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Speaker 2: play of the day, stat of the day, all of

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Speaker 2: that forthcoming. Let me start with the Niners in the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: because I thought Philadelphia maybe can flip the switch and

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Speaker 2: make a run. They still have the talent, might be

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Speaker 2: the most balanced team in the playoffs. And then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, I kept watching, and I kept waiting

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Speaker 2: and then waiting, and the Niners didn't go away, and

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Speaker 2: I said that this might be Kyle Shanahan's best coaching

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Speaker 2: job because they're depleted. You know, when Kyle Uscheck is

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Speaker 2: your go to wide receiver, boy, that tells you a

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Speaker 2: whole lot about your weapons. You lose Kittle, there's no

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Speaker 2: Brandon Ayyuk, no Ricky Piersoll. The defense is banged up.

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Speaker 2: And this was about rock Perty making plays in tough conditions,

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Speaker 2: Kristy McCaffery still proving that how do you need me

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Speaker 2: to get this done? Or get it done somehow? And

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Speaker 2: you know, I use the expression or term or phrase

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Speaker 2: game manager, and it's not a negative because the great

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks manage a game like what do I need to do?

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Speaker 2: When do I need to do it? Tom Brady was

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Speaker 2: a game manager, so the greatest player in NFL history,

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Speaker 2: the most decorated, was a game manager. It's a compliment

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Speaker 2: because you know how to It's like Greg Maddick's pitching.

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Speaker 2: He knew how to manage a game when he was pitching.

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Speaker 2: You know a lot of great players, a lot of

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Speaker 2: great pitchers do this, a lot of great quarterbacks do this.

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Speaker 2: And I watched rock Perty. He did what he needed

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Speaker 2: to do when he needed to do it. It's not

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Speaker 2: always pretty, but I don't care. It's playoff football. I

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Speaker 2: need a win, that's it. Just ask the Green Bay

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Speaker 2: Packers you need a win, you know, just ask Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen doing what he did or Matthew Stafford doing what

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Speaker 2: he did. It's managing the moment. And that's what playoff

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Speaker 2: football is all about. And rock Perty, you know, you're

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Speaker 2: trying to live up to a two hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: five million dollar contract and he's not paid for box

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Speaker 2: score bravado. It's you got to make, you know, something memorable.

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Speaker 2: You got to make something happen when you lose Kittle,

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of the heart and soul of this

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Speaker 2: team out with an achilles injury, and somehow you win

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Speaker 2: on the road in Philadelphia. Now did Philadelphia contribute to this?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely kind of mind boggling where Saquon looks like he's

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Speaker 2: of a sudden he's not doing much After that got

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Speaker 2: banged up. AJ Brown got pick up a white courtesy phone.

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Speaker 2: You'll be on a different team next year. You'll get

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Speaker 2: your wish. You can play someplace else. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if Nick Siriani's on the hot seat. I will say

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Speaker 2: if he's not on the hot seat now, he'll be

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Speaker 2: on the hot seat next year. Jalen Hurts is not

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Speaker 2: a guy you say, let's beat them through the air

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Speaker 2: and not running that much. That was kind of eye

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Speaker 2: I kept saying, if you leave them in this game,

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Speaker 2: I'd love Jalen Hurts in the playoffs, but I can't

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Speaker 2: at the point spreads. The Niners are getting seven at Seattle.

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Speaker 2: But Josh Allen did it again. Uh in the Rams.

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Speaker 2: and uh, Matthew Stafford and the Rams, they're heading down

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Speaker 2: they need to go ahead touchdown. And I love what

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you said, let's go snatch these guys' hearts.

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Speaker 4: That was pretty cold. That was pretty cold just to

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Speaker 4: and to hear him say that and looking his on

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Speaker 3: Pretty good. Let's go rip their heart up, go snatch

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And Carolina, if I know, having a lot in

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Speaker 2: But of all the teams that lost, if I'm Carolina,

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Speaker 2: couple of years. But they played hard, they played with passion,

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Speaker 2: would say now there, if I'm a Packer fan today,

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Speaker 2: I don't feel good at all. Because I have no

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Speaker 3: This is why it was so seismic.

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Speaker 2: Then the Ravens decided to move on from John Harbaugh

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Speaker 2: going to get somebody else. Somebody else might be losing

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's connect the dots and there's a game

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Speaker 2: of dominoes going on here and Harball, I guess he's

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Speaker 2: this week. The Giants would be up top on the list.

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Speaker 2: And is Green Bay going to be open for business?

