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Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue

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Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from seven

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Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports Now. If

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Speaker 1: you're your hosts Michael Bumpis and.

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Speaker 2: Paul Moyer, Welcome to Hawk's Slide, presented by the Dining

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Speaker 2: District at the Bellevue Collection.

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Speaker 3: The show is at seven o'clock every.

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Speaker 2: Thursday right here on Seattle Sports seven ten, broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from Bellvy Square Center Court.

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Speaker 3: I am Michael Bumpus with my guy, not Paul.

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Speaker 2: Moyer this week. Paul, not Paul Moyer this week. I'm

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Speaker 2: sitting here with big Play Bass Seek.

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Speaker 4: What a treat you guys finally got the upgrade.

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Speaker 5: That's like riding coaching.

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Speaker 4: Somebody tap you on your shoulder and said, hey, we

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Speaker 4: got a first class seat for you.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to be back. Bump Oh, coach, you're skipping

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Speaker 2: business class. You're going coach straight to first class.

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Speaker 3: Is what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: Kind of the same, kind of the same these days. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I get you, I get you. How you doing the

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Speaker 2: holidays and you're so far well.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I'm so excited to be in front

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Speaker 4: of at least twelve hundred screaming fans here at Bellevue Square.

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Speaker 5: Do you guys always get this kind of crowded just

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Speaker 5: when I come.

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Speaker 3: This is a small crowd.

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Speaker 2: Actually we should get about five thousand, but you know,

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Speaker 2: we'll settle for twelve hundred.

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Speaker 5: It's all good, all right. I'm sorry it got downgrade

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Speaker 5: a bit.

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Speaker 3: No big play Bass.

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Speaker 2: You know, me and Bass played together back in the day,

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Speaker 2: and all he did was make big play. So I'm

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Speaker 2: happy that he's here with me on this stage. Two day,

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Speaker 2: I got a Christmas note. You got a car right

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Speaker 2: here from right here.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, thank you, hey.

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Speaker 4: I hope you have a great merry Christmas and a

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Speaker 4: happy New Year. That's what I'm talking about. Well, thank

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Speaker 4: you so much. Holiday season. How many of you guys

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Speaker 4: out here are going to Snowflake Lane?

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Speaker 3: You guys done with that stuff? Snowflake Lane one right there?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Look, if you just walk outside to your car,

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Speaker 4: you in the middle of snowflake Lane.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't even matter if you were right in the

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Speaker 2: middle of that thing. I didn't realize it started so close.

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Speaker 2: I thought it started half a mile around the way,

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Speaker 2: and then it made its way here. No, it starts

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Speaker 2: right there. But just setting the scene for you guys

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Speaker 2: here at Bellvy squaresit in the court. Like I said

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Speaker 2: on Michael Bumpas that is Jordan Baveno, le, let's reflect

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Speaker 2: a little bit of what we saw last week, Babs.

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Speaker 2: We saw a team that just came out special teams.

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Speaker 2: You block a kick, so that's cool, block a pat,

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Speaker 2: then you have a pat block a punt to the house.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, a kick return to the house, fumbles on

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Speaker 2: pump return, fumbles on kick return.

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Speaker 3: Man. How rocky was that start for these guys last week?

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Speaker 4: You know, I mean, it couldn't have been a worse start,

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Speaker 4: especially on the road. One of the things that we've

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Speaker 4: always been taught in that locker room in terms of,

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Speaker 4: you know, getting the mentality for road games is you

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Speaker 4: gotta pack your defense, you gotta pack your special teams.

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Speaker 4: And in most cases, special teams they're responsible for winning

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Speaker 4: three games throughout the season, four games maybe depending on

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Speaker 4: the goals, but you know, whether that's field goals, field position,

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Speaker 4: That was not one of the best starts for the Hawks,

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Speaker 4: and I know they've struggled and talked about how to

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Speaker 4: on opposing teams early in the first quarter and make

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Speaker 4: it tough. That was one of the worst starts that

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Speaker 4: you could possibly have. But this team has prevailed and

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Speaker 4: they've done it a number of times over throughout the season,

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Speaker 4: and that's why they're in first place in the NFC West.

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Speaker 2: Bad I'm looking at that game and the Jets are

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Speaker 2: driving to go up twenty eight to seven, and in

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna go down here in New York. But

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Speaker 3: then you got big Cat.

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Speaker 2: Dropping into the hook to curl the flat making a

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Speaker 2: big play. I haven't seen a big man do something

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 4: Wow wow, you know, it kind of flashes back who

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Speaker 4: You know the best thing about that is that. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you talk about one play changing the outcome of the game.

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Speaker 4: The prior play, Aaron Rodgers missed a wide open receiver

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Speaker 4: you know, that's just credit to the defense being able

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Speaker 4: coverage on the slot and Big Cat, I mean Big

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Speaker 4: Cat did something that I didn't do in my nine

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Speaker 5: Picked off Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: I've seen six or two from you.

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Speaker 5: Hey what he picked off Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: And not only that, I mean he looked athletic doing it,

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Speaker 4: you know, tipped the pass to himself. Just disguise was

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Speaker 4: I mean, that was just great disguise by the defense

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Speaker 4: and really made Aaron Rodgers have to do something he

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Speaker 4: earlier than he wanted to, and defense it's made them pay.

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Speaker 4: Big Cat Player of the Week Defensive Player of the

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Speaker 4: Week this week after a back to back two sack performance.

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Speaker 4: He's definitely playing at an all pro level and certainly

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Speaker 3: Of that defense.

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Speaker 2: All right, So I'm gonna tap into some bad memories

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Speaker 2: for you and don oh Man, how bad man we

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Speaker 2: used to go back to the East Coast and that

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Speaker 3: Good football, man?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 3: So what do you think it is?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure, obviously you don't know the science

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Speaker 2: But what do you see from the team that's been

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Speaker 2: What does it ten o'clock start for us over here,

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Speaker 2: be able to play some good football. It looked like

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Speaker 4: Way they start, I mean a few of them were

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Speaker 4: hold on And again, you know Pete Carroll had the recipe,

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Speaker 4: but you know Snyder's still in the building, so he

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Speaker 4: I don't think Coach Holmgren and I can't even recall

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Speaker 4: in terms of getting it right that even dating back

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Speaker 5: They've had incredible success.

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Speaker 4: But I can recall going back and you remember this,

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Speaker 2: I like to think that Pete Carroll had a little

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Speaker 2: and here's the recipe. This is how we got it done.

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Speaker 2: But we've also seen this this defense take a step forward.

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Speaker 2: And to me when I watch film, the first thing

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Speaker 2: Over the last three games, they're the sixth best defense

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Speaker 3: What are you seeing out of this defense?

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Speaker 2: And why do you think that they should be able

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Speaker 4: You know, you know the first thing that's pretty obvious

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Speaker 4: You know how easy that is As a player, I

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: Obviously there's been a lot of change at the second level.

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Speaker 4: The linebackers are no longer there. They brought in Ernest Jones,

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Speaker 4: Tarres Knight is stepping up. These guys are tackle machines.

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Speaker 4: And that's part of the recipe of McDonald's defense. It's

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Speaker 4: Leonard Williams being that dog, making it I say easier,

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Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant stepping in there. You bringing back Rayshawn Jenkins,

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Speaker 4: and they're playing good football at the right time, moving

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Speaker 2: Real quick, about thirty forty seconds. This is something I

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Speaker 2: is that he ain't afraid to make changes linebacker spot Baker,

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Speaker 3: Dotson, You're not getting it done. Expect you for who

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Speaker 3: you are.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all you guys for showing up on this Thursday.

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Speaker 3: I'm Michael Bumpas. That's Jordan babinon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Back to Hawks Live, presented by the Dining District

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Speaker 2: at the Bellevue Collection of Michael Bumpus.

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Speaker 3: I'm here with my guy, Jordan Babanon Babinon.

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Speaker 2: Your last name allowed me to understand how to how

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Speaker 2: Uh, we're waiting on uh roy Robinson Harris. He was

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Speaker 5: And that was how we played defense back then.

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Speaker 5: I mean, talk about a great time.

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Speaker 2: Of the D line, all right, So the D line

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Speaker 2: We started with that D line we're drawing by now

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Speaker 2: we appreciate you taking time out of your day to

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Speaker 4: Certainly a different path, I mean, I think I'll share

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Speaker 5: You've played in.

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Speaker 4: Talk about this journey from UTAP By the way, it's

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Speaker 4: at nowhere. We got time for it. As you know,

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Speaker 7: Well man, there was a lot of uncertainty. I wasn't sure,

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Speaker 7: He's from Oakland.

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Speaker 2: He got both. You tried to claim all of them.

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Speaker 3: Don't realize how important you guys are.

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Speaker 2: When did you make that transition of D line in

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Speaker 3: I'm taking on double teams. It's getting grimmy in here.

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Speaker 6: It just worked out.

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Speaker 5: I tell you what.

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Speaker 5: Again, that you're a golfer here.

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Speaker 3: You're hitting that ball man.

442
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 5: Tell me about your game. You got a handicap or

443
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:13,160
Speaker 5: the game.

444
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 7: I'm still in the twenties, man, I got a bad slide.

445
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 7: My pro shot is beautiful. Man, anything one hundred and

446
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,439
Speaker 7: fifty end, one fifty end. I'm good to go. But

447
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,360
Speaker 7: still working on that te off shot.

448
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,919
Speaker 8: Man saying a great scrambled player. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely

449
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,439
Speaker 8: scrambled team good. I'm good to go.

450
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 2: What got you in the game, I tell what got

451
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 2: me into the game, Being in the locker room and

452
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,919
Speaker 2: seeing guys like baths and all these dudes disappear and

453
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 2: where all going, and they come back talking about their rounds,

454
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,639
Speaker 2: Like I got to get into it.

455
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 3: What got you in?

