1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Coll that for me, I'm a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: be happy. You want to be happy for day Edith 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: State is that woo woom? And Dan and Tye. 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: Welcome back to a bonus National Championship Solid Verbal. My 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: name is ty Hildenbrandt. Joining me as always is Dan Rubinstein. 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: Hopefully you had a chance to listen to our longer 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 3: drawing out, dripping moist Belove You College Football National Championship 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: Game previous show that we also published in tandem with 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: this one. 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen Tie Working Blue. 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: I love it. 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: But one of the things that you know we did 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: last year and had a lot of fun with, is 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: we brought in some friends, some much much smarter friends, 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: if I don't say so myself, to analyze all the 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: different aspects of the football game. We don't know everything 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: is to know about schemes, your defense of personnel, or 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 3: any of that jazz really, so we brought in some 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: friends to do it. Well, I am going to go 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: on record right now and I'm gonna say I Well, 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: I'm not going to be too controversial, I promise you, Okay, 24 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: One of, if not the most requested guests that we 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: get asked about here on the program is our good 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 3: friend Chris B. Brown sometimes we call it Chrispy Brown 27 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 3: from smartfootball dot Com. Chris is a bit of a 28 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: savant when it comes to all things schemes and philosophy. Philosophy. 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: Sure, so I sat down with Chris in the Espimination 30 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: or I guess Box Media Studios and talked about I 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: know I'm shattering the illusion, but the fact that ties 32 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: not in the interview because he could barely speak. It's 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: probably for the best, no, philosophically, because you know, there's 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: a lot of overlap between Nick Saban and Kirby Smart 35 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: and melt Tucker obviously, and you know, Jeremy Pruitt was 36 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: at Georgia, so he is familiar with Georgia personnel and 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: just what they're trying to do defensively, how they prepare 38 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: for different offenses, and you know, how do you have 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: time for wrinkles and what is it that you know, 40 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: offenses try to do and succeed in doing against these defenses, 41 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: And just generally speaking, you know, how quarterbacks operate with 42 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: different levels of experience and what like levels of the 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: playbook are available to them what they are or are 44 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: not asked to do, so it's a it's a cool 45 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: look if you really want to nerd out, which we 46 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: are always willing to do, especially with teams as good 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: as Georgia and Alabama. So basically sat down with Chris 48 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: for a while to get his thoughts on sort of 49 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: the push and pull of this matchup. 50 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: Don't forget if you haven't listened to our longer preview show, 51 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: you can do so right now. Just check your podcast 52 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 3: feed or going out to Solidverble dot com or our 53 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: Facebook or Twitter pages where you can find all of 54 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: our other stuff as well. If you are going to 55 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: be in Atlanta one more time, look us up on 56 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 3: all of our social media channels. We've not only got 57 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: a big live show going down in the heart of 58 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: downtown Atlanta on Saturday evening, but we've also got a 59 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: whole lot of fun stuff coming up on Saturday morning 60 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: throughout College Football Media Day as we talk to players 61 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 3: and coaches, medium members, all sorts of folks who might 62 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: have a better idea than us about what's going to 63 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: happen in this game on Monday. In the meantime, though, 64 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: Dan did a great job with our friend Chris from 65 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: smart Football. Let's have a listen, all right. 66 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: We are now joined by Chris B. Brown Smart Football Zone. 67 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: You've seen them, grant Land, you've seen them, Espianation. You 68 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: should buy his books. What are the name of your books? 69 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: It's the Art of Smart Football. 70 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, very creative titles, The Art of Smart Football and 71 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 4: the Essential Smart Football. 72 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: Will there be a new book eventually once. 73 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: And there will eventually be more writing, but no guarantees 74 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: on timetables for any of it. 75 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: You should go to smart football, and he goes to smartpe. Well, 76 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this, you should go to smart 77 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: football and read all sorts of things about scheme and 78 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: coaching philosophies and what players do well. And if you're 79 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: college football or even an NFL nerd, you should go 80 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: to smart football dot com. 81 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: Yes, sounds good to me. 82 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: Oh man, what a commercial. 83 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: Okay. 84 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: So we have Alabama Georgia in the National Championship Game, 85 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: two teams that are I think pretty familiar with each 86 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: other because of the head coaching styles and the assistant 87 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: coaches involved in the game, and the sort of scheme styles, 88 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: especially on defense. And I think that's where we'll focus 89 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: but not exclusively lay. How would you describe I guess, 90 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: big picture, the defense that Alabama runs, especially since and 91 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: I imagine they're not identical to Georgia's defense, even with 92 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: mel Tucker the former secondary coach Alabama and Kirby Smart 93 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: the former coordinator. But big picture, what do these defenses, 94 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: or specifically Alabama's defense try to do each week? 95 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 4: Well, they try to do in terms of each season 96 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 4: every defense ever known to man. I mean, someone pointed 97 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 4: out if you look at Nick Sabans Miami Dolphins defensive playbook, 98 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: which I think Kirby spent some time with the Dolphins 99 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: as well, it's something like fourteen hundred. 100 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: Pages of defense. 