1 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Chris Harry with you on the Chargers Training 2 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: Camp podcast, A Big Show. Today, I catch up with 3 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: NFL Networks Daniel Jeremiah and Cynthia Freeland to get their 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: reactions from day three of Chargers Camp. I also talked 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: to linebacker Kyle Emanuel after the team's first padded practice, 6 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: but first I sat down with the general manager of 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers, Tom Tolesco. All right, it's my 8 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: pleasure to welcome general manager Tom Tolesco to the Chargers 9 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: Training Camp Podcast. Tom, how you doing. I'm doing well, 10 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. Beautiful day. Huh oh, this is beautiful. The 11 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: first day at Pats too, so it's exciting for us. 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know fans are champing at the bit 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: and Tom, it's been a transition for you guys this offseason. 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: But over the past two days, you have to be 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: pleased with what you've seen from these fans and they 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 1: even braced this football team. It's been great. The atmosphere 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 1: has been tremendous, I know for us as a football team. 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: When there's people out here watching and engaged, our players 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: play to that tempo, oh yeah, and it picks up 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: the practice tempo and it's it's hard to duplicate game 21 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: conditions on the practice field. But when we have people, 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, three thousand people in the stands and people 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: watching and people cheering, that gets these guys going, oh, 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: no doubt, it's like five thousand people there on Sunday. Yeah, 25 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: and you have standing room only. It was it was 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: an incredible scene on Sunday. I know everyone's excited about 27 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: pads today, but Tom, I was coming in today and 28 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: I know that. You know, we have this twenty four 29 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: hour news cycle in sports. Yet I turn on the 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: radio on the way here to Coasta, Mesa and people 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: are still talking about Kobe Bryant visiting you guys on Saturday. 32 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: What was that experience? Like? I know the players have 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: raved about it, but but for you to have a 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: five time champion in LA come to talk to you 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: guys on day will and what was that like for you? 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: I was really a once in a lifetime experience for 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: all of us to have him and come talk to us. 38 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: And you know, for coaches, head coach myself, a lot 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: of us have talked to the team. They hear of 40 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: voices a lot, but they bring in somebody with a 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: different voice and then having to be Kobe Bryant, who's, 42 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, maybe the best he's ever played the game 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: and at a professional level. That resonates with our players. 44 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: And he came in with and he talked about everything, 45 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: and he talked about everything from how to deal with 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: the media. He talked about how he practices. He talks 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: about how he played in games. He talked about how 48 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: to be a leader and be a great teammate. He 49 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: talked about life after you're done playing, when you're retired, 50 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: about transitioning into you know, the quote unquote real world 51 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: after playing sports. Talked about dealing with your family and 52 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: your kids. I mean, he had all these different things 53 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: and it was just a great talk. He was raw, 54 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: he was real with us and with the players, and uh, 55 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean that's one of those the first day at 56 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: training camp meeting is it's boring by nature. It's all 57 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: administrative and a a lot of stuff we have to get 58 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: out of the way. That's one I don't think anybody's 59 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: ever going to forget. That quickly turned into a tone 60 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: setter for the twenty seventeen season. It did, it did 61 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: You can you can see why he was such an 62 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: out ending player because he had the physical ability, but 63 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: he had that mental side of it, and he talked 64 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: about the psychological end and how much learning he did 65 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: from different people in different industries, not just basketball or 66 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: other professional sports. But it was really unique to hear 67 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: him talk. And he was in the back of the room, 68 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: right and no one had any idea that he was 69 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: back there when Josh and Nelson. Yeah, so that very 70 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: few of us knew, you know, you know, obviously Anthony 71 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: knew him myself doing a couple other people and that 72 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: was it, and we held him in the back and 73 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: then Josh brought him up and introduced him. So that 74 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: was a pretty neat moment for everybody. Yeah, guys are 75 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: still buzzing about it right now. I wouldn't get to 76 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: the field. And starting with this rookie class, we know 77 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: Mike's not practicing right now. Do you have an update 78 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: on him and how he's progressing. No update from the 79 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: first day at camp, So he's gonna stay and there 80 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 1: really won't be an update really probably throughout training camp. 81 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: He's gonna be on the same schedule. You know, backs 82 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: take time. Unfortunately, it takes long with than a hamstring 83 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: or near or shoulder, so he'll be really on the 84 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: same schedule as far as rehabbing and strengthening, doing some 85 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: conditioning work every day, and that's really what he'll do 86 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: the next two or three weeks. Will kind of go 87 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: from there. You know, he wants to get on the field. 