WEBVTT - Sideshow 12: Murder in Gibtown

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<v Speaker 1>This episode includes stories of domestic violence. Listener, discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 1>Death rarely stops a showman, quite the opposite. Sometimes it

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<v Speaker 1>actually encourages them. You've heard about a few sideshow stars

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<v Speaker 1>who were put on stage after they died, like Jumbo

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<v Speaker 1>the Elephant or Julia Pastrana and her child. But recently

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<v Speaker 1>it was some of the smallest oddities that caused a

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<v Speaker 1>big scandal. Pickled punks, as they were known, had long

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<v Speaker 1>been a sideshow standard, but by the nineteen seventies people

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<v Speaker 1>were reconsidering the attraction of formal the hide suspended fetuses

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<v Speaker 1>in a jar. The times were changing. You see, a

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<v Speaker 1>cultural shift was happening, and you only had to look

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<v Speaker 1>towards Gibson Town, Florida for proof. Sideshow performers have been

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<v Speaker 1>flocking to Give Town, as they call it, for decades.

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<v Speaker 1>It had been a small bit of coastal town southeast

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<v Speaker 1>of Tampa, home to fisherman and a small lumber company.

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<v Speaker 1>Grace and Eddie LeMay were the first carnival folk to

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<v Speaker 1>visit in nine, a trip spent camping and fishing. They

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<v Speaker 1>told their friends a lot of them actually, and by

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty five the town had grown by hundreds of residents,

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<v Speaker 1>many of which were from the side show. These new

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<v Speaker 1>arrivals would change the DNA of the town. Special zoning

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<v Speaker 1>laws allowed them to house and train elephants and lions

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<v Speaker 1>in their gardens. The post office had a counter low

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<v Speaker 1>enough for people with dwarf is um. The bar had

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<v Speaker 1>chairs built perfectly sized for the comfort of large ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and giants alike. Gibson Town had the air of a

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<v Speaker 1>family reunion. When performers settled back in after a long

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<v Speaker 1>season on the circuit, tongues would wag, beer would flow,

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<v Speaker 1>and babies and business deals would be made. Gibson Town

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<v Speaker 1>was their winter wonderland. It was home a refuge from

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<v Speaker 1>the prime eyes of the outside world. But as the

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<v Speaker 1>era of the American side show began to sunset, conflict

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<v Speaker 1>began to arise between two worlds, those on the inside

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<v Speaker 1>and those on the outside. The lights of the town

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<v Speaker 1>began to dim and the cracks began to show. The

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<v Speaker 1>broader world was beginning to question, reject, and outlaw much

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<v Speaker 1>of what had been part and parcel of the side show.

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<v Speaker 1>Elements that had in decades past drawn huge crowds willing

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<v Speaker 1>to part with their hard earned money the cultural institution

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<v Speaker 1>was fading, and those dollars were becoming more difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>come by. It was at this moment, amidst all of

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<v Speaker 1>this change, that the pickled Punks took center stage as

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<v Speaker 1>a flashpoint for national controversy. You see, back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't uncommon to find jarred human body parts in

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<v Speaker 1>curiosity cabinets. There was still little known about the body

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<v Speaker 1>for so long, and hungry minds wanted to know its secrets.

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<v Speaker 1>Over time, these jars made the leap from private settings

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<v Speaker 1>and into the hands of the public for tentilation and consumption,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course, for profits. But by the nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>several states had passed legislation banning transportation of human remains

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<v Speaker 1>across state lines. Soon laws were on the books that

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<v Speaker 1>eventually outlawed even the possession of them. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>where we find legendary showman and Gibson Town resident Ward Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen seventy seven, he was operating what he liked

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<v Speaker 1>to call the Freak Baby Show, and it was exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what you might imagine it to be. For seventy five cents,

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<v Speaker 1>visitors had the pleasure of viewing malformed, jarred fetuses uh

