WEBVTT - Investing Secrets, Mental Edge, Exit California | Jake Ducey 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.799 Everyone, Welcome to another episode of The Market Disruptor Show. 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:18.640 And I am sitting down today with one of my 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.040 good friends, Jake Doocey. Um. I've done a few videos 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:22.840 on his channel. We've gotten to know each other really well, 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.720 and I am so happy to bring him and introduce 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.080 him to you guys today. Uh, A lot of good 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:32.400 stuff we're gonna talk about. Jake, Welcome to the show. Hey, 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:36.000 thanks for having me Mark. Yeah. So you know, Jacob, 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:40.120 We've we've talked quite a bit, We've done some stuff together. UM. 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:43.520 You you have a very interesting story that I want 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:45.279 you to dig into a little bit. But I know 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:48.680 you spend a lot of time on the personal development side, 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:51.680 which is super important. UM. I talk a lot about 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:53.920 a lot of training that I've done really is about 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.960 the mental side of investing, because the mental side is 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:58.680 where we always get an edge, no matter if it's 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:01.040 sports or business or investing. So I talk a lot 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:02.600 about that, and so I'm interested to talk to you 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.800 about the mental side of that. Um. But also, UM, 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.240 you have been interviewing NonStop some of the best guys 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.520 in the industry, and so I'm interested to learn what 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:14.560 some of the secrets that you've been picking up and 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.840 then I know you're really focused on, uh specifically kind 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.480 of like mining stocks, uranium, silver, things like that. So 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.480 I want to get into some of that, some predictions 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:24.920 what you're looking at, where you think things are going. 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.400 So those are some topics that will cover. But um, 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.000 just give us a real quick backstory on your real 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.679 quick You have a pretty interesting story, which I love, 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:35.319 and just real quick. The reason why I love that 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.320 is because I believe American was built on individualism and 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.840 it's that we are two different people that makes this 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.480 country great because you have different life experiences. I have 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:48.040 different life experiences, and so it gives us um ways 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.520 to see things differently, which then means we have different 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.400 problems that we see, which means we bring different solutions. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.160 And so you definitely have a different story. So let's 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.600 let's hear it real quick. Hey, just a real quick 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:02.120 interrupt to let you know that this video is brought 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.720 to you add free by block Fire. 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So 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:29.880 you can now go and you can get the two 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.480 fifty dollars whenever you set up your account, and always 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.400 to do is just check the link in the description 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.040 for details, set up an account, super quick and easy, 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.800 and turn up to two d and fifty dollars brought 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.560 to you by block fire. So check them out. Yeah, 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.040 that was a nice way of saying I'm a weirdo, right, 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.679 Like I'm I'm interested in in so many things, right 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:53.320 and now I'm just joking. But what I was saying was, um, yeah, man, 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.080 I think that at the core, you're right. You know, 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.400 I've been in the personal development industry for the last 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.640 eight years. I when I was nineteen years old, I 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:03.960 was a freshman in economics class. My dad showed me 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.920 how the financial system worked during Thanksgiving break freshman year 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.080 of college. And his hair was like all crazy and 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.520 like he just like got red pilled into the matrix 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.320 and was like, oh my gosh, like everything I've done 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.640 and all my taxpayer money in this system I bought 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.920 into is you know, it's a frod. And so I 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:24.000 went back to class economics and I asked my teacher 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.200 why we couldn't audit the Federal Reserve, and so he 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.880 basically told me to shut up, memorize my textbook. We've 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.560 gotten like a legitimate fight in class, and everyone in 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.000 class wanted me to shut up so they could memorize 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.680 their textbook for their exam too, And so I dropped 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:41.640 out of college shortly thereafter. Kind of was very angry 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.800 about everything that was happening in the world. You know, 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.080 once I kind of woke up to it, and I 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.480 think that happens a lot when you really see how 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.440 much of a Ponzi scheme this entire financial and political 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:56.520 system is. And so I decided to drop out of college. 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.480 Everyone said it was crazy, but my dad said, you 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.720 know you should do it. This whole system you're waking up, go, 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:05.400 how you know, go? So I went in bagabond just 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:10.160 kind of cruised around and tried to discover what the 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.400 purpose of my life was about. I called the book 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.840 into the Win my six month journey wandering the world 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:16.640 for life's purpose. So I wrote that book when I 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:20.120 was like one, and Noma published it. So I self published, 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.719 but I sold twenty thou copies the first ten thousand, 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.280 largely out of the trunk of my car and grilla marketing. 