88 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: But at the same time, the silver lining I think 89 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: for this football team is when Keenan went out last year, 90 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: you had guys like Don arl m and Tyroll Williams 91 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: go for a thousand yards last year and step up 92 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: into roles they may not have been in in twenty sixteen. 93 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: How much is that going to help those guys in 94 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: year two? And then really having that wide receiver's room 95 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: with Keenan in it to help Mike along the way, well, 96 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: we do have a lot of depth there, so that's 97 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: a positive between Keenan Allen. Like I said, Tyro Williams 98 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: had a thousand yards last year, Don chel Iman had 99 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: a ton of catches for us last year, Travis Benjamin 100 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: did as well, and Travis had a big time production 101 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: at Cleveland as well. So we've got four guys that 102 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: are experienced at running routes, catching the football that can 103 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: produce for us. We have some young guys too, we 104 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: think of them might have a chance. So there is 105 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: depth there to hold too that we can and really, 106 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: whether we have depth or didn't, that really hasn't changed. 107 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: Mike's protocol as far as is we have that kind 108 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: of stays the same and when he's ready to go, 109 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: we'll get him back out there. But like I said, 110 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna take some time. And of course you have 111 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: the future Hall of Famer Antonio Gates on this football 112 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: m Hunter. Henry took a big step eight touchdowns and 113 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: limited snaps his rookie year. What do you think he's 114 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: going to be able to do in year two? I 115 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: talked to him yesterday and he said he's worked on 116 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: a lot this offseason and the game's gotten slower for him. Yeah, 117 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: a lot of times. The biggest jump these guys make 118 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: is from your rookie season to your second year. And 119 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: he had a great year force last year. He's really 120 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: wise behind his years. I mean he's still a young guy, 121 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: but he has a great feel for the game now 122 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: in the passing game but blocking the line of scrimmage. 123 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: And I think he'll build build on this year. Obviously, 124 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: having Philip throwing to you can create a lot of 125 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: opportunities in the passing game. But I've been really pleased 126 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: with Pal Hunter has really turned into a pro at 127 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: really such a young age. This offensive line, it's a 128 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: new LOOKO line. Russell Comb comes in, you get him 129 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: away from a division rival, which is nice, and we 130 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: all know about his productivity throughout his career in the NFL. 131 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: Then you get these young guys in the drafts and 132 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: Forrest lamp who many regarded as a first round pick 133 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: in the second round. And then Dan Feeney, a guy 134 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: who blocked for Tevin Coleman and Jordan Howard did Indiana. 135 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: What do you want to see out of this new 136 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: look O line in training camp, especially with Pat's coming on. Yeah, 137 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: and that may be the group that's gonna benefit the 138 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: most from this this training camp, because we gotta first 139 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: of all come up with the five that we're gonna 140 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: go with number one and number two. They have to 141 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: start playing together. It's it's it's not an individual group. 142 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: I mean, they have individual talents, but they have to 143 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: play together. They have to be able to get comforted 144 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: with each other. How they communicate with each other. We'll 145 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: do that here in training camp. So this is really 146 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: an important time for those guys, and not only not 147 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: only the young guys, but even it got like Matts Slawson, 148 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: Matt played guard for a long time this league. Um 149 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: played a little bit of center at the end in Chicago. 150 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: We brought him in and thought he could help us 151 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: out as center last year because we had a need. 152 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: He stepped in and played great for us a center. 