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<v Speaker 1>fish baby, a frog, boy and girl, a cyclopse baby,

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<v Speaker 1>Siamese twins. You get the idea. There were warnings attached

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<v Speaker 1>to each one suggesting that the abnormalities were a result

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<v Speaker 1>of the mother's moral failings, and it billed itself as

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<v Speaker 1>a nonprofit educational exhibit to boot Wards collection was being

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<v Speaker 1>exhibited at a county fair in Illinois by his partner C. M. Christ,

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<v Speaker 1>but the law would intervene. Police rated the exhibits and

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<v Speaker 1>confiscated the punks. CM was arrested on charges of illegal

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<v Speaker 1>possession of human remains and was questioned about where he

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<v Speaker 1>had gotten them and who they were. He would later

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<v Speaker 1>be acquitted, citing that a similar exhibit had appeared at

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago World's Fair in nineteen thirty three. But while

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<v Speaker 1>CM was set free, the punks remained in police custody.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a few weeks later, in several hundred miles to

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<v Speaker 1>the south, local police rated Wards storage facilities in Gibson Town.

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<v Speaker 1>They found two punks that had not previously been confiscated

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<v Speaker 1>in Illinois, so a warrant was issued for his arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>According to newspaper articles from the time, a total of

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<v Speaker 1>and I quote thirteen unborn babies and embryos floating in

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<v Speaker 1>jars of for malde hyde were discovered and confiscated at

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<v Speaker 1>his property, which the article described as a carnival man's backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>He was able to get the charges dropped, but similar

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<v Speaker 1>raids kicked off across the country. As these exhibits were

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<v Speaker 1>forced to close, people found themselves without livelihoods. One seized

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<v Speaker 1>collection was estimated to be worth well over one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. It was just getting harder and harder to

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<v Speaker 1>make a living in the side show. By the end

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<v Speaker 1>of that year, the issue was put to a close,

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<v Speaker 1>well sort of. On a November day, and under a

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<v Speaker 1>blue sky, a single vault was opened. People stood somberly

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<v Speaker 1>in black in the thick of that quiet, Tiny foam

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<v Speaker 1>caskets were lowered into the ground a funeral for these

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<v Speaker 1>so called carnival babies. The reverend presiding proclaimed that with

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<v Speaker 1>the burial, and I quote, we also bury the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that human life should be a grotesque spectacle, that human

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<v Speaker 1>life is cheap or to be exploited. Ironic then that

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<v Speaker 1>the funeral itself was meant to be a spectacle. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>the event was photographed and highly publicized in national newspapers.

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<v Speaker 1>They got a lot of lawmakers talking. Even in shutting

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<v Speaker 1>down these exhibits, it seems a glimpse of such specimens,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least their caskets, still attracted a lot of attention,

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<v Speaker 1>for better or for worse from the American public. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems that despite the very public outcry, we still couldn't help.

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<v Speaker 1>But look, I'm Aaron Manky and welcome to the side show.

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<v Speaker 1>Grady Styles was perched on his bar stool, content he

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<v Speaker 1>had killed a man and gotten away with it. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems that he had gotten away with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>in his life. He drained his glass down his throat

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<v Speaker 1>and felt his body grow warm. Grady had nowhere to be.

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<v Speaker 1>He had no where he wanted to be. Really, He

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<v Speaker 1>signaled for a fresh round with his claw, and the

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<v Speaker 1>bartender poured him another stiff drink. The other bar flies

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like him much. He was a mean drunk, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was also a legend. As famous as he was infamous,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a reputation that reached far beyond Florida's stormy

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<v Speaker 1>spring skies and bleak expanse of US Route forty one,

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<v Speaker 1>Gibson Town, where we find Grady Here was once a

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<v Speaker 1>spectacle itself, but by the nineteen nineties GiB Town had

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<v Speaker 1>faded in grade along with many of its stars. And

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just that some had faded, some had been