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Speaker 2: What's going to happen if Pittsburgh loses tonight? And that's

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Speaker 2: another thing where we go, Man, that's the guy you

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Speaker 2: want to put you over the top. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if John Harbaugh puts you over the top in Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Mike Tomlin. If they don't do

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Speaker 2: us over the top. And I'm not a cheerleader for

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Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur. I like him, but it felt like there's

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Speaker 2: a nice a nice guy, and maybe that's part of

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Speaker 2: the problem. Now Ben Johnson has he gives zero you

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Speaker 2: know what. He doesn't apologize for anything, and you know,

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Speaker 2: give credit to him and the Bears when they were

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Speaker 2: down at halftime, and I think Bears fans probably started,

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Speaker 2: was like, this is going to be painful. It's twenty

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Speaker 2: one to three. Let's ease the pain. And Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: giveth he taketh away. You talk about splash plays, you

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Speaker 2: wow plays in the fourth quarter, and that includes Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen because there are some throws that Caleb makes where

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Speaker 2: who can make those throws. It's him being consistent. And

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff through three quarters. He can be Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. But the Bears, you know, they

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Speaker 2: it and did not look back. Here is Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 2: the Bears head coach, on the fourth quarter comeback.

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Speaker 6: It's our identity here at this point, and some people

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Speaker 6: say it's not sustainable. I don't know. You know, it's

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Speaker 6: the takeaways. You know, that's who we are on defense,

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Speaker 6: and you know on offense, it's explosive plays. That's kind

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Speaker 6: in big moments and as a team, it's just just

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Speaker 6: resiliency and knowing that late in the fourth quarter, that's

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Speaker 6: that's really when we're at our best as a football team.

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Speaker 2: And Brandon McManus, mister McManus, that one hurt. He missed

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Speaker 2: extra point two field goals. There here is the Bears

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Speaker 2: radio network, Caleb Williams to DJ Moore.

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Speaker 7: Caleb and a gun swipped to his left snap back

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Speaker 7: four man Ross Caleb with a double wolf drug down left.

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Speaker 3: Side like DJ Barnes.

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Speaker 7: Are the five heads one touchdown touchdown Bears.

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Speaker 1: They've taken the lead on the Packers.

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Speaker 8: Put one thirty three to go twenty five yards the

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Speaker 8: same connection week sixteen, he walk off win this connection

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Speaker 8: HU three pointly.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those who stayed had a lot to cheer about

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Speaker 2: there in the fourth quarter because that offense was pretty

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Speaker 2: dry in the first half. But Green Bay losing again

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Speaker 2: to the Bears. These double digit fourth quarter leads, that's rough.

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Speaker 2: That's rough, all right, Seaton. Let's poll question for the

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Speaker 2: first hour the program. I got a couple options here

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Speaker 2: for you. Winning team that should be worried worried? Yes, Rams, Bears, Bills,

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers, Patriots forty nine ers should probably be worried.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're at a point where they worry

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Speaker 2: like the Rams, Like, if you're supposed to win, I

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Speaker 2: got the Niners are seven point underdogs, so I don't

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Speaker 2: know if they would worry. Uh yeah, that's tricky.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paulin.

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Speaker 7: As a Bears fan, I'm perpetually worried.

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Speaker 3: You go into the game.

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Speaker 7: Completely worried and nervous because you know your team probably

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Speaker 7: isn't going to do much in the second half and

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Speaker 7: you got to steal it, so you go in worried

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Speaker 7: no matter who you're facing.

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Speaker 3: I didn't believe.

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Speaker 3: And they should have won the game. You're at home,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Pauli, the Chargers hit I'm sorry, the Patriots hit

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens.

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Speaker 2: of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. What do you expect

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Speaker 2: to happen tonight?

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Speaker 12: I expect to be really cold, Dan. I think it's

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Speaker 12: a high of thirty seven. I am planning and plotting

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Speaker 12: out how many layers I'm gonna be wearing right now?

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Speaker 2: Is there a chance you have a jacket or coat

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Speaker 2: that's similar to what Aaron Andrews was wearing yesterday.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't, and in fact, I haven't even talked

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Speaker 12: I usually wear this like bright orange ski jacket because

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Speaker 12: I try to get as.

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Speaker 5: Much TV time as possible.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's I'm trying to amuse myself Dan, right, So

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Speaker 12: Ross Tucker NFL. So you see what I'm wearing because

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Speaker 5: Immediately go over there try to help them up to

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Speaker 3: Dan.

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Speaker 5: For the brand, it's important, you know.

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Speaker 2: Is Mike Tomlin I don't want to say is he

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Speaker 3: Do you get that?

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Speaker 12: Since thousand percent? Okay, I think that win against the

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Speaker 12: I think that there's a chance maybe he'll think.

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Speaker 5: It's time to move on. I tend to doubt it.