153 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: But now he's moving back to guard. So that's another 154 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of transition, not as big, but yeah, 155 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of changes up front that we 156 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: have to get worked out this whole training camp, in 157 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: the preseason games. Yeah, this is the time to do 158 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: it though, when you know, taking a deeper dive into 159 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: the draft. I talked to Matt Bowen of ESPN after 160 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: the draft and he raved about a couple of guys 161 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: that you got late in Rachel and Jenkins from Miami 162 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: to safety and Desmond King who had fourteen interceptions at Iowa, 163 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: and how they're a good fit for what Gus Bradley 164 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: likes to do. What do you want to see out 165 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: of those guys in camp and can they contribute right 166 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: away in twenty seventeen. Well, I think Bowen's from Iowa. 167 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: He's an Iowa guy. Yeah, that's not fair, that's kind 168 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: of biased. But but his in his defense, he did 169 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: mention Rachel and Jenks that same positive. Yeah, yeah, we'll 170 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: tell you both both players and obviously no tas you're 171 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: you're not in full go, you're not in pads yet. 172 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: But both those guys mentally have shown that that it 173 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: may not be too big for him the first year, 174 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: which is great to seek. So we'd like to see 175 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: them see if they can contribute this year. Ray Sean 176 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: has a nice balanced game between being able to come 177 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: up to the line of scrimmage and tackle people and 178 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: to get out and cover tight ends and getting the 179 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: slot and cover some people. He's got really good movement 180 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: skills for a bigger safety. And and Desmond really just 181 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: proved or showed at the college level his versatility as 182 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: far as played different positions, as far as a punt 183 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: and kickoff returner. He's really a natural football player. And 184 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna use this camp a lot for 185 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: him to figure out where the best spot is for 186 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: him and where he can help us. It could be 187 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: a number of different areas and it may even evolved 188 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: as his career goes on, but he has some really 189 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: natural football instincts. Yeah, it's gonna be fun to see 190 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: a lot of these young guys develop and progress throughout camp. 191 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: I want to shift to Anthony Lynn. I've talked to 192 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people here at camp, from players to 193 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: two people from around the league, and he is he 194 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: is such a so highly regarded around the league as 195 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: an assistant. How has it been watching him progress as 196 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: a head coach with the Chargers. Well, it's been a 197 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: short time, so it's hard to say progress, but but 198 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: what we've seen is yeah, Yeah, he's been really great 199 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: to work with. I think right away he commands respect 200 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: from his players and he's gonna be tough on them, 201 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: but extremely fair. And I'm a big believer that you're 202 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: we're all a product of our environment, a product of 203 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: who we've learned for learned from excuse me, and you know, 204 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: he learned from Bill Walsh, he learned from Bill Parcels, 205 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: he learned from Mike Shanahan. So three pretty big time 206 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: coaches and in all a little bit different in their 207 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: own right. And he took a little bit from all 208 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: those guys. And but then he's also himself as far 209 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: as what he stands for. So um, it's been great. 210 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean nothing has phased him. Anytime you come into 211 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: a first time head coaching job or first time GM job. 212 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: When I came in a couple of years ago, there 213 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: are some things that happened that you maybe didn't anticipate. 214 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: It happens daily usually, Yeah, and he had nothing's faced him. Um, 215 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: he can look things straight on, you know, make make 216 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: good calculate decisions on things. And I think he's getting 217 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: nothing that better as we move forward. Pads are coming 218 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: on today and moving forward in camp. As a GM, 219 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: it's one thing to evaluate guys and T shirts and 220 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: shorts at OTAs. What's your process in evaluating these players 221 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: with the pads on the training camp. Well, this is 222 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: the the finally, the time where guys are really competing 223 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: with each other for jobs, competing for roles on the 224 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: football team. You know, it's real practice. Now there's always 225 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: a conveat that. Well, you know it's not a game 226 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: conditions yet. You know, we'll get to that point. But 227 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: this is where you really develop your mentality offensively and 228 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: defensively do on the practice field. And there's no more 229 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: two a days, so it's only one a day, so 230 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: you got to get your work in right now. But 231 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: this is this is where it it's real. You know. 232 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: The OTAs is great, but after a while it gets 233 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: a little bit you know, hey, look, let's move on 234 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: to the next shot. And it's time for that right now. 235 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: And I think the guys get excited about it. And 236 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: like I said before, when you do it in front 237 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: of fans, it's just a different tempo. If we're back 238 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: at our facility during the regular season and it's a 239 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: padded practice and there's nobody else around, it's a little 240 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: bit different. It's hard to get those juices flowing. But 241 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: it's a lot easier out here to perform in front 242 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: of people. Yeah, like we said, fans are excited for today. 