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<v Speaker 1>overshadowed by darkness. Grady Styles Jr. Had been born into

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<v Speaker 1>a sideshow family in nineteen thirty seven. His body was

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<v Speaker 1>home to extrodactyl ly, a rare congenital deformity that fused

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<v Speaker 1>his fingers into claws and gave him truncated legs that

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<v Speaker 1>ended at his knees. You see, the Styles could trace

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<v Speaker 1>their claws back generations and had become something of a

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<v Speaker 1>sideshow circuit legend. And for his family, more offspring meant

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<v Speaker 1>more dollars. The Lobster Family, as they were known, moved

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<v Speaker 1>to the Gibson Town area in n around the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Young Grady left school to join the family act. But

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<v Speaker 1>his role on stage as Lobster Boy wasn't much. He

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<v Speaker 1>just sat in a chair and waved his claws as

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<v Speaker 1>spectators when they came to see him. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly what made Grady mean, what turned him. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he was ostracized when he was small until he found

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<v Speaker 1>home in Gibb Town. There, he was just like any

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<v Speaker 1>other sideshow kid, and his family was just like everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>He often got around in a wheelchair, but just as

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<v Speaker 1>easily used his upper body strength to move across the

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<v Speaker 1>floor at an alarming speed. He grew strong and dextrous,

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<v Speaker 1>rough housing with his friends, charming the girls, and even

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<v Speaker 1>learning to fire a pistol. And like check Off, Grady

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<v Speaker 1>always liked his guns, a passion that would come back

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<v Speaker 1>to haunt him. He got married a few times and

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<v Speaker 1>started a family with one of those wives. His marriage

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<v Speaker 1>to marry Teresa had always been volatile. He ruled his

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<v Speaker 1>house with an iron claw. His wife and his children

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<v Speaker 1>were often on the receiving end of his rage, though

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<v Speaker 1>so when his eldest daughter, Donna announced at fifteen that

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<v Speaker 1>she was pregnant and marrying her bow, Grady had some

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<v Speaker 1>opinions and an idea. The day before their wedding and

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<v Speaker 1>twelve whiskey doubles later, Grady invited his future son in

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<v Speaker 1>law Jack into the house for a chat. Jack obliged

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<v Speaker 1>the last decision he would ever make. Donna was the

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<v Speaker 1>first to hear the shots ring out in a moment

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<v Speaker 1>Jack was stumbling out of the house, blood pouring from

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<v Speaker 1>his chest, and fell down right in the doorway. Grady

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<v Speaker 1>had shot him. Donna ran to him and looked up

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<v Speaker 1>to find Grady gloating. I told you I would, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Donna screamed. To his credit, Grady waited patiently

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<v Speaker 1>for the police to arrive take me. I'm ready, he

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<v Speaker 1>told them, surrendering his wrists and his gun to them.

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<v Speaker 1>He went to trial, and there he readily admitted to

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<v Speaker 1>his deed. He carried no remorse for him. This was

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<v Speaker 1>wholly inactive practicality. He simply didn't want his daughter marrying

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<v Speaker 1>that guy. The jury deliberated for three hours, and after

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<v Speaker 1>that Grady was sentenced to only fifteen years probation. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>the authorities believe that because of Grady's compounding set of

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<v Speaker 1>physical conditions cirrhosis from drinking and physema from smoking, and

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<v Speaker 1>his ectrodactually he wouldn't be able to receive the adequate

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<v Speaker 1>care behind bars. They thought keeping him locked up would

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<v Speaker 1>be cruel. He quickly skipped down and took the money

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<v Speaker 1>that he owed to his lawyer and used it to

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<v Speaker 1>assemble his own ten in one side show. But he

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be gone for long. All side show roads lead

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<v Speaker 1>back to GiB Town, after all, and that's exactly how

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<v Speaker 1>he found himself atop his familiar bar stool on that

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<v Speaker 1>humid May night. With this tab running up and the

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<v Speaker 1>night winding down, Grady closed out and took his leave.