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Speaker 12: I feel like they're going to probably bring back Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: Well, your Eagles at home, with all of that talent,

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Speaker 2: are staying at home for the playoffs. How surprised were you?

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Speaker 12: You know, it's funny that you ask it in that way,

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Speaker 5: Year, you know.

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Speaker 12: I guess I thought Dan they had rested their guys.

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Speaker 5: Crap out of them up front, both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 12: It just kind of felt like the Eagles with that

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Speaker 5: I thought they'd win the game.

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Speaker 12: I thought there was a chance they would kind of

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Speaker 5: And they still lost the game.

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Speaker 5: For the Eagles. You know, Dan, you've been doing this

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Speaker 5: I think there will be a decent amount of changes. Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I mean, if you think about it, a couple of

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Speaker 5: It feels like it's run its course, with aj Brown,

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Speaker 12: They know that this was a big, big, missed opportunity

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Speaker 3: What do you think happens in Green Bay?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 12: I've never understood why players going to last year their

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Speaker 12: injury risk. But these organizations are so afraid. It's pretty

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Speaker 12: clear that there's a little bit of consternation there with

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Speaker 12: Lafleur's lack of playoff success, and so to give him

437
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Speaker 12: some new deal for fifteen to twenty million dollars a

438
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Speaker 12: year for four years, that doesn't really make sense to me.

439
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Speaker 12: I mean, it's pretty clear that they want to see

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Speaker 12: more results. Let him coach out the last year. Let

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Speaker 12: him coach out the last year. When's the last time

442
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Speaker 12: a coach was on a last year of his contract

443
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Speaker 12: it went unbelievably well, he was a free agent, and

444
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Speaker 12: then he went somewhere else.

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Speaker 5: That doesn't happen. That's not a thing.

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Speaker 2: But you got the John Harbaugh question. So that's the curveball.

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Speaker 2: With all of these openings and even openings that aren't open,

448
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Speaker 2: potential openings, where do you think John Harball is going

449
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Speaker 2: to end up?

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Speaker 12: Ooh, you know, I think there's it's very it was

451
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Speaker 12: very intentional that he wanted to see wait till this

452
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Speaker 12: week to take any interviews because I think he believed

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Speaker 12: that if Buffalo lost, maybe that one would have opened up,

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Speaker 12: and that if Green Bay, you know, there would be

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Speaker 12: the potential there.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't sound like that's.

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Speaker 12: Gonna happen, but you know, there still could be a

458
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Speaker 12: mutual parting of the ways there between the Packers and

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Speaker 12: Matt Lafleur, where if those contract discussions don't go as

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Speaker 12: well as they would like.

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Speaker 5: So, I think those would have been the two.

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Speaker 12: That he would have strongly considered the most, just because

463
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Speaker 12: you know, he's in this thing now to try to

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Speaker 12: win Super Bowls.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's made a ton of money.

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Speaker 12: He's been doing it a long time, and those are

467
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Speaker 12: the two that would give him the best chance to

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Speaker 12: do that.

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Speaker 5: Other than that, it becomes fascinating.

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Speaker 12: How does he feel about Jackson Dart, How does he

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Speaker 12: feel about cam Ward? I mean, how's he feel about

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Speaker 12: the Cleveland situation. I guess if he went to Cleveland,

473
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Speaker 12: that would give him the opportunity to I don't know,

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Speaker 12: stick it to the Ravens, if that's something he wants.

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Speaker 5: To do, I don't know.

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Speaker 12: You know, it's a big difference between where he's been

477
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Speaker 12: and where he's going to go because he's going to

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Speaker 12: go to a team that it's going to be kind

479
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Speaker 12: of like a rebuild for hardball, and he never really

480
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Speaker 12: had that when he went to Baltimore. They had Ray

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Speaker 12: lu and Ed Reid and all these guys, and they made.

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Speaker 5: The playoffs that first year.

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Speaker 12: We've never really seen John Harball have to take a

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Speaker 12: bad team, you know, from the bottom, and grow them

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Speaker 12: up to being a playoff caliber team.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know.

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Speaker 12: I guess we'll find out if that's where he lands

488
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Speaker 12: with one of them, whether or not he can even

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Speaker 12: do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I brought up you know, do you

491
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Speaker 2: go to Tennessee because you have a franchise quarterback and

492
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Speaker 2: you got cap room. But as you said, you know

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Speaker 2: that's a process, that's a couple of years. And does

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Speaker 2: he have the patience to build something? You know, when

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Speaker 2: when Jim Harball was in the NFL, he had the

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Speaker 2: Niners with a lot of talent, took him to a

497
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Speaker 2: super Bowl even with the Chargers. You don't jump to

498
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Speaker 2: another or go to another job unless you go can

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Speaker 2: I succeed? How long will it take to be formidable?