243 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: I want to get you out of here on this time. 244 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: Obviously a big week for the organization. LT's being enshrined 245 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: into Pro Football Hall of Fame. It's almost impossible to 246 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: put it into words. But what do you think LT 247 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: means to this organization if you could put it into words, Boy, 248 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: that's that's hard one for me, especially since I wasn't 249 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: here when he was playing. Sure, I've had a chance 250 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: to get to know him since I've been with the 251 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: organization and it's no secret why he's going in the 252 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And again, it's not just about the 253 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: talent the players have. Like I said, with Kobe Bryant, 254 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: his determination, his mental ability, and how he carries himself. 255 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: It's just incredible to be around. And he's talked to 256 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: our players a couple of times after our team after practice, 257 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: and his messages are are awesome. Um, he just has 258 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: that natural leadership ability. He's been a great person be around. 259 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm so excited that he that he wanted to come 260 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: back and be part of the organization moving forward. That 261 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: means a lot to us that he wants to be 262 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: a part of this uh moving forward. So um, but 263 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm just really really happy for him. I mean this 264 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: this week. I've only been to the induction once. It 265 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: was a pretty amazing event. You know, the mount Up 266 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: Hall of Famers that are there, and they're everywhere. Now 267 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: you're walking down the aisle and there's you know, Hall 268 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: of Famer here, Hall of Famer there, built track. It 269 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: is all these players that that you know I watched 270 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: growing up or even heard about and maybe didn't see played. 271 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: You know, if they're older and there he is sitting 272 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: right there. Hey, there's Dick bud Kiss sitting right there. 273 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: You know. It's just a man. There's Lawrence Taylor over here. 274 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: It's just amazing. M So it's it's great that he's 275 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: get a chance to experience and all that. Yeah, we're 276 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: gonna check that out on Saturday. He's Tom to LESCo. Tom, 277 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for your time today anytime. 278 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Take care all right. Please to 279 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: welcome Daniel Jeremiah to the Chargers Training Camp podcasts. Follow 280 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: him on Twitter at Move the Sticks, and be sure 281 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: to subscribe to the Move the Sticks podcast with Daniel 282 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, one of the best football podcasts out there. Daniel, 283 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: how you doing, buddy? I'm doing great, man. It's a 284 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: beautiful day out here today. I know you're here all day? Huh. Yeah, 285 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: it's a full day. Get here about seven thirty in 286 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: the morning. I think I'm we're wrapping up around six 287 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: o'clock tonight. So yeah, network, we spent a whole day 288 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: at Charger Camp, a nice ten to eleven hour day. 289 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: Day three in pads. Would you see out there? Tell 290 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: you what? It's a good looking group. I mean The 291 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: thing that jumps out to me is really with his 292 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: football team. I think it's gonna be built around that 293 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: defensive front. With Gus Bradley in here running the show, 294 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: I think they've got a chance to really really be 295 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: a dominant group. And you you look at Joey Bosa 296 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: for a full sixteen game, so you look at Melvin 297 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: Ingram what he can bring to the table opposite of him. 298 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: But I think the two interior guys are underrated. Brandon 299 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: Mebane who can push the pocket, Corey Leegiate, who can 300 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: rush out of that three technique and really be disruptive. 301 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: So I think that's as good a group as we have. 302 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: Rivers with sharp out here today, Tyroll Williams had had 303 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: a nice day. I know a lot of talk about 304 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: no Mike Williams, but man, I think Tyroll Williams, coming 305 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: off a good year last year, the best is is 306 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: still yet to come. We've talked about this all week. 307 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: With Keenan Allen coming back, Tyroll Williams was kind of 308 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: thrust in that role in twenty sixteen. Goes goes over 309 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: a thousand and yuards seven touchdowns. That's gonna do nothing 310 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: but help in twenty seventeen, especially if Mike Williams isn't 311 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: going to be ready at Ralph the bat. Yeah, look, 312 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: you've got Keenan Allen, you know, getting back into the mix. 313 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: And now, man, you've got a good group. I know 314 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: Mike Williams, I trust me. I know how good he 315 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 1: is watching him and studying him last year. But when 316 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: you have a Travis Benjamin who can stretch the field, 317 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: Edmond's not a bad player. And now you've got Tyroll 318 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: Williams and a healthy Keenan Allen. Not to mention two 319 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: tight ends, because you've got Antonio Gates and I think 320 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: one of the best