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Speaker 3: dot com. Turning now to Tucker Carlson's interview with Joe Kent.

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Speaker 3: So first we're going to start here with some news

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Speaker 3: at the top. Let's put it up here on the screen,

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Speaker 3: breaking from Semaphore last night. Joe Kent is now under

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Speaker 3: FBI investigation for allegedly leaking classified information. I'm told the

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Speaker 3: investigation predates his departure.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it does. So, I'm sure, sure sure that

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Speaker 1: it does.

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Speaker 3: Call that one tweeted out a clip of our segment,

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Speaker 3: and I checked the time. I think we recorded it

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Speaker 3: eight minutes after he resigned, and I was like, they're

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Speaker 3: gonna indet him, and I knew, I know the playbook.

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Speaker 3: You know why because it happened to Dan Caldwell. And

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Speaker 3: what happened with Dan Caldwell. They accused him of being

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Speaker 3: a leaker, he was fired, they drug his name through

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Speaker 3: the mud, And just yesterday it was announced that he's

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Speaker 3: been completely cleared of all wrongdoing and that the Odie

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Speaker 3: and I polygraphed and security has restated his security clearance.

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Speaker 1: It'll be allowed back into the government. So just so

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Speaker 1: you're all aware about the.

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Speaker 3: Last time they said somebody with some anti war sympathies

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Speaker 3: and accused him of being a leaker. This is obviously

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Speaker 3: complete bullshit FBI, Keystone, Cash and all of these other

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Speaker 3: people claiming that this is some you know, oh a leak. Listen,

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Speaker 3: I knew it was coming. They cannot let this slide.

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Speaker 3: Why because Joe is too important. He's too important, He's

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Speaker 3: the biggest voice historically, no sub cabinet official, remember Senate

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Speaker 3: confirmed has ever resigned in protests over a war like

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Speaker 3: not in Vietnam, not Iraq. I mean, this is Daniel

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Speaker 3: Ellsberg level of coming out and the courage to do so.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, no hate of de Ellsburg, who I love,

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Speaker 3: but he waited until the nineteen seventies to come out

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Speaker 3: we're talking about in the mix, Yeah said, this is

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Speaker 3: a nightmare disaster and I cannot be in good conscience.

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Speaker 2: It reminds me of some of like the Watergate resignations

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Speaker 2: like that, that kind of parallel. I mean, they you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't believe this administration, and I think you're probably

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Speaker 2: right that the allegations are complete bullshit that he was

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Speaker 2: a leaker. If he did league though, I wouldn't blame him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was trying. He was banging's hat against

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Speaker 2: the wall, watching the according to you know, what he

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Speaker 2: said and what Marco Rubio and others have basically confirmed that,

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Speaker 2: watching the Israelis come in and lie to the president

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Speaker 2: about what an imminent threat Iron is blah blah blah

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Speaker 2: there was, according to to Kent and will play these

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Speaker 2: clips for you in a moment. You know, there was

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Speaker 2: a lot of debate leading up to the Twelve Day War.

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Speaker 2: Leading up to this one, anyone who would have been

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Speaker 2: a dissenting voice was just completely and utterly shut out.

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Speaker 2: So if he wanted to try to influence the president.

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Speaker 2: His only path would have been to go to the press.

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Speaker 2: So again I'm not saying he did that. I remained

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Speaker 2: very skeptical of these claims, but if he did, I

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Speaker 2: would see that as you know, a patriotic act of

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Speaker 4: This wall that had been built.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I like Trump is responsible for the

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Speaker 2: fact by the way that that wall is built, that

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Speaker 2: he surrounded himself with complete sick efens who were just

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Speaker 2: telling him what he wanted to hear about how great

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Speaker 2: this war would be, and how easy it would be,

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Speaker 2: and how the regime watappel immediately, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's get actually into some of the clips

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Speaker 3: here from the interview E two. Let's start with this

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Speaker 3: declarative statement from a man with the highest security clearance

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Speaker 3: in the United States government, national counter Terrorism director, as

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 5: Was Roan on the verge of getting a nuclear weapon?

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Speaker 6: No, they weren't, you know, three weeks ago, and this started,

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Speaker 6: and they weren't in June either. I mean, the Irions

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Speaker 6: have had a religious ruling of fatua against actually developing

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Speaker 6: Iranian strategy, it's actually pretty pragmatic. The Iranians are obviously

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Speaker 6: he said, hey, I've got no more nukes.

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Speaker 7: I'll do what you say. I'll give up my nukes.

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Speaker 1: And we gave them a vol peace price.

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Speaker 6: We regime changed him and he was executed by his

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Speaker 6: own people in the most horrific.

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Speaker 8: Oh Sodom bayonet.

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Speaker 6: Right, The Iranians position, when viewed from the lens of

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Speaker 6: They wanted the ability to enrich They wanted the ability

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Speaker 6: to have some components so that they weren't completely stripped

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Speaker 6: of it. And when we always assessed that they were

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Speaker 7: And that's not because the Iranians are stupid people.

