WEBVTT - Bonus Scheme Preview with Chris B. Brown 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:06.000 Welcome to the Solid Verbal. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:08.200 Coll that for me, I'm a man, I'm forty. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:10.119 I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:12.760 be happy. You want to be happy for day Edith 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:19.120 State is that woo woom? And Dan and Tye. 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:24.000 Welcome back to a bonus National Championship Solid Verbal. My 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:27.200 name is ty Hildenbrandt. Joining me as always is Dan Rubinstein. 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:30.800 Hopefully you had a chance to listen to our longer 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:37.639 drawing out, dripping moist Belove You College Football National Championship 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.120 Game previous show that we also published in tandem with 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:42.479 this one. 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:44.400 Twenty eighteen Tie Working Blue. 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:45.000 I love it. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.000 But one of the things that you know we did 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:49.680 last year and had a lot of fun with, is 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:53.760 we brought in some friends, some much much smarter friends, 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.680 if I don't say so myself, to analyze all the 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.880 different aspects of the football game. We don't know everything 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.440 is to know about schemes, your defense of personnel, or 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:04.960 any of that jazz really, so we brought in some 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.240 friends to do it. Well, I am going to go 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.280 on record right now and I'm gonna say I Well, 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.840 I'm not going to be too controversial, I promise you, Okay, 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:17.120 One of, if not the most requested guests that we 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.520 get asked about here on the program is our good 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.559 friend Chris B. Brown sometimes we call it Chrispy Brown 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.039 from smartfootball dot Com. Chris is a bit of a 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:31.959 savant when it comes to all things schemes and philosophy. Philosophy. 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.280 Sure, so I sat down with Chris in the Espimination 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.520 or I guess Box Media Studios and talked about I 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:42.000 know I'm shattering the illusion, but the fact that ties 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:45.160 not in the interview because he could barely speak. It's 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.440 probably for the best, no, philosophically, because you know, there's 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.080 a lot of overlap between Nick Saban and Kirby Smart 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.040 and melt Tucker obviously, and you know, Jeremy Pruitt was 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:57.480 at Georgia, so he is familiar with Georgia personnel and 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.880 just what they're trying to do defensively, how they prepare 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:02.800 for different offenses, and you know, how do you have 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.840 time for wrinkles and what is it that you know, 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.360 offenses try to do and succeed in doing against these defenses, 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.960 And just generally speaking, you know, how quarterbacks operate with 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:16.440 different levels of experience and what like levels of the 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.840 playbook are available to them what they are or are 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.640 not asked to do, so it's a it's a cool 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.760 look if you really want to nerd out, which we 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:28.000 are always willing to do, especially with teams as good 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.000 as Georgia and Alabama. So basically sat down with Chris 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.600 for a while to get his thoughts on sort of 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.240 the push and pull of this matchup. 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.960 Don't forget if you haven't listened to our longer preview show, 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.080 you can do so right now. Just check your podcast 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.799 feed or going out to Solidverble dot com or our 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.880 Facebook or Twitter pages where you can find all of 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.000 our other stuff as well. If you are going to 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:53.200 be in Atlanta one more time, look us up on 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.919 all of our social media channels. We've not only got 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.520 a big live show going down in the heart of 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:02.760 downtown Atlanta on Saturday evening, but we've also got a 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.799 whole lot of fun stuff coming up on Saturday morning 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:08.560 throughout College Football Media Day as we talk to players 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:12.239 and coaches, medium members, all sorts of folks who might 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.320 have a better idea than us about what's going to 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:17.280 happen in this game on Monday. In the meantime, though, 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.440 Dan did a great job with our friend Chris from 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.480 smart Football. Let's have a listen, all right. 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:26.320 We are now joined by Chris B. Brown Smart Football Zone. 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.600 You've seen them, grant Land, you've seen them, Espianation. You 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.680 should buy his books. What are the name of your books? 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.200 It's the Art of Smart Football. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.600 Yeah, very creative titles, The Art of Smart Football and 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:36.720 the Essential Smart Football. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.280 Will there be a new book eventually once. 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.360 And there will eventually be more writing, but no guarantees 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:43.400 on timetables for any of it. 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.720 You should go to smart football, and he goes to smartpe. Well, 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.120 if you're listening to this, you should go to smart 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.560 football and read all sorts of things about scheme and 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.520 coaching philosophies and what players do well. And if you're 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.520 college football or even an NFL nerd, you should go 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:57.640 to smart football dot com. 0:03:57.720 --> 0:03:58.920 Yes, sounds good to me. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:00.000 Oh man, what a commercial. 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:00.560 Okay. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.440 So we have Alabama Georgia in the National Championship Game, 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.480 two teams that are I think pretty familiar with each 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:11.840 other because of the head coaching styles and the assistant 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.880 coaches involved in the game, and the sort of scheme styles, 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:16.839 especially on defense. And I think that's where we'll focus 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:21.359 but not exclusively lay. How would you describe I guess, 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:26.960 big picture, the defense that Alabama runs, especially since and 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.080 I imagine they're not identical to Georgia's defense, even with 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.080 mel Tucker the former secondary coach Alabama and Kirby Smart 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:36.040 the former coordinator. But big picture, what do these defenses, 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.320 or specifically Alabama's defense try to do each week? 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.760 Well, they try to do in terms of each season 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:47.599 every defense ever known to man. I mean, someone pointed 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:51.920 out if you look at Nick Sabans Miami Dolphins defensive playbook, 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.640 which I think Kirby spent some time with the Dolphins 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:58.000 as well, it's something like fourteen hundred. 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.720 Pages of defense. 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:04.480 And and that was before Sabin and Kirby started evolving 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.679 what they were doing in response to the spread offense 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.080 and read options and run pass options and all this 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.280 stuff they've added in the last few years as the 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:15.680 SEC in particulars move. So Saban wants to go in 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.719 there and have the ability to do anything on any 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.680 week and tailor it to an opponent. It's very comes 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.040 from his Bill Belichick point of view, which is we're 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:24.560 going to carry a lot of defense. We're going to 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.919 carry a lot of scheme because every opponent's different and 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.800 we want the answers, and you know, Saban loves to 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.880 have time and really think about it and figure it out. 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.360 And you saw that. I think against Clemson they had 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:36.479 a month put. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.719 Together a very very detailed report and figured out everything 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.359 they that had heard him in previous years, and with 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:46.119 particular focus on the quarterback run game, and they shut 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.919 it down and he was able to take pieces of 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:50.760 the scheme that they've been working on all year and 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:55.000 then apply it in a very specific way to whatever 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.560 the offense is doing. And I think that's really the 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:02.119 philosophy that Saban brings, which Kirby and Meltucker and others 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.680 are now doing at Georgia, which is, we have a 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.960 lot and then we'll look at specially what your tendencies are, 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.000 what you like to do, what your personnelity is, and 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.320 then we've got we may have a coverage. Like the 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.840 coverage that Saban likes is that everybody runs a version 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:18.160 of quarters, which is a you can do it. It can 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:19.800 make more of a zone, more of a Manda Man. 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.400 Why Saban runs it's really a Manda Man scheme. A 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:23.680 lot of rules about where people go. 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:27.039 And Carter's broadly speaking is the field is divided into 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:28.120 four pieces. 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:28.440 Yes, sort of. 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.680 So basically you've got corner, your cornerbacks, and your safeties 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:35.320 aligned across the field, and they're actually reading the offensive 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.080 receivers and eligible receivers. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.160 To figure out whether who locks onto who man demand. 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:44.000 Basically, it's not a true what Saban calls country zone 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:45.600 where you just drop to a spot and try to 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:50.240 watch the quarterback size. But within that they've got fifty 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:54.680 calls and when they see an opponent and they know 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.240 that when they're in this formation, we make this call, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.040 and then they shift or if they're in a information 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.120 or they are a running lined up in a different place, 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.440 they'll call a different call within that same cover. So 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.520 the point of it is is that it is extremely 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.840 adaptable to whatever the offense does. He wants to figure 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:13.160 out what you do well and take it away, and 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.960 everybody says they're going to do that, but Saban really 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.760 has ability to do it and within that scheme because 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:19.160 he's got. 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:19.960 Answers for everything. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.440 And and and I think the other credit to Saban 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.200 over the years is he's very pragmatic. 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.800 And you've seen that on offense, and I think. 