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Speaker 2: Can we win a Super Bowl? And you bring up

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Speaker 2: something great? He would love to add another super Bowl

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Speaker 2: there or at least compete for it. But I go

503
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Speaker 2: back to, and I keep saying this over and over,

504
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Speaker 2: is is he the kind of coach who gets you

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Speaker 2: over the hump, Like how many coaches get a two

506
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Speaker 2: time MVP but don't do much with them.

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Speaker 12: Well, and what's so wild about that is that if

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Speaker 12: Lamar won the MVP last year, like a lot of

509
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Speaker 12: people thought he should, he'd be.

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Speaker 5: A three time MVP with three playoff wins.

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Speaker 12: That's the thing that I think is puzzling about Harball

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Speaker 12: Dan he won ten playoff games with Joe Flacco. Now

513
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Speaker 12: they had a really good defense. Okay, multiple Hall of famers,

514
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Speaker 12: we know, especially those first couple of years for Flaco,

515
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Speaker 12: not as much, you know, when they won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 12: So Harpball has proven that he can win at the

517
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Speaker 12: highest level when he won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, he's not gonna feel so it feels

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Speaker 3: like Lamar gets the blame, not John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 12: I think you're right, and there's a reason for that.

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Speaker 12: It's because Harball had already won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

523
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Speaker 5: It's like we all have these boxes we check.

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Speaker 2: So if Toland doesn't have a Super Bowl, he's probably

525
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Speaker 2: not the coach in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 12: I think that's probably true. Although they've had three coaches

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Speaker 12: since nineteen sixty nine. You know they operate different than

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Speaker 12: any other franchise.

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Speaker 2: But if I say to a Steeler fan base, hey,

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Speaker 2: you're not going to win playoff games, but you're going

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Speaker 2: to be in the playoffs the next ten years with

532
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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin, the farthest you'll go is you'll win one

533
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Speaker 2: playoff game a year a couple of times. Do you

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Speaker 2: think that Steeler fans are signing up for another ten

535
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Speaker 2: and seven ninety eight barely make the playoffs and you're

536
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Speaker 2: non threatening in the host season?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not okay, But they have I live.

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Speaker 12: In central Pennsylvania. I'm close friends with a bunch of

539
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 12: Steelers fans. Then there were Steelers fans that wanted them

540
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Speaker 12: to lose to Baltimore because they're.

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Speaker 5: So fatigued with Tomlin.

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Speaker 12: They're so sick of this a little bit better than mediocrity.

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Speaker 12: They they they're they're ready for a change. There's no question.

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Speaker 2: Patriots and the Chargers. Patriots, you know, did just enough.

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Speaker 2: You know, justin Herbert As if he didn't know that

546
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Speaker 2: he didn't have a good offensive line, he was reminded

547
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Speaker 2: that he doesn't have a good offensive line. But the

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Speaker 2: Patriots are doing it with a defense that is kind

549
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Speaker 2: of nondescript. It doesn't mean that they didn't they don't

550
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Speaker 2: have talent there or they didn't spend money. It's just

551
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Speaker 2: they don't have those big names that we've seen before.

552
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Speaker 3: So they how do they go to the Super Bowl?

553
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Speaker 12: Probably somewhat similar to what they did last night, you know.

554
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 12: And then they got to get Christian Zalas back because

555
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 12: he's their best defensive player. And I thought Milton Williams

556
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Speaker 12: stepped up, which they really needed. But it's gonna be

557
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Speaker 12: Drake May ultimately, not just his arm, but his legs.

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Speaker 12: I thought Collinsworth made a really good point early in

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Speaker 12: the game last night when he talked about the quarterback

560
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Speaker 12: that ran it better, you know, would ultimately be the

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Speaker 12: team that won. That was a major factor in the game.

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Speaker 12: And by the way, Dan very surprised that Jalen Hurts

563
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Speaker 12: did not run it more for Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: But that's been the whole year. I mean, he's he

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Speaker 2: averaged like ten attempts this year, just over six. That

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Speaker 2: seems by design or by choice.

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Speaker 12: Yeah no, And think about like think about watching the

568
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Speaker 12: Bills Jags, and think about Josh Allen when it really

569
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Speaker 12: comes down to it, and what he does with his

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Speaker 12: legs and the immense.

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Speaker 5: Advantage that is for the bills and you don't see that.

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Speaker 5: It's funny.

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Speaker 12: I was struck watching Herbert last night that he's sort

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Speaker 12: of like he's like a poor man's Josh Allen. He's big,

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Speaker 12: strong arm, can run. And I love Justin Herbert, but Dan,

576
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Speaker 12: Josh Allen makes the plays in the critical games more

577
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Speaker 12: often than not.