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.680 I would go to every farmer's market, different day of 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.440 the week, rent tables at college campuses, and so that 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.240 was what I did for the last ten years. And 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.719 the reason that's an amazing number. Yeah, we sold a 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.599 lot of that books, man a lot. And then I 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.320 was the first motivational speaker ever on bands Warp Tour, 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.000 which was the largest running you know, you should nod 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.080 your head like you know what it is. So um yeah, 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.360 the at the time, I grew up in southern California. Yeah, 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.440 so at the time, Kevin lyman Um was my manager 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.560 at the time, and so he's the he's the owner, 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.000 or was the owner. It's not in existent anymore, but 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.000 ran for twenty five years. So I was their motivational 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.080 speaker and at my wife and I sold the books 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:05.920 all over and that was what we did. I didn't 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.520 use the internet, didn't know anything about the internet, and Um, 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.120 you know, I was in the personal development industry because 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.479 you know, once you look into the system more and 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.880 you see Edward Burnet's is kind of the father of 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:22.320 modern PR. He's the nephew of Sigmund Freud. Used Sigmund 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.520 Freud's discoveries about the subconscious to you know, create this 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.080 modern PR system. And so I believe, at the core, 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.640 basically all my anger, I was able to redirect it 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:34.160 and do kind of spiritually awakening, finding my purpose. And 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.000 I believe that when we can also wake up mentally 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.479 and we realized, we we break free from all this 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.760 conditioning of the world, you know, taught to believe we 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.800 aren't good enough, smart enough, give up all of our 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.520 authority and power to sources and things outside of ourselves. 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.520 And so that's been my focus. And then, um, my 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.280 business I went online and that took off. Main Channel's 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:58.120 got six hundred thousand subs. Personal development stuff totally different 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.800 than finance and not it's not totally different. We're going 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.600 to tie that back to together, but go ahead and 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:05.839 keep going. No, but that's it, man. And then eight 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.200 months ago, you know, I was doing all my investing 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.800 on the side, and I had this other passion. You 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.120 know that originally woke me up, which was you know, 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:18.600 macroeconomics and social politicals. Yeah, system investing commodities, and so 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:20.760 I started this channel and that's how you and I met, 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.839 you know, and it ended up taking off in the 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:27.039 last eight months. But yeah, that's kind of a long story. Yeah, 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.000 that's a great story. So it's a great story. And 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.640 so for everybody listening. You may not be into this 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.840 non non new new like personal development stuff, but listen, man, 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:37.960 it is so important as I As I said in 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.760 the intro, like the mental edge is what separates the 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.920 elite and any discipline, and so that's why I spent 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.159 a lot of time doing training for my audience on 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.040 the mental side of investing. So I want to get 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.400 into that because without it, it doesn't matter what you're doing, 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.400 you're not gonna succeed. So we'll tie that back together. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.719 But I want to go backwards real quick. You said 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.320 that your dad red pilled you, So, uh, for anyone 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.840 who doesn't know at this point, it's a matrix reference, right, 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.760 the blue or the red pill. The red pill you 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.520 see the whole world that you don't want to see, 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.640 and once you see it, you can't un see it unfortunately. Right, 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.640 that's the story that everybody tells, and I've witnessed that. 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.640 But I'm curious if you can remember what was like 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.160 what what what was it that he told you or 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.280 what was your big like epiphany if you if you 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.440 can remember like one thing or a couple of things 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.080 that were like shocking. That was that that red pill 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:27.760 moment um, the Federal Reserve and the creation of the 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.440 Federal Reserve, you know, nineteen thirteen, and the fact that 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.480 you know they essentially their private corporation that essentially as 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.960 shareholders and there you know, they're they're using it to 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:41.440 enslave the entire world, you know. And so at the 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.920 court was that and how the print print money out 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:49.080 of thin air or something? Yeah, like you said when 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.160 you did your Cambridge House International interview, what was the 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.280 title of that. It was like you said that fiat 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.480 currency has created, you know, the majority of all the 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.200 problems in the world, Like at the courts that and 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.320 it's malicious what they're doing. You know, they know this 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.680 is not you can't do this forever. They know that. 