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Speaker 6: I think we can tell right now that the Iranians

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Speaker 6: could have simply traded a ton of oil with Pakistan

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Speaker 6: were not doing that. We had no indication, no intelligence

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Speaker 3: Does that sound like a bunch of religious fanatics who

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Speaker 3: don't think or what do they say? They're at theocracy,

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Speaker 3: they want the end times, they hate us all very much.

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Speaker 1: What do you hear from that? Highly highly pragmatic.

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Speaker 3: You have people who respond to circumstances, thought very deeply

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Speaker 3: about the types of decisions they were making. But most importantly,

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Speaker 3: no imminent threat. No eminent threat. Okay, so what they

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Speaker 3: said is bs completely and I know that might be

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Speaker 3: obvious to the viewers of our show. In the hopes

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Speaker 3: that this reaches many many people, remember that the Pentagon,

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Speaker 3: the White House, White House pres Secretary, the President of

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Speaker 3: the United States, the Secretary of State, all of them

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Speaker 3: have said that this is an imminent threat. And as

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Speaker 3: Kent explains very clearly, the only imminent threat was Israel's

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Speaker 3: imminent threat to the country of Iran, who was then

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Speaker 3: going to attack Israel. And yes, the United States of

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Speaker 3: America bases which protects Israel, and as a result, we

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Speaker 3: had to go in and preemptively strike Israel's preemption.

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Speaker 1: When you put it that way, it's a real different

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Speaker 1: imminent threat, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: And I think that that, you know, coming out of

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Speaker 3: the mouth of somebody who had access to the intelligence,

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Speaker 3: for the previous one on Midnight Hammer, and he went

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Speaker 3: through some of that. I just have no other conclusion than, like,

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Speaker 3: you have a president who is completely captured here by

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Speaker 3: Israeli interests and logic, and for whatever reason, he refuses to,

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Speaker 3: you know, to say no, as Kent says, is an option.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not blaming his.

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, it's their fault too, but I'm saying Trump

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Speaker 3: is incapable of doing this.

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Speaker 1: He is incapable, and he has now shown us that.

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Speaker 3: And if you listen to this interview, and we're about

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Speaker 3: to get to even some more shocking stuff around.

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk and all of that.

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Speaker 3: Like, I do not have another conclusion in that. That

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Speaker 3: is the only conclusion I can draw. Well, he's terrified.

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Speaker 3: He's either terrified or he agrees. I don't know what's worse.

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Speaker 3: I prefer terrified. It was at least maybe we can

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Speaker 3: get out of that.

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Speaker 2: We still see Trump parenting these insane Israeli talking points.

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Speaker 2: It was deeply disturbing to me when he said that

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Speaker 2: the you know, the the celebrate the pro government demonstrations

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Speaker 2: industreet that they were fake, that they were AI And look,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what he believes in, what are lies

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Speaker 2: or whatever, it seemed to me like he actually believed that,

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Speaker 2: or at least he believed it had enough credibility to report,

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Speaker 2: you know, repeat it to the American public.

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Speaker 4: That comes directly from the Israelis.

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Speaker 2: So there's no doubt, you know, the influence campaign that

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Speaker 2: they successfully launched here. And I want to pair this

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Speaker 2: Joe Kent's comments there about how no imminent threat. No,

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Speaker 2: they were not developing a nuclear weapon. That is not

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Speaker 2: what we assessed at all. With Tulci Gabbard's testimony yesterday,

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Speaker 2: where she was asked about this as well, John Ossoff

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Speaker 2: pressed her on you listen, you said last summer, this

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Speaker 2: nuclear threat was obliterated, that their nuclear program was obliterated.

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Speaker 4: So what's going on here?

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Speaker 1: This is d one.

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Speaker 4: Let's listen to that.

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Speaker 9: That opening statement, as submitted to the committee in advance

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Speaker 9: summer's airstrikes, quote, Iran's nuclear enrichment program was obliterated end

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Speaker 9: quote correct. That's right, And is that, in fact the

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Speaker 9: assessment of the intelligence community. Yes, So the assessment of

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Speaker 9: the intelligence community is that Iran's nuclear enrichment program was

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 9: And the opening statement you submitted to the committee last

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Speaker 9: night also stated, quote there has been no efforts since

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Speaker 9: then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability end quote.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 9: That's right, and that's the assessment of the intelligence community.

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Speaker 10: Yes.

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Speaker 9: The White House stated on March first of this year

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Speaker 9: that this war was launched and was quote a military

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Speaker 9: campaign to eliminate the imminent nuclear threat posed by the

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Speaker 9: Iranian regime end quote, that's a statement from the White House,

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Speaker 9: quote the imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime?

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Speaker 9: Was it the assessment of the intelligence community that there

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Speaker 9: was an imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime?

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Speaker 10: The intelligence community assessed that Iran maintained the intention to

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Speaker 10: rebuild and to continue to grow their nuclear enrichment.