101 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: And and that was before Sabin and Kirby started evolving 102 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 4: what they were doing in response to the spread offense 103 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: and read options and run pass options and all this 104 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 4: stuff they've added in the last few years as the 105 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 4: SEC in particulars move. So Saban wants to go in 106 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 4: there and have the ability to do anything on any 107 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 4: week and tailor it to an opponent. It's very comes 108 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 4: from his Bill Belichick point of view, which is we're 109 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: going to carry a lot of defense. We're going to 110 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 4: carry a lot of scheme because every opponent's different and 111 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: we want the answers, and you know, Saban loves to 112 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: have time and really think about it and figure it out. 113 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: And you saw that. I think against Clemson they had 114 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: a month put. 115 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 4: Together a very very detailed report and figured out everything 116 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 4: they that had heard him in previous years, and with 117 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 4: particular focus on the quarterback run game, and they shut 118 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 4: it down and he was able to take pieces of 119 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: the scheme that they've been working on all year and 120 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 4: then apply it in a very specific way to whatever 121 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: the offense is doing. And I think that's really the 122 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,119 Speaker 4: philosophy that Saban brings, which Kirby and Meltucker and others 123 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: are now doing at Georgia, which is, we have a 124 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 4: lot and then we'll look at specially what your tendencies are, 125 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: what you like to do, what your personnelity is, and 126 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 4: then we've got we may have a coverage. Like the 127 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 4: coverage that Saban likes is that everybody runs a version 128 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 4: of quarters, which is a you can do it. It can 129 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 4: make more of a zone, more of a Manda Man. 130 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: Why Saban runs it's really a Manda Man scheme. A 131 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 4: lot of rules about where people go. 132 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: And Carter's broadly speaking is the field is divided into 133 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: four pieces. 134 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: Yes, sort of. 135 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 4: So basically you've got corner, your cornerbacks, and your safeties 136 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 4: aligned across the field, and they're actually reading the offensive 137 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 4: receivers and eligible receivers. 138 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: To figure out whether who locks onto who man demand. 139 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: Basically, it's not a true what Saban calls country zone 140 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 4: where you just drop to a spot and try to 141 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 4: watch the quarterback size. But within that they've got fifty 142 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: calls and when they see an opponent and they know 143 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 4: that when they're in this formation, we make this call, 144 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 4: and then they shift or if they're in a information 145 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: or they are a running lined up in a different place, 146 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: they'll call a different call within that same cover. So 147 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: the point of it is is that it is extremely 148 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 4: adaptable to whatever the offense does. He wants to figure 149 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: out what you do well and take it away, and 150 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: everybody says they're going to do that, but Saban really 151 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 4: has ability to do it and within that scheme because 152 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: he's got. 153 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: Answers for everything. 154 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 4: And and and I think the other credit to Saban 155 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: over the years is he's very pragmatic. 156 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: And you've seen that on offense, and I think. 157 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: That the corollary applies on defense, where teams are hurting 158 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: him with raid option stuff or mobile quarterbacks, Well he's 159 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: got he's going to focus on that and try to 160 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 4: take it away. So that's what's and then you then 161 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 4: you layer on amazing technique plus amazing talent. Uh and 162 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 4: and you know, you watch the defensive line and they're 163 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 4: in their rush lanes or tackle like pulls and blocks 164 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: down and that defensive end is filling and it's it's 165 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 4: just textbook stuff and it's just it's really fun to 166 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 4: watch when you really really get down to it, because 167 00:07:58,800 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: they're just so good. 168 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: So that's why they're so good. 169 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 4: As you got top talent, they have a schematic answer 170 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 4: forever what you want to do. They've scouted the hell 171 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 4: out of you with their thousand analysts or whoever. Then 172 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: and then you're not gonna get them out of position. 173 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 4: And that's a recipe for being really, really good. And 174 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 4: whether that's really good at Alabama, really good at Georgia, 175 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 4: and that's why they're able to you know, there's talk 176 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: about you know, Saban struggled with mobile quarterbacks, and some 177 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: true to that just because of the numbers disadvantage, but 178 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 4: they basically good go on defense against everybody, right. 179 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: And the teams that they have struggled against tend to 180 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: take chances and throw the ball downfield, you know, horizontally. 181 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: It's very difficult to beat this type of defense, the 182 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: style of defense, especially when the talent can tackle in 183 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:42,239 Speaker 1: the open field. Is there something about that specific tendency 184 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: that it's guys like you know, Chad Kelly and Deshaun 185 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Watson and Johnny Manziel who are succeeding going downfield with 186 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: this defense, or is it a matter of when you 187 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: have an excellent quarterback, you can just beat just about everybody. 188 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: A little bit of both. 189 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 4: So I think in order to beat a Nick Saban defense, 190 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 4: and I think, frankly or. 191 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: Any defense if you have an excellent right, but. 192 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 4: In particularly these defenses. But you know, say Georgia had 193 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 4: a great defens this year. I think Baker Mayfield was 194 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 4: able to do a lot of things. I think maybe 195 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 4: people already give them enough credit for you know, having 196 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 4: you know, points three and a half times George's average 197 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 4: and more than doubling the yardage average against George's defense. 