beat this battle, defeat that modern day evil.
Speaker 1: So it does does one role make it you? You
Speaker 1: cannot have success? I was mentioned in this yesterday, there's
Speaker 1: no one person as president that can successfully governor nation.
Speaker 1: It's a team that a person will build around them.
Speaker 1: And if you have the right people, and I was
Speaker 1: talking about the deep bench within the Republican Party, and
Speaker 1: that's successful governors, some of whom ran for president, others
Speaker 1: who didn't. I mean, would you not want a Rudy
Speaker 1: Giuliani maybe as the attorney general prosecuting Hillary Clinton? You know,
Speaker 1: do you not want to tap into the genius that
Speaker 1: is form Speaker of the House new Gang Rich? Do
Speaker 1: you not want to tap into the success people like
Speaker 1: Scott Walker or John Kaysake or or Governor Rick Perry
Speaker 1: or Bobby Jindall I mean, or Nicky Haley or any
Speaker 1: of these Republicans that actually did great jobs by governing
Speaker 1: conservatively in their home states. So I was talking about that.
Speaker 1: So anyway, just this is this is where your your
Speaker 1: modern day feminist movement has brought us to. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to our busy telephones here. Let's say, how
Speaker 1: does Steve is in State college in Pennsylvania? Steve Hi,
Speaker 1: how are you glad you called? Hey? Sean? Great talking
Speaker 1: with you. See, I had two quick points. First of all,
Speaker 1: the delicate list you posted on your website was really
Speaker 1: important here in Pennsylvania. He came down pretty close to
Speaker 1: the whire you here and a lot of us were
Speaker 1: worrying about which delegates to vote for. So number one,
Speaker 1: thank you very much for posting affirmation on website. And
Speaker 1: by the way, we did that for everybody supporting any anidate. Now,
Speaker 1: it does turn out that of the fifty four that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump did get the majority of those unbound delegates,
Speaker 1: at least on the first round of balloting, So he's
Speaker 1: much closer to a thousand delegates than what is being
Speaker 1: reported in the paper. Second of all, what is really important?
Speaker 1: And you talked to a lot of prominent Republicans, and
Speaker 1: I think this question has to be asked, now, do
Speaker 1: they hate Donald Trump more than they loved their country
Speaker 1: because the consequences of our Republican and obviously it looks
Speaker 1: like Donald Trump not winning the White House disastrous for
Speaker 1: this entire country for generations to come. So I'd really
Speaker 1: be interested in the answer to that question is when
Speaker 1: he talked to these never Trump Republicans. Look, I think
Speaker 1: it's a bad idea. Um. Republicans in d C have
Speaker 1: earned this insurgency. The Republican base has spoken. The most
Speaker 1: under reported poll out of all these exit polls, that
Speaker 1: we always talked about after all these races is the
Speaker 1: fact that pretty much all throughout the country that Republicans
Speaker 1: sixty of them feel betrayed by their party. I mean,
Speaker 1: there was a poll that came out off I'll look
Speaker 1: at my pile here, I'll find it somewhere, but I
Speaker 1: think it was a rasp musin Paul. I mean, fully,
Speaker 1: you have a fifty disapproval rate, an upside down unfavorable
Speaker 1: rate by Republicans. I mean that is they've they've earned
Speaker 1: this insurgency. Now, I think that's my point is how
Speaker 1: I mean, are they gonna if they don't go for
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, assuming he's going to be the Republican nominee
Speaker 1: for president? What what what is their answer? Hillary? Hillary President?
Speaker 1: Where is she going to take this country? What's she's
Speaker 1: gonna do to Supreme Court? That's all I'm saying to
Speaker 1: these people that are saying never Trump, and I get
Speaker 1: the fact that they created this, but what's their alternative
Speaker 1: at this point? So it gets back to my question today,
Speaker 1: you know what you gotta do? I mean, look at
Speaker 1: immigration for one example, I mean, who do you think
Speaker 1: is gonna be better on ISIS and radical those lam
Speaker 1: Who do you think it is going to be better
Speaker 1: on the economy? Who do you think is gonna put
Speaker 1: better people around them if Trump or or crews get
Speaker 1: to be the president. I've got to assume that that
Speaker 1: many of the names that I've been mentioning in the
Speaker 1: last week week and a half as an effort to
Speaker 1: to sort of anticipate the disunity that is arising here
Speaker 1: and the possibility of never Trump. Look numbers came out
Speaker 1: today by Scott Rasmussen and what what the polls showed
Speaker 1: was among likely US voters, Trump and Clinton are tied.
Speaker 1: They have thirty eight percent each. Sixteen percent said they
Speaker 1: would vote for some other candidate if the presidential election
Speaker 1: comes down to those two six percent say they would
Speaker 1: stay home. Only two percent are undecided. Now, Trump has
Speaker 1: issues of building unity within his own party even more
Speaker 1: than Clinton and hers, but she has her own issues.
Speaker 1: It says, if Trump is the Republican nominee, sixteen percent
Speaker 1: of GOP voters say they would choose a third party candidate. Well,
Speaker 1: that's not going to be an option. And then you
Speaker 1: have five percent say they would stay home. That's twenty
Speaker 1: one percent of Republicans being stupid and offering a half
Speaker 1: a vote to Hillary. Now, if they choose to do that,
Speaker 1: then you get the government you deserve. I can't look,
Speaker 1: I can't make people vote anyway I want them to.