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Speaker 9: Was it the assessment of the intelligence community that there

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Speaker 9: was a quote imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 10: Or no, Senator, the only person who can determine and

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Speaker 10: what is and is not an imminent threat is the president.

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Speaker 2: False, So she won't say it, Well, that's not really

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Speaker 2: my job.

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Speaker 4: That's up to the president.

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Speaker 3: The only passion who can determine an imminent threat is

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Speaker 3: the pre No, No, not truely your job? Yes, what

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Speaker 3: is your job is to determine which she knows. She knows,

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Speaker 3: but she's unwilling to just outright lie, so she dodges

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Speaker 3: by saying, well, the President and all his brilliance and

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Speaker 3: defer to, and only he can really, with his magical abilities,

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Speaker 1: I want to make that very clear.

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Speaker 3: We're not Charlie Kirk conspirat. We're not Egyptian planes. People

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Speaker 4: There were some sorts of questions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the current evidence says what Tyler Robinson Charlie Kirk okay,

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Speaker 4: And he said this will be done intentionally so.

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Speaker 4: Nothing to see here. We're all moving on exactly.

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Speaker 1: I really wouldn't. Yeah, we didn't do.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean literally, look at the guy, right, he's

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Speaker 3: a loser, and so all right, I believe it. But

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Speaker 3: then the National counter Terrorism Director or NCTC director Odie

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Speaker 3: and I high security clearance in the world, exits the

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Speaker 3: government and starts talking about it in the context of

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Speaker 3: Trump's behavior Visa VI Israel, and you're like, holy shit, man,

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Speaker 3: I mean he is drawing in conclusion, which look, he

447
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Speaker 3: could be.

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Speaker 1: Wrong, but he's got a lot more information than I do.

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Speaker 3: And then he draws the Charlie Kirk situation into that

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Speaker 3: as well, and he's like, maybe he feels like he's

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Speaker 3: at threat.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Another section I don't know if you noticed, was him

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Speaker 3: and Tucker talking about breaches in Trump's security.

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Speaker 1: So what you know, I hadn't thought about this.

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Speaker 3: They talked about Code Pink, you know, being at a

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Speaker 3: dinner and we should actually ask me.

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Speaker 1: We should just call her an asker.

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Speaker 3: Benjamin, because they were like, look to us, that seemed

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Speaker 3: like a huge crack in the president's security.

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Speaker 2: Just to remind people who may have forgotten, you know,

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Speaker 2: Trump showed up to have dinner at a local restaurant

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Speaker 2: and Code Pink activists that had gotten a heads up

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Speaker 2: that he was going to be going there, and they were.

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Speaker 4: They were inside of.

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Speaker 1: The restaurant it was coming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this was you know, this was pre planned.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't just like, oh my god, there's the motorcade,

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Speaker 2: let's go. This was a pre planned protest, which is

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Speaker 2: their right to do. But for the president's security, how

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Speaker 2: that raises obviously raises crazy questions about how do they

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Speaker 2: get access to this information? And then he mentioned another

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Speaker 2: time when there was someone who was apparently just like

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Speaker 2: a fan, but who wanted a handshake and was able

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Speaker 2: to get like, you know, to anticipate where Trump was

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Speaker 2: going to be and be able to get right at

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Speaker 2: him to get this handshake. Well, you know it's a supporter.

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Speaker 2: So no, there's no harm that was done. But again,

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Speaker 2: this is a massive security breach. So he intentionally raises

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Speaker 2: those two things as.

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Speaker 3: Like, what is going I'm looking at this now. This

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Speaker 3: is just from twenty fifteen. NYPD suspends detective who's snuck

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Speaker 3: into the Ryder Cup pretending to be on Trump's security detail.

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I mean both of these are crazy.

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Speaker 3: I was part of the White House Press Corps and

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Speaker 3: I had to go to restaurants when Trump would go dine,

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Speaker 3: we didn't even know where he was going. They just said,

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Speaker 3: Trump is on his way to a restaurant. Really, okay,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean we could assume we thought he

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Speaker 3: usually it's the Trump's Steakhouse, so that's what we think,

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Speaker 3: but we didn't know. So I was literally in the

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Speaker 3: van behind the motorcate and I didn't know where I

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Speaker 3: was going. For context, so how do other people know

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Speaker 3: where he's going? Who tipped him off? What they're point

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Speaker 3: I guess what they're saying is that in all of

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Speaker 3: these they're pointing to various different like warnings and look,

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Speaker 3: I get it. This sounds like something out of a novel,

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Speaker 3: like some Tom Clancy level nonsense. But he seems to

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Speaker 3: believe it's real. And if he does, then maybe I

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Speaker 3: should and maybe all of you should. So yeah, wow,

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Speaker 3: I just don't know. I mean, I will say for Joe,

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Speaker 3: it's pretty clear he wants to He is desperate try

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Speaker 3: and get a message to Trump the or being controlled

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Speaker 3: by these reelies, and he's like begging him for framp

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Speaker 3: and to try to get out of this. That seems

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Speaker 3: to be his main goal in resigning. He said at

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Speaker 3: the end, you hold the cards. But I do think

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Speaker 3: it's like a desperate cry for help at the end

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Speaker 3: that letter saying at the end you have the cards.