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Speaker 5: Herbert doesn't. It's like he's what are the kids called.

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Speaker 12: He's like store brand Josh Allen. You know, it's like

580
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Speaker 12: he's there. They're very, very similar, except Allen comes through

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Speaker 12: and makes the plays at a much higher percentage than

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Speaker 12: Herbert when physically they're.

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Speaker 5: Almost mirror images of each other. It's fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I asked Jim Harball this year and I

585
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Speaker 2: asked Justin Herbert, are you going to run more? Because

586
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Speaker 2: we saw that at Oregon, we saw that in the

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Speaker 2: Rose Bowl. He does have that ability. It's almost it

588
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Speaker 2: feels like Josh Allen knows when he's going to run.

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert is kind of in the moment ready to run.

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Speaker 5: That's a terrific point.

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Speaker 12: It feels like Josh Allen sometimes decides before the play,

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Speaker 12: and it feels like Josh Allen wills him stuff. I

593
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Speaker 12: think he's a little heavier than Herbert, a little bit

594
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Speaker 12: more agile, and I think he's a little bit faster.

595
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Speaker 12: But it's just that little difference that is the difference.

596
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Speaker 12: Josh Allen can put on Superman's cape more off than

597
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Speaker 12: Herbert can.

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Speaker 2: What happens at halftime with the Packers and the Bears

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Speaker 2: that changes that game.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, and I still can't figure out how

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Speaker 5: that happened. I really can't.

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Speaker 12: I mean, think, like, say this out loud. The Bears

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Speaker 12: defense is not very good. They're really opportunistic. They got

604
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Speaker 12: zero turnovers. Kayleb boys, they were one for four in

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Speaker 12: the first half. On fourth down, Kayleb Williams threw two

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Speaker 12: picks in the red zone for the Bears, and the

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Speaker 12: Bears won the game.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you just right down, like if you

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Speaker 5: do bullet points.

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Speaker 12: Or say it out loud, there is no way the

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Speaker 12: Bear should have won that game. And yet the miskicks

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Speaker 12: and whatever and they did. It's it's just remarkable what

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Speaker 12: they did. I cannot wait for that Rams Bears game.

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Speaker 2: Be careful on the sidelines, okay, because I know you're

615
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Speaker 2: working the sidelines tonight. Don't get too close to the

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Speaker 2: action where you get wiped out.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I get way back as soon as they got

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Speaker 5: to the numbers. I'm out of there.

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Speaker 12: I'm actually coming back in to try to get my

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Speaker 12: TV time while all the people that are clueless are

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Speaker 12: backing up at the last second.

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Speaker 2: Ah right, So you're gonna have a big yellow parka

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Speaker 2: on tonight.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 12: My wife thinks it's unprofessional to wear my orange ski jacket,

626
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 12: So you got you gotta follow me on social media.

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Speaker 12: Ross Tucker, NFL. I might wear like a pea coat

628
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Speaker 12: or something. Oh that makes me more professional.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Are you gonna wear a hat?

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Speaker 5: No? No, like a newspaper delivery boy hat. No.

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Speaker 3: No, like Tom Landry, a Tom Landry hat.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 12: No, it's too cold. I gotta cover my ears. I'm

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Speaker 12: gonna have like a you know, like a skull cap on.

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Speaker 3: All right? Maybe a scarf.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm anti scarf.

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Speaker 12: Scarf guys are trying too hard. Scarf guys are like

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Speaker 12: fancy you know what I mean? Like a scarf guy.

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Speaker 12: You only put a scarf on if you think you're

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Speaker 12: really cool. And I'm not that type of person.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're from the Ivy League. Ivy League, that's Scarfey.

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Speaker 12: I'm from reading Pennsylvania way before us from the Ivy League.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Ross Ross Tucker, Ross Tucker Football Podcast. Follow

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Speaker 2: him on social media at Ross Tucker NFL. He's working

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Speaker 2: for Westwood One. Tonight he'll be on the sidelines for

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Speaker 2: the Texans and the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: committed to LSU. This is kind of declaration week where

655
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Speaker 1: you're going to have schools who are going to announce

656
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Speaker 1: that somebody is actually staying. But Friday is the last

657
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Speaker 1: day for that.

658
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Speaker 3: UH.

659
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Speaker 2: Nebraska transfer Dylan Ryola has committed to Oregon.

660
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Speaker 3: Ow Right, that's.

661
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Speaker 7: A guy who needs a refresher for his prayer.

662
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think we move on from the I

663
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: look like Patrick Mahomes, play like Patrick Mahomes.