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.760 And so it was that, you know, and and at 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.680 the time it just made me angry but then that 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.480 led me to personal development and trying to find more 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.720 optimism and purpose in life. And so you know, I 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.240 think they're both important. Yeah, what's funny is, um I 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.720 have I have two daughters and my youngest is eleven. 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:25.240 But it was a couple of years ago. She might 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.360 have been nine, Um, nine or ten. Maybe we're driving 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.680 in the car and uh, my kids don't like it 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.360 when I talk about this stuff too much. They like 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.280 roll their eyes. But she was, like, she was sitting 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.080 next to me in the car front seat and I 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:38.800 was talking to her about the banking system. I was 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.079 talking to her about the photo reserve and how um 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.240 they basically print money out of thin air and the 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.280 more they print it takes value out of other people's 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.440 bank accounts and this and that, right, And she looks 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.840 over and she's like, why don't people know about this? 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.680 Like why are people okay with that? And I'm just 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.800 like it was just for her to have that epiphany 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.280 and for her to say that at nine or ten 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.600 years old, um was was pretty amazing. So uh yeah, 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.640 when you learn about the inner workings, it's pretty amazing. Right. 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:09.360 So that's that's pretty cool moment. So thanks for sharing that. So, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.000 um that led you down this path. Now you learned 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.480 about the financial system. You were in an economics class, 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.240 which is obviously to learn about money right at the economy. 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.720 But then you left money to go into personal development, 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.080 which is okay, right. I mean, that's the base of 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.520 of I guess, driving us to become better in all 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.160 areas of life. So tell me how that transition went 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:32.280 from being focused on money, being shocked about money, and 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:40.320 then going away from money. Um, you know, basically I didn't. 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.400 I knew that I didn't want to be part of 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.120 the system, and that's what I was training myself to do. 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.880 And you know, it's ten years later, it's worked out 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.440 so well with multiple businesses that have done really well 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:53.960 and leverage the internet. But it was almost like the 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.840 universe brought me to them. I just I always say 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.120 it's better to appear strange to others than to be 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.760 a stranger to yourself. And it was either, you know, 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.360 I was gonna go get do my life and just 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:09.439 do little random hustle jobs or be a yoga teacher. 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.680 I knew I didn't want to go back to school 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.520 and go I thought I was gonna major in economics, 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.160 and I don't I would go be a salesperson for 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:22.439 some company, you know, UM, And I realized that I 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.920 wanted to do the things that you know, it inspired me. 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.440 And at first it was backpacking around the world and 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.600 writing a book about it. And then you know, I 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.600 didn't know where that was leading. Like I said, no 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.800 one would publish my books. So I printed five thousand 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:41.880 copies and I filled my whole sedan up with my 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.200 boxes of books and I just sold them. And then 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:47.319 that led to selling enough where you know, I did 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.280 a ted X talk and then that led to meeting 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.560 Jack Campfield and my book agent, which led to getting 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.400 a book deal with paying in random house, which you know, 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.040 at twenty two years old, my books were like on 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.439 the shelf. And then like that led to another book, 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.800 which led to the Internet. And and I can't say 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.200 I planned it all, but I'm now looking back and 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:12.000 studying people like you and Robert Kiwasaki and all these things, 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.439 like you need to have a business to escape this 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:19.400 system in this world. Um, having um constantly being able 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:24.200 to raise your income ceiling is really essential. And then also, um, 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.240 you know, if you can have a scalable business. But 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.840 we've all that leverages the Internet. We've seen the government 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:33.360 take people's businesses away, and so that's kind of what happened. Um, 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.120 I wish I could say I was like twenty years 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.600 old and I was like, you know, the perfect way 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.720 to do your business is to do all these things 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.559 and then let you're gonna leverage youtubeen, you're gonna write books, 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:47.440 and like it just kind of happened whereas you know, 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.160 and that's why I wanted to make my new channel, was, 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:52.680 you know, to talk to people like you, guys that 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.080 