456
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Speaker 7: Just the same thing, man, seeing guys. I mean I

457
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 7: lived in Florida for a few years, so where we

458
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 7: stay out in Jacksonville, it's a golf course every mile

459
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Speaker 7: and a half to two miles, so you just you

460
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 7: see it all the time. Man, Just being around guys

461
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 7: at play and I just got into it. Got me

462
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 7: some custom clubs that fit me good. And just getting

463
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 7: out there. Man, I can have a bad game, I

464
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 7: could play a good game just being out there with

465
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 7: the guys and just vibing and.

466
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Speaker 6: It's just as good.

467
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 7: It's peaceful, and you know, especially you go to a

468
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 7: nice course, you know how to get to a nice course.

469
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 7: You can enjoy the views and everything like that. So

470
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 7: ain't no rush exactly exactly. So it's it's a good

471
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 7: vibe man outside the ball man, it really just gives

472
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Speaker 7: me peace.

473
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Speaker 4: Hopefully, get a chance to play some golf. There's a

474
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 4: there's some great golf courses off season. Get ready to

475
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 4: bring you club, not in the next three three months.

476
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Speaker 3: You don't want to know. I hate him up like bass.

477
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 3: Get me on the country course, real quick, man, he guy.

478
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll get you. We'll get you right right.

479
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 4: Look as far as I know, all men from Texas

480
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 4: can cook.

481
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 5: I hear you. You're a big man, so I know you'd.

482
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 3: Like to eat.

483
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 4: And you a foodie somewhat. I've hear you a foodie.

484
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 4: So let me let me first of all, I ask

485
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Speaker 4: you a little bit about your chef, your cooking game,

486
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 4: Like what's your favorite dish to cook or easiest dish

487
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 4: to cook?

488
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 5: Don't have to look at a recipe. I could do

489
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Speaker 5: it unmeasured.

490
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Speaker 6: Well, I'm not I'm not big on cooking. I let

491
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:01,959
Speaker 6: wife you do that.

492
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 7: But I'm gonna smoke it, though I do brisket beef

493
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 7: for real chickens.

494
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 4: That's a Texas thing. They ain't smoking no brisk y'all

495
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 4: eat avocado, smoking.

496
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Speaker 3: Avocados in California.

497
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Speaker 6: Man, don't do that.

498
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 4: Smoked avocados and cat all right, So I want to,

499
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Speaker 4: I want to. I want to run you through this

500
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 4: gauntlet real quick. It'll be a little fast response. It'll

501
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 4: be a little game called this or that.

502
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Speaker 6: You're ready, I got you?

503
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Speaker 3: All right?

504
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 4: Here we go pasta or rice, pasta, fried, or barbecue, barbecue,

505
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Speaker 4: salad or fries.

506
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go salad. Man, I gotta stay here. I

507
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 7: gotta go. I gotta stay healthy. I'm gonna go yeah,

508
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 7: but the season, I'm going fries.

509
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 5: Alright.

510
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 3: So now you don't have a choice to be healthy.

511
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 3: Cake or pie O cake all day all day? Okay,

512
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 3: home cook or takeout o home cook?

513
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Speaker 5: Beer or wine.

514
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Speaker 7: Oh, I'm gonna have to go wine. I've been on

515
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 7: the wine lately. I've been on the lately which is

516
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Speaker 7: rice wine for anybody that doesn't know. I'm been on

517
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 7: the wy lately. But if I'm listening to some country,

518
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 7: I definitely got to have me a cold.

519
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 8: One, last one, pancakes or waffles, waffles, waffles, all that,

520
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 8: And I'm gonna.

521
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 7: Go ahead and say French toast. I'm a big French

522
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Speaker 7: toast guy. If you got good French toast, I'm there. Yeah, yes, sir, yes, sir,

523
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 7: I'm the same.

524
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Speaker 2: My wife hates it, so I gotta make Frinds toast.

525
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Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Well let's uh, let's let's get back

526
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: to football. Man, it's been it's been fun to see

527
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: what the defense is doing, you know, And I'm sure

528
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 2: when you were at Jacksonville you're not keeping up on

529
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: what the Hawks defense is doing and all that good stuff.

530
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 2: But since since you and and Earnest have come over

531
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Speaker 2: and then with the leadership of a Big Cat and

532
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 2: everybody else, the defenses seems like they're meshing.

533
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 3: Like what do you think it is?

534
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: Is it as simple as gods just believing in their assignments?

535
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: The coaching like, how do how do we how do

536
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: we measure this?

537
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Speaker 7: Guys are just believing in each other. Man, is everybody's

538
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 7: coming together at the right time? What is it week

539
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 7: thirteen now? So I mean this the perfect time for

540
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 7: the for us to get a good role man and

541
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 7: guys are. Guys are trusting each other, believing each other,

542
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 7: speaking the same language on the field, trusting the coaches,

543
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 7: trusting the scheme, and we'll go out there. It's showing

544
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,959
Speaker 7: even in practice. You know, guys are able to communicate,

545
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 7: and it shows up. It shows up in practice, shows

546
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 7: up in the games.

547
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Speaker 5: Last few games.

548
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 4: Fourteen points against the Jets last week, six against Arizona

549
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 4: kept him out of the end zone, and seventeen against

550
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 4: a Shanahan offense that has given the Seahawks problems for

551
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 4: the last several years. And now of that was to

552
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 4: you know, Bigcat, you know and his play up front.

553
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 4: What is it like playing next to a guy like

554
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 4: Leonard Williams and the game plan and offenses have to

555
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 4: prepare for with someone like that, And what does it

556
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 4: do for you in getting those one on one opportunities?

557
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 7: Man, I ain't gonna lie bro I never played with

558
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 7: a dude like like Leonard. Man, big Cat is a

559
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 7: different dude. He's a game wrecker and man, he just

560
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 7: he just knows the opponent before he gets out there

561
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 7: and he has shown this season. But Man, super humble dude,

562
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 7: great communicator, he's a great teammate. Man great dude to

563
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 7: be around.

564
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 2: So when I when I was with the Hawks, there's

565
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 2: always a couple of Washington State guys sprinkled.

566
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: On the team and throwing that in there. But you

567
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: know what I mean, So you know, sprinkling in there.

568
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: Uh you got a UTEP you know brother on the

569
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 2: team a bit younger than you.

570
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 6: Yeah.

571
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Speaker 3: You guys ever connected to talk about your experiences all?

572
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Speaker 6: Oh, for sure?

573
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Speaker 7: Many Night by the way, Yeah, Tea Night, Yeah, man.

574
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 7: We So I linked up with him first day I

575
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 7: got in. Man, I had to talk to my youtub

576
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 7: anytime I talked to any UTEP guys. Has always loved

577
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 7: man because there's only a handful of us in the league,

578
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 7: and guys that I played with, you know, we're still

579
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 7: playing Aaron Jones, Eric Thomlinson, Will Hernandez. So man, super

580
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 7: proud of Tea Night being drafted and handling his business

581
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 7: and coming into the league and doing his thing. Man

582
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 7: the past few weeks he's been handling his business and

583
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 7: doing just playing good linebacker play man. So super proud

584
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 7: of him coming out out the tech man for sure.

585
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 5: That's awesome. I told you we were going to get

586
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 5: back to that.

587
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 4: Texas and California conversation in terms of the best athletes

588
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 4: you've been on both sides. You play Texas ball, What

589
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 4: is it like playing Texas high school football? We'll start

590
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 4: there and then you tell me, just from your professional opinion,

591
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 4: the best athletes Texas, California.

592
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: We played the high school stoptball in Texas.

593
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 5: Stop it.

594
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 7: Hey, man, I love Cali, I love to Bay, I

595
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 7: love where I'm from, but look Texas, man, Texas, Texas

596
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 7: puts out the best football players in the country.

597
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 6: That's point blank.

598
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 3: Let me say something. That's facts.

599
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 5: It's done.

600
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 3: Can I talk. I ain't gonna lie. Football is different

601
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 3: in Texas. Different, but it just is as much as.

602
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: Much as I wanted to put on for Cali, and

603
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 2: then like, I'm okay being number two or number three.

604
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 3: It's just different.

605
00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: When you have thirty thousand seats in a high school stadium,

606
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: when you have civilians saying tax me, I'm willing to

607
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: pay for this stadium. It's just different. So I ain't

608
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: even gonna front it's different, but uh, it.

609
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 6: Is, you know.

610
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 3: And then Jay Santa is from Texas, you know obviously

611
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 3: all around. So no, I got I got much, I

612
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 3: got much love and respect.

613
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: I still think, by the way, I gotta I gotta

614
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 4: check my my facts. But Texas has produced or currently

615
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 4: has the most NFL players, most players in Who's state?

616
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 3: Who's the state?

617
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, Texas, Florida.

618
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 4: Maybe Georgia and Cally that's a that's a close Georgia County.

619
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: That's a close for third, Yeah, Georgia. Yeah, I just

620
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: been disrespectful.

621
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Speaker 2: I just about him Cali up here on the stage

622
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 2: with me real quick, man, It is gracious, but no,

623
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: it's all of it in respect, man. And you've been

624
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: able to to carve out like a good career man.

625
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: And I think that people don't realize there's always a

626
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: stat that goes out there every year where it's like

627
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: there's X amount of high school players, X amount of

628
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: college players and then uh so and so like one

629
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 2: point five make it to the league. I mean, the

630
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: undrafted route is a crazy route. You know, we all

631
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: have been there and understand it. What what was it

632
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: about you that allowed you to kind of find your

633
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 2: path and build this career that you have.

634
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 7: Just trusting the guys around me, man, and trusting the

635
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 7: the advice that I get, you know, I mean, you know,

636
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 7: it's been a it's crazy looking back, you know, eight

637
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 7: nine years ago, coming in undrafted, but just stuck to

638
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 7: the plan and stuck to the grind.

639
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: You know, there it is and we're running out. Yeah,

640
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 3: we got a wrap.

641
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 5: I wanted to give him a chance to talk about

642
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 5: his charitable interest.

643
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 4: I know you got a you know is Mike cause

644
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 4: Mike cleats and you got foundations and you support the

645
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 4: Big Brothers, big sisters. I know a lot about that

646
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 4: as well. For sure, give a chance to speak to

647
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: the terrible, terrible work that.

648
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 6: You're geting it.