664
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Speaker 3: Let's see also.

665
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Speaker 2: On three reporting that Ohio it's a five star true

666
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: freshman wide receiver, Quincy Porter has committed to Notre Dame.

667
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Speaker 2: That is a big deal. That's a big deal. You're

668
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 2: not leaving Ohio State to go to Notre Dame. Certainly

669
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Speaker 2: those wide receivers, but they get a great wide receiver

670
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Speaker 2: that Notre Dame. Okay, here's the story. I'm not sure

671
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: why it's a story, but it's a big story, or

672
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: at least it's being talked about on social media. So

673
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: the reporter for Jacksonville Jaguars is named Lynn Jones. She

674
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Speaker 2: works for the Jacksonville Free Press, and following the loss

675
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: by the Jags to the Buffalo Bills, Jones the reporter

676
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: offered support and some positive words to head coach Liam Cohen.

677
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Speaker 13: Titta, you congratulations on your success, young man. You hold

678
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 13: your head up, all right. You guys have had a

679
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 13: most magnificent season. He did a great job out there today.

680
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Speaker 13: So you just hold your head up, okay. And ladies

681
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 13: and gentlemen, duvall you don't want all right, you keep

682
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 13: it going. We got another season, okay, take care and

683
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 13: much continued success to you and the entire team.

684
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Speaker 5: Thank you.

685
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 8: Mam.

686
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: She's been in broadcasting broadcast journalism for over three decades.

687
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: She is the associate editor and sales team manager for

688
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Free Press. I think she's also done some

689
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: hosting and TV as well. I don't know her. I

690
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: don't think that I've met her. But here is the

691
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: point that is being made by a lot of either

692
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: host former players, analysts. A lot of debate with this.

693
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: Should you be saying this in a press conference. You're

694
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Speaker 2: a member of the media, and yes, Jacksonville just lost.

695
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: You're a hometown reporter, but you're still a journalist. Your

696
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: job is to ask questions, to get answers from Liam Cohen,

697
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: and then you put it in your article. That's what

698
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: your job is. You're not a former player who plays

699
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: for Jacksonville played for It's not like Tony Vasselli if

700
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Speaker 2: he went there and said that in a press conference,

701
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Speaker 2: no one would have a problem with that. But if

702
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Speaker 2: you're a reporter and you're saying this, you can say

703
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: it in a way that you almost want Liam Cohen

704
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: to tell you what he accomplished this year. If you

705
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 2: just put it in question form coach tough loss. Can

706
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 2: you put it into words you know what you've done

707
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Speaker 2: this year. So now you've let him kind of tell

708
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Speaker 2: you what you are already telling him in that clip

709
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Speaker 2: that I just played for you. And this is this

710
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: is different than if Tony Dungeee says something about Mike

711
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: Tomlin or to Mike Tomlin, or Rodney Harrison says something

712
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: about the New England Patriot. They're former players. This is

713
00:38:54,760 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: a press conference and you're a journalist. Now, look, I

714
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: don't root. I don't root. I didn't like it when

715
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: Stuart's got rooted, openly rooted, or Chris Berman openly rooted.

716
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: I didn't like it. But hey, they had.

717
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: Their own agenda, and I'm sure there are things that

718
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: they didn't like of my approach here, but it shouldn't

719
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: be a big deal. I think this reporter was very

720
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: compassionate and it was a tough loss and she said

721
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Speaker 2: it and she's been there in the community for over

722
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: thirty years. Okay, it's not what we should be doing,

723
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: but it's not the end of the world. And now

724
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: you've got people who are, you know, saying, oh, you

725
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: old journalist, and you guys, you know your days are

726
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: numbered and polar credit you know, you know there We

727
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: need journalism, We need people asking questions. I've admitted I

728
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: got too close to players before paid the price. You

729
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: know you can't do it because you you know, I

730
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: got too close to Jason Johnby and Mark maguire, and

731
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: then when I had to report on them, then all

732
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I lost friendships.

733
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Speaker 3: But that's on me. That's on me.

734
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Speaker 2: So I've done this firsthand. But I'm not openly rooting

735
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Speaker 2: for you. I mean, Kurt Warner went to the Super

736
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Speaker 2: Bowl with Arizona and I did an interview with him

737
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: that season. I said, if you take them to the

738
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: super Bowl, you're going to go to the Hall of Fame.

739
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened. But you know what I

740
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: did after that Super Bowl. I went to Kurt Warner

741
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 2: privately and told him that was an incredible job, and

742
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: you are going to the Hall of Fame. Not at

743
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: the press conference. You could still pull him aside if

744
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: you want to talk to the coach. Hey, coach, I

745
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: just want you to know what you've meant to this community.