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<v Speaker 1>He headed home to his brown trailer on Inglewood Drive,

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<v Speaker 1>his family's least favorite time of the day. They would

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<v Speaker 1>never truly grow accustomed to his inevitable drunk arrival. He

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<v Speaker 1>and Mary Teresa had been divorced at one time the

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<v Speaker 1>abuse had become too much, but at this point they

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<v Speaker 1>were one year into their second marriage to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Grady had promised to change. You see, he had managed

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<v Speaker 1>to charm her again. He had been on his best behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>and she hoped that these changes were real. But old

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<v Speaker 1>habits die hard, as they say, and within two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>of their new union, Grady had turned back into a

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<v Speaker 1>monster m It's not every day that someone gets cut

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<v Speaker 1>up and reassembled, but Mary Teresa Herzog lived for it.

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<v Speaker 1>She got her side show start as a ticket seller,

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<v Speaker 1>but soon graduated to the Zigzag Girl act, where she'd

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<v Speaker 1>while audiences by getting sliced up into thirds. But this

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<v Speaker 1>was harmless fun, after all an illusion. There was not

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<v Speaker 1>a drop of bloodshed nor any band aids needed. It

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<v Speaker 1>was off stage, though, away from the bright lights and

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<v Speaker 1>the carnival barkers, that she took on her most fearsome role.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a wife. You see, to be a woman

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<v Speaker 1>is a very dangerous thing. The statistics tell us as much.

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<v Speaker 1>Current studies say that one in four women will be

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<v Speaker 1>the victims of severe physical violence at the hands of

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<v Speaker 1>their intimate partner, one in five will experience sexual violence,

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<v Speaker 1>one in seven will be stocked, and studies tell us

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<v Speaker 1>that the presence of a gun in a domestic violent

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<v Speaker 1>situation increases the risk of homicide by five That isn't

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<v Speaker 1>to say that people who aren't women don't experience abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>They do, but the majority of the world's social and

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<v Speaker 1>economic systems have long favored cis men with female partners,

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<v Speaker 1>putting women who pair with men into vulnerable situations. We

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<v Speaker 1>can trace the precedent for men's physical domination over women

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<v Speaker 1>back to Hammarabi, back to the Koran, back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Empire, back to Old English common law that suggested

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<v Speaker 1>a lane of hands as a corrective measure. Historically, there

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<v Speaker 1>have been a lot of rules that have spelled out

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<v Speaker 1>what was allowed to go on in the home and

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on and Married Teresa's home had been

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<v Speaker 1>for years. It was something people knew but only whispered about.

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<v Speaker 1>She had been wooed by the Lobster Boy one spring

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<v Speaker 1>day in Trenton, New Jersey, back in nineteen fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Sparks flew, and their lives were set on a course

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<v Speaker 1>from which they would never turn back. If their trailer

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<v Speaker 1>was Gradi's castle, it was married Teresa's prison. It was

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<v Speaker 1>here she both labored to raise a family and to

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<v Speaker 1>protect them from their father. She loved him fiercely at times,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can wonder if he loved her too. What

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<v Speaker 1>we do know is that he wanted to control her,

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<v Speaker 1>a desire exercise through his use of fists and threats

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<v Speaker 1>to kill again. But this time he threatened that it

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<v Speaker 1>would be her. So when Grady ambled home from the

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<v Speaker 1>bar that night sufficiently inebriated and agitated, Mary, Teresa and

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<v Speaker 1>their daughter Cathy found themselves directly in his line of fire. Kathy,

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<v Speaker 1>also born with extrodacty ly and seven months pregnant, had

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<v Speaker 1>long positioned herself as the protector of her mother. She

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have continued to stay with the sideshow if not

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<v Speaker 1>for the need to keep her mother safe. Unprovoked, Grady

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<v Speaker 1>flew into a whiskey soaked rage. He started beating Mary Teresa.