649
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 7: So, so a little over a year ago, I started

650
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 7: my foundation, Inspiring Greatness Foundation. We're here to basically help

651
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 7: inner city youth and single mother So I grew up

652
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 7: with a single mother and she's here with me today

653
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 7: and she's she's done everything she could help me get

654
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 7: to where I am today.

655
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 6: Huge, huge part of my life.

656
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 7: And so I'm trying to make sure I get back

657
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 7: to any single mothers that need help, anything you know,

658
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 7: financial wise, any you know, supplies that their children may

659
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 7: need for school, or just anything that we can do

660
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 7: to help. That's pretty much the target on my foundation.

661
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 7: That's the goal of my foundation. With Tramon's name Treville, Treville, Robertson, Tavell.

662
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Speaker 7: We love you, we appreciate you. That made a beautiful

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Speaker 7: young man right here. That's awesome, all right, man, That

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Speaker 7: is Roy Robinson Harris.

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Speaker 2: Who appreciate you. Guys hanging out. When we come back,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to Charles Cross. That's next here on Hawk's line.

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue

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Speaker 2: This is Hawks Live presented by the Dining just at

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Speaker 2: the Bellevue Collection on Michael Bumpas with my guy Jordan

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Speaker 2: Babado and now, oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: That people are hype.

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Speaker 2: You know why they're hyped because we're about to talk

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Speaker 2: to Charles Cross.

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Speaker 3: Charles, how you doing today? Man?

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Speaker 9: I'm doing well. How about our tells?

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Speaker 3: We're good? Man, can't complain. It's uh.

679
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Speaker 2: The holiday season is a Thursday and we're talking to you, man.

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Speaker 2: Something I like to check in with folks man because

681
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Speaker 2: the holidays or if we're in the holiday season, Thanksgiving

682
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Speaker 2: just went by your week? Thirteen? Man, how's the body?

683
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Speaker 2: How's the mental health and spirit?

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Speaker 9: I'm feeling well with these and my third years here.

685
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Speaker 9: I feel like I pretty much you know, got my

686
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Speaker 9: routine down packed, body feeling good, mine feeling good while

687
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Speaker 9: everything's in line.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome to hear a cross look, I.

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Speaker 4: Know one, thanks for texts, for taking time out, jumping

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Speaker 4: on a car.

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Speaker 5: We'd love to have you down here. You ought to

692
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Speaker 5: see the scene right now.

693
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Speaker 4: It's at least fifteen hundred screaming twelves fans here, and

694
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Speaker 4: I tell you that the line for autographs might be

695
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: just a little bit too much to handle. But look,

696
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Speaker 4: talk about this success of the team over the last

697
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Speaker 4: three weeks since the bye week.

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Speaker 3: What's changed?

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Speaker 9: I feel like just just how mentality has been, you know,

700
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Speaker 9: go one oh each week and it's just playing well

701
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Speaker 9: together the office, depending on the defense, defenseive pen on

702
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Speaker 9: the offense, and just playing comformbility football.

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Speaker 3: Man, What what's it like preparing for a team.

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Speaker 2: You just saw a couple of weeks ago when I

705
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: was on my show, the Bumping Station Show, I said, man,

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Speaker 2: it's almost like they hand you the same scouting report

707
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: and said, all right, there's a couple of wrinkles they

708
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Speaker 2: threw in there, but they're pretty much the same team.

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Speaker 3: What's it like for you? Guys.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, really do some just looking at the ringers they

711
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Speaker 9: put in on, seeing how they do things differently, like

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Speaker 9: what they changed, and like you said, pretty much going

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Speaker 9: to get the same guys. So it's being detailed. It's

714
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Speaker 9: a detailed you know, this second time planning. So we

715
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Speaker 9: just dive into the details and I'm working with h Q.

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Speaker 4: All right, Charles, here we go first and goal on

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Speaker 4: the one yard line.

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Speaker 3: Call your play set?

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Speaker 4: He I mean, is it in the playbook? I think

720
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Speaker 4: all of the twelves want to know. Is it in

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Speaker 4: the short yards play call sheet?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we got it in there. We got it in

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Speaker 9: there for seeing.

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Speaker 3: Charles.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell him too much, man, don't tell him too much.

726
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Speaker 2: Don't sound too much.

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Speaker 4: You guys are pretty close to unlocking the run game

728
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Speaker 4: on all serious list, And I know Kennith Walker and

729
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 4: Charbonney are really working hard to really find some balance,

730
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Speaker 4: particularly after you know, Ryan Grubb has you know, felt

731
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Speaker 4: to have been a little past heavy in the first

732
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Speaker 4: half of the season. How close are you guys to

733
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Speaker 4: unlocking the real potential of what this run game can

734
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Speaker 4: do for the offense?

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Speaker 9: Oh? I feel like I feel like we defintely on

736
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Speaker 9: like hitting the right direction. We yeeling Will. We're playing

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Speaker 9: Will at a great time in the season. It's like

738
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Speaker 9: we're there, We're there on no contuin to inscute and

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Speaker 9: play it high level and everyone be on the same page.

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Speaker 9: And those guys got a lot of succists coming their

741
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Speaker 9: way and they helps the team and it helps me

742
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Speaker 9: in only fighting for those guys to you know, get

743
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Speaker 9: the opportunity to do it.

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Speaker 3: And man, I know that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're a veteran in the game now and

746
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Speaker 2: you've seen guys coming go on that offensive line and

747
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Speaker 2: you don't play.

748
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Speaker 3: Next to this guy.

749
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Speaker 2: But what is it like having your boy Abe Lucas

750
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Speaker 2: back at and what does that do for the offensive

751
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Speaker 2: line room?

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Speaker 9: Man? As a great thing. Man, you know, he's he's

753
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Speaker 9: a very smart, physical, tough guy.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 9: You know, he's just a great player overall. He's only

756
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 9: he understands the game well and he's a great essay

757
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Speaker 9: to our team.

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Speaker 4: You know, Charles, I think one of the most fascinating

759
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Speaker 4: things at least and you know, and my time in

760
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Speaker 4: the locker room is that the build up that it

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00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: takes to get to game day and you know, getting yourself,

762
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Speaker 4: you know, healthy, acclimated, with the editions getting back ready

763
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Speaker 4: for performance high performance. Do you have certain routines or

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Speaker 4: things that you always do on game day or things

765
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Speaker 4: that you do during the week to get yourself ready

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Speaker 4: for Sunday.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I have, Like you know, over the over the

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Speaker 9: past couple of years, I definitely on like credit routine,

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Speaker 9: tweaked their times and like just pripping throughout the week

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Speaker 9: make sure my body's ready for practice to the game

771
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Speaker 9: is definitely something that I been big into this year.

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Speaker 9: You try to make you un prepared at my big

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Speaker 9: though mentally physically, expiritual.

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Speaker 3: Charles.

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Speaker 2: I go back and I talked to my kids and

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Speaker 2: they asked me, if I can change anything, what would

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00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: you change? And I said, maybe maybe I would have

778
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Speaker 2: played dB if I can go back and do it,

779
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Speaker 2: if you could shape your body into whatever you want

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Speaker 2: it right, I know you're a big man, so you

781
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: got to play on that deal our old line. If

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Speaker 2: you could play any other posiition, what position would you

783
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 2: want to try?

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't want to play any little police.

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Speaker 2: Straight up there, it is hey security, And that's a

786
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Speaker 2: that's surprising to here.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 4: I know you have because because I know when offensive

789
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 4: linemen see the running back break a big one. You

790
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 4: know it kind of have some reminiscent days of younger

791
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 4: Pop Warner when they was a little jitterbug.

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Speaker 5: Did you did you play any skill positions?

793
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Speaker 4: Or you were just a big your whole life, always

794
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 4: moving piles and moving people.

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Speaker 9: So so so in my hometown when when you played

796
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 9: little Lead, they had a weight limit on the quaal key,

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Speaker 9: and unfortunately I was a bully.

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Speaker 4: A weight unfortunately fortunately because it turned out well indeed,

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Speaker 4: all right.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what he said, This is all I

801
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Speaker 2: wanted to do. You're doing that at a high level,

802
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: Charles Man. We appreciate you taking time out of your

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Speaker 2: Thursday hanging out with this man.

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Speaker 4: Give us one more thing, Give us one more thing,

805
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 4: Big Crossing, No, you gotta go.

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Speaker 3: We are gosh, don appreciate Charles oh Man.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna have to stop at the vmack and

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Speaker 4: come check you out.

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Speaker 9: Okay, okay, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, cross Man, have a great game on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Hey, somebody tell Big Play how this works here. You

812
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: guys who have been here. All right, we got we

813
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: got brakes, we gotta hit we had time, we gotta

814
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Speaker 2: hit the top shows. We come back, man, We live

815
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Speaker 2: on the radio. Bro, We'll go, We'll go around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: That's next here on Hawks Live.

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Speaker 1: Hawkss Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue

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Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air on

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Speaker 2: You are listening to Hawks Line presented by the Dining

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Speaker 2: disc Got the Bellvy Collection.

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Speaker 3: The show starts at seven every Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Right here in Seattle Sports seventeen, broadcasting live in Bellevue

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Speaker 2: Square Center Court. I am Michael Bamas along with Jordan Babno. So,

825
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: last time the Hawks played the Cardinals, they held them

826
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Speaker 2: to forty nine yards Russian Kyler Murray had no nine

827
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 2: yards rushing last week against the Vikings, who only allow

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Speaker 2: around seventy five yards per game.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to the rush game.

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Speaker 2: They allowed about what a buck fifty or something like that,

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Speaker 2: something close to that.

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Speaker 3: They got things going.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at what the Hawks were able

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Speaker 2: to do the last time they played the Cardinals, what

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Speaker 2: did you see in how do you think that can

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Speaker 2: transfer to this week's game?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You know, the one thing that stands out at least

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Speaker 4: offensively that that probably you know, has garner some attention

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Speaker 4: if they're tied in Trey McBride. I mean, I think

841
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 4: he went for over one hundred yards against the Hawks

842
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 4: in the first game. You look at his numbers, I mean,

843
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 4: ninety two targets this season, thirteen most in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: and he missed the game. I think the other thing too,

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Speaker 4: about a guy like Drey is probably fascinating too, isn't

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Speaker 4: He's yet to score touchdown?