746
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 2: But this isn't hey, you know, the old school journalist. Oh,

747
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: we still need people who ask questions. Not everybody has

748
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: to be a cheerleader and former players are not journalist.

749
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: Don't expect them to be. You know, people would pile

750
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: on Pat mcavie. You got to ask, you know, Aaron

751
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: Rodgers tough questions. Pat's an entertainer. I'm not expecting him

752
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: to ask the questions that I would ask, and vice versa.

753
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: It gets a paid interview. You have him, come on,

754
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 2: you talk, Let him talk. Okay, there's a reason why

755
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: he wanted to keep going back on those shows. At

756
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: that show, he got freedom to say what he wanted

757
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: to say. But that's Pat's show. I don't have any

758
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: problem with that.

759
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's kind of ironic too, because Lynn Jones probably

760
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 9: did and got one of the realest things to happen

761
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 9: in a postgame press conference in years, where like actual

762
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 9: human emotion and interaction rather than the same robotic answers

763
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Speaker 9: that every journalist in the room is going to.

764
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Speaker 3: Coach, how does this what does it feel like? Coach?

765
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 5: Coach?

766
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 10: Looking forward to next year? Coach, what's the what's the

767
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 10: planned coach?

768
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: Coach?

769
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 9: What are you going to do in the other all

770
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 9: the same crap that people ask every single press conference.

771
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 10: It's a totally different thing.

772
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: And the approach in these press conferences to so called

773
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: journalism has changed dramatically. I don't know if it's for

774
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: the good. I mean, that's for you the consumer. My

775
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: approach will be my approach for the next at least

776
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: the next two years. But that's what I teach at

777
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: my broadcasting school. Whatever you do after that, I want

778
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: to give you the foundation of what you should do

779
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: when you go to a press conference. You're not there

780
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: to be cheering in the press box. You're not there

781
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: to be cheering in a press conference. But it became

782
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 2: like this back and forth on social media. And that's

783
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 2: what was surprising is I think it came from a

784
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: good place with her that yes she was proud, and

785
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: yes it was a local reporter. But that's where you know,

786
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: I pull you aside and say, I hope you understand

787
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 2: exactly what you did for this community and be proud

788
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: and hold your head up. But you know, to make

789
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: it like this is Nixon Frost debate. Yeah, Polin.

790
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

791
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 7: When I heard it yesterday and I saw how I

792
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 7: was posted, I'll get to that, but like I both

793
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 7: thought that, wow, it was really sweet what she said,

794
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 7: and also that journalists are not supposed to do that

795
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 7: in press conferences, that's and everyone knows that it's not

796
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 7: even the debate that you're not supposed to handle questions

797
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 7: or statements that way.

798
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 3: But what she said was really sweet.

799
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Speaker 7: I didn't think Adam Schefter did her any favors when

800
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 7: he posted this is an awesome postgame exchange between a

801
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 7: reporter and head coach Liam Cohen. He gave no context

802
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 7: to the person asking how old they were, how long

803
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 7: they've been there? And people came after this reporter. Yeah,

804
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 7: and it took me a while to look up how

805
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 7: long she'd been there. I took a minute. But Schefter

806
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 7: did her no favors and posting it that way.

807
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, And.

808
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: This isn't a I got my show and I get

809
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: to to, you know, treat my guests this way. This

810
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: is a reporter. It's different. We have to play by

811
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: different rules. We're not cheerleaders. It's not like Teddy Bruski's

812
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: on the Mothership and he's saying nice things about the Patriots.

813
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: He's a former Patriot. You have to approach this as

814
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 2: fair as you possibly can. Because I always thought, when

815
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: you're watching Sports Center, I want to make sure you

816
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: know that I don't have a bias. I don't have

817
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: a bias against your team or you know, for your team.

818
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: I don't.

819
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Speaker 2: I don't want you to ever think that because when

820
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: somebody says, oh, who you want to win? I go

821
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, it doesn't ye know. Case in point,

822
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Speaker 2: when we're at Notre Dame, you can't help it, like

823
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman. But if USC won that game, it's content.

824
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: If Miami wins the national title, I don't care. I mean,

825
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 2: Indiana's a great story, but if Miami wins, it's it's

826
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: still a great story. That's what I'm in the storytelling business.

827
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: But you're not in the business of rooting. And I'm

828
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: guilty of this. It's hard not to do it, and

829
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: people want access. How do you get access by being

830
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: nice to people? By saying nice things about people? I mean,

831
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: there are people won't come on this show, but you know,

832
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: there are reasons. And it's not that I didn't.

833
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 3: Do my job.