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<v Speaker 1>Kathy tried to intervene from her wheelchair, yelling that her

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<v Speaker 1>father preferred the bottle to his family, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>turned his anger on her. Grady started in on her heart,

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<v Speaker 1>pummeling her in the arms, the jaw, and eventually knocking

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<v Speaker 1>her around so much that she fell from her chair.

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<v Speaker 1>The fleshy thuds knocked the wind from Cathy's lungs and

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<v Speaker 1>felt like hammer is coming down on her bones. The

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<v Speaker 1>pain was white and blinding, the shocks reverberating through her

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<v Speaker 1>entire skeleton. She fought back, of course, but nothing could

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<v Speaker 1>be done until Grady decided that he was finished. Kathy

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<v Speaker 1>barely slept after the attack that night. She didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>anything about the pain until she started hemorrhaging. The next morning.

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<v Speaker 1>She rushed to the hospital. Kathy told the doctor who

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<v Speaker 1>performed her emergency c section that she had simply fallen

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<v Speaker 1>out of her wheelchair. Did he believe her Probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>The baby's placenta had separated from the umbilical cord and

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<v Speaker 1>Cathy's water had broken as a result of the violence.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby Misty came into the world on May six, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was healthy, and she too was born with lobster claws.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to know exactly when Mary Teresa decided that

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<v Speaker 1>enough was enough. What we do know, though, is that

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<v Speaker 1>there was an immense amount of courage and strength that

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<v Speaker 1>it took on the part of both of these him

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<v Speaker 1>in to stand up for each other in the face

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<v Speaker 1>of such terror. After decades of torment, of living in

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<v Speaker 1>a vortex of violence, with bloodshed just as likely as tears,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Teresa knew at some point that this had to end,

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<v Speaker 1>and she didn't want to be the one who went first.

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<v Speaker 1>It all culminated on a fairly normal day, as the

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<v Speaker 1>most pivotal moments of our lives often due. It was

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<v Speaker 1>November and the Styles family was back home in give

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<v Speaker 1>Town and ready to settle in for a quiet winter.

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Teresa and her teenage son Glenn, decided to make

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<v Speaker 1>an evening visit to Kathy and Misty, who are living

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<v Speaker 1>just across the way. The child was too, by now

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<v Speaker 1>small and mighty, toddling around and just beginning to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with her own opinions about life. They were all

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<v Speaker 1>together in Cathy's trailer when the sound of gunshots split

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<v Speaker 1>the night for just a few moments. The crickets and

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<v Speaker 1>bullfrogs were stunned into silence. Everyone looked at each other,

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<v Speaker 1>their pulses quickening. There was a chill in the air

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<v Speaker 1>where there hadn't been before. Some quick thinking neighbors called

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<v Speaker 1>the cops. Mary, Teresa, and Glenn ran back in the

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<v Speaker 1>direction of the sounds. Their home. The trailer's sliding glass

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<v Speaker 1>door was a jar. In light from the living room

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<v Speaker 1>spilled onto the concrete outside. The stench of whiskey and

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<v Speaker 1>cigarettes lay thick, a smell that was now mingled with

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<v Speaker 1>the acrid, metallic odor of blood and brain matter. And there,

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<v Speaker 1>slumped over in his brown armchair was Grady Styles Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>Dead from not one but three gunshot wounds to the head.

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<v Speaker 1>His reign of terror had finally come to an end,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had gone out wearing only his boxer briefs.

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<v Speaker 1>All was quiet in the house. The police arrived, quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>securing the perimeter and confirming that Grady Jr. Was in fact, very,

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<v Speaker 1>very dead. Then they began interviewing everyone in the immediate vicinity.