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Speaker 3: Crazy a receiving touchdown.

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Speaker 2: I believe he has like yeah, yeah, receiving a rushing

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Speaker 2: touchdown and something else going on.

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Speaker 4: I think a fumber Recupah, yeah, a rushing touchdown from recovery.

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Speaker 4: But but I think the tight end position for the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals that that has been a bright spot for him.

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00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: James Connor has been dealing with some some you know, nurses,

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Speaker 4: some injuries. Their run game is kind of you know,

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00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 4: wavered a little bit. But again, the bright spot again

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Speaker 4: in the passing game is that tight end position.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the tight ends. The Hawks have had a tough

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Speaker 2: time with some tight ends. Obviously, George Kittle had a

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Speaker 2: couple of touchdowns the first time they played him. I

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Speaker 2: believe he had won the second time trade McBride. So

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Speaker 2: so then I look at the safeties because typically the

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00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: safeties and the nick are the ones we're gonna handle

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Speaker 2: the tight ends. And Julian Love has had himself a

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Speaker 2: good season. What have you seen out of Jay Love?

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Speaker 6: See?

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Speaker 3: It feels like a Pro Bowl season to me.

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Speaker 4: Back again, I mean back to back, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: how special would that be? I mean, that's hadn't happened,

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Speaker 4: that hadn't happened at the safety position for the Hawks

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Speaker 4: since I want to say Earl, Earl did it a

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Speaker 4: few years ago. But I think Julian Love has been

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Speaker 4: a staple, no drop off from last year success. He's

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Speaker 4: definitely been available giving all of the changes that's happened

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Speaker 4: in the secondary. Uh and then still kind of helping

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Speaker 4: you know, the young players, you know mature. So I again,

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Speaker 4: I I I see him high on the on the

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Speaker 4: on the ballot for Pro Bowl twelve. You guys are

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Speaker 4: responsible for getting Jay Love to the Pro Bowl again

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Speaker 4: this season?

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Speaker 5: Come on now, And I think voting is already open

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Speaker 5: that sort of thing. But yeah, Jay Love is.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's have a definitely a matchup challenge with

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Speaker 4: with Trey Bryan.

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00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: And and then and down in in Arizona. It's fun

885
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: to see the maturation of Jay Love.

886
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: He's already been a mature guy, but the maturation in

887
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: his role as far as here in Seattle because he

888
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: played behind Kwandre and Jamal and he was trying to

889
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: scraping to find some playing time.

890
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: And now he's the guy.

891
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: And you look at that safety room, man, you got

892
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: some guys over there. Man, Kobe has stepped up and

893
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: it's doing a good job. So I feel really good

894
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: about the safety position. I feel really really good about

895
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: the uh the Seahawks chances against the Cardinal this weekend. Okay,

896
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 2: short sweek for this one, but you guys don't go

897
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Speaker 2: anywhere when we come back, we will go around the NFL.

898
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: What is catching your eyes and your ears? That is

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Speaker 2: next here on.

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Speaker 1: Hawkslot Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the

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Speaker 1: Bellevue Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from

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Speaker 1: seven to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 1: If you're your hosts Michael Bumpis and.

905
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Speaker 2: Paul Moyer, you are listening to Hawk's Lide presented by

906
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Speaker 2: the Dining District at the Bellevue Collection. On Michael Pumps No,

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Speaker 2: Paul Boyer, we got Jordan Avenue today, Yes.

908
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 5: Yes, What a treat you guys have today.

909
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 4: I told you you guys just got upgraded from the

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Speaker 4: coach to first class.

911
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 3: Hey, y'all tell Boyer that too. What do you here

912
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: this week?

913
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 5: He's listening right now.

914
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: You'll better tell Moyer to that man.

915
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: But man, if you guys haven't been paying attention to

916
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: the Thursday night game, and it's thirty one and twenty eighth,

917
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: the Lions are up six minutes and thirty two seconds left.

918
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: The Packers have the football, the Lion's rubbed ten. Then

919
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: they're up seventeen to seven, and then the Green Bay

920
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: Package going twenty one to seventeen, and now the score

921
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: is thirty one to eighteen.

922
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: A lot going on there.

923
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: Hey, make sure you get out to the Bellvy Collection

924
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: dining district. So many great restaurants to choose from. Today

925
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: we had our pre show meal at Legions Sports Bar.

926
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: I had the Juicy Jerk Chicken sandwich.

927
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 3: It was bombed.

928
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: They have a great happy hour. It's a great place

929
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 2: to watch the Thursday night games too. You can't watch

930
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 2: it everywhere. If you don't have that Amazon Prime thing going,

931
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to watch it. You should

932
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: go there before and after Snowflake lame, So you know,

933
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: put the kids asleep, dude, you gotta do, put them

934
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: in the rocker and you go check it out. And

935
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: then they also have great Christmas cocktails. What is a

936
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: Christmas cocktail? All I know is eggnog. That's all I know.

937
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: So if you know anything else, holler at me and

938
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Speaker 2: let me know. Okay, all right, man, let's get into it.

939
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 2: It's time to go around the NFL. So I'm gonna

940
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask my guy about one of the plays

941
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 2: that were deemed dirty. I'm doing air quotes for guys

942
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: who aren't here right now, all right, for the millions

943
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: at home listing, Okay, dirty play you got asis for

944
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons hits Trevor Lawrence knocks him out, boom

945
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: Head hits the turf and a flag is thrown. I'm

946
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: sitting here with a safety who played during an era

947
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: where you could do that and it wasn't a flag.

948
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: It was a bit different now. But so how did

949
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 2: you break this play down? What did you see?

950
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 6: Babs?

951
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: Do you think it was warranted? Are there some compromising situations?

952
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: It's complicated in my opinion. What do you think you know?

953
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 4: I think that the tough thing now for defenders is

954
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: when do you think the quarterback is going to slide

955
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 4: or what do you think is actually going to fold

956
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 4: up and do a spin move and try to keep

957
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 4: running or get extra yards. And it makes it tough

958
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 4: for defenders really to play all out now. Again, I

959
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 4: think a lot of it is predicated to on looking

960
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 4: at the tape of the quarterback knowing that are they

961
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 4: a run more of a runner who they challenge defenders?

962
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, he may be made, you know, try to

963
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: run over your make a move. Lamar Jackson, he may

964
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 4: try to make a move. Look come on, man, there's

965
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 4: nothing happening with Trevor Lawrence. He don't have no wiggles

966
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 4: like that, you know. And he was already surrendering himself.

967
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing too, that that balled down

968
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 4: to wild was so egregious as it was because alsha

969
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 4: here has he has a history.

970
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 3: He got a history.

971
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 4: He had history, man, you know, and once you start

972
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 4: putting that on film and the powers that be in

973
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 4: the league is watching that, they're gonna protect the players.

974
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 6: Man.

975
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 4: You you have to know that they're gonna protect the players,

976
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 4: you know, what's the timing of it. You know, I

977
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 4: hate the bang bang plays in the moment of but

978
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 4: I think just mentally, you just gotta know that he's

979
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 4: probably gonna slide coming in.

980
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 5: With that kind of force.

981
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 4: Look, I think that was the three game suspension was

982
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 4: definitely warranted.

983
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: My if he didn't have the history that he had,

984
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: I would go to bat form a bit more. But

985
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: I also didn't like the way he responded after he

986
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: got up trying to fight. Everybody was like, bro, my

987
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: man is on the ground knocked out. Yeah, it was

988
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: a it was a dirty play. It is what it is.

989
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: People make mistakes. It's hard to play defense in the

990
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: league these days. I get that it was more of

991
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: his reaction afterwards, where I'm like, show some remorse and

992
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: be like, hey, my bad, you know, things happened.

993
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 3: That's the thing that got me with that.

994
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 4: So I though he eventually came out and apologized. But

995
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes in the heat of the moment, you know,

996
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I just you know, it can kind.

997
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: Of act outside myself.

998
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 4: But again, definitely warranted the three game suspension, and again,

999
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 4: if that happens again, I gotta believe that the league

1000
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: is probably gonna take a higher discipline in terms of

1001
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 4: what happens next.

1002
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 3: My man has had some fines.

1003
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: Man, some ten thousand and fifteen thousand dollars fines, So

1004
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: I think that complicates things.

1005
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 3: All right, Let's move on.

1006
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: Mike Holmgrid has emerged as a finalist for the Hall

1007
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: of Fame as a coach.

1008
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: Mike gave me my.

1009
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: Chance chance in the NFL one of the most nicest

1010
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 2: but demanding men I've ever worked with in my life.

1011
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 5: Nice.

1012
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't put nice well you on the defensive side.

1013
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 2: He didn't rock with you like he rocks with me.

1014
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 5: No.

1015
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: No, And I'll tell you what if I had my

1016
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 4: run ins with coach Honger many times, and I'll never

1017
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 4: forget the one story I'll share with coach Honer before

1018
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 4: we start talking about.

1019
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 5: His stats in his career.

1020
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 4: We were at away game and we're getting on the

1021
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 4: elevator and he was with security detail, and Mike takes

1022
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 4: his elevator up to the penhouse or wherever. He states,

1023
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 4: I've never been in one of those before, but the

1024
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 4: presidential suitep, the bell rings, the elevator opens up and

1025
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 4: it's home grown and security details Rick at the time

1026
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 4: and Homegren looks at us. I think it's myself and

1027
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 4: Marcus Truefons. He gives us the fingers like, yeah, take

1028
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 4: the next one. No problem coaching. There's those awkward moments,

1029
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 4: you know. But yeah, you talk about demanding, I mean

1030
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 4: he had a you know, first of all, he sits

1031
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 4: you know, six ' ten or whatever size, the stature

1032
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 4: of a man that just would just I mean he would.

1033
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: He had old school coaching tactics and ways to get

1034
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 4: guys motivated. But one of the most brilliant minds in

1035
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: terms of our offensive game and how the game has developed,

1036
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: you know, being under that.