young tight ends in the league 321 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: right now, and Hunter Henry so Philip Rivers no shortage 322 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: of weapons. I think this offense, though, is gonna go 323 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: as far as this offensive line can take him. Yeah, 324 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: you get a couple of rookies out here today. I 325 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: thought Dan Feeney had a great day. I thought Forest 326 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: Lamp a little bit up and down and some of 327 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: the one on one stuff, But he's gonna be fine. 328 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: And those two guys getting on the field earlier this 329 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: year and playing well will be key. You look at 330 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: the Chargers draft and I think a lot of people 331 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: were shocked at Forrest lamp fell into the second round, 332 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: and obviously the Chargers scooped him up. Dan Feeney he 333 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: blocked for Tevin Coleman, Jordan Howard Indiana. What do you 334 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: make of their draft? I know, you know this is 335 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: the first Dan pads, but you did some good things 336 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: with the offensive line and then in the later rounds. 337 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: I talked to Tom tell Usco about this today with 338 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: Desmond King and Jenkins. What do you make of their 339 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: draft and what these guys can do in terms of 340 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: competing in twenty seventeen. Well, I think you got some 341 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: guys in the back end. A couple of those guys, 342 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: ray Sean Jenkins, to me, he's a hit or you're 343 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: gonna use him in that cam, chance to roll in 344 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: this defense, gonna be a physical enforcer. He's a hulking safety. 345 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: And then you get Desmond King out there, who's gonna 346 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: give you a chance to play a couple of different spots. 347 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: You can play him as the high safety, and you 348 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: can drop him down and make him a little bit 349 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: bigger nickel down there in the slot. And look, they're 350 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: not giving up on him being able to play outside 351 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: at corner. So you've got a versatile piece there's it's 352 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: gonna be fun to watch these guys grow. I saw 353 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: you talking to Gus earlier. How does the personnel fit 354 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: his scheme? I think it fits beautifully. Yeah. I mean 355 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: when you look at, you know, some of the different roles, 356 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: and you see a Bruce Irvan, how he had that 357 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: role in Seattle when Gus was there. Now you take 358 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: him over in Ingram who has a skin similar skill 359 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: sets a bit just a better football player. He's gonna 360 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: plug in and be fine. You look at Joey Bosa, 361 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: he can beat kind of that heavier five technique if 362 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: you want him, or you can just cut him free 363 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: and let him rush inside. So to me, you look 364 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: at Michael Bennett and the success he's had rushing off 365 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: the edge early on and downs and then being able 366 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: to kick inside and beat up on guards. I think 367 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: you can see Joey Bosa do a lot of those 368 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: same things. If not him, you've got Corey Legit who 369 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: can rush from that three. So I think this personnel 370 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: fits well. And even the linebacker position, you've got a 371 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: downhill thumper, impairman. And then you got Ja Tabus who's 372 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: just gonna be running all over the place, cleaning everything up. 373 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: I look at this offense and I think sometimes we 374 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: underrate the greatness of Philip Rivers, right. He had a 375 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: he had a year where a lot of you they're 376 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: stinking by injuries last year with that Woodhead going out 377 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: early and Keenan Allen, what do you look for this 378 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: year with Philip Well, I mean, I think being a 379 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: little bit more patient. I mean that's kind of their 380 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: turnover to something that people will talk about. The interceptions 381 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: last year. Do a great job of protecting him. The 382 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: running game needs to get better. But I just even 383 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: think from his standpoint, I mean, he's he's he's so 384 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: aggressive and I love that about him. But being able 385 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: to just kind of maybe dial it in a little 386 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: bit here and there and protect the football, be able 387 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: to take the check down. I think you hit it 388 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: on the head there with Danny Woodhead not being out there, 389 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, those guys can uncover underneath, give me some quick, 390 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: easy completions. They didn't have as many of those last year. 391 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: So he was vertical. Everything was vertical down the field. 392 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: So finding the way you get some of those layups 393 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: back in this offense will be big for him. He 394 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: gave Gordon out of backfield question, get Gordon that look? 395 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: Brandon Oliver did a nice shot running around. Yeah, so 396 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: if everybody forgets about him, get you out here on this. Yeah, 397 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: the Chargers in twenty seventeen, what do you think the 398 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: ceiling is for them? I think they can win this division. 