1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast podcast. 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 2: All right, here we. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Go spreading the corn ten seconds of maining, so he 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: just goes show under the basket, Under the basket, it's. 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: The truth for the wind. God make a miracle. I'm 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: just up the water. 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: Hit that one from the parking lot. 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: What's up the general nation? Welcome to the Big Bets 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: on Campus Podcast presented by Bett NNGM. This is the 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: College Basketball Conference Tournament Betting Preview, Part seven. I'm stucky 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: in joining me today is one of the members of 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: the Three Man Weave, Mattie Cox. We're gonna cover the 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: Big twelve, the ACC and the PAC twelve. Busy, busy day. 14 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful time of the year. Yesterday recording the 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: Sunday morning was awesome. They should just I want them 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: to play the Big South Tournament again. Just play the 17 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: back again for fun, over time, craziness everywhere, buzzer beaters, 18 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: it was pretty insane. Mattie's going on. 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 4: Brother living large, stuck, Big South, and yeah, throw a 20 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 4: sun in that mix too, like those just based on 21 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 4: the entertainment value they've given us the last few tournaments, 22 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 4: we need to elevate them to the main board next year. 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 4: I'm tired of seeing the six digits next to their 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 4: name on the rotation sheet, so motion to promote both 25 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: those conferences. 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: I think they've earned it. Not for the books agree, 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 3: but we'll say. 28 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been in an exciting weekend and there's only 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: more excitement to come. We are officially in the heart 30 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: of March. But let's get right into it. Let's start 31 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: off with the Pac twelve. Arizona is obviously the favorite 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: here as the one seed. They are minus one sixty. 33 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: As I always say, shop around, I'm just going based 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: off one book here. Odds are pretty limited as we're 35 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: doing this, but Arizona is a favorite round minus one sixty. 36 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: They're the top seed in this tournament will be played 37 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: in Vegas. Top four seeds get a buy into the 38 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: quarterfinals on Thursday. Eight through twelve seeds will play in 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: the first round on Wednesday, and then in order for 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: that one of those teams to cut down the nets, 41 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: they would have to win four games in four days, 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: with the championship being played on Saturday. As far as 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: housekeeping is concerned, because I'll go through this for every league, 44 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: especially when we get to the Big twelve lots of 45 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 2: injuries to note and monitor as far as the PAC 46 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: twelve is concerned. A team that's not a player, but 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: it's worth mentioning. Jose Perez for Arizona State left the 48 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: program yesterday or the day before, so they had an 49 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: impressive forty seven point outing against UCLA, So that's definitely 50 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: worth noting, especially as you're handicapping these first round matchups. 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: I'd also mentioned Colorado was making me look a little better. 52 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: I'd a Final four future on them, and they were. 53 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 4: I just looked at the odds this morning. Actually it's like, okay, 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 4: they can went away from the mountain top. I'm starting 55 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: to be a little bit titilated by this bunch, no question. 56 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I played the cour future and then I was like, 57 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: maybe I should have just played weighted and played them 58 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: to make the tournament. At four to one, I think 59 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: their favorites to make the tournament now. But they are hot. 60 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: They've won six straight. But they do have some injury concert. 61 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: Cody Williams potential first round draft pick, he's been out 62 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: with an ankle injury. Julian Hammond has been out. Da 63 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: Silva has just been playing at an incredible level and 64 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: obviously kJ Simpson one of the best point guards in 65 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: the league, and then you know Eddie Lampkin doing work 66 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: on the offensive glass. Inside. They are a dangerous team 67 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: that's dealt with a lot of injuries. They are the 68 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: three seed in the bottom half of the bracket. They 69 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: would have to take on the winner of a fading 70 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: Utah team and you know, bad Arizona State team without Perez, 71 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: and then presumably play Washington State. Washington State is you know, 72 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: I love Kyle Smith. They kind of faded down the 73 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: stretch a bit, and. 74 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Pete, I think they hit their plateau, right, yeah, 75 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: how much they. 76 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: Maybe hit a little bit of a wall. I think potentially, 77 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: But they lost to to four. They lost at home 78 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: to Washington. They also lost that Arizona State. They really 79 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: should have lost at home to USC too, so they 80 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: could have easily dropped three or four to close out 81 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: the year. They split with Colorado during the regular season 82 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: if that's the two to three matchup. But potentially, I mean, 83 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: you know, Washington State, maybe you know, Stanford could cause 84 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: them some trouble, just because Stanford has these games where 85 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: they go, yeah, berserk from three and they go like 86 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty seven from three, So that's something potentially 87 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: to keep an eye on. But Colorado plus five hundred, 88 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: I can't get there with their odds, mainly just because 89 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: I watched them twice against Arizona and they give up 90 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: ninety seven and ninety nine, and in the second time 91 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: it was at home in a dream situational spot like 92 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: the dream of dreams, Arizona coming off a triple overtime 93 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: game in Utah. So I can't get the five to 94 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: one Oregon. I just can't see them beating Arizona. They're 95 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: the four seed here. At ten to one, they would 96 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: take on the winner of UCLA Oregon State. Ucla I 97 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: can't get to just because of their offense. It is 98 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: way too anemic, crowded. 99 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: Just gives me like, I feel like that team's a corpse. 100 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 4: There's a few, there's a couple of corpses in this field. 101 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 4: I think that's one of them. But yeah, Oregon getting 102 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 4: double the value of Washington and Colorado intrigues me. Obviously 103 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: you have Arizona lingering there, but I don't know Oregon. 104 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: I've been banged up all year, but they Dana Almonds 105 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 4: got some turning mojo in them, that might be one 106 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 4: I might look at. 107 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in a tournament setting, with the way 108 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: that they he changes his defenses, They're a tough prep. 109 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: But you know, this is a conference tournament where teams 110 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: are fairly familiar. 111 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: With them, exactly right. 112 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: The team that intrigues me the most is USC at 113 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: fifty to one. So if you look over the past 114 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: four weeks on Torvik where we can filter to build 115 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: our narratives. But I just went back to the four weeks. 116 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: Just happened to be the day after they lost by 117 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: one hundred to Stanford when Stanford hit sixteen threes. But 118 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: they're the seventeenth ranked team in the country. Over the 119 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: past four weeks, they've gone five and two. They're two 120 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: losses double overtime to Colorado on the game they were 121 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: up the entire time, and then at Washington State in 122 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: the game they led the entire time. This is a 123 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: team that so if you using if they played the 124 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: same level they played over the past month, I'd have 125 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: their odds. Which is hard to say because you also 126 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: have to take the full body work. But they dealt 127 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: with a ton of injuries. You have to say that 128 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: they're not the you know, This is a team that 129 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: was picked second preseason. One of the best backcourts in 130 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: the country. Isaiah Kyllier is a dog. 131 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, lightbulbs on there. 