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Speaker 3: He's trying to like shake, He's like, you have the cards,

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Speaker 3: like you're in control.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's scary. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, the last thing I'll say about it is, you know,

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Speaker 2: I raised this immediately and I said something similar about Tucker,

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Speaker 2: like I understand. First of all, I just want to

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Speaker 2: say I really appreciate that. I think it takes a

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Speaker 2: lot of courage to resign and to speak out in

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Speaker 2: this way, and his life is about to be a

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Speaker 2: bended if it's not already. Soger immediately called it, and

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Speaker 2: sure enough, he's under investigation, you know, threatened with indictment.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna do what they can to destroy this man.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt about that, And so

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Speaker 2: we should all be grateful to him for coming forward

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Speaker 2: and you know, making his concerns known.

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Speaker 4: I think tactically he's decided.

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Speaker 2: If you listen to this interview with Tucker, like he

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Speaker 2: is very almost worshipful of Trump. Only Trump can give

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Speaker 2: usend his negotiating skills, and he's the whole reason why

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Speaker 2: we had her on at the table. And of course

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Speaker 2: I'm listening to this and going like, this is the

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Speaker 2: same man who tore up the nuclear deal to come

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Speaker 2: in with so come on, right, But in any case,

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Speaker 2: clearly this is his tactic. But he thinks if he's

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Speaker 2: just sufficiently praise full of Trump and tries to you know,

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Speaker 2: word things properly so that his fragile ego isn't hurt

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Speaker 2: and he gets the message in that he's being controlled

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Speaker 2: and it's really not his fault, and he could get

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Speaker 2: that maybe that's the way to have influence. And I

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Speaker 2: just I think that ship has sailed. I think at

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Speaker 2: this point, you know, your best your best weapon right

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Speaker 2: now in this fight is the full unvarnished truth. And

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Speaker 2: because there continues to be very clearly a level of,

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Speaker 2: you know, a layer here of I don't want to

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Speaker 2: say deception because that's too strong of a word. But

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Speaker 2: he's holding back that criticism of Trump because he's trying

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Speaker 2: to play this game of persuading Trump and it's still

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Speaker 2: sort of an inside game. It does take them away

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Speaker 2: from the power of his testimony, because if he's sort

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Speaker 2: of choosing his words and being you know, not fully

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Speaker 2: forthcoming in that regard, then of course it naturally raises

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Speaker 2: questions for people. Okay, well, if you're not being totally

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Speaker 2: upfront about the guy who actually got us into this war,

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Speaker 2: then how can we trust that you're being truly upfront

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Speaker 2: about these other extraordinary claims that you're making in this interview.

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Speaker 2: So that just would be that would be my view

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Speaker 2: is you know, I understand you're trying to preserve Trump's

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Speaker 2: ego so that maybe he'll hear this message. I understand,

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Speaker 2: you know, potentially you want to run for or you

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Speaker 2: want to you know, maintain support in credibility with the

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Speaker 2: Trump base, and Trump is like a god, their cold

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Speaker 2: leader or whatever. So that's tricky to walk walk that

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Speaker 2: line as well. But I think the most powerful thing

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Speaker 2: you can do right now is just be fully, fully truthful.

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Speaker 2: And yes, the Israelis have wanted this war. They have

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Speaker 2: wanted this war for a long time. They've tried to

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Speaker 2: manipulate a lot of presidents into this war. But this

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Speaker 2: president is the one who said yes. And this president

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Speaker 2: is the one who shut you out after the Twelve

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Speaker 2: Day War and did not want to hear the other

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Speaker 2: side anymore. This president is the one who took one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars from Miriam Mandelson. This president

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Speaker 2: is the one who created a culture of sycophancy around

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Speaker 2: him so that you know, reportedly, even you know General Kine,

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Speaker 2: who he handpicked, et cetera, didn't feel comfortable enough really

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Speaker 2: telling him and sort of use these proxies or hinted

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Speaker 2: at what trouble could come with the Iran war. Trump

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Speaker 2: is responsible here. He is not some victim of happenstance.

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Speaker 2: He is not some poor baby lamb who had no

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Speaker 2: idea and just got walked into this thing and there

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Speaker 2: was nothing he could do. He is the most powerful

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Speaker 2: man on the planet. He is the president of a

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Speaker 2: nuclear armed superpower. And ultimately, yes, the Israelis were doing

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Speaker 2: what the Israelis have.

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Speaker 4: Long been doing.