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:30.760 That the corollary applies on defense, where teams are hurting 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.360 him with raid option stuff or mobile quarterbacks, Well he's 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.320 got he's going to focus on that and try to 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:40.680 take it away. So that's what's and then you then 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:45.840 you layer on amazing technique plus amazing talent. Uh and 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.400 and you know, you watch the defensive line and they're 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:52.160 in their rush lanes or tackle like pulls and blocks 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.560 down and that defensive end is filling and it's it's 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.960 just textbook stuff and it's just it's really fun to 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:58.800 watch when you really really get down to it, because 0:07:58.800 --> 0:07:59.440 they're just so good. 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:00.920 So that's why they're so good. 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.960 As you got top talent, they have a schematic answer 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.320 forever what you want to do. They've scouted the hell 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.040 out of you with their thousand analysts or whoever. Then 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.320 and then you're not gonna get them out of position. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.320 And that's a recipe for being really, really good. And 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.680 whether that's really good at Alabama, really good at Georgia, 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.600 and that's why they're able to you know, there's talk 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:21.800 about you know, Saban struggled with mobile quarterbacks, and some 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.680 true to that just because of the numbers disadvantage, but 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.000 they basically good go on defense against everybody, right. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.160 And the teams that they have struggled against tend to 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.800 take chances and throw the ball downfield, you know, horizontally. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.640 It's very difficult to beat this type of defense, the 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.240 style of defense, especially when the talent can tackle in 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:42.239 the open field. Is there something about that specific tendency 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.640 that it's guys like you know, Chad Kelly and Deshaun 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:48.360 Watson and Johnny Manziel who are succeeding going downfield with 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.720 this defense, or is it a matter of when you 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:54.079 have an excellent quarterback, you can just beat just about everybody. 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:55.280 A little bit of both. 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:59.640 So I think in order to beat a Nick Saban defense, 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:00.960 and I think, frankly or. 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.000 Any defense if you have an excellent right, but. 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.840 In particularly these defenses. But you know, say Georgia had 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:07.839 a great defens this year. I think Baker Mayfield was 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:09.720 able to do a lot of things. I think maybe 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.520 people already give them enough credit for you know, having 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.720 you know, points three and a half times George's average 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.240 and more than doubling the yardage average against George's defense. 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:22.200 But that helps because you have great players make great plays. 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.480 They're gonna they're gonna challenge everything. Big part of the 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.320 Velosi is that you know they're not going to give up. 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.679 You know, ten hitch routes just give you free access. 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.240 You know Saban always you know, he coaches the secondary. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.280 It talks about you to play in practice, you do 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.360 these like one on one receiver drills. He's like I said, 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.840 there and watch him in the quarterback plays off and 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.760 they complete eighty ninety percent of the passes and put 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:45.520 them up in press and it's like that percentage goes 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.760 down to twenty percent. Now, the things you give up 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:51.199 is potentially you invite them to take those shots downfield right, 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.320 you know, and maybe you get a matchup and all that. 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.280 You don't have a bunch of secondary players playing really deep. 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.560 You know, he figures one he's gonna put a lot 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.560 of pressure on you. You're not gonna have to do that. 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.559 You're not going to do that consistently enough gets you 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:04.040 three and outs and then wear you down. 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:05.559 On the other side. 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.760 The other thing is they try to take away the 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:09.840 short stuff, not just by pressing you, but they're so 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.040 good at matching your route. So what's the most popular 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.440 route in college football, the shallow cross. 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.680 Yes, a lot of teams. 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:19.000 You watch them run the shallow cross, and all of 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.319 a sudden, the guy pops out on the other side 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.000 and he's wide open. Watch I mean, and you can 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:26.000 look at their playbooks. It's very well designed and it's 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:30.080 playing in there. You can't cover a shallow cross all 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:31.960 game by having the guy lined up over the receiver, 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.520 just chase him across the field, even in a man 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.959 to man coverage. So what they call cut the crosser, 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.200 so they you'll see the safety on the other side, 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:40.440 if he sees a cross will come in. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.440 He'll come down and cut that guy. So then that guy. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.600 That's where you see those guys catch the ball and 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:46.959 then all of a sudden they turn and then they 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.000 just get upended by some safety and then this show 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.520 cross doesn't happen as much. So they're just very good 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.920 at matching all the things offenses want to do to 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:59.000 get those horizontal short throws, which, particularly in college, I mean, 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.400 how many quarterbacks when you don't have the great ones, 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.840 you make a living on short throws, screens, bubbles, screens, 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:09.000 and shallow crosses to get your quarterback the ball so 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:10.760 he can put the ball in space, put the ball 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.080 in play. If you have an NFL guy or a 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.960 guy with NFL tools, whether or not he's a true 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.520 NFL talent, then you have to throw the ball in 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:19.240 some different places. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:20.840 I'm glad you brought that up. So one of the 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:22.880 things that people love to talk about with Nick Saban 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:26.320 because he's had so much success in college recently, is 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.680 could he do it at Wyoming? Could he do it 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.560 at Cincinnati? Could he do it with lesser talent you know, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.120 you know cal or Minnesota or even like Texts A 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.240 and M, which has not had the success even in 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.240 the same division, even recruiting. Well, how much of what 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.160 he does is because he has the tools and let 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.520 me make clear players or not tools, but the talent 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.160 to say, oh, you can play three different positions on 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.000 the defensive line, Oh your corner is hurt. This safety 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.040 can come down and play corner. And so he has 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.400 the depth and he has rare versatility. Could it work 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.320 with you know, at Iowa something like that where you 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:02.320 don't have you know, stars everywhere, or Michigan State or 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.960 Michigan State, Yeah, which he didn't. He didn't go eleven 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:06.760 and one, twelve and oh every year at Michigan State. 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.680 No, no, so look, I mean you need good players, 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.000 and obviously a big part of their system is having 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.440 the depth, particularly on the defensive line, where you can 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.520 roll guys in and out. I think you've seen a 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.120 schematic shift from from from save in the last couple 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:24.319 of years as they stopped having those like first round cornerbacks. 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.200 They played a lot more sort of cover one pure 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.400 man de man. You know, they've moved to those cover 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.880 seven quarters concepts with a little more help and some 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:36.200 different concepts. So yeah, I mean, if you've got great players, 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.040 that makes a big difference. If you've got you know, 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.280 what was that play against Texas A and M last 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.520 year where it was his name like jumped over the 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.640 lineman and the running back and hit Trevor Knight in 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:45.200 the chest? 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.319 I mean that helps, yeah. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.760 So But but on the other hand, and Saban likes 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.120 to tell the story, it was one of his first 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.560 games in Michigan State. They played one of those Tom 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.840 Osborne Nebraska teams and they got beat and you just 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.720 come from the NFL Cleveland Brown's I guess like fifty 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:03.760 five to three or some you know, same thing, and 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.240 he and he said he was actually sitting there on 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:08.280 the fourth court was like this was a mistake, Like 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.120 coming back to college was a mistake. Yeah, and then 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.480 Tom Osborn kind of came across the building and I 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.440 don't have a quotas at you, but something lean across 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.319 is like not as bad as you think you are, 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:18.120 Meaning that Tom I was were knew we had a 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:21.360 prety darn good team that year, right, So on that 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.400 day Saban had a lot of great schemes. He'd worked 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.560 with Bill Belichick for years, his defensive coordinator, and but 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.080 Tom Osborn had some pretty good schemes too, and Nebraska 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.680 was was awesome. So yeah, talent wins the day. But 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.800 it's a it's a great scheme. It's ah. They teach 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:37.400 it really well. They have really good teachers. 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:37.880 You know what. 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:39.600 I think one thing you see with Nick Staban is 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.240 he coaches the coaches, right. I mean he drills them 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.000 even you know, whether it's Lane Kiff and talking about 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.960 all the mind numbing meetings about coin flips and procedures 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.240 and stuff. Because he's everything is down to a t. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.480 I think you'd have success every everywhere it was. It 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.360 also goes back to the point I made earlier about 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.320 the volume. I think when you've got the system they 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.600 have where they're guys coming in every year and there's 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.680 a ton of competition to just get on the field, 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.080 you know, he may not be able to get and 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:07.520 then maybe you've got to play the guy that you 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.920 can play who maybe is talented, but maybe not as 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.280 his acumen for football acumen isn't quit as high. Maybe 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.559 he wouldn't be able to carry all that defense, so we'd 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.559 have to simplify it and maybe do some different things. 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:18.559 You know. 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.400 I look at a guy like Gary Patterson, a TCU, 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.440 which certain elements of what he does are similar to 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.200 what parts of what Saban does, so particularly all that 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.160 you know against spread teams, Saban basically plays a four 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:34.120 two five, so it's similar, but it's the teaching is 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.000 much more simplified than all the various aggustments to Staveman has. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.240 So maybe he have to just that, But okay, I don't. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.040 I don't think he'd go to Wyoming and go too 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.480 and two and nine or anything like that. 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.240 Think you'd do Okay, Yes, I think that's the case 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.040 as well. Both of these defensive coordinators, these coaching staffs 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.480 have two very different offenses to prepare for. In that 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:56.120 Georgia had Oklahoma and Baker Mayfield and Lincoln Riley spreading 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.200 it out last week, and Alabama had Clemson Kelly Bryant, 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.680 and you know that that sort of more open spread. 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:03.760 Look that even if they're running power, you know, the 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.280 receivers are out wide, they're doing a lot of horizontal stuff. 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:10.560 And now they're preparing for still two different types of offenses. 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:12.960 Georgia is preparing for, I think, a little more open 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:14.880 up an offense with what Jalen Hurts can do with 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.280 the ball, and Alabama is preparing for and I don't 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:19.640 want to say pro style, I don't even want to 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.240 say more traditional, but Jake From's understander a little bit 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.360 more and he's not going to run for one hundred yards, 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.480 we don't think. So whose job do you envy less 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:29.520 in preparing for this week? 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:33.960 Defensively, Yeah, it's a hard question. I put it this way. 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.520 I think the offense is actually very very similar, with 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.840 the exception of the styles of quarterback or one hundred 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:44.000 percent different, right, And I think from there they're both 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:48.640 very multiformational. They both Alabama basically to stop using the 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.680 under center with Hurts, but they could do that, but 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.520 a lot of the stuff that Georgia doesn't understand. They'll 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.520 do it from spread, they'll do it from condensed. They 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.400 both use a lot of tight ends. They both have 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:01.840 unbelievable stables of running backs, unbelievable players there, and they 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.640 have skill on the outside. Alabama probably is a little 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:08.880 more though they throw it less, so that that is 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.120 the big difference. I do think it's you know, I don't. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:16.440 I don't know that either offensive coordinator totally scares. 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:16.720 You in this game. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.240 I think the Alabama offensive corner is a little more 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.720 of an unknown factor, you know, Dable being in the NFL, 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:24.440 and then I think he's brought in to do more 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.080 passing game stuff that you haven't really seen. 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.040 Maybe you see that when the other guy gets in 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:28.440 one day. 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:31.440 But with Hurts, I think it looks very similar to 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:32.960 what they've been doing the last couple of years, which 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:37.520 is basically trying to run a spread option system. They're 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:39.680 kind of going to play three carne monte with with 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:43.120 Hurts and those amazing running backs, which is a challenge. 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:48.000 But they're not particularly explosive in the passing game. They 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.120 take some shots, but they're not always efficient at converting them. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.440 And I think what you'll see from Alabama will look 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:54.840 a lot like what it did a gets Clemson, which 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.000 is just trying to grind it out. Maybe maybe some 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:58.840 of those running backs step out of a few tackles 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.240 and run a long way, but otherwise it's, you know, 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.480 they're going to try to wear you down. It's basically 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.680 a version of what they look like in the late 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:09.560 two thousands, from more pro style, where they're going to 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:10.800 grind it out, maybe take some shots. 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:12.080 They just do it from a different look. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.080 George is interesting, and I think Jim Cheney is probably 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:18.639 the most interesting man other than the players in the game, 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:24.359 you know, and he's bounced around a lot, you know, 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:28.120 interesting long career. Obviously, people talk about, you know, coach 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.200 Drew Brees. Back in the day, it was with Joe Tiller, 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:32.040 but then he went to the NFL with Scott Lenahan 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.840 and Greg Olsen who is with at Purdue, and then 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.800 he he ran Lane Kiffin's offense for a year at 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:40.760 Tennessee and then and then. 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.440 You know it with billiam. 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.639 Oyle and yah, yeah, and so which is interesting and 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.000 that that if you think about it, you know, no 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.439 one looks at Jim as, you know, some kind of 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.919 offensive guru in a sense, I think that's kind of 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:56.840 refreshing in the age where everybody's got to be an 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:57.679 offense in guru. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.840 And I've got my system. He's very amolleable. 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:02.440 He run Joe Taylor system, he ran Lane Kiffin's system, 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:07.520