198 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 4: But that helps because you have great players make great plays. 199 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: They're gonna they're gonna challenge everything. Big part of the 200 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 4: Velosi is that you know they're not going to give up. 201 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 4: You know, ten hitch routes just give you free access. 202 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: You know Saban always you know, he coaches the secondary. 203 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 4: It talks about you to play in practice, you do 204 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 4: these like one on one receiver drills. He's like I said, 205 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 4: there and watch him in the quarterback plays off and 206 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: they complete eighty ninety percent of the passes and put 207 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: them up in press and it's like that percentage goes 208 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: down to twenty percent. Now, the things you give up 209 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 4: is potentially you invite them to take those shots downfield right, 210 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 4: you know, and maybe you get a matchup and all that. 211 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 4: You don't have a bunch of secondary players playing really deep. 212 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 4: You know, he figures one he's gonna put a lot 213 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 4: of pressure on you. You're not gonna have to do that. 214 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 4: You're not going to do that consistently enough gets you 215 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 4: three and outs and then wear you down. 216 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 2: On the other side. 217 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 4: The other thing is they try to take away the 218 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 4: short stuff, not just by pressing you, but they're so 219 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 4: good at matching your route. So what's the most popular 220 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 4: route in college football, the shallow cross. 221 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: Yes, a lot of teams. 222 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 4: You watch them run the shallow cross, and all of 223 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 4: a sudden, the guy pops out on the other side 224 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 4: and he's wide open. Watch I mean, and you can 225 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: look at their playbooks. It's very well designed and it's 226 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 4: playing in there. You can't cover a shallow cross all 227 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 4: game by having the guy lined up over the receiver, 228 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 4: just chase him across the field, even in a man 229 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 4: to man coverage. So what they call cut the crosser, 230 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 4: so they you'll see the safety on the other side, 231 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 4: if he sees a cross will come in. 232 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: He'll come down and cut that guy. So then that guy. 233 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 4: That's where you see those guys catch the ball and 234 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 4: then all of a sudden they turn and then they 235 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: just get upended by some safety and then this show 236 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 4: cross doesn't happen as much. So they're just very good 237 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 4: at matching all the things offenses want to do to 238 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 4: get those horizontal short throws, which, particularly in college, I mean, 239 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 4: how many quarterbacks when you don't have the great ones, 240 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 4: you make a living on short throws, screens, bubbles, screens, 241 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 4: and shallow crosses to get your quarterback the ball so 242 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 4: he can put the ball in space, put the ball 243 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 4: in play. If you have an NFL guy or a 244 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 4: guy with NFL tools, whether or not he's a true 245 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 4: NFL talent, then you have to throw the ball in 246 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 4: some different places. 247 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. So one of the 248 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: things that people love to talk about with Nick Saban 249 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: because he's had so much success in college recently, is 250 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: could he do it at Wyoming? Could he do it 251 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: at Cincinnati? Could he do it with lesser talent you know, 252 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: you know cal or Minnesota or even like Texts A 253 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: and M, which has not had the success even in 254 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: the same division, even recruiting. Well, how much of what 255 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: he does is because he has the tools and let 256 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: me make clear players or not tools, but the talent 257 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: to say, oh, you can play three different positions on 258 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: the defensive line, Oh your corner is hurt. This safety 259 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: can come down and play corner. And so he has 260 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: the depth and he has rare versatility. Could it work 261 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: with you know, at Iowa something like that where you 262 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: don't have you know, stars everywhere, or Michigan State or 263 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: Michigan State, Yeah, which he didn't. He didn't go eleven 264 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: and one, twelve and oh every year at Michigan State. 265 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 4: No, no, so look, I mean you need good players, 266 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: and obviously a big part of their system is having 267 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 4: the depth, particularly on the defensive line, where you can 268 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 4: roll guys in and out. I think you've seen a 269 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 4: schematic shift from from from save in the last couple 270 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 4: of years as they stopped having those like first round cornerbacks. 271 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 4: They played a lot more sort of cover one pure 272 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 4: man de man. You know, they've moved to those cover 273 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 4: seven quarters concepts with a little more help and some 274 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 4: different concepts. So yeah, I mean, if you've got great players, 275 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: that makes a big difference. If you've got you know, 276 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: what was that play against Texas A and M last 277 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 4: year where it was his name like jumped over the 278 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 4: lineman and the running back and hit Trevor Knight in 279 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 4: the chest? 280 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 2: I mean that helps, yeah. 281 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 4: So But but on the other hand, and Saban likes 282 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 4: to tell the story, it was one of his first 283 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 4: games in Michigan State. They played one of those Tom 284 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 4: Osborne Nebraska teams and they got beat and you just 285 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 4: come from the NFL Cleveland Brown's I guess like fifty 286 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 4: five to three or some you know, same thing, and 287 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: he and he said he was actually sitting there on 288 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 4: the fourth court was like this was a mistake, Like 289 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: coming back to college was a mistake. Yeah, and then 290 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 4: Tom Osborn kind of came across the building and I 291 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 4: don't have a quotas at you, but something lean across 292 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 4: is like not as bad as you think you are, 293 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 4: Meaning that Tom I was were knew we had a 294 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: prety darn good team that year, right, So on that 295 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 4: day Saban had a lot of great schemes. He'd worked 296 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 4: with Bill Belichick for years, his defensive coordinator, and but 297 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 4: Tom Osborn had some pretty good schemes too, and Nebraska 298 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 4: was was awesome. So yeah, talent wins the day. But 299 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: it's a it's a great scheme. It's ah. They teach 300 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: it really well. They have really good teachers. 