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<v Speaker 1>They deduced that nothing was stolen and there was no

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<v Speaker 1>sign of a struggle. A neighbor said that he had

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<v Speaker 1>seen a shadowy figure run from the trailer shortly after

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<v Speaker 1>hearing the gun go off. How far could the perpetrator

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten on foot? Mary, Teresa, Glenn, and Cathy stood

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<v Speaker 1>obediently and answered questions, but the police thought something was off. Oddly,

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<v Speaker 1>they all seemed fine, so fine in fact, that the

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<v Speaker 1>detectives took notice. Yes, shock does interesting things to a person,

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<v Speaker 1>but this just felt a little strange. It wasn't long

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<v Speaker 1>until members of the family were brought down to the

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<v Speaker 1>station for more official questioning. Glenn was the first to

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<v Speaker 1>take a lie detector test about the whole affair, and

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<v Speaker 1>with the childlike innocence, was eager to do. Well, then

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<v Speaker 1>can you blame him? When the detectives revealed that he

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<v Speaker 1>had failed some questions, mostly those referring to his knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>about Grady's killing, he crumbled. They soon wore him down

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<v Speaker 1>and he signed away his rights to have a lawyer present,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the confession came spilling out. He talked about

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<v Speaker 1>Gradie's abuse of his mom, how he was always threatening

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<v Speaker 1>to kill her and get it over with. They just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't take it any longer. Mary Teresa had devised away

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<v Speaker 1>to finally teach him a lesson. Gradie the third, who

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<v Speaker 1>was asleep in the back bedroom of the trailer when

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<v Speaker 1>all of this took place, later stated that his mother's

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<v Speaker 1>only intention was to hire someone to scare his father,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe just rough him up a little. What we

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<v Speaker 1>know now, though, was that Chris Wyant, a neighborhood punk,

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<v Speaker 1>took the job for a cool fifteen hundred dollars. Mary Teresa, Glenn,

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<v Speaker 1>and Chris all got their separate days in court in

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<v Speaker 1>January of n It was ruled that Chris was guilty

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<v Speaker 1>of conspiracy in the first degree and murder in the second.

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Teresa's trial began that July, with heart wrenching testimony

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<v Speaker 1>spilling into the pages of the newspaper. My husban been

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<v Speaker 1>was going to kill my family, she testified, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that from the bottom of my heart. Her attorney attempted

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<v Speaker 1>to use the battered spouse defense, a position never before

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<v Speaker 1>tried in Florida in a murder for higher case. Tears

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<v Speaker 1>rolled down her cheeks as she was sentenced to twelve

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<v Speaker 1>years in prison. On first degree murder charges. Glenn, who

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<v Speaker 1>was on trial for hiring Chris, received a life sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could tell you something different. We all

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<v Speaker 1>love a happy ending, a story that can tie neatly

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<v Speaker 1>into a bow, but this isn't one of those. It

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<v Speaker 1>was probably never going to be one. This situation was

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<v Speaker 1>one of true horror. But maybe in what happened, we

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<v Speaker 1>find the lesser of all the evils. Through the death

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<v Speaker 1>of one of them, there would be something a bit

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<v Speaker 1>closer to peace for everyone else. The same year that

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<v Speaker 1>all of this happened, President Bill Clinton signed the Violence

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<v Speaker 1>Against Women Act into law. It allocated over one point

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<v Speaker 1>six billion dollars towards the investigation and prosecution of violent

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<v Speaker 1>crimes against women. The initiative was the result of the

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<v Speaker 1>feminist movement's collective grassroots efforts, work that had spanned decades.

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<v Speaker 1>Even still, disconcerting attitudes towards domestic violence have long determined

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<v Speaker 1>how we govern ourselves within the walls of our homes.

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<v Speaker 1>Some may want to leave, but can't for any number

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<v Speaker 1>of reasons of dependency, stubborn commitment, cultural pressure, or just

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<v Speaker 1>plain fear. Community leaders and police officers have been known

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<v Speaker 1>to counsel people to try to make abusive situations work,

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<v Speaker 1>even though the lives at hand might be in imminent danger.