1037
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: Bill wash coaching system, the coaching tree.

1038
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 4: And then Honger went on, I have a great coaching

1039
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 4: tree himself. All list out a few names, Andy Reid

1040
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 4: being at.

1041
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: The top of them.

1042
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 4: When you start to talk about Mike Hogan's uh, you know,

1043
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 4: you know projects. In terms of coaches, Ron Rivera, John Harbaugh,

1044
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 4: Sharan McDermott, Doug McDermott, and Doug Peterson, who may be

1045
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 4: on the hot seat, but again truly a high level

1046
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 4: of success winning three Super Bowls, a pioneer in terms

1047
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 4: of the NFL's growth and at West Coast passing offense

1048
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 4: and what he did definitely deserving of a Hall of

1049
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 4: Fame nomination for sure, Like you mentioned, gave both of

1050
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 4: us our chances. My my fondest memory of honger Is

1051
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 4: is a bit a bit more fond than yours.

1052
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: I guess always share mine was.

1053
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: I scored my first and only touchdown in the NFL,

1054
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: and I'm an undrafted free agent guy, Homer going, they

1055
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: got to talk to me. You know, he just says

1056
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: hello and he and he keeps it pushing. But I

1057
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: scored my touchdown. I left the football on the field,

1058
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: Juice Jones grabbed it for me, and Juice gives it

1059
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: to me. Homegrin walks over, and you know, it takes

1060
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: a lot for Homegren to sit down.

1061
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: And I'm sitting on the bench. He sits down, He

1062
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 3: sits down.

1063
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: He looks at me, He goes, you're welcome, stands right

1064
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: back up and goes like, hey, he called to play

1065
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 2: for your boy. I'll never forget he called that play.

1066
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: I knew on might score. So that was Home Grin.

1067
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: And he explained the office during install in a way

1068
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: that just made sense, at least to me. And the

1069
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: guys of my ro just make complete sins. So Mike

1070
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: Holmgren one of the greatest to do it. It's about

1071
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 2: dang time he's getting some recognition. I know Pete Carroll

1072
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 2: is going to get up most of the love here

1073
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: in Seattle, but Homegren kind of built this thing up

1074
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 2: and then Pete Carroll took it to another level.

1075
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.

1076
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 4: Indeed, all right, let's talk about the show what we

1077
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 4: used to call it, the Big Show.

1078
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 3: The Big Show.

1079
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So now let's talk about your boy,

1080
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: Doug Peterson.

1081
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 3: There. Every year, there's a cycle that goes on in

1082
00:47:59,280 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 3: the NFL.

1083
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: Guys get cut, players get cut, coaches get fired. So

1084
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: there are some guys, some coaches on the hot seat

1085
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: right now. Got day Ball with the Giants, Peterson with

1086
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: the Jaguars, Antonio Pierce with the Raiders, Zach Taylor with

1087
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: the Bengals.

1088
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: I think that's some warranty.

1089
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: Who's who has the hottest seat out of those four guys,

1090
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 2: day Ball, Peter Peterson, Pierce Taylor.

1091
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing with with Zach Taylor is

1092
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 4: the man They've been close in so many games, in

1093
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 4: those big games, those big moments, you got a quarterback

1094
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 4: like Joe Burrow, he can win the big game. Joe

1095
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 4: Burrow is the quarterback, like he could win a super Bowl,

1096
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 4: and they've.

1097
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 5: Just come up short.

1098
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 4: And I don't think it's a matter of you know,

1099
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 4: specifically like failure in terms of not getting the wins

1100
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 4: with Zach Taylor.

1101
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 5: It's just that the outcomes have.

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00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 4: Not been you know, productive or or you know, at

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00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: a place where they've made an AFC Championship game, they've

1104
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 4: had a Super Bowl appearance, they haven't. And you know,

1105
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 4: while he's turned that franchise around, he's got great talent.

1106
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: Window is is is really closing in terms of you know,

1107
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 4: weather management. It should be looking at the coaching staff

1108
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 4: in the change of you know, uh, philosophy and messaging.

1109
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 4: So I wouldn't say that he's he's not my number one,

1110
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 4: but he's certainly top three, probably not probably number one,

1111
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 4: you know.

1112
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,959
Speaker 3: Has to be what's happening in New York.

1113
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 4: I think Brian, uh, the ball is is I mean,

1114
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 4: looking looking at what they did with Daniel Jones, a

1115
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 4: high draft pick, an extension, they cut the guy I

1116
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 4: don't even want you on the team no more like

1117
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 4: and it's and it's gotten to a place where.

1118
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: Saying how I'm playing safety on practice. Squad man come on.

1119
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 4: That that that that messaging is pretty clear, and they

1120
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 4: ended up releasing him, cut him had you know, waved

1121
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 4: and and it ended up getting picked up.

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00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: I think by the vikings, right, we get he get

1123
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: picked up. He landed on another another teams.

1124
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Speaker 4: But but looking at looking at what's happened in New York,

1125
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 4: they they're they're not they're not in a good place.

1126
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 3: The franchises in disarray.

1127
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 4: And again another I think, you know, measurement in terms

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Speaker 4: of what the Hawks have done, even in their transition

1129
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 4: from Pete Carroll to Mike McDonald and having John Snyder,

1130
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 4: you know, still as a staple in terms of building

1131
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 4: that bridge for success, that the franchise is in a

1132
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 4: good position.

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00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 6: Yep.

1134
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of Seahawks fans ought to

1135
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 4: feel good about where the organization is, where it's been,

1136
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 4: and certainly there's been a lot of questioning after the

1137
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 4: loss of Paul Allen and what's next and you know,

1138
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 4: what's gonna happen with the team. They've done a great

1139
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 4: job of managing the organization's business to keep this organization

1140
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 4: relevant in the league.

1141
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 3: And here they are sitting.

1142
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 4: In first place as seven to five with a chance

1143
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 4: to position themselves to playoffs. I think that says a

1144
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 4: lot about the leadership of the organization.

1145
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: I agree one hundred percent. Schneider doing the same, Mike

1146
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 2: McDonald doing the same. And when we come back, we'll

1147
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 2: let you know about this week's opponent, the Arizona Cardinals.

1148
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: That's cut up next right here on Hawk's Live.

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00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,320
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00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,600
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1156
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,240
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1157
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,960
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1158
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Speaker 3: All right, have you been there? Making me hungry? Have

1161
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: you been there? I've been to both.

1162
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Speaker 5: Have you One has great pizza.

1163
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: One has good steak steak bites, the shrimp.

1164
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 4: Steak bites, the shrimp. There's a really bombed salad. I

1165
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 4: think it's the lesion salad hat you greens and the

1166
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 4: French fries are awesome.

1167
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 3: French fries are on point. Look at that.

1168
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Speaker 2: He does a little bit of everything, all right, a

1169
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: little bit of pizza a stuff. All right, man, it's

1170
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 2: time to go inside the film room. This is where

1171
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: we break down plays that went down. This first one,

1172
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: Geno Smith finds AJ Barner for a twelve yard touchdown.

1173
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 3: In the second Quarner play fade.

1174
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 10: Now, Gino's gonna roll to the left, gonna dump it off.

1175
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 11: Underneath Paula's coup, turning up field touchdown Seahawks A J.

1176
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: Barner.

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00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 11: The rookie slams the ball out of the back of

1178
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 11: the end zone and from twelve yards out, the Seahawks

1179
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 11: are on the scoreboard.

1180
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 3: I saw Aj at the hotel.

1181
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 10: He said, I'm gonna give you something to yell about.

1182
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 3: You just did that, young man.

1183
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: Congratulations AJ Barner scoring his second touchdown as a Seahawk

1184
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 2: coming off a Michigan big win over Ohio State. So

1185
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: it's only fitting that he does this thing. I'll tell

1186
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 2: you what I saw, Babs, and then you let me

1187
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: know what you see. This is just this is why

1188
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: I love under center when it comes to play action,

1189
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 2: when the quarterback gets under the center, turns his back

1190
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: to the defense, gives a nice little play action and

1191
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 2: AJ does a good job of taking care of the DM,

1192
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: showing that he is blocking one one thousand, two to

1193
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: one thousand. Then he releases to the flat. The DM

1194
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: thinks he has a straight shot to Geno. Gino drops

1195
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: it over the top. AJ gets in the end zone.

1196
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: I love under center play action.

1197
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know, the play action pass game certainly, Uh,

1198
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 4: you know, it's been successful for the Stocks, having that

1199
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Speaker 4: big play down the field, uh, you know, throwing throwing

1200
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 4: window for Geno, and that's when they're their best.

1201
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 6: You know.

1202
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 4: Certainly, the run game hasn't just been like dominant, because

1203
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 4: I think they're like the lesser or bottom part of

1204
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 4: the NFL in terms of yards per game. But it's

1205
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 4: effective and they ran the ball when they needed to.

1206
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 4: This play action pass game and this touchdown was set

1207
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 4: up by the previous play And we had AJ on

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00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 4: our post game show after the game. He said he

1209
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 4: had he shot out to Farroh Brown because he agitated

1210
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: the d N so much that he was ready to

1211
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 4: bull rush and he was engaged with Aj for you know,

1212
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 4: a couple of seconds before having that delay release to

1213
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: the flat that ended up being the that he needed

1214
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 4: to get open for the touchdown.

1215
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 2: I love that when a plan all comes together. AJ

1216
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: Brown scores a touchdown.

1217
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: I mean, was beautiful.

1218
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: This next play, Lender Williams picks off Aaron Rodgers and

1219
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: runs it back ninety two yards for a touchdown.

1220
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 10: All stays in the backfield again. Three receivers near sign.

1221
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 10: Adams has slotted on the right. Blitz is coming throw inside.

1222
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 6: It's picked off.

1223
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 11: Leo Williams coming near sign. He's running like a race horse.

1224
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 11: He's at midfield, turns up field at blockers. Holy smokes,

1225
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 11: are you kidding Leo Williams. It's gonna take it in

1226
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 11: for a touchdown?

1227
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 3: Seahawks.