Speaker 1: I will make the case. I've got a thousand pages
Speaker 1: of OP research that I have been building on Hillary
Speaker 1: Clinton that that I will be unleashing at the right
Speaker 1: time to remind people just how bad and how dangerous
Speaker 1: a Clinton presidency would be. But if if those numbers
Speaker 1: would hold up, it's not going to be good. Now,
Speaker 1: Hillary has her own problems, similar numbers, but I would
Speaker 1: hate to see people, you know, Rick Perry said the
Speaker 1: other he was on the view I guess yesterday. I've
Speaker 1: always liked Rick Perry. I think Rick Perry would have
Speaker 1: been a good president. I really do. He did a
Speaker 1: great job in the state of Texas. And he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I vote put Trump. I'm gonna vote for the nominee.
Speaker 1: He's supporting Ted Cruz. Now. He hopes Ted Cruz can
Speaker 1: can win it. I don't know second or third ballot
Speaker 1: at the convention, but he said in the end he'll
Speaker 1: support I hope other people come along that way, and
Speaker 1: I respect his decision who he wants to support, but
Speaker 1: he said Hillary is just not an option for him.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you so much, Joe and Ella
Speaker 1: j Joe. I have known Joe now for some almost
Speaker 1: twenty five years as a caller. How are you, Joe?
Speaker 1: What's going on, Sir Sean. I'm doing great, love your show,
Speaker 1: and I just want to say that I strongly support
Speaker 1: dead Cruise. And one big reason, you know, the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court really bothers me. I've got three children, seven grandchildren.
Speaker 1: I'm totally convinced that dead. Cruise will appoint a conservative
Speaker 1: judge like Antonio and Scalia, and so that's one big reason.
Speaker 1: And but I'm just really fired up. You know, he
Speaker 1: got dead, got from the a C, from the American
Speaker 1: Conservative Union, from heritage, and I'm confident that he will
Speaker 1: be a super tax player, champion Sean and will do
Speaker 1: something about the terrible dead and the Hunter Tree and
Speaker 1: unfunded loud builders. And we just got to have a
Speaker 1: president like cru who are fight for the American taxpayers.
Speaker 1: But I love your show, and keep up the great work.
Speaker 1: And I'll thank you for Cruz well if Cruise doesn't
Speaker 1: get it. I am interested to hear Trump said that
Speaker 1: he would name names, uh compile a list before an election.
Speaker 1: Actually it's one of his upcoming policy speeches like he
Speaker 1: gave yesterday and foreign policy, where he would name the
Speaker 1: people a list of people and it would only be
Speaker 1: from that list that he would choose for the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: I'm interested in seeing that list. I really am. All right, Joe.
Speaker 1: Always good to hear your voice. Thank you, sir. All right.
Speaker 1: Ellen is in Birmingham and Alabama. W E r C.
Speaker 1: What's up? Ellen? How are you? We're glad you called Hey, Sehn,
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. First of all, I love
Speaker 1: my pillow. Thank you. Isn't it Isn't it amazing? It
Speaker 1: really isn't. It's not a It just is a great
Speaker 1: the best pillow I've ever had to make such a
Speaker 1: big difference. Thank you for saying that. Is awesome. So
Speaker 1: I think it's a time, Sean. I think that that
Speaker 1: we're beginning to see some hope and direction, and I
Speaker 1: think it's time for a Trump Rubio merger. Um. You
Speaker 1: know what CRUs did by pulling carly in, I think
Speaker 1: sort of open the door. And I know a lot
Speaker 1: of young people seem to have been torn between Rubio
Speaker 1: and um Bernie. Now if if Trump brought um Rubio
Speaker 1: on board, I think that what would happen is that
Speaker 1: we would draw a whole lot of the typical Democratic voters,
Speaker 1: and in addition, the Crew voters would be uh more
Speaker 1: comfortable because um, you know, Donald Trump, he's got tremendous
Speaker 1: ability to develop people for a business sign and that's
Speaker 1: what's missing in our government is a business mind and
Speaker 1: the success uh strategies and so forth. And I agree
Speaker 1: with you. I think, Marco, look if if it's Trump
Speaker 1: and that's what you're hypothetically you're bringing up here. If
Speaker 1: Trump wins, Marco is got to be on his short list,
Speaker 1: got to it's smart, He's he's a rising star. I
Speaker 1: know some conservatives are still mad at him over the
Speaker 1: immigration debacle. He has said and and comprehensive immigration reform.
Speaker 1: He has said over and over again how much he
Speaker 1: regrets it, and he paid a massive price for that mistake.
Speaker 1: And I think I've got to believe he's learned his
Speaker 1: lesson because he's a smart guy. Now the other people,
Speaker 1: if again using your hypothetical, if it's Trump, Ted Cruz
Speaker 1: has got to be on that list. Uh. John Kasik
Speaker 1: has got to be on that list. Scott Walker has
Speaker 1: got to be on that list. Uh. Paul Ryan, even
Speaker 1: even though his speaker probably doesn't want the job, doesn't
Speaker 1: want to run again, but I would say he would
Speaker 1: be on that list. Um, Bobby Jendle is a rock star,
Speaker 1: could be on that list. So Nicky Hayley could be
Speaker 1: on that list. And my hope is again I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm looking big picture here. I cannot do this radio
Speaker 1: show as efficiently, as and as effectively as I do,
Speaker 1: or the television show without being surrounded by the best
Speaker 1: and brightest people. I don't tell people every day how
Speaker 1: to do their job. I don't go around saying great
Speaker 1: job today, you know. I just if they mess up,
Speaker 1: I might say what are you doing? Because I expect
Speaker 1: them to perform as you expect me to perform every day.