132 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: Sure he is playing out of his mind. You have 133 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: Boogie Ellis, who can go off for thirty on any 134 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: given night. Then you have like you have a ton 135 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: of size. You have two potential like defensive player the 136 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: Year types like PAC twelve defensive player of the Year 137 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: types in Kobe Johnson and Joshua Morgan. I think Morgan 138 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: actually won Defensive Player of the Year. 139 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: Johnson had what nineteen six steals and four dimes against Arizona. 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 4: Just beat him, right, And that's who That's who you're 141 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 4: gonna catch in the second round if you if they 142 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 4: can advance. So I'll wait you. That's team I wrote 143 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 4: down to our us. He circled underline bolded the whole 144 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: nine yards. 145 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: Obviously the. 146 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: Player type two that can hit some hit threes and like, 147 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: so this team is a potential bid Steel. Now they 148 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: got to get by Washington Arizona, two teams that they 149 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: just beat. They beat Arizona, they beat they won at 150 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: Washington and they should have won at Washington State. They 151 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: could have easily beat Colorado, They've lost the double overtime. 152 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: This team's dangerous. Now Arizona's gonna be waiting for them. 153 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: They just beat Arizona. So it's like a tough spot 154 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: that because they won that game, they went from the 155 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: eleven to the nine. I think the eleven would have 156 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: been the much easier path. Yep. But like fifty to one, 157 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: with all that talent, I think they're worth a little flyer. 158 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that this way, right. 159 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 4: So if you get fifty to one, they get past Washington, 160 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: which I think we'd agree is a little bit more 161 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 4: dangerous of a threat than meets the eye. I mean, 162 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: playing better, a little healthier, But I mean I think 163 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 4: Hopkins is well, you know, the coach to be named 164 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 4: Danny Sprinkle here in a second, I think that team 165 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 4: is going. 166 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: To fold in just the way USC is playing. 167 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 4: I think they get past them, but they beat Arizona again, 168 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 4: I think we just saw. While it's a bad spot, 169 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 4: I think we at least convinced that on the same 170 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 4: court they looked, you know, they could hang. 171 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: They get that win, then. 172 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 4: You're just an absolute gold hedge opportunity, right because by 173 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 4: that point they'll be favored of the next two games, 174 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: you would think, like the way they're playing, the way 175 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: the odds makers will react to their pricing against Oregon 176 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: or UCLA and then in the final against Washing and say, Colorado, 177 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: I mean, there's a good chance you're getting a favorite 178 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 4: where you can hedge with a good dog in the 179 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 4: semis in the final. So yeah, kind of like looking 180 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 4: at it, like, Okay, fifty to one, is that a 181 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 4: good price that they beat Washington in Arizona, It's like, yeah, 182 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 4: I kind of think so they just beat Arizona and 183 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 4: Washington's basically like the walking wounded right now, So that yeah, 184 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 4: I think that's the best value bet on the board. 185 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 4: Colorado is probably my second pick, but I think USC 186 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 4: is the best play here. 187 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean maybe because Colorado is playing so well, 188 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: be like a pick if they get by, if they 189 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: get to the. 190 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 3: Right, but I don't think. 191 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd bex closed and they would not be a 192 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: major dog USC in the semi finals at all. 193 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: So and if you ProCheck that out, just a money 194 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: line rollover would be around, you know, take five to 195 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: one against Arizona, small favorite against Washington, pick pick pick great, Ye, 196 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: I think they would be a favorite over Oregon. 197 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: I think so too. 198 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: But that's around you know, forty fifty to one. 199 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: And that's fairly okay, right exactly exactly. 200 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's there's there's like you could have you know, 201 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: a team like Utah get there. You could have an 202 00:09:58,960 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: Oregon go down to you. 203 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: See la, I mean Oregon State winning. Tinkle's done it 204 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 4: before when we know when no one saw it coming. 205 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: So I think this is like the of all the 206 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 4: cliche dark horse chadar for these confrace turns. I think 207 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: this one truly has the most Every team except Arizona State. 208 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 4: I think could win a game or two, even Oregon State, 209 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: as crazy as that sounds, just because of the way 210 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 4: they Tinkles track record in this tournament, the way they 211 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 4: can mix the match defense is Stanford when they're healthy, 212 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 4: Spencer Jones is in there. They're goods as good as 213 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: anyone's in this league. And the Darling cal if Mark 214 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 4: Matt's and the Dancing Bear, I think we've seen some 215 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 4: uptick from them recently. 216 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: They don't have a ton of depth. 217 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: I'm not sure how they play in a tournament setting, 218 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: but I think they could easily march to the Semis 219 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: in a hot streak with the the Triumvirau of Jalen's 220 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 4: No Jalen's that's right. So yeah, so back to the 221 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 4: point about another reason why you know, taking that USC 222 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 4: flyer is good from a futures for EFECT, I've not 223 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 4: the money on Rollers because, yeah, I think you will 224 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 4: see some mayhem chaos throughout the rest of the bracket here. 225 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they you know, this is a team that 226 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 2: they're they're gonna get. You know, you're you're just gonna 227 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: get You're not gonna go through too many draughts with 228 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: the way Kylier's playing and being able to get to 229 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 2: the rim. They'll just have some dumb turnovers for long stretches. 230 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, while you're the biggest culprit in that regard. 231 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like they he can just whenever the end 232 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: to score, He'll just get to the rim at will. 233 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: And their defense, you know, so it's a fifty to 234 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: one shot. Their defense, you know, to play a lot 235 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: of zone. They're long, and this is one of the 236 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: reasons I like them against Arizona. I bet them last night, 237 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 2: is because they just have a bunch of bodies like 238 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: Uchuku Johnson that they can that they can uh excuse me. 239 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: I think I said Kobe Johnson before josh Wa Morgan 240 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 2: that I mentioned him. 241 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, yeah, he's great. 242 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 4: That's like, I think, the biggest unsung hero in this 243 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 4: whole bracket. Like he was hurt and they weren't good 244 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 4: and they got him back, and like, since he's been healthy, 245 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 4: I think he's been a key part as to why 246 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: they've been so much better. I mean he's a defensive 247 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 4: anchor for sure. 248 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but their defense because they play a lot of 249 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: zone and they're long, they're there, they give up a 250 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: lot of threes, which just increases the variants. 251 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: Which is what you want exactly, yep, precise that you want. 252 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: With a longer shot. So yeah, I think USC is 253 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: the look here. 254 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 4: I mean, how about this stuff there, they're dead last 255 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 4: and pac twelve and defensive free throw percentage completely luck 256 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: based and dead last and three point percentage, which I 257 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 4: think we'd agree they do give up some easy looks, 258 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 4: no question, out of that zone. But you're number one 259 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 4: in the conference in two point percentage defense, plock right, 260 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 4: Like you're protecting the rim turn people over again. I 261 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 4: think you create the variants in the in the parts 262 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: of the game you want to, and you roll the dice, 263 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 4: you live with the rest. 264 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, they are looking they on the season, 265 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 2: they're guarded jump shot rate allowed, they're in the sixty 266 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: eight percent tile, so they're you know, they're not giving 267 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: up a ton of open threes fifteenth percentile in points 268 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: per possession on guarded jumpers, eighth percentile and on guard 269 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: so everyone's making jump shot against them. Well, teams got 270 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: thirty eight percent, so there's some little potential looming regression 271 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: there from a jump. 272 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, their top fifty year right, just a piggyback their 273 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: top fifty in both percentage allowed at the rim and 274 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: percentage of attempts, So they don't allow. They don't allow 275 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 4: much after them to begin with, and when when you 276 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 4: do get there, you're not getting an easy bucket. To 277 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: your point, funneling people into the no man's land, inefficient 278 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 4: areas be it the zoner. 