301 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: You know what. 302 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 4: I think one thing you see with Nick Staban is 303 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: he coaches the coaches, right. I mean he drills them 304 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 4: even you know, whether it's Lane Kiff and talking about 305 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 4: all the mind numbing meetings about coin flips and procedures 306 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 4: and stuff. Because he's everything is down to a t. 307 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: I think you'd have success every everywhere it was. It 308 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 4: also goes back to the point I made earlier about 309 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 4: the volume. I think when you've got the system they 310 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 4: have where they're guys coming in every year and there's 311 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 4: a ton of competition to just get on the field, 312 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 4: you know, he may not be able to get and 313 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: then maybe you've got to play the guy that you 314 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 4: can play who maybe is talented, but maybe not as 315 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: his acumen for football acumen isn't quit as high. Maybe 316 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 4: he wouldn't be able to carry all that defense, so we'd 317 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 4: have to simplify it and maybe do some different things. 318 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 2: You know. 319 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: I look at a guy like Gary Patterson, a TCU, 320 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: which certain elements of what he does are similar to 321 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 4: what parts of what Saban does, so particularly all that 322 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 4: you know against spread teams, Saban basically plays a four 323 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 4: two five, so it's similar, but it's the teaching is 324 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 4: much more simplified than all the various aggustments to Staveman has. 325 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: So maybe he have to just that, But okay, I don't. 326 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: I don't think he'd go to Wyoming and go too 327 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: and two and nine or anything like that. 328 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: Think you'd do Okay, Yes, I think that's the case 329 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: as well. Both of these defensive coordinators, these coaching staffs 330 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: have two very different offenses to prepare for. In that 331 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: Georgia had Oklahoma and Baker Mayfield and Lincoln Riley spreading 332 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: it out last week, and Alabama had Clemson Kelly Bryant, 333 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: and you know that that sort of more open spread. 334 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: Look that even if they're running power, you know, the 335 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: receivers are out wide, they're doing a lot of horizontal stuff. 336 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: And now they're preparing for still two different types of offenses. 337 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: Georgia is preparing for, I think, a little more open 338 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: up an offense with what Jalen Hurts can do with 339 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: the ball, and Alabama is preparing for and I don't 340 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: want to say pro style, I don't even want to 341 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: say more traditional, but Jake From's understander a little bit 342 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: more and he's not going to run for one hundred yards, 343 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: we don't think. So whose job do you envy less 344 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: in preparing for this week? 345 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: Defensively, Yeah, it's a hard question. I put it this way. 346 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: I think the offense is actually very very similar, with 347 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 4: the exception of the styles of quarterback or one hundred 348 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 4: percent different, right, And I think from there they're both 349 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 4: very multiformational. They both Alabama basically to stop using the 350 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 4: under center with Hurts, but they could do that, but 351 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 4: a lot of the stuff that Georgia doesn't understand. They'll 352 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 4: do it from spread, they'll do it from condensed. They 353 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: both use a lot of tight ends. They both have 354 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 4: unbelievable stables of running backs, unbelievable players there, and they 355 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: have skill on the outside. Alabama probably is a little 356 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 4: more though they throw it less, so that that is 357 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 4: the big difference. I do think it's you know, I don't. 358 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 4: I don't know that either offensive coordinator totally scares. 359 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: You in this game. 360 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: I think the Alabama offensive corner is a little more 361 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: of an unknown factor, you know, Dable being in the NFL, 362 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 4: and then I think he's brought in to do more 363 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: passing game stuff that you haven't really seen. 364 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: Maybe you see that when the other guy gets in 365 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: one day. 366 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 4: But with Hurts, I think it looks very similar to 367 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 4: what they've been doing the last couple of years, which 368 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: is basically trying to run a spread option system. They're 369 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 4: kind of going to play three carne monte with with 370 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: Hurts and those amazing running backs, which is a challenge. 371 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 4: But they're not particularly explosive in the passing game. They 372 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 4: take some shots, but they're not always efficient at converting them. 373 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 4: And I think what you'll see from Alabama will look 374 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 4: a lot like what it did a gets Clemson, which 375 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 4: is just trying to grind it out. Maybe maybe some 376 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: of those running backs step out of a few tackles 377 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: and run a long way, but otherwise it's, you know, 378 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 4: they're going to try to wear you down. It's basically 379 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 4: a version of what they look like in the late 380 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: two thousands, from more pro style, where they're going to 381 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 4: grind it out, maybe take some shots. 