Speaker 1: I've done a radio show by myself without a producer
Speaker 1: running the board over the years. So it's it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a team. And I think when people see a
Speaker 1: team that they're gonna or the potential of a team,
Speaker 1: I think it's it's certainly, but I think Marco has
Speaker 1: got to be right up there, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: In the dast you what shame is this alliance? I
Speaker 1: reckon eyes that the media is all eager to talk
Speaker 1: about an alliance. There is no alliance case that, and
Speaker 1: I'm ade a determination where to focus our energy, where
Speaker 1: to focus our assets, where to focus our resources? Case
Speaker 1: and I John Casey is a good man, He's an
Speaker 1: honorable man. We disagree on a number of policy issues,
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you where we do agree. We agree
Speaker 1: that Hillary Clinton as president would be a disaster, and
Speaker 1: we agree that nominating Donald Trump, Alex Hillary Clinton. Today,
Speaker 1: I'm in the plane and I see on television they
Speaker 1: have a new relationship has started, Cruiz and Carly. He's
Speaker 1: mathematically eliminated. He has set a record though. He is
Speaker 1: the first presidential candidate in the history of this country
Speaker 1: who's mathematically eliminated from becoming president who chose a vice
Speaker 1: presidential candidate. Okay, all right, and so the battle goes on.
Speaker 1: News round up and information overload. Our eight nine four one,
Speaker 1: Shaun is a to free telephone number. You want to
Speaker 1: be a part of the program. Alright. So when even
Speaker 1: the AP now they're a little behind us, Remember I
Speaker 1: said the winner of Pennsylvania guaranteed Donald Trump from Tuesday
Speaker 1: night seventeen delegates. Then you know, we went through a
Speaker 1: lot of this before the voting Tuesday, because they had
Speaker 1: the names of the delegates but not associated with the
Speaker 1: candidates on the ballot, which make which makes it very
Speaker 1: confusing for Republicans. Even the Democrats do a better job
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania than the Republicans anyway, So if you add up,
Speaker 1: the AP is confirmed that at least thirty three of
Speaker 1: them planned to support Trump. We have a number closer
Speaker 1: to about fifty. So the AP delegate count is officially
Speaker 1: now Ted Cruz five sixty two, John Kasik one fifty three,
Speaker 1: and we can't forget Senator Rubio one one. He is
Speaker 1: really in third place. Um so that would mean percentage
Speaker 1: wise that Trump needs around forty six percent of the
Speaker 1: remaining delegates for the twelve thirty seven, the magic number. Now,
Speaker 1: we've also pointed out that Trump could amass the most
Speaker 1: primary votes in the history of the Republican Party. That is,
Speaker 1: right now, he has roughly ten point one million votes,
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand more than Mitt Romney got during the
Speaker 1: entire primary campaign. And these primaries ahead include let's see
Speaker 1: popular pop heavily populated states like California, New Jersey, Indiana,
Speaker 1: and other states as well. It's almost about what ten
Speaker 1: contests left, so he will certainly probably shatter that record. Now.
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier in the program a new Rasmussen survey
Speaker 1: that points out likely voters find that Trump and Clinton
Speaker 1: are now tied at thirty eight percent each. Now, this
Speaker 1: follows on the heels of the battleground pole that had
Speaker 1: at a forty forty three race within the margin of
Speaker 1: vera between Trump and Clinton, sixty percent said that they
Speaker 1: would vote for some other candidate. If the presidential election
Speaker 1: comes down to those two six percent said they'd stay home.
Speaker 1: Only two percent are undecided. So the headline of the
Speaker 1: ras muse and report is twenty four percent of people
Speaker 1: would opt out of a Clinton Trump race. You gotta
Speaker 1: remember a lot of people don't vote already. That would
Speaker 1: not surprise me. So if you look at the the
Speaker 1: actual numbers, for example, of Clinton is the Democratic nominee,
Speaker 1: eleven percent of Democrats would vote third party, three percent
Speaker 1: would stay home. That's four percent would support the nominee.
Speaker 1: Eleven percent though, would support Trump. And that's a pretty
Speaker 1: amazing figure. And it's similar for Donald Trump here to
Speaker 1: weigh in on these new numbers and what to make
Speaker 1: of them. We have Jeff Lord. He's the former former
Speaker 1: associate political director in the Reggae administration. Of course, he
Speaker 1: also writes for The American Spectator, author of the book
Speaker 1: What America Needs, The Case for Trump. Jessica tar Love
Speaker 1: is a senior strategist with Doug shown has shown consulting.
Speaker 1: Welcome both of you, Hi, Sean, how are you? Why
Speaker 1: do I suspect you know? We see the Democratic numbers
Speaker 1: down almost Republican numbers up about six in terms of turnout.
Speaker 1: Why do I suspect Rasmuss And at the end of
Speaker 1: the day may have this wrong, because I think people's
Speaker 1: interests will be at an all time high by the
Speaker 1: time we get to November. Jeffrey Lord, Yeah, Sean, I
Speaker 1: mean this happens all the time. I mean we go
Speaker 1: back and forth in primary season about the viability of
Speaker 1: A or B, or seeing how terrible they are. And
Speaker 1: then what happens is you get to the actual election
Speaker 1: in November, and the American people when forced to choose
Speaker 1: between two candidates, Uh, they make their choice, and they're
Speaker 1: not always Uh. The nadow was doing well at the time.