279 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 3: And they do play some man still as well. 280 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: I know they mix a match, but whatever it is effective, 281 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 4: and yeah, I think there's definitely there's definite value there. 282 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a team that just had so many injuries, 283 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: so much talent, and then you're because of that, you're 284 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 2: not able to build continuity, and I feel like they're 285 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: just starting to do that. And they also can come 286 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: into this tournament just playing completely loose, no expectations. 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Big twelve or. 309 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 4: The ACC Let's go Big twelve fanded Big bad twelve format. 310 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 4: Now we got a behemoth bracket for the first time 311 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: and forever with this conference. 312 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: Would just to be so nice in me with the 313 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: ten teamer. 314 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: But it's let's head to the Big twelve, which will 315 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: take place in Kansas City, Missouri. Kicks off Tuesday with 316 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: two first round playing games pretty much. UCF takes on 317 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: Oklahoma State and Cincinnati will face West Virginia. The top 318 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: four seeds get double buys into the quarters on Thursday. 319 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: That's Houston, Iowa State, the top two seeds Baylor and 320 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: Texas Tech, and five through ten seeds. Six teams get 321 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: a single bye into the second round on Wednesday. Very 322 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: odd to see Kansas as a sixth seed playing in 323 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: the second round. Most losses they've had in Big twelve play. 324 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: I think since nineteen eighty nine ninety Houston clear favorite 325 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: here minus one thirty five in this thing, which I 326 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: think is at least close to fair value. I don't 327 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: see any value in playing them. Iowa State plus two 328 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: seventy five, Baylor plus seven fifty, Kansas twelve to one, 329 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: BYU fourteen to one, Texas Tech twenty to one, Texas 330 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: fifty to one, TCU sixty five to one, o U 331 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: one hundred to one, k State three hundred to one. 332 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: I don't think we believe any other teams playing on 333 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: Tuesday can win five games in five days through this 334 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: going Would you agree with that? 335 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: No? I would agree. 336 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 4: However, I do have that there's a team in that 337 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 4: foursome I do I think is worth maybe taking a 338 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: flyer on. If you're looking to maybe hedge bred at 339 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 4: that point. That could be a money line roll over 340 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 4: type of situation too. 341 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: But but no, I just going back for the data. UCF. 342 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 343 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: I like UC quite a bit. 344 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: I mean their d is nationally elite, and. 345 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: It's been all the way good since DJ Walker has 346 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 4: been back. Another team like USC had some disjointed or 347 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: rotations when their back court it's not a back where 348 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 4: I love, but it's a high variance backcourt for sure. 349 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 4: With some of the tough shots, I mean the shot 350 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 4: they maybe it's Houston for stretches there were like super impressive, 351 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 4: Like I think that's a type of DNA with that 352 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 4: backbone of their defense. Oklahoma State Young, I don't think 353 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 4: they're gonna post much for a threat here. I just 354 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: don't in BYU outside of the Marriott Center. They've played 355 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: well outside. You know, they played pretty well away from 356 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 4: home BYU, but they've been so much better at home. 357 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 4: I like that you get those two back to back 358 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: and then Texas Tech if you're gonna draw one of 359 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 4: the top four seeds, like with the injuries that Tech's had, 360 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 4: that's where you want to be in the bracket for sure. 361 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: Like BYU. 362 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 4: If you're a BYU fan, like you're liking your chops 363 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 4: at that for all two. So I think there's a 364 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 4: good chance UCF can win three in a row and 365 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 4: just be kind of a sitting duck for Houston. 366 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: But at five hundred to one, I don't know. You 367 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: tell me. 368 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I might just play UCF game to game 369 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 4: until we get to the Semis. But now there's no way. 370 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of dead money throwing. Someone's actually 371 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 4: like you could play a Final four future in this 372 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 4: in this bracket, whichuld be kind of cool. I think 373 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 4: UCF's got a good set up here to make a 374 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 4: cute little Cinderello noise that properly ends with the Houston 375 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: thrashing on Friday. 376 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I don't mind that. If if as soon 377 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: as you said one team, it would be UCF. I 378 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 2: mean they're twelve and adjusted defensive efficiency, I mean they 379 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: can't shoot. But you got to keep in mind that 380 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: Shami Allen was really important that defense too. He missed 381 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: two games in League Player that they lost. They won. 382 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 2: They recently won at Oklahoma State. They played BYU twice tough. 383 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 3: Both games lost by two. 384 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah two in provo, Yeah, which is not easy to do, 385 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 2: and they shredded by They put up I don't know 386 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: how that offense scored eighty eight, but they did seventy. 387 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 3: Some possessions help, I guess. 388 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were very close. That they played in Lubbock, 389 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 2: one of the hardest places to play. That was a 390 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: two point game of the Minute to Go. They played 391 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: without Diallo in that game was important offensive. 392 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 4: Game and Tech cat Washington too, right, So no Diallo 393 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 4: and Washington, that's both that'll be flipped. Actually, I don't 394 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 4: have the updent of Washington status for the TEA. 395 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: I don't either, so that the key injuries to keep 396 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: in mind here. Yeah, I could call Washington didn't have 397 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: a boot on, but he didn't play, so they might 398 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: just be resting him for the NCAA tournament because I 399 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: think mchaslym brought him back way too soon. I think 400 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: it was at UCF and right, I think was it. Yeah, Washington, 401 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: he came in and then he reinjured his ankle. He 402 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: only played thirteen minutes. So mchaslyn has been quoted saying, like, 403 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: we want to be really cautious now, and I think 404 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: he kind of regrets rushing him back, So he might 405 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: have been really cautious. And Tech is a completely different 406 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: team one away from home and without Washington. I mean, 407 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: he's big, getting they don't. 408 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 4: Start anyone taller than six seven, Like it's just weird 409 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 4: to think that, like that's a Texas Tech team with 410 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: I mean literally it's just a bunch of wings and 411 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 4: pop Isaacs and Joe Tussat doing doing their thing in 412 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 4: the BAP court. So I mean that's a game where 413 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 4: UCF grabs twenty five offensive rebounds or something, you know, 414 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 4: it could be a blood bath upfront. 415 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Texas Tech is not like they're they're gonna 416 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: shoot a ton of threes. And if they don't have Washington, 417 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: that's the that's the top four seed that you want 418 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: to face. So yeah, I don't mind UCF as a 419 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 2: super long long shot powerball ticket. And Houston, you know, 420 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: maybe there's a part of them that's just like I mean, Samson, 421 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: They're not gonna lose on purpose. Samson loves winning. But right, right, right, 422 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: I have some depth issues. You know, there's no Tuggler. 