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Speaker 2: The responsibility lies with him, and I think that until

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Speaker 2: there's full candor on that point, it will somewhat diminish

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Speaker 2: the power of the rest of the testimony here, which

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Speaker 2: is so vitally important as we face down what exactly

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Speaker 2: this war.

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Speaker 4: Is going on.

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Speaker 3: That's fair, We'll see. I'll definitely ask him about some

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Speaker 3: of this, as I said. Currently scheduled to interview him

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Speaker 3: tomorrow and premium subscribers you can submit some questions and

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Speaker 3: we'll maybe pick a few of them to ask Joe Kent. Again,

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Speaker 3: it's tentative. Who knows he literally could be indicted by

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration hit with a gag order. But for

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Speaker 3: now that's your current plan. Okay, we've got Robert Pape

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Speaker 3: standing by Professor Pape.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to it.

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Speaker 2: So for more on the escalation trap that Trump has

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Speaker 2: gotten caught in in the Iran war, we are fortunate

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Speaker 2: to be joined again by Professor Robert Pape, Professor political

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Speaker 2: Science at University of Chicago.

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Speaker 4: Great to see against ourct user.

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Speaker 8: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 2: So before we jump in, I understand you're having a

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Speaker 2: briefing on this phase of the escalation trap.

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Speaker 4: Just give people the details so that they can learn

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Speaker 4: as much as possible about your framework.

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Speaker 8: Yes, my substack is called the Escalation Trap. I started

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Speaker 8: it a week before the war to lay out all

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Speaker 8: the stages of what was coming, and I'm sorry to

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Speaker 8: say we are right on track. We're moving from stage one,

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Speaker 8: we're now deep into stage two, and we'll be moving

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Speaker 8: likely to stage three on Sunday. You can join my

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Speaker 8: live briefing on substack. It will be it will start

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Speaker 8: at four pm Central time five pm Eastern. This will

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Speaker 8: be an hour. You'll be able to put questions in

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Speaker 8: the chat. I will be able to respond, and then

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Speaker 8: I will send answers to selective questions the next day

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Speaker 8: to everybody who joined. So this is a very good

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Speaker 8: way to stay ahead. This isn't just reacting.

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Speaker 2: We're explaining what to expect, right, and we will make

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Speaker 2: sure to put the link in our description here as

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Speaker 2: well so people can easily locate that. So we've been

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Speaker 2: talking in the show about you know, extraordinary level of

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Speaker 2: escalation here with the Israeli seemingly with the US's ascent

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Speaker 2: striking the South pars oil field in Iran, Iran predictably

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Speaker 2: in response struck significant blows to oil infrastructure throughout the region.

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Speaker 2: How do these actions fit into your Frameworkser?

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Speaker 8: Well, they fit actually quite tightly. And our community, the

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Speaker 8: listeners we had before I understand a million views, have

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Speaker 8: been be able to follow things even before they happen.

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Speaker 8: So the escalation trap starts with stage one, the smart

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Speaker 8: bombs that hit targets, destroy targets, kill leaders, but don't

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Speaker 8: achieve the strategic objectives. Number one, they did not weaken

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Speaker 8: the regime topple the regime. They didn't even move the

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Speaker 8: regime to aduvish position. The regime is more hawkish, more

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Speaker 8: dangerous now than ever because the new leaders are just

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Speaker 8: desperate to attack more. And also the power of Iran

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Speaker 8: has grown. So Iran in the last nineteen days has

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Speaker 8: grown from controlling four percent of the world's oil to

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Speaker 8: now twenty percent of the world's oil. In fact, in

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Speaker 8: the last nineteen days, Iran has been shipping its oil out.

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Speaker 8: It's made somewhere around a billion and a half dollars.

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Speaker 8: So think about that, all that money to rebuild everything,

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Speaker 8: and it's in Chinese banks, so we can't get it out.

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Speaker 8: And now we also have the physicle material, that nuclear material.

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Speaker 8: Now we're in stage two, though they've lashed back. I

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Speaker 8: call that horizontal escalation. And this is what's been going

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Speaker 8: on now for weeks, and it's not spasmodic. They're not

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Speaker 8: running out of AMMO. You see big block blasts yesterday

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Speaker 8: by Iran, and now the price of oil here is soaring,

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Speaker 8: So we're in stage two. Very deeply. I've been explaining

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Speaker 8: all this ahead of the time all the way through,

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Speaker 8: and we're in Iran that corizono escalation. It's economic warfare.