have helped me. You know, let's let's let's unpack that 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.080 just a little bit, because I want there's a lesson 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.400 in here that I want everybody to get. And so 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.600 you've you've become a great investor and you talked to 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.440 some of the highest level investors in the world, and 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.199 there's a lot of information I want to get from 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.920 you on that regard. So everybody, painted everybody listening right now, 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.040 make sure you stay tuned for that. But there's a 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:13.760 lesson right here that I kind of want to unpack, 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.439 and so um we you and I we've had several 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:20.200 conversations right where, um, I see so many people coming 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.680 into my world that UM want to learn about investing, 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:24.800 that they think they can quit their job and become 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.360 a full time investor. And we've talked about how really 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.679 we need to focus on wealth creation first. Now you 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.320 did that, but you talk about it like you just 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:38.280 happened into it, right, But you didn't really write you 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.200 you were given opportunities, but you continue to take advantage 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.640 of those opportunities. People have opportunities every day that they 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.280 don't take, they don't say yes to, they don't take 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.840 advantage of. So you were like a happy, go lucky like, 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:50.600 oh I just kind of shucks, I got into this, 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.640 but not really right because you continue to push you 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.320 continue to do that. UM. I mean do you see 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.240 it that way? I mean that that's one question. The 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:01.520 second question I would say is, UM, do you see 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.040 it that it wasn't just happenstance? I mean, you were, 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.800 you know, were actively taking action on that building that out. 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.480 But also the other thing I would ask you is, UM, 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.640 you didn't know in advance that you wanted to have 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:16.000 this YouTube channel and start interviewing investors. UM, but you 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.600 were open to those opportunities of building that business out 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.560 and kind of following where those passions took you. So 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:26.839 tell me how those two things kind of came together. Yeah, 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.720 to be honest, it all came from YouTube. At first. 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.240 When I went I did all the platforms with my 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.440 personal development and my books and everything. But um, then 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.520 I started using YouTube, and you know, my main channel 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.920 got six hundred thousand subscribers in a couple of years, 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.080 and that led to millions of website visits and I 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.360 learned how it worked. And so first of all, I 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.000 would say that, you know, because then I was just 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.600 able to apply the same model over But but but 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.800 it's but it started with you, like finding something that 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.760 you had interest in or you had passion in, and 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.720 then pursuing that. Right. So I think that's where a 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.679 lot of people get stuck, is like shoot on making 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.000 fifteen bucks an hour or fifty bucks an how or 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:09.880 whatever it is, and I'm stuck. I'm in a job, 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.200 I'm a slave. I want to do something different. I 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.160 don't know what to do. And I think the lesson 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.520 here is that you didn't know that it was going 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.960 to lead to here, But you knew what you were 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.360 doing wasn't what you wanted, and so if you followed 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.120 what your interests and passions were it would lead you 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.240 to where you wanted to go. I guess that's kind 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.360 of what I'm thinking, because so many people today they're 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.960 stuck and they don't like where they're at, and they 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:35.760 and they want to change, but they don't know what 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.440 to do. And I think it always goes back to, well, 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.600 what do you want to do? Where do you spend 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:42.800 your time, where do your interests, what are your passions? 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.320 And now figure out a way to use those to 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:46.840 take you to the next level. And that's that's what 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.720 I see that you did. Am I getting that right? Yeah? 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.160 You know what always really amazed me in the working 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.920 personal development, You know, with all the all the things 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.840 that we've done, how few people actually even know what 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:01.760 they I want? And I had never asked myself that 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:03.760 question my whole life, and I think waking up to 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:05.920 the financial system and seeing a lot of what I 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:09.240 thought was true was wrong, And thus then it made 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.520 me go, well, why why the heck are we alive? 