423 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: Now there's a team that I mean, it's amazing what 424 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: they've done despite their injuries. They lost Arsenal earlier in 425 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: the season, Ramon Walker's out for the year, and Tugler 426 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: without him, their defense takes a hit and then their depth. 427 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 2: So like for a team that fouls a lot, you know, 428 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: if any of their bigs get in foul trouble, that's 429 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: I have a Houston future. That's what I'm really worried 430 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 2: about in the tournament because then you're going to like 431 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: Laithe who's so raw, and it's a huge drop off. 432 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 4: I mean, France, I just readized Francis fouled outlast game 433 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: against Kansas. He played ten minutes at eight points, ten minutes, 434 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 4: five fouls didn't matter because they won by thirty. 435 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: But no, I think that's a real risk too. I 436 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 3: think the depth of front. 437 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 4: There, they actually become Roberts Gets already gone. 438 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So so maybe Houston with like some of 439 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: their depth concerns. I mean, look, they they maybe they 440 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: could put they lost a TCU and they beat Oklahoma 441 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: the buzzard. It's not and both those teams will be 442 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: playing for their tournament lives. It's not out of the 443 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: realm of possibilities that one of those teams upsets Houston 444 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: in the quarterfinals. So yeah, if you want to throw. 445 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: Some couch change, yeah, exactly, no more. 446 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: Uf that's that would be the super long shot. But 447 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: with Houston in the top half, Texas Tech injury questions 448 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: in most scenarious, Houston's gonna get through to the championship, 449 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: but they could get picked off. You know, you got 450 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: a Texas Tech team's gonna shoot a ton of threes. 451 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: You gotta have shot makers to beat that Houston team 452 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: and if Washington comes back, but outside of the Powerball 453 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: ticket in the top half, I'm targeting the bottom half 454 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: of the bracket for a potential future that's more than 455 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 2: couch change. And the way that I look at this 456 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: is hugely by the way. He should be back for Oklahoma. 457 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: He's been out and then they since the other injuries. 458 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 4: I do think ou is a pretty good I think 459 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 4: Moser has a pretty good playbuck for Houston. Uh, I 460 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 4: mean that game was sort of anomaly and how high 461 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 4: scoring it was. They lost at the buzzer. Uh, they're 462 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 4: in Norman, But I think with Hugly and some size, 463 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: given Houston's crippling interior size, I think Oklahoma can give 464 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 4: Houston another close one as well. So I think you 465 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 4: could see some chaos at the top part there if 466 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 4: the series. 467 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 3: Can be TCU who I just t see you. I'm 468 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: kind of completely out on. 469 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 4: I think they've kind of lost their lost their way 470 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 4: without du front, no rim protection. I think they're kind 471 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 4: of an identity crisis right now. So I think O, 472 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 4: you could give Houston a good punch if they get 473 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 4: past the horn Frogs. 474 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Oklahoma is in. I think TCUs maybe in. 475 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 2: But tc loses this game. 476 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: They're both on the nine seed line per bracket matrix. 477 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: Now that's pre yesterday. 478 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: This is that. Yeah, so they're going to drop to 479 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: ten and yeah, so the. 480 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: TCU has a non conference that's rated three fifty seventh. 481 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 2: Do you know what might get TCU in the tournament? 482 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 3: I mean if they're in, Oh yeah, I think so. 483 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: I think no, no, no, I'm saying they are. But 484 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they have that win over Houston. But 485 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 2: you know what's going to get them in? That fucking 486 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: miss call against Georgetown. They should have lost the Georgetown. 487 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 4: Oh try, they should have lost that game. Yeah, COOLi 488 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 4: was described about that ole. No, actually he played the 489 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: high road there. 490 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 3: That's a good point. 491 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 2: So if they lost that game, I think they would 492 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 2: be on the right now, definitely be on the outside 493 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: looking at which just shows you how crazy that all 494 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: this is. 495 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 4: Would you like a team on the bottom half of 496 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 4: the bracket. And Texas was the one I wanted to 497 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: briefly discuss. I think that's a more serious, a more 498 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 4: legitimate play. 499 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: I just wanted to look at Oklahoma TCU. Oklahoma lost 500 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: their only meeting TCU was at TCU. But Oklahoma generally 501 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: is a really good transition defense. They do have some 502 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: turnover issues, which. 503 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 4: Americas, and they've had those those point guard injury and 504 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: mcclum has been banged up and and Uson's like they 505 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 4: were playing without a point guard for half the game 506 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 4: against Cincinnati and it was lost. And I think you 507 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 4: could tell it's starting to catch up now. Texas was 508 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 4: on fire yesterday. I'm not gonna sort of a you know, 509 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: the Horns caught heat there. But I love Moser. I 510 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: just wish he had a little more juice in the 511 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 4: back court. And I don't think the columns all the 512 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: way healthy. That's my one concern. It doesn't look like 513 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 4: he's fully himself and they need his shot like his 514 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 4: shot making is like the you know, that's kind of 515 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: the Kripstie. A lot of these defenses that really show 516 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 4: it up. 517 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the one good thing is that if 518 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: you get I think Hugle's coming back, we'll see how 519 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: much he can give them. Because TCU's rim defense and 520 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: post defense that horrible. 521 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not existent. 522 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 4: It's like I'm saying TCU and Texas Tech like you 523 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: have to readjust your frame of mind about what these 524 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 4: teams are this year just different, yep yep. 525 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, in the bottom half. Here's my problem with 526 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: Texas at fifty to one, with all their talent, that's 527 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: definitely an intriguing long shot. In order to get to 528 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 2: the semis, you gotta beat Kansas State and Iowa State. 529 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: So what does that mean? Brawls? Yeah, get hurt, brawls 530 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: like you're just going to be beat up and then say, 531 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: then you get through a semi, then you're like, yeah, 532 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: Houston waiting for you. So it's like a it's a 533 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 2: it's a tough ass. Kansas State elite defense nationally only 534 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: they're like you see, they can't shoot and they can't 535 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 2: score it. They go through long droughts, but they're going 536 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: to battle you, and you know they have a guy 537 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 2: like part of you who can go off. My problem 538 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: is I watched Kansas. 539 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 4: State also real quick k C K State. They'll it'll 540 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 4: be a huge I mean, I know Kansas is basically 541 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: it's a home game for for them, but Case State 542 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 4: will drawl massively to at the a team mobile I 543 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 4: think it's called Team Obile now, So that's I mean 544 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 4: don't know about occuputing that, but I think it does 545 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 4: matter a little bit. 546 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that. I mean, they're gonna be 547 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: like maybe three and a half point dogs the Texas. 548 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 2: They lost their only meetings at Texas, but they were 549 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: in the game the entire way. Neither team could make 550 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: a three, know, but iay State. So here's my thing. 551 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: When I look at this pricing. Iowa State, who's I mean, 552 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 2: are elite obviously nationally Defensively, Lipsey is just he had 553 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 2: purry in Hell yesterday. Even though Kansas State pulled out 554 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: that win had more to do with Iowa State's offense 555 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 2: and Kansas State's defense, to their credit. But when I'm 556 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 2: looking at these odds, Iowa State is plus two seventy 557 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: five and Baylor is plus seven fifty. I don't get 558 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: that deck outomy. 