399 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: You gotta stay healthy, you gotta get good play out 400 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: of this offensive line. But I think their defense is 401 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: going to keep him in each and every game and 402 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a shot to get this thing done. 403 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: Did you get to go to work man? All right? Thanks, 404 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: buddy tire? All right? Please be joined by Cynthia Freeland 405 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: from NFL Network on the Chargers Training kept podcast. She's 406 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: a must follow on Twitter at Sea Freeland. Cynthia, thanks 407 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: for joining me. Hey, Dwin, I'm doing great. It's always 408 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: nice to be with fellow Northwesterner mapping happily. I'm until 409 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: you're Kellogg right, Yes, but it's still still purple purple 410 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: exact Chicago. Well, day three in coast to Mesa. What 411 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: did you think out there? You know, I'm actually really impressed. 412 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: First day in pads. The energy level was so high 413 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: for the entire practice, everyone was just ready to go. 414 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: I the energy, I just can't get over it. It's 415 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: it's hard to kind of describe. Yeah, the first day here, 416 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: you were here, the first day, five thousand fans were 417 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: out here. Insane, pretty wild, in pretty wild. So these 418 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: guys were really well received on their first day in 419 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: Coast a Mesa. You look at this offense, Cynthia, I 420 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: love I love your game theory, do a great job 421 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: with that stuff. You look at this offense and how 422 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: loaded they are. Mike Williams is obviously not practicing right now, 423 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: but you still keenan ally coming back Hunter, Henry, you're 424 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: stacked there. What do you see when you look at 425 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: this office in twenty seventeen? Is it sad that the 426 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: thing I see happens to be at the guard position. 427 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: I like your second and third round draft picks. Yeah, 428 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: you some great draft picks. Forrest lamp Dan Feeney. Obviously 429 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: he's right now not listed first on the depth chart. However, 430 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna see him substitute in quite a bit. 431 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: I love that because it's gonna give Melvin Gordon an 432 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to go even more wild than last season. So 433 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: last season, he ranked in the twenties. In the twenties 434 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: in terms of yards per carry between the tackles, yards 435 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: per carry between the numbers. This season, I look for 436 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: that to go way up. Anthony Lynn, he knows how 437 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: to make running backs go la Sean McCoy average five 438 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: point four yards per carry, Mike Gillislee the backup five 439 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: point seven yards per cary. He paced the NFL last 440 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: season three point nine. I think for Melvin last year, 441 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: and that can go up. That's gonna go up. But listen, 442 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: he was fantastic last season. Ten touchdowns between the tackles. 443 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he was bad. I'm saying this is 444 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get even better by shoring up that 445 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: old line. You just you just build off a year two. 446 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: You know, his first year didn't have a touchdown, and 447 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: you go over double digit touchdowns. I think if this 448 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: line with Lamp and Feeney, those young guys, coupled with 449 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: Russell Kuhne coming over, is going to help the running 450 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: game and then the passing game. Even though Mike Williams 451 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: isn't out there. You mentioned it. They're stacked. They're stacked, 452 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: especially if Keenan Allen. You know, he's looking great. It 453 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: does I do not see. Obviously, I'm not a doctor, 454 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: so I can't. I'm not going to He looks amazing. 455 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: He looks like you know, I was expecting to see 456 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: a little bit more hesitation or anything. Nothing looks amazing. Yeah. 457 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: I think week one going out, I just remember that 458 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: first half that he had against the Chiefs and was 459 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: just like, Wow, this guy's dominating. It was why. I 460 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: guess Marcus Peters too, that's a pretty good corner. Yeah. 461 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: So I think that having that injury so early, you know, 462 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: obviously you benefit from from recovering through the twenty sixteen season, 463 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: and he should be ready to go. On the defensive 464 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: side of the football. Gus Bradley coming in, what do 465 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: you see with these book in rushing defensive ends with 466 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: Joey Bows and Melvin Ingram. So for me, I close 467 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: my eyes and I go, not Gus Bradley in Jacksonville. 468 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: I go Gus Bradley defensive Cord innersty Attle Seahawks. Multiple fronts. 469 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: Obviously we know that. To me, the comp here is 470 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: I think Joey Bosa is going to be more like 471 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: Michael Bennett. Now. Joey Bosa already proved his first round 472 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: draft status. He'd nothing left to prove. Ten and a 473 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: half sacks last season, he's amazing. But I went and 474 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: I looked at all of his snaps in nickel and 475 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: which will be more kind of what we see this season. 