382 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: They just do it from a different look. 383 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: George is interesting, and I think Jim Cheney is probably 384 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 4: the most interesting man other than the players in the game, 385 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 4: you know, and he's bounced around a lot, you know, 386 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 4: interesting long career. Obviously, people talk about, you know, coach 387 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 4: Drew Brees. Back in the day, it was with Joe Tiller, 388 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 4: but then he went to the NFL with Scott Lenahan 389 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: and Greg Olsen who is with at Purdue, and then 390 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: he he ran Lane Kiffin's offense for a year at 391 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 4: Tennessee and then and then. 392 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: You know it with billiam. 393 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 4: Oyle and yah, yeah, and so which is interesting and 394 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 4: that that if you think about it, you know, no 395 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 4: one looks at Jim as, you know, some kind of 396 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 4: offensive guru in a sense, I think that's kind of 397 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 4: refreshing in the age where everybody's got to be an 398 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 4: offense in guru. 399 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: And I've got my system. He's very amolleable. 400 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 4: He run Joe Taylor system, he ran Lane Kiffin's system, 401 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 4: he ran a pro style system. Obviously, defensive coaches generally 402 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 4: like him, and Kirby hired him after facing him at 403 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: Tennessee and at Arkansas. So clearly Kirby thought, this is 404 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 4: a guy who's given us some problems, and we'll run 405 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 4: something more traditional, releast sensibly more traditional, and he's clearly 406 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 4: done a great job with from though obviously the challenge 407 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 4: against Alabama will be so different than what it was 408 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 4: against Oklahoma's defense. They do a really good job of 409 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 4: moving formations, they move guys around, they make it defend gaps. 410 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 2: You saw that against Oklahoma. 411 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 4: I mean, Oklahoma was a little undisciplined and just made 412 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 4: some mental errors they shouldn't have made, but they also 413 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 4: presented them a lot of looks that got him out 414 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 4: of position. 415 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: And I think. 416 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: That will be an interesting challenge for for Saban because 417 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 4: you know, when he prepare for Clemson. I think the 418 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: scouting import on Clemson they're in eleven personnel with that 419 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 4: sort of hybrid tight end HVAC ninety eight percent of 420 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 4: the time. That will not be the case against Georgia. 421 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 4: They will be in a bunch of different formations. They'll 422 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 4: they'll do four wides, you know, two tight ends, full backs, 423 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 4: they'll move different things around and which is gonna put 424 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 4: more burden on the players to get them lined up right. 425 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: And they're really going to search for we can run stretch, 426 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: we could run this. 427 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 4: They obviously showed some wildcat against Oklahoma, so that'll be interesting. 428 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: I think the knock on a Cheney is that maybe 429 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 4: something can get a little too cute or hey, it's working. 430 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 4: Why don't we just keep handing it off to those guys, 431 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 4: which was the case in the first half against Oklahoma. 432 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: Why are we going four wides here to sort of 433 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 4: trick them with a run play? 434 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: Why don't you just run at them? 435 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 4: So the other thing being the other element is that, 436 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 4: and Kirby's talked about this a lot, which is you know, 437 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 4: Alabama's known as a three four defense. Interestingly, they play 438 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: a three to four defense against traditional sets, So they 439 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 4: were three four defense and they used to play LSU. 440 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: Back in the day with tight arnifles. 441 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, when they started playing more spread teams, they were 442 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 4: a four down team, which maybe is backwards what you 443 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 4: would think, but it's because of how they nickel packets 444 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 4: would work. And then eventually the last few years they 445 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 4: they've continued to recruit to a three four, but they 446 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 4: because he got much more spread, they basically were in 447 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: the four, two five sixty seventy percent of the time. 448 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 4: I think Kirby will use some of that knowledge to 449 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: try to find ways and figure out what personal groups 450 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 4: that they want to go against where they think they're 451 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 4: you know, a little more weakness. 452 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: Almost like an NBA style, like find that the advantageous match. 453 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 4: Up exactly exactly and also, you know, who are the 454 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 4: guys who worried about an alibamus defense other than all 455 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 4: of them, right, But then try to figure out where 456 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: where can we put those guys like Mika Fitzpatrick and 457 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 4: those people to where they can hurt us the least. 458 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: So I think I think it'll be really interesting. Now. 459 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: You know, you'll find out pretty quickly can Alabama or 460 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 4: George's offensive line hold up and if they can turn 461 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 4: around and hand the ball to those running backs and 462 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 4: they can get in the second level and do some damage, 463 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 4: I think that'll be interesting. 464 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: But if it, they're going to have to throw a little. 465 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 4: Bit and it will not look like it did against 466 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 4: you know, Oklahoma, much more challenged, much more tight window throws. 467 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: So that that's going to be the big challenge because 468 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 4: I think you know, say we talked about cover seven 469 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 4: and they're on these two shell and all this stuff. 470 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 4: I think this is a game he's going to try 471 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 4: to put guys in the box and try to stuff 472 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 4: the run. I think Kirby will do something similar, but 473 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 4: it'll look a little different because Alabama comes at it 474 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 4: in a different way. They've got to be more options sound, 475 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: that kind of thing. 476 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: And in a game like this, when coaches are so 477 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: familiar with each other, we'll say, you know, mel Tucker 478 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: go into an offensive meeting and say, I know this 479 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: Alabama defense. Here's X, Y and Z, Like, will there 480 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: be that sort of crossover? I know this is probably 481 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: unique to each and every program when there's familiarity, but 482 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: when you do have that understanding of a scheme and 483 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: it's a huge game like this, will you have that crossover? 