1228
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 11: The Seahawks mess up a kick return, They dump it

1229
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 11: on the defense, and Leo Williams says, I got you covered,

1230
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 11: picks it off as he drops back into coverage, comes

1231
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 11: up the near sidelines in front of the bench, picks

1232
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 11: up blockers, and takes it all the way in for

1233
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Speaker 11: a touchdown.

1234
00:54:58,560 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

1235
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 5: All right?

1236
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 3: Defense? What'd you see there?

1237
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 5: I mean, so far we've had two great highlights.

1238
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 4: I didn't get a holy catfishing either one of them

1239
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 4: from Ravo. He might have been sleeping up there. If

1240
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 4: that was a phenomenal play. We talked about it in

1241
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 4: the early part of the show. You watched the Seahawks

1242
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 4: defensively they did it. I mean, it was a great

1243
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 4: disguise of showing zero blitz. They ended up dropping the

1244
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 4: defensive lineman Leo in the middle of that throwing window,

1245
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 4: and had Aaron Rodgers been a little more patient, Tarik

1246
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 4: Wooland fell down covering his guy. I mean it was

1247
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 4: wide open on the left side of the field. But

1248
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 4: you also talk about a change of how two plays

1249
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 4: really dictated the outcome of game, and I think Leo

1250
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 4: was responsible for let me see six blocked the pat

1251
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 4: seven and then the play before would have been a

1252
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,959
Speaker 4: touchdown had Aaron Rodgers hit the wide open receiver another six.

1253
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 4: So essentially Leo scored twelve points for the Hawks, and

1254
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 4: they say, including the points that he saved on Sunday,

1255
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 4: just phenomenal play. And you know, like with the spoon said,

1256
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 4: big man running, Big man running.

1257
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: I love seeing a three hundred pounder taken ninety two

1258
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: yards to the house. You might not see that again

1259
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 2: for another five to ten years.

1260
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you that I thought it was longer

1261
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: than that.

1262
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 4: Isn't that the longest eighties That's the longest touchdown by

1263
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 4: a defensive lineman of that size in NFL history?

1264
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, yep.

1265
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 5: And not only that, I think.

1266
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 4: He might have reached the speed of a cheetah the

1267
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 4: entire time that he was running.

1268
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 3: You know what's messed up about that?

1269
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: They clocked him at eighteen miles per hour. JNS was

1270
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 2: clocked in at nineteen miles per hour on one of

1271
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 2: his screens. Man, if i'm JSM man, we got to

1272
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 2: check the film, check the data, and make sure the

1273
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: measurements are on point. But hey, bass, what I like

1274
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 2: about this is that the big man did little man things.

1275
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: The way that he flipped his hips and dropped to

1276
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: the hook the hook to curl was impressive and then

1277
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: located the quarterback's eyes put his hands on the football.

1278
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 3: I forgot that he was drafted number six overall.

1279
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and that right there reminding me that he

1280
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 2: was drafted number six overall.

1281
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: The big man got it done. Out of usc love

1282
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: to see.

1283
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: Him, all right, This next play Gino Smith finds JSN

1284
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: for a twenty four yard gain on fourth and six.

1285
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 3: Well, this is.

1286
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 10: Dangerous right here. Fourth down and six for the Seahawks.

1287
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 10: Geno out of the shotgun, takes the snap play fake,

1288
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 10: looks gonna scramble.

1289
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 3: Now he's gonna throw. Got a man.

1290
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 11: Jns N makes the catch down to the twenty yard line.

1291
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Holy catfish?

1292
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 11: Geno Smith scrambling, spinning, throwing, and finds JSN on a

1293
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 11: deeper crossing round at the twenty for a twenty four

1294
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 11: yard gain on fourth and six.

1295
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 4: Man speaking glad, you gotta speak of a calffish lead

1296
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 4: and had some good calfish nuggets too, if y'all looking

1297
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 4: for something on calfish nuggets catfish nuggets. All right, we

1298
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 4: finally got a holy catfish. I mean, but you talk

1299
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 4: about a hey, what are you doing?

1300
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 3: Wait?

1301
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 5: Oh, that was a great play.

1302
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 4: Rapels like this could be dangerous, you know what great faith?

1303
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 5: Steve?

1304
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 4: Uh listen, that was just, you know, a play of will.

1305
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 4: And I think at this point McDonald had already made

1306
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 4: a decision.

1307
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 5: You know that we're we're done punting. You know, we

1308
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 5: can't punt. We're hurt in that position, Dixon is you know,

1309
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 5: facing back.

1310
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 4: Spasms or whatever he was dealing with on the sideline

1311
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 4: tightening up, And to me, I think that was that

1312
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 4: won the game. They went down and scored that drive,

1313
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 4: But you look at the decision and what it took to, you.

1314
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 3: Know, like regain momentum.

1315
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 4: The Seahawks were battling with trying to get some momentum

1316
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 4: and get some things going offensively. Now the Jets weren't

1317
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 4: doing anything either, but they were winning the field position battle.

1318
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 4: They had time of possession at that point. I think

1319
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 4: that decision and and Dixon, you know, Dixon's injury or

1320
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 4: you know, inability to punt garnered to win, and they

1321
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 4: they found a way to get that done. And much

1322
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 4: of it was attributed to that mentality of going forward

1323
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 4: backed up on fourth and six.

1324
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.

1325
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: And I think that Geno saw that they were in

1326
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: man felt some pressure and JSN just makes an adjustment.

1327
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: This was a quick game type of concept. JSM runs

1328
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: a little slant right there, sees that Geno's rolling to

1329
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: his left and says, all right, let's break this thing off.

1330
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go off top.

1331
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: Because he realizes that on the outside Locke is running

1332
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: an end route. So that's awareness right there, knowing what's

1333
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: happening outside of you, seeing your quarterback be in trouble,

1334
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 2: and then going and making a play.

1335
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 4: From a receiver perspective, you see a second year guy

1336
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 4: doing that. Watching Geno scramble to the left, there was

1337
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 4: nothing over there, and you saw.

1338
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 5: What he did.

1339
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 4: He just quickly threw his hand up escaped the defender.

1340
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 4: What does that say about JSN and how he's developing.

1341
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 2: As a second year that clock in his head, he

1342
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: feels it, He understands this is the time that I have,

1343
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: this is the space that I have, and I'm gonna

1344
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: go get it. That's a good old scrambl drill right there.

1345
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: Your quarterback gets outside the pocket and you go ahead

1346
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: and make a play for him. So those are our

1347
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: three plays that we break down every single week here

1348
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: on Hawks Live. When we come back, it's time to

1349
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 2: talk that talk. Let's see, we know he can talk

1350
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: that talk. That's big play baths. All he do is

1351
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 2: talk that talk, all right, that's coming up next here

1352
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: on Hawk's lot.

1353
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: It's time to talk that talk with Michael Bumpus and

1354
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: Palm Moyer on Hawks Live.

1355
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Hawks Live.

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01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: It is December, snowfake lane is going down. Kids are

1357
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: out way past their bedtime. Go to sleep kids. What

1358
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: time is this a thirty? My kids better be in

1359
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: bed by now, all right? You know my daughter does

1360
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 2: to buy herself some time show it says, all dad.

1361
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: I'm thirsty.

1362
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: You've been drinking water all day, all dad, I want

1363
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: to snack. No fruit snacks, all right, I have a

1364
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: banana or an apple or something like that. All right,

1365
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: trying some sweets before you go to sleep. You gotta

1366
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: brush your teeth all over again. I'm getting old and grumpy.

1367
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 5: Bass.

1368
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 3: Can you tell?

1369
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 9: Oh?

1370
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, easily to tell you're getting some grades up there too?

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01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 3: Brother, So hey, all natural, yeah, lean into it.

1372
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 6: You look good though.

1373
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: I appreciate you. I appreciate you, all right, and that

1374
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 3: it was time to talk to that talk man.

1375
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: That's where we we pick out some some topics, some statements,

1376
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 2: and you tell me if it's true or false, and

1377
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 2: I'll agree or disagree and we'll justify it. I'm sure

1378
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: you uh babs got like fifteen degrees, so I'm sure

1379
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: you went to law school at some point.

1380
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 3: And you know, we give you your best, your best

1381
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 3: lawyer right now, I'm not. I don't no law school.

1382
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 2: All right, bas has like got a doctor and something

1383
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: like that. He's always in school. I was done after college.

1384
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 2: He kept going, all right. First one, Leonard Williams has

1385
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 2: a chance to be among the best interior linemen to

1386
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: ever play.

1387
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 3: For the season.

1388
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 4: It's some crowd participation, all right, thumbs up or thumbs down.

1389
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 4: Leonard Williams among the best defensive lineman to play the game,

1390
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 4: interior defensive.

1391
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 5: They're like, who's Leonard Williams. Well, he's a man.

1392
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 3: He's a man.

1393
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 4: Just ball, And I definitely think Lendon Williams is dead

1394
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 4: this point. I think maybe we'll agree upon best interior

1395
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 4: defensive lineman for sure, having one of his best seasons

1396
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 4: as a pro and certainly been an impact for this defense.

1397
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 2: The best since Frank Clark, Right, Frank Clark before he

1398
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 2: left and went to the Chiefs and won them.

1399
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 3: At Super Bowl and did all that. Yeah, double Jesus Sacks.

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01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: I would say the best since Leonard Wims, or excuse me,

1401
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 2: Frank Clark or the best seasons is Jay Reed.

1402
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 3: Jay Reed had a good season.

1403
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 4: As an ulterior defensive linean. Then he had like ten

1404
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 4: sacks one year, something crazy like that. Yeah, you look

1405
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 4: at you look at that. But I mean he plays

1406
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 4: all the positions, So yeah, Lenna Williams definitely, that's a yes, unanimous.

1407
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: All right, all right, Next one who has made the

1408
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 2: greater impacts on the turnaround of this defense Leonard Williams

1409
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: or Ernest Jones.

1410
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's still the same. I mean Leonard

1411
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 4: Williams definitely still there. He made it easier for Ernest Jones. Now,

1412
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 4: Ernest Jones certainly came in and had a good impact.