476 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: And seven of his ten and a half sacks happened 477 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: when they were in the nickel last season. So for me, 478 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: that projects to be really high. Melvin Ingram on the 479 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: Ingram on the other side awesome as well. He's got 480 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: a great comp of five or six year ago come 481 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: from Seattle Seahawks. I won't be too crazy with these comps, 482 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: but ultimately I think this gets even better. Gus Bradley 483 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: here is a great addition. You're gonna love it. One 484 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: of the other the other themes that we've talked about 485 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: is the secondary with Varette and Casey Hayward. Casey Hayward 486 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: looking great. Yeah, led the league in picks last year. 487 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: This is an elite tandem and I think it allows 488 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: Gusts to be very versatile in the secondary. Absolutely. I 489 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: think I think the pressure upfront also allows for the 490 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: secondary to be more diverse. Those two things go hand 491 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: in hand. You're going to see a great defense. I'm 492 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: really excited for the Chargers, and not just because I'm 493 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: here and it's like the best weather possible, but in 494 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: general than you could be than Coast of Masa right now. 495 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Coasta Masa's pretty awesome. If you 496 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: haven't come out, you should. So Chargers. All fans love 497 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: talk fantasy, especially this time of year. This Chargers team 498 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: is like a fantasy gold gold mine, right, And is 499 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: there another team? Really? Well? You look, I mean there's 500 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: so many weapons you got. You got Henry and Keenan 501 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: Allen and Melvin Gordon, Philip Rivers. I think Philip Rivers 502 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: is going to benefit from getting Keenan Allen back. You 503 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: literally have a another year with Hunter Henry, another year 504 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: with I mean, the year of growth for Hunter Henry 505 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: will be absolutely incredible too. You've got Antonio Gates, You've 506 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: got You've got a great those you know, obviously it 507 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: is intermediate and short kind of setups make those long 508 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: passes even more possible. So you're in You're in great shape. 509 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: This whole new NFL and LA thing. Now we have 510 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: two seams of the Rams. We have the Chargers, your 511 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: Culver City it's in your backyard. What do you look 512 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: to see out of the Chargers this year? Playing in 513 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: front of thirty thousand people, That stuff upset. It's gonna 514 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: be pretty electric atmosphere. I think I am more excited 515 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: to see the Chargers in a smaller stadium than almost 516 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: any other game that I'm potentially going to go to 517 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: this season. I think that stadium is going to be amazing. 518 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I think it's like trip worthy people 519 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: from across the country. If you're going to do it, 520 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: come this year, see it now before new stadiums are 521 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: built in a couple of years, because honestly, I think 522 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be unlike anything else, Like it's going to 523 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: be intimate and cool, and you're gonna feel every pass, 524 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna feel every hit. You're gonna actually probably able 525 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: to hear the pads, which is a very cool you know, 526 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: you hear you see the guy holding that like half 527 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: moon satellite thing and you can hear the pads from that. 528 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: It's even better when you hear it in person. Put 529 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: your analytics head on in this AFC West Ooh tricky. Oh, 530 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: it is a little tricky, is it? I think it's 531 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: the toughest division in football, and you know we know 532 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: what the Chiefs and the Raiders did that. Broncos are 533 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: a little down last year, still have that defense. How 534 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: do you see the charge fitting in here? This is 535 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: going to be the most I think this is gonna 536 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: be the tightest race of any division in all of 537 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: not just the AFC, but the NFC as well. I 538 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: think it's going to be. It really could be. Every 539 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: single game matters, every single half matters. I don't think 540 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: this one's going to be a runaway in any regard. 541 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: So for me, this reloaded offense, I'm gonna I really 542 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: like the O line that means a blot and I 543 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: really think this new Gus Bradley defense could put you 544 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: right atop the AFC West, if not sliding into playoff 545 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: position wild cards possibility. But I know these guys are 546 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: really hungry to get to get that AFC West crown. 547 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: It is literally anyone's game. And your new color guy, 548 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: Matt money Smith, who's my one of my favorite co 549 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: workers of all of NFL networks as oh, he can 550 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: tell you inside and out, left and right up and 551 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: down that this is absolutely the team to pick. So 552 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: I'm going with my man Matt money Smith on this one. 553 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: We'll go with Money on that. When Cynthia thinks so 554 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: much your time, absolutely, thank you think here all right. 