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.360 Might as well do something that you care about? And 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.440 I think it goes back to what you said is 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:20.600 individuality and thinking for ourselves. You know, it's almost become 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.120 trendy after Steve jobs said to follow your passion, and 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:27.240 is Stanford peach Stanford speech. Excuse me? There were people 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.960 that said, no, don't follow your passion. You know, that 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.680 doesn't make you any money. You have to think strategic, 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:36.240 and it's like good luck trying to like spend fifteen 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.480 years building a business that you don't have any passion 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:44.040 or interest in. Yeah, it won't work. So I think 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.520 that's that number one. You know. It was like, that's 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.080 what changed my life is asking myself, Yeah, what do 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:53.720 I really want? And it was personal development, studying psychology, 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.360 the subconscious mind. How do we have the hop how 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.600 do we have the operating system that controls our whole 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.920 life with all of our habits, How we interact with money, 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.120 what we do and do not achieve in our life, 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.600 how we think of ourselves. You know. That led me 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.960 down that rabbit hole and ended up writing books and 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.360 it turned into something. But you're right, I mean, it's 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.600 I guess step number one is we've got to reclaim 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.520 our sovereignty, right, Yeah, So I just want to nail 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.200 this topic home and then we'll move on. But so 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.200 the lesson that I'm seeing, Um, there's a show that 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.160 I'm watching with my kids right now. It's an amazing 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:27.960 show and everybody should go watch it. I might have 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.720 mentioned to you the other day Undercover Billionaire. I don't 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:32.080 know if I mentioned to you that. Yeah, you were 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.840 telling me all about it. So anybody watching this that's 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.360 interested in what we're talking about right now, just go 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.360 onto your whatever platform and just search for Undercovered Billionaire 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.040 and watch that. I'm not going to go deep into that, 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.120 but everybody should go watch it if you're interested in 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.200 creating wealth. But anyway, back to the lesson that I 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.840 want to nail down here is that one you chased 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.440 your passion. Now at individuals, we all have different passions 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.680 and we all see different problems. A couple of things 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.440 that are important with that one is that, Um, if 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.240 you're not passionate about it, as you said, you're never 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.600 going to put the amount of time in that's required. 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.040 And it's not easy to succeed in anything, and so 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.800 it requires a lot of time and effort. And if 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:10.879 you don't love it, you won't ever be able to 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:12.520 put the time and effort and required to do it. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.720 So that's why I have to start with your passion. Now, Um, 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.199 you might have a bunch of different passions. So for me, 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.680 surfing is a passion big time. I want to surf 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.159 all the time. Um, but I also love business. I 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.760 also love investing so well, even though surfings passion is 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.360 probably the best way to make money, so why don't 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:30.480 I focus on another passion that has a better path. 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:34.040 So there is some strategy there, because as humans, right, 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.080 we should have lots of interest and passions. So that's 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:37.800 that's the less that's the lesson I want to pull 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.679 out of what you're saying because it's super important. The 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.080 other thing that I would say is that a lot 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.760 of times people are waiting for that boat to come in. 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:46.600 That's the quote, right, waiting for my boat to come in. 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.280 You didn't sit around and wait for a book deal 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.439 and someone to give you money to write a book. No, 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:53.760 you went and wrote the book, put them in your 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.280 frigging trunk and drove around the country and sold them yourself. 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:58.719 And so what I love the quote is if your 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.440 boat isn't coming in, swim out and get that boat. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.720 And so that's what you did. And so that's the 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.359 lesson that I that I'm hearing, and it encourages me 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.359 and I want more people to to hear that. So 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.000 am I getting that all right? Yeah? I mean I 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.680 agree with everything you're saying. You know, I learned from 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.720 Napoleon Hills book Thinking Grew Rich. He goes through the 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:23.640 Latin definition of the word decide, and it's to kill 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:28.400 off of any other alternatives, to to kill off any 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:32.400 all other outs d side. And you know, I think 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:36.560 that's obviously life changing at least I found. And for me, 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:38.920 I was kind of thinking about what you said that 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.240 I think it just goes to a couple of things, right, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.480 you said there's numerous passions or areas of interest. It 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:48.320 might be that, um, you know, you have something that's 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:51.280 in landscaping, or it might be something in finance, or 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.560 something in massage. But then I think the next question, 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:59.000 you know, I guess to be more uh grounded in it, 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.200 is is there a sellable market in it? Um? Then 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:06.359 the next question is, are you can you ultimately um 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:10.119 sell this without directly trading your your time for money? 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:14.640