1413
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 4: He's been here, I think four or five weeks leading

1414
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 4: the team in tackles since he's gotten here, and it's

1415
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 4: been a you know, a vocal guy in terms of

1416
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 4: leadership and shurring up that run game in those run lanes.

1417
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 4: But it's it's Leonard Williams making it easy for him.

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01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 3: This is where you're wrong.

1419
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: Leonard has been here the whole time, playing some good football.

1420
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: Ernest Jones is the one who started cleaning stuff up

1421
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: on the back. Yet how many times do we see

1422
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: Baker dip under a block? Dotson I dip under a block.

1423
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: Ernest Jones meets you with his hands and says, you know,

1424
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: what big cat, I'm gonna clean this up for you.

1425
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 2: So though Leonard Williams has had two crazy weeks, he's

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01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: been here.

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01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 3: As soon as Ernest Jones.

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01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 2: Got here, the blinker was on, and you start to

1429
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 2: make the turn that defense is doing his thing.

1430
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 3: I gotta go with Ernest Jones here.

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01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 4: Well, look again, like I said, at Ernest Jones, all

1432
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 4: he has to do is beat the guard from climbing

1433
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 4: to him. Because Lyndon Williams have both guys tied up.

1434
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 4: It's it's pretty easy just to outrun.

1435
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 3: A guy and go later or getting positioned. Okay, all right,

1436
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 3: our first disagreement. You got first disagreement.

1437
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: Next one, the Seahawks will score more than twenty points

1438
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 2: on Sunday, not including defensive scores. Defense put up fourteen

1439
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 2: points to last week one seven points, one week seven

1440
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: points the next week.

1441
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 3: What do you say?

1442
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 4: No, you know this, This, this Arizona defense is pretty good.

1443
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 4: Even going into two weeks ago when they played at

1444
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 4: at Lowman secondary.

1445
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 3: Wise, I think this they had.

1446
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 4: They were pretty stingy in terms of passing touchdowns from

1447
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 4: from that perspective and probably uh you know, less less

1448
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 4: prone or more.

1449
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 5: Prone to give up yardage in the run game.

1450
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 4: With with Grubb being a pass happy coordinator, I think

1451
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 4: he's gonna We're gonna continue to see Geno's attempts soar

1452
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 4: above thirty two attempts that could be dangerous for this defense,

1453
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 4: particular on the road.

1454
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 5: I don't see him scoring over twenty points.

1455
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 4: In fact, if they yeah, i'd have to look up

1456
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 4: to see where they been in the last few games sixteen,

1457
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 4: twenty six.

1458
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 3: And seven from the defense. Seven of it came from

1459
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 3: the defense.

1460
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 4: Look, you have to go back, I think since September

1461
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 4: to see the success of this offense early in the

1462
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 4: first quarter, but they've had some struggles starting fast. I

1463
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 4: don't see him scoring over twenty as to be another

1464
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 4: defensive battle.

1465
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: I would love for it to be a defensive battle,

1466
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 2: I really would. But I think that the offense finds

1467
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: a way to get the run game going. If the

1468
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: run game can get going, you got Satala Loo Maya

1469
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 2: at that right guard spot, maybe you tap into something

1470
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 2: that you haven't had all year, and K nine is

1471
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 2: able to find some lanes and have himself his first

1472
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 2: one hundred yard rushing game this season. He's had two

1473
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: of them things in twenty seven games. It's been a

1474
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: long time since we've seen K nine do it. So

1475
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 2: because I feel like they can get the run game going,

1476
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna score twenty four.

1477
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 4: They did offense, didn't score against the Cardinals, and I'm

1478
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 4: looking at it. They didn't score against the Cardinal defense.

1479
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 4: Score they only touchdown and they had three field goals.

1480
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 3: So you see the same thing as what you're saying. Nope,

1481
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 3: they won't score twenty. Now, gonna score twenty. They'll win

1482
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 3: the game, but they won't score. So it's gonna be

1483
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 3: like what seven seventeen. Yeah, it's a seventeen thirteen kind

1484
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 3: of ball game.

1485
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 9: Game.

1486
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, another another defensive matchup again, now we'll see them

1487
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 4: start to see this team stack wins.

1488
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 3: That's the philosophy inside the locker room.

1489
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 4: They're approaching it as a playoff game, already talking about

1490
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 4: that moving forward. That's the language inside the room, and

1491
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 4: and that'll be that's the approach.

1492
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: Another Dave Wyman type of game. Seventeen to thirteen. Let's

1493
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: get crazy. Let's go twelve, twelve to four or something

1494
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 2: like that. You know what I mean, Let's mix it up.

1495
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 3: That's pretty crazy. That sounds like a baseball score two

1496
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 3: safeties and a few field goals.

1497
01:06:55,280 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 2: All right, last one, the Seahawks will win the NFC West.

1498
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 3: I agree with that. All right, what do we think twelve?

1499
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 4: What do you think Twelve's Seahawks gonna take it down?

1500
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 4: Here we go Arizona, Green Bay, Minnesota, Chicago and the Rams.

1501
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 4: I mean it's a sprint. When you start to look

1502
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 4: at where they're at.

1503
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

1504
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 4: You know, from a standing standpoint right now, if the

1505
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 4: playoff started today, I think they'd be playing green Bay.

1506
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 5: Yep, you look at in green Bay. I think lost

1507
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 5: on a last.

1508
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 4: Second field goal tonight by Detroit. I mean, gutsy called

1509
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 4: by Campbell going forward on fourth and less than one of.

1510
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 3: The that's what he does.

1511
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 4: But but again it's that attitude like it just it

1512
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 4: just permeates throughout the organization, throughout the players.

1513
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 5: It instills confidence.

1514
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 3: In the team.

1515
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 7: Uh.

1516
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 4: And again that was very very similar to what McDonald

1517
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 4: did last week and going forward backed up on fourth

1518
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 4: down those those several times. But I think that I

1519
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 4: think they can take care of the NFC West. Uh,

1520
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 4: given given the rest of the schedule, two tough games

1521
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 4: Green Bay and Minnesota.

1522
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 3: But again starts with this week against the Cardinals.

1523
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 4: Getting that position and spreading out a little bit and

1524
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 4: making that run playing the best football in December.

1525
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 2: I think they win the NFC West as well. I

1526
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 2: think the Niners are banged up. I think the Cardinals

1527
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: will take this l on Sunday mess their whole thing up.

1528
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 2: I believe the Bills still have to play one more

1529
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: team in the NFC West is at the Rams.

1530
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 3: The Rams this weekend.

1531
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,799
Speaker 2: So the Bill's gonna help a brother out this weekend

1532
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 2: and take care of the Rams, and I think we're

1533
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 2: looking good.

1534
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 3: Here's my question for you.

1535
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Speaker 2: You mentioned Dan Campbell's aggressiveness.

1536
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 3: Does it bite them in the butt again?

1537
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 2: Or do you think that the Lions make it to

1538
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 2: the conference championship game well, even though they were a

1539
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 2: player or two away from going to the super Bowl.

1540
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 4: I know, I know, and you gotta think if you're

1541
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 4: in the if you're Detroit, I mean, it's Super Bowl

1542
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 4: or of us, you know, I mean, like they're they're

1543
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 4: they're pretty high in terms of you know, being a

1544
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 4: super Bowl contender in ar but uh, you know, you

1545
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 4: got teams like Philly who's playing as good as they are,

1546
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 4: and you know there's always that one little wildcard team

1547
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 4: that ends up.

1548
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 5: Being a Cinderella story.

1549
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 4: I'm just looking at the rest of the NFC West

1550
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 4: and looking at the Rams schedule.

1551
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,799
Speaker 5: DRAMs play the Bills this weekend.

1552
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 4: You mentioned that, but they also have they play three

1553
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 4: division games in the last five.

1554
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:19,879
Speaker 5: Same thing with the Cardinals.

1555
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 4: They have three division opponents in the last five, but

1556
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 4: the other two games against the Panthers, which you know,

1557
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 4: not a very good team.

1558
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 3: Uh.

1559
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 4: And then they finish up with the New England Patriots.

1560
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 4: So again, Seahawks in good position. Just got to take

1561
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 4: care of business.

1562
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 2: All right, taking care of business every day. You know

1563
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 2: that's Song taking care of business.

1564
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 3: Something like that.

1565
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 4: Every day he's warming up for carryoke.

1566
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 3: We gotta carryok, you gotta carry.

1567
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 5: Ok burthdays Next Friday, Friday to thirteen. Give it up

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01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 5: A Michael Bump is turning the year next Friday.

1569
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 3: I will be twenty seven next week.

1570
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: Again, when we come back, we'll give you our final thoughts.

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01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 3: That's next here on.

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Speaker 4: Now Bump does every all. They always stay this late.

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01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 4: I mean we've been on air for two hours. We

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01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 4: started with about fifteen hundred. The crowd moved a little bit.

1582
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 4: I mean it's still at least twelve hundred people still here.

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01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 5: Well, they stayed like this.

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01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: For Paul, it's because you're here. Honestly, that's why. Wow,

1585
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 2: Because big plays I.

1586
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Speaker 4: Told you this was a first class treat today. Baby,

1587
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Speaker 4: here we go. We're gonna send.

1588
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 5: Some warm cashews and hand towels with lemon.

1589
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Speaker 2: So when you guys get upgraded to first class because

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Speaker 2: of your mileage, you just say thanks bad. It's the

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Speaker 2: babdel treatment. Here we go, right here, let's go all right, Well,

1592
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 2: last segment of the day. You guys have done a

1593
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 2: great job being involved to participating. We got the lucky

1594
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 2: young ladies to our right over here who won both

1595
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 2: of the raffles. I'm gonna have to check you guys

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Speaker 2: for a performance enhancing drugs.

1597
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 5: Here soon sounds like we're going to pizza.

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Speaker 3: We got a check.