484 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think though on the short week, 485 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: I think you won't see a ton of that. I 486 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: also think, you know, as I said, the fourteen hundred 487 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 4: page playbook, it's like, oh, he could do any of 488 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 4: these four hundred things. I think the real experience is 489 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 4: bal teams practiced against the same defense they'll be facing 490 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 4: all through spring, yes, all through the fall, so they 491 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 4: should have a pretty good familiarity with it. They got 492 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 4: to learn the personnel, they got to learn where the 493 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 4: matchups are. But uh, it should it shouldn't be a 494 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 4: deep reserv difficult to find a deep reservoir of ideas 495 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 4: about things that that that could work. And then I 496 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 4: think it's really going to be what does that first 497 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 4: quarter look like in terms of both teams feeling each 498 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 4: other out, what's their plan? I mean, we saw that 499 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 4: with Georgia where they came out against Oklahoma and try 500 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 4: to do some no huddle and do different things. And 501 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 4: it'll be really interesting, particularly from George's perpective, what do 502 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 4: they think they can do to get some some some advantage. Sure, 503 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 4: I think I think Alabama you're going to get what 504 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 4: you get, especially with hurts because They're gonna try to 505 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 4: emplize what he does well, put the ball in the 506 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 4: hands of the running backs, do some option stuff, try 507 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 4: to keep those guys sound, and then maybe try to 508 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 4: you know, I do think Nick will maybe have dialed 509 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 4: up some some kind of shot plays or maybe even 510 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 4: some trick plays early on to kind of get an advantage, 511 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 4: which I think could be huge in this game. But otherwise, 512 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 4: I do think Alabama's it'll be a little more of 513 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: status quo because the quarterback does what he does. He's 514 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 4: he's very good at what he does. He doesn't make 515 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 4: many mistakes, which is I. 516 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: Don't think Jalen Hurts has thrown an interception against like 517 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: a winning record team this year. 518 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah he does. I mean he'll throw it away. 519 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he may not fit it in there, right, 520 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 4: He'll throw it away and then live to play another 521 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 4: down and then kick punt and play defense and then 522 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 4: wait around for the you know the defense you know, 523 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: Deron Pain that intercepted or something crazy, and then then 524 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 4: have a ten yard drive for a touchdown. But so 525 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 4: that'll be interesting to see. Sure, I think it's going 526 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 4: to be a grinded out game. I think there's a 527 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 4: chance maybe some big plays in special teams. But think 528 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 4: it'll look a lot like the Clemson game did. 529 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: Fair and you mentioned Jalen Hurts. We haven't really talked 530 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: about Jake From and you know, he's another wild card 531 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: with Jim Chaney. What is Jim Chaney going to do? 532 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: What is he going to do with Jake From? Who 533 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: is a true freshman sort of at this point this 534 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: will be what his fourteenth game or something. But Jake 535 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: From as a freshman, you hear a lot of times 536 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: that coordinators or coaches or media will say, well, they're 537 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: pairing down the playbook. They're you know, they're not. He 538 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: doesn't have the full playbook at his at his disposal. 539 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: What does that mean big picture? It is sort of 540 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: like they're not giving him three progressions on every pass play. 541 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: They're not giving him a lot of pre snap responsibilities 542 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: and adjusting protections and stuff like that, or he's not 543 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: making anticipatory throws. Typically, What does it mean to be 544 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: a true freshman quarterback with a sort of limited playbook? 545 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it depends on the quarterback. It depends 546 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 4: on the opponent, which I think a big thing with 547 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 4: Alabama is just not trying to put the guy in 548 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: a position where he can make the critical mistake and 549 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 4: sort of get overwhelmed, and also to keep him up 550 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 4: right a little bit, whereas maybe a more experienced guy 551 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 4: you let him de Shaun Watson, let him deal with 552 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 4: the pressure and maybe you can withstand some of the 553 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 4: physical beating. And then it depends on what your offensive 554 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 4: scheme is and how much you expect the quarterback to 555 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 4: do anyway. You run an air raid, you want to 556 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 4: spread offense, you run a pro sell offense. 557 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: I think it's all the above things you said. 558 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 4: I think all coaches, and I think particularly Cheney I 559 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 4: think is known for this is you try to get 560 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 4: quarterbacks some easy throws early to get that confidence up. 561 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: Even saw that a little bit against Oklahoma. 562 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 4: I mean the first play of the game was a 563 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: five yard hitch, and then the second drive of the game, 564 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 4: when they scored a touchdown, it was play action, dump 565 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 4: into the running bag, play action, hit the tight end 566 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 4: on across to try to get those kind of confidence 567 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 4: building throws. I mean, there was years and years and 568 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 4: years where Southern col back in the Pete Carroll days, 569 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 4: I mean the first or second play of air every 570 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 4: game was a bootleg to the tight end. Yes, So 571 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 4: you try to build those things in to get the 572 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 4: confidence up to where they can have some comfort level 573 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 4: and just play football and do. 574 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: The things that they do well. 575 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 4: You probably put a little more emphasis on making sure 576 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 4: that he's comfortable with everything in the game plan, because 577 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 4: a more experienced guy say, we're running this, this is 578 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 4: what's going to work, and you'll figure it out, whereas 579 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 4: a young guy, it's like, do you not feel good 580 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 4: about this because we don't want to do like exactly, 581 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 4: and then all the pre snap stuff, and I don't 582 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 4: know exactly how much burden they've given from in terms 583 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 4: of you know, I'm sure he has the ability to 584 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 4: say there's a lot of people over here to the right, 585 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 4: I'm going to run it left, but beyond that, probably 586 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 4: not a lot. The past protection stuff is probably you 587 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 4: don't want to give him a ton of responsibility for that, 588 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 4: especially gets an Alabama defense. They can bring guys some 589 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 4: different places in the skies well, so they probably don't 590 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 4: want to call a lot of true dropback passes anyway. 