Speaker 1: I remember years ago the Time magazine put Bill Clinton
Speaker 1: on the cover of their magazine with in X ray style,
Speaker 1: you know, implying that, you know, the guy was dishonest
Speaker 1: and not well liked and all of that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: And by November Bill Clinton was president elect. Ronald Reagan
Speaker 1: had sort of the same experience. A gallop pole of
Speaker 1: December nineteen seventy nine gave Jimmy Carter the vote to
Speaker 1: thirty three for Ronald Reagan. You know. A year later,
Speaker 1: Reagan was president. Elex so things change here. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is still I realized we're now almost to me,
Speaker 1: but we're still very early in this process. We've got
Speaker 1: a long way to go. How weak do you think
Speaker 1: Jessica Hillary Clinton has looked in this in this campaign
Speaker 1: against Bernie Sanders with nearly one contest, UM. I don't
Speaker 1: think she looks as weak as you might think that
Speaker 1: she looks are as Jeffrey might think that two looks.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, she certainly had lost contests. You really,
Speaker 1: if I told you at the beginning of this process
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders would take twenty states and territories, you would
Speaker 1: never have believe me. Talked about it, and I did
Speaker 1: not think it was as serious of a challenge. But
Speaker 1: certainly in the past six months I thought that, you know,
Speaker 1: even before we started in Iowa when you said, you know,
Speaker 1: when he was turning people out and he was climbing
Speaker 1: in the polls. Um. But we do have to remember
Speaker 1: she's had more than three million more votes than he does, UM,
Speaker 1: and he's winning decisively, and she's winning in states that
Speaker 1: have diverse populations. And we know that the Democratic days
Speaker 1: of this country is max and Bernie Sanders is not
Speaker 1: appealing at all. To anyone really but white. And Bernie
Speaker 1: did drag her very heavily to the left in a
Speaker 1: position she probably never wanted to be in, and all
Speaker 1: that will shifts back. No, he absolutely did. She'll shift
Speaker 1: back also, so she she only went left as a
Speaker 1: matter of convenience. I got it. Okay, he's done moving
Speaker 1: left either. You know Bernie Sanders. What everyone wants to
Speaker 1: say or think about Bernie Sanders, and I respect him
Speaker 1: enormously because he's your basic, out and out socialist. This
Speaker 1: is not about Bernie. This is about positions. And I
Speaker 1: guarantee you he is going to try and have that
Speaker 1: democratic platform that Hillary is going to run on, move
Speaker 1: as far to the left as he can possibly get it,
Speaker 1: and she's not going to be too thrilled with it either, Jeffrey,
Speaker 1: from your point of view, Um, this contest is not over.
Speaker 1: You see an alliance that has been made between although
Speaker 1: CRUs kind of denied it's on alliance. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't want to use the wrong word, but certainly an
Speaker 1: understanding between case It and Ted Cruz about what states
Speaker 1: they're going to campaign in and not campaign in. Trump
Speaker 1: still does need forty seven six percent of the remaining delegates.
Speaker 1: It's not over. He's got a tough contest. He's up
Speaker 1: plus five, plus six and plus eight and the three
Speaker 1: most recent Indiana poles. It's pretty much winter take, although
Speaker 1: not totally winter take all. Um, you get thirty delegates
Speaker 1: for winning the state, then you've got to win the
Speaker 1: congressional districts to get the majority of the rest. So, um,
Speaker 1: what's your take on Indiana and how important is that
Speaker 1: for Trump? Well, I think it's important. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's I don't think it's Uh, it's critical in this
Speaker 1: sense if he wins it, I don't know where Ted
Speaker 1: Cruise goes after that. Uh, Indiana has become, as as
Speaker 1: some of these states have become, along the way, a
Speaker 1: symbol of viability here, and Ted Cruise has really been
Speaker 1: blown out of the water here in the Northeastern United States. Uh.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can't do much better the Northeast
Speaker 1: the mid Atlantic states, that you've got to album. So
Speaker 1: now Indiana, this all on Indiana. If Donald Trump wins Indiana,
Speaker 1: I think effectively it's over for Ted Cruz if he
Speaker 1: loses Indiana, As say, Ronald Reagan lost Pennsylvania in April
Speaker 1: to George H. W. Bush or Bill Clinton lost something
Speaker 1: like thirteen primaries along the way. So if he loses Indiana,
Speaker 1: then he's going to go on. I mean, he's very
Speaker 1: he Trump will go on. He's very much ahead in
Speaker 1: California and that'll be the penultimate thing. I think he'll
Speaker 1: win New Jersey. I think he's going to do very well.
Speaker 1: So it's entirely conceivable here that we will get to
Speaker 1: the end of this process and he will have the
Speaker 1: majority in hand. What's your take on Donald Trump as
Speaker 1: an opponent for Hillary or what would you rather face?
Speaker 1: Ted Cruise of Donald Trump? Jessica, Oh, Ted Cruise a
Speaker 1: hundred percent. You know, he's just Ted Cruises. Um, he's
Speaker 1: too ideological, I think to win the presidency. You know,
Speaker 1: he's really far right. He's shown no malleability on the issues.
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about making fun of her about
Speaker 1: being able to pivot between going to the left and
Speaker 1: going to the center with Hillary Clinton. But Ted Cruz
Speaker 1: has no pivot in him. And he's really you know,
Speaker 1: stakes his campaign on that I'm being a constitutional conservative
Speaker 1: and trustworthy that he wouldn't you know, flip PLoP at
Speaker 1: all on these issues and the problem is that the
Speaker 1: way that he feels about the issues is out of
Speaker 1: step with the majority of Americans, and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: very hard for him to pull in independence. And certainly
Speaker 1: a lot of these Democrats who have been disenchanted with
Speaker 1: the Democrat Party have gone into you feared So another
Speaker 1: way to say this is as a Democrat, you fear
Speaker 1: Trump more. Why a thousand percent? I mean Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is first of all, he's charming and funny, which I
Speaker 1: think matters a lot um And I'm you know, you've
Speaker 1: seen obviously you've interviewed him a number of times. He has,
Speaker 1: you know, a style and a swagger about him that's appealing.
Speaker 1: He his stature. You know, he's a big guy and
Speaker 1: he's imposing, and he does I don't want to say
Speaker 1: he seems presidential because a lot of things that he
Speaker 1: says don't seem president ential to me at all. But
Speaker 1: he has more of a presence than Ted Cruze to me.