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Speaker 2: We go we're going to Moto and we're going to

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Speaker 2: what was the other one out le Legion. Okay, you

1601
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 2: guys got dates right here. Okay, all right, man, let's

1602
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 2: put a ball on this thing. It's time to talk

1603
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 2: about what to expect from this Arizona Cardinals team. You

1604
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 2: think they can duplicate the performance that they had a

1605
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,799
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. And if they were to duplicate

1606
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 2: that performance, that means they would hold the Cardinals to

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01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:49,520
Speaker 2: forty nine yards rushing. Kyler Murray had nine yards rushing himself,

1608
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 2: and I believe I just did a podcast with Nasa Troby,

1609
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 2: our producer, earlier today James Connor had like what eight

1610
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 2: yards or something like that on the day. It was

1611
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 2: something crazy. So if they are to do that, is

1612
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 2: that a guaranteed victory?

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01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 6: Best? Yeah?

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01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,839
Speaker 4: I think Connor finished with seven attempts for eight yards,

1615
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,919
Speaker 4: and you know, overall performance in terms of the Seahawks defense,

1616
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 4: stopping the run was the recipe.

1617
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 3: To win that game.

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01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 4: Look, it was a dog fight, only putting up sixteen points,

1619
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 4: but it was that eight minute drive in the final

1620
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 4: fourth quarter that put the game away. Eight minutes it

1621
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 4: ended up leading into a scoring drive a fifty yard

1622
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,799
Speaker 4: field goal from Jason Myers, who's been extraordinary from long distance.

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01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 9: There.

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01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 4: He's a great weapon for the Seahawks in terms of

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01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 4: their ability to finish drives with points.

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01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 5: Look if they can hold the Cardinals.

1627
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 4: So this kind of performance on the run game, again,

1628
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 4: that's the recipe to win. Do you do this on

1629
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 4: the road. It puts you in a position to win.

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01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 4: The other thing that stood out to me, I believe

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01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 4: was third down. I think the Seahawks win fifty on

1632
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 4: third down that game. So the ability to extend those

1633
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 4: drives well in reach and gino, you know, protecting the

1634
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 4: football is deal.

1635
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 2: The offense gotta score some points, man, they gotta score

1636
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 2: some points. It's been a while since we've seen this

1637
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: offense look like the team we saw for the first

1638
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 2: what three quarters of the season, to the point where

1639
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 2: at right now coming into this season, we felt like

1640
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 2: the offense had to lead the charge. That's exactly what

1641
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 2: they did during their three game winning streak.

1642
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 3: Then you lose a few, you.

1643
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: Start to figure some things out, and now the defense

1644
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,759
Speaker 2: is caught up. And typically when you start the season,

1645
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 2: the defense is usually ahead, but in this scenario, the

1646
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: offense was ahead. But then you look back to what

1647
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 2: Mike McDonald did with the Ravens. It took him seven

1648
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 2: eight weeks to get that defense going. So it makes

1649
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 2: sense that this time of year the defense is starting

1650
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 2: to figure some things out. But JSN has been on

1651
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,560
Speaker 2: a tear. He's had the third most yards in the

1652
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 2: last three weeks. When it comes to receivers in the NFL,

1653
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm looking for DK. DK still is averaging about fifteen

1654
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 2: point three yards per reception at his top six or

1655
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 2: seven in the NFL. I think it's due for him

1656
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 2: or he's due to have a.

1657
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 3: Big game JSN or DK.

1658
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 4: Well, look, if you get DK going, we know what

1659
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 4: he does to the offense in terms of big plays,

1660
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 4: big plays in the passing game, twenty yards or more.

1661
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 4: This this they they in most cases lead to points.

1662
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 4: And this team has really thrived in those moments. Now again,

1663
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 4: you heard you listen to the press conferences and DK

1664
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 4: talking about it. It's like, to me, specifically on the road,

1665
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 4: they gotta they gotta produce some early points, and you

1666
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 4: gotta produce some early wins in the drive. I mean,

1667
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 4: it's gonna build confidence in your quarterback, not feeling like

1668
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 4: you have to go out and force throws, make airing

1669
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 4: decisions in terms of you know, quantity of brawl protection

1670
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 4: and and you know what they did. The other thing

1671
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 4: that they did obviously five sacks that got to the

1672
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 4: quarterback and held them to six points.

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01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 3: That's that's a winning recipe.

1674
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 4: I think the early success, the early wins in Q one,

1675
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 4: like I mentioned, you gotta go back to I believe

1676
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 4: Sepetember game against Detroit where they scored a first quarter

1677
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 4: touchdown on offense. They had a first quarter touch down

1678
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,759
Speaker 4: against the Giants. Well that was a Ray Sewan fumble

1679
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 4: recovery for.

1680
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 3: One hundred and two yards. Dang, that was a long

1681
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 3: time ago.

1682
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know, different team now, right, I

1683
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,799
Speaker 4: mean completely different. So in terms of offense production, particularly

1684
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 4: on the road, they won time in possession two weeks ago. Again,

1685
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 4: that's another recipe, part of the ingredients to win.

1686
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 3: Man.

1687
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 2: So that's three defensive touchdowns for this team this year

1688
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 2: and two over ninety yards.

1689
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 3: You got a ninety two a one o one one

1690
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 3: o one one o.

1691
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 2: Two, and then you got a sixty nine yard by

1692
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 2: Kobe exposive plays on defense. Man, that's awesome. All right,

1693
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 2: Can we finally get the run game going. I mean,

1694
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 2: that's that's the one piece we haven't seen. We've seen

1695
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 2: the offense look great and horrible. We've seen the defense

1696
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 2: look great and horrible. We've seen special teams look good

1697
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 2: and horrible. Now we've seen the run game. That's like

1698
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 2: all right and and bad. So let's get these guys

1699
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 2: going a little bit. A lot of people focus on

1700
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 2: that offensive line, and I think you should, but I

1701
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 2: think it comes down to K nine giving the run

1702
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: a chance, being a bit more patient, and being okay

1703
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 2: with with three to four yards. When you play against

1704
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: a RB that's always looking for the cutback, what does

1705
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 2: that do for a defense?

1706
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not.

1707
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 4: I mean generally, and you know this better, A lot

1708
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 4: of times in the run game, keep it front side,

1709
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:25,600
Speaker 4: unless it's a design cutback or or it's a specific

1710
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 4: front by the defense that they're playing, and that could

1711
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 4: mean that it's over shifted to one side, which you know,

1712
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 4: could leave advantage to the Seahawks in terms of number

1713
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 4: of blockers. But you look at, uh, you know K

1714
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 4: nine's rushing statistics for the season.

1715
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 5: He's had one one hundred yard game and that's.

1716
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 3: That was game one against against Denver.

1717
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 4: You know, since then, at least you know the last

1718
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 4: you know, two games sixteen carries each, didn't clip fifty

1719
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 4: yards in any one of those contests, and you know

1720
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 4: his most successful game, you go back and look at

1721
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 4: the twenty five that he had against the Rams for

1722
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 4: over eighty yards.

1723
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 5: Again, time of possession is essential.

1724
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 4: Running the football obviously creates the open opportunities for play

1725
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 4: action pass game, but then one when you're doing that too,

1726
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 4: you also can create the one on one matchups on

1727
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 4: the outside. And I think if you're unable to establish

1728
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 4: a run game, you'll see the double teams on DK,

1729
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 4: You'll see them mixing up coverages on JSN, sometimes confusing

1730
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 4: the looks for the quarterback.

1731
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,879
Speaker 3: So again, run game is important.

1732
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 4: Does it always have to be one hundred and fifty

1733
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 4: yard run performance to be successful. I don't think so.

1734
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 4: But they have to be able to run the football

1735
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 4: at the right times. And when you're sitting on the

1736
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 4: goal line inside the five yard line and you have

1737
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 4: eight attempts to score and none of them lead to

1738
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 4: a touch of fact that turnover on downs, those kinds

1739
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 4: of you know, uh, misadvantages or this you know, you know, opportunities,

1740
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 4: missed opportunities, you know, versus really good football teams playoff.

1741
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 4: Contending football teams like the Vikings, like Detroit, like Green

1742
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 4: Bay will come back to bite you.

1743
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 2: You gotta be able to punch it in. You gotta

1744
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,440
Speaker 2: be able to get physical when the defense.

1745
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 3: Knows you are going to run the football.

1746
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 2: You gotta be able to say, so what, let's get

1747
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 2: after it. So I think that's, uh, that's the next step.

1748
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 4: I mean, we asked Charles Cross you know early on

1749
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 4: the show. You know, Collins played from the one yard line.

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Speaker 4: What did he say, bump?

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Speaker 3: What did he say?

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01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 5: He say, QB.

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01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 3: I not ready for that. Though, I'm not ready for that.

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 2: Hey, when they line up in those a gaps, it

1756
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 2: makes me a big concern.

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01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 4: So, hey, there's one team that doesn't care on short

1758
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 4: yard is what you think or how many guys you

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01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 4: put in the box were gonna toush push this thing

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01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 4: across that line? And they've been successful at it. So,

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Speaker 4: I mean, again, a lot of it is will in

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01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 4: shortyard situation, but offensive linemen have to feel like the

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01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 4: onus is on them in short yard situations to get

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01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 4: moving up front.

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Speaker 3: To get that first down.

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01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's get physical. Then let's get physical. All right, man, Hey,

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01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 2: that's it for us. Man, give it up a babanon.

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01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 2: He just made this show first class.

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01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 3: Okay.

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01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 2: I was sitting in business class. I was comfortable, you know,

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01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: I could cross my legs. But then you get in

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01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 2: that first class. Once you go first class, you don't

1773
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 2: want to go back. Trust me, if you ain't been there,

1774
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 2: don't do it unless you're ready.

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01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 5: For it to change your life.

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01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 3: All right. Ay.

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Speaker 2: Special things to Roy Robinson, Harris Man, Big Play Baby

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01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 2: a Charles Cross as well for joining the show. Our

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Speaker 2: board operator is Noah rittter rod on site engineers the

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01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: lovely Brendan Rodgers production assistant it's actually Oaks, and our

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01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 2: executive producer is Nasa Troby. The Seahawks pregame show was

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Speaker 2: live this Sunday starting at ten am.

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Speaker 3: Until next time, this has been Hawk's live