559 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say, I agree, yep, these two. 560 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: I have these two teams power rated almost similarly, and 561 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 2: you could argue Baylor has an easier path because I. 562 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: Am vailor rated higher. 563 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 4: I think Baylor is better by a nose Personally, I'll 564 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 4: go with stuff farther than you, and I think their 565 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 4: path is easier just given Kansas injuries. 566 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: No depth already, so we've seen them on like the 567 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 2: Saturday to Monday. I don't think Kansas is a shot here. 568 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: They're not worth considering. You're going to see a fatter 569 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: price with them, and it's Kansas. I doubt they play 570 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: mccallor and or they're not going to plan the whole tournament. 571 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 3: Yet hurt too, yep. 572 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 2: So like, who are you down to? You're gonna be relying. 573 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 3: On Nick timberfake from three. Maybe he bangs you. 574 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna have like a lot about Marco Jackson there. 575 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 2: You don't have any depth. Like, even if they were 576 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: fully healthy with their depth issues, I wouldn't like them 577 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 2: in this format, having to win four games in four days. 578 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: But I think Self is gonna be like, all right, 579 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: we're not gonna do this. We're in let's make sure 580 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: mccullor and Dickinson are healthy, rest up for the dance. Yep, 581 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: they're gonna try. But when I say like Self's gonna 582 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: just chalk this up, it means he might rest. He 583 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: just might rest them. I don't think the caller is 584 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: gonna play. And you have, especially back to backs, so 585 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 2: I think Taylor has a much easier game. We just 586 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: saw Kansas State beat Iowa State. That would be just 587 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: another brawl. Texas can easily beat Iowa State. They have 588 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: the shot makers that you need to beat Iowa State. 589 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 4: So I think Texas Texas can give some of Iowa's 590 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 4: state of dose to their because Texas brings ball pressure too. 591 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 4: I like that Texas like kind of brings the fight 592 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 4: back to Iowa State. But to your part about Kansas, 593 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 4: you're right talking about I mean, there's a chance, but 594 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 4: color plays in the first one, but not the second one. 595 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: I think you definitely don't play it back to back. 596 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, looking at the Baylor Iowa State, you know 597 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 4: that that to those two slivers at the bottom of 598 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 4: the bracket, You're right, Baylor probably has a more favorable 599 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 4: drawled in it than it looks just because you see 600 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 4: Kansas and that kind of gives you sticker shock. But 601 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 4: given the situational stuff and the fact that I love 602 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 4: kind of goes against my Texas angle here. I love 603 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 4: that Iowa State and Baylor both lost on the road 604 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 4: to close out regular season. I think that's going to 605 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 4: be a good bounce back with the extra day off 606 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 4: till Thursday. I think you are really good Iowa State 607 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 4: and really good Baylor efforts. Right, I don't know what 608 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 4: the price will be or who they end up playing, 609 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 4: but I don't think you're getting duds in either of 610 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 4: those two spots on those two teams. Baylor with Linkston 611 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 4: Love back, I think that's huge. 612 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mikes and Love just came back enormous, So gives 613 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: them more depth, more scoring, punch off the bench. He's 614 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: one of the best six men in all college basketball. 615 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 4: And they don't have much depth either, right, I think 616 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 4: they're not like Kansas thin, but but I think everyone, 617 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 4: every one of their key cogs. 618 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: That plays is a pretty pretty pretty big deal. 619 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And they mean it's a team that lost. 620 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: They they finished. Baylor finished eleven and seven in conference, 621 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: got the three seed. They lost at Kansas by three, 622 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: they lost at Texas by two, and then they lost 623 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: three league overtime games TCU and triple overtime, Kansas State 624 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: in overtime, and then Houston in overtime. They were right there. 625 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: And this is a team, very young, with as much 626 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: talent as anyone. That's kind of like peaking at the 627 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: right time. So yeah, I think, like so, Baylor Iowa 628 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: State regardless, it'll be around a pick in the semis, 629 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: and I think Baylor is an easier path. So plus 630 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: seven fifty sign me up for Baylor. 631 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 3: I like Bail. 632 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm with you on so I think that. Yeah, 633 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 4: so Baylor, Texas. 634 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: The other seeds down there are Sincy in West Virginia. 635 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, just since he give you any scare, I've been 636 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 4: kind of a Sincy guy all year, but I sold 637 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 4: most of my shares on a month to guy. I 638 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 4: just think they've there. They don't have any rhythm offensively, 639 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 4: and they're not as dominant. Their rim dominance doesn't play 640 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 4: up in this conference. It's just it's a bad league 641 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 4: to come to the table with that type of approach. 642 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, in West Virginia. I mean, I don't you could. No, 643 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 3: that's not even entertained that one. I like Baylor. You've 644 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: kind of connenced me on Baylor. 645 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 4: I just think they're right the path and the relative 646 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 4: pricing compared to Iowa State, which give in my Texas affinity. 647 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: I think you can. Yeah, I think we've made a pretty. 648 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: Solid case that Baylor has the easier draw to get 649 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 4: to the time. I mean, just funny, like Baylor versus Houston. 650 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 4: Like Houston is a favorite to win this and Baylor 651 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 4: is close to ten to one. Like I don't feel 652 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,239 Speaker 4: like that. That's another diconomy. It doesn't make any sense 653 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 4: to me now that you really break it down. 654 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and on the surface, I mean Baylor's goo and look, 655 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: Bear's defense is improving since they've just gone they've gone 656 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: to like half zone. They've gone a lot of No. 657 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: One one three, one three one that Drew is brought back, 658 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: which works in a works well in attorney setting. It's 659 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: not like they've been using it all year, so they're 660 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: gonna get killed on the offensive glass by Houston. But 661 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: overall their defense is better. Their defense was so bad 662 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: early in the season. The zone has kind of helped 663 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: them a bit. And yeah, you get loved back. While 664 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: these other teams are dealing with injuries, you're getting someone back. 665 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: And you know, we saw Baylor. What do you need 666 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: to do to eat Houston? You have to for first 667 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: of all, you can't turn the ball over, but you 668 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: have to be able. There's a couple of things you 669 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: have to do to beat Houston. One, you have to 670 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: crash the offensive glass. Very aggressive defense. Baylor top twenty 671 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: five team offensive rebounding rate, and you have to have shots, 672 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: so you got to swing the ball and you have 673 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: to have shot makers against that defense. Baylor has those 674 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: in spades. So I mean as a team that shot 675 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: over forty pc from three on the season, So yeah, 676 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: Baylor is like certainly a team. They played Houston at home, 677 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: they were down what twenty and then came all the 678 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:50,959 Speaker 2: way back exactly yep, so yeah, they could definitely beat Houston. 679 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: And Houston with like all of that, they're like so 680 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: beat up. It would be their third game in three 681 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: days and there might just be something. It's all SubCom 682 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: so they're gonna try to win. But like Houston is 683 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: like like get me to the get me to the tournament, like. 684 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 3: Their first year in the Big twelve. 