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<v Speaker 1>The Violence Against Women Act signaled the beginning of a

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<v Speaker 1>shift in society. But as we know, gargantuan ships take

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<v Speaker 1>a long time to change course in rough waters, and

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<v Speaker 1>we are still so far from our desk a nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Grady Styles Jr. Was buried in the local showman cemetery.

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<v Speaker 1>The story goes that he was so widely disliked that

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<v Speaker 1>they had a hard time finding anyone who was willing

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<v Speaker 1>to be a pall bearer. That's in the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>a large part of his family was being tried for murder.

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<v Speaker 1>And when pall bearers were finally located, the story tells

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<v Speaker 1>us that the concession was that they would only do

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<v Speaker 1>the job if they could handle it with a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of flare, with lobster claw mittens on their hands.

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<v Speaker 1>To be precise, A bouquet of flowers sat atop his

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<v Speaker 1>coffin a pretty site amidst this final inflection point of

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<v Speaker 1>a decade's long tragedy, and anyone present, whether they be

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<v Speaker 1>mourner or gawker, would have been able to see the

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<v Speaker 1>words printed across their banner from your loving wife. This

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<v Speaker 1>was a heavy story. I think I can speak for

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<v Speaker 1>all of us here at grim and Mild when I

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<v Speaker 1>say that this episode has us hugging our families a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit closer today. If you are someone you love

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<v Speaker 1>is struggling at home right now, we've included resource links

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<v Speaker 1>in the episode description. Now I have something new for you,

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<v Speaker 1>something different, a look at what's ahead coming from the

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<v Speaker 1>contemporary world of the Side Show with my co producers

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<v Speaker 1>Robin Miniter and Taylor Haggerdorn. Stick around through this brief

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<v Speaker 1>sponsor break to hear all about it. Wow, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a doozy of an episode. He really was. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've encountered some dark stories over the course of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really easy to remove ourselves from them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just to think that they are tales of yesteryear, that

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<v Speaker 1>these things took place a long time ago, maybe back

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<v Speaker 1>at a time where we weren't so knowledgeable or we

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<v Speaker 1>weren't so enlightened. But in meeting Grady and a say

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<v Speaker 1>only we can understand that we really aren't that far

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<v Speaker 1>removed from this history. None of this took place that

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<v Speaker 1>long ago, and the Side Show might be harder to

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<v Speaker 1>find these days. But it's ghosts, it's still lingers. You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>well said, but I would move that beyond being a

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<v Speaker 1>ghost right into this very real, very present force. It

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<v Speaker 1>really surprised me. I think it surprised you too. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when we started this, it was chronological, and we had

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<v Speaker 1>to start with Barnum, right, We had to reckon with this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I certainly didn't predict that we'd end up with

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<v Speaker 1>this new and yet similar kind of darkness with Grady.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Grady in the nineties wasn't the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the side your story. That's right, you know. That brings

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<v Speaker 1>us right up to the present. And I actually have

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<v Speaker 1>one more Grady Styles adjacent story for our listeners. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear it, absolutely please? All right? So Styles

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<v Speaker 1>family legacy still felt in Gibsonton, you know, people are

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<v Speaker 1>not and to forget what happened that easily. However, today

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<v Speaker 1>I've been Philly in a place that's far removed from

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<v Speaker 1>give town and time and place. Uh. There's a gal

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<v Speaker 1>named Kim Kelly who remembers the infamous side show Lobster

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<v Speaker 1>Boy in her own way. When I was looking back

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<v Speaker 1>through history trying to find other people that were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lobster boys, lobster girls all rose kind of lead to

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<v Speaker 1>gratty styles. So Kim she had a personal reason to

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<v Speaker 1>go looking. She's a writer, she's an organizer, and she

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<v Speaker 1>just happens to be someone else who was born with extrodectilly.