834
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: It's that I do my job at least what I

835
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 2: think is my job, and this is my show. My

836
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: approach is different than throw out other hosts how Jim

837
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: Rome or Colin does him his or you know the

838
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: ESPN Morning Show. I mean everybody that's your territory.

839
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Speaker 3: Do what you want.

840
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Speaker 8: Yes, Ton, I appreciate what you had to say, and

841
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 8: I understand the form isn't the best place. What if

842
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 8: you were a journalist covering the team and you had

843
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 8: a tough question that you were ready to ask right

844
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 8: after she said that.

845
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 5: You would look like such a jerk.

846
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 8: How'd you guys blow that you could have beat the Bills?

847
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 8: What happened after she just gave the flowers to him?

848
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 8: You almost can't ask the question there.

849
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 2: That's tough, no, But I don't know what tough question

850
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 2: you'd be asking that, you know. I mean, this is

851
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: a team that probably felt a year ahead of schedule.

852
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 2: There they It's a great story, great story, and nobody's

853
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: going to take Jacksonville lightly next year. But I mean,

854
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 2: you want to ask tough questions the Packers after they lost,

855
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: that would be the place where you're asking some tough questions.

856
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 2: Here is Matt Lafleur, Green Bay head coach.

857
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Speaker 14: Well, obviously this one is going to hurt for a really,

858
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 14: really long time. You know, when you are in complete

859
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 14: control of a football game and the flip the script

860
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 14: gets flipped in the second half and it was a

861
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 14: lot of self inflicted things, and you know, give credit

862
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 14: to them. We knew they were a team that could

863
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 14: come back and and fight that. I mean, they've proved

864
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 14: it all season long, and we had opportunities to kind

865
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 14: of put them away, and we didn't get it done.

866
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Speaker 2: He got asked quite a few times about coming back

867
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: next year. He's going to be in the final year

868
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: of his contract. But you know, these are tough questions.

869
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: But this is big boy business. They get paid to

870
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Speaker 2: answer these questions. You got to ask the questions. And

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Speaker 2: you know how you ask it. I mean, you may

872
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Speaker 2: dress it up a little bit so it doesn't sound

873
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: as penetrating, but you still have to ask these questions.

874
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: And yes, it is uncomfortable and I've you know, I

875
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 2: got yelled at by Don Shula one time, the Great

876
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: Don Shula, because I asked a question and he didn't

877
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Speaker 2: like the way I asked it, almost as if to say,

878
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Speaker 2: who were you to ask me that question? And he's

879
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: probably right. I mean, I was young in the business.

880
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Speaker 2: But you know, you got to ask questions because you've

881
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: got to serve your audience.

882
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 3: You're readers. Remember when they used to read newspapers. God

883
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Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh Post Gazette is folding.

884
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's unbelievable in that town, as valuable as

885
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Speaker 2: that newspaper was.

886
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Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin, Yeah, I remember growing up the sports reporters.

887
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Speaker 5: They were big.

888
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Speaker 3: I know, I.

889
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Speaker 8: Remember being starstrug when I met Bob Ryan, and my

890
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 8: cousin was like, you're such a geek, it's pathetic.

891
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Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, Bob Ryan from the

892
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Speaker 5: Boston Glow.

893
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Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, he's a writer. Chad in Salt Lake.

894
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: He types for a living.

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Speaker 3: Hey Chad, Hey, how you doing, guys? Good?

896
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Speaker 15: So when you read her job description, she and maybe

897
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 15: started out as a reporter, but is now in the

898
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Speaker 15: sales side. She's there. You know, she's there as a

899
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Speaker 15: fan that just happened to have a press credential. I'm

900
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 15: assuming maybe I shouldn't assue that, but it feels that way.

901
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Speaker 15: I'd get in that boat. I work in sports radio

902
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 15: on the sales side. I would love to do what

903
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 15: you guys do, but I saw who drives the nicer cars,

904
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Speaker 15: so I moved to the sales site years ago. You know,

905
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Speaker 15: it's it just like she was.

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Speaker 3: There, accurate, accurate, thank you.

907
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, are there moments where you know a reporter

908
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: is hugging somebody after a game or whatever.

909
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, there's yes, all of these.

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Speaker 2: I just think you have to have there have to

911
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 2: be lines here, like there has to be you know,

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Speaker 2: guardrails where you're able to ask these questions.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna you know, I don't have any problem.

914
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Speaker 2: If she's that emotional and invested and you know she

915
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: let those emotions out, it's okay.

916
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Speaker 3: But now this is a referendum on old school news.

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Speaker 1: School.

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Speaker 2: This is no you know, nobody cares about you, old journalist.

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Speaker 3: And maybe that's true. But I came in this way,

920
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Speaker 3: I'm going out this way.