Speaker 1: And also the fact that he doesn't really have an
Speaker 1: ideology that you know for years he's been sticking to.
Speaker 1: There's a flexibility there that makes him dangerous, especially on
Speaker 1: women's issues. You know, Donald Trump is the only what
Speaker 1: about the exchange. Then that happened, you know. He Trump
Speaker 1: launched at the Hillary this week about her lack of
Speaker 1: appeal to women, and he's, you know, the only card
Speaker 1: she has is the woman's card, and she's got nothing
Speaker 1: else going. And he said, frankly, if Hillary were a man,
Speaker 1: I think she'd have about five percent of the vote. Um,
Speaker 1: And the beautiful thing is women don't like her, and
Speaker 1: there's some truth that they don't. I mean, women don't
Speaker 1: like Donald Trump. And I think Hillary's latest on favorable
Speaker 1: members are at fifty eight, which is not great and
Speaker 1: it's a problem. But women are delivering for her in
Speaker 1: these primaries, are coming out and droves for her actually,
Speaker 1: And I think that Donald Trump really took this tack
Speaker 1: too early in the race. Should have waited for the
Speaker 1: general when he was going to do it. But I
Speaker 1: think that the gender card and that argument, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be very difficult for Hillary because, on the one hand,
Speaker 1: trumps sexism or be sexism, I think, is a lot
Speaker 1: more on about styled and substance. You know, he kind
Speaker 1: of has this playboy sexism to him, and um, that's
Speaker 1: more difficult I think for women to turn against, you know,
Speaker 1: and Hillary she faced her entire life people saying, you know,
Speaker 1: you're only somebody because of your husband, You only got
Speaker 1: this because of your husband, or you know you're a loser.
Speaker 1: You lost in oh eight, Olivia is a disaster, you know,
Speaker 1: you're a rack vote, etcetera. And there are a lot
Speaker 1: of things that people come at her about them, and
Speaker 1: I think that she won't be able to fight the
Speaker 1: traditional war on women. You know, you can't just stand
Speaker 1: up there anymore and say we want equal pay, you know,
Speaker 1: we want better women's healthcare, etcetera. It has to be
Speaker 1: part of this more holistic or humanistic perspective on equality
Speaker 1: for everybody. And that's why younger women in the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party actually haven't been supporting her, because they say, you know,
Speaker 1: this is a general movement about equality, and that's where
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders appeals. So what is your take. Look, I
Speaker 1: think the one really brief exchange on Bill Clinton and
Speaker 1: how she was an accessory to all of his actions
Speaker 1: I think was devastating to Hillary Clinton. And Trump keeps
Speaker 1: saying to me and interviews at least, that he hasn't
Speaker 1: even started on Crooked Hillary, and it's only a matter
Speaker 1: of time and he's got the full encyclopedia. Now I
Speaker 1: know there's encyclopedia because I got a thousand pages of
Speaker 1: op research on Hillary that I'm just waiting to unload
Speaker 1: in the days and weeks to come right. And and
Speaker 1: the thing is that that Donald Trump is not afraid
Speaker 1: to use this too many times. And you you sean
Speaker 1: have been talking about this for years and I've been
Speaker 1: talking about it. Republican nominees, you know, boy, they'll go
Speaker 1: all after their their Republican opponents. But you finally put
Speaker 1: them on the playing field with a Democrat and and
Speaker 1: suddenly you know they're Mr. Nice guy. Well, they don't
Speaker 1: want to do this, They don't want to do that,
Speaker 1: they don't want to bring up Jeremiah Right, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera,
Speaker 1: And so they lose. Donald Trump that I had this
Speaker 1: conversation with him back inten in an interview for The
Speaker 1: American Inspected. I asked him this question and he made
Speaker 1: it plain then that if he decided to run for president,
Speaker 1: he would go all out and he would go right
Speaker 1: after his opposition. He's done it now with Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1: He is going to continue to do it. And frankly,
Speaker 1: that's what you've got to do because these folks are
Speaker 1: gonna are gonna come after you, and you've got to
Speaker 1: be able to fight back. And he is definitely going
Speaker 1: to do that. I don't think Hillary, if it is
Speaker 1: Trump in the end, and he still has to win
Speaker 1: this if it is him, I think I don't think
Speaker 1: Hillary will ever experience anything like this in her life.
Speaker 1: I think that's right, you know, And Sean, there is
Speaker 1: one other thing that has nothing really to do with
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, although he can take great advantage of it.
Speaker 1: It is very hard to get elected to a third
Speaker 1: presidential term for a political party. Um, you know, Bill
Speaker 1: Clinton couldn't turn that trick for Al Gore, George W.
Speaker 1: Bush couldn't do it for John McCain. I mean only Frankly,
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan in could get it done with George with
Speaker 1: his vice president. Other than that, it's very hard because
Speaker 1: you are people frankly get tired of you, I mean
Speaker 1: ideology side, they're just tired. And then you add in
Speaker 1: the ideology and what's going on at the moment, which
Speaker 1: is all right, I only have ten seconds. Well, how
Speaker 1: do you respond to cruises comments that Trump's not a conservative?
Speaker 1: Really quickly? Yeah? Well, I I think he's I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he's got he's got conservative positions on all kinds
Speaker 1: of things, from the Supreme Court to energy to the economy.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course he I think he's a conservative,
Speaker 1: now is he? Is he a conservative in the sense
Speaker 1: that perhaps Ronald Reagan was? Uh? Probably not? Probably not,
Speaker 1: But he's consernedly conservative enough in these venues. The other night,
Speaker 1: I went to a rally ten thousand people here in
Speaker 1: Harrisburg for Donald Trump. I mean I got to talk
Speaker 1: to a lot of these people who came up and
Speaker 1: talked to me because you know, they've seen me on TV.