658
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Speaker 8: It's going after the economic pillars of the Gulf States

659
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Speaker 8: and the world, especially America of course, and also the

660
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Speaker 8: political pillars. And this is a long war strategy and

661
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Speaker 8: asymmetric strategy. They are not going toe to toe with

662
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Speaker 8: us in conventional battles. That's why you can take the

663
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Speaker 8: Iranian Navy off the table and it just doesn't matter. Okay,

664
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Speaker 8: what's going on is they are not losing. They are

665
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Speaker 8: gaining power in stage two, and that is sucking us

666
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Speaker 8: toward stage three. We're not there yet. That's the ground

667
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Speaker 8: forest options that the Marines are about seven ten days away,

668
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Speaker 8: But middle of next week there's a good chance we'll

669
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Speaker 8: be on the cusp of major decisions here to cross

670
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Speaker 8: that rubicon of stage three. That's what I'm going to

671
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 8: talk about layout in detail on Sunday. This has really

672
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Speaker 8: become an escalation trap that's become a strategic disaster for

673
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Speaker 8: the United States, for the administration for sure, but also

674
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Speaker 8: now for the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, professor, let's go ahead, and guys, let's put F

676
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: five up there on the screen, just again, fitting into

677
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: your framework. They say Trump has not made up his

678
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Speaker 3: mind on sending Americans into Iran to seize nuclear material.

679
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Speaker 3: This also apparently applies to any sort of operation to

680
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Speaker 3: control the Straits of Hormuz. Again, as I understand that

681
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Speaker 3: that is stage three in your framework, you seem to

682
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Speaker 3: think it's inevitable that some sort of ground force operation happens.

683
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Speaker 1: Give us your reasoning as to watch.

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Speaker 8: Yeah me. Let me also be precise about estimates. So

685
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 8: I don't have a crystal ball. I do risk assessment.

686
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Speaker 8: I would say that when used, I would use the

687
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Speaker 8: term inevitable. But what I mean is seventy five percent likely.

688
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 8: So I don't think it's quite one hundred percent. Because

689
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 8: we live in the real world. Something could change. But

690
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 8: we are heading in this direction, and every step of

691
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 8: the escalation trap has been seventy five percent likely, and

692
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 8: it has come to be. So this is now these

693
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Speaker 8: options here for President Trump. He needs time. The reason

694
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 8: that he's talking well, I'm not quite sure here or

695
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 8: not quite sure there, is because he needs time to

696
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 8: get those marines there. He's basically killing time while he's

697
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Speaker 8: waiting for the actual physical options to be available to him.

698
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Speaker 8: There's probably also preparations happening, not just with the twenty

699
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Speaker 8: five hundred marines that are moving from Japan. That takes

700
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Speaker 8: about eighteen days three or so. That's why the timeframe

701
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Speaker 8: we can be fairly precise. But also the eighty second

702
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Speaker 8: Airborne is likely preparing as well, because they canceled some

703
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 8: of their training about ten days ago, and that is

704
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Speaker 8: likely because that's also an option. And what I'm going

705
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 8: to be explaining with maps and all this and so

706
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 8: forth on Sunday is what we're talking about, and I

707
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 8: would describe this as limited territorial control options also to

708
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Speaker 8: be precise. They're not probably going to be going to Tehran.

709
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 8: That's probably not what we're talking about. And I've been

710
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 8: saying even before the war started that Stage three would

711
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 8: be limited territorial control cars, coastal areas, essefon. Well, we're

712
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 8: going to go into all of that because we're now

713
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Speaker 8: on the cusp of that, and by early next week

714
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 8: this is going to be front and center in front

715
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Speaker 8: of President Trump. And I've advised every White House from

716
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Speaker 8: two thousand and one to twenty twenty four, I realize

717
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 8: everybody is trying to read President Trump's mind. This is

718
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 8: it's just simply a mistake, and I realized Trump is mercurial.

719
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Speaker 8: But it's not just that presidents don't decide until they decide.

720
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 8: They really need to understand this that we're in the

721
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Speaker 8: middle of a real war here. This is not some

722
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 8: technical military operation that they've pre planned and he's got

723
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 8: pre set dates for go codes. These are really he's

724
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 8: on the horns of some very very major dilemmas here.

725
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Speaker 8: And if he crosses this rubicon, my goodness, we could

726
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 8: be seeing when that this is where the Vietnam analogy

727
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 8: will kick in big time. So so far it's been

728
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 8: kas of a you hear my analogies, Well, they're going

729
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 8: to start to change if we cross this rubicon, because

730
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Speaker 8: we're going to be in a new set of escalation dynamics.

731
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Speaker 8: And I'm also sorry to say, so far I've only

732
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 8: told the world about stage one, two, and three. There

733
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Speaker 8: is four and five if this keeps going, you see,

734
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Speaker 8: so we're not just because we're at stage three, does

735
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Speaker 8: that mean we've topped out of the risk.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk a little bit more specifically about the

737
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Speaker 2: straight of horn moves, which of course has become a

738
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Speaker 2: central question and aim, frankly, of this war.

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Speaker 4: We can put F one up on the screen.

740
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Speaker 2: So reportedly the US use some of its new five

741
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Speaker 2: thousand pounds bunker buster bombs to hit Iranian anti ship

742
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Speaker 2: missile sites right along the coast there, so that was significant.