685 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 4: I means Samson's talked about this right, like even on 686 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 4: his weekly press conferences, he talks about how like getting 687 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 4: a split on these back to back road trips is 688 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 4: like a victory. Like it's even he I think, really 689 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 4: is embodying the we're in this league to help it 690 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 4: sharpen us for the actual tournament. We're going to take 691 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 4: some bumps along the way. That's fine. Like the the 692 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 4: the the tolerance for air is much higher than it 693 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 4: used to be when the AC So I don't know 694 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 4: that's kind of a big picture, you know, hid this 695 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 4: guy thing, but I think that kind of applies here 696 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 4: in a game where you're you're not it's not life 697 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 4: or death. It doesn't feel like life or death. I 698 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 4: think they're locked in the one seed and what do 699 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 4: they really have to play for? And you get healthy, 700 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 4: like the injuries have torn their seasons last few years, 701 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 4: Like that is the number one. 702 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 3: Days rest? Yeahs like Francis is. 703 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: Playing with one Roberts. Yeah, he's playing with one hand 704 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: right now. You know, Francis had bumps and bruises. Their guards, 705 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: you know, play so much, I mean shed and cryer 706 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: though that they they play. I mean they play eighty 707 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: eighty five percent of every game. So I want them 708 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: to just get rest with their you know, their their depth, 709 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: which is dwindling. So we'll see. But all right, so 710 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: we agree on Baylor Powerball ticket on UCF. Texas with 711 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 2: their talent definitely intriguing as well. Agree on all fronts. 712 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm thinking about Texas if I I'm gonna look 713 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 4: at Texas and Baylor a little closer. I think I'll 714 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 4: probably pull the trigger on one of those two. I 715 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 4: don't need both. 716 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: I think you don't need three tickets in one kill you. 717 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm rolling with Baylor and then throw just 718 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: a few pass on UCF for fun. 719 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 3: Come on, Johnny Dawkins, Well yeah, I mean. 720 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: You see what's gonna brawl you. Uh, they can just 721 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: hit some shots, and yeah, I don't hate their paths 722 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: a long shot. Before we move on, I think we 723 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: both agreed. Houston's a legit national title contender. So is Arizona. 724 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: But do you believe in Arizona? So the one thing 725 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 2: that you know kind of scare me about Arizona, Like 726 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: they obviously have a ton of talent, they're very well coached. 727 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: But look, I have to give him. I have to 728 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: give Caleb a love ton of credit. He's been incredible 729 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 2: this year. But like watching him last night, like he. 730 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, last night, he's because his bad is as bad 731 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 4: as he gets. I mean he was one for ten, 732 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 4: five turnovers and then the defense right and the whole 733 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 4: it's just like he's a it's like the osmosis of 734 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 4: his stink. His stench when it's not going well can 735 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 4: be Yeah, one and done situation. Now, I think that's 736 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 4: always been my help my hangout with them. I also 737 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 4: worry about Lloyd's adaptability to very extreme style. You know. 738 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 4: I think the PACTV you see a lot of defensive 739 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 4: said that does help them, but it did not. They 740 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 4: weren't ready for Princeton's We're Gonna Slam on the Brakes 741 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 4: Mitch Henderson brilliance last year. I think they learned their 742 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 4: lesson from that. I think Caleb Love actually can help 743 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 4: it a game like that where you can to soft 744 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 4: from the defense to make some shots from deep, but 745 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 4: he also can kill you too. So I think they're 746 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 4: a good national title future. I just think they can 747 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 4: easily bounce South to round to thirty two. 748 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a team that can keep them out of transition. 749 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 2: Like they're really good in the half court too, but 750 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: obviously they want to run. They're in like ninety percent dile. 751 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: They want to get out and they're deadly in transition. March, 752 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 2: you're gonna get more half court games, and yeah, they 753 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: scam it back and look away from home. They had 754 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 2: not been great. They're seven and five on the road. 755 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 2: They lost to They just lost the USC. They lost 756 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 2: the Stafford. They lost to Oregon State Washington State. 757 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, so just to put a bill on your point there, 758 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 4: they I'm looking at em and Maya's relative ratings. He 759 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 4: does ratings by pace adjustment, so like, how well do 760 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 4: you perform relatively in games that are faster or slower? 761 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 4: And their top ten in pace adjustment to the fast. 762 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 4: So basically they are elite, elite and up tempo games 763 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 4: right when they play their style, they are much more 764 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 4: mortal when the game slows down like that is not 765 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 4: just like an anecdotal ite. That's an actual databased relative 766 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 4: ratings split from my stuff. 767 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 3: So yeah, that kind of backs up there. 768 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Their transition D also raised out better than their 769 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: half court D as well, so. 770 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 3: Which which I buy them down and just scrambling. 771 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's probably the chaos is probably to their benefit relatively. 772 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 2: Yet, it's finally March, so you know what that means. 773 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 2: It's time to say top of the morning to the 774 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 2: most famous Saint Patrick's Day. 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It feels weird. 791 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 2: Why look for this to be played. 792 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: In DC DC Yeah, I don't get it either. 793 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 2: It should be in Greensboro. ACC fourteen Team bracket kicks 794 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: off some. 795 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 3: Mess day holding mass and brackets and mess. 796 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: YEP kicks off Tuesday, goes till Saturday. Top four seeds 797 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 2: get a double bitt of the quarters on Thursday. Seeds 798 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 2: five through nine get a bye to the second round 799 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 2: on Wednesday. Playing first round games Notre Name Georgia Tech, 800 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 2: two teams that are playing better of late. It should 801 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: be an interesting game. NC State Louisville and BC Miami 802 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 2: goes from the final four to the fourteen seed in 803 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 2: the ACC tournament. Looking at the odds here, UNC and 804 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 2: Duke around plus one fifty to win this thing. I 805 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: have him fair around like two to one, so don't 806 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 2: see any value there. Clemson eight plus eight fifty, Wake 807 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 2: plus nine hundred, Pit twelve to one, Virginia nineteen to one, 808 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: Vo Tech thirty to one, Miami hundred and fifty to one. 809 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 2: Any let's see if there's any injury situations here. I 810 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 2: don't know what's going on with Monsanto and Wake. He 811 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: was supposed to he was injured, then he was supposed 812 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 2: to Partaken Senior that he didn't show up. He's I 813 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 2: think he matters to them, like he just gives them 814 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 2: extra shooting. I also can't trust Wake away from home, 815 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 2: but Wake's path would be winner of Notre Name Georgia Tech. 816 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 2: Georgia Tech might have already ruined their season and then 817 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 2: they would play HIT. If they get through that, then 818 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 2: UNC Lynn kidd hamstring injury. That's important for vo Tech. 819 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 2: He didn't play. Not sure what his status is, but 820 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 2: he matters to them. Yep, I agree if he was. 821 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 2: You know, if he was healthy, I might consider Botech 822 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 2: just with their guard play U n C. You know 823 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 2: they're gonna get a UNC team off of the big 824 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 2: Duke win in the quarters. So I might look to 825 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 2: bet Botech there if Kid is healthy. But I don't 826 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 2: know if I can get to a future. But you know, 827 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 2: thirty to one is at least something i'd consider because 828 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna get North Carolina in a good spot. 829 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 2: And I still think team teams are a little bit 830 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 2: still do to make some threes against North Carolina. Pitt 831 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 2: they've been playing better of late. Could they take advantage 832 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: maybe in North Carolina getting upset or beating North Carolina, 833 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 2: I you know, they might be playing. They might have 834 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 2: to win this. I think to get in or at 835 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 2: least get to the ACC Championship to be considered for 836 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 2: the NCAA Tournament. In the bottom half, Duke will get 837 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 2: you know, either Syracuse, NC State or Louisville. Don't think 838 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 2: they a lot of any trouble with any of those teams. 