Speaker 1: Great way, You're very handsome on TV. But I got
Speaker 1: a role. M Listen, I appreciate both of you being
Speaker 1: with us. Let's say hi to Greg Is in Jersey City,
Speaker 1: New Jersey, listening to the all new a M seven
Speaker 1: ten w R, which is the talk of New York
Speaker 1: and New Jersey. How are you? How you doing? Great?
Speaker 1: Term some porter and I listened to your show all
Speaker 1: the time. With the two points with regard to Cruz, uh, Lately,
Speaker 1: I can't even listen to the station. I can't whenever
Speaker 1: he's on, I have to turn it off because I mean,
Speaker 1: he just lies on every topic that there is. And
Speaker 1: I know, I mean, I say that you're trying to
Speaker 1: be fair and just let him talk, and you say,
Speaker 1: you want to let these guys talk and then you
Speaker 1: make your own decision. But when he's saying things that
Speaker 1: that are so obviously false, it's just unbearable to listen to.
Speaker 1: Like lately, he's saying a vote for Trump is a
Speaker 1: vote for Hillary Clint and he goes on to Trump
Speaker 1: wants Obamacare, Trump wants this, Trump wants and there's a
Speaker 1: lots Trump says every day that he doesn't want those things,
Speaker 1: and CRUs just gets on every day and says the
Speaker 1: exact opposite of what Trump is really stands for. You know,
Speaker 1: I read let me give you an example. I've read
Speaker 1: Brent Bozell. He sent out a letter to prominent conservatives
Speaker 1: to read that have that have endorsed Donald Trump to
Speaker 1: reconsider their vote. Now, you know Brent Bozell and I
Speaker 1: go back a long ways. He's been a great fighter
Speaker 1: in the cause for conservatism over the years, and and
Speaker 1: there were certain things in there that I would having
Speaker 1: interview Trump as often as I did, I would say, no,
Speaker 1: that's not his position. Now here's two ways to conduct
Speaker 1: an interview with the presidential candidate. And I'm bringing you
Speaker 1: inside my job here because if you listen to the
Speaker 1: candidates as they prosecute their case against the other candidate,
Speaker 1: they always want to make it appear as bad as
Speaker 1: they possibly can, and and and it happens on all sides.
Speaker 1: This has happened throughout the campaign. Now I have as
Speaker 1: a host two options as this is going on. Each time,
Speaker 1: I could say, I could be the special pleader for
Speaker 1: the other person and up, wait a second, but the
Speaker 1: person said this to me on this date and that date,
Speaker 1: and you're never gonna the interview is never gonna end.
Speaker 1: It's we're never gonna make any progress in the interview.
Speaker 1: I can promise you that. Does that make sense? Right?
Speaker 1: I understand that, but so so my so my answers,
Speaker 1: but hang on. But my answer and my antidote is
Speaker 1: that I'm giving equal time to both So in other words,
Speaker 1: you know, in other words, I don't have to sit
Speaker 1: there interrupting both of them, saying making the worst case
Speaker 1: for the other candidate and just let them lay out
Speaker 1: their vision. Now, some candidates spend more time attacking the
Speaker 1: other candidates over the years some candidates focus more on
Speaker 1: what their message is, what their mission is, and whatever
Speaker 1: positive things they want to do for the country. But
Speaker 1: I think in the end people get it. But I'm
Speaker 1: trying to bring you into my world and understand it.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense right? Definitely? It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: And like I said, they were subtle lies and misleading
Speaker 1: type of things. That's one thing Cruises boltantly outright lies
Speaker 1: about Trump's I mean, he actually was trying to say
Speaker 1: for a while there that Trump was mutual between Iran
Speaker 1: and Israel, when everyone knows that that's not what Trump
Speaker 1: meant when he was saying if he was negotiating a
Speaker 1: deal or trying to negotiate a deal, that he was
Speaker 1: gonna have to be neutral the negotiator. But by far
Speaker 1: he was a supporter of Israel. But who's took that
Speaker 1: on the team Campaigon trail and everywhere he went saying
Speaker 1: that we don't need somebody who's not prol Israel. And
Speaker 1: that's just one example, but every single topic that Trump
Speaker 1: has where he was clearly made it a point to
Speaker 1: say what he's for, who says the opposite and says this,
Speaker 1: and literally he's talking about a vote for Hillary is
Speaker 1: a vote for you know, a vote for Trump is
Speaker 1: a vote for Hillary. Listen, I I listen. Here's the
Speaker 1: here's the irony of this. I could let I could
Speaker 1: tell you, and I know that this is my job,
Speaker 1: so understand I'm not saying this from from any conceded point.
Speaker 1: I've interviewed these guys so much. I can tell you
Speaker 1: their positions on everything. I can tell you almost on
Speaker 1: every issue except for the new issues that have come up.
Speaker 1: I know the answers to every question before I even
Speaker 1: ask it. But I'm not doing the show for me.
Speaker 1: I'm doing the show for my audience, and I understand
Speaker 1: exactly the frustration. Let me give you an example. If
Speaker 1: I have, like, for example, tonight, Donald Trump will be
Speaker 1: given a speech, will probably carry some of that speech
Speaker 1: on Hannity TENNY ten pm Eastern tonight Friday night, We're
Speaker 1: going to do a town hall in Indianapolis. All the
Speaker 1: information is on Hannity dot com with Senator Cruz and
Speaker 1: with Carly Fiorina together uh info at Hannity dot com. Now,
Speaker 1: in both cases, I can promise you if I interview Trump,
Speaker 1: Cruise people get mad. If I interview Cruise, Trump, people
Speaker 1: get mad. You understand that the limit that I'm in here,
Speaker 1: and I don't mind it. I don't mind the criticism.