743
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Speaker 2: I also just wanted to put F three if we

744
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: can't up on the screen, here, guys, pictures of what

745
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: this area looks like. I'm told that in the military

746
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: the geography matters here a lot. So you can see

747
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Speaker 2: these sort of sheer cliffs along the side of the

748
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: Strait of horror moves, and so I was wondering if

749
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Speaker 2: you could break down for us, you know, why is

750
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Speaker 2: this such a difficult problem for the US to solve,

751
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: and why is it that all of our allies effectively

752
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: at this point said listen, you got yourself into this mess.

753
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: Good luck getting out of it. You know, we wish

754
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: you well, but we're not going to send our military

755
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: assets into the region's directlessest.

756
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that was fantastic those pictures. My goodness, I'm so

757
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 8: glad to be on with you. A very few other

758
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 8: people are are really taking this so seriously to explain

759
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 8: to the world what's going on, and also just so

760
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 8: people know, just a few days ago. On my sub stack,

761
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 8: I put out the economic battlefield, and point one here

762
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 8: is the straight of horn Moves is becoming the center

763
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Speaker 8: of gravity. In stage two, it is now the center

764
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 8: of gravity because of all the leverage that Iran is

765
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 8: gaining from controlling the strait of horn Moves. And I've

766
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 8: already explained that in detail. But the geography here, in

767
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 8: order to take territory with ground forces, the offense has

768
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 8: to reveal itself. The defense can stay behind cliffs and

769
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 8: in nooks and crannies, but if the ground forces are

770
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 8: going to take territory, they always have to reveal themselves

771
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 8: and be exposed to enemy fire. And the more exposure,

772
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 8: the more death essentially, And what you are seeing with

773
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 8: those pictures here is tremendous exposure. Now, I am sure

774
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 8: I have taught for the US Air Force here for years.

775
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 8: Just talked to the US Army War College before the

776
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 8: war kicked off a few days before. We have the

777
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 8: best professionals in the world. They will do their best

778
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 8: to find the best avenues of approach to minimize exposure.

779
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 8: That's the issue here, exposure, and to rapidly try to

780
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 8: get through the most exposed times. The bottom line though,

781
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 8: is you just showed those images. My goodness, gracious, here,

782
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 8: this is going to be a challenge, and this is

783
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 8: like saving private Ryan territory, so they will try to

784
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 8: minimize it. But the fact that the matter is the

785
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 8: bad guys are gonna know what the best approaches are too.

786
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 8: Remember this is their home turf, so this isn't just

787
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 8: they have the home field advantage for three points in

788
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 8: an NFL football game. They really know the best approaches,

789
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 8: and they've known that for decades. So the odds are there,

790
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 8: gonna be booby traps, Are there, gonna be land mines?

791
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 8: Are there, gonna be X's and y's here, are there

792
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 8: gonna be surprised? Now, we may have some surprises of

793
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 8: our own. I'm not saying we don't have things in

794
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 8: our toolkit. I'm just pointing out that once we cross

795
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 8: into phase three, this is now at the tactical level.

796
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 8: So we've had the tactical advance. I'll be explaining this,

797
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 8: we've had the tactical advantage on our side. Once we

798
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 8: go to stage three, the tactical advantage is likely to

799
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 8: start shifting to the bag to Iran as well. And

800
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 8: that is what we're talking about. With the exposure. And

801
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 8: it's not because we're dumkoffs. That's not the issue. We've

802
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 8: got the best in the rightist here, and nonetheless that's

803
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 8: saving Private Ryan is a good movie to watch this weekend,

804
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 8: just the opening ten.

805
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: Minutes or Gallipoli right, or really.

806
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 8: Exactly I was trying to save that. You guys are

807
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 8: telling you, this is really unbelievable how well you have

808
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 8: done this because you're getting to the depth. A lot

809
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 8: of others want to just touch the concepts and others

810
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 8: are using and the concepts are spreading like wildfire, by

811
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 8: the way, but you're going and allowing the to understand.

812
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 8: And I'm just so appreciative of this. This is what

813
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 8: I started the substack to do. It's not just to

814
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 8: have a word or viewers. It's to actually be able

815
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 8: to educate because we're so hungry for understanding and we

816
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 8: can actually do it well.

817
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: It's because of people like you.

818
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: We also wanted to put F one please up there

819
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 3: on the screen, especially giving your air power expertise, so

820
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: curious for your reaction here, the United States used it's

821
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: new five thousand pound bunker buster bombs to hit these

822
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: Iranian anti ship missile sites. This seems very consistent ser

823
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 3: with your framework about the smart bomb trap and the

824
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 3: I believe you know, the intelligence around this would be well,

825
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: if we remove this, then we might have some sort

826
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 3: of successful invasion, some sort of successful you know, ability

827
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: to move ships through the straits of horn moves. But

828
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: we've learned because of your work and your studying, that

829
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: it's almost impossible to destroy all enemy capability.

830
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Speaker 1: That's right.