839 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 2: And then you know in the semis, either Virginia or 840 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 2: Clemson Clemson I want, I want no part of Virginia. 841 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 2: We just saw Virginia get destroyed by Duke. Their offense stinks. 842 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 2: Clemson's definitely intriguing. I think Clemson would beat Virginia. They 843 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 2: all they should have won or you know, lost by 844 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 2: at the buzzer at Cameron against Duke, and you know 845 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 2: they split with North Carolina. I lost one at UNC, 846 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 2: which they never do, and then you know they lost 847 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 2: at home. They shot I think one of nineteen from three. 848 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 2: So I think that Clemson is the third best team 849 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 2: in even though they're the sixth seed. Yep, I agree 850 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 2: with that one, you know, especially if you know it's 851 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 2: not home Wake Forest. So I think Clemson is definitely 852 00:40:54,840 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 2: worth a look. The only lottery ticket I can get behind. 853 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 2: And this is again, this is just a power ball, 854 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 2: like two hundred to one Miami. 855 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 856 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 2: I don't know Nigel Pack, I don't know what his 857 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 2: status is, but they've been hurt all year. Obviously have 858 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 2: a ton of talent, you know, with Poplar Pack, George. 859 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 2: This is a team that made a Final Four run. 860 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 2: They are well coach, I think they just quit. They Yeah, 861 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 2: the team went to the Final Four and then they 862 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 2: just were like, all right, we're not going anywhere. And 863 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 2: they were an absolute train wreck to close out the season, 864 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 2: which is why they ended up here. They also dealt 865 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 2: with a ton of injuries and they've been bad without 866 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 2: Pack the past two years. Even though he doesn't play 867 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 2: much defense, he's huge offensively. But they lost nine straight 868 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 2: to close the year, including a sweep. They got swept 869 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 2: by BC, who they will start with so they could 870 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 2: go win bring out again. But this is a team that, like, 871 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: you know their path on paper. This is their path 872 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 2: on paper, see Clemson in Virginia to get to the semis. 873 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 4: I mean it's not right, it's no exactly. I have 874 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 4: this written down too. It's like their path is seducing me, 875 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 4: and so it can into like, oh, this could easily 876 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 4: be like a last year rerun. It's like, yeah, pathwise situationally, 877 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 4: but I actually. 878 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 2: Don't want to a bench, which is where are Yeah, 879 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 2: they've been dealing with injuries, but a powerball ticket sure, 880 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 2: and then that they win those three they get to 881 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 2: the Semis against Duke. You know they're going to get 882 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 2: like their mojo back with all that talent. It's worth 883 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 2: a couple of dollars. 884 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 3: I agree. 885 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 4: I think it's it's couch changed consideration. I actually gave 886 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 4: Florida State similar consideration for the same angle like team. 887 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 4: So we actually heard some of the nil stuff at 888 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,919 Speaker 4: Florida State this year, like kids were like a couple 889 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 4: of kids like set out practice something like that. Like 890 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 4: I think Florida State, like Miami big nil deals, a 891 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 4: lot of talent underachieved, could easily see a flip switch here. 892 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 4: And Florida State least has to win one LASS game. 893 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 4: But problem is that their matchups are, you know, Virginia 894 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 4: Tech and UNC. I know UNC is in a tough spot, 895 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 4: but I actually like the Miami Path better than Florida 896 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 4: State even I have just won one more game. 897 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 3: But those are the two. I mean, the other one 898 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 3: just worth worth mentioning. 899 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 4: I think Michael Shrewsbury is eight and zer against the 900 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 4: Spreading Conference tournaments. 901 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 3: I know that doesn't mean much, but the Irish. 902 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 4: Certainly played better down the stretch they've been wake, They've 903 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 4: beaten Tech. I think they can out coach Pitt in 904 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 4: that next game. That's the other one I sort of 905 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 4: looked at. 906 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Florida State, they you know, they split 907 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 2: with a vow tech. They're gonna start with aout tech. 908 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 2: The case for Florida State, which I could see, is 909 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 2: that you could get vo tech without kid right. 910 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 4: And they played UNC close bow times. They had un 911 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 4: C buried at their place. UNC turned on the press 912 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 4: and like Florida State had no idea what to do. 913 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 4: And then Florida State I think was tied with like 914 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 4: a minute ago, and Orka scored the final eight or 915 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 4: something like. Both those final scores are buried deceiving. So 916 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 4: I kind of like the Floridata UNC set up there 917 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 4: in the quarters. 918 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're gonna get you N seen a good spot. 919 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 2: Like it's just like, hey, we you know, they might 920 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 2: just be a little high and fat and happy after 921 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 2: that Duke win. So yeah, there's definitely some I don't 922 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 2: think there's any value in Duke or unce it like 923 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 2: plus one fifty. 924 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 3: Like I mean, just yep, I agree, just wait. 925 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 2: Until the championship and then play. 926 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 4: It's also worth noting here it's funny that both Wake 927 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 4: and Clemson have shorter odds than Pitt in Virginia, who 928 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 4: have to win one less game, So like it kind 929 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 4: of just shows you what the market opinion is of 930 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 4: both Virginia and and I think I would agree on 931 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 4: Virginia Pit. I'm actual a little more a believer in 932 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 4: but still I think the odds are actually right to 933 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 4: price those Inversely, I guess. 934 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree Pit the one they could win this, 935 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 2: but they just need good hints and to show up 936 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 2: and go nuclear for a couple of games. 937 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,439 Speaker 3: I did go back. I looked. 938 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 4: I think it's been over a decade and I've pressed 939 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 4: them the other big tournaments too that a non top 940 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 4: four seed has won. So just part of me is like, 941 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 4: out of principle, like maybe it's worth doing a two 942 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 4: team portfolio of Pitt in Virginia with the really nice 943 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 4: odds that you're getting for teams that are in a variable, 944 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 4: in a favorable spot in the bracket, they only have 945 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 4: to win three games. It's still Tony Bennett like, maybe 946 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,439 Speaker 4: there's a a shot making light bulb, but I still 947 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 4: think they're toasts. 948 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 949 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 4: I went back and forth on those two as well, 950 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 4: but one hundred and fifty. 951 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 3: To one Miami worth some change. 952 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 4: I think it's worth some change. I didn't see much 953 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 4: else here though, I really didn't. 954 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 2: I agree, I. 955 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 3: Didn't see much. 956 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 4: I mean Syracuse is like, maybe there's some Jim Bayheim 957 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 4: tournament magic, but again, it's a conference tournament. The teams 958 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 4: know each other, and it's a it's red autry, and 959 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 4: they're not playing as much zone right. 960 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 3: They're playing I think more recently, and their drawl is 961 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 3: is tough. 962 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 2: Right. 963 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 4: I think Duke's the last of the four top seeds 964 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 4: you want to see for sure coming out of that 965 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,439 Speaker 4: second shoot. So I crossed them off my list as well. 966 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 4: Sixty five to one Syracuse. 967 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't get there at that price specifically, and Syracuse, 968 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 2: like they also would have to win four games in 969 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 2: four days. They have no bench, yeah, and they have 970 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 2: no bigs anymore. 971 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 4: I mean they can that they can plump the zone. 972 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,760 Speaker 4: The zones the ultimate remedy to know bench. Maybe Audrey 973 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 4: digs into the Jim beehinbag and tricks. 