Speaker 1: I accept it for what it is. Then you get
Speaker 1: people on the left saying that I'm too easy on Republicans,
Speaker 1: and to that I'm probably gonna lead guilty. And do
Speaker 1: you want to know why? Because because I agree with
Speaker 1: them a lot more and I am going to be
Speaker 1: as hard if not harder, on Hillary Clinton than I
Speaker 1: ever was on Obama because their philosophy is dangerous and
Speaker 1: it's literally driven this country into the ground. So I'm
Speaker 1: not a journalist. I'm a talk show host that has opinions,
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, I am going
Speaker 1: to support the person on the Republican ticket because that
Speaker 1: most likely is in view with my view any one
Speaker 1: of the seventeen I could have supported. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: So does the When you say if the establishment doesn't
Speaker 1: give it to either Trump or Cruz, you're saying that
Speaker 1: a lot, and I really think that it's a headstare.
Speaker 1: And what I think is that whoever gets the most
Speaker 1: delegates and the most votes is really who should be
Speaker 1: the nominee. That's what the that's what the that's what
Speaker 1: the votes. That's what the exit polls are saying that
Speaker 1: people want. But hanging there, I I understand. Look, it's
Speaker 1: it's a very tense time. People are wired pretty tight
Speaker 1: right now, and some people are frankly unhinged. Part of
Speaker 1: my effort and motivation here is to defeat Hillary, and
Speaker 1: part of effort of motivation here is to unite people.
Speaker 1: I understand fully and completely the emotional disappointment that people
Speaker 1: feel when their candidate loses. But you have to you know,
Speaker 1: we all have disappointments in life, and you've got to
Speaker 1: ask yourself a question, whether it's Donald Trump, who has
Speaker 1: a much easier path than Ted Cruizer, John Kasi, or
Speaker 1: whoever it might be, if they are running against Hillary.
Speaker 1: I will make a list and I will publish it
Speaker 1: and I will put it on my website where they
Speaker 1: stand versus Hillary on substantive, real issues. And then it's
Speaker 1: our responsibility, just like I've been hammering Republicans now for
Speaker 1: years for being weak and and effective in Washington, and
Speaker 1: it's our responsibility to hold the person if they get
Speaker 1: elected accountable. Anyway, appreciate your time. Thank you. Mary Beth
Speaker 1: is in Arkansas. Next on the Sean Hannity Show, Mary Beth,
Speaker 1: how are you glad you called? I'm great, and I
Speaker 1: think you do a great job. I listen on the
Speaker 1: radio and what sh at night, and I just think
Speaker 1: to do a great job. But the reason I'm calling
Speaker 1: is I'm the leaves. The people of the United States
Speaker 1: of America have found their white Night in Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: And everybody keeps trying to push this down and say no, no, no,
Speaker 1: And you know, worked, I'm excited. I'm happy, and and
Speaker 1: you know, I just think it's time that everybody else
Speaker 1: realizes that, you know, the United States of America already
Speaker 1: to find somebody that's working for them and and you know,
Speaker 1: ready to help the vets, ready to help the American people,
Speaker 1: ready to help the elderly. You know, I'm excited, Listen,
Speaker 1: I am. I'd be excited if I'd be a little
Speaker 1: more comfortable if I knew that this election was in
Speaker 1: the bag. It's not. This election is not going to
Speaker 1: be in the bag. Anybody that ever tells you it
Speaker 1: is is going to be lying to you. I think
Speaker 1: that this country is very divided philosophically, and I have
Speaker 1: a great fear that the country has moved from center
Speaker 1: right to center left. We'll know a lot in this
Speaker 1: election if the damn edge that has been caused by
Speaker 1: Obama does not motivate an alliance between conservatives and Republicans
Speaker 1: to fix the country's problem with a stiff spine and
Speaker 1: a strong vision, I don't know what will we get
Speaker 1: to the point where irreparable damage is done and where
Speaker 1: Europe and We're in decline and we can't stop it,
Speaker 1: and financially it becomes mathematically impossible to fix it. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got another g d P report showing again the
Speaker 1: Obama economy teetering on the brink of a recession. You
Speaker 1: have the first time in our nation's history that you
Speaker 1: have a president that has never ever come close to
Speaker 1: three growth. I mean, somebody that standing up there and
Speaker 1: saying I Am going to make American grade. Yet it's inspiring,
Speaker 1: you know, But but remember you had a guy last
Speaker 1: time I was saying hope and change and change and hope.
Speaker 1: I believe me. I'm not comparing the two. All I
Speaker 1: am saying is is this, this is why a circular
Speaker 1: firing squad is going to be death to the country.
Speaker 1: It's really a time for people that maybe we all
Speaker 1: agree seventy of the time. But we agree on the
Speaker 1: big issues about border security, on repealing replacing Obamacare, on
Speaker 1: conservative justices. We all agree on on living within our
Speaker 1: means and stop burdening future generations with dead We all
Speaker 1: agree that states should run education and common Core needs
Speaker 1: to go. I mean, you know, every one of the
Speaker 1: candidates support that agenda, every one of them. I know
Speaker 1: them because I've interviewed them all, and I understand. It's
Speaker 1: like this last caller is saying, all of these people
Speaker 1: that come that tell me, I, look, I interview the candidates.