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<v Speaker 1>So for her, that means some of her fingers on

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<v Speaker 1>one hand are fused together. But growing up she knew

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<v Speaker 1>that her handmade her a little bit different, but actually

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't make that much difference in her life. And

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<v Speaker 1>she'll tell you this. Once I learned how to paint

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<v Speaker 1>my nails like it's fine, and I'm still pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>a painting my nails as long as I have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>cute tip with polished mover. But everyone needs that. She

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<v Speaker 1>walked through life pretty nonplused, and so much so that

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't just not care about what people thought, but

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<v Speaker 1>she actively embraced things that were pretty offbeat, and she

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<v Speaker 1>feels she's always had the confidence just to do her

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<v Speaker 1>own thing, especially when I was like a cute little

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>fourteen year old girl, too much eyeliner and like long

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<v Speaker 1>blonde hair, Like I think there are other things that

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<v Speaker 1>stood out to people more than like me, missing fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>But not too long ago something happened that made her

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<v Speaker 1>see her limb difference in an entirely new way. Who interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me more? Okay, so a few years ago, she

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<v Speaker 1>thought she was just headed out on another job, just

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<v Speaker 1>another writing assignment, as she want to do well. What

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<v Speaker 1>she found when she got there ended up being something

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<v Speaker 1>far more profound. I wrote the story, and I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed people, and you know I didn't. I did the work,

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<v Speaker 1>but it became much more of a personal journey. Such

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<v Speaker 1>a silly word. But they had switched from professional to

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<v Speaker 1>personal real quick. And so because of this, and for

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<v Speaker 1>many other reasons, she's going to be a guest on

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<v Speaker 1>our next and last episode. I mean, actually have one

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<v Speaker 1>more person we want to introduce to our cool cat listeners, right, yes, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll get to meet our new friend, Dr Bob Thompson.

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<v Speaker 1>By day, he's a mass media scholar at Syracuse University.

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<v Speaker 1>I will confess right now that I have watched The

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor from the very beginning, and I will also confess

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<v Speaker 1>that I get some pleasure out of watching that heinous

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<v Speaker 1>little odd men. But by night he's watching more TV

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<v Speaker 1>than anyone I've ever met, including you, Robin, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know that because you have my Hulu passwords. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for that. But that said jabs aside, So Taylor, what

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<v Speaker 1>does TV have to do with the side show anyways?

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's a damn good question, isn't it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the business of asking questions. You are, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're in look because you will soon find out that

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Thompson has all sorts of answers for us. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got this really powerful, too som in store for

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<v Speaker 1>the listeners, don't we. Do you think they're curious enough

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<v Speaker 1>to stick around for one last episode? Well, as you

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<v Speaker 1>could also say, certain intellectual curiosity can kill a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more than cats. Stop it. We can't scare them away.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just telling them how excited I was, so

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to be. You're here, listen, listen. We're actually doing

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what all the sideshow goers used to do. Following

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<v Speaker 1>our noses, We're moving closer, you know, within a safe

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<v Speaker 1>distance to our curiosity. So you know, it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>get up close and personal with some of our lingering

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<v Speaker 1>questions about where the side show is headed next. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sold. Let's go right on while see you back

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<v Speaker 1>here in two weeks, same time, same place, for one

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<v Speaker 1>last look at the side show. Side Show was written

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<v Speaker 1>by Robin Minat with narration by me Aaron Mankey Reese.

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<v Speaker 1>Search for the series was by Robin Mineter, Taylor Haggard, RN,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sam Alberty, with production assistants from Josh Than, Jesse Funk,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Williams, and Matt Frederick. Grim and Mile Presents was

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<v Speaker 1>created in partnership with I Heart Radio. You can learn

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<v Speaker 1>more about this show and everything else from Grim and

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<v Speaker 1>mild Over at Grim and mild dot com and, as always,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for listening. M