555 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: Day three is in the books here with Kyle Emmanuel. Kyle, 556 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: how was practice today? Man? With the pads on? It 557 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: was good? It was a good little bit rusty, Um, 558 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: I think, you know, from a defensive standpoint, altogether, we 559 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: were a little bit rusty. Individually. You feel it a 560 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: little bit more on your legs, you know, really being 561 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: in pads for the first time since you know, we 562 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: played Kansas City in January, so it's always gonna feel 563 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: a bit a little bit different. But you know, this 564 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: is this is how we play the game. You know, 565 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: we're playing pads and um, we got to start getting 566 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: used to this and getting our legs right and getting 567 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: ready for the season. These fans were excited to see 568 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: you guys finally in pats. How much do you guys 569 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: feed off that energy? I know the first day was 570 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: pretty unbelievable with five thousand fans here, having these guys 571 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: here and sharing you on I have to believe that 572 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: raises the intensity for you guys a little bit. Yeah, 573 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: it definitely makes a difference. You know, practice can get 574 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: can get old, especially in these dog days of camp, 575 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: and you have fans out here and you know they 576 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: want to see your best and we want to show 577 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: them our best, and it can energize you on the 578 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: days and you don't really have it. What did you 579 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: work on this offseason and the effort to get ready 580 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: for year three? For you? Well, for me, you know, 581 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: it's a different position, but it's it's still it's similar. 582 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, at least so far from 583 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: what I've seen, I'm gonna be dropping a coverage a 584 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: little bit more so. Uh. I actually dropped about eight pounds, um, 585 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: trying to get a little bit lighter, just to be 586 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: able to you know, move a little bit better, dropping 587 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: into coverage a little bit more. So. That was a 588 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: big emphasis for me after OTAs were over. Are you 589 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: getting comfortable with that, that new kind of wrinkle to 590 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: your game? Yeah? Yeah, I am. Um, It's like I said, 591 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: I did a little bit of it last year, but 592 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: I think last year was more on the line, set 593 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: in the edge, and now it's uh, it's it's a 594 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: little bit of everything. So um, getting used to it, 595 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 1: getting used to playing it in Gus's system, and I 596 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: like it so far and I think we can really, 597 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: you know, um, thrive in it. I ask all the 598 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: defenders this Gus SE's bringing a lot of positive energy. 599 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: Yet what kind of imprint has he made on this 600 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: defense already? Well, he's just really big into the mental 601 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: side of game, which it's such a huge part and 602 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: people don't realize that, and you don't talk about it enough. 603 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: How big you know. Obviously football is a physical game 604 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: and you have to be talented physically, but mentally, uh, 605 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, it could take a toll on you and 606 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: you have to be right mentally. And he understands that 607 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: and he gets that and he brings that to every 608 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: single meeting. He's a positive guy and um, you know, 609 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: he makes sure, you know, we emphasize certain things and 610 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: and uh, it's just been really fun working with him. 611 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: Heard a lot about him obviously before I got here, 612 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, being at him being a North Stay guy 613 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: and me as well. So, um, it's been fun working 614 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: with him. And it doesn't hurt going up against this 615 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: offense on a dailyite basis. What have you seen from 616 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: those guys? I know, day three, the first time you 617 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: guys are putting the pads on, but they have a 618 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: lot of weapons. Yeah, I mean all around. You know, 619 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: I obviously see the tight ends and you know, probably 620 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: the old line the most, but um, you know Phillips, 621 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: I know Phillip's got a ton of weapons out there 622 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: at receiver. Obviously Melvin what he did last year and 623 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: m you know, they're gonna make us better and we're 624 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 1: gonna try and do the same for us. We uh, 625 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, we did some good things last year and 626 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: obviously our offensive too, and I think I think both 627 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: sides of the ball can can honestly say they improved. 628 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: And now it's just time to go out there and 629 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: show it. Day four tomorrow. Kyle appreciate the time. Thank you, 630 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: pretty sure. All right, that's going to do it for 631 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: today's Chargers Training Camp podcast. The Big thanks to Tom Telesco, 632 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, Cynthia Freeland, and Kyle Emmanuel Will for joining me. 633 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: It looks to be another gorgeous day in Coasta Masa Wednesday. 634 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: We'd love to see out here, so be sure to 635 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: visit Chargers dot com to reserve your free bleacher seating passes, 636 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: and while you're there to check out exclusive training camp 637 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: content from the Chargers Digital team. Until next time, We'll 638 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: see you soon.