591 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 4: So everything will probably at least for the first quarter 592 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 4: or two, a lot of play action, a lot of 593 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 4: you know, maybe some RPO stuff where they do a 594 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 4: little bit of it. We're just you know, throw a 595 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 4: hitch route or running the ball off. So I mean, 596 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 4: it's not rocket science. It's just it's just putting the 597 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 4: guy in position to do things that are simple, and 598 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 4: hopefully you're doing enough other things that they have to 599 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 4: defend them. It's tough if Alabama is stuff in the 600 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 4: running backs and you're like, it's third nine, we got 601 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,239 Speaker 4: to go make a play and you can only run 602 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 4: the draw play so many times. But again, you saw 603 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 4: that against Oklahoma they ran draws on third down. They 604 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 4: did some of those things, but then when they had 605 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 4: a few critical downs, he was able to make throws. 606 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 4: And the guy's talented, so you know, if he can 607 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 4: get the confident he can make some throws. 608 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: What's easier to adjust in? You know Nick Saban was 609 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: talking about he wasn't super pumped that they only had 610 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: a week before a game like this. Typically there's ten, twelve, 611 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: thirteen days whatever. What is which side of the all? 612 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: I suppose is easier to say they've seen twelve, thirteen, 613 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: fourteen games of us. We need to add wrinkles here 614 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: there wherever? Is it easier on offense to sort of 615 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: add in new things or is it easier on defense 616 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: when you talk about you know, Nick Saban and I'm 617 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: sure on a different level, Kirby Smart they are throwing 618 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: in new packages for this specific offense they're facing. Is 619 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: it easier on offense or is it easier on defense 620 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: to say we're changing twenty three percent of what we're 621 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: going to do for this game. 622 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: I don't know that you can generalize. 623 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 4: I think it really depends on the opponent and who 624 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 4: you're going to play, and obviously what their strengths are. 625 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 4: I mean, if you were playing Oklahoma, you'd be more 626 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: worried about defending Baker Mayfield and all the wrinkles they do. 627 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 4: A different team might be different. I also think this game, 628 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 4: where there's so much familiarity about the defensive schemes, I 629 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 4: think Nick Saban can walk over to the offensive court 630 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 4: and be like, here's what they're going to do, especially 631 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 4: against our offense, right. I mean, you know, I think 632 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 4: Kirby and Hurts didn't quite overlap, but they did a 633 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: lot of the things that they were doing now like 634 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 4: versions of them, and they just evolved a little bit. 635 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: So I think that's why I. 636 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 4: Said Jim Cheney is probably the most important guy. Is 637 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 4: because I think Saban would like to have more time 638 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 4: to break down every single one of his games the 639 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 4: last couple of years, and particularly against you know, Auburn 640 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 4: with Kevin Steele as defensive coordinator. Like teams will overlap 641 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 4: to get a better flavor because they do a lot 642 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 4: of things. They got a lot of talent, and also 643 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 4: Saban's over prepare so surely just wants more time no 644 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 4: matter what. So in this game, I think it's harder 645 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 4: on the defenses. I don't know that that's the case 646 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 4: in every game, though. 647 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: I think it's very easy to sort of fill in 648 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: the blank by saying Alabama will win this game if 649 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: because Alabama is Alabama, and you know what an Alabama 650 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: win will probably look like in this game, that they'll 651 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: just be successful enough on offense and they will probably 652 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: succeed more stifling on defense than not. What does a 653 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: Georgia win in this game look like to you? 654 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: I think it looks exactly the same. It's just flip 655 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: in the script. 656 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 4: I mean, the thing Kirby has done in two years, 657 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 4: and I actually was not one of the people in 658 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 4: detriment to me, is that thought this is a slam 659 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 4: dung higher and he's going to come men and set 660 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 4: the world on fire and and certainly improve upon what 661 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 4: Mark Rick had done. 662 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: I thought Rick is a good coach. He's obviously is. 663 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 4: You know, Jim Cheney was an interesting offensive coordinating but 664 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 4: you weren't like, oh, man, I'm so excited that Jim Cheney's. 665 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: Offensive quarter and got him. 666 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, like like you know, Georgia is gonna have a 667 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 4: great offense now, it's like so, but he's built a bully. 