974 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 2: For a that would be interesting logical ride. Yeah they are. 975 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 2: I mean they're they've played zone twenty percent. 976 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 4: Okay, where do you look? I'm trying to isolate. I 977 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 4: was I need to have like a zone versus man 978 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 4: by game. I was trying to get those splits broken outs. 979 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 4: I know they were playing more in certain. 980 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 2: They're playing zone twenty On season, they played zone twenty 981 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 2: percent of the time. 982 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 3: Okay, that's hi, but not what it usually is. 983 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean against Louisville they played thirty five 984 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 2: zone play sessions twenty one man. Against Votech it was 985 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 2: sixty three man, no zone. 986 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 3: Okay. 987 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 2: Against North Carolina they played fifty eight sessions of zone 988 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 2: five man. 989 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 4: And won that game. Correct, That was so that was good? 990 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,760 Speaker 4: Yeah right, that was the February thirteenth. Yea, Okay, maybe 991 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 4: that's a I think Audrey should look at what his 992 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 4: former boss did so well in these tournament formats for 993 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,879 Speaker 4: and try and dip back. And I think that would 994 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 4: just be a wise decision, you know, why not while 995 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 4: your talent on offense, see where it takes you, and 996 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,280 Speaker 4: then try and be smoking mearsy on defense. 997 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 2: I State is going to beat Louisville. 998 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,439 Speaker 4: Yes, but yeah, man, NC State, that's another team that's 999 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 4: like he can get seduced by the talent. But they've 1000 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,479 Speaker 4: proven nothing to me in any big spots this year, 1001 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 4: like nothing. 1002 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 2: They haven't really seen zone, but they've been good against it. 1003 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 2: Although Syracuse. I think Syracuse beat NC State twice. They 1004 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 2: swept n C State during the regular season. Sah, they 1005 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 2: couldn't stop them. I mean they're just they put up 1006 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 2: eighty seven to use and morale is Keat's done. 1007 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 3: I had more hope, Yeah, I think so, if not 1008 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 3: this year next I think I've heard conflicting reports on that. 1009 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that Syracuse is just so reliant on like Mints. Yeah, 1010 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 2: and you know it helps when. 1011 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 4: Like Chris Bell's had some big games. Yeah he's been nice, 1012 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,359 Speaker 4: and Starling can go off to but but you're right, 1013 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 4: you're in need. You know, Mits needs to be the superhero, 1014 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 4: but you're gonna need like Bell and throwing to bring 1015 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 4: the to bring it as well. 1016 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 3: You can't have off nights from. 1017 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Starling and Mints. They rely on them. They play 1018 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 2: so much like and then you got to win four 1019 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 2: games in four days, like that's for you know, a 1020 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 2: team in Syracuse, that's I mean, it would be interesting 1021 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 2: if they start playing more zone, but you know it's 1022 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 2: a jump shooting team, so that's a tough ask for 1023 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 2: four games. In four days. 1024 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, you like it as a as a dog, as 1025 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 4: a flyer, but still it's not it's not one that 1026 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 4: you trust even in the opening round. 1027 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,959 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this before we get out of here. Uh, Duke, 1028 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 2: So they were, you know, everyone was kind of starting 1029 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 2: to hype them up. And you know, if you looked 1030 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 2: at like a lot of their adjusted efficiency metrics since 1031 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 2: that Carolina loss, they were like playing as like a 1032 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 2: top ten team. But if you look after that camp 1033 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 2: first loss, here's where they played, Notre Dame at home, 1034 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 2: BC at home, Wake at home, Florida State, Miami, the 1035 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 2: corpse of Miami, Louisville at home, that Virginia disgusting team 1036 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 2: at home YEP and State and they lost that week. 1037 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,839 Speaker 4: You can't learn anything about UNC and Duke during conference play, 1038 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 4: That's my opinion. Like I think people overreact in both 1039 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 4: directions to whatever you thought of Duke going into the 1040 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 4: conference play a little different for Duke though, because they 1041 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 4: had some younger freshmen, so like they had a right 1042 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 4: to improve and improve quickly or like UNC, like whatever 1043 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 4: you thought of UNC going into conference play, I think 1044 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 4: you have to have that opinion coming out of conference play. 1045 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 4: Don't let the water down League sort of inflate your 1046 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 4: opinion of Duke. Now, I thought Duke last year, whether 1047 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 4: they did the same thing at Real Hot Late, they 1048 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 4: looked very legit. I argue, they just got a tough 1049 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 4: matchup in Tennesseee like I think they could have easily 1050 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,879 Speaker 4: gone to made a Final four run there. This year, 1051 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, you can see the same trajectory 1052 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 4: starting to take hold. But this team I think just 1053 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,439 Speaker 4: lacks that physicality, punch, that that rim protect or that 1054 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 4: they're going to really be exposed by in certain matchups. 1055 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 2: That's what I was just gonna ask you. So he 1056 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 2: has a nice transition that you know this team. I mean, 1057 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 2: look loosing to Carolina in that spot when Baycott and 1058 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 2: Davis combined for eighteen points and you go up eighty four, 1059 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 2: and you know shined for UNC it was you know 1060 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,240 Speaker 2: Cormack Curry That's what I call him now, who obviously 1061 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 2: just went off and of But you know Cormack, Ryan 1062 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 2: is great, Harris and Ingram great. These are like older 1063 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:36,840 Speaker 2: veteran older, yes, and they out physical Duke is I 1064 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 2: think Duke is Saft's. 1065 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 3: Yes, it's the same. 1066 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,360 Speaker 4: Arizona came in pumped him with older, bigger, stronger guys. 1067 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 4: I think that's very a very easy and real kryptonite 1068 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:46,919 Speaker 4: for Duke. 1069 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why I don't think Duke's national title 1070 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 2: in like games are going to be brinded down, Like 1071 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 2: if they went up against the Houston, they would just 1072 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 2: get boldied. 1073 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:57,959 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I would agree. 1074 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 4: It's funny because I'm looking at those same post splits 1075 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 4: on them. In my Duke has been much better and 1076 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 4: slower paid. Like I think Shire wants the want of 1077 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 4: it down. Sometimes they want to slow it down, and 1078 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 4: I think they're transitioned. Desman, what's so like you think. 1079 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,720 Speaker 2: For it it's it's been, it's been hit or missing. 1080 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 2: But here's here's what it's been great. 1081 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 3: Weird. 1082 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 2: But when they played teams that are really good at 1083 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 2: getting out and running, they get shredded. 1084 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 3: The Yeah, Arizona and U n C. 1085 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 4: I think those three are like, okay, well, if you 1086 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 4: want to make a title run, you're going to play 1087 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 4: a team of that caliber in transition, Like so. 1088 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 3: I sall to Arkansas, Arkansas, Yep, yep, who wants to run? 1089 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's not really there's multiple matchup bear traps 1090 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 4: for Duke. 1091 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 2: So who's yeah, because yeah, I mean. 1092 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of to be honest, I'm out on Duke. 1093 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 4: I'm still sitting on my stupid fifteen to one way 1094 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 4: too eager summer future ticket that just doesn't look that 1095 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 4: good right now. So I'm hoping maybe they get it, 1096 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 4: like you need a dream draw to get in. 1097 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 3: That's that's all right, that'll do it for us. 1098 00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 2: Acc Pac twelve and Big twelve covered. But stuff. It's 1099 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 2: always chat, always nice chatting ball with you. Maddie, got 1100 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:10,839 Speaker 2: some you know, a couple of Powerball tickets in there, USC, Miami, UCF, 1101 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 2: some other value picks. I think Baylor is definitely worth 1102 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 2: a look in the Big twelve as far as a 1103 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 2: more reasonable future plus seven fifty. 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