Speaker 1: They want to ship, they want to portray their opponents
Speaker 1: in the worst possible light and never look to any
Speaker 1: areas of reconciliation. That's fine, that's really fine during a
Speaker 1: campaign or a primary. But if you don't unite in
Speaker 1: the general, you're gonna get an Obama third term. That
Speaker 1: is where everybody's head should be. Nicole is in Stockton
Speaker 1: out in California. Hey, Nicole, how are you? And we're
Speaker 1: glad you're called. By the way, Obama is the first
Speaker 1: president ever not to see a single year of three
Speaker 1: percent GDP growth. Anyway, Nicole, how are you? Hello? I'm great, great,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be on. Thank you. What's on your
Speaker 1: mind today? Um? I am listening in and I just
Speaker 1: want cold hard facts. I support Cruise because he has
Speaker 1: not only say that he can change, he has done
Speaker 1: change already. I see that that Trump who's having this
Speaker 1: great hopeful speech. It's helping us all out because yes,
Speaker 1: we are all so angry. But what has he done
Speaker 1: in his path? I want I don't want to listen
Speaker 1: to what he's saying anymore. I want to see what
Speaker 1: he has done. And I have not found anything that
Speaker 1: has made me feel like what he is saying is
Speaker 1: the cold hard truth. Well what do you mean by doun?
Speaker 1: You mean accomplishments, specific accomplishments. Yes, let me let me
Speaker 1: give you one. Look. I'm somebody. I'm somebody in my life. UM,
Speaker 1: I never talked about I actually have. I'm an entrepreneur.
Speaker 1: I have businesses. I don't talk about them on the air.
Speaker 1: I love business. I know it may sound crazy, but
Speaker 1: that's what I do in my spare time. Um. If
Speaker 1: if you know how hard it is to start and
Speaker 1: run a business, even a small business, let's say a
Speaker 1: mom and pop shop that takes in two d and
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars a year, and by the time they
Speaker 1: play their light bill in their their rent or their mortgage,
Speaker 1: UH and a couple of employees that they take home
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars. That's still an an enterprise that
Speaker 1: is incredibly viable for UH and necessary for our economy. Now,
Speaker 1: magnify that. If you happen to be a millionaire, then
Speaker 1: magnify that yet again, if you happen to be, like
Speaker 1: in Trump's case, a billionaire. You know, it's funny. I was.
Speaker 1: I've been a Trump Tower a number of times. You
Speaker 1: go to Trump Tower, I don't know you're a cruise supporter,
Speaker 1: but it's a beautiful building. You look at the accomplishment
Speaker 1: of building that building, and then then all the people
Speaker 1: that have to construct the building, all the people that
Speaker 1: maintain the building, all the shops that are within the building,
Speaker 1: all the services that are provided to residents and businesses
Speaker 1: in the building. I mean, it's it's a never ending
Speaker 1: circle of economic activity. You know. Then you could add
Speaker 1: the golf courses to it, and all the people that
Speaker 1: worked there, and from the people that cut the lawn
Speaker 1: and clean the bathrooms to the waiters and waitresses in
Speaker 1: the in the restaurants, to the guys that parked the cars,
Speaker 1: to you know, the starters at a golf course. I mean,
Speaker 1: these are people that are employed because entrepreneurs have taken
Speaker 1: risk and invested money. So if you're asking me what
Speaker 1: an accomplishment is, well that's one. He also has the
Speaker 1: story about woman rink in Central Park. The city of
Speaker 1: New York spent thirteen million dollars. Trump said, I'm sick
Speaker 1: and tired of looking at this thing busted and broken
Speaker 1: and not fixed. Let me take it over. I'll do it.
Speaker 1: I'll do it with my own money. He got it
Speaker 1: done in six months under budget. He went to Canadians
Speaker 1: who know how to build ice rinks. They built the
Speaker 1: ice rink and it's been beautiful ever since. It's you know,
Speaker 1: I like the idea, and I'm not I'm not. You know,
Speaker 1: I would also argue, I can argue the things that
Speaker 1: Ted Cruiz has done. Ted Cruz is reminded every Conservative,
Speaker 1: every Republican of the promises that they made when they
Speaker 1: ran for office. That is a big deal that he
Speaker 1: stood there alone and was willing to fight that to me.
Speaker 1: You know, he was also the attorney general. He also
Speaker 1: was the National debate champion this. You know, he's a constitutionalist,
Speaker 1: He's strong and smart. I can make a case for
Speaker 1: anybody to call over Hillary Clinton. It's not that hard.
Speaker 1: And that's where But the problem is there's so much
Speaker 1: antipathy right now that I don't see people united enough
Speaker 1: to effectively, uh succeed in the mission of seeing the
Speaker 1: big picture of uniting to win. Does that make sense? Yes,
Speaker 1: it makes complete sense. And I love the idea of uniting.
Speaker 1: Although with Trump, I feel like he's more dividing and
Speaker 1: that scares me. It brings a searr up in my belly.
Speaker 1: It just scares me. I feel like he's dividing and
Speaker 1: we need uniting and we need to get back down
Speaker 1: to basics. And with him with making deals and all this,
Speaker 1: it just scares me. It scares me. I feel like
Speaker 1: there's something there he's not explaining in depth. He doesn't
Speaker 1: want to debate. Cruise, Why why do you not want
Speaker 1: a debate? Cruise, Well, they debated I think fifteen times already.
Speaker 1: But I understand what you're saying. You want to want
Speaker 1: on one debate, all right, Listen, I my advice to
Speaker 1: you is keep fighting. I mean, one of the things
Speaker 1: that You've you've got to say, give any candidate wars.
Speaker 1: They're in there, they're fighting, they're playing hard, and you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I want the person
Speaker 1: that wins the presidency to be willing to fight for
Speaker 1: the country and fight for our principles, and fight to
Speaker 1: make this a better place, and fight to get Americans
Speaker 1: back to work, and fight to keep America strong, and
Speaker 1: fight to keep our enemies at bay. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: looking for.