668 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 4: I mean that is when they you know that the 669 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 4: SEC Championship game, I mean they beat up Auburn. I 670 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 4: mean after getting blown off the field and making a 671 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 4: lot of mistakes in that first game and looking a 672 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: little shaky, they they beat up Auburn, and Auburn beat 673 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 4: up a lot of teams this year. That was ultimately 674 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 4: at least the you know, in the second half against Oklahoma, 675 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 4: I mean, the physicality started taking over and you know, 676 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 4: they played a lot of man coverage and the. 677 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 2: Receivers weren't getting open. 678 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 4: And you know, even some of those guys like Mark 679 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 4: Andrews and people who are really good players just were 680 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: not dealing with the physicality, not just in the defensive 681 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 4: an offensive line, so that was a big factor, but 682 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 4: everywhere and then certainly trying to tackle those running backs 683 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 4: and dealing with tight ends and everybody else. 684 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: So I think it's very similar. 685 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: I think probably there Georgia may require that extra oomph 686 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 4: of of a key special teams you know, touchdown or 687 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 4: some you know field position, that kind of thing that 688 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 4: will'll flip the difference. I mean, I don't think it's 689 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 4: gonna be a game that people are gonna look at 690 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 4: and be. 691 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: Like, man, that was super exciting. 692 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a little bit like those 693 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 4: old school Alabama LSU games where it was like, man, 694 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 4: that was a that was a war, and then you're 695 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 4: gonna five years are gonna be like, look at all 696 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 4: the NFL talent out there, and then you're gonna think 697 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 4: about what a great punt happened in the third quarter. 698 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna be one of those kind of games. Now, 699 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: not to. 700 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: Say this is that exciting for you. 701 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: Mostly. 702 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 4: Like I mean, you know, this is gonna be the 703 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 4: kind of game that's gonna be more fun to watch after. 704 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: Yes, I'll see the little oh the left guard did 705 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: this kick here? 706 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I mean, I'm like most people. We watched 707 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 4: the game, it's like, all right, what was going on? 708 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the TV show. 709 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. 710 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 4: You saw that with like that that coaches the coaches 711 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 4: room for the ESPN that first game, it was like 712 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 4: they were plugged in, locked in. Second game, they'd also 713 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 4: been there for a long time, but it was like, well, 714 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 4: you know, there's a punts and stuff. Yeah, it looks 715 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 4: like the energy level was a little different. So it's uh, 716 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 4: but you know, look, it's going to be a really 717 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 4: interesting game. I mean, it's I still think, you know, 718 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 4: Kirby's ahead of schedule, so I think that's that's probably 719 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: the key takeaway for Georgia. And then what what Alabama 720 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 4: was able to do here in a year out of 721 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 4: sort of just on precedent, well precedented. 722 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: But in modern current modern, very unprecedent. 723 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Chris B. Brown Smart football dot 724 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: Com go buy his books. I promise you you will 725 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,239 Speaker 1: read them in like a day and a half. They 726 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: are They're an easy read in the best possible way. 727 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 4: Written like a kindergartener, written like you like a first grader. 728 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: Pictures, there's diagrams, Everything's good. Chris, thank you very much 729 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: for your time. 730 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: That's my pleasure. All right. 731 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: Again, that is Chris B. Brown from smart football dot Com. 732 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: If you're not familiar with any of Chris's fine fine work, 733 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 3: going out to smart football dot com. Check them out, 734 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 3: look them up. Final question before we part, Wait, I'm ready. 735 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 3: Did anything that he told you change your mind? Because 736 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 3: you know, we just recorded a longer pre R show 737 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 3: just you and I and we're releasing this one second, 738 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: So now you know A plus B does it still 739 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 3: equal Alabama for you? 740 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: So it still equals Alabama to me though, I was 741 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: when he talked about the idea of his wild card 742 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: being Jim Cheney and sort of Jim Cheney sort of 743 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: flies beneath the surface of like he's not somebody in 744 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: the way. They're like, oh, he's an offensive guru. He's 745 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: a young genius. You know that we see all the 746 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: time now because everybody has to be a genius. But 747 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: the fact is, Kirby Smart played against Jim Cheney a 748 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: ton when he was at Alabama, when he was at Arkansas, 749 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: when he was at Tennessee, and usually Charlie weis notwithstanding, 750 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: when you play against somebody and I think the acumen 751 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: of Kirby Smart isn't really questioned when he plays against 752 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: and sees the wrinkles and sees the ways that Jim 753 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: Cheney runs an offense and goes out and gets him 754 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: specifically to run his offense. I thought it was interesting 755 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: that Chris that spoke volumes to him about how much 756 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart respected what Jim Cheney is able to do 757 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: and that he is an X factor in this game. 758 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: What will he do? How much does he trust Jake 759 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: from how much does he attack Alabama if they have 760 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: fourth and two on the Alabama forty four in the 761 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: second half? Are they punting? Are they going that kind 762 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: of thing? The wild card aspect of what Jim Chaney 763 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: will do in this game was I thought, struck a 764 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: chord with me? 765 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: All right again, big thanks to our guest Daniel. I 766 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: will see you yeah in Atlanta in a few short hours. 767 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: Bring warm clothing, Tye for that. 768 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: Gentleman over there, Dan Rubinstein for myself, tie he'll de brand. 769 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 3: Thanks again for tuning in. We'll catch you all very soon. 770 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 3: In the meantime, stay Sader, peace 771 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 4: Kains