831
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 8: So what this tells me is several things. So number one,

832
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 8: that five thousand pound is a bunker buster bomb. It's

833
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 8: called it is designed to blow up underground bunkers that

834
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 8: are about twenty thirty feet underground with concrete, and it

835
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 8: very likely did that in this case. Number Two, though

836
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 8: they're going after anti ship missiles now so far Iran

837
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 8: is not fired as far as I know, a single

838
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 8: anti ship missile here, and they have many hundreds of these.

839
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 8: And these are our ships. When they come forward on

840
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 8: open water, are essentially giant metal that absorb attack. Because

841
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 8: they're out in the water, there's not much collater, there's

842
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 8: not much to confuse the targeting mechanisms and so forth.

843
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 8: So what this tells me is we are getting ready

844
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 8: to move ships here and our amphibious ships through the

845
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 8: straits of horror Mooves. Number three, however, is the Iranians

846
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 8: likely have known that any fixed bunker is something that

847
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 8: we can find and kill. So the question here is

848
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 8: do we have any intel at all that there was

849
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 8: any anti ship? The bunker was clearly there, but what

850
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 8: about the actual anti ship missiles? This is And then

851
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 8: the fourth thing is the mountains. So one of the

852
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 8: things that you could show on the straight of hor

853
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 8: Moos on the other side of Iran, on Iran side

854
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 8: from Dubai is the large mountain range that's right across

855
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 8: from Uae and Dubai that goes on for many many

856
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 8: miles on the coast here, and what you will see

857
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 8: is perfect terrain for crevices and so forth. So even

858
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 8: if we know exactly where pinpointing it is, oh my goodness,

859
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 8: knocking all of that out and they only need to

860
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 8: score one hit on one of our ships. So just

861
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 8: think about it for a moment. We're gonna have hundreds

862
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 8: of folks, men and women on these ships, sitting ducks,

863
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 8: and they're going through the gauntlet, and we may knock

864
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 8: out ninety eight percent of what's coming at them. But

865
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 8: they only need to have one, maybe two hits, and

866
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 8: right away you've got dozens, if not hundreds dead, and

867
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 8: they're dead in the water. You see what I mean.

868
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 8: There could be more coming at them there, and then

869
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 8: how do you rescue them? So this really is we

870
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 8: may not have the tactical disaster. I can't predict that exactly,

871
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Speaker 8: of course, but you're just up against the situation here

872
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 8: where the other side only needs a handful of things

873
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 8: to go right for them, they can have ninety five

874
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Speaker 8: percent of everything go wrong. And this looks like you're

875
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 8: talking right. This looks like this World War One disaster

876
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 8: called Gallipoli, which just persuaded the world that there was anyway.

877
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Speaker 8: So this that was excellent though, you really set it

878
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Speaker 8: up well.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much, sir, We really appreciate you.

880
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Speaker 2: Anything else first, well, I was just going to ask

881
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Speaker 2: for a little bit of a preview you mentioned, you know,

882
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: you go on to stage four and stage five, if

883
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: you want to give us just a little bit of

884
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Speaker 2: a glimpse.

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Speaker 8: Of we're gonna wait on that. I'm sorry to say,

886
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Speaker 8: I think I'm scared forgiven. I'm only doing it because

887
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 8: I'm not doing it to just say, the sky is falling.

888
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 8: I'm doing this in advance of time when the horizon

889
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 8: is really there, so I really would would I there

890
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 8: is more to say, but we will unfold it in

891
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 8: advance a few weeks in advance. Here, we're going to

892
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 8: keep up that that idea, but we're not going to

893
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 8: keep them running it so that we have all these

894
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 8: nightmare scenarios and so forth and so on, because again,

895
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 8: I want to do it as risk assessment as we

896
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Speaker 8: go forward. And I think that's really what I'm seeing

897
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 8: the uh, the audience is really valuing. That's what I'm

898
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 8: I'm getting in the feedback.

899
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Speaker 2: And so yeah, well we hope that if unfortunately we

900
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Speaker 2: end up in those phases, that you will rejoin and I'll.

901
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Speaker 8: Oh, my goodness, gracious, I would be you invite me.

902
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 8: We should do this once a week. I mean, my goodness,

903
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 8: this is just absolutely Thursday this time. You got me.

904
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Speaker 8: Just keep that in the invites.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, professor pay I so desperately wish I

906
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Speaker 3: had a professor like you in college.

907
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Speaker 8: Well that's really quite you haven't been graded by me.

908
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 8: Wait till you get to the grading part of the

909
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 8: not so easy to get the a's.

910
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Speaker 1: Necessarily it would have been worth Thank you very much, sir.

911
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Speaker 1: We appreciate Okay, bye bye, Thank you guys so much

912
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Speaker 1: for watching. We appreciate you. As I said, we're gonna have.

913
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Speaker 3: This one of those questions you guys can submit if

914
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: you want, for the Joe Ken interview, which should be

915
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Speaker 3: happening tomorrow. We'll see you all later, and there will

916
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: still be a Friday show. Yeah, don't worry. Lots of

917
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Speaker 3: content for everyone tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you later.